I was born in a small [spoiler]mgs ruse thread[/spoiler]

oh, anon...

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>Names himself SkullFace

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>>379024178
Just going to leave this here

>>379024402
They look nothing alike.

But god damn I wish there was a showdown between them. Its like they were foils to each other, but nothing happened. MGSV always finds a way to disappoint more and more.

>>379024178
> tfw Skull Face was never playabe in MGO

>>379024252
>not naming yourself, your child, and your dog Hot Coldman
Faggot

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comprehensive guide to delusional ruse posters

pretty long, but don't say you weren't warned. this will kill any sense of wanting to post in ruse threads, no chance of recovery

spread the word

>>379024858
This.
It's like Van Cleef meets Van Cleef.

>>379025136
thanks for posting this in every thread, mate.

>>379025380
first time i've posted on /v/ today, but i'm glad this is getting traction

>>379025136
Ah, I remember BTFO'ing the Gambling Conspiracy Theorist from a lot of what his pasta said and he got pretty mad.
The most fun in that thread was that he kept saying over and over again that there was no way he could back up his claim that Kojima Productions wasn't registered in Japan.
And people proved him wrong again.

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>>379025603
you're all doing god's work. i'll be posting this as well if i see any of his faggot threads.

>>379025683
spoiler alert, my dude- most ruse threads are started by him before he turns his tripcode on

>>379025762
oh, i'm fully aware of that. his samefagging is hilariously bad.

Metal Gear: Snakes revenges is clearly the best game in the series. Clearly a giant ruse by Kojima.

I think yongyea's page is giving me a brain tumor.

>STEPHANIE WAS IN JAPAN FOR A PHOTOSHOOT
>IS THIS DEATH STRANDING RELATED?

>>379026173
Haven't followed DS bullshittastic theories in months.
My hopes are that Steph won't be in the fucking game.

>>379024178
i cant wait for MGS5 to be revealed at E3 along wirthg chapter 3

>>379028223
jejed

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>mfw when a mgs thread earlier ended up proving that paz and zadornov are mantis's parents

Paging Anyone

>>379024178
why does he wear a mask in TPP but not in GZ?

>>379025136
>>379025380
>>379025557
>>379025603
>>379025683
>>379025762
>>379025896

You faggots will be lining up to grovel and apologize after E3 when the Candyman comes a'callin.

>>379032590
look forward to reading about your suicide after e3.

>>379032590
I would just like to know, percentage wise, how SURE are you of the ruse cruise, and how SURE are you it'll be revealed at E3?

KojimaPro is in Japan. Or at least the local where they capture motion and etc.

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What's this guy's name again?

>>379033281
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb424eDrGCg

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I'm ready for the real MGS5, /v/. Are you?

>>379033281
Kaz "shoot lead into Glaz's head" Miller

>>379033423
kek
>>379033281
Kaz "Mother Base is for the master race" Miller

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>tfw remembering when you would watch the trailers every day
it still hurts

>>379032934
Not the retard.
Pretty sure it's the same percentage than it was in the VGA's and in the PSX's.

>>379033557
the phantom pain never lets up. hopefully that caramel faggot is right, probably not though

>>379033734
I mean, It would be great and I would be the first to say I was wrong but its not gonna happen. Best we can hope for is metal gear survive wont be completely garbage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW7k1s8vu8M

My sides

Venom just sat there the whole time in the back of the truck without saying a single thing. The real BB would've said some witty shit

>>379033734
>>379033839
Would you REALLY want it to be though? If he's right (and he's not) then that means Konami has effectively had you pay full price for a demo and a prototype, caused countless, pointless internet melodrama, and is doing something completely fucking retarded with Silent Hill.

The only good missions in the game are: Saving Kaz, Pitch Dark, Finding Code Talker, OKB Zero, and Sahelanthropus. Nothing came close to Ground Zeroes either

>>379025136
Is it just me or is that picture completely unreadable?

>>379034005
kselgnsk;gs lhe hr

>>379034267
open in new tab and zoom in. it's all legible, but you can just read the highlighted stuff and the text in black

>>379034267
hw nw r u.

howdy

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I'll just leave this here

>>379036769
>I'll just leave this here
Why?
That's not Hideo Kojima the video-game creator, that's Hideo Kojima, a retired corporate auditor for Mitsubishi Group

>>379036769
So?

I'm playing this for the first time now, and other than how hamfisted the whole Not Big Boss thing is and the obvious lead in to MGO with these fucking real-time mechanics Im enjoying it
when does it disappoint me /v/

>>379037468
Whenever the stakes start to get real.

>>379037468
When you get to the part where it says Chapter 2: RACE, just add a mental image in your head where it says EPILOGUE instead

>>379037692
>>379037720
is that because the game blue-balls you? thats all I hear, and I've been pretty good at not being totally spoiled except for the obvious big ones.
I mean, it's basically what I wanted out of Shitwalker, so it's got that going for it

>>379037935
You feel empty at the end cause nothing gets resolved. It would be worse if you didn't already know the big twist

>>379038114
well fuck
The big twist is really obvious as I play too, some of the dialogue is so weird that I kind of think I would have noticed something wrong if I was unspoiled. I definitely would have picked up on the fact that Venom doesn't know Russian, and that happens AFTER the oh-so-clever avatar creator and 'face switching' in the beginning that Kojima tried to make confusing

https://youtu.be/40QSd6ZtZfk
CHAPTER THREE CONFIRMED

>>379038291
They say it's cuz of the metal jammed in your brain that makes you forget stuff and also makes you colorblind when under stress (serious injury)

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>>379024252

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>>379038442
Bravo, Kojima.

