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Trails/Kiseki DRAMA

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Zero translation was fine. Definitely not Google tier. The PERFECT translation team are welcome to drop their translation project.
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>>379100374
Wait what happened?
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>>379100448
Zero fan TL leaked
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*flap,flap*
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Why even bother playing this game if the second part will be never translated
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>>379100790
So I can play Zero now?
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Absolutely lolkek at EOPs and the shit they have to put up with.
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>>379101015
There's a guy translating Ao and apparently he's over 30% done
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>>379101325
I thought he just finished prologue? How is that 30%?
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>>379100374
Do we really want a thread started with bait in the OP?

I'm enjoying zero myself but we don't need to be intentionally triggering the autistic nipfags and bringing their shitposting here
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>>379101082
If you like shit translations then sure.
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>>379101082
The translation isn't shit. There are some awkward phrases from time to time but it's all perfectly understandable and usually reasonable
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Are the links up? missed the last few days of threads.
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>>379101502
>>379101564
I don't mind playing the game twice when a better translation comes out
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>>379101470
They are going to reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee no matter what in the OP. By intentionally do this, they might not come to this thread
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>that video of Dubully as a playable character in the last thread
no wonder why she was removed, she looks overpowered as fuck.
someone post more unused stuff from CSII.
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>>379101564
>some
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>>379101457
He's only posted the prologue but apparently he's done more, it got mentioned in the last thread
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So how is the translation? I hear it's a kind of wonky. Are the chances of it getting a proper "cleaned up" release out the window now?
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>>379101947
The perfect translation team are still doing it from what I read in the last thread. Wait for 2+ years tho
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>>379101947
That ultimately depends on the people who are currently trying to fix it.
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>>379102035
*flap, flap*
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>>379102035
Here is your (you). Want your honest opinion though. What do you think of the translation?
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>>379101585
https://mega.nz/#!LM4Hxb5J!0LrSUQF0yPjveDVPLSSn3Xq1i_tSwvqXHIU9Rzd3fiE
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>>379101947
Mediocre to passable, don't expecting xseed flavor on the characters, its pretty much 1:1 with the og script.
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You know what would be funny? If it got an official translation announced this year.
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>>379102035
*flap, flap*
Just for (you)
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>>379100374
Finished Zero today. It was pretty much garbage tier dialogue and interactions compared to even CS. Don't know why nip fags were jacking off to it so much.
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>>379102035
Wow how rude.....my time wasn't wasted.....stupid EOP....how dare (you).....
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>>379102312
Could it be because of the flap flap translation or OMG the game was really shit after all?
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Is there a lower form of life on earth than an autistic nipfag?
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>>379102312
h-h-he's fast
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This thread has a lot of bait
Why?
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>>379102441
A retarded EOP like you.
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>>379102312
>Finishing a kiseki game in two days
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>>379102496
The OP is already baiting so why bother.
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>>379102425
Well nipfags have a long tradition of pretending untranslated games are far better than they really are.
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>>379102496
Because Campy wills it
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>>379102172
Thanks man. Is it pre patched?
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>>379102312
Why are you surprised. It's the same shit EVERY TIME with popular untranslated games.
Also, did you not fucking sleep nigga?
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>>379102496
because every kiseki game has fishing.
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>>379101813
It was done by the programmer of the Zero patch right? That flame something
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>>379102668
I believe so I just grabbed it from the previous thread
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>>379102583
reminds me of FF Type-0 when everyone was praising it pre english release.
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>>379102846
Now that is one true shit game. Not sure why people keep saying it was the best FF before the release.
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Someone tell me what quartz I need for the invisibility art sidequest. Orbment list isn't translated
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>>379102846
Not quite. It got a lot of praise when the fan translated version was released too. The revisionism didn't really kick in until Square's version popped up. People did acknowledge the story was pretty mediocre from the time of the fan translation though.
Machina a shit.
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Shitposting aside, someone from the translation team claimed that there was a game-crashing bug in the first half of that Zero version. Can anyone confirm whether he was bullshitting or if it's actually true?

>>379102805
I don't think so, he seemed to be unrelated but then again I'm not very familiar with the people involved, sorry
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>Thread filled with people crying about some translation errors, Japanese people overselling untranslated games, and potential future releases
Can you guys just stop being fucking children and play and enjoy the goddamned game? What is the matter with you people?
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>Literally nothing but people throwing words around and insults like it means anything and false flagging
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>>379103159
Why would we be salty? We now have every mainline kiseki game but one, and the last one is just a matter of time. Even future kiseki games are guaranteed to come to the west. We're celebrating right now
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>>379103329
Obviously BS. He want peoples to play his version after all
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>>379103329
Someone pulled a save file from the final chapter and it was working. If there's a crash at some point nobody found it yet.
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You can't trust any Falcom threads because the specter of the insanely butthurt Ys Utopia guy is bound to be shitposting
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>>379103364
>>379103348
You should've seen this coming since the OP was already pure bait, this thread is like a garbage collector,
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>>379103421
That's why I'm skeptical, just wanted to be sure

>>379103452
Thanks, I hope it's not true then
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>>379103348
That's a cute turtle.
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>>379103329
This Sonic the hedgehog poster >>379102312 had no troubles.
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Thanks you butt fuckers, i am half way through .hack//gu and you go and throw this at me.
How will my autism ever recover.
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>>379103384
kys
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How long until Tokyo Xanadu in engrish?
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I'm sensing a lot of negative karma in this thread.
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>>379103784
End of this month
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>>379103784
Vita version is June 30th, ex+ for PC/PS4 before the end of the year.
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>>379103686
True but it looked like bait so I wanted another opinion just in case
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I don't know why I love these threads even with full shitposting going on. These are something special to me
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>>379100374
Go back to neogaf
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>>379103985
>looked like bait
it is
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>>379104025
Why don't you?
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>>379103998
As long as the shitposting changes from time to time it can be entertaining. The CS falseflagger and NISAshitter became tiring though
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Who is the worst offender of head patting since Estelle start doing that too?
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Oh my god this game looks so ugly
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Oh hey, it's another thread where people shit on eachother for having fun!
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>several threads full of people saying it would be awful if NISA started localizing this series
>meanwhile most people happily eat up a very rough, awkward translation that's worse than anything NISA put out

This is hilarious.
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>>379104342
You are playing a game with sprites meant to be displayed on small screen and resolution at 1080p also with some kind of filtering going on.
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>>379104342
>that awfully translated line

