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Does Square Enix really expects me to read and memorize all this shit?

Stormblood will be the biggest blunder in MMO history after 1.0.
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ded thred
ded gaem
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>>379080786
>can't read 7 lines
How retarded are you, OP?
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to the one anon before the thread got deleted

yes, noct with current potencies will be better since it's already insanely broken and it also has 5% more healing potency than diurnal
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>>379080786
So, any trialfags out there? How is the game? I'd like to know how much you can do from 1-35 until I jump off [spoilers]Guild Wars 2[/spoiler].
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>>379080786
>tfw too intelligent to play ffxiv
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>>379080786
if you shoot dragon 4 times and shoot your your blue dragon laser it becomes a stronger red dragon laser

Speaking of I have a feeling you can't renew LotD with WT or FaC
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That doesn't look too bad op. Are you a shitter or something?

Oh wait, you're playing DRG so statistically you are.
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Just a reminder that Yoshida is simply a ravenous jew because SE doesn't need XIV money to fund its other gmes.
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>>379081004
You'll get to Titan which can make or ruin your experience.

On one hand, Brayflox is when dungeons gets interesting (though it's been nerfed) and Titan will give you a taste of how fun trials are.

On another hand, the quests before you do them are absolutely awful.
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I'm trying to be optimistic about Stormblood but I really feel like it's going to go poorly.
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>>379081203
>Dragon Quest X never
I don't care about the cash shop but damn at least make the game good, which hasn't been happening.
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>>379081203
So you're saying that since SE doesn't "need money to fund their games" they kick all of it back to Yoshi?
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>>379081363
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA FUCKING DQ X
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>>379081173
>we heard you like timers so we'll give you a timer on top of another timer so you can drg while you drg
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>>379081325
Ummm stfu?!?!1
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>>379081108
>if you shoot dragon 4 times and shoot your your blue dragon laser it becomes a stronger red dragon laser
why doesn't it just say this?
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>>379081474
>"I don't like timers," says the man playing an MMO
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>>379081574
It does, I just wrote the same thing in baby talk
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>>379081474
You are playing the wrong genre, buddy.
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>>379081049
don't force me to call a mod and downvote your comment here
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>>379081656
t. Larry
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>>379081474
The hell are you talking about, you only have one timer at a time
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>>379081574
because developers are fucking retards
just check any boss guide
>300 lines of worthless shit
then remove all the worthless bloat of words and retarded shit that doesn't care and you sumarize a tactic on 6 lines max
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>>379081574

Because that makes the writers/devs sound like absolute idiots and it also sounds super fucking insulting to the playerbase of their game.
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>>379081757
Are you saying Larry panders to /v/ by talking like an idiot?
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>>379081791
>because developers are fucking retards
>just check any boss guide
Do you read what you write?
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never expected this
What to do now?
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>>379081858
He might as well be.
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>>379081791
I was watching Log horizon the other day and that one raid they did with the big purple faggot honestly made me laugh.

It had fewer and less dangerous mechanics than most of the XIV raids and the anime was trying to act like these simple fucking tactics like boss positioning was super hard or something. God help them if anything like Alexander Savage were to come up.
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>>379081951
the ring is useless by the way. :/
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>>379081951
Cry because the MGP bonus event doesn't apply to the jumbo cactpot
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>>379080786
DRG is now even more rigid

>Need to be in BotD
>Need to become Dive Ready by jumping in BotD (but not Dragonfire Dive)
>Need to use Mirage Dive to gain a stack of Dragon Eyes
>Need to do all this F O U R times just to gain access to a slightly more powerful version of Geirskogul that's not even 400 potency

>Meanwhile the Summoner gets to summon fucking Bahamut itself and deliver to 700+ potency Akh Morns in the span of 20 seconds
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this game has 0 decent content creators, it's fucking astounding.
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>>379081951
Post it on reddit along with an irrelevant 5 page life story
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>>379082062
The one guy who also does dark souls stuff is okay
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is this a good game to play to meet girls?
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>>379082056
How is any of this complex or rigid
>use your OGCDs
That's it, I summarized your entire post
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https://youtu.be/x5xqNEwHOKM?t=1409

The new dungeon boss battle music is hype as fuck
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>>379082056
Geirskogul no longer uses up BotD though I don't think it will be that much to deal with.

>>379081951
I only want this for part of the High Roller title achievement, already have Fenrir and Cloud's Card really not much for me to do at the Gold Saucer.
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>>379082151
I'm a girl anon you can talk to me about what ever you want.
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>>379082062

You are astounded that no one can make a fucking boring as hell FF MMO exciting or interesting to you?

You are asking for way too much if you think someone decent plays this or knows anything about it.
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Someone please post more lizard men
Or an artist

My thirst from last thread hasn't ended
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oh cool, MCH actually got some animations
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>>379081951
>Three consolation prizes
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>>379082151
Only if you are into girls (men). Actually I do know a few couples of actual girls and guys.

I'm into men and I've yet to find a BF...
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>>379082151
There are lots of girls playing
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>>379082237
Please be in London
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>>379082062
Name one good content creator for any game and not have another person call them shit
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>>379082224
same, I have all mount in gold saucer already. It feel kinda wasted that I won the lottery now, but Im happy thou.
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I really want to resub but know there's nothing to do for the next two weeks. Talk me out of it, please.
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>>379082303
if by girls you mean elemental butter golems and trans then yes I agree friendo.
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>>379082151
Yup, there are several girls(male)playing this game.

But seriously, I meet my GF playing this game

She plays a a male Roegadyn

I'm a female cat.
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>>379082361
Nah, do it fucker. Have a blast in the Gold Saucer. :^)
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>>379082338
Mariowithatophat
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>>379082151
I met a girl And she immediately assumed I was a gilr and I don't know how that makes me feel honestly.
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>>379082361

Don't resub ever again because it will never be worth it. You've gotten your moneys worth by now surely.

Use the money to get something else.
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>>379081014
>But still dumb enough to frogpost
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Is anybody else excited to see the new zones for themselves? Kugane alone is one of the best cities they've made so far, even better than Ishgard.
Also the uniforms of the Garleans there are fashionable af
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>>379082302
Are you cute?
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>>379082418
I know a lot of girls who play male cats and lizards because they want to avoid desperate guys
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>>379082285
You'll get there froggy, just jump 100 more cliffhanger
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>>379081203
22% from two MMOs vs. hundreds of smart phone games that need continueous shutting down and making new ones of to fetch more whales.
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>>379082237
Is it true all actual women play Giraffes?
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>>379082530
I'm by no means fuccboi type of cute, sadly because that's all people seem to care about.
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>>379081950
lets see.
>boss guide by developer : every 30 seconds this faggot will roar to the sky and stun the raid for 2 seconds stopping them from moving or performing any action and adding a debuff doing 500 damage peer tick every second for the next 10 seconds
so basically
>every 30 seconds you get stuned
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Do the new areas feel like part of a connected world or do they just feel like small instanced areas like old world?
I really hated that about the world.
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>>379082784
>So basically
>Leave out the damage component
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>>379082673
Most girls tend to play Midlander, Lala or Elezen
There's a lot who play Miqo'te or Au Ra but they're also flooded with grown men
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>>379082673
My mom plays an Au Ra.
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>>379082915
They look much more interconnected to me. Heavensward already took a step to that but Stormblood did a better job due to being able to cull ps3 players.
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>>379082673
They play female lalas too
Usually the kind that wear large comfy coats/robes and not the ones who wear meme outfits
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>>379082974
>that Au Ra you cybered with the other day could very well be Anon's Mom
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>>379083041
They're all going to be "zones" still.
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>>379082915
The new areas are still instanced but they appear much larger than HW zones.
I don't know why they can't do the loading tunnels they did with 1.0 but made the tunnels more interesting.
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>>379083143
>they appear much larger than HW zones.
This is not a good thing.
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>>379082784
>removing info about animation wind ups
>outgoing damage and debuffs
>etc
Dumb.
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>>379083096
Anon's mom is pretty frisky.
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>>379082673
from experience with my discord, ranking from left to right
cat>aura(actually low, but should be increase)>midlander=lala>elezen>femroe
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>>379083202
Well it won't be if the zones seemed barren and uninteresting I guess.
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>>379083143
>I don't know why they can't do the loading tunnels
"Won't" not "can't". Nobody likes loading tunnels
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>Do chocobo races
>There is actually another person there in the race
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>>379082921
>i'm a healer and if each boss guide doesn't tell me to heal normally , i don't do it at all
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>>379083113
Yes, and? It's a simple loading screen.
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>>379083387
>Other person has a rank 9 chocobo with the skills you can only get after beating all the challenges
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>>379082445
>tfw someone thought I was a girl for the longest time until I got in ts with them
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>>379083229
I want to invite Anon's Mom to a "linkshell" with a bunch of other /v/irgins.
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>>379083453
Funny argument coming from somebody who needs guides to stupify mechanic explanations for him.
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>>379081203
A Realm reborn gave us Arcanist, Summoner, Scholar, Rogue, and Ninja. Three dungeons per patch, while still getting new content on the side just like Heavensward. No cash shop throughout almost the entirety of A Realm Reborn.

Cash Shop shows up just before Heavensward at the end of A Realm Reborn. Idiot drones on the forums defend it saying the money will go back into the game. People who say that it will slowly consume new content as more is added to the cash shop and less to the game are criticized by idiot drones saying it's just a slippery slope fallacy. Cash shop releases with $25 Sleipnir model which was already in the game and used by Odin, at the same time they put in an Odin trial fight that could have dropped it. Cash shop later adds more content that was already in the game, Nero and Livia's magitech mounts, and sell it an absurd price.
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>>379081203
>>379083751
Heavensward debuts with a new race, three new jobs but no classes, and only 2 dungeons per patch. We get the same amount of side content as we got in A Realm Reborn, making it questionable where the extra development resources went. Over time, the cash shop began adding more and more items instead of putting them into the game in the side quests and events we used to get that rewarded similar things. The prices on said cash shop items have also steadily increased.

Stormblood is imminent and we're going to be getting paid level jumps now too, which gives them an excuse to never have to put in effort to improve the older parts of the game, whilst also making more money off of it. Despite charging more, and putting less into the game, while putting more into the cash shop, idiot drones defend it still. They use the excuse that it paid for the new servers instead, but the new NA server fucked over more of players than it benefited. Faggot west coast and Australian players gloat whilst jerking off each other's schadenfreude boners. Stormblood already clearly has less content than Heavensward, with no new race, only two new jobs, and a massive gutting of abilities whilst dumbing everything down. PvP is suffering even more by being gutted down to only 10 abilities.