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>>379026173
We always hated YEAAAAAAAONG HEEEERE

>>379038454
yeah that was a shit excuse when Venom says 1 thing throughout the whole prologue and Ishmael in general. The fact that I look like Big Boss then they tell me they're going to perform plastic surgery and to create a new face and then after the surgery I'm Big Boss still and there's some other bandaged guy with a bandaged face with extreme military training in the bed next to me it seems kind of obvious that something is wrong

>>379038852
Ocelot just pretends that ishmael was some british soldier that was recovering in cypress who happened to help you

Can someone explain Skull Face's motivations? I've completely forgotten them and am hurting my brain trying to remember. Was it something like
>make the world want more nuclear weapons by escalating conflicts
>sell the world more nuclear weapons that he controlled
>lace the nukes with the English strain of the Wolbachia so when the nukes fly at his command English as a language will die so he gets revenge on the language that fucked up his sense of identitiy

>>379039238
When? I haven't gotten that dialogue yet, he just kind of ignores the subject in the first tape it's brought up in and then hasn't been for a while, but I'm still early on because I enjoy the pointless hurdles the game gives me for extra shit, I played PW expecting to do shit like this and was disappointed as fuck so I'm indulging

>>379039289

At the end of the day his motivation is horrible, when I played TPP and he started explaining in the jeep it all seemed so stretched and stupid
what the fuck was his problem, why do all this weird shit

>>379025136
I can't believe someone went to the time and effort to make this. How do you faggots have so much time to waste?

>>379039517
Get the fuck out

>>379039436
In one of the tapes I think Venom says "who was that guy?" and Ocelot just plays it off like cipher attacked a british installation so that's who helped him

>>379039238
That's a lie.
>>379039436
Quite literally the first line of Quiet spoils the twist.
You have to wilfully ignore what the game tells you to be surprised by the twist.

>>379039804
No.

>>379039848
Then it's about the reveal? Is the idea that Medic is not unlike Skull Face in the very thinnest of ways?

>>379024252
His actual codename is "ALBATROSS" but Kojima is a dumb fucking faggot and changed it midway through development.

>>379034267
it is, but you have to open it in a new a new tab or download it as png

>>379024178
Skullface in GZ
>machiavellian villain always thinking 10 steps ahead of everyone
>surrouded by an aura of mystery, nothing is known about him
>doesnt put himself in needless danger, acts from the shadows
>leads a badass tactical squad that is more than a match for MSF soldiers
>has a badass and suave voice

Skullface in MGSV
>bond villain always feeling the need to taunt venom, explain his plans and leave before actually killing him
>exposes himself to unnecesary danger and misses countless chances to kill venom
>XOF turns into a band of retards ''hurr lets shoot at the invincible fireman with bullets that will work''
>a fucking zorro mask
>WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

what the hell happened?

>>379024402
The reality is that "Skullface" is a figment of Snake's mind and Ocelot's MKULTRA.

The real Big Boss was working at Camp Omega, he was still a CIA man and working toward building FOXHOUND. One of the prisoners talks about a man who he cannot remember the face of, but who uses a direct quote by Big Boss from peace Walker.

The real Big Boss was betrayed at Camp Omega, but he never went into a coma. He fucked off to become Saladin, etc.

The real Big Boss has nothing to do with Ocelot. Only Miller has been fooled about the Ocelot ruse because he's been manipulated as well.
Ishmael is OCELOT's mind control. Ishmael may even literally be Ocelot.

>>379040732
i want to know as well man, really badly. what the fuck? people talk a lot about the trailers setting people up for disappointment, with the misleads and people imagining their own version of the game that could never be delivered, but i think it was ground zeroes that set me up for disappointment for than anything else. i was expecting the main game to be as good or better

>>379040838
>The real Big Boss was working at Camp Omega, he was still a CIA man and working toward building FOXHOUND. One of the prisoners talks about a man who he cannot remember the face of, but who uses a direct quote by Big Boss from peace Walker.

holy shit

this actually makes sense
this actually finally fucking explains it
this is the missing fucking link

>>379040321
Knowing about the twist doesn't makes it less disappointing.
The fact that the story is incomplete and really not that good for a Metal Gear is also a factor.
The open world is pretty shitty and could have been done better.

This shit is getting so out of control I don't even know why I bother reading up all theories. Already feels like a huge waste of time and efforts.
I'll give it a rest until E3 happens and then laugh at whatever comes next tbqh.

>>379040838
Big Boss had been out of the CIA since Peace Walker

>>379040942
if my future self had showed up and told me not to pre-order MGSV because the plot was gonna suck i wouldnt have believed me either

>>379041002
There is no XOF, it's just Big Boss. His expertise in leading an army of foreigners (different languages and ideals) was utilized in interrogating and renditioning international dissidents at Camp Omega. Big Boss created Guantanmo Bay and got stabbed in the chest for doing it.

it is very unlikely Zero was friendly with Big Boss at this point, the reality is that the attack was straight up Zero/Cipher. As if to say "you can work for me (CIA) but you can't have your own Army". And Big Boss walked instead, a global fugitive. He basically did the Solid Snake dog-musher in Alaska bit but with travelling warzones and being a low level invisible merc.