Oh my god
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>>379104447
Are we on the same thread? People want NISA to BTFO XSEED.
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>>379104342
Sadly that happens when you blow up a PSP to 1080p, the PC version and EVO versions look fine though.
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>>379104342
>Well, Tio
EOPS WILL DEFEND THIS
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>>379104342
It's a PSP game and you're upscaling the sprites, not even integer upscaling but just putting the game in full screen.
What did you expect?
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>>379104342
>>379104582
that eggshell white font
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I'm dying over here. Please stop
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Yeah I think I'll just wait
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>>379103348
Screw you EOP, I already played the better version without shitty translation. Go enjoy your fucking flap, flap faggot.
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>>379104447
I want NISA to take over Trails though. Better than XSEED "OMG guys please buy 100 copy of this game if you want more games"
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>>379104896
You ar rook the same.
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>>379104821
Yeah I think I'll continue nipfags
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>keeping portraits in the game
A real translation could convey emotions through text alone. I won't touch this or the upcoming translation unless they remove all the portraits and possibly also sprites. After all, I play these games for the story, not the ugly pixelated artwork.
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>>379104821
>>379104342
THIS FUCKING FILTER

pls kys asap
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Are you ready for tita bullying?
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>>379104342
Im playing the superior chinese version
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>>379105196
This is a good reason to wait for the other translation. The PSP versions are shit.
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>>379105246
Stay mad nigger.
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>playing weebshit in the first place
Fucking disgusting.
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>>379105102
>keeping any graphics in the game
A real translation could convey all visuals and sounds through text alone. I won't touch this or the upcoming translation unless they remove all nontext elements. Afterall, I play these games for the story, not ugly pixelated artwork non liveperformed music.
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>>379105173
Not him but it looks like blurry dogshit no matter what this is texture scaling and filters off.
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>>379105196
At times like this I wish I was an Asian who knew Chinese or Korean or something. Or you know Japanese
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>>379105318
It's his mudfilter that's shit.
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>>379102312
>Don't know why nip fags were jacking off to it so much.
God this happens all the time, all those highly praised nip only games always turn out to be decent at best.
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>>379105196
The contrast between the well textured floor and the pillars triggers my autism
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>>379105196
Why are you able to ching chong instead of nip nong?
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>>379105173
Oh look its the autist from last thread again.
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>>379105409
At least the text does not look like smeared vaseline in this screenshot, that alone is reason enough for me to prefer playing without filters.
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>>379105409
Looks much better.
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>>379105507
>that alone is reason enough for me to prefer playing without filters.
Yeah agreed I'll give you that.
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>>379105173
Go kill yourself already filterfag.
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I love you guys
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>crossbell is good i-i-i-i swear
>dirty eops will never get them anyway..
>Turns out it's ass
Nipfags blown the fuck up, how will they ever recover?
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Are people just missing the point on purpose? No one wants a subpar translation, they are just playing it now because it's "good enough" to see how it is and curiosity. Doesn't mean they don't want the proper fan translation after it gets revised.

If a company actually pulled something like this there'd be backlash for sure, but this is a rough patch from like 2015 or 2016, and people know not to expect perfection. Is it necessary to act so artistically about it? It's not like people are singing it's praises since it's only for triggering the ones who are being jumpy about it.
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>>379105686
A-all the good bits are in Ao!
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>>379104342
>>379104542
Never had an issue with PSP game's looking butchered on PC. Both 3D and 2D games. Did he mess up some setting or something?
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Where can I find 3rd translated for PSP? I wanna play it on my phone at work but currently only the first two games are translated
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>>379105394
>wasting electricity on a chinese kids game
A real translation team would come up with a pen and paper version for the environmentally conscious fans. Get with the times, people.
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>>379105870
Nowhere.
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>/v/ hates Cold Steel now
What the FUCK happened?
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>>379105870
Nowhere because it doesn't exist.
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>>379105686
>a few people who used a shitty translation who speeded the game don't like it
>LOL IT SUCKS FUCK YOU NIPFAGS
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>>379105779
Go away, stop speaking sense to people. These threads are only for shitflinging contests now. God help those who have moderate opinions.
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>>379105963
Its the inevitable fate of anything that gets an english PC release. See: Ys, Bayonetta, Souls etc. As soon as it hits Steam, these people will begin to engage in their deviancy.
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>>379105963
Autistic nipfags happened
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>>379105963
It was always shit
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>>379105982
>literally seething
It's over, brah.
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>>379105982
>Speeded Crossbell
>In less than two freaking days

Anon, don't buy shit like that like it's true.
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>>379106250
You are not supposed to be logical in this thread.
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>>379106204
>>literally seething
>>>/asp/
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>>379106169
A retarded EOP like you. We'll enjoy our good stuff while you enjoy Bimbo of the Sky.
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>>379105963
Cold Steel is literally the best Trails subseries. Just ignore the retards who get a boner for hating on my husbando Rean and you're set.
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>>379105196
where did you get it? i want to see if this one still has the dual gpu bug for laptops
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>>379106436
>EOP
but i don't even speak english you absolute fucking moron. checkmate, nipfag
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>>379105963
>now
you missed a lot of thread where it was called shit
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Remember that EOPs are as dumb as the bimbo that is Estelle.
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>>379101325
When did he start?
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>>379105802
Oh yeah. I forgot they used to say that all the time.
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>nipfags are also josettefags
imagine being born with a taste so shit
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>>379106574
>claims to not be a EOP
>can write and read it
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Hola, donde esta la Pistas de Cero parche?
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>>379106680
Just like all the good part is in cold steel 2 but it never delivers
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If you really like the game then you'd replay it when the better version came out.

I don't see why this is suddenly a problem now when most of the people here replayed FC when it got rereleased for PC even though they had played it before on PSP.
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>>379106645
Not sure but he started posting about it about a week ago. The 30% done info came from the other translation team member in the last thread so take that with a grain of salt, could have been just a shitposter. But the guy himself did post the full prologue translation so we'll have to wait and see if he's gonna share anything else
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>>379106882
Does anybody know why they pussied out in CSII? We at least saw people gunned down to a pool of blood, mortar shots and a jaeger eaten by a spider in CS.
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>>379107272
>replaying 40 hours long JRPG
I could platinum 3 games with that time
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Why do I keep coming to these threads after 3rd?
What the fuck happened?
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>>379105812
The LoH games on PSP is look awful on an emulator because you're upscaling downscaled sprites.
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>>379107447
>Just 40 hours
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>>379107520
Everyone who cared about the 3rd already beat it and moved on. There's not much new to talk about so it devolves into this, pretty standard fare around here honestly.
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CS2 > CS1 > Gagharv (official localization) > Ao > Zero (JP version) > SC > shit > Zero (fan translation) > FC > cancer > the 3rd
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>>379107326
Any links?
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>>379108086
I can't anything but laugh at this point.
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>>379105453
Why not both?