I sure can't wait for cancerous pay to win jump potions.
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>>379080786
>when you get 4 stacks of Eyes, your next Gershkougl turns BOTD into LOTD
>When in LOTD, Gershkougl becomes stronger and has a shorter cooldown
>you can restack eyes while in LOTD to get LOTD back up faster

I don't even play DRG OP, you're a retard
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>>379081108
Nope you can't, but yoh can restack the eyes to move right back into LOTD after it expires
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>>379083848
>pay to win jump potions
Here we go again
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>>379083751
>>379083848
I agree but classes don't matter so in reality we only got 3 jobs in ARR.
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>>379083848
>Despite charging more, and putting less into the game, while putting more into the cash shop, idiot drones defend it still.
This shit drives me slightly nuts.
A game with a subscription fee shouldn't have anything locked behind a fucking cash shop.
Put it in the game behind content like a dungeon, quest line, or world boss.
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>>379083751
>listing Classes and Jobs seperately
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>Any Way the Wind Blows
It begins.
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>kugane bath house only has a bunch of male roes and male hyurs on them
hmmmm
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>>379083387
>Some cunt who has been breeding his chocobo to perfection his whole life
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>>379083848
>pay to win jump potions.
They aren't pay to win at all, you idiot. I'm not going to use them because I already have all my jobs leveled but it just cuts out grinding for people who want to use them. This by no means makes them better than anyone at the game.
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>>379084081
Paid level boosts that give you an instant high level character with all previous progression content flagged as cleared are pay to win.

You're paying for level ups, which require you to win within quests, battles, and dungeons that can in theory be failed and are failed by some players. You're also paying to have mandatory content flagged as if you've beaten it and this is, again, content that can be failed and is failed.

I'm ready for the S-E FFXIV drones and Blizzard WoW drones to come at me with their fallacies that try to twist what it means to win.
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>>379084370
Wrong thread
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>>379084317
>>379084385
STOP

WE DON'T NEED THIS CONVERSATION AGAIN
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>>379081951
people said I'm dumb when I told them I get three of the same ticket every week

I'll show them when I win that 3.3 million MGP
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>>379083751
>base game has more content than the expansions

Never would've expected that tbqh
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>>379082915
At least the reworked maps will give you the illusion of a connected world.
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>>379080786
>They finally start doing job traits
>this means SCH doesn't get Miasma 3

boo
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>>379084524
>>379084443
>>379084317
Idiot drones.
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Sproutshitter here, how come every time the story starts to get hype or interesting at all they have to kill it?
>oh shit nigger we're about to go fight fucking Ifrit holy shit
>but first you'd better go dress up like a bum and walk up and down this ramp to get out of this hole in the ground city over and over again on random quests
>oh shit nigger the Sylph leader got kidnapped and could end up tempered by a Primal meaning any chance of having peace between the Sylphs and the Giraffes will go down the drain
>but first go to every corner of the continent looking for a ballsack-nosed goblin thing and make some homemade wine or else the barkeep won't share his info with you
>oh god damn nigger you fucked up Titan but in the mean time the enemy raided your base and killed all your friends!
>hey I'll give you asylum and help you but first go to the store and fetch my amnesiac friend here twenty items to fix this kid's """stove""" or some shit
How the fuck was this approved? How is this looked at with any nostalgia? When does it get better? It does get better right? After Titan I was so sure the story was about to kick into gear finally but now I just don't know.
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>>379083848
>Over time, the cash shop began adding more and more items instead of putting them into the game in the side quests and events we used to get that rewarded similar things. The prices on said cash shop items have also steadily increased.
We really can only blame those falling for it. We warned them about the cash-shop when it was announced.
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Do not reply to the tranny gorilla.
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>>379084385
>I'm ready for the S-E FFXIV drones and Blizzard WoW drones to come at me with their fallacies that try to twist what it means to win
Can't make up a better fallacy than you already did
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>>379080786
>that tooltip
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>>379084443
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>>379084612
I hope they did those new maps to later add more zones.
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>379084616
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/708799/

Idiot cash shop and mechandise minions supporter.
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>>379084705
The only fallacy is thinking jump potions aren't pay to win, and thinking the cash shop isn't slowly destroying the game whilst getting more added to it while less is added into the game.
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>>379084630
They fixed that for Heavensward but you still have a lot of shit to get through.
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>>379084630
>he thinks that's bad

Just wait till you meet the moogles in HW.
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>no more women and french in my static
feels good man
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>>379084385
>being this desperate
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/image/EbuntwVg5T-uMyfnadOuiQ/
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>>379084785
>>>/vg/
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>>379084795
>The only fallacy is thinking jump potions aren't pay to win
They objectively aren't. Just because you don't know what P2W is doesn't mean nobody else does
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>>379084630
It gets a little better closer to the end of ARR, and I think a lot of HW's story is more relevant to the overarching plot. Except for the moogles.
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>>379084385
Alright, so it's pay to win for the non-competitive, single player portion of the game

Alright?
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>>379084871
They objectively are. Your definition of pay to win is the corporate history revisionist definition, not the true definition.
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reminder that healers and especially tanks will be in very high demand on 4.0 release and you should play them
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>>379080786
Sick, so a new move gives you new stacks that changes that frontal aoe into a stronger version?
I should get back into this
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>>379084370
>>379084370
>>379080786

Five second lazy OC
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Anyone else wish every job started at level 1? I like progressing through a job.
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>>379084983
They objectively aren't. Your definition of P2W is retarded /v/ definition that isn't based on facts made up just so you could find an excuse for being shit at videogames, not actual definition
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>>379084795
P2W means you're paying for an advantage that others can't get in-game. Like, if people were to buy a weapon that did significantly more damage than any weapon available outside of the cash shop, that would be P2W. This doesn't exist in FFXIV and jump potions are not that. You can either spend hours leveling or spend $25 to level instantly. It's either you spend time or money.

>>379084983
You're just autistic because you're butthurt over literally nothing. If they actually add something that gives a significant advantage on the cash shop, then you can complain. Otherwise, you're wasting your time, chemo.
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>>379085036
>reminder that AST and especially tanks will be in very high demand

Fixed that for you.
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>>379084983
If the hump potions gave a full set of level 70 tomestones to spend and 20 million gil or some shit you may have a point. As it stands right now the jump potions are basically paying extra money jn order to access content you already paid for. Supremely Jewish, but not P2W.
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>>379080984
But its still less than Diurnal full duration.
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Should I start with a healer instead of a dps in stormblood? Questing might be a pain in the ass.
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The abilities in this game could not possibly be any more dull.
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>>379085132
They objectively are. /v/ didn't invent the true definition dumbass.
>that isn't based on facts
It is 100% based on facts.
>just so you could find an excuse for being shit at videogames
Nice straw-man.

>>379085153
>P2W means you're paying for an advantage that others can't get in-game.
You can't get instant jump potions in-game, not that I'd want it there either but you can't get it in-game. Being instantly at a high level that puts you at the end of the game is an advantage.

>Like, if people were to buy a weapon that did significantly more damage than any weapon available outside of the cash shop, that would be P2W.
Both are pay-to-win. However, if we're going to abide by your definition, then lets start selling all the raid gear too. Sounds like a great plan, right?

>You're just autistic because you're butthurt over literally nothing.
Stop being retarded.

>>379085196
Stop being retarded.
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Whats so bad with Jump potions? Don't you need to be level 60 on one char to buy one?
I would assume the same for the story ones and youd buy them only when you are making a new char
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I might have missed something, but is it only newer mounts that game the speed boost or do all the mounts get it?
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>>379083387
>race against two
>gain lead at the start and they never catch up
And I'm still using my first Chocobo.
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>>379085413
>Don't you need to be level 60 on one char to buy one?
No. Even then they're still pure cancer.
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>>379085373
>/v/ didn't invent the true definition dumbass
I can see that, since you don't know it
>It is 100% based on facts
It isn't and it can't considering you don't know the definition of P2W
>Nice straw-man
Cry some more
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>>379085480
all mounts, past and future
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>>379085373
>You can't get instant jump potions in-game, not that I'd want it there either but you can't get it in-game. Being instantly at a high level that puts you at the end of the game is an advantage.
No shit sherlock but you can LEVEL IN GAME. WHOOOAAAA

>Both are pay-to-win. However, if we're going to abide by your definition, then lets start selling all the raid gear too. Sounds like a great plan, right?
Nice strawman.
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>>379085542
Thanks. Don't ever wanna give up my Bomb Palanquin.
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>>379083751
>>379083848
I'd like to be mad, but it's like getting mad at paid DLC or microtransactions or loot boxes or post launch "patches" that fix "finished AAA" games. The best solution is to stop playing video games for a while.
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>>379085480
speed is based on meeting the areas requirements so its not dependent on mounts
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>>379080786
Náströnd is where Níðhöggr cews on the corbses of murderers oathbreagers and adulderisers
:--DDD
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>>379083848
I agree with you that the shop is getting out of hand, but having more funds doesn't imply you should just keep cranking out new races and jobs.
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>>379085506
>I can see that, since you don't know it
You're retarded.
>It isn't and it can't considering you don't know the definition of P2W
You're super retarded.
>Cry some more
You're turbo retarded.

You also either don't know what pay to win really is, or you choose to be an dumbass who ignores the true meaning of it.
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>>379085723
Not an argument, not that you can make one while having no idea what the fuck you're talking about
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Why do you people still respond to it, thread after thread?
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>>379085569
>No shit sherlock but you can LEVEL IN GAME. >WHOOOAAAA
Whoooaaa, you can get raid gear in game too, lets sell that!

>Nice strawman.
That's not a straw-man you idiot. That's literally going by exactly what you said.

>>379085639
I'm more mad at people actually defending it. It's like on disc DLC. I remember when people actually got pissed off about that but now there's literal corporate drones who go around defending it. It's unbelievable.
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>>379085569
Just because you can get something in game doesn't mean its not P2W when being able to buy it immediately.
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>>379085723
Fuck off from this thread if we're too stupid for you then you spastic
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>>379084612

thats actually way nicer.

I know its only a menu change, but even just looking at itmakes it feel much nicer
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What if they add Viera or whatever as a NPC race and you still can have them as retainers or companion?
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>>379085808
The only one who has no idea what they're talking about is you and anyone else who claims this isn't pay to win and who claims the cash shop isn't becoming more cancerous as time progresses.

>>379085927
No thanks, I'm just doing any curious newcomers or returning players a service by warning them ahead of time about this game.
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>>379085670
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Im annoyed because were going into the east Asian expansion and nearly every single eastern item has been on the cash shop. How about you save some weebclothes for the actual content Yoshi?
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>>379084630
>not liking the wine arc
Pleb taste.
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>>379085979
>I'm just doing any curious newcomers or returning players a service
By being retarded in public? I mean entertainment is a service I suppose
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>>379085413
It's level 60 on one job, and currently its only one per account, no story progress, as in if you buy it on a fresh character, you would still need to do all of ARR and HW to get to stormblood. Whether thats bad is up to you. Personally, I honestly don't give a shit what people do with their money so its whatever to me, I won't buy it and I wont yell at people who do.
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>>379085103
Nope. At least, not after you've leveled all the other jobs through those same dungeons however many times.
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>>379085979
>Not letting people make their own judgment call about whether they're offended or not by boost potions and cash shop dresses/mounts
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>>379086081
The only retards here are the ones defending pay to win, cash shops in a subscription game where you have to pay for the game itself and the expansions. These retards even defend this billion dollar corporation for free! Can you believe that?

>>379086125
>not letting people express their own dissatisfaction at a game they liked being destroyed in a manner that also effects the entire genre as a whole
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Take your cash shop p2w discussion back go vg, faggots.
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>>379085987
kojiiiiiii
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Leveling potions would only really bother me if they were in a game like old XI or WoW where leveling was actually part of the challenge of the game itself.

