> Switch Online will be a paid service > /v/ nerdrages

$20 per year is admittedly better than the alternatives but if this ends up like Sony where the service is the same and or worse when you have to pay for it they fucked up.

>putting a space between the meme arrows and the green meme text
>capitalizing the first letter of the green meme texts as if they were sentences
>my-first-day-on-4chan.txt

>>379066250
>only $20 for roms and their same shit online
No, that's robbery and people accepting this are helpful idiots.

>>379066250
You supposedly are paying for better online servers, but knowing Nintendo you can bet your asses you're getting the same shitty servers
You're going to basically be paying 20 dollars for literally nothing
Enjoy!

>>379066380
> Being this fucking triggered about trivial shit
> Muh secret club

$20 isnt shit but name literally and NES game worth playing if you don't already have nostalgia for it.
There's none.

SNES has some good shit, but beep boop ancient mayan ass NES is just a waste of hard drive space.

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gaming will reborn again when mario die...

>>379066719
Hello faggot
>>>/lgbt/

Don't forget you need to pay an extra $400 for a smart phone and the data plan to do voice chat online

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>>379066528
>being retarded
>doubling down

>>379066594
underage faggot detected

If ice hockey with online multiplayer doesn't give you a hype boner you can GTFO

>>379066250
>> Free retro game access
that sounds dope but why make a thread without any source?

>$20
>Free

>nintendo takes away that free game after a month

Atleast xbox lets me keep the games.

>>379066594
The original Zelda and Metroid games are still good.

Not to mention the Super Mario games, all of which are timelessly great.

>>379066250
>> Free retro game access
I don't think retarded OP understands that redownloading Super Mario Bros. after the average consumer has already played it on their computer, phones, gameboy, gameboy advance, gamecube, wii, wii u, ouya, apple tv, firestick, and bootleg gaming consoles isn't all that enticing.

>>379067090
You know they're adding local multiplayer and netplay to all the multiplayer titles, right?

>>379066765
try $75 fag

>>379066250
>> Only $20 per year
STILL 20 BUCKS OVER THE PRICE IT SHOULD BE

40 BUCKS LESS THAN THE OTHER ONES BUT STILL TOO EXPENSIVE

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>>379067170

>>379067048
They changed it so now you can keep it until you stop paying for the subscription

It's still ass though. Will never replace the Virtual Console.

>>379067293
No idea what that is, but judging from the context of the reply I'm guessing it's some primitive fanmade program to run older games in shitty, buggy online modes. Am I right?

>>379067048
>>379067298
It's now "ongoing access" to "a library of classic titles", not 1 per month.

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>online service has less features than even xbox live from the year 2001
>nintendies thank nintendo for the privilege of paying for it
>go around preaching their mario religion saying how great it is just because it includes an old rom they already bought from nintendo twice

YOU CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP

>>379066765
>data plan
>implying your smartphone isn't on wifi when you're home
What a retarded argument, jesus

>>379067463
>go around preaching their mario religion saying how great it is just because it includes an old rom they already bought from nintendo twice
You haven't heard about NESflix?

>>379066250
But from the looks of it, there's only 3 games on the Switch right now that use online anyway. Mario Kart 8, Splatoon 2, and ARMS. Monster Hunter is coming down the road but I still don't think a grand total of 4 games is good enough to charge for online multiplayer. It's just not.

>>379067763
Which is why they're keeping it free until next year. They need some online games before they can charge for them.

There's a few more though. From the ones I own, PPT and USFII also have online.

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>>379067413
>fanmade program
Only thing primitive here is your brain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaillera
Nintendyourself

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Look at all these blacklisted 3DS pirates here, they're getting shivered in the timbers

>>379067961
Not him, but I've used Kaillera. There's a world of difference between having to find opponents on IRC and walk them through installation and port forwarding to try to get all that shit working, and an official service integrated with matchmaking and a friend list. I would be willing to shell out a little for officially supported netplay.

>>379067869
Minecraft, Fast RMX also

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>>379066380
>OP didn't use the oldfag-approved greentext template
>implying that shit ever mattered
>yfw

>>379066250
>> Free retro game access
i'm gonna need sauce on that

People are really complaining about 20 dollars a year? Isn't that less than 10 cents a day. I waste more than that on junk food.

>>379068589
Welcome to /v/, where cynicism and forced hate of everthing ever is the norm

>>379068508
http://ca.ign.com/articles/2017/06/03/nintendo-switch-classic-game-selection-not-replacing-virtual-console
They're debuting a service with Nintendo Online called "Classic Games Selection". You get "ongoing access" to "a library of classic titles".
We don't know any more details yet, like how many there are or whether they'll change month to month. This is backtracking on their previous promise to give you one NES game per month.

>>379068863
i hope it's better than just a fucking NES game

at least snes for fuck sakes

>>379069010
The Nintendo rep said it will start out as a selection of NES games, and adding SNES titles is under consideration.

this actually turned out much better than expected

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>>379066250
>joining the kike squad holding basic online functionality hostage behind the same paywall as the game rentals, etc
>games offered by Nintendo are ancient ROMs that if you gave a shit about them you'd just emulate anyway, don't even get to "keep" them like Sony/M$ offers
>online functionality like groups, voice chat, etc outsourced to your PHONE, as in you effectively just call people on your phone but Nintendo wants to charge you a premium for that
>Nintendo's "excellent" reputation for online service

Sony can eat a bag of dicks and Microsoft can drown in a flood of shit-laced semen for their faggot asses introducing this bullshit in the first place, but while Nintendo's offering is cheaper from an absolute dollar perspective it also offers effectively nothing for it, making it the most expensive of the bunch.

It's Okay When Nintendo Does It!

>>379070146
>don't even get to "keep" them like Sony/M$ offers
PS+ games have always disappeared after you unsub, and Live Gold stopped letting you keep their games.
Get used to getting jewed. As soon as they know people are willing to pay, they start stripping away pro-customer services and features.

>>379069078
I hope they add n64 games down the road
>online smash bros 64, f-zero x, pokemon stadium and starfox 64

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>>379070146
>hurr they're just ancient roms
That's like saying Steam is just selling roms you could pirate anyways so who cares.

>but nintendo's servers!
They're fine at the moment. Online play has worked pretty well since the Switch released.

Retarded argument discarded.

>>379066443

> roms

Nintendo fans love buying literally the same games for every new platform, and I do mean 20 year old games, not new versions.

>>379066250
>> Free retro game access
Let's wait to see if they'll actually have a good selection first.
The first 2 years of the Wii U VC were absolute garbage.

>>379066250
It isn't free if you're paying for it, son.
There is no reason for nintendo to charge for online, only reason they are doing it is because it's basically free money.
The service won't be better and you will still be treated like shit by nintendo.

>It's $1.50 a month
I don't understand how you can be well off enough to buy a $300 gaming system and too poor to buy a cup of coffee.