>>379106549
Use baidu
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>>379107425
>pussied out
>two named characters die on-screen, one blows up and the other was pierced in the heart and bleeding out.
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>>379101564
It's pretty shit. People are only saying it's not to be contrarian.
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>>379107425
West Erebonia is where shit is so bad they don't even put it in the map anymore.
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>>379108086
cancer>shit
get your opinions together
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>>379108276
I want to give Noel anal.
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>>379107425
>golden butterfly
Proof that magic exists
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>>379108086
bait
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>>379108237
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_VhWQN2KuGBaUNIZ0w2N2ZMLVk/view
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_VhWQN2KuGBd21LZXlGdzhSbk0/view
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>Trails treads are just shitposting
Goodbye comfy Trails treads.
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>>379103348
I can't enjoy a game with a shit translation though. Now that the translators confirmed they aren't going to stop working on the patch because of plebs it's not really a big deal though.
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>>379107520
some cuck on neogaf tried to translate the game but now a shitty translated version comes out and he complains that people are playing it instead of his version
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>>379108376
good point. here's another one

cancer > josette

>>379108521
wrong
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>>379108563
I for one blame Vitagen faggots.
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>>379108563
It went to shit after XSEED announced CS for PC. Consolefags are mad. Serves them right for shitting on the Vita.
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>>379108662
Guan hates NeoGAF though
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>>379108747
He still goes on it unlike Floofy.
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>>379108747
don't mention his name, we don't want to summon him so that he'd come crying here again
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>>379108704
Why?
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>>379108736
Threads were good when the 3rd launched besides a few butthurt vita posters. This is why these threads need to die for awhile until there is shit to actually talk about like CS3, its basically become a general at this point and this is the kind of garbage generals become after so long.
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>>379108871
Floofy used to go on there, but she stopped. Guan has thicker skin.

Also I find it funny that people are blaming NeoGAF for people shitting on the rough "translation" when most of the people on neofag have the same opinion on it as /v/ (it's fine, stop complaining, it's better than waiting five years, etc.)
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>>379108948
Threads started to go to shit after CS localization, dipped back up in quality with The 3rd, then plummeted again.
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>>379108964
NeoGAF has the best English language discussion on the series.
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>>379102312
Hey look contrarians, never seen those before.
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>>379108871
What's her problem though? Did someone insult her?
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>>379109012
But CS isn't a Vita exclusive. I think it was the game itself rather than the platforms it was on.
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>>379109206
Vitagen legitimately treats PS3/Vita games as Vita exclusives.
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>>379105092
>being this proud of eating shit
can't make this shit up lmao
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>>379109282
I hope all falcom future games are PS4 only. Screw those shitheads and I own a Vita too
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>>379109185
Step 2: Go on 4chan
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>>379109185
NeoFAGs were shitting on them for taking so long when "there's already a perfectly good translation out anyway". So is /v/ but /v/ is pretending to disagree with NeoFAG while literally parroting them.
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>>379105173
>>379104342
>>379105409
You need a proper scanline filter, For example, the arcade scanline filter or the dot matrix-like filter goes a low way to make the lose res sprites look a lot more tolerable.
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>>379109185
Certain neogaf members took things she said and twisted them or flat out lied about what she said, this happened to many times that she got fed up with neogaf.I'm surprised Guan is still there desu.
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>>379102312
>machine translation has bad dialogue
woah
>>379102583
Yeah remember back when they were pretending CS was good before its localization was announced? Oh wait
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>>379109206
I think you under estimate /vitagen/ they are even hostile to PS3/PS4 owners, you should have seen them after CS3 was announced as a PS4 exclusive.
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>>379109424
>NeoFAGs were shitting on them for taking so long when "there's already a perfectly good translation out anyway".
Literally not even true. I saw no such thing in the thread i read

Link us to this and prove it
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>>379109185
KEK, enjoy never getting the proper translation
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>autistic estellefag for two years straight keeps reeing at an invisible boogeyman calling anyone with dissenting opinions a nipfag
>screeches constantly and makes cringe tier falseflags
You and you know whos are the reasons why the trails threads are nothing but cancer, congratulations.
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>>379109495
Nigger just look in the thread where Guan was posting. The reason he even got buttmad in the first place was because of neofags praising the shitty leaked translation.
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>/v/ suddenly loves Zeromonkey
What happened?
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>>379109539
>Not /yet/ anyway

What did she mean by this?
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>>379109539
What the fuck is she even talking about? Is she this mad that someone is playing the game without her translation?

I don't even get what all the angst is about.
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>>379109589
So you have no proof then

All you have to do is show us these mythical posts
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>>379109424

Makes you wonder why people announce they're working on a fan translation in the first place. Why not just silently work on it, so that you don't have faggots bothering you constantly?
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>>379109440
Not really a fan of scanline filters, the ones built into PPSSPP in particular are pretty awful.
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>>379109667
Floofy's in this thread, say hi to her!
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>>379109680
She's a drama queen. Don't try to make sense of it.
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>Enjoying this shit translation won't stop us from getting a proper translation!
>>379109539
>this image
really spurred the activity of the cognitive matter in my cranium
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>>379109667
She browses the hidden /yet/ board.
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>>379109769
There are more options on this page

http://forums.ppsspp.org/showthread.php?tid=6594

Like the Nick001's Arcade Scanlines, Guest.r Updated shaders (have a crt shader with AA)
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>>379109667
She'll "walk away" for a month or two, then the rest of the team will follow and ghost the fanbase pretending that the project never existed and ultimately we won't ever get to see it again. Anyone who asks about it will be promptly blocked and ignored.
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>>379109962
Nigga if someone is going to quit over something like this then fuck 'em. That's some top-tier attention whoring imo
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>>379109962
Well technically they're right. If they'd just played the translation, it wouldn't have affected anything. However, for some reason the faggots felt the need to go insult the people working on the translation and call their editing work unnecessary instead of just playing the patch
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>>379110015
I can see this happening honestly. They seem too busy with other stuff in life.
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>>379109962
>Enjoying
That's the keyword, he's mad at people hating it.
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>>379110035
They aren't quitting, they just said they're putting the project on the backburner since people are actively insulting them for working on it and have made it clear that quality is unimportant anyway.
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>>379109631
An autistic shitposter with a butthurt vengeance against "nipfags" happened. It's really sad he thinks his false flagging isn't blatantly obvious.
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>>379110187
>since people are actively insulting them for working on it
Who are these people? Is this some retard crying over meanies on /v/?
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>>379109732
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=763697
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>>379110238
But the nipfags are laughing at us for "enjoying" the translation patch now, he's just feeding them. On top of that they're also making us look bad by trying to be revisionists again
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Speaking of which, where did the translation patch come from anyway? I know it was posted on 4chan as the patch alone 2 days ago, but why did it pop up now?
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>>379110284
Dude you need to read that thread. That's the thread i read. Nobody in there is shitting on them and 90% of them are saying they want to wait

This drama is over NOTHING
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>>379110331
Thats actually what I'm wondering I'd suspect it was someone from the TL team honestly.
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>>379109282
Guess that shouldn't surprise me.