That being said, Big Boss is NOT working with Venom and the tape he was given is bullshit. This calls back to Solid Snake calling out Solidus as not being the Real Solid Snake. Big Boss literally sends his own son to kill his impostor, controlled by an old rival and the son of his mentor.

>>379033281
Kazuhira "Fulton a black, I'll send him back" Miller

>>379040732
>>379040838
holy fuck

skullface explaining fucking everything in TPP and never actu8ally being a threat to Venom is because Venom was Skullface the entire time, just disassociated

Venom's a demon because he was carrying out all of the fucking parasite experiments the whole time,. with Ocelot

that's why his subconscious knew about it, and would tell him the plans when triggered by visiting a location or whatever

it all makes fucking sense now

a major plot point of this game is how ocelot branched off and took so much power in the Patriots and all that while undermining Big Boss

this game is about ocelot developing the nanotech that dominates the world in 4

we, the player, did that all by hand

>>379041129
But he's back. This is the aspect of the plot that has been hidden. He's an unofficial contractor setting up the black site for the US military and it's programs.

>>379025136
HOLY SHIT
This whole ruse cruise thing is getting out of control.

>>379040838
>One of the prisoners talks about a man who he cannot remember the face of,
No, I know what mission you are talking about, I could just post the link.
>but who uses a direct quote by Big Boss from peace Walker.
It's almost like there were spies on Mother Base.

>>379041392
the direct quote was something said by big boss, to chico, in a room in a dead town in the middle of fucking nowhere, under no surveillance, with no listening ears.

>>379041294
The subplot is the active deployment of the S3 System which would go digital in MGS2 and represent the bulk of Raiden's life. Creating a big Boss by suggesting and prodding alone.

What does this all mean? Well, OKB Zero? Where Skullface hangs out? You remember those Diamond Dogs assets? Yeah. Ocelot built the army and you are his butt-boy. He gave you an oil-rig to play house in, but he built every thing else with the Philosopher's Legacy.

i remember when MGSV was just about to be released, /v/ had criticals level of hype and a french magazine leaked a review telling that the story was incomplete and the ending was awful

everyone denied it so hard

>>379040838
>>379041284
It's either one of the other anon, these two aren't compatible.

>>379041392
>>379041435
Yeah it is a personal message to Chico about PAIN. The way it is delivered in GZ is meant to imply Skullface is saying it to someone he has tortured. But GZ is clearly Venom's "interpretation" of what happened at Camp Omega, and so these tapes and testimonies are frivolous at best.

>>379041435
>under no surveillance,
WRONG

ZADORNOV WAS SPYING HIM, THERE IS THE SCENE IN PW WHERE THEY SHOW THIS

>>379041129
What do you think is more out of character for Big Boss?

>returning to work for the CIA (even though he later creates FOXHOUND)

>staging an elaborate ruse and destroying the mind and body of an underling solely to give himself some kind of cover, even though he's a master at stealth and a willing outdorrsman

>>379025136
I feel like Conan reading this shit lmao
E3 going to be cray

>>379038442
Still better than Nirvana's cover

>>379041550
They are compatible. Big Boss was friendly with the CIA. He recently got over his obsession with the Boss' death after destroying Peace Walker. Zero chose to strike MSF while Big Boss wasn't there. It is unlikely that Chico or Paz were really "kidnapped" and there was never an infiltration by Snake. He flew there in an approved helicopter and he flew back.

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>>379041294
>>379041473
>>379041648

>>379029887
>Mantis has Paz's hair.
>Zadornov's hand is red.
>Mantis's hair is red.
Let me know if I am wrong.

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>>379041927

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>>379041473

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>>379041927
>>379042009

>>379039848
What does Quiet say?

>>379039238
This proves that Ishmael is Ocelot.
Ocelot actively acknowledges what is portrayed as a hallucination.

Ocelot is probably following you around with a fucking pendulum and putting you in a trance all the time. Crazy fucking bastard.

>>379034050
What if they also released the final chapter for MGSV as dlc for people who own it? Then announced that they didn't actually scrap the project?

I mean, I highly doubt it. But if we're talking hypotheticals...

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>>379041927
I didn't even had to do anything, you outed the power of your mental gymnastics in one post, well done.

>>379042610
Assuming there is some kind of Camp Omega twist, mental gymnastics are REQUIRED in order to figure out what that fucking slope Judeo Kojima was thinking.

>>379042404
>Gets a radio call.
"Not yet. The patient on the next bed saw my face. Of course. Consider it done."
And then she proceeds to try and kill Venom.

>>379042752
She doesn't know that Ocelot is the one wearing a party mask.

But literally, Ocelot is the one wearing a party mask.

>>379042752
This is meant for >>379042291
>>379042404
That would be true, except that what the guy you replied to said is wrong.

>>379041885
I like you.
Fuck anyone who likes Nirvana's cover.

Rusefags need to be gassed as soon as possible

>>379042863
Nirvana's cover unplugged is pleasing to the ears

>>379042885
gas my ass faggot

>>379024178
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNuycC-cmKQ
Nice to see Skull Face again.

>>379042802
No, Ishmael and Ocelot don't have the same type of body.
Also, you are making a headcanon based on a lie, which is retarded, I hope you reconsider your life's choices.