>>379071016
It's more about the principle around the issue. Nintendo's only doing this because the other two are. They saw they could get free money for doing jack shit.
Why are you happy to pay to use your internet connection anyway? A service you already pay for.

>>379071309
>Why are you happy to pay to use your internet connection anyway? A service you already pay for.
I imagine because the game company is paying for dedicated servers, which is an ongoing expense. I never got the "paying to use your own internet" argument. Internet is a two-way thing, there needs to be something on the other side to connect to, and that's what they want you to pay for.

Still, servers are pretty cheap and they could be covered by retail sales. I bet it's more of a motivation to keep them running instead of shutting it all down 2 years in once they've grubbed all the cash like some companies do.

>>379066450
>online servers
>implying companies actually have dedicated servers
>and it's not a big scam w/ peer-to-peer connections

>>379071626
If nintendo is following their competitors then we know the servers will be shit anyway.
It's all speculation really, but I personally doubt that their service will improve any from wii u days. As a fan I'm disappointed that nintendo are being this greedy. I always knew they were jews but this seems like a slap in the face more than anything else.

>>379071815
Technically even P2P games run a basic matchmaking server. I think Nintendo's only games with dedicated servers so far are Splatoon, Spla2n, and ARMS. They work pretty well though.

>>379071925
I had a flawless experience with the ARMS online. If they can bring systems like that to their other titles I'd be stoked.
Mario Kart 8's P2P online is ludicrously bad though.

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>>379066380
>having severe non-functional autism to get triggered by something so stupid.

It's literally PS Plus, but cheaper. Why is this bad?

>>379066250
>have to have compatible smart phone for app
>expecting good quality through an external phone app
>"free" access to list of VC games everyone already had or would never drop a penny on
>people somehow blown the fuck out by Nintendo damage controlling as hard as Xbone 24 hour online checks
>still so incompetent with online services that they've had to delay it til next year

Yeah, I'm not seeing anything getting BTFO here besides Nintendo themselves, since they had to realize that the competition has actual reasons to charge their prices that people willingly hand over.

Call me when they start offering first party games and stuff like Bomberman R / Puyo Tetris like the free PSN+ or Xbox Gold games

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>>379066250
>>379066250
>paying $20 for this

>>379067983
What does the 3ds ban have to do with any of this?

>>379072436
>>379072539
It's really better to think of it as no voice chat. A party chat app on a phone isn't a feature, we always have equivalent services. Like Wii U and Wii before it, Switch has no voice chat. If that's a dealbreaker for you, don't buy one.

>>379072436
>still so incompetent with online services that they've had to delay it til next year
Are people literally complaining that Nintendo extended the free period
So they're greedy if they charge, and incompetent if they don't charge. I'm glad we have such a balanced perspective on this.

>>379072410
>PS+ is a rip off
>PS+ is bad
>scam is a bit cheaper
>not a rip off anymore

kek
not so inteligent anons in here

>>379073534
Being a third of the price really can determine whether something is a "ripoff", you know.

>pay money
>"""free""" retro game access
What did he mean by this?

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>>379066443
Have you forgotten how many people turn to eBay daily?

>>379066765
>data plan
>VC is a gimmick anyway

>paying for a platform that can only play games
>paying extra for the games since they are more expensive than on pc and don't drop in price as fast
>having to pay extra AGAIN to play the multiplayer mode of the games you already paid for

do you guys have a cuckold fetish or something

>>379072980
The fees don't bother me, but I want the "improvements" they were supposed to offer for Splat2 and Kart 8 Deluxe, the latter still having hiccups now and then.

>service and full details are not even out
>/v/gers goes around shitting as if everything were on stone
why is /v/ so insecure when it comes to Nintendo??

>>379066250
>""""free"""" retro game access

>>379074042
I'm not going to defend MK8D, that thing still D/C's me in like 25% of matches. But Splatoon 1 and ARMS had really stable online. I think those are their only games so far with real dedicated servers.

>>379073647
>paying for being allowed to play peer-to-peer games using your connection for hosting
>not totally a scam
>making it cheaper makes it not a scam anymore

hello? McFly, anyone home?

you are literally forced to pay to be ALLOWED to play the full price games that you already paid for.

Wii U had Miiverse, which actually required tons of server and that was "free" (because you bought the fucking games). There is no Miiverse on the Scratch.

>>379074156
Miiverse was retard facebook with a monochrome paint tool. I really don't miss it, and if was part of their paid package, I wouldn't consider it as adding to the value of the service.

I'm not sure why you guys think Nintendo is still going to have the same shitty online as always? It almost definitely won't be as good as the competitors' but they need the money to support online capabilities. Why would you expect a decent, comprehensive online service to be free? XBL has charged for over a decade. Nobody cares. PSN started charging because they could no longer support their online for free. No shit. Same thing with Nintendo. Why do you think their online has sucked all this time? Because they have to fit it somewhere in their budget. This way they have more money to actually focus on online

The retro game access is just a bonus to sweeten the deal and make more of you retards more inclined to pay. I'm going to pay anyway because I want to kick some ass on ARMS

>>379074343
the point is you dumb-head, that it would have made more sense to charge for online on Wii U, because Miiverse needed actual servers and lots of storage.

>>379074343
>Miiverse was retard facebook
>implying that facebook is not already for retards
kek

>>379074960
From a purely technical standpoint, perhaps. From a business perspective, it would have driven people away from an already doomed platform and generated negligible revenue due to the disastrously small userbase.

>>379075054
Of course facebook is for retards, but Miiverse was like a cross section of the most underaged, autistic facebook users.

>>379071626
>I imagine because the game company is paying for dedicated servers

Isn't the Nintendo Network P2P?

>>379075269
Most games are. ARMS and Splatoon have dedicated servers, though. You can really tell the difference compared to something like MK8D, which only uses a matchmaking server and an anti-cheat bot.

>>379066250
>Free* retro game access
>*With paid subscription

>>379071626
>I imagine because the game company is paying for dedicated servers, which is an ongoing expense.

>buy Counter-Strike
>play it for ages despite dedicated servers
>no monthly fee
>be able to buy your own dedicated server for full control

>buy console games
>have to pay to be allowed to play via peer-to-peer networking
>try to find excuses, because you are that retarded

>>379066380
>Muh meemtext!
>Reeee

>>379075269
on a technical lvl there should not be a reason for Companies to charge for online

Online only became was is today cause Xbot and later Sonygers welcomed it with open arms

>b-but its only 60$ a year
>You are too poor!!!
>T-The free shovelware and indie trash no body touches makes up for it!!!

im not entierly happy with having to Pay on Nintendo now, but at least is the lesser evil.
anyway my current set up is only Switch and PC

>>379075465
pretty sure that Splatoon on Wii U is P2P.

>>379066765
Who doesn't have a phone?