>>379109475
>you should have seen them after CS3 was announced as a PS4 exclusive.
Wish I had. I'm sure the asspain was immeasurable.
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>>379110329
THEY'RE MAKING FUN OF US AGAIN, MAKE IT STOP /V/
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>>379110467
Honestly I'm starting to think one of them did it themselves as an excuse to manufacture fake drama and quit
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Trails does attract the most autism out of /v/.
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All this drama and attention whoring is stupid as fuck. If you have so little pride in your work that some random autists on the internet can make you quit then good riddance. Grow a thicker skin and better luck next time.
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>>379110538
Learn the master language then we'll stop.
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>>379110284
FUCK OFF GAF STOP BROWSING THIS PLACE
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>>379102312
WOOOOOOOW I DOWNLOADED THE LEAKED UNEDITED ROUGH DRAFT OF THE TRANSLATION PATCH AND THE DIALOGUE WAS BAD
BUGGED TRANSLATION MECHANICS HAW HAW HAW
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>>379110801
But I already know German
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>>379110626
Wouldn't really surprise me and it would be obvious why the chose 4chan of all places because they can anonymously "leak" it with zero chances of them being discovered. The fact last thread had someone who obviously was involved with the translation even further reinforces that.
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>>379110827
How many dicks is is Leanna sucking piggy?
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>>379110748
It's literally one autistic shitposter with sever asperger's. They even made several threads asking people to dox Xseed so they could call them and request them to make a physical copy of Ys Origin for them as a birthday gift and said "my parents are rich and would pay them a lot for it". I shit you not.
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>>379109539
Fuck that retarded tranny.
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>>379110953
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>>379110963
Wait what?
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>>379110467
>>379110626
>>379110895
It was probably Zeromonkey since he pretty much hates the current TL team for working with Xseed.
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>>379110802
Aloha, NeoGAF!
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Such a shame, it would have been funnier if they sold the patch to Xseed .
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>>379111072
They're some Estellefag that has been shitposting in these threads for three years or so.
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/320430771/#320430771
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/320432785/#320432785
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/320468295/#320468295
Reminder that the "nipfag" posting is 90% this person
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>>379111301
wew lad
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>>379111274
i would buy it for 3 potato
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>>379111301
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>>379110963
>>379111301
Well in the end his wish was granted
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>>379111301
Holy shit, and I thought my recent shitposting was sad.
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>>379111610
Yeah honestly the only shitposting I do is gachi
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So for anyone actually playing Zero is there going to be a way to farm U Material later on? I read apparently you can get it from cooking later but I really don't want to spend it on weapon upgrades early if its available in limited amounts. Does it drop off anything later?
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>>379111301
How do you even reach this level of autism?
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>>379111301

Does anyone have Xseed's phone number? I need it to tell them they don't need to work on crossbell anymore since the zero patch is the most perfect thing ever.
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I'd rather wait a better translation no matter how long it takes.
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>>379111987
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>>379111987
Can I have it too so I can tell them to localize more shitty games like Akiba's Beat and drop Trails for good?
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Crossbell is so comfy, lively and diverse! I'd love to live there!
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>>379112246
It is fairly comfy, but it's also an extremely corrupt shithole at the same time.
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>>379101947
1st) Official XSEED localization
2nd) Fan translation with good editing
3rd) Fan translation with little editing (< - HERE)
4th) Machine translation/Duwang/Nayuta bad
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>>379112154

Zwei!! 2's pretty good, faggot.
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>>379111898
Wait until the autism levels lower for a few days then try again.
I'd help but i'm just now starting FC on the vita
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>>379112380
So you're a god damned filthy pirate then. Fuck off
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>>379112305
At least it's not Erebonia, kek
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>>379112362
Nowhere did I mention Zwei!! 2 though?
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>>379111898
I asked the discord people and one of then said you can farm U material later. So you're safe.
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>>379112492
What, you don't want to be a living pawn for Osborne?
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>>379112380
>Autism levels lowering
Not until Cheryl dies.
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>>379112649
Cool figured, the late game stuff looks like it needs 10x per upgrade so I had a good feeling you could.
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>>379111898
There are enemies that drop them throughout most of the game, and you can buy them at the casino.
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Post lewd tio
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>>379113006
No, post lewd rixia
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>>379112486
Relax your breasts i own a version of it
Didn't get very far until news of an EVO patch came out, if i like it enough i'll probably end up buying the PC version of SC and continue there.
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>>379109539

>Getting bent out of shape because she finally learned that many human beings are shit.

I guess this is what happens when you learn that lesson 15 years too late.
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Post lewd Noel.
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>>379113073
No, post lewd Renne
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>>379112924
Or maybe I'm thinking of the exchange shop, and maybe I'm thinking of Ao. Either way, you get plenty of them.
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>>379112924
>you can buy them at the casino
Oh baby, I was going to wait for the edited translation but I'm tempted to start now to hone my autism edge. I love casinos in video games.
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>>379113286
Screw you, we need tittie monsters, not water boards.
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are there any romance events in zero. im really curious
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>>379112924
Thanks anon
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>>379113891
Not with Lloyd, because Lloyd is a brick. There is some minor romance not involving him.
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>>379113891
Best ones not until Ao sadly.
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>>379113891
As far as i'm aware, if you do Elie's bonding events, at some point she'll give him motivation and talk together for a bit while she hugs him, and he ALMOST snatches a kiss from her before he gets interrupted by speaker which startles both of them, and she retreats awkwardly.

Otherwise some minor romance stuff here and there with other characters too, and i'm not sure, but i think one of the guardian force girls is really tsundere for Randy.
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>>379114159
Into the gutter.
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Trails was never good.
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>>379113891
You get a kiss with Elie at the end of Ao if you do her bonding events, but the flipside is that everyone except Noel has an actual interesting bonding event with lore and backstory that are more worth seeing than the generic romance scene with Elie.
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>>379114496
Trails was always good and still is.
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Can i roughly translate this Spooge Sorceress in Zero?
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>>379114680
Tio was born for lewd
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>>379114913
born in an alleyway with a dumpster as her home.
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>>379114680
You can roughly put quartz in her slots and make her work for you. And then you headpat her.
>>379114554
Noel's event is also a awkward as fuck confession though, and Lloyd doesn't even make it clear if he reciprocates, and just awkwardly goes "hold on to this and let's wait until this is over to talk about it".

