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FFXIV Welcome to Stormblood, how did we mess up your job?

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FFXIV

Welcome to Stormblood, how did we mess up your job?
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>>379067445
DRK technically got better but I'm not hyped for a single combo spam and being unable to use pre-cast Dark Arts because now both Syphon Strike and Soul Eater can consume it.
Time to go back to PLD and cosplay as Cecil.
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Opinions on MCH changes?
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>>379067780
Looks pretty good and fun. If SAM doesn't satisfy me I'll return to my MCH
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>>379067445

PLD Main here you made me one of the best jobs in the game.
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>have every melee DPS at 60 but mainly bounced between MNK and NIN
>have DRK and WAR at 60 for when I felt like tanking
>started leveling PLD, should be 60 by SB
>planning to use SAM

I think I'll be alright. I like using MNK the most but even if it turns out completely awful at least it shares gear with SAM so I can transition over easily.
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>>379067445
You took the two dots that made us moderately interesting to play, gave us a cooldown that eliminates our haste and inflicts the worst part of dropping GL from us, a means of refreshing our Greased lightning that requires the fight to be specifically designed to use it, and gave us a Traited Gap closer that will literally only ever amount to 20 extra potency.
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>>379067445
Who knows. SMN got tossed and turned and blended. On paper it looks bad at first glance, but I feel this isn't all there is to be seen. We're definitely becoming more focused on single-target damage as opposed to AOE though. There's so many little tweaks and changes to SMN across the board it's hard to tell at this point.
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>>379067445

I don't know what I want to play yet in SB. I don't know if I want to stick to MCH, move to BRD since they look like they have more utility, or move to SAM which I wanted forever and suits a weeb like me.
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>>379068047
>us
*upvotes*
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>>379067445
>WHM
You tell me faggot. Switching to RDM day 1, I don't even care about being behind the content curve I'll take a few days to level from 50-60.
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>>379068047
Don't forget one gap closer creates a gap between you and your target.
Who the fuck came up with that shit?
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>>379067739
>being unable to use pre-cast Dark Arts because now both Syphon Strike and Soul Eater can consume it

This. It'll take getting used to. Then again I'm switching to SAM for going through story to 70 then just spam dungeons / new potd to lvl DRK.
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>>379067445

You fixed Paladin and made it the best MT by far

thank you
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FOURTEEN DAYS PEOPLE
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AST present, pretty happy.
Sleeve Draw and Undraw are pretty nifty, not to Earthly Star's 900 potency aoe heal that does admittedly take 10s to ramp. It's still even a 600 potency heal if you fire it immediately, -and- it's got a 150/200 potency hit on it for enemies.

Lord and Lady is also nice. Lots of nice things.
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Who else is looking forward to Azim Steppes over Kugane/Doma?
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so what will BRD play like in Stormblood? do i have to switch rotation on the fly depending what song i am using at that moment?
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Which one is for you, /v/?
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I like the changes they did to WAR. They changed very little and gave us more of what we like, building up slowly and then hitting like trucks.

My only regret is that SAM will now beat us at the big numbers game.
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>>379068243
isn't raids release like month after SB launch, so you can chill and compkete story or level most of things you like?
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>Nobody likes MNK
>So let's keep everything exactly the same
>And give them a CD that makes them even less fun for 30 seconds

Amazing
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>>379068537
Gridanian but an Immortal Flame.
I had no idea it'd reset your 'home state' when ARR first appeared, so when I went to play Arcanist I ended up as a Lominsan in the Immortal Flames.
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>>379067445
RDM seems to be proc based as opposed to consistent output, and WHM was gutted pretty good.

Meanwhile DRG became even more straight forward, and I have no idea what to think of new MCH.
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>>379068537

Where is my Ishgard GC
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>>379068537
Till sea swallows all!
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>Have to go to a wedding on the 16th for most of the day
>Wont get back till that night

fug
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>>379068503
It seems like you want to start off with Army's Paeon to build Repertoire, then unloading with Wanderer's Minuet and using Mage's Ballad as filler.
All the songs work off of DoT crits, so they seem to play the same.
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>>379067445

Bane nerf seems too heavy handed. It should drop by 10% for each new target and then bottom out at 50%.

Other than that though SCH seems to be in a pretty good spot.
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>>379068712
I'm going to marry the admiral!
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>>379068476
Looking forward to Othard in general.
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>>379068612
Any DPS beats you in big numbers you dumb fuck, thats why you're NOT a dps class
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>>379068740

Weddings are pretty cool to go to though. If it's a classic wedding, and people don't skimp on the dinner and party afterwards.
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>>379068503
Not really, no. The mechanics for the three songs all interact with the DoTs procs, so you'll just have to keep those and straight shot up: hell, Paeon will be just a passive buff.

Most of the optimization will come in which order we rotate the songs, I think, like refreshing the dots under Paeon damage buff.
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>>379068771
Bane'd DoT potencies drop by 20% beyond the first target, up to a maximum of 20% less damage.
It's a very minor nerf.
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>tfw no Lyse gf
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>>379068865

Othard will probably be very pretty but I am looking forward to the story in Ala Mhigo more since we've been hearing about it forever.
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>>379068537
Flames for life. That 1v1 against Raubahn in the Grand Melee was the tightest shit.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p39wHhRdWpY

>Carbuncle is using Gust instead of Garuda's Wind Blade
Did they finally fix egi glamours?
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>>379068870

I said big numbers, not overall DPS. Nothing could come close to Fell Cleave.
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>>379068929

I might need to re-read it.
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>>379068984
>What is crit flare
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>>379068984
>Nothing could come close to Fell Cleave.
Cute.
t. SAM
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>people still think PLD will be good
LMAO enjoy the view from your cuckshed for 3+ more years
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>>379068091
BRD has been pretty streamlined, between that and MCH it seems like a choice between having more buttons to press vs. thoroughput
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>>379069020
The one in the media tour is mistranslated, it works exactly the same as 4.0 Flare, but with a smaller drop in potencies.
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>>379067445
Scholars still have Dissipation.
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>>379069050

>My only regret is that SAM will now beat us at the big numbers game.

I'll take reading comprehension for 500, Alex.
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>pvp queues on the weekend
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>>379068740

Nigga, weddings are great.

>free food
>free wine and beer
>free cake
>don't have to brings any gifts or shit unless you're actually close to the bride or groom
>if it's not a family wedding, there's usually tons of decently looking chicks there that are down to fuck to distract themselves from the jealously that another woman is getting married

Go and stuff your face them come back and play SB all night. Sounds like a good day overall.
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Did they switch the VAs between ARR and HW?
It feels like they've suddenly gotten so much worse.
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>>379069091
>being this buttblasted
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>>379068537
Gridania
Comfiest setting
Best squadron HQ
Cutest leaders
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>>379069142
Reading is for nerds.
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>>379068984
I bet my DRG jumps are doing better numbers since STR nerf
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>>379068984
except there was always battlevoiced raging strikes fire IV and wildfire, even a crit jump came really close
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>>379068984
>hello my name is BLM and fell cleaves are my basic spell
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>>379068984
>Nothing could come close to Fell Cleave.
lmao
BLM, DRG and even MNK with a crit Forbidden Chakra could put out similar big numbers.
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>Lalas aren't thicc shortstacks
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I've been in an 8 hour coma and don't know any of the changes. PLD, BRD, AST player here how fucked am I?
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>>379069091
>t. War from his cuckshed
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I am just too fucking excited about the PvP changes. That on top of finally being able to level via PvP(if the exp is good enough, at least) has me giddy. Doing BGs to break up the PvE while leveling was always one of my favorite bits of MMOs, glad to see they're coming around.
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does anyone have pic with all the new skills? or just DRG and BRD skills. hopping around the videos is annoying.
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>>379069186
Switch to japanese voices and the problem is fixed.
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>>379067445
Finally getting a big summon and of Bahamut makes up for any nerf to Bane and removing a single dot.
BLM also looks pretty good as I was always shit at keeping up Enochian and now it looks like I'd have to immensely fuck up to somehow drop it.
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>>379067445
Smn is now spam ruin without thinking about anything.