>>379066250
> Only $20 per year
> Free retro game access
You can do this on PC without paying $20

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>>379075565
Did you really just praise Valve's generosity for running "free" CS servers?
Have you any idea how much they take people for in CS?

>>379066250
It's almost like they realized that what they were going to ask was a shitty deal for the consumer, and everyone told them so, so they delayed it to next year and promised it would be something much easier to swallow

>>379067413
>>379068223
Good thing Retroarch recently stepped up its netplay game with matchmaking/lobbies.

Still not worth paying Nintendo.

>>379066250
Learn to use greentext properly.

>>379075701
>be Ninten-tard
>try to spin it that requiring a fucking phone for basic online play is not a big deal
>pay mobile data fees even when you are at home
>will also surely be a way better connection than DSL

>>379066380
Autism

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>>379066594
You say that like Nintendo didn't make fucking millions selling out those fucking NES retro console things.

>>379067062
Metroid is literally and objectively a bad game.
Do you like farming for 10 minutes every time you die to fill your energy tanks?
Do you like getting lost because all rooms look alike and there is no map?
Do you like bosses that take forever to kill and spam projectiles, so you have to keep retreating after you shoot them once?

>>379076032
>not having unlimited data

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>>379074864
>Why would you expect a decent, comprehensive online service to be free?

The Wii U's may not have been comprehensive, but it was decent. Once I replaced my faulty modem, I never saw a communication error again, so yeah, I did expect the Switch's to be free. However, since the Switch is incapable of voice chat (on its own), you can't exactly call its paid service "comprehensive". Ultimately, I guess it really is okay when Nintendo does it.

>>379076032
>be retard
>don't realize the switch is a fully portable console
>don't realize everyone has a phone
>don't realize an app is the easiest way to ensure most people can access online chats without putting a toxic environment onto the switch itself, which nintendo clearly wants to avoid

>>379076189
You say that like the Mini NES wasn't just a test in order to confirm that retards would toss money at a subscription fee if they just sweeten the deal with some retro games.

>>379076189
>people are too retarded to use emulators
We already know that. It still doesn't mean it's not a shitty deal.

>>379076560
yeah! why should nintendo have to own up to anything

>>379076560
>fully portable console
don't mind about it being way too large for pockets
so you need to carry it inside a silly bag
>portable
and don't forget the pathetic battery life of 2.5 hours
>portable
>don't realize everyone has a phone
I actually do have a phone, but only at home, fucking millennial dip-shit
And even if I had, I wouldn't fucking want to pay data fees for games that I play at home, because I got proper DSL at home.

And never forget: Nintendo is calling the Scratch their HOME CONSOLE.

>>379066250
>Free retro games for a month
>No voice chat
>Barely anyone will play online

>>379076774
>mini NES has a subscription
>you do not own the games on the mini NES at all
>and Nintendo breaks into your home to delete the games on the Mini, a month after buying it

>>379077180
> Free retro games for a month

Read the news.

paying for online is stupid. the internet is just p2p i think it should be like on the pc with a server.

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>>379077057
>and don't forget the pathetic battery life of 2.5 hours
i can't even sit in front of the tv with a home console for this long. what the fuck are you doing with your life that you could or would even want to play a video game on the go for more than 2.5 hours? grow up, junior.

>>379077431
>your situation applies to everyone else

>>379066250

>They aren't fucking my ass as hard as the other companies
>Drones believe this is an actual defense

>>379077497
>your situation
not being a NEET waste? it should apply to most people, yes. i realize where i am right now, but still.

>>379077431
>Ninten-tard finds another excuse

news-flash: when you are for example use the train and use the Scratch 6 time for 30 minutes, you are out of luck as well with your pathetic "portable" console.

Holy hell, 3DS has pretty bad battery life, but Scratch takes the cake.

>>379077663
Keep those projections coming, they're delicious.

>>379077669
then do what everyone does with their phone and plug it in to an adapter when you get to work. you do have a job, right anon?

>>379077663
You can sit in front of your PC shitposting for over 2.5 hours, but you can't play cideo games for that long.
You are also literally defending Nintendo.
That means your either a child or a manchild.

>>379066380
>"i am le oldfag"
>meme arrows
>this pissed over trivial shit

>>379066250
That is still $20 more than I currently pay for it, and the extra features are worthless, considering that I have emulators.

>>379070259
MS at least lets you keep 360 games

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>>379077431
>what the fuck are you doing with your life that you could or would even want to play a video game on the go for more than 2.5 hours?

I guess the piss-poor battery life isn't an issue for casuals or when your "console" currently has few games worth playing.

>"Free"

>>379067961
>wikipedia

>>379077575
face it sonybro, you got BTFO

don't a majority (not all) of their online titles use straight P2P?
so you're paying for matchmaking?

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>>379077903
i'm not really defending anyone, i don't even own a switch. i've got a ps4 which i don't pay for the online service for. as for shit posting, i'm presenting a valid point. i don't need 2.5 hours. it's only taken about 5 minutes to make you sperg out.

>Nintendo kids shit post all day about payer online
>now they are actually defending it.

This is the highlight of the year

>>379066250
$20 is the absolute most they could've charged for the service when Nintendo platforms get, at most, one game per year with halfway decent online functionality.

Charging $50 per year for a service that pretty much exists entirely for 4 or 5 games would be fucking retarded.

>>379075517
youre paying for access to online play.

>>379066250
Do the retro games at least have online capability?

I can play roms online with other people for free, if I'm paying Nintendo they should at least be able to do that for me.

>>379066765
>implying i wanna talk to anybody

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$20

For fuck all and the ability to play games online (despite already having an internet connection).

On top of the $80, $70 controllers, $90 dock, $50 voice chat dongle, etc...

What the fuck, Nintendo.

>>379076496
Wii U online was okay but the U was a blunder. I think Nintendo really appreciates the kid section of its fanbase and they will never do anything that will drive them away. They need an online service but that will make its online chat extremely toxic, like most things online, and that will damage their main demographic a lot.

I'm not saying Switch online is perfect. I'd rather have a straight up full online functionality but I think this is the best Nintendo is willing to offer at this point while keeping everyone at least sorta happy. I'm just glad I'll be able to play games online without it being as bad as Brawl was back almost a decade ago. Remember how terrible that was? I just wanna have a good time.

>>379077016
What exactly do you want them to own up to? A toxic online environment? Why would they own up to it when that's just a consequence of having an online environment? This is the easiest way for them to achieve a decent online and still keep the toxic part separate.

>>379077057

What I mean is that it's a console that you can fucking take anywhere. Sorry it's too big for your pockets or that you don't want to carry a bag with you. But try playing the new Crash trilogy remake on the go. Try playing Halo 6 or whatever the fuck on the go. You can't. But you'll be able to play the newest Mario game literally anywhere you want. That's the point of the Switch is what I mean.