In most modern MMOs the levels are just a chore and add nothing to the experience. I don't like how that's what it's become but that's just kind of the truth of the matter.

It's very upsetting that they couldn't have just come up with a way to make leveling more enjoyable/added something you could grind for at max level to make leveling your next job easier(think heirlooms without the inflated stats).
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>>379086245
Nobody here is defending P2W though, are you blind?
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>>379084187
Im fine with old stuff.
But 18 dollarydoos for a two piece outfit?.
Fuck off SE
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>>379086245
Well, you've expressed it. Time to move on.
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>>379086336
haha benis
:-DDD
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>leveling potions

as if players weren't bad enough already jesus christ
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>people complaining about level/story potions
>when this means less Toto-Rak and Piss Vale runs in leveling roulette
We already got huge amount of shitters in endgame thanks to FATE bots and PotD, it's not like things will get worse than they already are with these potions.
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>>379086367
Stop lying to yourself and everyone else here.

>>379086408
I'll be sure to spread awareness to everyone within every thread I happen to notice.
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>>379086336
I

WANT

MY

STONE

SKIN

BACK

FAGGOTS
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>>379086575
>I'll be sure to shitpost in every thread
Yeah we know.
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>>379086245
I'm not that anon but you are literally trying to shove your opinion down other peoples throats. anybody can form their own opinion with actual information, and they don't need some stupid definition that you made about pay to win.
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>>379085857
No it's not. They're not going to add raid gear to cash shop. Literally everything has been cosmetic. The only things that won't be cosmetic is skipping leveling and quests. You can already skip through dialogue and skip cutscenes. You can already power through POTD to level quickly. The jump potions literally don't give any actual advantage. I don't buy things off the mogshop because I think it's dumb. I'm more for actually grinding things out than paying for the jump potions but I also think you're retarded.

>>379085867
It's not going to be like Warframe for instance. The only reason some people won't be able to get something like raid gear is because they're bad at the game but I highly doubt SE is going to add any gear that has stats on the cash shop. If they did, I'd quit in an instant. So far, the argument against jump potions is literally pointless. I could say something about how Yoshi was hesitant about wanting to even put them in but that could've just been a cover and he was going to do it regardless.

Jump potions will not change literally anything because 90% of the playerbase is already trash. You can't buy skill.
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>>379086575
>making a point to spread your retardation to every thread
This is why /v/ is such a shithole
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>>379086576
fuck your stone skin. that skill was garbage
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>>379086336
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do you pump vit or str on PLD google seems to give outdated results
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>>379086576
>WHM cuck

It's your fault for playing such a shitty job.
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>>379086374
On the one hand, what a bunch of fucking jews. On the other, people bought them, so shit. Well jewed.
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>>379086765
VIT. It was changed in 3.2 that tanks now get the same scaling from vit as str but vit gives more hp which is why you'd pick that over str.
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>>379086765
VIT but that shits getting removed come SB
>>379086878
>log in to everyone with new hairstyle and this
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>>379086645
Kind of like how all these cancerous micro-transactions are being shoved down my throat and ruining the things I love?

>they don't need some stupid definition that you made about pay to win.
I didn't make it up buddy, it's the true literal definition of pay to win. Not the corporate marketing definition.

>>379086689
>They're not going to add raid gear to cash shop.
It would be no different than jump potions.

>Literally everything has been cosmetic.
Paid level boosts are not cosmetic.

>The only things that won't be cosmetic is skipping leveling and quests.
I'm glad you only draw the line at what you feel is important with a blatant disregard for the entire game.

>The jump potions literally don't give any actual advantage.
Yes they do. It's a clear advantage over someone who progresses normally.

>I also think you're retarded.
But it's you and everyone who thinks like you that's retarded.

>Jump potions will not change literally anything because 90% of the playerbase is already trash. You can't buy skill.
Okay lets sell raid gear. It's no different and the same arguments could be used to defend it. Why draw the line at only leveling?
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>>379086878
It'll only continue to get worse because you have a bunch of corporate dick suckers who defend all of this cancerous shit as if they're being paid to do so.
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>>379087126
Leveling is deterministic. Completing a raid is not.
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>have a lot of material
>want to sell some, craft others
>can't because my current shit oon sale isn't moving
>always getting undercutted
>even on shit nobody had anything on it in a long time until I came
Maybe the economy is manipulated by SE to force me on SUBBING retainer!
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>>379086782
>>379086728
FUCK YOU
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>Just realised most of the new gear will be Nip/East Asian inspired
>Doesn't fit my character at all
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Been thinking of transferring away from Balmung, any NAfags on a server other than Gilgamesh that they'd reccommend? Leviathan and Excalibur look like decent options but if anyone knows shit about them that'd be great.
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>>379087232
>Leveling is deterministic. Completing a raid is not.
Yes it is, especially when you consider that all the PvE content in this game, including the high end content, is just memorizing a Simon Says team jump rope dance routine.
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ALRIGHT FINALLY FOUR EYES
TIME TO KICK SOME A---

>boss jumps away
>LotD expires
>BotD expires
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>>379087247
no, fuck you. stone skin cost way too much mana and DPS just fucking ate shit anyway, so may as well not even bother recasting it mid fight.
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>>379087126
>Okay lets sell raid gear. It's no different and the same arguments could be used to defend it. Why draw the line at only leveling?
>what theyre doing is bad because they could be doing this much worse thing that they arent actually doing
Also I'm pretty sure everyone in this thread knows you're retarded. You're not changing any minds, everyone just rolls their eyes at you
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>>379084616

>that feel when I don't want to play alone
>no friends, FC or a static
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>>379086336
honestly, just make it cost 1 lilly and reduce the cooldown to around 30 seconds
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>>379087461
So learn boss patterns and don't blow your cooldowns before they jump, like every other job. Recast BotD before it falls off to keep your Eye stacks.
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>>379087226
I swear to god there is a guy in goblett that changes race every 2 days.
And obviously it has all the outfits too.
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>>379087526
You fags literally never have any way to refute that point.

>what theyre doing is bad because they could be doing this much worse thing that they arent actually doing
It's really not much worse at all. Every argument used in defense of jump potions can be used exactly the same in defense of selling raid gear.
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>>379086878
>Buying weebshit glamour before the weebshit expac comes out
The generic haoris and kimonos shown in Kugane that would probably be DoL/DoH gear or from the Gold Saucer already look more interesting than that outfit.
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>>379087556
iktfb. Except for the FC part, but I hate these people and I only joined so I had some bonuses.
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>>379087258
I can only blame myself for picking a western name.
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>>379087609
I don't understand who looked at the design of a job that says "you can't begin your proper burst until at least 65 seconds into the fight" and okayed it.
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>>379087556
If you don't have an FC you get an invite like every hour
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>>379087751
I'm pretty sure diminishing the value of burst was the entire point of new job changes
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>>379087734
I wonder if they will give a bandage only top.
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What is the balance between resubbing too early but resubbing soon enough to cobble together a FC to do stuff with? Had one in 1.0-3.0 that I'm looking to revive.
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How the fuck did you PLDs stand playing the class before HW? Shit doesn't even get remotely fun until Goring Blade gets thrown into the mix.
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>>379087774

All of them are just invite spam with no structure, only to give bonuses to people. I was meaning an actual FC, with people who talk and do stuff.
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>>379086245
Theres a difference between giving your opinion and lying about things, using slippery slope, and exaggerating to new people what is happening.
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>>379087258
>>379087748
You can do it William-sama!
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>>379087126
You don't earn anything from leveling. You earn something by completing raids. They're not giving hand outs saying "congratulations for not completing this raid". If they do that, I'm pretty sure they'll lose a lot of people. Despite a lot of this playerbase being garbage, a lot of people still want to earn something for what they're trying to do. They're not adding raid gear to the shop. You're literally making a "what if" scenario so you can argue over nothing. Fucking idiot.
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>>379087226
I mean, they're buying these things. Which is kind of incredible to me, though given how people pony up for digital shit on smartphone games these days, I guess it's not that surprising. Whaling is, if it isn't already, going to become a staple of the AAA Tier. You've already seen it go that direction with ridiculously expensive Collector Editions of games, like NieR's $200 one. The Fugu strikes me a little hard just cause the weeb in me really likes it.
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>>379087448
Every game that isn't competitive multiplayer is memorizing Simon Says you fag

Saying that hitting the level cap, which can be achieved by the most rudimentary of hotkey scripts clubbing unthreatening mobs in the open fields is the same as completing raid content means you have brain oxygen issues.
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>>379086363
This guy gets it. A leveling potion in XIV or modern WoW is shaving off 2-3 days of gameplay, and in XIV doesn't even get you to max level. Theres no victory to be had. Do I wish they would go back and fix the MSQ instead? Sure. Is the existence of a boost a dealbreaker? Not at all.
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>>379087886
Yeah, but think about it practically.
An average pull in a dungeon should last 30 seconds. Do the eyes carry over? Do they have no duration so once you collect 4 you can blow it whenever you want? What about stuff like PotD where you're literally unable to play jobs correctly because there's no time to set up any of your shit? And conversely in raids, by 1 minute mark people are already way past the burst windows, so you'd have to hold geirskogul until 2m when people get their synergetic cooldowns back. That's hot nonsense.

It should be changed to 2 or 3 eyes, but not fucking 4. And why 4? That's also an awkward number since you do 3 per minute which means that you'll get Crimson Blood (fuck the translation) in the middle of your other sequences, it's awkward as fuck.

But then this dev team okayed A FUCKING LILY and a monk skill that makes them go slow so I don't even know what's happening anymore.
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>>379087268
Behemoth. It's great as long as you ignore/avoid the BR's. Leviathan a shit tho
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>>379087960
By being very, VERY drunk.
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>>379087908
It would be something for Weavers to make and it will cost 5M to buy off the market
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>>379087556
I can be your friend anon
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>>379088206
>and in XIV doesn't even get you to max level.
It doesn't do that in WoW either
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>>379088259
What's wrong with Leviathan
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>>379087960
the most boring thing i ever played indeed

it is still boring..

it still looks a bit boring in SB
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There's only four mounts you're allowed to use in Stormblood: Company Chocobo, Midgardsormr, Griffon and Adamantoise
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>>379087268
>>379088259

Seconding Behemoth. It's pretty chill. Not super populated but not a ghost town either. Never have to wait long to get queues even as a DPS and don't have trouble even doing some of the older content.
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>>379087987
There's no lies here. You can't cry slippery slope fallacy when it's literally been getting worse and when you can easily observe trends within other games in the genre.

>>379088031
>You don't earn anything from leveling.
Stop being retarded and stop lying. If you didn't earn anything from leveling it wouldn't be in the game and people wouldn't be crying to be able to pay money to skip it.

>You earn something by completing raids.
You don't earn anything from completing raids. See how easy it is to say something completely retarded like you just did?

You only care because you're the type of cancerous idiot that has polluted modern MMOs who think the entire game revolves around raids. That's why we never get interesting content anymore and why everything is shitty cancerous instanced brain dead faggot raids.