Wazy's on the other hand was fairly interesting too.
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>>379115029
>Noel's event is also a awkward as fuck confession though, and Lloyd doesn't even make it clear if he reciprocates, and just awkwardly goes "hold on to this and let's wait until this is over to talk about it".
Well yeah, I'd act the same way if worst girl confessed to me.

Wazy, Randy, and Rixia all give insight into their backstory and in Wazy and Rixia's case a bit of lore. Rixia also has a romantic slant to it but it's more heartwarming and less straightforward than Elie's scene.
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>>379115029
I jammed all her slots full of quartz and she liked it
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>>379114913
She was, just ask all the D:G patrons who had the pleasure of using her.
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>>379115267
I think only Renne had the shit luck of ending up in a cult building that also doubled as a brothel.
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What's up with the random overpowered monster chest on the mountain path? It's lvl 35 I'm lvl 16
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OH SHIT THROW THAT ISO INTO THE GARBAGE XSEED JUST ANNOUNCED A ZERO/AZURE DOUBLE RELEASE FIR THIS YEAR.
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>>379115703
Those are there so you can do them later in the game or on NG+. Zero has them all over.
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>>379116060
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>>379116060
this is literally the only thing that will stop me from playing
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>>379113891

Llyod is your clueless anime harem hero, all chicks pine for his dick and he ignores all of it.
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>>379111301
Holy shit
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>tfw this shit translation just killed any chance of an official release of crossbell
nice
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>>379116901
Nice headcanon
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>>379116901
[sources: none]
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>>379117020
XSEED said so. Don't bother them about it.
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>>379117108
>XSEED said so
Lolno
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>>379117225
It's true my dad's second cousin works for xseed.
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>>379117334
Is that you, Billy?
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>>379111041
Don't think she's a tranny though. Just a normal ugly.
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Tio is for ______
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>>379117757
Impregnating
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>>379117757
Playing Zero right now and this girl is making me a pedo, i need help.
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>>379117757
Rean's harem
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>This dude is supposed to come deliver new combat staffs for Tio to test
>Instead he drops it off at a nearby weapons store and i have to buy the fucking thing

Why is this guy not fired yet?
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>>379115435
I doubt it, there isn't any reason not to do that with everyone. They just don't explicitly detail it with Tio because we already knew how they operated their lodges from The 3rd and it was a PSP game.
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>>379117757

GO FIGHT
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>>379117757
Offering to the members of D.G
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>>379118075
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>>379118024
Here you go.
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Tio is 14. That's not even pedo.
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>>379118027
you jelly?
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>>379118086
Actually, they make it clear in Zero that Renne's was an exception. Whether that's because it was a PSP game is up for debate, but it's what the game says.
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>>379118746
Source? I don't remember anything of the sort.
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>>379118746
>>379118875
I just beat Zero last night. At the final battle Estelle and Joshua ask him about Paradise, and he says it was a separare venture from the other lodges, used to gather funds and blackmail politicians.
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I seriously hope you guys don't get over the barrier.
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Dat ass
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Which one of them is on top?
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>post archives of the sperglord Estellefag's delusions
>shitposting about REEE NIPFAGS instantly stops and thread improves in quality
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So, is the patch playable? Might give it a go on my Old PSP.
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>>379121614
Everyone found unity through by laughing together at the sperg.
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>>379121614
You're a fucking retard

I'm not your boogeyman and i always call out the autistic nipfags' bullshit
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>>379121732
You can understand what's going on but that's about it. It's like Eating a Pizza without toppings.
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>>379121732
It is, though some stuff is awkward, but most of it is understandable. Download it and check if you think you can put up with it.
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>>379121809
Your revisionism you mean autistic dipshit
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>>379121915
Um no. Fuck off
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>>379121893

> food analogy
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>>379121678
Autism?
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>>379121893
>>379121895

Sounds like it's worth checking out. Time to hunt for a link.
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>>379122512
>>379102172
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>>379122559
Time for some badly translated vidya.
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>>379119476
>used to gather funds and blackmail politicians
I can understand the blackmail part, but gathering funds? What the hell does an organization run by the Croises, of all people, need more funds for? They have tons of money at their disposal.
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>>379123315
Let's avoid spoilers for others shall we? I think they couldn't just transfer money willy nilly like that without making some people suspect something's wrong, and maybe each division had some limit on budget and that was a way to gather a bit more, and the politician part was just to shut them up or have them join in case it's needed.
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>>379111134
they're working with XSeed?
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>>379123556
But they've been doing all this cult shit for years. They have all the infrastructure and personnel to keep everything under wraps. It seems totally pointless.
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>>379123315
Because the Crois family probably couldn't interfere like that without letting the cult members know that something was up. They were an organization set up by the Crois family hundreds of years ago with core beliefs that would lead them to work towards the Crois family's goals, but I don't think the Crois family was directly involved in the cult's activities, at least as far as any of the cult members knew.
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>>379121895
>cousin
Vore fetishes shouldn't be allowed.
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Is the guild receptionist of Crossbell supposed to be flamboyant?
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Important question
Elie's Mcdowells or Mariabell's bells?
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>>379125031
Noel's crossbells.
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>>379125031
Neither
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I like how in Zero it shows how much delay abilities have, does Cold Steel do this as well?
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>>379125372
Yes. It even shows how much delay you're inflicting on enemies with AT delay.
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>>379125031
Rixia's Maos.
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>>379121732
Yes but its not very good and the sequel isnt translated so you might as well wait for either a translation for that, or a better one for the first game.
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>>379125451
Nice that'll be super useful to have.
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>>379124982
Obviously, yes.
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Should i try to buy these combat orbment casings as early as possible in Crossbell? I assume they offer extra bonding points for the characters?
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>>379125031
Tio's Platos
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>>379126510
But she has nothing.
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>>379126313
They're just for decoration.
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>>379126589
Even better
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>>379126589
That's what makes them so great.
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Are Falcom's music composers fucking wizards or something? Or do they manage to pour out so many good track for so long?

https://youtu.be/-OciAAIlivA
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*flap, flap*
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Since the emotional little bitch know as Gu4n is reading this thread let´s say what we feel about him.
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>>379126510
*Tio's Flatos/Breastplatos
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>>379127243
Delet this and go eat your cousin at a good price.
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>>379127339
citation needed
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>>379127243
>you will never flap Rixia's bosoms
Why even live?
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>>379127339
>Trying to start shit when the thread is finally nice

Why?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlafD6SrFik
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SxJC-9PZmE

Top or bottom
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>>379127454
I want to overdrive into her ass if you know what I mean.
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>>379127012
Playing through Sky just amazed me because they simply outdid themselves every time. I didn't think the 3rd could top SC's OST but somehow they did it.
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>>379127339
Who
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>>379127012
Yes they are, just play the Ys games.
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>>379127012
Somehow the soundtracks just keep getting better even as the other parts of their games get worse. I don't know how they do it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wp31O0-WwRA
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>>379127512
Top. Bottom tries to makes it lose a lot of the impact the normal version has, and it doesn't sound as intense. It's not a bad remix though.
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>>379109539
Why would I wait an indeterminate amount of time when I can play it with an understandable translation right now? For all we know it'll be another year before they finish.