Thanks yoshi
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>>379069320
AST main here, we're absolutely solid(300% shields on Noct now huaehue)
WHM got absolutely fucking trashed and are pushing up lilies on their grave
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>>379069604
So, exactly like 2.0 and 3.0?
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>>379069505
>no new tanks and healers so queues for dungeons and roulettes will be unbearable
>able to level up in PvP
>people will finally queue for PvP without needing bribes like GARO
All according to keikaku.
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>>379069651
Found the shitty SMN.
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>>379069686
DRK and AST didn't alleviate queues in any significant amount.
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>>379069525

Isn't the Japanese voices and the english voices vastly different? In mannerism and speech entirely. So you'd play with Japanese voices with faulty subs.
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>>379068712
>shoots her own men to test armour

The admiral's pretty fucking metal.
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>>379069651
No, because you're only watching 1 timer now instead of 4 since the new bio and miasma have the same duration
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>initial AST ability animations best of all jobs
>SB abilities also some of the best of the expac

Feels even better being the best healer for another year
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>>379069774

>Add one of each role
>People disperse more evenly between the roles
>WHAT THE FUCK THIS DIDN'T DO ANYTHING FOR THE QUEUES
>Add only dps
>Some tanks and healers leave to play said DPS just to do something new
>IT WASN'T ANY BETTER LAST TIME
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>>379068537
Ul'dahn and a Flames. Gridania is super comfy but not enough sun for my cat.

Limsa is probably my favourite city, though. I love the verticality of it and the pirates angle.
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>>379069860
Sleeve Draw's animation is fucking sex.
Also Earthly Star's big burst with the stars and constellations absolutely shits on any other heal spell animation, period
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>>379069774
queues were almost instant for more than two weeks for dps, especially in leveling
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>>379069774
>this fallacy again
They kept people tanking and healing which is what matters.

My queues as DPS right now is only 10 minutes. Compare to 2.4 when they went over 40 minutes per queue. It'll be even worse in SB.
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>>379069947
Earthly Star is disgustingly beautiful. I remember first seeing holy and being blown away but it now just completely pales in comparison.
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YOU'RE PLAYING A HEALER

BUFF PEOPLE

GODDAMNIT WHY ARE PEOPLE SO RETARDED IN PVP

IT'S THE LEAST YOU COULD DO
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They listened to every single complaint about tank balance so WAR and DRK lost all their utility while PLD gained the most dps and raidwide mitigation.
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>going into new xpac as a tank
>preparing to have my dick blown by strangers for quick queues

god damn I love tanking
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>I played PLD, AST and BRD before this

Futures so bright I gotta wear shades
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>>379068968
>he calls you Lieutenant if you're max ranked
Zero regrets. Flames for life.
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>>379070327
Nobody will care. You're not that special.

Reminder:

>I’ve mentioned this on stream on several occasions before, looking at the data all throughout the 3.0 series, people who have been playing as a tank or healer whenever a new expansion is introduced, they will first try to level their main job, and we did introduce the Dark Knight and Astrologian as tank and healer respectively. The player population didn’t seem to change too drastically…
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>>379070187
Someone has to try and kill people the rest of the team isnt doing it.

Also fuck the ice.
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>>379069320
Paladin deals 25% more DPS than the other two tanks.
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Do I absolutely have to have every stat green for the 40 mission? What should I do to increase chances? Train for tactics, class changes maybe? I'm just trying to brute force this shit for the rank.
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>>379069860
>>379069947
>>379070103
>Collective Unconscious
>Celestial Opposition
>That snazzy style when drawing or shuffling cards
>Earthly Star in 4.0
My only wish is that we got to keep Disable's or Stella's animations. Stella was gorgeous, it's a shame it was on a useless skill.
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>>379070489
No just do it
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>>379069926
Yoshi said with evidence that adding a new tank didn't really affect how many people were leveling and playing tanks. The whole "Everyone picked up DRK and quit DPS when it came out" was nothing more than a myth.
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>>379067982
Haven't read much on Stormblood blood but I used to main PLD when I played, so why this?
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>>379070489
Send them off, the chance is based on how many stats you have in blue.
Unless 4k seals is a big expense for you, just send them until they succeed.

Or you know, shift 100 potency from Strength to Tactics by training.
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>>379070457
>almost 350k healed
How is this possible?
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>>379068629
It's amazing how monk kept the same rotation for two whole expansions. And then SAM comes along and steals its identity while doing it better. I'd be pretty pissed as a MNK main.
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>>379070581
see >>379070476
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I don't like these reflections. Floors that are often used shouldn't be this shiny. Not to mention this effect makes grass look like a shiny floor when it rains.
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>>379070630

They also appear to have to most damage taken so people were probably trying to focus him and never succeeded
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Excogitation and the fairy tether are both abilities that if they hadn't changed cleric would have made sense by giving the scholar more tools to avoid situations where they might have had to drop cleric.

I don't get it.
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>>379070457
>healer bragging about his damage
>still lost
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I just got mining to 60 and botany isn't far off

My gear is shit though - I just about have 600 GP but don't have enough perception to get 450 on collectibles

Where can I get better gathering gear? I only have like 1 million gil. Also is it even worth buying gear with the expansion around the corner?

Also how do you make money off Gathering?
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I'm playing in trial mode and will not sub until I hit the level 35 cap with every class possible. I'm doing right?
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>>379070715
Why does it matter? You benefit from it either way by having more safe room to dps.
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>>379067780
>Opinions on MCH changes?
>WELCOME TO THE RICE FIELDS
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>>379070715
>Drop Excog for the tank buster and pop the fairy tether
>Pop the crit debuff on the enemy and the new CS
>Go wild spamming Broil II
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>>379070779
>safe room to dps.
There's zero risk to DPS now that Cleric Stance is gone.
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I really want to fanta my SCH main as an elezen but that neck is killing me
Any elezenfags around here? Are there robes or light armor that hide the neck and shoulders a bit?
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>>379070771
Whatever works for you, anon.
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>>379070715

Now you can just hit those and continue casting broil or refreshing DoTs when you might have otherwise needed to turn cleric off to heal.

SCH is going to be super lazy.
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>>379070552
>Everyone picked up DRK and quit DPS when it came out
Who said that
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>>379070771
It's a good way to save time if you actually want to get them all to 60 later.

I wouldn't do it myself though. But I guess that's because I already know which classes I like.
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>>379070762
Found Misuzu Takane
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>sch goes from 5 aoes to 2 in sb
hold me
im glad that the new skills theyre getting are cool but in terms of dps the only complexity sch really had was getting dots down right
shadowflare is a 1min cd now (instant cast), aero is gone with the introduction of role actions
bio 1 turns into bio 2 at level 26
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I want to reroll SAM but don't want to get too behind my level 60 friends. What's the most efficient 50-60 levelling possible?

Obviously I'll have a food buff active at all times, does heat of battle apply to POTD? How about those scrolls you can get from follower missions?
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>>379067780
The whole overheat system seems pretty fun.
Btw it's a 20% damage buff when you get overheated.
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>>379070952
Just change to DPS bro.
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>>379070489

Bro get on my level of suffering
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>>379070887
Back when I was Elezen I used this robe from Amdapor Keep HM/Wanderer's HM. Anything with a tall neckline will do. Some neck accessories can help a little.
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>>>/vg/
>>>/vg/
>>>/vg/
I guess the autistic janitor who deletes anything and everything likes your shit game since I see this shit every time I come on
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there's literally nothing to do until June 16th, why are there still daily FFXIV threads?
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>>379070771
I would more use it to see what ARR class you like, to try out gathering for a bit, and once you get what ever you want to 35 sub then. Hope you're having fun anon!
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>>379068712
Too bad everybody in Maelstrom is either incompetent, a warmonger, unintelligible, or irrelevant.

Like fuck I just wanted the coat.
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>>379070925
Stop trying to rewrite history. Back at HW launch everyone was talking about how all the edgelords playing stuff like NIN and DRG were going to pick up tanking just because of DRK. It never panned out that way and the existence of a new tank didn't prove to increase the amount of people willing to tank in the first place. Adding a new tank doesn't do shit because tanking itself is a chore to most people.
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>>379069283
>tfw no shortstack gf to hug
It physically hurts to exist in this state.
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>>379070952
Numbers aren't final. Thats wishful thinking of course, but who knows.
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>>379071141
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>>379070887
Lots of robes and caster gear covers the neck well, I actually never even noticed the long neck until I tried out a melee class and wore its low level armor.
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>>379070887
Min height helps the proportions.
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>Want to at least level BLM to 60 before SB
>Completely burned out of PotD after going full autism getting DRG, MCH and SMN to 60 there
>BLM still lvl 34

I've reached my limit and I can't break it
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>>379070428
slurp it up, DPS monkey.

