Is it worth $15

Yes.

>>379124171
No

>>379124171
May I hear your inquisitive sentence once again?

Meh, gets old pretty fast. It's not bad but very repetitive in it's platforming and combat.

no, its a shallow metroidvania without any rpg elements and with sketchy controls.

the people above me are redditors so dont listen to them.

If you really want to try it then pirate it and then realise 2 hours in that this is an overhyped piece of shit.

No.
>>379124871
also the art is not very good

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>>379124563
>>379124682
>>379124871
All fags.

It's my goty 2017 so far

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>>379125025
What an asshole

>>379124871
I pirated it and realized 30 hours in that I wanted to give the developers 15 burger tickets.

>>379125058
*BRAAAAAAP*

Is it a game that should be played with a controller or is a mouse/keyboard acceptable?

It's worth $150

>>379125497
If you insist on playing it you really need to use a controller.

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>>379125346
nice one

>>379125497

It was fine for me on KB, but controller is just comfy

At some point ten hours in I actually felt bad that I only paid $15 for it.

You're better off getting Dead Cells instead.

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>>379125513

this desu
one of the best metroidvania ive ever played, ignore the neogaffers above saying otherwise

>>379125346
More like *tzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzhhhhhh*

>>379125909
This

It's p gud tbqh, more than worth it at the price point. If it doesn't click by the time you get to the City of Tears, idk what to tell you tho.

>trial of fools spiked floor no platform section
send help

>>379124171
So what sets this apart form every other indie platformer?
>reminder that Cave Story came out 13 years ago

Who hyped for free content patch here? There's so much more shit that I wanted the game to have and it already had a fuckton of things in it.

>>379126374
get the Honey charm, my boy.

>>379124871
>without rpg elements is bad
Go fuck yourself

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>>379126681
I already have it

>>379124171
it's worth way more than $15

>>379126559
It's a metroidvania game, not a regular platformer. IE: Pretty cool combat, hard bosses, navigation challenges, collecting upgrades.
If you're into that shit, it does it quite well.

Yeah. It's 15-20 hours of excellence in the metroidvania genre.

>>379125909
I honestly don't feel like they're that comparable. You don't really explore in dead cells, its just running a gauntlet over and over, much more focused on the combat elements than Hollow Knight.

>>379127575
I've played for 37 hours and while I am close to the final boss I only have 25/52 achievements, I could spend at least 10 more hours or maybe more

>Watch gameplay video
>If you like what you see, buy it

>>379126605
God all I want are just more cool as fuck new zones and a boss or two or three or four or five.

It would have been amazing if there was a special hidden boss in the Abyss that if you died in a specific place and came back you'd have to fight a crazy as fuck eldricht horror version of your Shade. Deepnest, despite being the most thematically perfect area, also doesn't have an actual required boss aside from that little bitchass pussy stowed away hidden beyond some breakable wall. A boss fight in the Hive, another hidden boss fight along with a special area on the outer reaches of the Howling Cliffs, and an actual massive as fuck creature that doesn't have to be a boss fight that's just plain old huge.

A special zone in the Dream World that's not SMB, more exploration in the Abyss as well as lore dumps regarding the old pre-Hallownest civilization, more exploration in the Kingdom's Edge, an actual mushroom boss, an actual hellhole, etc. etc. etc.

Fuck I loved this game too much. I actually couldn't stop thinking of all the awesome shit that they could have further added in it.

>>379127913
Eh, took me 20 hours to beat Radiance, felt like I was fairly leisurely in how I approached the game. Was only missing the quest reward for that fucking flower quest because I dashed right into the fucking spikes in the last room, so I had to content myself with 99% completion.

I don't really feel like Steel Soul mode adds much if you don't care about Ironman runs, and I definitely don't care about achievements, so I feel the average player will probably get most of the game done in around 20 hours.

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>>379128285
It could have had so much more but at the same time, the amount it has is pretty good considering it was a labour of love that basically bankrupted the devs. On top of Kickstarter they also had to take a loan out from one of those indie support sites, I think with KS and sales together they've only made a modest profit after paying it back.

And they're doing Hornet DLC and a Switch port, which is nice of them. When the game becomes a bit more mainstream maybe they'll be motivated to make a full set of DLCs or an expansion.

>>379129064
Didn't this sell like 70k copies?

How does it compare to salt and sanctuary?

>>379129326
~125k copies on Steam alone. Coming out on the Switch soon too.

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>>379129381
Salt and Sanctuary is a 2D Dark Souls. Hollow Knight is a Metroidvania with a Dark Souls aesthetic

They don't really compare at all

>>379128530
The average player doesn't use guides like you, so no, they won't beat Radiance in 20 hours on their first playthrough.

>>379129556
Then how the fuck would this make a "modest profit", unless that loan was ridiculously high.

>>379128285

There's going to be at least three content packs coming so hopefully there's some nice things in it though I don't know how they'll implement it into the game proper. Maybe it's a completely separate area we can only through the Stagman or the Dream Nail?

>>379129640
>guides
>implying

Is it really so hard for you to remember parts of the map you couldn't visit before you got your latest ability? Nothing is really that hidden in this game if you just pay attention, m9.

The challenge of the exploration was just about dead on in that it didn't require a guide, but you still had to be mentally marking out points on the map to come back to.

>grappling needle
>huge dash
>longer jump
>naturally faster than you
Hornet is going to have massive mobility and I can only imagine how big her DLC maps are going to be to show-off that.