>milennial dip-shit
It's a new fucking millenium old-timer. Sorry but using a home phone isn't the standard way of communication anymore. You can accept this or not, I don't care. I have my own internet connection, my own Switch, and my own phone that isn't glued to my home so I'll be OK. Maybe it's time for you to stop living in the past.

>>379077497
>your situation applies to everyone else
>literally just dealt with a guy basically saying "i don't have a smartphone so nintendo's fucking dumb"

How is /v/ not the epitome of "my situation applies to everyone else"

>>379067197
t.underage

>>379078719

maybe we should raise the minimum wage

>>379078719
also have to pay at least $200 for a TV if you want to play on one
and don't forget electricity
and a room to keep it in so people don't steal it (door + lock cost extra)

the list goes on, fuck nintendo

>>379078732
not wanting to throw my hard earned money away makes me a underage?

>>379066380
> Why don't you stay triggered and fuck off back to your EchO chamber hugbox you little shit?

>>379078963
that or being a jew

>>379078809
why not raise it to $500 an hour? that way everyone can afford everything

>>379067293
>Constant disconnects and desynching

>>379078884
and food, clothes and shelter, amiibos to cum on, a katana to keep away urban youth, jesus christ nintendo

>>379078963

so you want them to throw their money away instead? pour it into an online service that makes them little to no revenue? very mature way of thinking kid

>>379079278
they did that for 2 generations
Steam does that for 13 years

>>379078809
i'll take inflation for $1000, Alex

>>379079392

why do you think their online sucked for 2 generations? because they put barely any money into it, and then they made no money off of it. now they're attempting to put money into it but that money needs to come from somewhere. maybe the consumer...

steam is focused on being a library for you to get your games. it's more like paying to rent games than paying to play online. also valve basically has a monopoly with steam. they have plenty of money. nintendo doesn't have a monopoly at all. they have direct competitors(sony and microsoft) that they need to plan and play against.

>>379079032
>>379079832

>everything in the world is already becoming more and more expensive
>your wages are staying the same
>complain when your money isn't enough
>refuse the opportunity to fight for more money

good goy

>>379066380
It's okay when nintenbros do it, this is their board. Please don't embarrass them here, this is supposed to be a safe space for Nintendo.

>>379079945
>to rent games
so when do we have to give it back? because renting means you have a date to give it back

>whether or not you can scream profanities to other dude bros and 12 years old kids is the deal breaker for people in /v/ about Online
how pathetic can you guys get?

>>379066719
Hello TOEI, pls kill DBS.

>Only Nintendo I.P I play online is Pokemon.
>Will pay $20 a year just for trading

God damn it. I hate being a Pokefag.

>>379066343
I'm hoping that the reason we're waiting for it to be implemented is not just a 'free-trial' period and they're just making it fucking good, before making us pay for it
I'm mainly going to use it for Splatoon 2, but why should I pay for it if it's peer to peer still?

>>379078719
dont forget the Electric bill, and the house. Nintendo is are literaly jews, Playing a switch cost over 2000$ a month!!!

>>379079832
Go home Dobson

>>379066250
>Paying $20 for abandonware
Anon, pls

>>379080391
and food, clothes and shelter, amiibos to cum on, a katana to keep away urban youth, jesus christ nintendo

>>379080246

have you ever taken a book from a library and never returned it? it's the same. valve has the option at any time to trash your account and all your games. you're paying to play, not for keeps.

>>379066765

Poorfag detected. If you don't have a smart phone in 2017 you either live in a third world country or you're an idiot

No one is buying a smart phone just to do voice chat for voice chat on nintendo switch. They already have one because they need it for their daily life

>>379080132
>looking for gibs is """"""""""fighting for more money""""""""""
>not trying to git gud at something to make their situation better and earn more money
fucking libtards when will they learn?

>>379080586
>never returned it? it's the same.
no, because there is a fine for you not bringing the book back to the library
there is no such a thing on steam

>>379080707
not her, but they can't fine you if they can't find you

>>379080794
>>379080794
but steam knows were you are

so when do i have to give my games back and pay a fine?

>>379080794
thanks, hov

>>379076032
Yeah no way you could transmit voice properly with a phone.

>>379077057
So wait, you're 40+ and you don't have a cell phone, and you're sitting on a forum whining about nintendo games? How sad.

>>379080674

i make twice as much as my state's minimum wage. and my income is still shit. i can't imagine what people who are actually AT min wage are going through.

>>379080707
>>379080907

sorry, i shouldn't have said it's the same. my point is that the idea is very similar. but i'm not here to talk about steam anyway. my point is nintendo needs money for online and it's silly to be upset about a subscription service

>>379080381
No, it's late because they rushed the console to market within the last fiscal year (ends March 31st), but none of the features were ready yet.

>>379081067
well i personaly never had problems playing online on nintendo consoles
i expeded a entire day playing street fighter on my 3ds once. not even lag the fucking thing had

>>379081191
wouldn't that primarily use P2P?

>>379078516
>>379077663

good posts anon. keep calling /v/irgins out

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>>379066528
>>379066904
>>379067090
>>379067197
>>379068508
>>379070668
>>379075760
>>379078990
STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>379081191

on consoles or handhelds? because 3ds isn't a console. i've had great times with ds online, even back in the day on ds fat with MKDS and metroid prime hunters. but that's different. i'm pretty sure like >>379081270 said those are peer to peer. i've had terrible times with ds/3ds online too because of this

Ill go hard core cash that every single one in the thread bitching about Nintendo Online for 20$, owns either XBLG or PS+

>>379081186
that too
but that's what I mean
I'm hoping they're planning to use dedicated servers for the games that are coming out this year and not just games coming out 2018 onwards

>>379081740
I decided not to get a PS4 purely because of paid online.

>>379081560

Ignore the frog poster

>>379081740

This is why I don't understand why everyone is mad that Nintendo is asking for money. When people are saying "it's ok when Nintendo does it" regarding online subscription fees what they're really saying is "it's ok when Sony and Microsoft do it"

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>$20 a year
Oh cool, so I just have to work a couple hours and be good for the entire year.

Well, sucks to be a child who thinks $20 is anything but pocket change.

>>379080381
>>379081186

well you're both right. it's essentially a "free trial" period but the reason they're giving us a free trial at all is because their subscription service is NOT ready. they don't want to charge us for an incomplete service, but the reason they put out the switch while it was essentially incomplete was because it was better than the alternative, which was forcing everyone to wait another 6+ mos.

>>379066594
Zelda, Metroid, and Mario 3 at the fucking least. Those games were pretty cash. I was a fan of Kirby, too. That's just off the top of my head.

t.18 year old who had old games on the Wii

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>>379066250
This would be an easier pill to swallow if it included cloud saves but nope. Save data is still fucked if something happens to your Switch.