>If they do that, I'm pretty sure they'll lose a lot of people.
Because modern MMO players are a bunch of hypocritical moron raider retards.

>Fucking idiot.
Says the person who is literally and objectively an idiot.
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>>379088031
You earn levels from leveling? Hello?
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>>379087960
In 2.0 it was the only worthwhile tank, in 2.1-2.5 you usually brought one instead of two war due to the LB penalty.
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>>379088390

Say it in red
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>>379088456
Flying Mount Roulette for life.
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>>379080786
this is like trying to read a yugioh cards effect now
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>>379082338
asmongold
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>Every mount is dumb looking
>Walking is painfully slow

I miss when moving around quickly in MMO's relied on buffs and not some stupid horse/chicken/dragon you have to constantly get on and off of
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>>379082673
most of the actual women I've met play man cat, actually
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>>379088690
You can sprint :^)
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>>379088690
>>Every mount is dumb looking

Come on now. I'm sure there's a mount in there you like. Try the Bomb Palanquin.
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>>379088690
You have two airship mounts now, even if one of them is a super-tiny gag one.
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If these jump potions are just for levels and not content, I'd buy one. I want a PLD for solo play and the aesthetic of sword and board hero type, but I cant stand leveling it and have no desire to do group content with it.
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>>379080786
>Look at how many Dragon eyes I have
>PATHETIC, HOW MANY GEIRSKOGUL ARE YOU ON AT THE MOMENT
>I dunno, like 2-3?
>YOU ARE LIKE LITTLE BABY, OBSERVE
>*NASTRONDS*
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>>379088885
And we are getting a third one in Stormblood that turns into a kart when you touch the ground.
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>>379088519
Don't worry anon, you can even join my fc
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fuck that last challenge

Been doing chocobo racing since the event started. Time to log off til SB I guess.
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>>379088690

Flying motorcycle bug is great. You're dumb looking.
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>people still play mmos

What the fuck?
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>>379089076
>people still play video games
BACK THE FUCK OFF????
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>>379088456
>not riding the Witch's Broom as a caster

The fuck outta here nigger
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>>379088471
Of course but there's no open world pvp so you don't an advantage over anyone in that regard. You can't say "this guy beat me because he's higher level!"

>>379088467
I'll go ahead and say that XIV is my first MMO. I simply haven't played other MMOs because I didn't grow up with a PC and mommy wouldn't pay for my subs even if I wanted to play MMOs. It's not my fault for what others have done. I'm also not lying about anything, you're putting words in my mouth and continuing with your "what if" bullshit. The real problem is that SE hasn't added anything that's even remotely fun or interesting outside of raids. It would be nice if they did.
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>>379089135
Just because something doesn't provide a tangible reward doesn't mean someone isn't winning.
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>>379089119
>people still play shit video games

Uhhhh excuse me?
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>>379089040
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>>379089235
Nobody is racing anyone to be the highest level. There's no competition. People race to see who can clear what faster, whether there's a reward or not.
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The fuck is the ver prefix on every rdm skill, it's a tad annoying
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>>379089053
This is stupid. You're stupid. i hate everyone that rides anything but a Chocobo.
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>>379089241
>people might enjoy things you dont
Whoooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
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>>379089040
I'd join an Umineko fc. Are you on Shiva?
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>have steam copy of FFXIV Online
>bought non-steam expansions
The refund can't come sooner.
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Anyone on Primal Data Center want to do anything?
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>>379089336
Ver means True in some language, I don't remember which. Wikipedia that shit. It could also be shorthand for Vermillion. Maybe it's both.

Alternatively just scream about Koji being a hack.
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>that awkward feel when everything I want out of a FC I get on /v/
>the discussion, shit talking, people not being afraid of hurting others feelings and being willing to shit on one another yet also okay with giving advice and helping
>any /v/ guild type thing ever is immediately consumed by outrageous faggotry and has none of the qualities that /v/ as a board actually has
>tfw you have to settle for some normalfag FC and try to contain your autism
It's an awful kind of feel.
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>>379089596
>Alternatively just scream about Koji being a hack
Skills had "val-" preffix from when people translated japanese tooltips during the latest live letter
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>>379089704

My FC has alright people but they talk about the dumbest shit and there's a lot of circlejerking because some of the members know each other in real life. No big drama or shitstorms though and everyone gets along relatively fine and is always willing to help out.

But listening to them talk about the SB changes these last few days made me realize they literally have no idea what the fuck they're talking about.
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>>379089704
>tfw you have to settle for some normalfag FC and try to contain your autism
I hate this, but this is life.

>>379089767
Yeah I liked that better. Fits with the game lore. I'm not denying that Koji is a hack.
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>>379089704
I always keep you fags's thread up while I'm playing.
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>>379089704
ZR is okay, we have a few faggots but they are contained.
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>that one area in the new hub world named "Umineko Tea House".
I know where I'll be idling from now on.
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God damn this game has some comfy locations. The Memeroons Trading Post and that Salthound Mill area is comfortable and cute.
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>level a character from 1-48 in like 3 days
>now completely burnt out and have zero drive to make it to 50
what do
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>>379089704
There used to be a linkshell on gilgamesh like this but then the leader of it became a ravenous faggot and so did some others so now it's a circlejerk where you can't hurt their feefees but they'll backstab each other in an instant and talk shit about everyone behind each other's backs constantly.
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>>379089704
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>>379081951
Lucky cunt
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Developer makes game:
>Fucking shit! This game is SHALLOW! This game is EASY! Why do you cater to idiots?

Developer makes game with feedback considered:
>Do you really expect me to read and memorize this shit? This game is too DEEP! This game is too HARD! Why do you cater to no-life NEET nerds?
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>>379082338
yung maestro
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>>379089331
>Nobody is racing anyone to be the highest level.
False.
>There's no competition.
Then there's no competition in raiding either.
>People race to see who can clear what faster, whether there's a reward or not.
Which is a made up race fabricated by dumbass raiders. So one could easily claim that leveling is crucial to be able to participate in world first raids, but one could also argue that world first level cap of a job matters too. There used to be feats of strength (super achievements) in WoW for being the first person on your server to hit the level cap on whatever class you were playing.

Just because you're a retard doesn't mean raiding is the only content that matters and the only content that you can pay to win in.
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>>379090210
yung maestro is okay
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>>379089704
Cross server friend list/linkshells/FCs will help a bunch with this kind of thing. It'd be great to do content/chat with some of you dudes but everyone's on different servers.
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>>379088519
What always bothered me about the whole "everything i say in red is the truth" is that the very line she explained that with wasn't in red

I never finished umineko so is that ever brought up or just an oversight?
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>>379088259
>>379088464
Behemoth seems pretty good but do you know how the housing market is? Is it anywhere near as bad as Balmung?
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Is XIV fun if you have a full time job and play it casually?
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>>379090394
Yes.
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>people still respond to the jump=winning let's put everything in the cash shop shitposter
It's the same lines every time. Stop taking the bait.
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>>379090384
It's not bad. A random house demolished next to my fc house and stayed for a few hours before I picked it up
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>>379090037
The light at the end of the tunnel is near, push yourself to get there I hope you've been doing MSQ because the new XP gains from it are great.
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>>379090037
Take a break and do something else.
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>>379090394
No. Avoid this pay to win cash shop in a subscription garbage.
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>>379090295

>"WoW classes are way too homogeneous!" (even though they're not)
>SB homogenizes jobs to insane degree, literally giving them the same skills
>"BASED!"

>"Nice game, Blizzdrones. You'd really pay SIXTY DOLLARS in order to NOT play it? HAHAHAHAHA"
>SB adds not only character boosts for $60, but quest skippers too which cost about $20
>"AWESOME, no more 100 quests of MSQ after ARR!"

>"WoW's combat is fast, spammy shit. The problem isn't XIV's long a- ass GCD, our game is just well-paced, and deliberate, every action means something!"
>SB makes everything faster across the board
>"This is sick, bro! The game will play so much faster and smoother!"

>"WoW babies are simpletons who need shit add-ons like Weak Auras to even PLAY their shitty game LMAO."
>SB adds shitty auras for every job
>"This is awesome! it'll make keeping track of everything so much easier, my thing looks like a rose, bro!"

>"WoW is just too simple, it's almost unplayable."
>SB is literally nothing but simplification across the board
>"All of these changes are AWESOME."
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>>379090394
I have a full time job as a competitive multiplayer tester for a AAA title.

FFXIV is okay
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>>379090472
The only shitposters are the idiots who actually defend this shit.
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>>379090559
In what way is it pay to win? You can't buy anything that aids gameplay at all, can you?
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>>379089704
>Just got pf on mateus
>Try to look for fc ads on there
>Nothing
I just want to start over new on a smaller server, why can't i find friends?
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>>379090012

Link me.
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>>379090713
>looking for fc ads
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>>379090703
Why are you replying?
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tfw white mage
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>>379087126
>Yes they do. It's a clear advantage over someone who progresses normally.
Whats the advantage btw? I don't mind a shit for someone completely new that just skips all content. Roulettes are stupid easy anyway, and I'm pretty sure I won't be raiding with someone with that skill level.
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Should I play SMN or MCH for SB? I'm a monk main but the changes to it make me furious. Also don't wanna play SAM because everyone's gonna do that shit.
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>>379090703
I've already had to spoonfeed you multiple times. Leveling up aids gameplay. Stop being retarded.
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>>379090881
SMN is turned into ruin machine and the caster slot is gonna be infested by RDM bandwagoners
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>>379090780
https://youtu.be/xi_7ydc0XqQ
Around 55 second mark
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>>379090137
The key is to listen for feedback from normal players, not just endgame raiders. Catering to raiders has always been a mistake.
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>>379090245
>Then there's no competition in raiding either.
Uh huh, that's why people compete to see who can clear faster. Oh wait, that doesn't happen in your own little fantasy world made up of what ifs and things that aren't related to this game.

>Which is a made up race fabricated by dumbass raiders.
It's almost as if people make up races all the time. Like racing to space, racing to conquer another country, racing to see who can get a job done faster, racing to see who can make better computer parts etc etc etc.

I don't know about when BCoB came out but every other raid and trial, people were already level cap and ready to go as soon as it so your argument for trying to see who could get to level cap falls flat. I guess the MB is pay to win too since you can pay for mats to craft things faster than others if you have the gil. Are you gonna complain about that? Raiding is all that matters IN THIS GAME when the devs don't make anything else that's even interesting.
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>>379090852
>Whats the advantage btw?
They'll be at the level cap sooner, which allows them to gear up and do content while it's still new and relevant. This means they'll get to do it while everyone is still learning and looking to make groups. This is an advantage.