Tanked in ARR, tanked in HW, tanking in SB.
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RDM or SAM which will be more fun?
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>>379071208
It's not like they'll make Shadow Flare into a GCD and allow us to cast Bio and Bio III separately again.

Those clowns think that you can merge fucking DOTs on a DOT class.
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>>379071247
Fucking eyeglass fucks. Your kind ruins the game
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>>379071079
I want to but dps queues scare the shit out of me and i dont have many active friends to party with
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>>379069778
Only matters if you understand japanese.

I do, but I can't read kanji to save my life so I use it to know what the fuck is actually being said when Lominsan speak. Fuck Koji Fox.
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>>379071247
This guy knows.
>>379071431
kys
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>>379071420
Honestly this could be fixed by undoing the Bane nerf specifically on SCH and then buffing Tri-Bind to 60/70 potency and making it ACN so both can use it for filler.
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>>379071431
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>>379071169
>It never panned out that way
It did, that's why everyone said how shit DRK were for like a month or two until gordias 4 was cleared.
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>>379071247
normally i'd say >>>/xivg/, but first i have to say that your elezen is cute as fuck. 10/10 would adventure with.
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>>379070327
A E T H E R
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>>379071528
>buffing tri-bind

Guys I found the dev that won't let yoshi get rid of it.
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Recommended class for a dummy who is happy just doing DPs by spamming the same thing over and over? I'm bad at mmos but enjoy the gear progression
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>>379071475

What ails you? Needs you must complain about our refined language? Confound it all!
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>>379071528
No, SCH really needed the Bane nerf. It requires so little effort, GCDs and MP to do a lot of aoe dps.
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Wait what was last confirmed about BRD? It didn't get dumbed down did it?
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>>379071720
haha
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Did you get anything good from that loli cat this week, /v/?
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>>379071657
SAM
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>>379071657

I think Dragoon is the easiest of the dps classes? You just need to focus on your combos and stand in AOEs, and you'll do fine.
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>WHM
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>>379067445
>be me
>visit /xivg/ to see what kind of degenracy /v/ has been talking about

I don't see anything wrong, it's literally a mixture of /v/ and avatarfags. People will answer game related questions like here in /v/ except that there's some kind of waifufaggotry going on just like /v/. Either that, or I'm a degenerate myself.
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>>379071247
normally i'd say >>>/xivg/, but first i have to say that your elezen is npc as fuck. 10/10 would click on for quest.
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>>379071705
>Have to apply 3 dots then and OGCD
>Meanwhile WHM and AST have already done that damage with 4-5 Holy or Gravity

Hello???
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>BLM
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>>379071837
There's an ebb and flow to how bad it gets there. I'd say check back a week after SB
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>>379071837
People who aren't retarded attention whores migrated here because they actually wanted to talk about the game instead of having POST CUTE C@BOIS XD
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>>379071959
Back to /vg/, falseflagger.
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>>379071512
Disgusting. Just remove your character from the game.
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>>379071806
I thought they were tank? Sorry still new to game

>>379071826

>stand in AOEs

Can do
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Gimme Good Dragoon glamour or i will eat your souls.
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>>379067739
>tfw macro'd DA to SE and got used to it
I'll be fine.
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>>379072056
Fuck off back to your containment general
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>>379071512
Finally some good taste in here. Not a huge fan of chocobo hair but it's the only screen I have.
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>>379067445
> DRK, NIN, SCH main
I think I'll be okay and I play all tanks too. It think pretty much everyone but white mage will be okay.
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>No muscle slider for male au ra

I just wanna be a jacked dragon warrior
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>>379072047
No, SAM are melee DPS. All damage, no real utility. I wouldn't really say it's simple, though. Simple in concept but less so in execution. You might also like MNK.
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>>379072202
so damn ugly
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>>379072251
they're demon you dummy, learn the lore.
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>>379069283
That's Granblue though, isn't it?
Whenever I see these cute comics with cute shortstacks it turns out to actually be Granblue's harvins. Lalas are shit and not cute.
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>>379072268
Isn't all the utility just baked into the crossclass system now?

You can still take Goad and shit as SAM
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Starting an alt, PLD or WAR?

Is pld still fucking boring?
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>>379072251
>tfw want to fantasia to male au ra
>tfw face options are too edgy
>tfw hips are literally made for breeding and mpreg

The concept art for au ra was really good for both males and females, I just don't know how they managed to massively fuck it up.
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>>379071248
>have BLM 80% of the way through level 59 and enough gear to reach 250 once I hit 60
>burnt out on the game after the first Gubal run and haven't touched it since
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>>379072416
Why the fuck would you start a alt in this game?
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>>379067780
>Opinions on MCH changes?
Overheating for Wildfire computes to be only a SLIGHT increase over simply staying within high heat which means once again MCH is a mathematically underbaked class (esoteric shit you had to pull in HW to get the most out of it like Gauss Barrel not always being a DPS gain). I'm honestly not sure what the fuck they're doing with it.
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>>379072416
PLD is looking fun for SB
Just choose what you find aesthetic
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>>379072348
Not all utility, no. Role actions obviously provide some utility but other jobs just have utility built in, like RDM's Embolden, AST's cards, PLD's Intervention or DRG's Dragon Sight.
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>>379072047

WAR PLD and DRK are tanks. WAR is arguably the easiest dps class, but they also got tank responsibilities on top of that. Depends on the fight really. I main WAR and sometimes feel like a glorified DPS.
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Warrior's essentially the same.
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>>379072469
Playing in another server with friends
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Are WARs better in SB or worse? It's the only tank I like to play really.
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>>379072576
>>379072558
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>trial roulette
>it's an early ARR trial that lasts 2 minutes
How fun. When will they fix this shit?
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>>379072558
fun is nerfed
i want bloodbath back

don't care for the new stuff
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>>379072651
>complaining about fast trial clear
Are you fucking retarded?
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>>379069193
Dem titties. Is that official art?
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>>379072736
Sorry for wanting to have fun in a video-game.
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>>379072268

ok. thanks for help.

I also thought that the game was free up to a certain level? I was able to login before and play but it says my account isn't valid now. Is it not free up to a level and I was bamboozled?
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>>379072784
If you want a specific trial queue for it fucknuts.

Roulette has rewards so you will join and help do old content some poor SoB needs to progress.
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>>379072834
It's free if you're starting a new account. Once you register, gotta pay good goyim
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>>379072834
There is a free trial that just caps you at level 35, but you would need to download it again/make a new account if you had one before.
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSdfPXFGuw0
>6:00

Please tell me that's going to be the main battle theme. It's funky as fuck holy shit. FF games never fails to deliver OSTs.
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>>379072445
>implying those aren't only positive things
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>>379067445
BRD looks fucking dank so i'm happy.
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>>379072784
Then go do the trail you have fun with, unless you're doing roulette for the reward? Then don't complain about fast clears.
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>>379072751
Not sure if it's official art, but that's what Nophica looks like yes.
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>>379072751
Yes
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>>379073010
It sounds like dungeon music to me
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>>379073010
The first theme out of the two plays as the final dungeon boss music.
The second on iirc plays in overworld battles.
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>>379073010
Might be a dungeon theme.
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>All those cool as fuck animations lost on DRK
Fuck PLD and fuck tank balance.
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>>379073260
>The first theme out of the two plays as the final dungeon boss music.

Well it certainly has a "liberating" feel to it. So I assume we will be liberating Ala Mhigo.
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post yfw you played WAR, MNK or WHM

>tfw mained all three
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>this fucking eyesore
How long until I can buy wings in the cash shop?
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>Gravity looks massive as fuck
>It has 5y of range
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>>379073428
>tfw PLD, DRG and NIN main
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>>379073010
>>379073260
No the overworld battle theme is a leitmotif/rearrangement of the Kugane theme
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>>379073584
>only
it's the radius, idiot
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>>379073584
>Gravity is STILL not available in Lv50 dungeons
200% mad
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Delete Deep Meditation
Make One Ilm Punch generate one chakra

BAM Monk is fixed
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>>379073584
>there's about 5-6 enemies clumped up together
>only 3-4 damage numbers pop up
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>>379073704
You know what I meant and it's still annoying as fuck that even though the effect of the skill is so big but the area of effect so small.
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>>379073730
Who cares? We will completely make WHMs irrelevant soon anyway.
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>>379073159
Could've used a better image
>twin udders
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>>379073594
i'm honestly considering swapping from MNK to NIN in stormblood if things end up awful, been having a lot of fun with NIN even in PotD since it scratches that urge for going fast just like MNK does
the riddle of fire skill alone kinda makes me hesitant about the class now
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>>379073968
SCH still has shadowflare
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>>379067982
>>379070581
Leave Stormblood to us.
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>>379073968
You still have Shadow Flare idiot
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>>379068712
This cunt as always reminded me of Jane Lynch.
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2.0 SCH:
>Bio II
>Miasma
>Thunder
>Bio
>Aero
>Shadow Flare
>Miasma II

4.0 SCH:
>Bio
>Miasma
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>>379073428
Warrior is literally the same minus bloodbath. Everyone lost damage reduction combo bonuses.
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>>379074150
>>Thunder
Really?
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>>379074182
>:Warrior is literally the same
It's less flexible because you need to give up half the gauge swapping stances.
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>>379070887
>muh neck
Every race other than potatoes have the neck problem, it's just more noticeable on Elezen becaues of their height.