>>379066765
Don't forget you need to pay an extra 150,000 dollars for a house, 100 bucks a month for electricity, and days worth of your life in order to play it.

Like, seriously, you should already have a phone. WTF is this retarded shit?

>>379082086
I just have to work half an hour.

>>379082086
Exactly. Literally 3 hours of your life at minimum wage, with change to spare. 20 bucks is nothing.

>>379082086
>a couple
>not getting paid $26.50/hr for an entry level warehousing job
what third world shithole do you live in?

>>379082850
Wow anon great job

>>379082917
>physical work job
No thanks

>>379066250
>free
>$20
how exactly does twenty (20) dollars constitute as "free"?

>>379081891
It's much more that when MS or Sony does something they get shat on non stop but when Nintendo does it it's a free pass.

>>379083059
20 bucks a year may as well be free. I've spent 20 bucks a day before.

>>379083059
>child thinks $20 is a relevant amount of money
lol

>>379083046
>being a woman

>>379066250
$20, jesus. I'll give everyone in this thread $20 right now, $20 is nothing to me.

>>379070486
>hurr they're just ancient roms
This is an actual legitimate argument though. They're selling you ROMs you could get for **FREE** online.

>>379083545
Okay.

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>>379066250
>it's ok when Neokikeshitendo does it!

>>379083462
you didn't answer my question, anon

>>379083314
>sony and M$ shat on constantly
>but people still paying out the ass
>nintendo tries to make some money too to build a way cheaper, yet up-to-par online
>FUCKING NINTENDO

nintendo should get a free pass on this because if it's demolished, you retards will NEVER get online.

>>379066250
>$20 a year
>free games
>FREE

Try again.
Also if the service sucks (knowing Nintendo it will) then yes $20 will be too much.

>>379083595
I haven't played most of them largely because of how clunky emulators feel to me. I'm certainly not looking to pay Nintendo explicitly for the roms, but I'll probably actually play around with some of them for the first time since the UI will feel so much better.

>>379083392
>20 bucks a year may as well be free
then why don't they make it free?

>>379083059

cute.

>that shift in argument from "haha paying for online play" to "At least its not as bad as the others"
Console threads are amazing on how fast they just accept shit.

>>379083771
We've already gotten a taste of the dedicated servers with the testpunch and it's been good, distinctly better than before. If it's actually better than the Wii U's online, then $20 is worth it

>still uses the exact same shitty online service from the wii u, except this time they went backwards and brought friend codes back
>no voice chat
>no messages
>no game invites
>no online notifications
>no dedicated servers
>costs money when the wii u was free and had more functionality

>>379066250
>Paying money for sub par online features
>Paying money to use friend codes (why it's still a thing)
>Paying money to rent a rom each months
Anon...

Why are people on this board so fucking poor?

Yeah, paying any kind of fee for online is ridiculous, but the ship has sailed. Get over it.

>>379083879

consoles are shit. but they're fun too. sometimes you have to accept the shitty aspects for the good ones. i'm willing to pay $20 a year for good online.

>>379083973
There are dedicated servers, and that's all I really need out of it

>>379083845
you didn't answer my question...

>>379084031
There aren't any dedicated servers. Just a matchmaking server you need to connect to and search. All of the games are peer to peet.

>>379084030

That's the thing, Nintendo and good online have a history of not mixing well.

>>379084160
Nope, ARMS and Splatoon 2 are getting dedicated servers

>>379083824
I mean, to me it may as well be, but if they have the opportunity to make 20 million a year, why not do it?

>>379066765
don't forget the house you need to store everything, the clothes on your back so you aren't cold, and poptarts so you don't get hungry

>>379084207
Source? Because both of the test fires were exactly the same as Splat 1 on the Wii U: it would connect to a matchmaking server, but all of the games would be hosted by a player's console.

>>379084030
But it's not good online. I mean I don't mind 20 for a year as that's nothing but I would hope they actually use all those 20s to make improvements. Which I can't see over what we used to have.

>>379084010
>LMAO WHY ARE YOU SUCH POORFAGS?!?! WHY CAN'T YOU JUST PAY $20 DOLLARS A YEAR FOR EXCLUSIVE SHIT LIKE ME?!?!
(yawns)

This is how people go poor
Only starts at 20$ per year.

>>379084329
Yeah, you're fucking right, $1.67 a month is fucking ridiculous. Fucking Nintendo.

>>379084467
It is ridiculous when a better service was provided last gen for $0.00. And they didn't try and insult us with 30-year-old ROMs.

>>379083973

>wii u
>more functionality
yea but less actual fucking online gameplay. how about we focus on ensuring all multiplayer games can actually be played online before ensuring we have your precious voice chat so you can RP with your /v/irgin friends

>>379084185
nintendo and paying for online has a history of not existing. where do you think the money is going to go? up their ass? no. well maybe a portion of it will but most will be used to sustain online. why do you think xbox live has been successful? because they have money to pour into it because a LOT people have shelled out $50 a year for over a DECADE. the way i see it, the fact that nintendo is adding a subscription fee is evidence that they're going to get their shit together. money don't grow on trees and they're not going to pour the cash they've already earned into an online service if it doesn't turn a profit.

>>379084467
>Wii U online service = $0.00
>Switch online service = $1.67
Yeah, I'd say that's fucking ridiculous.

>>379084650
What does the Switch have for online games? Mario Kart 8: The Rehashening? Bomberman? And what else?

>>379083973
Literally every point you made is not true. Educate yourself before you open your fuckhole.

>>379066250
>>379067684
>>379068863
It should be "Retroflix"
They have rights to so many good classics but instead of using it properly, they just fuck around.
Wii VC is still king and it boggles my mind.

>>379084797
Every single one of those points is true. Prove me wrong.

I love it when I know a thread's OP will get a fat stack of (You)s

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>Sony announces paid online with PS+
>Still get access to the instant games collection and $10 cheaper than Xbox Live Gold
>HA "FREE" GAMES AND YOU STILL PAY FOR ONLINE
>Nintendo announces paid online with a game download plan
>Get "netflix" like access to NES and SNES roms that you can download in seconds for free off the internet onto your phone to play
>HA NINTENDO WINS AGAIN

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>have BOTW on the PC, so it means nothing on the Switch
>can download every single rom from NES to WiiU on my PC, AND I can play online with them thanks to new emulation developments, so the virtual nesflix means nothing
>my phone is more portable than the Switch, so it does mobile gaming better (even if it's full of garbage f2p games)
>I hate esports, so Arms and Splatoon mean nothing to me

Why should I buy a Switch again?

>>379080358
>fan of Pokemon in 2017

I too was excited for S&M Anon, but you've brought this upon yourself

>>379085056
>splatoon
>esports

>>379084745

did you miss the switch direct

>arms and splat2n first of all
>over 80 third party games in development
>online service going into effect by end of year
>plus who knows what else nintendo is hiding behind the curtain

it's an investment you fucking retard. the alternative is waiting until switch has a good library of games, and then they'll have shitty online. but then you would be complaining "why does nintendo have shitty online??"