>and I'm pretty sure I won't be raiding with someone with that skill level.
Raiding takes no skill, this is why they should just go ahead and sell raid gear too with the jump potions. Don't try to fool anyone into actually believing that tab target hotkey team jump rope takes even a tiny fraction of skill. If you want to actually see skill look at high level fighting game play, where execution actually matters and there's no dance routine to memorize that will guarantee that you win every time.
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>>379090965

>it's real

I hope it looks beautiful, going to spend all my time there.
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>>379090881
as a BRD I looked into MCH a bit and the changes seem reasonable, definitely a second choice for me
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All it takes is one retard taking the bait and we're right back into it.
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>>379090960
Already have a static so getting that caster slot isnt an issue but wasn't SMN already just a ruin machine with 3 dots tacked on?
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>>379081203

How do mobile games do so well? How did this even happen?
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>>379090573
the only people I know who are happy about the job changes are playing jobs that got more complex, so you can fuck off with your strawman.
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>>379091205
Yeah but now you'll literally cast a Ruin of some kind every GCD bar two GCDs every two minutes,
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>>379091245
Gacha.
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>>379089704
>that awkward feel when everything I want out of a FC I get on /v/
>tfw you have to settle for some normalfag FC and try to contain your autism
It is the fucking worst.
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>Making a big deal about rank promotions for being an FC member for X amount of time
>Making a big deal about each and every recruit in a WE INVITE EVERYBODY! type of FC
>"WOOT got my/did my/finished my <minor accomplishment>!!!!!

I can't do this. I can't be around this garbage.
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>>379090394

Depends on how much you put into it.

I'm in the military and work 12 hour shifts and sometimes don't have access to the game for weeks at a time depending on what's going on. But I still managed to get 6 classes to 60 and gear them up appropriately just playing a few hours a day when I can.

You'll need a FC if you plan to get into the hardcore raiding stuff but keeping up with normal content is easy.
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>>379091061
>Uh huh, that's why people compete to see who can clear faster. Oh wait, that doesn't happen in your own little fantasy world made up of what ifs and things that aren't related to this game.
The only thing that's a made up fantasy world is that racing to see who can clear faster is any sort of competitive aspect within the game. It's purely made up by the players, and one could easily race to see who levels and proceeds through the story faster. Racing to see who clears faster is just as unrelated to this game as racing to see who levels faster and who clears the story faster.

>It's almost as if people make up races all the time. Like racing to space, racing to conquer another country, racing to see who can get a job done faster, racing to see who can make better computer parts etc etc etc.
It's almost as if you're fucking retarded and a hypocrite who regularly contradicts your own points.

>Raiding is all that matters IN THIS GAME when the devs don't make anything else that's even interesting.
Stop being retarded. It's only the only thing that matters to you and the rest of the retards who think like you do with your little peanut brains.
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>PLDs go from literally the worst class in the game
>to the highest mitigation and highest tank damage class with the most tank utility
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>>379082135
Only Aphro? He barely does ffxiv, like one or two videos about it in a whole year while he does 100000 videos about souls.
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>>379090573
>SB homogenizes jobs to insane degree, literally giving them the same skills
Same as wow, all roles play simirally with a few exceptions. WHM SCH and AST all play differently with the same goal, and a lot of useless skills were removed. Until the expansion releases we don't know how much homogenized jobs are.

>SB adds not only character boosts for $60, but quest skippers too which cost about $20
FFXIV has a bunch of obligatory quests to clear before catching up with the content, and same as WoW that's more for people who already played the game and have alts.

>SB makes everything faster across the board
SB still has the base 2.5 gcd but the difference with WoW is that it can be shortened and that there are a bunch of oGCD skills to use in between. In short, the GCD is still going to feel slow for WoW players.

>SB adds shitty auras for every job
Not auras, cuz 14 doesnt rely too much on procs, but they just replaced a lot of buff timers and simplified as extra bars, like extra resources for many classes in WoW (warlock's soul stones)

>SB is literally nothing but simplification across the board
Some classes seem like over simplified DRK for example, but you have to take in mind that DRK has to manage two bars constantly and if you though that pressing buttons just when the cd finished is fun just play a rythm game.

And obviously the FUCKING EXPANSION HASNT' EVEN RELEASED WAIT YOU FUCK.
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What the fuck is this shit?
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>>379091442
are you me jesus fucking christ

i manage to do this while overseas
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>>379091521
That's pasta.
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>>379091601
Free debuff purge
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>>379084916
>Single player portion
Anon, this is an mmo. Even if main quests and shit are skipped, who wants to raid with someone who has no idea how base mechanics work? It ruins the game for everyone else.
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>>379091473
>to the highest mitigation
They have always been the highest mitigation, but tank dps is really important in this game.

>and highest tank damage class
DRK and WAR still seem to do more dps that PLD. Its just that WAR seems left out in comparison of having DRK and PLD in a raid comp.

>with the most tank utility
Mostly as a OT, they carry a fucking shield and still DRK with only a big ass sword are better as MTs.
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>>379091601
Human racial.
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>>379091473
Highest mit goes to WAR, but that's all WAR has

I just seriously dislike how PLDs bitched for so many buffs over the two years that SE just decided to make them the god tanks just to quit their tears.
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>>379091601
Berserk clean.
...
Is Berserk even in SB anymore?
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Can't wait to see YoshiP's reaction to the +150 pages of WHM drama in the next live letter.
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You guys can argue which is best tank.
I just want bloodbath back.
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>>379091721
>Seem
I can tell you're just a guy who makes assumptions. People have already mathed the entire rotation out and PLD is leagues ahead of both in PPS.
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>>379091806
berserk does not pacify anymore.
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>>379091601
>taylor swift reference

KOOOOOJJJJIIII
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>>379091806
Yes, but they reduced the buff's power and recast time, and removed the pacification debuff.
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>>379089704
Leviathan /v/ FC when?
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I've never joined a FC / shell because in my experience people radiate dangerous high levels of autism in this game, I hope I'm not the only one who does this. Hyperion is like Balmung - lite sometimes.
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>tfw your FC is talking about something you like/know about
>chime in
>be ignored
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>>379091721
PLD is higher DPS than both tanks. They also have higher raw mitigation (can now block magic attacks). Also the most utility (clemency cannot be interrupted, Cover, Interception, that wing ability which is basically a small LB3)
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>>379092020
There is one, but I don't know if it's good or not.
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>>379092020
>joining anything related to this site whatsoever
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>>379091601
'Nice mechanics, fag' button
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>>379092020
>Wanting to socialize with 4channers outside of 4chan
4chan groups are invariably the most insufferable communities in any video game ever.
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>>379090573
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>>379092057
holy magic mastery is bullshit
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New one.

>A costal tribe which fights with blow-darts made from bones dipped in the poison of the pufferfish. So practiced with the pipes are the tribe, that they can disable a target from 200 paces.
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>>379092057
Don't forget Divine Veil so they can rotate a group mitigation skill every 60s.
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Explain right now why you arent using the vampire vest for future rdm glamours
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>>379092027
this meme is fucking stupid
Apparently all servers are balmung-lite because autism is everywhere
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>>379092082
>>379092164
I've been doing so for almost 2 years now. I ain't stopping now.
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>>379091070
>Raiding takes no skill
It doesn't take much skill if you're actually good at playing the game. A vast majority of people that play XIV are not good at the game. Outside of Japan, mostly all servers have a very very very low clear rate. Even in Japan, the clear rates aren't particularly high. I doubt you've cleared anything while it was relevant and many people wouldn't want things to be easier if they were able to clear it easily.

Not everyone is capable of working together or even doing the small coordination they have to do.

>>379091472
>It's purely made up by the players, and one could easily race to see who levels and proceeds through the story faster
This is irrelevant because nobody will ever do that. Racing to see who clears faster is relevant because everyone who is going to race will already be level cap when the content is released, outside of the intro trials like bismarck and ravana.

>It's almost as if you're fucking retarded and a hypocrite who regularly contradicts your own points.
How so? Let me just get out of the womb and buy a jump potion to be 18 so I have an advantage over all the babies who got born at the same time as me.

Name one thing that matters outside of beating trials and raids. Besides, the jump potions only get you to SB and you'll still have to level from 60-70 regardless.
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>>379091853
Everything was shown as work in progress, and its a possibility they end up changing numbers to tweak the jobs.

I don't make assuptions, but I don't judge pre-release footage as 100% fixed yet.
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>>379092281
I bet you're just fucking awful.
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>>379091713
So don't raid with bad players? You're not fucking forced to.
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>>379092187
That bird is an asshole
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>>379092235
Because the AF body looks better
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>>379091601
Tempered will.
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>>379092317
Nah devs put work in progress just to cover themselves. Were 2 weeks from launch and they showed data to famitsu of the newest build.
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>>379090713
>Mateus
>mfw I almost went to Mateus because the friend I started playing with is named Mat and he wanted to join "his server"
>found out it was a negative pop server
>whew dodged that bullet!
>mfw we joined Zalera instead
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HQ striking and casting right side is where the moneys at in two weeks
You heard it here first
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>>379090965
>it's real
Will I get my deito there?
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>>379091473
>pld barely gets punished from swapping stances as the only rage using skill they have is shelltron
>war has 500 different rage using skills and you need to dump resources before swapping if you don't want to be unnecessarily punished for swapping stances
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>>379091070
Advantage over who? people who prefer to experience the game has to offer.
In my mind, those people are just wasting gametime by doing that, and in the end it's going to be sure they will want to go back and experience the entire game, specially for people who want to see the story.

>Raiding takes no skill, this is why they should just go ahead and sell raid gear too with the jump potions.
So you manage to clear all of Coils and Alexander savage during its prime? Did you clear raiding in less than one month after they were released?
Raiding is not that hard, but it's not faceroll either, it requires a good group, coordination and overall gaming skills that most of 14s players don't have.

Seriously I bet you didn't cleared A3S when it was relevant.
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>>379092506
And you think those numbers will carry to the final release or that they will stay for a long time. You're also making assumptions.
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>>379092187
Xaela are so going to summon a primal of their own beside the Kojin's Susanoo.
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>>379090792
I'm like level 18 dude I don't know anybody on this sever. pls no bully.
>>379092628
The alure of cheap housing got to me, but its so dead. I guess back to balmung
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>>379089704
My FC has 500 members and today finally we were able to somehow assemble a group to do sophia ex. Of course, it failed miserably because people can't into adding and subtracting.

If there's a raiding oriented midcore FC on Shiva, please let me know.
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>>379092506
And yet some JP tooltips are wrong. So stop basing them as fact when we don't have real numbers yet.
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>>379092129
>implying "most all debuffs" will include boss mechanics when fucking tempered will that specifically prevents knockbacks doesn't even prevent most boss knockbacks
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>>379092641
Yes
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>>379084630
The wine arc wasn't that bad for me, but then again I already had explored most of the areas, so I could just teleport around and get what was needed quickly.
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>>379092641

Sup deito-kun.
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>>379092753
I'd believe it, seeing some of the changes that the devs have made and seeing how much PLDs have complained about the wrong things over the last two years. Plus everything about 4.0 WHM is just trash and isn't something potency changes will fix.
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>>379080786
correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't this a "general" thread for ffxiv? Doesn't this belong in /vg/?
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>>379092753
Well yes. Were not going to theorycraft about comps in 4.1 or 4.2 obviously.
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>>379092965
Is this an umineko thread now?
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I don't have a horse in this race but you might be retarded if you think instant leveling doesn't offer you an advantage. You can, however, argue your definition of pay2win as much as you want
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>>379092314
>Outside of Japan, mostly all servers have a very very very low clear rate.
This is more of a community problem than a skill problem. Hotkey tab target MMOs are bottom of the barrel when it comes to skill, with only ASSFAGGOTS being below them.