But who the fuck gives a shit about necks when half the gear in the game covers it up and with the other half you can cover it up yourself with a choker of which there are dozens of different kinds?
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>>379071248
so level it by doing other things. PotD isn't the only way to level
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>>379074243
Those were the days.
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>People that are afk all the time in the same spot
For what purpose?
There's even a guy that has been doing the eastern dance emote with idle camera in the same spot for almost a week.
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>mfw the demi bahamut takes up most of the screen and makes it hard to see mechanics
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>BLM
Not a whole lot changed besides the enochian requirements. Triplecast and leylines teleport is pretty sexy though. Until I see lv 70 mana costs, I'm not sure how best to work umbral hearts into the rotation
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>Verholy animation is miles better than Verflare
>Verflare doesn't even do that implode effect or screen shake Flare does
Boooooring
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>>379074182
And then PLD gained Passage of Arms on top of Divine Veil, which was already strong but just not meta because of high uptime debuffs. Now WAR and DRK only have Reprisal to help the entire group instead which PLD also gets.
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>>379074331
On Leviathan, there's a guy who has been AFK dancing in Limsa since I started the game in 3.0
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>>379074125
>Intervention

But why? That only seems useful for shared cleaves.
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>>379074125
>AoE with no bonus enmity

For what reason?
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Should I feel bad if I undercut stuff on the market by a significant margin because I don't give a fuck about the economy or making big bux
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>>379074474
So you can be the best OT
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>>379074474
You don't have to use it for the bonus effect. You can just use it on the MT for every single tankbuster. Paladin is the perfect OT.
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>>379074490
Yes and you shouldn't be selling stuff if you don't care so much about money.
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>>379074490
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>>379074125
this is ridiculous

they are too strong now, WAR should be the best tank not PLD or DRK
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So I went to fight Ultima Weapon but instead got 1 hour of cutscene.

Thanks for carrying me I guess.
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So can you give a new player some advice? Once I reach the requirement to progress into a Job, whats the benefits of continuing to level out my classes and not just focusing solely on my Job level?
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>>379074125
can't wait to spam total eclipse in towns to annoy people
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>>379074657
There is literally no reason to stay as a class.
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>>379069505
what are the pvp changes?
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>>379074247
I mean I suppose but you can do inner beast and fell cleave on half a gauge.
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Two warriors can duo T13.
I wonder if we will be able to solo T13 at some point in Stormblood.
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>>379074542
What else can PLD do with his Oath Gauge? I assume there's more than the two abilities in that montage.
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>>379074657
Theres no benefit to not immediately just becoming your job.
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Where can I download XIV soundtracks? FFShrine doesn't work properly and /xivg/ never updated past 3.1.
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>>379074489
Off tanking.
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>>379074573
But I only wanted a little bit of Aldgoat Leather, but I had to buy a huge stack, and I didn't want to keep the rest. Not to mention all the stuff I carry around from grinding low levels. I'm new to this so I don't know what I should be keeping or what I don't need in the end, so I've just been keeping my inventory neat and tidy while making a little bit extra.

Am I being a bad person by undercutting?
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>>379074790
They took away Bloodbath so it might be tough.
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>>379074795
Fraid its only two. If Yoshi gave them a DPS ability with it people would just use it and nothing else.
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Im just hoping that with the big hype and people queuing up that POTD farm groups will be easy to join. The idea of mindlessly grinding 50-60 is just...ugh
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>>379074832
No, undercutting is a major part of a free market
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>>379074797
>>379074683
Alright, straight and to the point, much thanks my friends.
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>>379074657
Your main class levels with your job. For example archer gains levels while you're playing as a bard
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>>379074243
Good times son.

2.0 healers were fun as fuck.

>>379074135
Just another braindead OGCD
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>>379070552
DRK wasnt very new player friendly desu
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>>379074828
You can OT just fine with other jobs using skills that have enmity attached by simply not being in tank stance. All this does is force them into shield oath when mobbing.
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>>379067445

>wheeling thrust procs after every chaos thrust and F&C after every true thrust

why couldn't yoshi do this to begin with
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>>379074832
Yes you are. Put it at, or slightly above, market price and It will sell.
>>
What I hate about some of these Job gauges is that the timer starts up when they're still doing the animation to activate phases, notably DRG's BotD and SMN's summoning Demi-Bahamut.
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>>379071431
>>379072025
>>379072294
Hey it's the autist from yesterday that rated everyone's characters. Sorry to hear about your mother being murdered by a pair of glasses.
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>>379074945
"DRK is a expert level tank" - Yoshida
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>>379074840
Paladin might be able to.
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>>379074551
>Paladin is the perfect OT.
This is pretty much uncontested now.
And probably best MT too.
Why play anything else?
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>>379074894
>undercutting is a major part of a free market
You fuck everyone, including yourself.
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>>379074086
>>379074135
>gcd spell = ability with 50% uptime that you need to weave in with an instacast gcd
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>>379074832
Fuck everyone else. If you're just trying to get rid of something quickly, go ahead and undercut. You probably won't be back in that market for a while so who cares about what happens to the prices?
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>>379075048
It'll be DRK/PLD. DRK's edge cleave maintains full potency while in Grit and they supposedly have trick attack now if translations are true. Any comp is 'viable' but this will be the meta.
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>>379075048
6 Fell Cleaves and infinite Bloodprice?
>>
Th-this is still an Ala Mhigo expansion. B-build my chakras, s-slaves..! Please!
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>>379075129
Why do you want to get rid of it so quickly that you jew yourself out of more gil?
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>>379074958
Why would you want to have a boring, static rotation?
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>>379075234
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>>379075048
>PLD is now best OT

care to explain why?
>>
>there are scrubs ITT that will defend the fire IV nerf


S L O P P Y
L
O
P
P
Y
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>>379075065
It's either to sell a small amount of goods quickly or unload in bulk to the point where quantity makes up for the relative lack of profit on single units

But no, everything is a conspiracy against you
>>
>>379075195
>6 Fell Cleaves
and will still do less damage than PLD
>>379075167
>trick attack
debunked
>>
looked at my ping again today to the NA servers and actually averaging 93 while I was at 105 the last time I checked after the move, maybe I won't transfer to EU after all.
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>F-Fell Cleave will save me from the shed!
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>>379075368

It will be easier to spam now with perm enochian and you want them to keep the same potency?
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>>379074832
>But I only wanted a little bit of Aldgoat Leather, but I had to buy a huge stack

Undercut the fuck out of anyone who does this. It's just as scummy to list low level materials in only stacks of 99. Probably some fucking jew that buys up those materials and relists them in giant stacks.
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>>379075368
>nerf
>can do 15 of them in 5 seconds
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>>379075328
Read everything said so far and the image posted so we dont have to type it out 10 times per thread.
>>
It's funny how western fans are screaming casualization while Japanese fans think they are making it so hard for 4.0 that only the hardcore can enjoy it:

http://ff14net.2chblog.jp/archives/51422463.html
>>
Should I pick up a realm reborn? Looking for an mmo to play
>>
>usually really enjoy midlevel MMO content
>haven't leveled anything to 60
>haven't played in a long time
>don't own HW
>played a WHM

So how fucked am I as a white mage if I decide to buckle down and finally do higher level things?
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>>379075456
Nah the trick is to buy the stacks of 99 and sell individuals or sets of 5-10 for 2-3x the price.
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>>379075483
What could they possibly think is being made harder?
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>>379075483
>せめて、撃つだけでDPS上がるアビなどは、ゲージでリキャ戻りがわかるようにしてやれんかね

I agree with that guy so much
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>>379075492
There's a free trial to 35 but keep in mind leveling is basically a tutorial and boring fetch quests. You can level through PvP when SB comes out but still have to complete MSQ either way
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>>379075450
NOOOOOOO
I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE DEE PEE SSS TANK YOSHI YOU TALENTLESS HACK
DON'T LEAVE ME HERE BRO
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>>379075379
But that's fucking stupid.
>>379075254
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>>379075368
Who cares. BLM went to shit since HW, and now SMN is going to shit too.