>>379084843
>still uses the exact same shitty online service from the wii u, except this time they went backwards and brought friend codes back
It's not the same service.
>no voice chat
There will be voice chat
>no messages
There will be messages
>no game invites
There will be friend inviting
>no online notifications
What do you even
>no dedicated servers
There already are dedicated servers
>costs money when the wii u was free and had more functionality
No

If you want sources use fucking google, I'm not going to do the most basic homework for you.

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>>379066765

My smartphone cost 60 bucks and I use a 30 dollar a month no-contract service.

Not my fault you don't know how to compare prices and you just buy whatever the salesman tricked you into getting.

>>379085127

>no single player at all, just a glorified tutorial
>60 bucks for an online sandbox to babysit kids

Like I said, esport. Same as League ofLegends or Call of Duty.

>>379083059
>>379083845

okay, sorry, i didn't realize you really are just retarded. of course it's not actually "free." it's the real world. shit costs money. nothing's free. get over it. no, it's not cool, but if you live your life like everything in the world has to cater to you, like everything has to be cool, your life is gonna be shit, amigo. so you have to pay a measly 20 a year to enjoy your video games online. cry me a fucking river.

>>379085263
>s-search yourself!! i'm not going to back up my argument!! you should believe whatever fucking lie is told to you!! you fucking idiot!!

>>379085263
>It's not the same service.
It's similar enough. Peer to peer garbage.
>There will be voice chat
>There will be messages
>There will be friend inviting
It doesn't count if you have to use external hardware.
>What do you even
You have to back out of whatever game you're in and check your friends list to see who is online.
>There already are dedicated servers
Liar. Post proof.
>No
The Wii U had messages without having to use external hardware, voice chat without having to use external hardware, the home button would flash to tell you who is online, and it had actual usernames to add people with instead of convoluted 12-digit numbers.

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>>379085403

>it's the real world. shit costs money. nothing's free. get over it.

t. only plays on consoles

>>379085148
Woah, you sure showed me how worthwhile a $20/year subscription is with single-player indieshit and games that aren't even out yet!

>>379085445
We're discussing Nintendo's online service. If you didn't even bother to look up the basic specifications before posting in this thread then I'm not gonna do it for you either. There's a difference between having to back up your arguments and having to educate some fuck who's too lazy to google for half a minute.

>>379085545

you paid for your computer didn't you? so were all those games you play "free?" fucking retard.

>>379085383
So you don't like multiplayer games? Do you not have any friends?

>>379085403
>NOTHING IS FREE LMAO
>SO THAT OBVIOUSLY PROVES MY POINT ABOUT HOW IT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT BULLSHIT PAYING $20 FOR ROMS YOU COULD GET FREE ONLINE LMAO!!!!!
sorry that it's more convenient for me to play retro games FOR FREE, rather than PAYING FOR THEM

>>379085683
There isn't a difference. You have to back up your claims before saying what you want to say. Debating 101.

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>>379084305
>>379083973
>>379084797
>>379085263
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERGHHHHH!
HOW DARE YOU POINT THOSE THINGS OUT REEE REEEEEEE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>379085740

I like PC multiplayer games, but not 60 dollar console multiplayer games, especially shooters with horrible control schemes, and ones that paywall even more content behind amiibos.

>do you not have any friends
I have many friends, none of them play console shooters though, as they have good taste.

>>379085984
>horrible control schemes

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>>379066594
There are some good NES
Dont pretend there are not.

>>379086041

Yes, that's what I said. A shooter is only good with KBM, and no amount of praise for gyro controls will ever change that. And no, "almost as good" means nothing. This isn't horseshoes.

>>379086209
How do you know if you never played it?

>>379086091
There are around 20 NES games that can still be considered good.
I don't know why you linked an image with equal amount of bad and good games depicted.

kek. i'm not trying to defend subscription fees. they suck. i'm saying they're a necessity(right now) for consoles to have thriving online services.

>>379085748
>implying i'm the guy saying "nothing is free"
actually it's this guy right here: >>379083059
>how exactly does twenty (20) dollars constitute as "free"?

i'm just saying i accept it. i don't want to pirate and i don't need to. i have a gaming pc, xbox, ps4, switch, and enjoy them all online. if you don't want to pay for them that's your prerogative but if all you do is steal your games then stop bitching when shit costs money.

you don't have to apologize to me. you can do whatever you want. but you're the one acting like people who are OK with paying $20 for a fee are insane. and then you expect them to treat you like you are sane? you're being an asshole then you want everyone to act like you're the nice guy doing them a favor? look at your greentext. is that what i said? is that how i act? maybe it's time for you to calm down lmao

also, >>379085691
>you paid for your computer didn't you? so were all those games you play "free?" fucking retard.

i'm willing to pay because i accept the fact that the online service will crash and burn like the previous 2 generations without revenue, i want to support nintendo, and $20 is nothing to me, poorfag.

>>379085941

ignore the wojak poster

>>379066250
They're truly the KyoAni of videogames.
No wonder they're both based in Kyoto.

>>379086256

But I did play it? Went through the whole glorified tutorial using nothing but twin stick controls because I couldn't stand the garbage jittery camera of the gyro control scheme. Of course, that didn't even hamper me since the game is disgustingly casual.

But what was even funnier wass when I went online, and I wasn't even hampered by the twin stick controls, since every opponent I faced was under the age of 10. And I'm not gonna grind in pubs for ten year olds hoping to find a good match.

>>379086440
>"steal your games"
fucking lol

>>379086785
>i feel entitled to judge a game because i played it in the worst possible way

>>379086813
>getting goods and services for free
>that people worked hard to produce
>not stealing

fucking lol

>>379086932

There is no way to play it in the best possible way unless you let me use KBM controls.

>>379086813

let me ask you a question: if none of this is pertinent to a pirate like you, why are you here arguing against it?

>>379087063
It literally isn't stealing though.

>>379086785
I remember you. You're the same faggot who complained the game was too easy, but didn't want to take the time to actually play good players.

>>379084467
Don't forget you also need to buy a house so you have room for a chair to sit on

>>379087364
i'm not a hardcore one though. i DO buy games. i only get them in the most convenient way possible (whether buying them or pirating them). i'm just arguing against shitty business practices.

>>379085984
What multiplayer games do they play then?

>>379087495
And you also need to pay for electricity to run the damn thing.

>>379087446

why should I have to? The game should be good by itself.