>I doubt you've cleared anything while it was relevant and many people wouldn't want things to be easier if they were able to clear it easily.
I've cleared plenty of content while it was relevant and I also placed in the top 10 and top 100 of the PvP rankings. Can you say the same? PvP takes more skill than raiding after all since you're not against an AI that you can memorize the patterns of.

>This is irrelevant because nobody will ever do that.
You're retarded if you believe this.

>Racing to see who clears faster is relevant because everyone who is going to race will already be level cap when the content is released, outside of the intro trials like bismarck and ravana.
Yes and the people who buy jump potions will have a clear cut advantage over those who don't in this area. Try to deny it, you can't.

>How so? Let me just get out of the womb and buy a jump potion to be 18 so I have an advantage over all the babies who got born at the same time as me.
Wow you really are retarded.

>Besides, the jump potions only get you to SB and you'll still have to level from 60-70 regardless.
60-70 will be absolutely nothing compared to 1-60. Being place at 60 and only having to level to 70 puts you at the end of the game instantly.
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>>379092843
>tfw most tooltips will be wrong until at least a month after launch because this weeb was too busy jerking off to pop culture references to bother with accurate tooltip translations
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>>379092657
>raiding
>gaming skills
lmfao it requires the bare minimum

>Seriously I bet you didn't cleared A3S when it was relevant.
I bet you've never placed in the top 10 in PvP.
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I had a nice lovely dinner with Ayymeric in HW. Will I get my dinner date with Yotsuyu in SB?
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>>379092990
And I'd believe the numbers are going to be tweaked, but the overall gameplay of the jobs won't. And I know about PLD status during HW, I even switched to DRK to raid but that doesn't automatically means that PLD will be the absolute best tank, yet.

I don't give a fuck either, I play both PLD and DRK anyway, WARfags are the ones being fucked.
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>>379083576

I'm sorry WHAT THE FUCK
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>Hit level 60 in mining
>Look at the gear/token system

ok who the FUCK thought making things this convoluted was a good fucking idea?

>Turn in collectibles to get blue scrips which you can use to buy books that let you see nodes that get you get red scrips but oh wait you need gear to do those collectibles so first turn in blue scrips to get those

W H Y
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>>379091609

Where you stationed at homie?

I'm in Turkey right now for another 5 months but when I'm done here I'll be going to Yokota, Japan for two years.
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>catching up alt through the main story just past King Mog
>feeling a very strong comfy feeling
I miss it
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>>379093238
>I dont play FFXIV for the PvP and that's out of the question of jump potions.

And I see that you're a shitter who didn't clear any savage raid when it was relevant and you're crying about jump potions. Good job.
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>>379093310
Cuck memes have gone too far, they must be eradicated.
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>>379093281
Yes, but then it will sadly get interrupted by plot things.
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>>379093071
Jump potions don't matter. You're autistic. You're arguing over nothing. If people want to experience the story in a story driven game, they will. If they're new and joining because of friends but want to just play with their friends, they'll pay if they actually want to pay $50 to get to level 60 and not do story. They are not adding raid gear. You're an idiot and your made up what ifs about the future are irrelevant.

Nobody said anything about PvP, that has nothing to do with the conversation. I'm sure you placed top 10 in clears. If this is Miunih, then lmao
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I'm still trying to grasp what they want to do with WHM. It seems to me they want to make it a raw healing powerhouse by giving them an "not on my watch nigga" button and massively heal everyone from near death, pbut to fully utilize this you have to spam cure on everyone that gives a stack but for only 15% chance. Like seriously what? Leave the rng to AST, Yoshi.
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>>379093453
Savage raids are a joke. I willingly chose not to participate in them, and I did clear raid content when it was relevant.

Where's your top 10 in PvP? I see that you're a shitter who can't place at the top in the hardest content in the game and you're defending jump potions while citing babby raid accomplishments. Good job.

Jump potions are still pay to win.
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>>379093035
>taking this conversation to the /vg/ general

Anon, have you fucking seen how cancerous that place is? 3/4 of it's posts are circlejerking and the 1/4 is a very small group of anons who actually hold a discussion regarding the game.

>>379093067
The problem I see with level pots is that it's gonna increase the influx of retards who don't know how to play or join the dungeon roulette and spend 3/4 of the instance bitching because they don't know what they are doing.

I lost my hope in humanity when I carried a duo consisting of a healer and ninja who didn't know how to keep his DPS/heal for shit. It baffles me that we almost ran out of time, or the fact that I decided to stick around until the end because "hey they can't be this bad."

That was my very first mistake.
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>>379093281
NO since she's A FUCKING GARLEAN COLLABORATOR
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>>379093071
You honestly think people buying boosts to 60 have an advantage in the race to realm firsts compared to people who are already sixty, have max ilvl for leveling to 70, and have way more raiding experience? Nobody is boosting to win any kind of race. What dont you people get about this? There IS no race. You can say theres a 'race to realm first' (which there isn't even an achievement for like WoW) but people on boosted alts sure as fuck aren't gonna be the ones that reach it.
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>>379080786
>Pop Blood of the Dragon then use Mirage Dive to make Geirskogul better
dumb drg poster.
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>>379093780
We are all hero of our own stories :^)
She dindueru nuffinu
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>>379093705
>Jump potions don't matter.
They absolutely matter, and if you don't think so, you're lying to yourself.
>You're autistic.
Says the guy who defends jump potions for free.
>If they're new and joining because of friends but want to just play with their friends
What if their friends are already raiding and have cleared most of it or all of it? They should be able to buy the gear too so they can catch up and play with their friends!
>They are not adding raid gear.
Because of idiot hypocrites like you with contradicting standards of what matters within the game.
>You're an idiot and your made up what ifs about the future are irrelevant.
Nothing is made up here. Everything I've said would happen has happened to this point.

>Nobody said anything about PvP, that has nothing to do with the conversation. I'm sure you placed top 10 in clears. If this is Miunih, then lmao
Oh but citing babby raid accomplishments is relevant? Everyone who has even half of a brain knows that PvP takes more skill to be good at because you can't memorize a dance routine to win all the time.
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>>379093780
>not wanting to join the Garleans
what has the Eorzean Alliance ever done for you but force you to do all their work for them.
Come join the winning side who will respect and appreciate you.
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>>379092775
Wasn't Alexander already a Xaela primal?
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>>379093071
>Hotkey tab target MMOs are bottom of the barrel when it comes to skill
You know difficulty is relative? Do you know how easy is to make a videogame in assembly? please enlight me.

>PvP takes more skill than raiding
PvP in this game was so shitty during a big portion of HW. And honestly it's not good enough like other mmo's. SMNs were broken the entire expansion.

>Yes and the people who buy jump potions will have a clear cut advantage over those who don't in this area.
Those who race to clear things first are in an advantage? The only thing they can clear are the normal or hard modes, extreme and savage stuff is going to be impossible for someone completely new to the game. Also, why the fuck do you care what other clear or not clear, they're not having any kind of gear or level advantage that you can't get.

>Being place at 60 and only having to level to 70 puts you at the end of the game instantly.
This amount of delusion is so stupid. And so what, people aren't going to be over you, they still have to deal with leveling and 10 levels aren't going to make someone clear a savage raid world first asap. They might as well just be like any other player in the game you woulnd't notice.
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>>379093738
>Savage raids are a joke. I willingly chose not to participate in them
Of course you do.
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Wait, is PLD being buffed to deal insane tank damage?
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>>379082191
>staring at OGCDs
This crap is boring and tedious. I miss 2.0 DRG.
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>>379093379
Don't bother doing them now.
To answer your question, Yoshi P did. He saw the tomestone weekly gates that everyone loved so much and decided to implement it in fucking DoL/DoH. Plus absurdly high costs for dumb shit like books to make it even more fun.
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>>379093441
>just sit in the Rising Sands listening to the music while reading threads
ultima comfy
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>>379094089
>Insane tank damage
No such thing anymore.
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>>379093738
>Savage raids are a joke
>Now watch me brag about my MMO PvP rating, the lowest skill form of PvP on the planet
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>>379093801
>You honestly think people buying boosts to 60 have an advantage in the race to realm firsts compared to people who are already sixty, have max ilvl for leveling to 70, and have way more raiding experience?
No, you fucking idiot. They have an advantage over people who are starting fresh. Even still, buying a jump potion would put someone on near equal footing as you'll be getting gear from dungeons and quests that will partially make up for not having ilvl 270 from the get go.
>You honestly think people buying boosts to 60 have an advantage in the race to realm firsts compared to people who are already sixty, have max ilvl for leveling to 70, and have way more raiding experience?
>realm
Oh boy another cancerous WoWfag refugee come to shit up my game because he got tired of the other game he shitted up with his idiocy.
>Nobody is boosting to win any kind of race.
THE RAIDING RACE IS MADE UP. IT LITERALLY DOES NOT EXIST OTHER THAN IN THE MINDS OF OTHER DUMB FAGGOT RAIDERS. YOU CANNOT USE THIS AS AN EXCUSE.
>but people on boosted alts sure as fuck aren't gonna be the ones that reach it.
Oh but what happened to the excuse about jump potions also catering to the type that only cares about raiding and wants to jump into it as soon as possible?
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>>379094089
They're the heavy mitigators. It'll be interesting to see passage of arms being used in creative ways for Savage+
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How can Krauts be this simple creatures? Literally in every situation they have to announce that they're from germany and then add these in the end of the sentence^^

Is this written in some law in there or something?
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>>379094089
They're being buffed but their damage is probably going to be nowhere near as high as predictions are right now. People are basing numbers off inaccurate tooltips and nobody has gotten numbers at max level yet. It's way overblown.
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>play as DPS
>other players in my group playing the same job are total retards
>play as tank
>others tanks in my group/alliance are ME FIRST I'M MT OMG I WILL TANK FUCK OFF kinda assholes
every fucking time
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People who are saying jump potions are P2W are seriously turbo autist that can't THINK OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAVE MONEY AND DONT HAVE TIME WANT TO SKIP ALL UNNECESARRY BULLSHIT JUST TO PLAY WITH THEIR FRIENDS REEEEEEE NORMIESSSSS.

IM A SUPER RAIDER ELITIST PLACED TOP 10 IN PVP WITH MULTIPLE SERVER FIRSTSSS YOURE GOING TO RUN MY GAMEEEE GET OUTTTT.

You people are pathetic. Don't care about others do if it doesn't affect you.
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>>379093780
Fuck off Major Kira
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>>379093996
>it actually is Miunih

>They should be able to buy the gear too so they can catch up and play with their friends!
Nice strawman, again.
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I'm not a huge fan of jump potions, though I see their appeal.