I bet if XSEED or another company announced an official localization they'd also stop working on the fan translation out of respect, which means we'd be waiting even longer for a polished translation.
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Does anyone have that picture with all the major Ao spoilers on it?
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Oh boy I wonder who this could be
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I'm really enjoying zero right now. So far about 15 hours in. Still can't believe we're this close to being able to play the entire series.

Just one more game.
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>>379121372
>tfw you'll never hug Tita in a hot spring
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>>379128661
>her hair actually comes from the father
o-o-oh
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>>379128828
Renne's parents house is in the rich part of crossbell and you can find her parents son shown in Door 15 in the 3rd.
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>>379128779
Lloyd and Joshua looks wierd in that.
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Wait. Is this the first game that is translated. Why did it start out of nowhere? Or is it like just of one of those tv tropes "youre probably wondering how we got here" type.
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>>379129285
That intro is actually related to a pretty heavy plot point. Play it and you'll wonder about it later.
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>>379129285
Deep is the first game in the CROSSBELL ARC, but the 4th game in the overall series

As for why it begins in the middle of something, read this

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_medias_res
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>>379129285
No the first Trilogy Sky is completely translated and has official releases. The Zero/Ao duology was skipped and the 2 finished games of Cold Steel have official releases.
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>>379129409
>>379129443
>>379129596
Thanks. I meant the first game of the crossbell series. Already played fc, sc and tocs 1 and 2. Just wondering because tocs also has done it.
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>>379129285
Play Ao to find out why.
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>>379129741
Why haven't you played 3rd? It's out already
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>>379129741
You should probably play the 3rd first before jumping to Crossbell.
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>>379129741
Just a heads up, you should really probably play/finish 3rd before Zero.
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>>379128960
>her parents son
That´s a weird way to say brother.
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>>379129873
>>379129891
Well fuck me. Guess I'll buy the steam one. Or is there any link for the pc version?
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When is the steam summer sale? I didn't get 3rd when it launched
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>>379130020
You can also buy it on GoG if you want it DRM free.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATyxzDSbwes

I can´t believe they made this track even more awesome.
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>>379128960
>Mfw entering Hayworth's house the first time before any of this even happens
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>>379129285
>"youre probably wondering how we got here" type.
That and not really at the same time.
Due to the Bracer squad not being there
Is that even ever explained?
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>>379130109
Should be at the end of the month. Don't expect a big discount though, the best you'll probably get is the same as it was after launch (-10%).
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>>379130483
Ao explains it. It's an actual plot point.
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>>379130146
Thanks. First time in a trails thread. Feels comfy desu
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>>379130670
>Feels comfy desu

Did you literally turn a blind eye to all the autism at the start of the thread?
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>>379130670
>Feels comfy desu
It can be but every thread is also plagued with shitposting and bait. You'll change your tune fast if you stick around
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>>379130654
I have to replay it, it's been so long,
This game was my training for N1
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>>379129986
Yeah I realized how retarded it sounded after I typed it.
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>>379130938
Those "wife's son" memes are fucking with your brain anon.
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>>379131012
I've been here way too long
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>>379130758
>>379130795
I'm ignoring the shitposters above. A translation is still a translation. I'll get what is available just to play the game. I'm used to it because of /a/ fansub translation wars
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pHkzB0iYQI

I can't believe they made this track even more awesome.
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>>379131429
>Spoiler
I don't even want to imagine that
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Would you eat your cousin?
if you catch my drift
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>>379131668
What do you mean anon?
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>>379131585
What are you imitating me cunt?
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Calvard when?
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>losing the hundred days war is part of Osborne's plan
>losing crossbell is also part of Osborne's plan

no one can stop him
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>>379132586
2020.
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>>379132586
After Gagharv remake.
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>"translator" who can't actually speak the language he's translating runs script through google and then edits the output
>shitters defend it because "it reads fine to me"
I don't know if this happened or not in this particular instance, but projects like this have completely erased my faith in fan translations. I'll probably just wait for an official translation to come out 6 years from now.
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>>379132764
this sounds accurate as to something Falcom would actually do
I'd believe it
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>>379132856
It's not the final version, people are working on revising it and making it look better.

Also nobody is saying this stuff is great, people are just curious and probably tired of waiting so they give it a shot.
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>>379125323
Indeed
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So, if Joshua and Estelle didn't go with the SSS the first time, does that mean that in the original timeline Renne gensokyo'd?
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>>379133198
the point I was making is that no amount of editing will make up for a translation that was shit to begin with. why would a translator that could actually speak both languages he was working with even need so much revision? "translations" that seem good but are really just heavily edited machine tl are poison because they trick people into thinking they're legit and lower the overall confidence people have in fan translations in general.
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>>379133649
NOBODY GIVES A FUCK

This isn't a translation thread

This is a thread for people to talk about Trails, and this translation patch is just a way for those who want it to be able to play it.