>>379042931
But it's ruined by Kurt's shitty emo voice

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did anybody ever figure out the "EAT STANDING" thing?
i put into an anagram solver and got the word "antedate"
>1570-80; earlier antidate < Middle French antidater, derivative of antidate a date earlier than the true date (by association with anté- ante- ), originally a date put in place of another date; see ante-, date1

>>379043023
What would be Big Boss's emotion on battle?
>>379042885
Zyklon B is not enough.

>>379042996
>No, Ishmael and Ocelot don't have the same type of body.
Have you seen Ocelot's body?
What's to say Ishmael isn't wearing a full body muscle suit?

>>379037935
>it's basically what I wanted out of Shitwalker
It tries to be better but fails. The base felt more lively. Probally due to the tapes from all the different character in PW aswell as all the menu stuff happened there instead of the idroid. Fucking nothing fun/interesting happens at base in MGSV

>>379043113
kojima is just trying to help gamers be more healthy
if you eat while standing, you burn more calories so you stay healthier
that is all

>>379043040
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IogXzkTGJg8

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>MGSV Cut content was just a Skateboard minigame

I remember Big Boss in peace walker saying "I don't like imitations. The real thing's ALWAYS better" when talking to huey about e-cigs or some shit. Can't believe he'd agree to have an impostor who doesn't even smoke cuban cigars.

>>379043127
The Feel

>>379039517
Same way the faggot trying to make this ruse an actual thing. The autism is on both sides and you are just a retard sitting in the middle pretending your too cool for all of it

>>379041284

EVERYTHING IS A FIGMENT OF THE BOSSES IMAGINATION WHILE SHE WAS GIVING BIRTH TO OCELOT AND PASSED OUT

>>379043168
Considering his clothes on MB consist on a shirt and a scarf I know for a fucking fact that Ocelot and Venom/Ishmael don't have the same type of body.

>>379043127
The Despair desu

>>379034005
best youtuber in history

>>379041435
Stop writing your own fucking narrative

>>379043262
One would think that getting Cuban cigars would be almost impossible in the fucking Seychelles.
Also Venom smokes cigars.

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>banana

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>>379043327
She didn't give birth, the baby was cut from her stomach.

Considering she is THE Boss it is unlikely she passed out.

Pic related, Death Stranding is about The Sorrow and The Joy.

>>379043127
Big Boss is every emotion of the cobra unit rolled into one guy. He defeated them all. He has plenty of pain, sorrow, fear, fury and joy in battle

>>379043373
a poofy shirt

Ocelot can do, at minimum, everything Clark Kent or Bruce Wayne does to differentiate themselves from their alter egos.

>>379043474
stop being a stupid piece of shit and go play peace walker

>>379043168
Oh shut up you fucking idiot.
Seriously, jesus christ

>>379043529
DS is WWII through the eyes of the Sorrow. That's why everything is crazy.

I'm confused about the chronology of events after Ground Zeroes and before The Phantom Pain.

>Skull Face and XOF attack Mother Base in the Caribbean
>Big Boss enters his coma
>Skull Face is stripped of power and relocated to Africa where he discovers the vocal cord parasites
>Skull Face attacks Zero with a variant of the parasite and usurps control of Cipher
>The Phantom Pain begins

Is that right, or did I fuck it up?

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I fucking love MGS V. It was so good, it killed gaming for me.

>>379043262
Hes not smoking the ecig ingame for please, but for the mission. It's shown INGAME that he smokes cigars. Watch the birthday scene

>>379043615
Stop writing your own fucking narrative and kill yourself
>>379041620

>>379043529

everything is still a dream and ocelot is jesus and will usher a new age of light vs dark which introduces Silent Hills.

>>379043616
fuck you nigger

there's literally nothing to suggest that Ishmael is not Ocelot. it's also easily conceivable that Paz on motherbase is fucking Ocelot, he's one of the only people who acknowledges that she was there.

Mind you, you continue to make the mistake that whatever Venom is seeing is "accurate" and not just manipulated suggestions from THE world class manipulator and master of the mind. Who's had you in his little petri dish for nine years.

The real CIA was able to develop people who could be "activated" and perform tasks when they hear words, phrases, etc etc

>>379043657
The parasite were an experiment by zero that skullfaces department was running. Zero abandoned the project but Skullface secretly carried it on. PW happened. Skullface got Paz, Paz told him Zeroes location, the tape regarding The Sorrows pin happens then PP begins

>>379043127
warrior

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MM1lhMSRoc

hmmm mmhmmmmm

MMMMMMMMMM MMMM

>>379043808
The sooner you realise that you can make anybody seem to be anyone in this shitfest of a story, the better. People believed Chico was Quiet. People didnt believe Medic was Venom. You could put all the MGS characters onto a wall, throw two darts and make some BS story that seems feesable as to why they are the same person

>>379024858
I never understood why a bigger deal wasn't made between Ocelot and Skullface. Ocelot is one of Cipher's top agents even if he's a fake and Skully just fucked with his waifu, why doesn't Ocelot have any real grudge against him? It didn't have to be Kaz's level of deranged, but some emotion about it would have made sense.

>>379041927
>He flew there in an approved helicopter and he flew back.
what

>>379044047
Because ocelot was under hypnosis i guess. He probally didnt want to be outed that he was a double (triple?) agent for cipher infront of people like Kaz who already disliked him

>>379044045
Stop pretending that Ocelot is not Ishmael.

>>379044047
Because Skullface does not exist. Ocelot is the one controlling the parasite program and Venom is literally chasing paper ghosts and playing house on an oil rig for daddy Ocelot.

