Which game is better?

Probably Ratchet 1.
but in the 2's, Sly wins.

Questions is- who wins the 3's?

Die furfag

1: Jak
2: Ratchet
3: Sly

Jak and Daxter is better. But Sly 2 and Going Commando are infinitely better than the rest of the Jak and Daxter series.
Also, Up Your Arsenal is the best game on PS2.

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Jak & Daxter = Ratchet & Clank >> Sly Cooper

Ratchet & Clank: Going Commando > Sly 2 > Jak 2

Jak 3 = Ratchet & Clank: Up Your Arsenal > Sly 3

>best first game
Jak & Daxter
>best second game
Sly Cooper
>best third game
Ratchet & Clank
>best fourth game
They were all equally bad.

>1s
Jak.
>2s
Sly
>3s
Ratchet.
>>379036014
>equally bad
Deadlocked was good tho. Different, but good.

>>379036069
Nah, Deadlocked lacked a lot of the charm and adventure feel of the other games.

Best first game: Ratchet and Clank
Best sequel: Jak 2
Haven't played Sly Cooper

>>379036014
>thieves in time
>bad

>>379036876
Yes.

>>379036876
kys. thieves in time plays like shit and the story is slash-fiction tier. it's non-canon imo

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Jak 1 > Jak 3
POWER GAP
Sly 2 > Sly 3 > Sly 1
POWER GAP
Sly 4 > Jak 2

>>379035520
ratchet and jack are tied because both are awesome in their own way
sly is fun too but cant compete
shame the way they all turned out these days
why did this genre go to shit so hard?

>>379035642
Ratchet because it was the only good third game

>>379035520
The one without furry protagonist.

Jak 1 is fucking trash why is that mediocre shit so praised here?

>>379035520
I loved Sly 1, but the other Sly games had gimmicks up the ass. Haven't played any of the Jak games, because christ that main character is ugly. As for Ratchet, I've only played Tools of Destruction but I remember enjoying it a lot.

I assume that Ratchet is a better franchise than Sly, but Sly 1 might be more worthwhile than Ratchet 1. Maybe.

>>379038019
you sound young, are you?

>>379037775
sonybros consider it "their" SM64

>>379038083
21 is pretty young so I'll say yes, but I've had a good day and sometimes I forget that I have to sound jaded and cynical to fit in on /v/

>>379038019
Sorry for your shitty taste, but Sly 2 and 3 blows first one out of water

>>379038175
yeah even if im trying to be genuine it just comes off as cynical here. im glad we understand each other

>>379035520
Between those games in particular? Jak. If you mean series as a whole, easily Ratchet and Clank. They're much more consistent

>>379035520
I haven't played Sly but Jak 1 > Ratchet 1, if only because Ratchet 1 is SORELY in need of strafing while Jak 1 is a fun collectathon.

>>379039347
You know, I used to think that, but recently I went back to it after the disappointing remake, and I found the lack of lock strafe really wasn't as bad as I remember
Most enemies died pretty quickly, so it never really needed proper aim

>>379039542
I only played it recently and the lack of strafe gave me the absolute shits and lead to a lot of deaths that wouldn't have happened otherwise. It's bad enough to the point that I won't recommend it to people and just tell them to start at R&C 2 or the remake of 1 instead, despite the fucked characterization of Ratchet.

>>379035520

Never played Ratchet, liked Sly a lot more than Jak.

>>379039690
Maybe I only think that now becuase I'm quite familiar with the first game
It's probably still a difficult start for new players, but I still couldn't recommend the butchered remake over it
The game is worth experiencing for it's OST alone

>>379035520
Sly 1 and R&C 1 were pretty poor so there's not much of a contest here.

>>379039851
Jak 1 was the worst of them all

>>379037775
Serviceable plot, collectathon in the veins of Spyro w/ Crash controls.

Looking back on it it's nothing special, I guess nostalgia is the driving factor. It had good art direction as well. Too bad it all went to shit with the second game.

>>379039347
Ratchet 1 had strafing, you unlock it with the jetpack upgrade and activate it by double-tapping L2

Spoiler, it's garbage

>>379035520
Jak 1 was a pretty neat platformer that was basically on every PS2 demo unit in its time
R&C 1 was okay but hasn't aged too well compared to the rest of the series, especially with the new reboot/remake
Sly 1 was mediocre at best but was greatly improved in its later games.

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>that kid who swore by the Jak games

Get real idiot.

>>379035520
Ratchet & Clank because it knew what the franchise was already but unlike Sly Cooper it was great from a technical standpoint as well.

>>379035995
>posts the most retarded and contrived boss fight
>hey, my lazers create climbable pillars in ascending order for some reason
>hey, let me just position myself under three precariously balanced exploding minecarts

>>379036014
>They were all equally bad.
pleb
Deadlocked was GOAT tier in coop, Jak X is probably the best kart racer and Sly 4 is the best Sly Cooper game

>>379036924
>>379037256
best art, best gameplay, best story (has actually humor unlike the first game), most content and overall better at basically everything