RDM is the new hot caster.
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>>379075167
It'll be WAR/PLD and because Intervention combined with WAR's cooldowns guarantees that Defiance will never be needed.
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>>379075483
how would only hardcore enjoy that, what's their reasoning

>>379075590
please translate
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>>379075732
t. warrior.
Back to the shed, bitch.
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>>379075518
The game would still be perfectly playable. You just need to find a group that doesn't care that much about the meta if you actually wanted to raid, otherwise its just dungeons and business as usual.
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>>379075590
>>379075483
I can't read moon runes
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>>379068332
>only two weeks to catch up on 3 patches
Fuck
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>>379073010

loving the music for the second half
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>tfw main PLD, DRK and WAR
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>>379075647
Read what I said, sometimes people find the convenience worth the gil loss and of course in bigger numbers it's worth it to steal business from competition.
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>Doing MSQ before SB comes out.
>Get to titan hard again
>That change in dialog

Legit made me feel bad.
>>
>>379075254
Not him, but I'm currently trying to earn enough money in time to buy a house when everyone inevitably jumps ship to get into Kugane. There's going to be a flood of vacancies and I want to get in on that before it's too late since they're all going to disappear in less than 24 hours.
>>
is anyone else ready for the meta in which it's only 1 healer and 1RDM that offheals all their "casted" spells as heals until yoshi nerfs the heals
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>>379075732
>Wanting a tank who takes no responsibility for his survival because of a marginal increase of personal DPS which is already further gutted for tanks
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>>379075573
Have you seen the size of some tooltips?

Some DPS seems to be getting harder. Healers and tanks however will be braindead.
>>
Is it just me or is SB going to change how we do openers? Right now we just unload everything, but now looking at things everyone seems to have some wind up before blowing their load.

Especially summoner.
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>>379075483
One of the comments there has a good point, they intended to make it easier to do decent on each job, not make it easier to reach maximum potential.
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>>379075835
You cant main 3 things you dumb cat bitch thats not how the word works.
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>>379075853
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WAS ABOUT PALADIN TOOK IT'S RIGHT PLACE AS THE PERFECT TANK

THANK YOU YOSHI
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>>379075835
You must not be having a lot of fun.
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>>379075853
>>379075942
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>>379075660
>BLM went to shit since HW
you're not forgetting the entirety of it's level 52-60 skills are you?
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>>379067445
>DRK turned into 1-2-3 spam
>MNK is not looking good
>the STOP PLAYING WHM meme is real

Why even fucking play SB?
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>>379075884
People must have reading issues. Here let me explain to a new person how the new AST skill works.

>You put an AoE heal on the ground you can activate to heal, or wait 10+ seconds to activate it and it will heal for more
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>>379075942
Poor little, executed Gu Bu...
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>>379075868
>wasting mana for rdm heals when noct ast can absorb every kind of damage with the current buff on the shield stance

people probably can soloheal creator 4.0 on week 2 or 3
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>3.0
>main WAR
>have to count my stacks up to 5
>have easy and pleasant time

>4.0
>want to play WAR
>now my simple stacks were replaced with a bar that goes up to 100
HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO PLAY NOW
I CAN'T COUNT TO 100
WHAT THE FUCK YOSHI
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>>379075876
WAR has the best personal cooldown set even excluding IB, and the nest invincibility cooldown because of its 3m recast.
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>>379075853
what quest(s) was this? i kinda wanna read through that point again
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>>379075451
It wasn't hard to spam anyway. Astral Fire will be our main problem now, and that'll be a tighter timer than enochian ever was.
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>>379075590
>At the very least, you can not make it easier for gauges to recycle the return of shrimp etc. that goes up by DPS just by shooting
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>>379076021
I'm gonna play it for the story and the hype fights.
Unless I find a static to do Omega with I'll unsub.
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>>379075843
I read what you said and it's fucking retarded. Instead of someone buying your items in 5 hours, they buy them in 2. Wow what a convenience. Except now people are inevitably going to drive it closer to vendor price.

The big stacks aren't what we're talking about since people will pay more per item in a smaller stack it doesn't upset the market.
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>>379075895
this is correct and very insightful
your probably will delay buffs now to make them allign, like 5 gcd trick attack
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How fun is Ninja? I'm playing PLD right now but I want to level a DPS and I love daggers and thief characters.
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can someone explain the OP pic
I understand the papa johns and carls jr ones but not this one
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>>379076169
Ninja is super fun and has low cooldowns

i'd say play NIN or DRG
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>yfw this is a 2 month old build and balance is exactly the opposite when SB releases
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>>379076169
Just play what you think looks cool.
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>>379076209
>Telling people to suffer through 5 billion levels of IMPULSE DRIVE

Stop that
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>>379076153
>My value placed on convenience is the same as everyone else's
Okay
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>>379075898

This seems true for things like MCH and SAM maybe, but ninja looks brain dead as fuck now, DRG doesn't seem that bad since red BOTD seems simialr to MCH wildfire in that you want to put out as much as you can before it runs out.
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>>379076184
Samurai, son.
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>>379076210
would explain why they immediately posted that topic listening to WHM
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>>379076092
And on top of that now you get the good version of shared skills instead of shitty old ones and rampart too.
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>>379076231
Except Monk LOL
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Friendly reminder that mch is looking like it's going to launch in a broken, underpowered state while bard has gotten every single flaw in its toolkit fixed and has never looked better.
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>>379076210
>exactly the opposite 8 months after SB releases

fixed that for you
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>>379076272
How important is it that you sell something in 2 hours instead of 5? The market isnt gonna bottom out in a day unless people force it to like you're doing.
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>>379076269
Fixed in SB.
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>>379076169
It's fun. But if you're part of the Naruto guys, who like to do thar ninja run, please reconsider. My autism can only handle set amount of ninja runners
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>>379076329
Yeah! haha!.. ha... ha...
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>>379076317
Who?
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>>379076269
They're fixing the Impulse Drive spam in SB
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>>379076002
The skills that made BLM shit by turning their rotation into the rigid "muh Enochian" crap, killing all the flexibility of the ARR BLM?
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>>379076096
The Beast that Cries at the Heart of the Mountain.
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>>379076338
Even with overheating actually increasing your damage and not actually decreasing it?
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>>379076272
>Tanking the market and hurting yourself to save some time that can be spent doing anything.
You're just stupid.
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>>379076231
Well I do think Ninja's and Thiefs are cool so I guess I will.

I heard about some kind of ping issues with Ninja though, I'm on PS4 so it's difficult for me to figure out my ping. Do you think it'll be an issue? How will I know if I'm experiencing it?
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>>379076269
>start as drg
>don't read tooltips too much
>don't do any math about what skill combo gives better dps at current lvl
>tfw i thought i was doing good dmg with default thrust combo
Ignorance is bliss.
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>>379076092
No, it's DRK. They have the blackest night and just that is better than anything WAR could possibly do.

You want PLD as an OT and WAR are bad MT now that you can't switch with a simple press of a button.
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>>379076031
>Gu Bu Xanadu
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>>379076329
>>379076405

w-what happened to MNK
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>NIN teleport can be used more now

Do you think they actually made it useable in combat? As in, now slow as hell to use? I'd love an emergency AoE avoider.
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>>379076397
Fuck your autism I'm going FAST
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>>379074331
It's really creepy when they DON'T AFK.

>little female lala just sitting on a bench for days on end, watching her dog minion run around
>is never flagged AFK

I don't know if she just sat there talking in a linkshell or what.
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Why are you guys saying PLD is OT now?
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>>379076338

I'll agree with you in that bard looks amazing and will bring a lot to the table but I'm not sure what you mean by being broken and underpowered.

Personally managing heat during a fight seems a lot more fun then the way it currently works.
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>>379076021
Because you're a good Final Fantasy fan and Square Enix is your god.