>>379044121
DONT YOU SEE?? MOROHO WAS OCELOT ALL ALONG!

>>379043808
That whole thing with Paz was just some wierd hallucination from the shrapnel combined with the memory hypnosis Ocelot did to him while he was in a coma. Soldiers comment on Venom visiting an unfinished part of the medical section an awful lot

>>379044202
>leave my fanfiction alone!
How long till you turn turbo fag and create a trip thinking your special like Caramel?

>>379044121
He was cleared to land, right in the middle of the helipad, just like XOF. But XOF does not exist, Big Boss' special unit which was stationed at Camp Omega DID exist.

Venom is chasing an evil that does not exist, while playing the role of the man who has played some of that Evil's parts.

>>379044339
You try to land in the helipad, you get shot at

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>>379043604
>poofy
Barely.

>Clark Kent
You couldn't have chosen a worst example even if you tried.

>Bruce Wayne
Ultra rich guy.
>Batman
Gigantic quantities of state of the art gadgets.
Mhm...

>>379044045
Which franchise has more dudes who are actually other dudes, Kingdom Hearts or MGS?

>>379044481
KH easily. MGS 90% of the time is shitty fanfictions that are denied by Kojima

>>379044045
>People didnt believe Medic was Venom.

It's called Phantom Pain.

But I unironically believe V was brilliant in its concept. Korosawa did it with Kagemusha, even Kishimoto did it with Madara and Obito.
The point of BB was that he was so awesome, he inspired someone to be as good and at times better than him. A perfect copy that had an identical mind and focus.

>>379044439
Venom's "memory" of the mission "infilitration" of Camp Omega carried out by "Big Boss", you mean?

There was no infiltration.

>>379043657
Yes.

>>379044474
Go ahead and look at Ishmael's body. I'd sure you'll be embarrassed when you realize Ocelot's arms are the same size.

>>379040838
>One of the prisoners talks about a man who he cannot remember the face of, but who uses a direct quote by Big Boss from peace Walker.
Link?

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>>379043661
MGSV killed any sort of hype I could develop for videogames.
It was my Spore

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Death Stranding is Silent Hills.
TPP has one more ending where we revisit Camp Omega.
The real MGS5 has not yet been released.
Kojima was never fired.

>>379044650
OCELOT IS ISHMAEL

ULTIMATE PROOF:

The man on fire attacks the hospital in Cyprus. Why? Because Ocelot is the one who ended up with the Philosopher's Legacy, which was Volgin's birthright.

>>379044537
Not sure about the identical mind part. The real Big Boss knows way more languages and goes into long winded rants masterbating to pistols

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You guys may actually develop some kind of mental illness over this. Some of you already did. Seek help asap.

>>379044537
Puty hackjima didnt finish the game

>>379044573
There was also no big boss. It was just Ocelot running round hypnotising everyone to believe he exists

>>379044834
HE HAS BEEN SUMMONED

>>379045003
The only instance of REAL Big Boss dialogue is the opening of GZ where BB suggests killing Paz.

>>379044650
Okay, lets ignore that he has bigger shoulders.
Body types are a thing, faggot.

>>379043127
>What would be Big Boss's emotion on battle?
Loss.

>>379044537
>identical mind and focus
I wouldn't say "identical". Venom is an idealised version of BB, loyal, compassionate, just. BB wasn't like that by the time GZ starts.

>>379044834
Caramel! Would you like to comment about the other retard in this thread?
>>379044902

>>379043127
>What would be Big Boss's emotion on battle?
Autism

>>379044784
sim games were never my thing but i always feel bad for people who were excited for spore... it could happen to any game

>>379045212
sure thing cuck

>>379044834
Can you prove that Kojima Productions is not listed as a private company? Because I certainly can.

>>379045323
You know you win an arguement when the poor loser throws memes at you

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>>379045323

>>379044834

AW YEAH HE'S BACK BABY

What is Caramel's timezone?

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Tell me about Caramel. Why does he copy/paste?

>>379044834
oh hell yes

>>379045589
The NEET timezone.

>>379045279
Peace Walker is the turning point for the whole character of Big Boss. From MGS3 to the end of peace walker he's pretty much just Solid Snake sr . and hates the title of Big Boss, but at the end of peace walker he tosses that bandana into the sea and basically gives up on everything he believed forsaking The Boss for laying down her gun.

>>379045742
and then he started working with the US gov again

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Rusefags are Fable and Spore fags go wrong, as in instead of focusing your autism into rage you focus it into mental gymnastics.
I have only pity for you.

Redpill me on Caramel
Is he Norman Reedus?

>>379044474
The worst thing about this Ocelot is his stupid fucking meme gun. Especially since there's normal revolvers in the game.

>>379045291
It's just an autist shitposting for some (you)s.

>>379045880
Yeah, BB would have gone to work for an organisation known to toss any asset they have in the garbage if they find no use for it.
Really goes along with his mentality in Zanzibar Land.
>>379045990
The Mateba is a really cool gun, fuck off.

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>>379046165
It's not a Mateba, you stupid fuck.

>>379045990
>>379046165
I didn't care much for that big fat revolver Ocelot had simply because it's inconsistent with MGS1 and 3. Why wouldn't he use the same gun from MGS3

>>379044537
Venom was different imo until the end. Once ocelot abandons him, kaz obviously turned him into some sort of piece of shit and left, hence the demon symbolism and anger once he punches the mirror when he's reflecting in an isolated room. What better way to get back at big boss and ocelot than to turn "him" into a revenge ridden warmongering monster

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>>379046373
They couldn't use the actual asset and name of the gun because they didn't waste money on the licenses, but the gun is based on the Mateba, retard.