>>379087389

that's beside the point. i don't care if you pirate or not. i do too sometimes. but i consider it thievery. if you don't, that's fine(actually it's not), but just please stop complaining when stuff outside of piracy costs money. if you can just pirate, then keep pirating if you want to(actually please don't pirate so much, content creators need support & funding)

>>379087651
>i'm just arguing against shitty business practices.

what? then complain about the other 120983120381 shitty business practices. of course it's shitty that a subscription fee has to exist for consoles to have a good online. but that's the way it is right now. nintendo will never achieve a proper online if it doesn't up the ante and they need extra income in order to do that. the more you keep arguing against "shitty business practices" like subscription fees the more you damage consoles in general. which might be positive for you if you just want to play on a pc, but the consequence is destroying the businesses. nintendo's a good company overall man. let them thrive. we should be glad they're not going full jew and charging us $50-60 like sony/M$. yes it sucks that we have to pay $20 at all but i accept it, considering the alternatives.

>>379088195
>"i tried playing chess with a bunch of ten year olds. it FUCKING SUCKED"
>well why don't you play with people who know how to play
>"why should i"

jesus dude. you might be unsalvageable

>>379088195
The game is good, though. If it worked how you want, you'd just be whining that you got your shit pushed in immediately.

>>379088195
By this logic all single players games are terrible because they don't support multiplayer

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>>379087709
Incidentally, Nintendo's also the lightest on the electricity bill. Switch runs on 11 watts when running Breath of the Wild docked.

>>379066380
the space and auto capitalize are symptoms of phone posts

>>379088405
>>379088408
>>379088860

A game should have a good singleplayer above all else. I don't care about the multiplayer scene because every time I tried playing a console game in multiplayer, I was met with nothing but children, and it's boring curbstomping the other team a billion times in while anons keep saying "you'll find a challenge eventually, just gotta keep grinding". That's not fun, this isn't a stupid MMO.

Either give me a solid, challenging singleplayer, or your game goes in the garbage.

>>379066250
>its okay because we're also paying for an emulator

>>379089437
I bet you didn't even play long enough to get the ability to play ranked.

>>379089804

I'm pretty sure 6 hours should be enough playtime. I'm not grinding a single minute beyond that. Nintendo hasn't earned my time.

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>>379078295
Easier to read than its official website you dumbfuck

>>379089992
You still haven't earned the right to say the game is easy.

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>>379089437

>A game should have a good singleplayer above all else.

thanks for displaying your ignorance. i'm sure you, a clear expert on creating video games, has full knowledge on what games "should" be. thank you for sharing. interesting perspective.

it's fine if you want a good single player experience. but you can't say every game must have one. that's fucking stupid. splatoon is meant to be multiplayer. some games are meant to be multiplayer. that's fine. go close your curtains and play your single player games. pic related.

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>>379066250
>pay for shit online services

It's nice its only $20 but Switch is almost trash as WiiU one
you guys are even more pathetic that PSfags

>>379090339

>this online service which has barely existed and has not reached peak potential is worse than an online service that has been active for years and is already ending

no shit. give it a chance.

>>379090071

Oh no, I've more than earned it. 60 bucks down, and I've beaten it. I didn't even die to DJ Octavio, the final boss. That's pathetic.

If this game was even slightly challenging, I would've gotten my teeth kicked in by using the worst control scheme, if gyro was so good after all. The game would've sold me on its merit,s instead of being call of duty tier casual trash.

>>379090256

>it's fine if you want a good single player experience. but you can't say every game must have one. that's fucking stupid.
Every game that's 60 dollars should have a good singleplayer. There's no excuse not to have one. I didn't let Titanfall slide, I didn't let overwatch slide (even if it was only 40 dollars) and I sure as hell won't let Splatoon get a pass.

>>379090462
Nintendo has given zero reason to believe the Switch's paid online will be in any way better than the Wii U's free online.

>>379090507
The game tries to match you with the absolute bottom of the barrel at the beginning. You can't win a single game of anything and then proclaim you're the best at it. See the above anon's Chess comment.

>>379090679

>The game tries to match you with the absolute bottom of the barrel at the beginning.
So why did I continue getting the bottom of the barrel, when winning a match means I'm supposed to get better opponents? I guess they can't match me with something that doesn't exist.

>>379090802
Because you played for less than 6 hours, and likely never even tried the ranked mode.

>>379090846

>it gets good after 500 hours

How about "it gets good NOW"? I gave the game enough of my time, where's my payoff?

>>379066250
sure cuck

>>379090532

nobody's given you ANY reason to believe unpaid online can thrive in this day and age. microsoft has jewed consumers for over a decade. sony had to join the jewfest in order to survive. now nintendo, who is hurting over its wii u debacle, needs some extra cash in order to stay in the race. and even then, they're only asking for $20, compared to its competitors.

what would worry me is if they had come out and said "switch will have free multiplayer." that would be evidence, to me, that they are not going to put ANY effort into the multiplayer. the way i see it, the fact they're going to charge for online is evidence they're trying to get their shit together with online. which nintendo NEEDS to do.

>>379090980
>i don't have to prove anything to you, i'm the best even though i barely played it
I'd invite you to play some S+ ranked games, but you'd probably make some excuse that you sold the game.

>>379068589
These nuggets probably pay $15 a year for the Gamestop brownie points membership already anyways

>>379090846
>>379091083

stop arguing with him. he's either trolling or too stupid to understand. you are wasting your time.

>>379066250
>Free retro game access

>/v/ now thinks free roms are a new feature

>>379066343
They fucked up regardless.

I mean, in terms of market sure, it's probably going to be a success, but it was wrong when microsoft did paid online, it was wrong when sony did it and it's wrong now.

It being cheaper means it's less of a jew move? Maybe, but it's still fucking wrong.

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>>379066380
>meme text

>>379091062
They're still not putting ANY effort into online, and the Switch is functionally regressive in comparison tot he Wii U.

>>379091083

you're the same anon who said that, but about Metroid: Federation Force.

>dude it's a fantastic game! you're just entitled!

I don't feel like being lied to twice in a row.

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>>379083793
>piece of technology with tons of opportunities to mess around with, always being worked on and improved
>you can personalize the experience and get involved in it
>can play whatever you want

>Would rather pay more money than necessary to have a limited experience just because "the UI is just so much better"

Found the Macfag.

Post a screenshot, tell me I'm wrong.
>too "clunky"

>>379091541
I'm sorry you're not good enough to hit the top ranks against children.

>>379091507

>They're still not putting ANY effort into online
what lol? where's your evidence of this?

>Switch is functionally regressive in comparison tot he Wii U.
duh. it's still exiting its launch window. and it was released WAY too early. it's incomplete. give it a minute. i guarantee you it'll get its shit together.

>>379091369

>in terms of market sure, it's probably going to be a success

bingo, retard. of course it's wrong. but nintendo is overall a good company and they need to stay in the race. unless you want sony and microshit to win. sometimes they gotta do bad shit in order to stay afloat.

>>379066250
>charge $20 a year for something that costs $0

Neat.

You guys are going to be throwing your wallets at 4chan once they have a $20 feature to post as much as you want without captchas, huh?

