>2017 >he bought a full tower case for his single gpu build

I did

I need room for my six drives.

fight me u lil bitch

i bought a mid tower because i'm a regular person

>He buys a new case for every build

>>379014556
id rather not have an ugly ass case and have something mildly appealing. and still not spend more than 80 dollars :^)

>>379014556
Sorry for wanting proper cooling and more than 2 drive slots.

if i bought a prebuilt could i still upgrade it? lookin at a pc with a 1050 and i'd probably want to replace that gpu with a 1080 or some shit in the future.

or would i have to build a pc from the ground up?

don't give me any bullshit like "durrhurr don't buy prebuilts anyway" because i don't fucking care

>micro atx motherboard
>XL ATX case

fight me.

>>379014816
of course you can. why wouldn't you?

>>379014816
You can upgrade a prebuilt. The reason people say to build your own PC is because a prebuilt is just someone selling you a PC they built at a huge markup, there's no difference.

So if you buy a prebuilt, nothing will prevent you from upgrading it.

>>379014816
what's your psu nigga

>>379014658
>>379014809
buy higher volume drives or run a nas you thick cunts

>>379014803
Yeah your shitty giant monolith of a tower sure isn't ugly, or a complete fucking eyesore.

>>379014956
What if I want a proper cpu cooler?

>>379014956
It's not buying anything bigger than 6TB right now, so I need multiple drives.

Why the fuck would I have a NAS setup for one PC?

>hurr durr have one small PC and then another box for your drives, the total of which take up the same amount of space as a normal sized PC

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>>379015074

>>379014993
nice counter argument, fag. youre the definition of "stop liking things i dont like"

>>379015163
Red pill me on GPU fans facing an inch away from the floor or desk

>>379014956
>Buy higher volume
There's more than 10TB drives commercially available already?

>>379015163
what if I don't want to pay a lot of money for a restrictive case the size of a shopping bag

>caselets

>>379014556
enjoy that overheating

>>379015163
>want to buy a new gpu
>it doesn't fit

>>379015124
>majority of people need 12tb
all these fuckhuge towers are obsolete for 95% of gamers

>>379014906
prebuilts aren't so bad anymore, the "never buy prebuilts" thing came from when a gaming prebuilt typically had way overkill CPU and piece of shit GPU and was also overpriced but you don't see that anymore

>>379015479
Ok, but I was answering why I specifically need a larger tower.

>>379015163

>graphics card facing downwards
>heat tends to go upwards
>PCB heats faster and the pins desolder faster

Idiot

>>379014816
>don't give me any bullshit like "durrhurr don't buy prebuilts anyway" because i don't fucking care
It all depends on the store, like a prebuilt computer is the exact same thing as building it yourself. Only problem is that bad stores overprice and have bad parts in their prebuilt computers. But if you just do a tiny little bit of research you can see if it's a good computer or not.
Most stores even let you choose and pick your components yourself.

>>379015124
Not him and I understand your point but since I run my own seedbox I found it better to have my NAS separate so I wasn't using computing resources and lagging everything to shit. It was like night and day getting my NAS and freeing up all those cycles. Plus I can stream to my tablet which is great for watching anime.

>>379015505
Enjoy your trash mobo and psu.

>>379014556
Nice airflow you retard

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>>379015272
negligable rise in temps, can still manage decent oc, even better if you throw gpu and cpu underwater
>>379015289
then don't. large cases will always have a place for someone, but that doesn't mean that all these new builds aimed at gaming should need a fuckhuge tower.

>>379015914
But Anon, where will I put all of my LEDs?

>>379014556
Was gonna try SFF for my most recent build but all the combined factors caused it not to pan out.

>Want to overclock
>Now you need to get a SFF mobo that also has reasonable overclock capability
>Now you need measurements and also check forums that your dumb huge coolers will fit
>SFF cases cost MORE than regular towers despite obviously having lower material cost
>cables fucking stuffed in a tiny case that is already unpleasant to work with

>>379015625
have you seen a computer before, gpus always face downwards

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>>379014556
Enjoy thermal throttling.