>>379033281
Kazuhira 'Fulton a nigger and i'll use the trigger' Miller

>>379046578
No licenses for it.

>>379046585
>What better way to get back at big boss and ocelot than to turn "him" into a revenge ridden warmongering monster
Ah, so Zanzibar wasn't BB either, right?
Retard.

>>379046720
Zanzibar hasn't been revealed at this point you fruit cake. All the world knows is that outer heaven is run by some fucking terrorist and snake is sent in to kill him(die). As far as America goes, venom is bad. Don't act holier than thou when you don't even know what the fuck you're talking about

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>>379046610
I just fucking showed you the gun the Uragan/Tornado is based on, the Russian RSh-12, and you ignored it like the blind idiot that you are. In addition, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about because you don't have to pay to use the likeness of a gun, only trademarks.

>>379046671
See above.

>>379046671
>licenses
>for a gun that's over 100 years old

Stop being a retard.

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Shame Metal Gear is dead.

>>379047115
It's a lot better if you just pretend it ended with POOPS.

>>379046881
This. If these games were coming out in canon timeline, post TPP, snake would have no knowedge about venom other than whatever the government is feeding him about venom being a terrorist. Kaz isn't in 1 so it's not far fetched to say he's a patriot whore by then who has already sold venom out.
The problem lies with the metal gear games is that theyre pretty barebones when it comes to story, so everything is pretty much left to interpretation and assumption off of what little is in mg1 and 2.

>>379046881
Then Snake kills him, and BB gets outed as said terrorist.
Why would he then become a monster worse than Venom was in Outer Heaven?

>>379047115
It isn't, Konami are announcing a new game for the 30th anniversary

>>379047284
>Wanting another game

If anything it will just be Survive bullshit.

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>>379024178
really makes you think

https://youtu.be/KG2xiP0PHk0?t=30

>>379047179
That's why there needs to be a game set between MG1+2 or something, maybe you play as Gray Fox and recruit Zanzibar Land Forces or something.

>>379046881
>>379047179
Replying to yourself as if you were another person.
Anon...

>>379024252
>wears a fuckin dollar store hamburglar mask
I just called him bonehead.

>>379047343
now that explains that awkward silence in the original cut.

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>>379047284
Doubt it.

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>>379047398

>>379044784
Same for me. I was so extremely hyped for the game, then it was decent, but shit story-wise and in comparison. Then the whole conspiracy stuff came, with ROMs being hidden in the code and lensflares and so on, but in the end, nothing came of it.

>>379047525
I never noticed how easy it is to see the biker helmet that guy is wearing.

>>379046914
And your revolver is based on the Mateba design, so I am still right.
And the full name of the Tornado is Tornado 6, so yes, I am right.
>you don't have to pay to use the likeness of a gun
You have, which is why every game in the last 6 years has had either mirrored guns or changed the design a little so they could bypass paying the gun Jews.
>>379046973
I can't.
Another hypothesis is that he had already faked every gun in the MGSV arsenal so why bother with the SAA.

>>379047593
Nice edit.

>>379044834
Why isn't Death Stranding using the Fox engine then? explain that shit. Also, no, a game cannot use multiple engines at once.

>>379048049
>I'm wrong, but I'm still right
>I made up some shit in my head, but I'm right

You know how I know you're some European faggot that doesn't know shit about guns?

>>379047250
He was just building a free nation state for soldiers and arming it to the teeth with nukes and Metal Gear so he could have true sovereignty out of the patriots grip. He wasn't too bad, he took in child soldier orphans and rescued gray fox.

>>379048789
You've seen two trailers, both less than five minutes in length, using the Decima engine. Moron.

>>379048980
And he wanted to put the world in perpetual war, no biggie.

>>379049009
Yes? They are developing it using the decima engine under Sony. Don't tell me you believe that they created two trailers in another engine just to be part of some epic ruse.

>>379048903
Nice ad hominem.

>>379049124
Well they sure are fooling you.

>>379024178
How hard could you fuck it up

>>379049124
>Don't tell me you believe that they created two trailers in another engine just to be part of some epic ruse.
He does.
He also believes that making said trailers is free.

>>379049186
It costs a LOT of money to do this shit. THere is no reason at all to do this.

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>>379049294
Keep as talking as if you know about grown up things, little boy. Your "grown up" perception of the world will soon be shattered.

>>379049096
It happened anyway after Snake stopped him and became a game run by machines. At least in the time of BB there was no "battlefield control"

>>379049449
>muh fans

Caramel......please stop. You're embarrassing yourself.

>>379049449
>na na na I CAN'T HEAR YOU
Grow up, you austistic piece of shit

>>379049493
Oh I don't care about things I already know.
I just wanted you to concede the point that both Venom and Big Boss are monsters.
And BB has no reason for it in your theory.
Anyway, you already proved yourself wrong way earlier in the thread when you showed the full power of your mental gymnastics.

>>379049565
The fan only exists in two locations of the game. The hospital and the end cutscene of Shining Lights. In Shining Lights it only exists during the cutscene, it does not spawn during gameplay. It's reality bleeding into the reality / VR simulation.