Reminder that the peak HK is experience is only two nail upgrades, no nail augment charms, and no spell upgrades. Makes every boss fight all the more satisfying.

>>379131381
Peak HK experience is Overcharming on useless shit and taking double damage the whole game through for no real gain

switch port when?

Would I enjoy this game if 2d side scrollers usually don't interest me?

>>379124871
>without any rpg elements
This is a good thing

La Mulana is way better. Anyone that says otherwise is trash at the game.

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I want to give a hug to and do terrible things to Hollow Knight.
Hornet's k too.

>>379131864
Would you enjoy Dark Souls lite if it was 2D?

>>379124171
no
it's worth more

>>379132024
STICK DICK IN EYE SOCKET

>>379132238
sure.

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>TFW its not on Xbox One

>>379132579
Well, that's what it reminded me of. A giant maze of monsters and difficult bosses. It has an equivalent to campfires, it has gameplay changing medallions instead of items.. you get upgrades that allow you to further progress in different locations around the maze.

The combat isn't quite as good, and it has some platforming challenges. Hence, Dark Souls lite.

>>379125909
God fuck no. I love its combat but I hate this rogue-like meme. Dead Cells should have had a hand-crafted Metroidvania world instead of the 'le random generation/die rinse and repeat xDD' garbage that makes games with good core mechanics bogged down hard.

But it's understandable I guess. The effort that has to go into proper level design for that kind of shit is so much harder than what they did right now.

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Can someone tell me why the filesize of this game is warranted?
>Mfw 2d indie 9gb platformer

>>379133378
>tips fedora

>>379124171
I'd say so, but I really liked the game.

>>379133568
Because it's a huge game? It has one of the biggest maps of any metroidvania. 9 gigs isn't even that much - do you have satellite internet or something?

>>379133568
Because the game is actually fucking massive.

>>379133568
Probably the music, it's great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQkajyGKvUU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbDkU65pJNQ

>>379133568
apparently sprites are huge, to the poin where it lags even on high end machines.

>>379133568
>>379133568
9gb isn't that much, anon. Just play it for a week and delete it.

>>379133378

My biggest beef with it is that it only has two bosses and the worst part is that the current "final" boss is a fucking shitty damage sponge.

>>379130250
Ok Mr Hardcore Gamer! I'm sure you didn't explore at all and just got super lucky finding the correct path through each map the first time!

>>379135304
Jesus, what has you so booty blasted? And what are you talking about? Of course I explored. You don't need to instantly find the right path through an area, but if you've played a metroidvania before, you can tell when hit a dead end that requires an ability you don't have yet. Just try and remember the area so you know when you get the ability needed for it and go looking elsewhere, each area in Hollow Knight isn't really that big, backtracking isn't that time consuming or anything. It really isn't that hard a concept to grasp. I don't get why you seem so personally offended by this.

>>379124171
I beat the game with around 90+ percent and have 28 hours into it so money to time wise yeah it's worth it. Depending on how good/thorough you are with Metroidvanias you might beat it quicker than I, but I like taking my time and rechecking areas once I get new power ups.

>>379124171
No idea if it is but I'm going to hold out until the Summer Sale happens, maybe it'll go down in price then. I'm assuming that sale should be happening soon after all.

>>379135957
No one's mad. I'm just congratulating you on beating Radiance in 20 hours without using a guide which is something you totally 100% did.

>>379131381
I actually had to replay the game where I only upgraded my nail and health once.

Because in my first playthrough the bosses that I found last, which were the Crystal Peak and Royal Waterway bosses, were so weak because of how stacked I became at that point. I also didn't want to get tempted to just facetank everything with Quick Slash and a lot of health.

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>>379137069
Why is that so mind blowing? I did that too, 21 hours for Radiance ending. It took like 5 more after that to 100% the game, but it's not crazy to get the Radiance ending in sub 20.

If you have previous experience with the genre, the game is pretty simple, as the bosses have very simple patterns and the game has a very forgiving healing mechanic.

>>379137069
You sound pretty mad to me m8, I don't know why else you'd be so insistent on disbelieving some random asshole on internet regarding a claim that isn't exactly a magical feat of gaming prowess. It ain't like the kingsoul is that hidden.

>>379137535
We got another one boys!

Many hardcore gamers today!

I beat Dark Souls in 1 life on my first time playing!

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If I beat the final boss will I have to replay the whole game again to get another ending like in Dark Souls?

>>379137806
Nah. There's a save point right before that.

>>379137806
Nope, but you have to get the endings in the correct order which if you play normally you should do.

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>>379137710
>saying the average game length is 20 hours is bragging

You need to calm down, anon, not everything is a personal attack against you.

>>379137806
No, you'll just go back to the bench. In fact beating the game more than once is required to get 100% of the Hunter's Journal entries.

>>379137710
Are you baiting or something? Embarrassed about taking longer than 20 hours to get the true ending? It really isn't as hard as you seem to believe. Definitely not even close to a no death DS1 run.

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>>379137860
>>379137895
>>379137917

Thanks guys.

>>379126605
How much content are usually in a free content patch? Has there been something like that for a metroidvania?

Can we expect a boss or a new area?

>>379138158
They teased a lava level.

Should I get this or rabi ribi

>>379138949
Oh shit neat. I can't even imagine where that might be or how we'll get there.

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>>379139009
Depend really as both are pretty damn good. Flip a coin and get the other one later.