A better idea in my opinion is to just make leveling less grindy in general. There are 15 classes and you're expected to max several of them, or even all of them. That's so much fucking time to spend just grinding the same dungeons over and over and over.
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>>379094385
The shitty story is the only reason to play this game if you skip it you will be entirely ignorant of the world and do nothing but afk or drop the game after 2 weeks, you will have no attachment to it.
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>>379094352
OT is an infinitely easier and stress-free experience. The entire reason I play WAR is because it's universally (at this point in time) considered to be the better OT than the other two and I'd only potentially have to MT if I'm matched with another WAR.
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anyone have that Autist Nero picture?
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>>379093379
>hit 50
>use your AF
>meld you gear
>crft whatever the fuck you want
>people complain that's too easy
>SE makes it a convoluted mess
>the complainers quit and leave us with this steaming pile of shit
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>>379094385
diamond has been the new gold since season 3, but that doesn't stop people from arguing about it for some reason.
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>>379094535
So playing with other people/friends is worthless?
Honestly I've been playing since 1.0 but as you said its a shitty story and a lot of people just you know, play a video game. You need a fucking manual for it?
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>role skill that temporally nullifies positional requirements

Actually a pretty good idea.
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>>379094535
Things that made me attached to this game were cool as fuck T9 T12 and T13, and definitely not the babby difficulty story about literally who Scions saving the proverbial Africa from an evil empire de jure.
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>healers still can't heal through A11 prey
Don't you fucking throw your smug raise macro at me when it's your fault I died.
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>>379094385
>people argue that skipping levels wont teach you how to play your class
>your class plays very differently once you reach max level and you have to relearn it regardless
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>>379092646
>>pld barely gets punished from swapping stances as the only rage using skill they have is shelltron

And intervention. You know, the skill that is going to cuck PLD into OT because their DPS is amazing and they have more utility as OT than MT.
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>>379094078
>You know difficulty is relative?
MMOs like this are not even a little bit difficult.
>Do you know how easy is to make a videogame in assembly?
Irrelevant.
>PvP in this game was so shitty during a big portion of HW.
Raiding in this game is so shitty during a big portion of HW. And honestly it's not good enough like other mmo's.
>SMNs were broken the entire expansion.
lmfao it's clear you don't know shit about what you're talking about
SMN was only broken in the beginning portion. If you want to see a broken ranged DD look at MCH.
>The only thing they can clear are the normal or hard modes
[citation needed]
>extreme and savage stuff is going to be impossible for someone completely new to the game.
These aren't the only people who will be buying the jump potions. Regardless of who's buying it though, it's still cancer and it's still pay to win.
>Also, why the fuck do you care what other clear or not clear, they're not having any kind of gear or level advantage that you can't get.
I care about the game as a whole, and being able to buy any form of progress is pay to win and SHOULD NOT EXIST IN ONLINE MULTIPLAYER GAMES.
>This amount of delusion is so stupid.
They're literally going to be put at the same level of story and leveling progress as everyone who's at the level cap now, ignoring alt jobs, which are going to be completely unnecessary come Stormblood with cross role abilities instead of cross class abilities.

>>379094086
Statics are gay and raiding is boring. I love how idiot raiders think that anyone who doesn't do their babby easy Simon Says team jump rope dance must be incapable, as if there's nobody who's familiar with how dumb and obnoxious raiders and raiding is that they willingly choose to avoid it.
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>Miunih is complaining and being autistic here because everyone in EM will just laugh at him

Way to go, turbo autist.
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How hard is Soph EX? only extremes i have done are Garuda, Titan, Bismarc and Ravana. with lot of mechanic skipping as i started doing EXs last patch.
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>>379094269
MMO PvP still takes more skill than MMO PvE. The point wasn't to brag about PvP, it was to invalidate their dumbass PvE clears argument as if it holds any weight or suddenly makes jump potions not pay to win.
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>>379094629
Why not just play a dps job then?

>>379094826
What do you do in the game? I'm sure by now you have heaps of money ,so what do you do?
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>>379094826
>Statics are gay and raiding is boring.
Videogames are boring, get out of this thread to your basement and keep complaining about this world.
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So how many people are just gonna idle at the beach or underwater?
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>>379094826
>. I love how idiot raiders think that anyone who doesn't do their babby easy Simon Says team jump rope dance must be incapable
Isn't it so?
Go into a dungeon, see a Shire+Kinna hero doing ARR dps, every fucking time.
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>>379094917
Easiest extreme of the game.
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who /malboro/ here
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>>379094826
Why the fuck are you playing this game if you don't like simon says team jump rope dance? That's literally the entire game leveling 1-60.
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>>379094779
>fates and PotD exist
shitters will be shitters no matter what unfortunetly
>>379094917
Sophia is one of the easier EX primals
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>>379094385
>Don't care about others do if it doesn't affect you.
Buying raid gear doesn't effect you either. Just don't buy it dude. It doesn't effect you. Bads will still be bad so why do you care?

>>379094412
I don't even know who Miunih is.

>Nice strawman, again.
It's not a strawman if it's literally how you're acting.
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>>379095020
Zurvan is easier regardless of how retarded the community is with soar.
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>>379094925
>pay to win
>You don't win anything
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>>379094916
who?
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>>379094743
*temporarily
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>>379094917
Personally I have found Bismarck to be stupid easy. Soph requires you to learn a bit of the scales mechanics which can be problematic but after that it's just the usually simon says.
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>>379094287
Everyone uses the word realm in XIV I dunno what you're sperging about. I played since 1.0 launched.
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>>379095103
People say this, but idiots wipe to broken seal 90% of the time.
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>leave thread for two hours
>people are still arguing about jump potions

Jesus Christ
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>>379094456
I don't like the idea either, but there's really no way around it for them. Forcing new players to trudge through hours upon hours upon hours of now so horrifically defunct content just to reach the point of relevancy is something that just gets harder with every major expansion, and it's really not a good way to sell a game.
My opinion is that new players will definitely not have the same experience with ARR and HW that people who played them as relevant content did, which was the way the developer's intended it to be played. The jump potions aren't so much skipping valuable content, they're skipping old and outdated content to reach the new content before it too becomes outdated.
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>>379095076
>Bads will still be bad so why do you care?
I don't care, read my entire post, I don't give a fuck to those who use the jump potions.
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What did they change about the combat? I remember hearing there was going to be big combat changes
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>>379094917
People will claim it's the easiest EX in the game but in actuality it's among the hardest to get accustomed to. I can do it with my eyes closed but first time around you'll die a lot, especially if your group DPS is low.
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>>379094925
Getting to level 50 doesn't clear raids, Savage or otherwise.
Getting to level 50 doesn't rank you in PvP, or even put you in a bracket for PvP that matters.

I don't see how one side makes it any more relevant than the other tbqhwyf.
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>>379094935
Queue times, my dude. Aint got time for that.
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>>379094412
>still responding after numerous threads where he shitposts in exactly the same way with exactly the same 'arguments' and exactly the same insults
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>>379092835

What's your name?
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>>379094935
>What do you do in the game? I'm sure by now you have heaps of money ,so what do you do?
Whatever I feel like. I'll do random extremes, random raids, grind for whatever I'm interested in, PvP when I want to. I care about all content in the game and I enjoy completing everything the game has to offer, including leveling. Being able to buy your character to a high level with all mandatory content up to that point flagged as cleared is pay to win.

>>379094976
>Go into a dungeon, see a Shire+Kinna hero doing ARR dps, every fucking time.
Those people are just extra retarded or they're watching netflix or something. Just because some people are unbelievably retarded and shit doesn't suddenly mean that MMO PvE is even remotely challenging or requiring of skill.

>>379095048
>Why the fuck are you playing this game if you don't like simon says team jump rope dance? That's literally the entire game leveling 1-60.
>implying this is the only content in the game
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>>379094743
>use before trick attack
>sudden boss turn can't fuck with you anymore
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>>379094535
This is complete bullshit. I have friends who paid me to boost their characters long before this was even announced and they have been playing for months, and one of them years. People come to this to do dungeons, raids, crafting/gathering, maybe for the RP scene. Not for the MSQ that while large, takes up 1% of your total gametime if you've been playing for over a year.
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>sophia ex is one of my favourite trials but I got her bird back when it was fresh so I have no reason to join the farm parties now
fug
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>>379094753
>die to prey in a12s farm
>"raising <anon> for being a dumbass <se.1> <se.8>"
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>>379083848
How to spot the fag who thinks he's smart.
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>>379094816
Oh no they're 'cucked' into guaranteed raid spots forever with little responsibility. Meanwhile WAR might as well not exist soon.
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>>379083848
>three new jobs but no classes

Why would you want new classes
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>>379095271
Jump potions are cancer, they should only jump you to level 30 but allow you to skip story content. There's no fucking reason to have them level you to 60 of all places. It cheapens the experience of what the player base pre jump potions has been to.
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>>379095362
It was bullshit. Nothing is changing the combat. It's just classes are getting new skills or getting skills removed.

Yoshida is a hack and lied again. Pure genius.
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>>379095464
>cleared is pay to win
No it's not. It's just your delusions of being an adicted autist to the game.
They don't affect you in the slightless and you can keep doing the same stuff without noticing people around you got the jump potion.
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>>379095104
I guess all those quests, dungeons, and trials that can be failed and are regularly failed by people don't qualify as winning. I guess getting level ups which require you to win in content don't qualify as winning. Oh that's right, I forgot that idiot raiders think that the only content that qualifies as winning is beating raids. How silly of me to forget.

>>379095228
>Everyone uses the word realm
Wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. Wrong.

>>379095316
>I don't care, read my entire post, I don't give a fuck to those who use the jump potions.
Cool lets spread the word so we can get raid gear on the mog station too.

>>379095381
THAT ISN'T THE ONLY CONTENT IN THE GAME, AND IT'S NOT THE ONLY CONTENT THAT MATTERS.

IF YOU WANT TO BE TECHNICAL, YES LEVELING UP DOES CLEAR RAIDS AND DOES RANK YOU IN PVP BECAUSE YOU NEED TO LEVEL TO EVEN PARTICIPATE IN IT.
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>>379095369
>Zurvan
>easier than Sophia

Don'r understand where this meme comes from, Sophia EX is easier than some Normal mode shit.
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Everyone who says raiding is easy in MMOs conveniently never proves it by showing their progress, or they say "Psh. I just dont feel like raiding but I totally know I can do it."
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>>379095645
> It cheapens the experience of what the player base pre jump potions has been to.
LUL
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>>379094330
>It'll be interesting to see passage of arms bein
Until they nerf it anyway.
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>>379094917
Full image?
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>>379095271
>implying it's not one guy and his phone
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>>379095725
If you want to be technical, you need to be level 60 currently, and level 70 in two weeks. Jump potions do neither of those. If you want to be technical. :^)
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>>379083848
>three new jobs but no classes

Are you fucking kidding me?
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>>379095759
It does.
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>want to play RDM on launch
>know it'll be infinite queues forever
>still want to do it
somebody talk me out of it
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>>379095725
See
>>379095494
The MSQ makes up such an insignificant fraction of the game that you have no reason to be freaking out over people skipping it. At the same time I personally think people who buy boosts for something they can finish in 4-5 days is equally silly, but hardly an issue to me.
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>>379095725
>Cool lets spread the word so we can get raid gear on the mog station too.
Come on, thats just shitposting. Jump potions don't affect anyone but its obvious if they add functional actual raid gear (which is never going to happen even if you tiny autist brain doens't believe it) people will seriously make an uproar.
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>>379095725
Here's a (you)
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>>379095194
Bismarck back in it's time of relevancy was probably the most fun extreme in the game. Splitting the party into two light parties to juggle adds and jumping onto bismarck and switching roles to cycle out the debuff timer felt so fluid and engaging as a group. Even in normal mode, I still get hype when everyone's preparing their buffs and shields as they wait for bismarck to get close enough to jump on.
Also, the theme is amazing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shMaev-dSFI
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>>379095876
Do it. You just need to make better use of your time while you're leveling instead of getting to a dungeon quest and going "Oh, better queue up and sit on my ass doing nothing while I wait for this."
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>>379095876
Enlist a tank and/or healer to come with you.
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>>379089053
>That buzzing sound it make
I love it.
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>>379095645
>It cheapens the experience of what the player base pre jump potions has been to.
Speaking as someone who has maxed every class in the game and has been playing since day 1, I do not give a single shit if a complete stranger buys a boost to skip all the boring shit from ARR.
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>>379095725
>Wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. Wrong.
You clearly are a fuckin autist. Ok no need to keep arguing with you, go back to your basement and complaining about things that aren't going to change.
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>>379095579
You must be talking about yourself, and everyone defending this shit. Classic Dunning-Kruger effect at work here with jump potion and cash shop defenders.