>>379049449
>Ceiling fan assets are indicators of anything
What is this level of mental retardation?
I remember talking to you when you still didn't had a name or a trip and you weren't this retarded, what happened m8?

>>379049936
Jesus, you're such a delusional faggot.

>That Riot Pistol from newest FOB bullshit
So, how small is the AoE on that goddamn thing?

>>379049449
>soon.
You mean E3?
And after that Comic Con, and after that VGA's and after that PSX's.
Right?

>>379050269
Wait there is a new update? What did they add?

>>379050373
They added tranquilizer pistol with about ~10 max ammo which causes sleeping gas AoE where you fire it.
Requires tons of GMP to research it.

>>379050531
What's the usage cost?

Should i replay mgs 3 /v/?

>>379050683
42330 GMP, 630 Biomaterials and 116 Wormwood for its first grade

>>379050714
Yes.
Only game of the saga that does camo right.

I know the Ismael is Ocelot guy is shitposting, but there is something that bothers me.

Ishmael clearly doesn't have Big Boss's face, and he appears to die multiple times in the prologue and come back unharmed.

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>>379050958
TPP isn't canon. It's a nightmare / VR simulation. Inconsistencies like that are just a hint.

Is phantom pain deliberately designed to be as bad as possible? I mean it removed literally everything i liked about mgs and filled it with.....nothing.

>>379024178
So, khm. I WAS BORN IN A SMALL VILLAGE...

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Why does Big Boss's face fit Solid but not Liquid?

>>379051027

If that was their intention, they did a fine job, because I actually fell for it this time.

2 and 4 were clearly designed to shit on the player.

>>379024402
Shinkawa always had a bit of a sameface thing going on, you can see it through most of his art. characters have the same mouths and eyes. not to mention those big eyelashes.

but at the same time, didnt Skullface got burnt the hell up when he was a kid? (although that could have changed mid-development)

>>379050958
Those guys are other patients, they are different from Ishmael on the straps they wear on their hands.
You also can see Ishmael get into that room before XOF firing if you pay enough attention.
He is also wearing a mask.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrL7wo5-nJo

who here /GZ fanboy for life/

i genuinely enjoyed it more than TPP, that is not to say TPP was a worse game.

>>379051490
Yes. I wish every mission in phantom pain was like ground zeroes. No open world. Good designed map and perfect blend of cutscenes and gameplay.

>>379051005
Both of those are pre crash.

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>>379051574
You were saying? :)

>>379051382

It's been a while since I played, but I clearly remember one moment where he walks down a hallway and gets shot in the head right in front of you without anyone else around.

I could just be misremembering, but I know both me and my cousin pointed it out when it happened.

>>379051564
Weather effects that last more than 5 seconds are nice.

>>379051751
No, that never happens.

>>379051614
Except that's not a 100% match to the other pic and in the other pic, it's blood, not a burn.
You were saying?

>>379051174
SUPERIOR GENES

>>379052297
Burn appears when he collapses against the wall.

100% match.

>>379051564
>>379052072
I'll say it once and only once.

GZ is what TPP should have been, but bigger and better. Instead TPP had almost a completely different feel compared to GZ.

>dude let's just mgs into shitty assassin's creed light!

fuck kojima. i am glad he got fired

>>379052495
My other question is why would you discuss something from a trailer made when GZ and TPP were the same project?

This. Contained missions in s smaller but varied and densely packed map would have made TPP more enjoyable to play.

>>379024178

Soldiers.... FOREIGN soldiers

>>379052841
>>dude let's just mgs into shitty assassin's creed light!
What is this assortment of buzzwords?

>>379053046
>>379052558

>>379052960
You fail to see the major repercussions if anything ever suggests the GZ helicopter never crashed. The whole reason TPP exists is because of the crash.

>>379041927
>It is unlikely that Chico or Paz were really "kidnapped" and there was never an infiltration by Snake
So why does Ground Zeroes even exist?

>>379053046
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTejOg9_T5w

Good 8 minute video on Ground Zeroes level design.

>>379053187
kys faggot

>>379033281
Kazuhira "If its black dont fulton it back" Miller

>>379053187
Thing is, I don't care about your fan fiction.
I only care about Kojima's badly written fan fiction.

>>379053672
I'm posting evidence that proves TPP did not happen but you continue to ignore it.

the russ is true bois...

>>379034267
You have to open in new tab on a computer. My android browser couldnt handle the file size and wouldn't zoom it in.

>>379053247
vr simulation

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I, too was hurt by MGS V, /v/... but I moved on. Why can't you?

Don't you see? Your ruse will never end. E3, then GDC, then an unrelated ARG, then Sony Conference, then the next E3...

This ruse you're on about. It will never end. Don't let the Phantom Pain consume you...

>>379053776
>everything I don't like plot-wise is a VR simulation
>Kojima has been rusing the world for FIVE YEARS with plot-irrelevant VR simulations

>>379026173
yep, Yong is a pretentious fuck

>>379044902
Technically Ocelot could lay claim on the legacy through his bloodline too.

>>379039289
His motivation is that MGS V is an incomplete mess that had to be wrapped up in a sudden crunch time, so his original character development's replaced with a rudimentary "I'm mad and sad" plot.

>>379039289
>>379054127
He was so interesting in Ground Zeroes. MGSV with that stupid mask he had now was such a disappointment.
Honestly I can't think of even a single part of MGSV's story that wasn't a disappointment.