Take your autism elsewhere
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>>379133649
It's not machine TL. It's part JP->CN->EN and part JP->EN by an Italian guy, and it seems to be fairly accurate.
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>>379133649
It's hardly that bad anon, at least play it and check how it is before opening your mouth. It's accurate, but rough and some stuff needs better phrasing.
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>i wont use a texthooker + google translate but if you edit the exact same google translated text I would have read anyways into the game 7 years after release, I'll read it then

Why are eops so retarded?
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>>379134119
no matter how much you parrot that it's google TL or machine translation, doesn't mean it actually is faggot.
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>>379133649
No it's a solid first draft of something, it just need proper english sentence structure and less eating cousin's flaps.
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>>379134119
I'm not learning Japanese no matter how hard you cry about it. You retards said we would never even get SC and look at us now. No need to be forced to learn another language for a game with the technology today.
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Do you fight the super powerful knight bitch in this one or is that Aoi.
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>>379134087
>It's accurate
yeah but how do you know? unless you compare every line with the original stuff could be completely different and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. it used to be you would just assume that fan translators were more or less legit, but these days there's so many fuwanovel tier hackjobs that you have to be suspicious.
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>>379135874
>Aoi
It's Ao, and yeah it's in that one not Zero. Generally Ouroboros only directly gets involved in the second games of a sub-series.
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>>379136069
I'm not him, but I tried comparing some scenes with the original and there were only a couple minor mistranslations. They were early scenes, so it's possible it gets less accurate later on, but they seem to at least have a decent grasp of the languages they were translating from.
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>>379136069
The text makes complete sense, and NPCs still foreshadow stuff that happens in the game, like talking about a black haired boy and a twin tailed girl who moved in nearby, and soon enough Estelle and Joshua show up in the bracer guild.
You're being overly paranoid anon. The translation is just rough and has some weird sounding shit, but the dude who translated it had some autism about trying to make it literal, so won't see made up stuff.
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>Chapter 5 after the hospital incident
>Sergei orders everyone to retreat after the SSS building has been surrounded
>whips out a fucking shotgun
>literally 3 seconds later the SSS building gets bombarded with bullets from the front
>get chased around Crossbell blasting some fools
>mfw


This is fucking amazing
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>>379136436
I'm not saying that I know for sure it happened this time, but like I said it happens enough that I'm not willing to trust anything that isn't known to be completely legit. I'm still pissed that after so many years there's still no real fansubs for the strike witches ovas because all of the retards decided that edited machine tl was "good enough."
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How did the iso even get leaked, was it from a discord channel?
The translation is also at the very least 7 months old since the last modification was in december.
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>Estelle and Joshua's jap voices
Jesus christ people were actually bitching about not having dual audio in sky? Their voices are annoying as fuck.
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>>379136730
Someone posted it here yesterday not sure if thats the first place it was posted though.
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>>379136786
Joshua sounding feminine actually makes sense if you think about it, Estelle on the other hand i did feel sounded a little too young for how old she was supposed be.
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>>379136638
nonononnoNO! crossbell is SHIT! stop enjoying IT
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>>379136786
An anon posted it randomly
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>>379136730
This was for you >>379137103
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Anyone gonna make a Zin edit of oh-shit-I'm-sorry guy?

>>379121584
Anelace fingers both of them as they make out.

>>379127012
Simply joining the sound team requires you to super talented with composing, DTM tech, and being able to help with other parts of projects if necessary. Zero has the Ys Seven sound team line-up (Osaki and Momiyama, who left around 2011 and 2013, and Unisuga and Sonoda who both have stayed for a long time) and it's just such an improvement from FC.

>>379132907
Only going to happen between Kiseki installments if Kondo gets terminal illness and they need to make his White Witch remake before he leaves this world. Then Kusano becomes President and we get Brandish remakes.
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>>379136638

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qYYetCVBko
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>>379136935
>Joshua sounding feminine actually makes sense if you think about it
How so? I'm not exactly defending JYB in the english dub because he sounded way too old but I just can't believe people were having such an autistic shit fit over grating as fuck japanese battle grunts.
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>>379136730
To clarify, the ISO wasn't leaked, the PATCH was.

Someone then patched an ISO and uploaded it
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>>379136730
The neofag guy said from may 2015 or something. Pretty damn old.
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>>379136303

>They were early scenes, so it's possible it gets less accurate later on

As long as it's not a repeat of the J2e FF IV "translation". That thing was so bad it was one of the many things that pushed me into learning Japanese.
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>>379130873
The prologue was the original timeline, the SSS died there and KeA reset the timeline so that Estelle and Joshua would be there to lead Renne there
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>>379137618
That rom was my first ever run of FFIV
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>>379137751

I'm so sorry.
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>>379137678
Then does Renne an hero in the original timeline?
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>>379137618
I never heard of this translation but I looked it up why exactly does this even exist?
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>>379137183
>Simply joining the sound team requires you to super talented with composing, DTM tech, and being able to help with other parts of projects if necessary.
That's what they want you to think. The reality is that Sonoda and Unisuga's music is fueled by the souls of unsuspecting hopeful sound team members lured in by Falcom's musical history. That's why Ishibashi is dead and the rest of their new composers have dropped out so quickly.
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>>379137852
No, Renne, Estelle, and Joshua arent present in the original timeline.
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>>379137938

They thought the SNES translation was shit and didn't like that it was the easy type version (I don't know what the SNES translation is like, I haven't seen it since the early 90s), so they decided they could do better, and bring the hardtype version to English speakers. Some of them clearly had good intentions but a mixture of severe lack of understanding of Japanese and people who just wanted to "get creative" ruined it.
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>>379138017
Really? She was already in Crossbell in The 3rd, and Joshua + Estelle were heading there.
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>>379137938
If you wanted to play FFIV with the big boy difficulty on back in the day that was your only choice, they wanted to accurate but insert pop culture stuff randomly because...reasons?
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>>379138124
>They thought the SNES translation was shit and didn't like that it was the easy type version
The SNES translation is mediocre but its not bad by early 90's standards, also the NA version is not easy type. Easy type is even easier than the NA version, the NA version sits in the middle difficulty wise and Zeromus has a completely different sprite in easy type that was reused for Zeromus EG in the GBA/PSP.
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>>379138297
That bugged me too, but I think it was probably an oversight. They could also just say that what you see in 3rd is the post-Kea-meddling timeline.
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>Still wondering if Testa Rossa is alright
Summoning weapons out of thin air like that is always cool
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>Monster chests are back in Zero
Well at least they have their own color
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>>379138297
The three of them were in Crossbell, but they were not present when the SSS fought Joachim.
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>>379139548
Don't complain, bimbo. You've come a long way
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ahhhh
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Anyone got te traslated scene where Estelle call Joshua her lover/brother.
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>Estelle, Kloe, Josette fell in love with Joshua
>no one bat an eye

>only one girl of choice fell in love with Rean after he spent whole year hitting on her
>reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>379139658
Then my question still stands - did she commit sudoku in the original timeline? The implication was if Estelle and Joshua didn't catch her after she'd "settled" things in Crossbell...
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>tfw bummed out sometimes when you finish a great game and its all over
>One day you will experience that but a hundred times worse when you finish the final kiseki game
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So whats the OP strategy in crossbell anyway? Sora was stack speed/spam earth wall, Sen is spam delay but does crossbell have an equivalent?
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>>379140032
shit bait, I've already seen it before, need something a little more fresh
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>>379140071
Get an evasion tank to lure the boss to 1 side of the screen while the rest of your characters plaster him with those shiny new ATS buffs
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>>379140071
It's even simpler in zero, just stun the enemy before starting the battle so you get a free group attack that wipes out everything in one hit
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>>379140154
fact =/= bait
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>>379140043
>implying any of us will live long enough to see the final kiseki game
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>>379140154
Bait as it is, I always wondered that too. I found the romance badly developed if anything but nothing completely out of the ordinary or "out of nowhere".
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>>379140178
Agility is actually worth stacking now? I felt like it might be with dodge counters being a thing now.