>>379014556
[fan noises intensify]

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>>379015460
>implying
>>379015625
blower cooler will help draw how air but thermals overall are perfectly fine. You don't need a massive case to keep your components cool.

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>>379016103
lol wut

>>379015904
both of which are upgradable, unless they're proprietary and tied to the case or something.

otoh, getting a prebuilt to swap the mobo and/or psu seems rather silly.

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Mid tower is barely big enough.

>>379016373
wow, you showed me

What's a good $150 graphics card that none of you will make fun of either presently or within a few years.

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>>379014842

Mini ITX is so cute and I want my next build to be one. Are there any AM4 socket MITX motherboards yet? I couldn't find any on the site I normally use for PC parts

>>379016487
It's a joke man lighten up.

>>379016276
>>379016103

The heat from the Graphics Card goes straight to the cpu heat sink.

>>379016373
>WD Purple

Just watch that power supply and you're good

>>379016494
570 if you can find it in stock

>>379015914
>He bought a full tower case
>well actually sometimes it makes sense
So you're just pretending to be retarded then? You're aware manpurse cases don't work for everyone and still try to push them on everyone?

>>379016464
What's with the shoebox at the bottom?

>>379016576
only one out right now is biostar. It's alright but i'd wait for other manufacturers to put out their boards in a month or so.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138452&cm_re=am4_itx-_-13-138-452-_-Product

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>>379014556
But I did

>>379014816
this is exactly what i did

pc came with a r7 250 2gb so i swapped it with a gtx 1060

i also changed the power supply because the one it came with was apparently shitty, so watch out for that

>>379016821
I'm guessing it's supposed to isolate the power supply, and any heat it generates.

>Got a full tower for ease of working around in
>Doubles as a small desk
Living the dream.

>>379016773
only makes sense if you actually need the extra pcie slots or more than 10tb of storage. The majority of people don't need that, sli isn't worth the extra price premium/power consumption for such shitty support.

>>379016773
https://www.ramblingware.com/blog/mini-pcs-will-replace-desktops

>>379014556
I just like having the extra room when I build, and most full towers look better than their mid or sff counterparts.

>>379016773
you're not even paying a price premium for the form factor anymore. Sure you'll have the ncase and the dancase but it's only a matter of time for fractal or silverstone to imitate the design and put out their own version of it. node 202 is $70, sg13 is $40 and coolermaster elite 1xx cases are around $30. More and more sfx PSUs are being released, the corsair sf series is rated for gold efficiency but are actually capable of platinum efficiency in some cases.

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>>379016886
>volume of a midtower
>call it itx

>>379016597
hot air passing through the cpu heatsink doesn't make any significant difference in cpu temps, it's still able to dissipate heat adequately. If you're that worried about it then get an fe card.

>>379016464
you don't even have sli anymore

>tfw I was sweating too much when I built my PC
>My GPU got old and I want to upgrade, but too scared if I'll fuck it up and break something

What should I do?

>>379016373
I love this setup

>>379016373
What in the fuck?

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>>379014556
I did and the cooling is actually better than larger case thanks to the high pressure front fan. I no longer game as much as i did 10 years ago and it's running a 1050ti with 3 SSDs.

>>379015914
A normal tower case is very likely going to be the most cost-effective option, along with a mATX or ATX motherboard. There is no reason to go out of your way and likely pay more both for a tiny case and a fully-featured ITX mobo just to get a small computer if you're not extremely constrained in terms of available space or otherwise have a small PC fetish. I can see ITX being useful for shit like small HTPCs to fit in a TV cabinet or for builds like small home servers or dedicated routers, but there's no reason they should be the default go-to size for a gaming computer.

>>379014816
>>379014906
>>379015505
>>379015880

The "never buy prebuilt" idea came from the fact that almost all prebuilt pcs had proprietary sockets and cabling that specifically did prevent you from upgrading outside of that manufacturer's parts. Some things are still proprietary (such as motherboard pins that just plug directly into a case cable and will never let you switch the case without some splicing, which can be a problem if you try to switch to a wide profile GPU that doesn't fit), but for the most part you're safe buying prebuilts if you're okay paying the upcharge.