>>379042291
She stands in front of your hospital bed and says to the radio "Not yet, the patient in the next bed saw my face". After saying that, she proceeds to come kill you rather than the real Big Boss. So the "patient in the next bed" is you, she knows who the real one was.

>>379054209
Paz's side story was pretty good and what gave me hope about Silent Hills (all the ques right there about guilt, body horror and mindfuckery)

>>379053750
Your "evidence" proves nothing since the blood on his face was scrapped from the final scene, which is yes, pre crash.

>>379053972
It hurts brah, but we got to much emotional investment, we can't go back. But E3 is where it ends, if there's no reveal at E3 it just means there wasn't a ruse to begin with.

8 more days anon... we have to hold on to hope for 8 more days

>>379054452
see
>>379051614
you never see Boss with the wounds aside from the images I posted.

>>379054416
The unfinished plotline dealing dilemma Snake, Miller and Ocelot faced with rehabilitating the child soldiers and Eli seemed interesting too.

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>>379054571

That is exactly my plan, I can't come away from E3 dissapointed because I'm going to see more of DS, and maybe MGsurvive

Im receptive to having some amazing event happen that blows my mind or gives me more metal gear V content but if nothing like this happens at this E3, I am moving on and just looking forward to DS and MGS in there own right

Ive been on this ruise cruise for to long, 8 more days is all I have left to give it, and ill fill that void with Death Stranding hype exclusively

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>>379054571
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7FfFE-_AuU

>>379038781
He's right though, that's a childish way to prove a point

>>379054571
You are Caramel aren't you?

>>379033281
Kaz "if its black dont fulton it back" Miller

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What became of him?

>>379055886
fish food

>TPP came out
>Didn't read internet until I've finished it and formed my opinion. Loved it and I believe it ended nicely and I don't have problems with minor plot inconsistencies
>Go on the internet, see delusional retards searching for "Chapter 3" and haters screaming that it's the worst game ever

Bitches, get over it.

>>379056068
>minor plot inconsistencies
>minor

play the game again kid

>>379056182
>if I'll call him a kid he'll understand that he's wrong

>>379041294
>with ocelot
kaz is the one who knew about the devil's house in peace walker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBa_QLqYjqY

>>379055409
Nah, brother. I am but one of the Candyman's apostles.

>>379056068
I kept up with all the latest news and still enjoyed it.
Chapter 2 being what it was came as a bit of a shock until I realized that defeating Sahalanthropus and killing Volgin was the end of the main game and everything after that was post-game content. once I realized that it made sense and my enjoyment wasn't diminished

Thread theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUDcSeUvkOw

So what's with the number sequence in the PT demo?

>>379057587
>204863 are co-ords to the bermuda triangle (gz helicopter crash) and iceland (ds trailer location)

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>>379055886
He became Ryan Gosling

>>379055162
does anyone wanna explain this???

>>379055162
where is that footage of reedus coming from?

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>>379024178
>>379024178
what the f*ck will you all cringelords be doing once E3 is over and you're proven that there is no fucking ruse? will you just be like "lol the ruse WAS the theories of use thinking there was a ruse omg kojima u so good!!!!" and keep jerking to this?

>>379055162

No one cares about your crappy game, Kojima.

>>379055162
SLEEPWALKER

>>379057840
we'll just stop posting about it entirely and deny our detractors the satisfaction of interacting with our displeasure

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>>379057849

>>379057774

Walking dead game maybe?

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>>379057996
THE SOMNAMBULIST
HE SLEEPS
IN THE CABINET
OF DOCTOR CALIGARI

>>379057774
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeadQvDTOiI

>>379058103
The only walking dead game that features Reedus looks nothing like that.

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Gotta keep Diamond Dogs fed. (you only see this cutscene when you 100%)

>>379058412
disgusting. even off-brand margarine would be better

>>379033281
Kazuhira "speak in ebonics and I'll go demonic" Miller

>>379040732
>>379040942
I think it was highly intentional. You can notice a drop in quality even in the voice direction.

>>379033281
Kazuhira "they call me 'Miller' 'cause I grind up niggers" Miller

>>379033281
Kazuhira "what's black, blue and red all over" Miller

>>379033281
Kazuhira "don't kill the kids, they've got years to suffer yet" Miller

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h-hey guys, do you like my /out/door clothes?

>>379033281
Kazuhira "Boss, even conservationists don't want us to save niggers" Miller

>>379046914
>>379048049
MGSV is factually void of licensed real life weaponry, I don't understand the reason for dispute.

>>379059032
paint your fucking walls

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>>379058515
A true weapon to surpass metal gear.
(When you get 100%, this secret boss appears.)

>>379055162
are we gonna pretend this isn't weird?

>>379059438
it's a fan thing. ripped models from PT (reedus is in his leather jacket from the end cinematic in PT) and some filters with distorted audio makes everything seem wacky. a bunch of these show up every time someone thinks kojimas up to something.

>>379059665
thank you for relieving my psychosis

>>379059438
>>379058223

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>>379054452
>>379054573
Before Paz explodes, he has a clean face.
Right after, you see him like this.

Quick! Post your code name!

>Battered Seal

>>379060117
>Tactical Geco

Such a sadness that Caramel don't have balls to stream e3 with his webcam on, so we would see his happy face when his theory will be confirmed.

>>379060191
With his level of psychosis it's probably due to the waist deep garbage he lives in.

>>379060175
Gecko*