You should be grateful that they're allowing you to buy it.
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>>379076537
Bet you smash that spacebar as well you filthy weeb
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>>379074410
What does the ver- prefix even mean
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>>379076540
you can turn off auto afk
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>>379076518
They ruined its gameplay
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>>379074417
Ishimu or something, right? Yeah, he's like a permanent fixture. I have NEVER not seen him dancing near the market.
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>>379076540

You can turn off the AFK flag in the settings. People who bot do this so they won't get the AFK flag when they bot
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>>379076613
Because I want to play PLD and I prefer to OT
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>>379076518
Nothing, people being overdramatic bitches. It plays the same.
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>>379076613
Yup. The party meta will be PLD/PLD, NIN/NIN/NIN/BLM, and AST/SCH
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> Everybody crying about fuckups
> meanwhile drg gets potency buffs across the board
> plus tier 2 botd
> plus using geirskogul twice as much cause lol fuck everyone else
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Is it possible to finish my relic by the time SB hits? I'm on the singing clusters step and that'll be done on Tuesday.
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>>379075954

>Best tank glamours
>now people actually want to use them too

REEEEEEEEE YOSHI IT'S NOT FAIR
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>>379067445
hows BRD shaping up to be might come back if there as fun as they look in SB
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>>379076431
Honestly it's better than the braindead "spam fire until you lose MP then use blizzard" gameplay they had.
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>>379076675
I'zmiziya Shikhu and he does move of place during events tho.
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>>379076613
Someone crunched the numbers in the balance discord. You want them in sword oath and you want them using intervention.
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>>379076636
vermillion
red
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>>379075913
>calls cats dumb
>can't even type
Seriously lmeowing at your life right meow.
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>>379076794
yeah easy
youll have to kill yourself grinding A1S though
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>>379076794
easily, especially if you spam a1s with bonus for light step
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>>379076373
Would you pay an extra 1 gil to sell an item two months faster? Of course you would, it's an extreme example but it shows you'd pay for convienence and everyone has a line somewhere
>>379076457
>but muh market
We're talking a small amount. If you're at the point where your supply is a threat to competition then that's how a market is dictated. Nobody is following your made up rules, especially large suppliers and suffering a profit loss as a result.

Does nobody teach basic business principles in highschool anymore? The free market is dictated by the market, it's SE's job to step in of that becomes a problem
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i'm gay and i play a catgirl
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>>379076636
Probably taken from Vermillion, to say it's a Red version of that magic.
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>>379076794
You could finish the cluster step today, and the you'll need a bit more lore or Company seals for the next step, and it depends if AS1 has the light bonus or not. If it does you could finish that step in a day.
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>>379076794
Just so you know the second dungeon in the game has i270 gear so it'll be irrelevant really fast.
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>>379076338
More like SAM is going to launch completely garbage and then fade into obscurity once savage comes out.
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Anyone know the ilvl of gear that you'll be able to purchase from vendors at the start of Stormblood?
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>>379076518
Laughing at WHM got boring so now they're looking for the next "shit meme" job to laugh at.
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>>379076526

I already use it as an emergency AoE avoider
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>>379076819
So you were one of those BLMs casting Blizzard on Dreadknights and Conflags.
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>>379076867
What's Intervension? Does someone have an image of the new stuff?
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>>379077014
255
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Repeat after me: Meta only matters if I'm in the top 5%.

Meta only matters if I'm in the top 5%

It doesn't matter what the most optimized job is when you party up with a bunch of shitters who keep dying and taking unnecessary hits.
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>>379076918
I'm not gay and I play a catgirl
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>>379077014

165 most likely
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>>379077029
how do you deal with the slow ass cursor
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>>379076613
>>379076867
Give me a tl;dr.
Why should PLD OT instead of getting those Shield Swipe procs, and who should MT in their place?
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>we are now at a point where normal wildlife outside of Doma are more powerful than Ifrit
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Do we know anything about what the ilevel of SB starting gear will be?
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>>379077119
wanna be pals?
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>>379077107
thank god someone isn't retarded
it doesn't matter what your party comp is outside of specific situations like needing a ranged/caster lb sometimes unless you're worried about world firsts, speed clears or fflogs performance stuff
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>>379077121

*265
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when are they going to put in the ivalice 24man?
4.1?
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>>379077068
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLz9iQVOtDq1lTekI7mbRxYBQCj32RlkrL

or

https://www.bluegartr.com/threads/130112-JP-Media-Translations-Stormblood-Job-Role-Changes-(Famitsu-Dengeki-etc.)

The japanese tooltips are more accurate.
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Here we see Dragoon asking his master if he could leave the cuckshed and do dps
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>>379077107
It matters, just not as much as everyone says. A retard on a meta job in any content is still preferable to a non meta job
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>>379076518
shit tackle mechanic cooldown thing added
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>>379076920
>>379076870
Knowing Koji, it probably refers to ver- as in the Latin prefix meaning true, so true Holy, true Fire. Vermillion doesn't really make sense as a prefix.
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>>379076816
loses cast times, has insane dps and even more utility, on top of raising crit with reworked songs and all damage with foe
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>>379076451
>>379076626
The heat mechanic is a huge liability and a downgrade from the current mch gameplay of simply syncing wildfire to cooldowns and hitting them in the right order.

Now you will have to sync wildfire to hitting 100 heat which is not a trivial task and requires a lot of counting GCDs backwards - not even getting into situations where they may be no targets and thus not enough gcds to let you hit 100 at the same time you want to wildfire.

There are also a lot of ass backward design decisions like making ammo freeze your heat gain for that weaponskill, which is actually a bad thing instead of a good thing.
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>>379076894
You realize businesses all the time get together and have meetings to make sure undercutting doesn't go too far right? They have thresholds where they agree upon prices for a certain good won't go below so that they all make profit without one person forcing them to devalue it and making the product no longer worth producing. This is a problem in XIV since theres infinite resources and no effort in making or selling a product.
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>>379077165
Vertical progression is cancer.
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>>379077165
Some immersion breaking stuff right there. Actually even HW stuff took longer to kill than story mode ifrit
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>>379077250
I don't understand this.
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>>379077184
>Do we know anything about what the ilevel of SB starting gear will be?
It'll be what you're wearing when you start it?
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>>379076939
Yeah I know I can, Im just super burnt out on lore farming.

>>379076960
Mostly doing it to skip steps toward the new relic.
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>>379070414
>mfw
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>>379077161
>instead
you want PLD for both jobs now
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>>379077165
Blame Yoshi for capping monster levels by the current max level instead of 99.
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>>379077161
DRK are the best MT now
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>>379077149

I use a controller, you can predetermine the distance of how far you need to get away before hand

then when you're ready to evade just hit L2 + X
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the only real good thing to come of all this is the "katanas are epic" discussions that will inevitably be born in the coming months despite japans revolutionary dumpster fire method of using iron sand and 16shittilion times folding it.

god speed anons.
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>>379077165
I always saw levels in RPGs, especially MMOs as a mostly gameplay mechanic and separated it from lore.

Also, Othard has a more hostile environment than Eorzea.
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>>379077252
What's their names on the JP version?
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I wonder where we can get proper leg animations so we don't fucking slide whenever we run away from aoes while maximizing dps/heals.
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>>379076791

Feels good to be DRG
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>>379077263
welp that settles it see you guys on release
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>>379077381
>need to grit for blood price
Are you sure about that?
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>>379076816
They are gonna be GOAT, and in addition to what the other guy told you, they now have one of the fastest openers in the game which is a very nice quality of life thing in a meta where some jobs like drg and rdm don't even hit their stride until 1 minute into the fight or something.
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>>379077324
I meant more like the starting quest gear.
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>>379077246
>A retard on a meta job in any content is still preferable to a non meta job

You haven't seen bad DRK and NINs, I see.
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>>379077281
You realize FF is a free market whereas no first world countries have a free market and comparing the two is pointless?