>>379140193
Was talking more about boss fights I figured this out already.
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>>379140274
Kiseki will be completed within 10 years
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>>379140032
The difference you're missing is that Joshua said "I love you Estelle. I don't love you Kloe and Josette"

Meanwhile Rean just goes "Eto.... aaaaaaaaah..." and acts dense as fuck.
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>>379140273
>only one girl fell in love with Rean
>I'm going to pretend that all of the bonding events didn't have the girls constantly blushing and getting wet as fuck over Rean
>I'm going to pretend that the game is not clearly designed around all of the playable female girls wanting his fat schlong
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>>379140459
>>379140440
>It's okay when crossbell does it
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>>379140414
I bet Falcom will go bankrupt before the story finishes
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>>379140498
What the fuck are you even talking about now. God go throw yourself off the nearest bridge.
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>>379140547
No. Now fuck off retard.
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>>379140459
>I'm going to pretend that the game is not clearly designed around all of the playable female girls wanting his fat schlong

but they don't
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>>379140071
There's no single OP strategy in Zero. Some people like to grind for evasion, but that's not fun. Elie's healing/CP restoration craft is stupidly good. CP gain up accessories are good as usual. In Ao, there's an infinite turn loop you can use later in the game that obviously shatters the balance.
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>>379140440
>>379140459
>the delusion is real

top kek.

take off your nostalgia goggle m8
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>>379140561
Crossbell has everything you retards complain about from cold steel

For some reason that's OK by you though
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>>379140498
Lloyd is a clueless dunce that just cares about his daughter-fu. Rean so far doesn't have anything he's fighting for.
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>>379140035
It's possible Estelle and Joshua still caught her. We have no way to tell.
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>>379140665
Lloyd is so stupid it's a wonder he can breathe.
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>>379140440
he doesn't have to since none of them confess their love.
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>>379140628
I'm not saying Sky is perfect or anything, but if you can't see that literally E V E R Y main character wanting Rean isn't objectively worse, I don't know what to say.
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>>379140715
Better than Cecile(is this the official romanization?), at any rate.

As an anon so eloquently put yesterday, all the oxygen must go her breasts instead of her head.
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>>379140641
I didn't bring up Crossbell ONCE. I was talking about Joshua. Quit trying to change the subject you retard.

>>379140717
You're right, Rean is the typical self-insert Light Novel main character. God forbid he have any personality or drive. He needs to be as bland and forgettable as possible so I can pretend I'm him.
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>Having to fight 3 guys who can kill me in 3 hits while having no orbments or s-crafts AND having to protect an escort.
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>CROSSBELL IS THE GREATEST GUYS WAY BETTER THAN COLD STEEL TOO BAD YOU WILL NEVER EVER GET TO PLAY IT
>Turns out to be just like cold steel in many ways
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>>379141008
People saying that are stupid. Why people call Cold Steel wiafubait is because there's not much else to Rean's character besides self-doubt. Lloyd, while yeah there is some choose-your-waifu there, the main focus of his character is wanting to find his brother's killer and to protect KeA.
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>>379141008
>Turns out to be just like cold steel in many ways
Or is it Cold Steel turns out be like crossbell in many ways?
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>>379141008
Zero at least gets the characterization done right instead of spreading it too thin.
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>>379141289
Cold Steel 1 & 2 should have been 1 game. Not enough characterization in the first game to make any of the characters interesting and none of them had significant character arcs. The second game didn't advance the characters all that much and their conclusions felt weak for all the time spent. If it was one game, it would at least feel like less of a waste instead of an endless slog waiting for the characters to become at least halfway decent.
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>>379141716
>Not enough characterization in the first game

The first game's characterization was good, especially with the character's clashing with each other and growing closer over the game. it was the second one where that was thrown out the window in favour of nakama bullshit.
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>>379102846
but type 0 is good
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>>379104342
jinkies maybe it'd help to turn off your fucking filters
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Should there be a new thread?
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>>379142280
see
>>379105409

You fuckers really should stop spergging out so much about MUH FILTERS the PSP version looks bad no matter what you do.
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>>379105409
use nearest neighbor texture and screen filtering instead of vaseline aids
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Is it even fucking possible to do Schera's door on nightmare? I have to take down 4 people apparently and they just straight up 2 shot me once they get STR buffed.

I have fucking nothing to use.
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>>379141716
>>379141908
I actually thought Sen 1's characterization was more believable than Zero's, and a good part of that is because Class VII's members interact with other characters that aren't Rean while almost everything in Zero goes through Lloyd. With the exception of Rean, Sen's characters are also a lot less chuuni than Crossbell's.
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>>379139765
Isn't that the move Cassius fucks your mouth with in third.
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>>379142429
I've played around with all the different scaling and texture filtering settings it makes no noticeable difference.
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>>379142512
Sen 1 gets a bunch of hate due to the school setting, but it really does a good job of both NPC characterization over several months and showing relationships between your party members and other NPCs. It's just a shame Class VII never interacts among themselves.
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>>379142818
>It's just a shame Class VII never interacts among themselves.
There was a lot of potential to be had
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>>379142280
Here I changed it just for you is this better anon?
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>>379143108
The true meaning of Ao no Kiseki.
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>>379142537
Yes.
>>379143162
>
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>>379142512
Funny, I thought the opposite. There's a lot of interaction between the SSS while Class VII entirely revolves around Rean aside from the shitfest that is Laura and Fie's bullshit or Machias REEEing at Jusis
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>>379139548
I actually really missed them in 3rd.
There actually was one, wasn't there? In Gehenna.
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>>379140717
Except that scene where every girl including Sara can confess to Rean at the end of CS2.

Meanwhile Joshua has Josette fall for him for shallow reasons (she just likes him for being mysterious and attractive) and Kloe falls for him because of the face he presents everyone, while his actual reciprocated romance with Estelle contrasts those two because she knows and accepts both sides of him and loves him.
Of course I wouldn't expect a haremfaggot to grasp a proper romance.
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>>379143834
I wouldn't call Estelle and Joshua quite a proper romance, since the writers kind of forced it later in SC without some of the development it should have had. It's still a hell of a lot better than anything in Crossbell or Sen for sure.
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