>>379016986
More like it's just for aesthetics since the case likely has a bottom intake for the PSU and the PSU exhausts straight out, so it won't affect temperature inside the case.

>>379015163
>>379014556
These look better than the shitty meme Prodigy ITX cases
>the Prodigy's like a fucking Mac Pro case

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spaghetti. Full atx is dumb.

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>mf after building with a B2 Spirit.

Full towers are convenient and easy to build with. I couldn't care less about it looking cool to other people.

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I had an employee discount at Microcenter. Why the fuck not?

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>when the 13 fans in my Antec 1200 roar to life

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>>379014556
I did.
with a tiny motherboard even

ITX builds are super cute in their little boxes.

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>>379016886
I went with the cube meme too, don't regret it though.

>mATX
>mid tower
Did I do good?

Im making a mini comp

whats a good cheap cube-case for my loli-computer build. ATX preferred but willing to give into the itx meme

>>379016373
so... this is... the power... of... cloud computing

pcpartpicker(.)cm/list/2THYYr

so this is my new build, replacing my old fx 8320. currently have an rx 480 right now, might be going to nvidia but i dont know if the upgrade would be worth it

>>379016373
*snip*
*snip*
*snip*

>>379016373
>floating-point computing

>>379014556
Nice airflow faggo

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>>379019251
you unscrew it, press down on a tab and pull it out. how fucking hard is that to do?

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Cloud computing is the future.

>CPU Temp: 95 degres
>GPU Temp: 104 degres

Im building my first monday when the last parts come in, what should I expect?

>>379019251
The gpu is the easiest thing to take out bro. Now taking off the heatsink on my cpu seems like a pain in the ass. Would have to take the whole motherboard out of the case.

>>379023245
To spend most of the day making sure everything is perfect and then the rest of the day doing a victory lap by installing a fresh operating system.

Just be sure not t

>>379014556
t. NEET /v/irgin who needs compact shit in his bedroom otherwise mom gets mad

>>379014816
Depends is it a prebuilt or "prebuilt"

That is is it built by a computer store with off the shelf parts or is a dell or Lenovo?

Mini case:
>much more expensive
>need special more expensive mobo
>need expensive PSU with better cooling
>need expensive CPU cooler
>still warmer

I get it, it looks cute. It's still dumb as fuck, imo.

>>379016821
Covers the PSU and HDDs so you have a clean interior for viewing pleasure

>>379016510
I know the anon that owns this computer posts on either /g/ or /v/, I always wonder what CPU he had and what he was doing with it that required such a huge push/pull radiator

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>>379023440
rip

>>379024117
I have a 360 rad for my CPU too. The reason is simply that when I was shopping around for loop parts I found it 2nd hand for very cheap, it's been doing an excellent job cooling my CPUs over the last ~7 years.

>>379024328
Fair enough, I can understand that.

>>379014556
nice over heating piece of shit with no water cooling lmao

>>379014556
What's a good mini-itx case that will let me use a decent sized cooler? I want to make a Ryzen mini-itx server but I want to make it as small as possible.

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>>379014556
>2017
>he still has a tower
>he doesnt have a computer integrated straight into his glasses or brain.

>>379014556
i've got a dual gpu build and its not even in a full tower. 3 drives and room for one more too.

>>379016494
wait until the end of july

all of the 500s cards are sold out because of retarded ethereum miners. Expect to see a large amount of used ones if the currency shits itself

>>379014556
is space so crammped that you need a micro atx case ever?

>>379014556
>he fell for the itx meme

enjoy your no airflow and easily overheated case with shitty wiring and annoying to swap out harddrives.

>>379014765
>he doesn't store every build safely in some closet for those "Wow It's 2017 and I wish I still had my win95 pc for those old games" situations

>>379014556
Mid tower actually

I'm thinking of upgrading my rig. Is an i7 7700k worth it?

>>379028262
If you only play games, yes, if you do other shit, a 1700/X/1800X would be more up your alley at that price range.