Companies would undercut hard all day long and likely switch to price fixing once it's profitable for nobody if government imposes regulations didn't exist.
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>>379077107
Wrong. Meta helps every single group clear faster and safer. Maybe not the meta of BRD+MCH, but DRK+WAR and AST+SCH were objectively much better no matter what skill level your group was.
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>>379077324
I think hes asking roughly what the minimum ilvl required to realistically start it will be. Probably 230 or 250. Considering the AF gear you get at 70 is only 290, the gear you get from quests will probably only start at around those levels.
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>>379077381
They literally removed everything that made them the best MT
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>>379077475
When you say fastest openers could you elaborate? Not him but I like using a lot of buttons regularly and don't want that to change
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Are we getting any new classes or races as Stormblood goes on ? Dancer as a healer? Rune Fencer for tank?
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>>379076878
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>>379077593
Grit is still on demand unlike with war and paladin
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What's the most reddit job?
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>>379077534
Government imposed regulations are exactly why the markets don't crash. Or at least not every day like what would happen in a no rules situation like in XIV.
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>>379077474
Their fell cleave does full damage in Grit and they only lose 1200 MP for switching to Grit VS half their resource bar
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>>379077107
This is true, but WHM is still looking shit meta or no. The Lily and Confession systems are utterly worthless -- not only do they promote playing WHM in a completely unfun way that nobody will do unless everything hits like a truck in SB, the proc rates are laughably low given what they do. It honestly feels like they went out of their way to make the job play worse. Only good skill is Thin Ait. t. WHM as main healer
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>>379077692

red mage m' lady
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>/v/ pretends that tanks never ever use tank stance even during progression

You been watching too many Xeno videos boyos
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>>379077707
>Sheltron before entering Shield Oath
whoa
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>>379077576
If you are shit at the meta jobs it won't help you one bit. If you don't optimize the meta jobs lose the reason why they are meta, so no, you're wrong.
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>>379077661
>Dancer as a healer?
I hate this meme.
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>>379077534
Imposed*
>>379077703
My point is getting mad at people for trying to make a profit on an MMO economy is retarded. If certain practices are too detrimental to the economy that's SE's job to deal with as everybody else is just playing the game rather than writing the rules
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>>379077779
Sheltron is shit in comparison to Intervention
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>>379077689
As long as Defiance is still off gcd it'll be the best stance to quickly swap to. Gauge loss can easily be reduced by decent players.
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>>379077887
>Uses bar so it doesn't get 50% cut
>Welp no 50% bar to use IB why did you switch?
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>>379077848
Im not getting mad at you for making a profit. Im getting mad at you because you're hurting your own profits and others by making a poor business decision to sell quick and low.
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>>379077250
>>379077315
the numbers in the english tooltip are wrong
it's 30% damage up, 15% speed down
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>>379077759
The only time I ever don't use tank stance is if i'm off tanking. I don't know if leveling though the game now is bad but it never feels like the healers can never keep up if i'm not.
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>>379077953
You dont need IB to survive a tankbuster, only Defiance and another random self or party cooldown.
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>>379077958
I wasn't the original guy who was trying to undercut. I'm saying everybody places their own value on convenience, if he's fine with the money he's losing then I don't see the problem.
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>>379077759
But ive watched a lot of realm first videos and their MTs usually spend like 80% of fights outside of stance.
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>>379077165
How many Raditz's is Ifrit worth?
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>>379078085
Or you could take a DRK who has better magic mitigation (the one that matters) and can switch with more ease?
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>>379077450
I can't moonrune but they were translated as Val[spell names], so I'm assuming it's just a weebification of ver + names of existing WHM/BLM spells.
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>>379069186
Yes, and they're actually a ton better.
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DPS
THE
FUCKING
NAIL
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>379077613
I mean that they could, if they wanted, have finished their opener by the 5th GCD in the fight - at the same point machinist hasnt even gotten to wildfire yet. If they end up being too fast for the raid and having to slow down a little, that will only be a good thing for them as itll give them more time to fish for pitch perfect stacks and refulgent arrow procs to barrage.

And I'd say bard still have a healthy amount of ogcds to weave. Even though they gutted these on almost every job, the bloodletter/pitch perfect mechanic will mean you'll always have things to press if you liked that gameplay.
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>>379068943
>ala mhigo
>be long compared to other areas

kek
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>>379077860
>~24% TB mitigation that restores your mana
>10% 6 second cooldown that can be boosted to 20% or 30% once every few minutes
I dunno kev.
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>>379077229
>not taking DRG for BL and that new butt buddy damage buff
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>>379078220
NOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T MAKE ME DO MECHANICS. I WANT TO DPS ONLY I'M GOOD AT IT GIVE ME MORE TARGET DUMMY BOSSES
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>>379078220
>Almost 4 years and it still happens
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>>379077707
>Their fell cleave does full damage in Grit
Bloodspiller in Grit is effectively 380 potency, Inner Beast is 350 potency. Sure, WAR loses some dps from using IB over FC, but it's not as huge as you seem to think.
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>>379078275
I forgot that Sheltron also gives you 150 potency attack.
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>>379078262
Good, even if it's just a pre-planned rotation and playing whack a mole with procs I still find it infinitely preferable to 1-1-1-2-1-1 rotations
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How about the following changes:

>You can no longer undercut an item on the marketboard unless its by at least 1% of the total value
>You cannot take an item off the board for 24 hours once placed. You get one exception per day in case of a typo on the price.
>Taking an item off the board incurs the tax of the sale.
>Items that are purchasable by NPCs cannot be sold for more than they cost from the NPC

Fixed the market board.
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>>379078220
Anyone else remember when people used to instant leave in Ifrit HM because you were fucked if you didn't have a caster to LB3 the nails ? That was fun.
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>>379078458
Hang yourself retard.
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>>379078268
Gyr Abania and Othard have 4 zones each (5 for Othard if you count the new housing).
I think they'll see equal use throughout the story, but Ala Mhigo won't be liberated immediately at 4.0 I think, but on the next patches.
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>>379074595
Lol WAR best tank. Check this guy out.
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>>379078458
get out of here you fucking commie
go seize the means of production
viva la capitalism
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Does RDM get to keep the mana values out of combat and between areas? It would be interesting going into a raid prepped beforehand with 100/100 mana opener.
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>>379078458
I actually agree as somebody who supports free markets in MMOs, undercutting is fine but charging 0.0001% less to have your item appear first is more of a tedious pissing contest than anything
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>>379078458

fuck off commie

smart use of the marketboard will reward your accordingly, learn to appreciate the free market
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>>379078489
I remember when this game was fun.
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>>379078536
>>379078582
Exploiters of the working class people detected
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>finally finish HW and after story
>want to level another class
>Can just wait for a few weeks to buy a jump potion

Well, there goes my motivation. Guess I can level crafting the rest of the way and pimp out my apartment.
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>>379077953
Since you're locked into Defiance for 4 gcds anyway, you have 3 to spend on a Path combo before IB. If you're at 40 gauge you'll only lose 20, and can build up an extra 30 easily with Maim>Path.
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>>379078635
Out of combat, probably.
But between areas/after wipe, I doubt it.
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>>379077265

>Now you will have to sync wildfire to hitting 100 heat which is not a trivial task and requires a lot of counting GCDs backwards

From what we've seen this doesn't look like it'll be an issue, I mean you get the flamethrower which builds heat like crazy.

>not even getting into situations where they may be no targets and thus not enough gcds to let you hit 100 at the same time you want to wildfire

this doesn't make to much sense to me you need to give me an example of this happening, the only time I can see this being a problem is when the boss is invuln.

As of right now I don't think we know enough about how things work to really say it's going to be broken.
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>>379076791
Except Gierskogul is now 30s cooldown out of life of the dragon, so you'll be using it less.
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>>379078635
You get to keep your mana between fights in dungeons, but we can't really tell if that's the case between instances yet. I doubt it though.
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>>379078674
By smart use you mean its dominated by neets who can afford to literally sit at it all day and undercut by 1 gil.
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>>379078582
>MMO economies
>Capitalistic
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>>379078691
>we will tell you when, where, how, and how much that we will permit you to sell for.
good goyim
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>>379078395
>Bloodspiller in Grit is effectively 380 potency
Could you clarify what you meant by this so I can know whether to agree with you or call you a retard?
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>>379071657
>Recommended class for a dummy who is happy just doing DPs by spamming the same thing over and over?