>>379095630
Classes were actually pretty interesting and offered some more depth and options. They should have refined them and had them as counterparts to jobs as an alternative option. But they're lazy and only care about money now instead of making a good game so that and anything else that requires creativity and effort got thrown out the window.

>>379095723
It is 100% pay to win.

>They don't affect you in the slightless and you can keep doing the same stuff without noticing people around you got the jump potion.
Neither would people buying raid gear!
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>>379095950
>Also, the theme is amazing.
My nigga. I fucking love Bismarck's theme, both phases.
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>>379095914
>a known shitposter who's been recycling his content for weeks is shitposting
YOU DON'T SAY
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>>379095725
(you)
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>>379096002
>mash two directions
>nye-nye-nye-nye-nye-nye-nyoooooooooo
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>>379095494
These people that still don't know the characters and nations history after 500h of playtime, they disgust me greatly.
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>>379095774
has a penis
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>>379096042
Then you're what's wrong with the game, can you honestly say you would be as attached to xiv if you could have just skipped everything?

This is what KILLED WoW.
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>>379096071
Yep we just have a retard who thinks being contrary = benig smart.
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I can attest to this. A friend of mine paid me to boost his first character to prepare for Stormblood. The short bit he did play pre-50 he was skipping cutscenes anyway. Now I basically have to lead him around by the hand unlocking side dungeons, 50 dungeons, 60 dungeons, explain what roulettes are, explain what guildhests are and why they dont matter, explain who the fuck Aymeric is (why is he asking me questions now?), explain what POTD and Aquapolis is, etc. I mean sure its fun to teach new players about a game, but stuff they should probably already know about not so much. The problem with the boost is that XIV is the kind of game where you get REALLY fucking bogged down if you boost your first character. You dont know what 10% of anything is. Its not like WoW where you can just stroll into all the dungeons and raids merely by hitting 110.
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>>379096150
...Go on?
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>>379096071
>Neither would people buying raid gear!
The jump potion doesn't give them usefull raid gear, and it will still be replaced in 70. Who cares about leveling 60 to 70 with ultra gear when everything about it is piss easy.

You're just thinking this wayyy too much, but I guess thats for an autist like yourself.
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Post your /playtime 's, faggots
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>>379096150
and?
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>>379095950
>Bismarck
>relevancy

You mean the one time you killed him to get access to Ravana? You didn't actually kill Bismarck multiple times right anon?
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>>379096150
Imgur it then, please.
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This guy is like Barneyfag.
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>>379095813
>Jump potions do neither of those.
Yes they do. If you're going to argue with me at least know what the fuck you're talking about instead of being the literal retard I've been calling you this entire time. You're going to be able to buy jump potions that take you to level 60 and flag all of Heavensward as cleared too.

>>379095902
But if it's so insignificant why do people need to skip it? Why do people need to pay to skip it? It's so insignificant!

You want to know what's really insignificant? Raiding. You get 1 extreme mode boss every 3 months, 4 savage mode bosses every 6 months, and 1 alliance raid every six months. That's insignificant compared to the rest of the game, especially when you factor in that raiders only really consider savage as raiding content, so you're only getting four bosses in circular or square arenas every 6 months. Wow, it's fucking nothing.

>>379095917
Here's your (You)
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>waiting 11 minutes for a trial as a tank
UN
SUBBED
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>>379089372
i bet you play male midlander too idiot stop posting now
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>>379096159
Again, I don't care. I worked for it because that's what I wanted to do. Someone else not wanting to work for it has absolutely no effect on my enjoyment or how I spent my time.

It's vitally important for you to step back and recognize that you're talking about a video game. Relax, you tremendous goober.
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>>379096265
I killed him like 4 times until it dropped by bird
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>>379096150
correction: 2 penises
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>>379083848
>>379083751

FFXV, FF7R and Kingdom Hearts 3 are still draining resources.

We're paying for all the other games SE are developing.

FFXI pays for FFXIV's budget
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>Titan Hard (roulette)
>other healer gets landslided in phase 3
>solo heal the rest of the fight, raising the folks who bomb themselves to death
>Tank says "commend the WHM"
>5 commendations
im not in a good mood, i swear
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>>379096063
Not an argument.
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>>379096265
Back when bismarck ex weapons were considered decent ilvl jumps, anon.
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>>379096353
>still responding
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>>379096331
are you queued in random langues or something
i can queue for anything as a tank and get in >30 seconds every time
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>>379096328
>You're going to be able to buy jump potions that take you to level 60 and flag all of Heavensward as cleared too
Oh good, so I'll be able to walk directly into Stormblood raids and level 70 PvP as soon as I log in with my fresh 60 boosted character.

Nice!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kE4278B3UE
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>>379096223
The dungeons are unlocked with the boost.

No one does guildhests aside from crafters

All the cutscenes can still be viewed.

POTD and Aquapolis are not part of the leveling and story experience, you would have had to teach him anyway.

The level boost and the story skip are two seperate things.
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>>379082056
>DRG is much improved and in a solid spot
>idiots STILL find something inane to bitch about
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>>379096426
and
>Wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. Wrong.
is really an argument... omg I'm laughing so much at your turbo autism... Do you ever leave your house btw?
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>>379095774
I think that one has two dicks, Id share it but I cant find it
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>>379096432
>Back when bismarck ex weapons were considered decent ilvl jumps, anon.
So never because what you did was that you bought i170 weapon first thing and then upgraded it to 180 after an hour of hunts instantly outclassing the Bismarck drop
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>>379096479
I queue for Zurvan Hard without _F_.
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>>379092775
That's just the stupid mount we get for doing the MSQ. You can see it already if you run the Benchmark.
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>>379096408
>play AST in 24 man
>look at everyone's gear, single out the 12s raider with bis
>shower them with cards, favor enhanced over expanded
>they actually rip aggro at one point
>only get one comm, but know exactly who it is
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>>379095362
They overhauled some jobs like BRD and MCH and simplified others while add new skills to reduce the skill disparity of casual and hardcore players.
In a way it might encourage casual players to do midcore content (it won't).

They also added Job gauges which are visual cues for job-specific mechanics, this is to help track them easier compared to just numerical ones.
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>>379096262
318 days
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what's the most complex class to play?
list top 5 in order from most complex to least pls
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>>379096328
I just said it my man. I agree that its insignificant. I agree that paying for a boost to me personally seems like its not worth it. The issue with the MSQ is multiple issues actually, not just the length. Its boring as fuck. It turns people off of the game. It gives them bad impressions about what they'll be doing later on. It bogs them down early on with inane things, and doesn't direct them to important things like it should. Going back and redoing it all from scratch would be incredibly costly and time consuming at this point. Like making half an expansion of time consumption.

When I talk about content in terms of percentages I mean the time played doing them, not how long the first time you do it takes. Do you just do a dungeon once and never again? Do you just finish a raid once and never again? Do you just fill out your craft/gather log and never do any crafting or gathering?
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>>379096617
That doesnt just stop you from being with Frenchies. It stops you from being with anyone who clicked to allow Frenchies, and like 99% of people have them all toggled on. Stop being a baby because you ran into one bad French person.
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Ninjas, tell me, do you have a standard rotation at all?

I find myself just upping timers as they run out, and filling time between with regular combos, but it doesn't follow any sort of pattern.

I use ACT and I can see that I keep up with others DPS-wise, but I'm wondering if I'm playing the class wrong or something.
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Stop being white (mages)
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>>379096617
It still pairs you with French players if they got other languages flagged.
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>>379096179
>benig smart
Yup, you and everyone else defending jump potions and cash shops in subscription based MMOs.

>>379096243
>The jump potion doesn't give them usefull raid gear
That's right, which is why they need to sell raid gear too.
>Who cares about leveling 60 to 70 with ultra gear when everything about it is piss easy.
It's about being given a level 60 character with all previous mandatory content flagged as cleared instantly. That's pay to win.

>You're just thinking this wayyy too much, but I guess thats for an autist like yourself.
You aren't thinking enough, which is I guess should be expected of a retard.

>>379096386
Yup, and dipshit drones will still defend the cash shop and jump potions saying they're okay with it because it will go back into the game.
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>>379096545
This is not verified yet. The MSQ dungeons sure, but there was no evidence that suggests they unlock all the dungeons for all the roulettes. Either way a newly boosted person is going to be lost as fuck because I guarantee they didn't even prepare a "Hey I see you're boosted, would you like to learn about.."
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>>379096791
Mnk > pld > nin > brd > mch > blm > sch > smn > war > drk > ast > drg > whm
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>>379096791
They're all easy as shit but seems like the popular opinion back then was MCH, DRG, DRK, SMN and NIN.
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>>379096953
No that's what you should do
I hope you enjoy the pld rotation WE will have in SB :^) Not having a rotation set in stone too complicated for shitters
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>>379096791
As of current:
>BRD
>MCH
>DRK
>SCH
>AST

A lot of people will say that BRD is easy, and they're right. BRD has a very low skill floor, but an incredibly high skill ceiling. Similarly, SCH is a job that can make just about anything happen, given the right player.
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>>379096560
>chooses to ignore all the actual points that were made, just like he has been doing this entire time

>>379096798
The boosts and cash shop should not exist at all, and anyone who doesn't agree with that is objectively wrong.

Do you just level one job and never again? Do you just do the dungeons and trials content required to level up once and never again?

Oh wait. People fail this content too, so by paying to clear it they're paying to win in that content which would previously bar them from progressing further.
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>>379097021
>MNK/PLD
>Complex
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is it wrong to buy a jump potion for for crafting
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>>379097387
Well yes, because you can't.
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>>379097421
oh shit really?
damn it my plans are ruined
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>>379080968
>7 lines
>it's 8 lines
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>>379097478
Yup, none for crafting, only combat.
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FOUR

RUINS
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Do people really need 60 levels to ``learn'' a class?

Really boggles the noggle.
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>>379097574
Not really. An hour in Potd can tell you what you need.
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>>379097284
>anyone who doesn't agree with that is objectively wrong.

This is how you dont debate. All of that is content, but you can only do the MSQ once.
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