>>379091829
>where's your evidence of this?
The Switch as it is right now. Where's your evidence that it will improve?

>>379091202
>5

>you have to like my favorite game, or you're stupid and trolling

Wow anon. Did you graduate from 4th grade?

>>379091874
Where's your evidence that it will improve?
>subscription fee
>voice chat support
>many many games in development

the fact that the switch was released unfinished is my evidence that it will improve. of course they're going to spruce it up. they're not going to leave it unfinished. the switch is NOT worth it at all right now. nintendo knows this. but i guarantee you it will be a must-own in the next few years.

>>379091690

I faced nothing but children online. Why should I believe you when you say that "it tgets good eventually"? My experience says more than your words. And since you defend games like Paper Mario: color splash and Metroid Fed Force, your word is faulty m8.

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>Kikerosoft does paid online
>Sonybros: "Haha fucking retarded Xbots, who pays for online?"
>Sony announces PS+
>Sonybros: "IT'S ONLY 5 BUCKS A MONTH WHAT ARE YOU POOR!?"
>Nintendo announces paid online
>Nintendorks: "LITERALLY CHUMP CHANGE THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THIS"

It's shit no matter the system, all the 'bonuses' you get for paying are a fucking joke as well.

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>>379091874
You can't be serious. Name a console released in the past 2 generations that didn't receive updates.

That was not even remotely an actual argument and you know it isn't. I'll give you a free pass to delete your post and try again and keep your integrity.

>>379092126
>>subscription fee
So?
>>voice chat support
It doesn't count. You have to use a phone, a device designed for the sole purpose of talking to people who are not in the same room as you.
>>many many games in development
And how many of those are already out? Or support an online mode that is something impossible to attain on the existing Wii U?

>>379068589
/v/ now believes it has standards and morals and believes the principle of it existing is the new death of nintendo like it has been every two weeks for the last decade

>>379092030

kek. i told you that it's fine to like what you like. look: >>379090256
>that's fine. go close your curtains and play your single player games.

did you know that some people think that games should require strong multiplayer? you might not agree with this but, wow, it's a different opinion! just like yours is a different opinion than ours. which is fine. but the thing is, you have no place to say what a game should be or what it must have. retard.

>free retro game access

Yeah this is all well and good until you see the completely trash games they let you play.

No one wants to play fucking NES games.

>>379092238
This.

I'm hoping the Switch gets some hacks soon, because I want to get on the front lines of figuring out how to bypass the paywall.

I'm going to get to the next level of fucking with Nintendo.

>>379092131
Because I actually play people who are good at the game. My invitation to play some S+ games still stands.

>>379092452
*nobody wants to PAY for fucking NES games when emulation exists

>>379092452
NES games are like McDonald's toys to people nowadays, especially children.

>Hands them out for "free" with purchase
>spends a few minutes kind of enjoying it
>gets bored with it and never plays it again
>New one comes out (*with purchase)
>"GOTTA GET IT!"
>repeat

>>379092417

>did you know that some people think that games should require strong multiplayer?
Then I'm afraid they have an incorrect opinion. Every game this gen already has shoehorned in multiplayer, it's objectively wrong to think that games need more of it. Meanwhile we barely have enough good singleplayer games.

>>379092507

>Because I actually play people who are good at the game.
That still doesn't explain why the singleplayer is terrible, and your invitation won't make up for the wasted 60 dollars that I don't get back from this game.

>>379093063
The single player was never the main focus of the game. It's your fault you bought it without knowing anything about the game.

>>379092276
>so?
i told you why this is relevant in these posts(and probably more but i've been posting
a lot and don't want to dig them all out):
>>379091829
>>379091062
they need money in order to support online. how do they get money for online without a subscription fee?
>voice chat support doesn't count

according to you. it's there. it exists. it's a factor. it counts. you can't say that it doesn't count just because it doesn't abide by your made up rules. when did voice chat exist in previous nintendo consoles? oh wait, it barely fucking existed at all. now that it's going to be as easy as downloading an app on your phone you can voice chat any time. you know why they chose a phone to support voice chat? because everybody has a fucking phone. the switch is extremely portable and they need a portable option for voice chat, unlike shit like wii speak.

here, i'll let reggie sum it up for you..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_OgxrwWZU8&t=1m19s

>>379093178

It was advertised with a singleplayer. Don't use that as a blurb in your advertising if you're not gonna try and make it good.

>The single player was never the main focus of the game.
Then don't charge 60 bucks. It should barely be 20 bucks.

>>379093063

i never said it was a good opinion. actually, it's an opinion just like yours. short sighted, stupid, ignorant, but it's not "objectively" wrong because opinions are subjective. i even told you you were going to disagree with it but you're too stupid to understand my point. i'm done discussing this with you.

>>379093308
It was advertised as a primarily multiplayer game with a single player that's there, but not the focus. The game wasn't even going to have a single player by the time they announced it.

>>379093308

It was advertised with single player so retards like you will buy it. Good goy.

>>379066250
The online multiplayer of classics sold me. I'll be getting a switch just for the classics alone.

>>379093559
Does the NES even have any good synchronous multiplayer games?

>>379092452
Then why did over 2 million people buy the NES Classic? How is it that the Virtual Console is selling millions of downloads for NES games for $5 each?

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>>379066250
>$20 for something I can get for free

>>379093671
People are hoping that Ninty will modify them to allow online multiplayer
It definitely won't happen, but its nice to have dreams I guess

>>379093892
Just in general. I can't remember any games that don't have the "take turns" approach that Super Mario Bros had.

>>379093421
>>379093537

The point still stands that they should never have advertised a singleplayer, AND it shouldn't be 60 dollars. There is absolutely no reason for that. the fact that it had no content at launch and was essentially unfinished was an even scummier move, and they hid it by pretending to give free content updates, when they were just finishing the game they should've had done.

>>379094102
Do you always buy games without doing any research?

>>379093671
Dr. Mario and Balloon Fight both have simultaneous multiplayer.

>>379066343
>if this ends up like Sony where the service is the same and or worse when you have to pay for it they fucked up.
No. The only people who fucked up are the people who supported paid online and let this happen.
Sony and Microsoft literally make more money off of their paid subscriptions than they do from games and hardware sales. It'll no doubt end up the same for Nintendo.

Just let that sink in for a moment. Games are actually treated as secondary these days. The focus lies on maintaining and expanding the subscription services.

>>379093972
Come to think of it, I can't think of any other than pong

>>379094145

I did my research with Splatoon, but I was lied to. The game has no singleplayer, just a tutorial. the advertising was maliciously untrue. Will you stop blindly defending Nintendo for 5 seconds and see why a customer shouldn't be silenced for a dissenting opinion?

>>379094378
Obviously not enough because anyone could have told you it's something that could be completed in an hour and a half at worst.