Black Mage.
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>>379078007
Still makes no sense at all.
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can I ask a dumb question

are DPS queues for dungeons really that bad

I mostly solo but dungeons are my jam and I really like the look of MCH

don't want to sit in queue for 30m to do one every time though
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>>379078220
>Boss that needs mechanics to survive
>DPS ignores them and wipe
>Boss has mechanics that can be ignored by focusing the boss
>DPS actually do mechanics
Every fucking time
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>>379071657
Black mage, clearly. It's the job that uses the least amount of skills/spells in their rotation. The difficulty in playing it comes from knowing when to stop casting to move.
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>>379071657
PLD/DRK/NIN/BLM/WHM
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>>379071657

Pally and White/Black mage
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>>379078808
Out of Grit it's 380 potency. In Grit it's 475*0.8=380 potency.
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>>379078808
The only winning move is not to play.
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>>379070414
>huh, wonder if the game even acknowledges if I'm part of his army
>LIEUTENANT!

FUCK YEAH COMMANDER! LET'S FIGHT!
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>>379078906
Not really no.
But once stormblood comes out they will be since the only new jobs are DPS.
Itll balance out again eventually.
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>>379079031
That's not how potency works. But It is effectively equal to out of grit damage without DA, yes.
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>>379078826
You don't have blood for blood anymore so you use this instead. I guess.
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>>379078742
You want to use flamethrower after wildfire instead, because its a gain when used that way to get out of your under-50 heat hell as fast as possible.

For overheating when entering wildfire, you instead have to just get to 100 manually with normal gcd heat gain, and that requires you to do a lot of counting in your head so that you hit 100 at the same time you intend to wildfire. It's hideously unfun and subject to there being targets on screen for you to hit.
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Need 3 DPS people to queue for eyes of the creator on Chaos.
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>>379078906
what do you think when there are 80 thousand dps jobs with more on the way and 6 tanks and healers combined?
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>>379068314
2 second cooldown, so it's faster/.
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>>379078906
According to SE people level their mains through new content before playing new jobs so it shouldn't be too bad
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>>379078906
They're fine right now, maybe around 10 mn for lvl 60 dungeons. However that'll change when SB comes out, as everyone will be playing RDM and SAM for a while.
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>>379079286
savage, forgot to mention
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>It's a 'pull one pack at a time' ARF run
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>>379071159

It is a nice coat.
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>>379067739
>>379068314
What's the potency gain on both?
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>>379079178
When are we going to get a gunblade class?
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>>379079039
>Hullbreaker HM
>everyone salutes you if you're Maelstrom
how can snakebabbys even compete
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>>379079339
>>379079358
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>>379079379
Just bite the bullet and leave.
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>>379078778
>Thinking freedom means freedom to do anything you want with no consequences or restrictions at all
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>>379079379
>yfw Stormblood dungeons go back to the tried and true "let's put a gate between every pull so you respect the content"
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>>379079436
This. I just leave now when I see shit not going right.
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>>379079413
Pretty much confirmed for garlemald expac in 5.0
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>>379079413
Never, because that's Magitek territory.
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>>379079474
that is kinda the point on why they nerfed aoe damage so much across the board
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>>379079037
>Jin-Roh

how does it feel to have good taste
>>
Crossbow tank when?
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>>379079365
Put up a party finder and I'll help you out
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>>379079474
Why else would they be nerfing AoE?
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>>379079031
Are you forgetting Darkside cancels it out?
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>>379079436
It's fine I'll just shitpost for half an hour while casually throwing 1 heal on the tank every 30 seconds.
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>>379079474
>what they fucking did to bane
Preese undahstandu
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>>379078458
>Not exploiting low prices to sell high with
fucking red
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>>379079550
Here you go: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerberos_saga
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>>379079474
RESPECT
>>
I HATE CATBOYS
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>>379079502
Well then sign me up for the fucking Garland army or whatever. Let's take over the world. I don't give a fuck.
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>>379079575
You mean an 8man PF or private so we queue as 2?
I'm just bored and want to see how DF Savages will go.
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Does WAR stack VIT or STR for attribute allocation?
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>>379079540
You act like people won't pull big regardless if the dungeon itself allows it.
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>>379079474
THE
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>>379078776
In a game where there is technically infinite money and no life necessities, people still whine. It's hilarious.
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>>379079629
The absolute worst. The lowest of the low scum.

Male Au Ra's might be giant edgelords
Lalas might be little cunts
But noting is worse than a male c@
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>>379079670
VIT right now. But that'll be gone come 4.0 anyway.
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>>379079474
Thats good. JP players have faster clear times than NA/EU and they do smaller pulls.
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>>379079664
>df savage
Eeeeeewww
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>>379079410
+140 potency for both.
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>>379079719
a good male cat is the rarest thing ever in this game.
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>>379079782
What's the fucking reason not to DA the Syphon then.
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>>379079719
This. Catboys should be lined up and shot.
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>>379079629
rude
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>tfw all Au Ra as superior to catboys
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>>379079275

It doesn't matter if you use flamethrower before or after wildfire, you get an ability that gets you to 50 heat right off the bat.

I think you're overblowing the counting thing man it's not going to be that hard.
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>>379079651
>WoL gets tired of all the shitty leaders asking them to do their work
>goes and sign up for the imperial army
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http://www.strawpoll.me/13104822/r
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>>379079719
I'd actually like catboys if they more manly and had feline penises.

As it stands, I'll stick to Au Ra.
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>>379079917
that's...that's not what I posted.
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>>379079418
I believe they also call you by your rank too.
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>I actually considered being a catboi when I first started playing
Thank god I realized I didn't like it and went male elezen.
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>>379079954
Reddit has shit taste.
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>>379079379
But it was my first time tanking!
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>>379079952
You just wrote my next fanfic.
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>>379079954
>PLD that high
fucking seasonal fags
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>>379079580
Out of Grit: 380*1.2=456 potency
IB Grit: 475*1.2*0.8=456 potency
Bloodspiller doesn't become magically stronger because of Grit, it's literally just unaffected by Grit. In the end it's just a 380 potency GCD which is a lot weaker than FC out of tank stance and slightly stronger than IB in tank stance.
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>>379080032
>no bonus

BULLSHIT
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>>379080000
Oh my :3c
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>>379079954
how the fuck is ast the highest non SB job?
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>>379079952
>>379080038
id read it
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>>379079919
Barrel stablizer is 2min cd to wildfire's 1min, you can't plan on having it on hand for every wildfire.

Anyway, you'll see soon enough, it's not like I'm trying to convince you now or something - the gameplay will speak for itself, I'm just offering an educated assessment.
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>>379076431
>Flexibility
>Implying Fire III -> Fire -> Low on MP -> Blizzard III -> repeat (while throwing in thundercloud procs) was """flexible"""
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>>379079952
honestly wouldn't be too unexpected at this point, every cutscene in the last two patches or so the WoL just looks so tired of everyone's shit.
That look of absolute confusion when Aymeric asks you what would YOU want to do while having dinner with him was just sad.
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>>379079954
Get fucked MCH.
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>>379079952
>eventually runs the whole army because emperor is fucking stupid
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>>379080059
PLD is naturally popular because they have much better "aesthetics" compared to other tanks
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>>379080095
>run first time as dps
>do it again as tank
what's the problem?
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>>379080060
>Darkside +20% damage

Hmmm....
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>>379080197
>Get fucked MCH.
Ya'll just jealous of our flamethrower
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>>379079835
MP gain isn't based on damage, Blackest Night+Bloodspiller will give you 380 potency (475 on grit) and have the same MP+GCD cost of DA+SS, SE's HP drain is based on damage (while on grit).
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>>379079954
>MCH the lowest

Out of all the established jobs I thought MCH came out looking the coolest for SB. All those new skills look sick. I'm definitely going to give MCH a whirl in SB.
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>>379080252
No problem at all my man :^)
>Leave duty
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>>379080218
Figures Reddit would like the white knight aesthetic
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>join A9S via DF
>everyone leaves in 1 minute
simply ebin
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>>379080348
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>>379080330
Stop trying so hard to fit in
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>>379079952
>signs up for the Imperial Army
>first thing they do is ask you to do their work
>end up becoming a slave to the Imperial Army
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>>379080264
What about it? You'll notice I included it in the maths.
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>>379079625
hory fuck

i have so much shit to buy from this franchise now

you have done wrong to my wallet, anon
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>>379080126

>Barrel stablizer is 2min cd to wildfire's 1min, you can't plan on having it on hand for every wildfire.

That already makes it simialr to what we have now with even wildfires being weak and odd ones being full blast.

You may be right about some things, but I'll wait till the game comes out. I'm more concerned about the fact that all MCH brings to the table now is Damage and Hypercharge, while bard brings way more to the party.
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>>379080459
>Get tired of this
>Join the Ascians
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Will nocturnal now be better than diurnal for dungeons?
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