>>379014842
This, lel.

>>379023874
>much more expensive
what is fractal, cooler master, silverstone, or lian li?
>need special more expensive mobo
average itx z270 board with all the features you'd want anyway is just as expensive as its atx counterpart. The biostar AM4 x370 board is cheaper than a number of x370 atx/matx boards.
>need expensive PSU with better cooling
450w sfx gold can be had for the same as a 450w atx gold
>need expensive CPU cooler
stock ryzen coolers are actually competent compared to intel. If you aren't using an AIO, plenty of coolers can be had for around $30 offering 212 evo performance.
>still warmer
if that 5c difference is worth it to you then that's fine

>going to travel to the states for a month
>realize that there's no fucking way in hell I'm taking my tower case with me

God dammit I'm retarded. What options do I have for a micro ATX motherboard to make my PC more travel friendly next time? Or is travel with a Pc just not a thing no matter the form factor?

>>379028423
All your other lies aside, 5C difference is just a ridiculous claim. It's more like 10C.

>>379028531
You know this is the exact reason they invented laptops, right?

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>>379028628
4690k idle: 32
4690k load: 53
r9 290 idle: 37
r9 290 load: 84

if i can run one of the hottest cards in recent memory without it melting itself then you can run your much cooler pascal or polaris cards without issue.

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>>379014556
>he bought a meme case
apply yourself

>>379019251
how did you manage to build a PC if you're worried about doing a GPU swap? Like>>379023316 said swapping the heatsink is more of a pain.

>That feel when still using my old Cooler Master 690 advanced 2
The damn thing is totally made of steel and the tower weights around 35 pounds with everything inside.

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>>379014556
Its cheaper to buy a normal ATX/microATX case and mobo, also better airflow.
I know this because of my 2 previous mITX builds

>>379014556
How much does /v/ spend on their computer on average?

Yup I did. Working in medium tower isn't fun.

>>379028628
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352058&cm_re=node_202-_-11-352-058-_-Product
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA1N83ZP7361&cm_re=cooler_master_elite_130-_-11-119-286-_-Product
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163274&cm_re=sg13b-_-11-163-274-_-Product
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112372&cm_re=lian_li_mini_itx-_-11-112-372-_-Product

am4 itx
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138452&cm_re=am4_itx-_-13-138-452-_-Product

450w that reaches platinum efficiency
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story6&reid=483

cooler that matches 212 evo thermals in compact cases
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA66Z28G9560&cm_re=raijintek_pallas-_-9SIA66Z28G9560-_-Product

ncase thermals
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1431-page5.html

It's just not that practical for me honestly, I don't know how you guys do it

I've gone from one SSD and HD to now 3 SSD's and 4 HD's.

So 7 drive bays.

I'm not buying a whole other box just to do what my PC can easily do. For storage, to record, stream media to devices, games, music and what ever else.

My PC is constantly on. It has a spot next to my desk, which has 3 main screens and another small one. So space isn't an issue.

Why do you need to hide your little box away when you have a whole desk you probably use anyway?

Anyway, for me my PC has carried through years and I don;t mind it taking a little extra space for better functionality

>>379014556

I get a full tower because I like the space when building a computer, building a computer on that tiny ass faggy case looks awful.

>>379030007
Its a little awful if you don't get to build many computers, but very rewarding.

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>>379014556

>250 £

I'm good

>>379029915
I think you're downplaying the usefulness NAS hardware/software is

>>379031170

No, NAS is great.

But as I said, why would I get one when your PC can do the same?

Building a miATX then buying a NAS for more storage? Why? And what about games? NAS wont help with that.

You shooting your own foot really

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>>379021590
>cloud computing

I'm happy with mATX, thanks though

>>379031606
Why not? NAS is surely fast enough for gayming unless you're a turbo autist, plus if it's that much of a bother you can always use a 60/120GB in your NAS as a cache.

If your current set up suits you fine then thats cool, but NAS is a valid option for a lot of people especially if you want some kind of media hub without having to have your computer on 24/7. I certainly don't want my computer on that long seeing as it's in my room.