ITT: Games you're glad it flopped

>>379009374
>Being happy when a game that tries to do something different (even when it is derivative from other games) in the current gaming climate, and even does it competently, flops

/v/ truly hates videogames

>>379009859
>game that tries to do something different

Are you serious? there's loads of games like Prey

>>379009957
Give me five. Note how I'm saying "current" so don't post something like Ultima Underground.

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>>379010165
Lad, Prey did it horribly. also
>Give me five but with these exception
excellent argument, here's the better games than Prey

Bioshock
Deus Ex and HR
System shock
System shock 2

now go clean your shit taste

>>379009957
>loads of survival horror, personalized character powers/upgrades, free exploration, heavy reliance on ragdoll physics, non multiplayer focused games?

>>379010382
implying you have played system shock 1 or made any real progress in system shock 2.

sure faggot

>>379010382
I already played all of them; that's why I said Prey was derivative. And you still haven't answered my question. Where are those "lots" you talk about?

>let's reboot an IP that only a small group of people liked
>and then alienate that small group by making a completely different game
>what could go wrong?

It would have done better as a new IP.

>>379009374
Is it actually any good?

>>379010382
I've beaten all of those except system shock 1 which I haven't played and I just started prey last night. prey is better than all of them except maybe the first deus ex in terms of gameplay thoroughness. it's really great so far, especially in terms of story and atmosphere. you're trying hard to debase a game with very little ground to stand on. not even sure why

>>379010732
Retards at Bethesda probably purposely forced the prey name onto arkane. I wonder what the working title was?

>>379010753
not OP but I greatly enjoyed it. Probably worth it to do like 2 playthroughs, similar replay value to Dishonored 1 but I liked it more than either Dishonored.

>>379010753
Yeah, not sure why /v/ has such a bizarre hateboner towards the game. I love Japanese games, but the nippon dicksucking has reached new heights here, making everyone think any game released from the west is automatically trash

>>379010382
We've all played all of those games already. Multiple, multiple times.

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>>379010753
Out of the many here, I personally thought it was very enjoyable

>>379010753
i read through a bunch of prey threads before I started to see how people described it and they said it was a lot like a simpler system shock 2 in terms of creepy atmosphere and skills and the non linear progression, and they're right. it's really fun so far but I could see it becoming frustrating in terms of combat. the story is super intriguing and throws a twist on you in the first 30 minutes that sets the stage and mood for the rest of the game

>>379009374
fuck off m8 prey is gr8

>>379010382
>taunts someone for being precise
>shits on the request anyway
>does not even come up with 5 RECENT games after he said that " there's loads of games like Prey"
Are you really just dumb or are you trying hard to keep up appearances?
>bioshock
Yeah, you are genuine.

>excellent argument
He was not making an argument, faggot, he was asking you to back up your big mouth, which you failed to do, while flapping your gums a bit more.

Also, how are you able to judge someone´s taste from them saying that there are not many games like prey, which probably means that he played all those you listed, you retard.
That´s why he would have wanted prey to be successful, so that there would be more of them, imbecile.

>>379010863
Alien Shock.

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Sad. One of the best games in years and made by a quality studio. I remembered when Freespace 2 sold jack shit (~50,000 copies) one year after release, though Volition did survive and managed to release Red Faction 1 two years later.

>>379010382
How does Bioshock do anything near as identical as Prey and how do outdated games like System Shock 1/2 fit into the picture?

>>379010382
one of those games can be considered recent lol. One. barely.

>>379010382
5 released within the last 20 years.
Wow what an impressive list faggot.

>>379009374
>take niche but still profitable game
>hype people up years ago with a sequel in the works
>fuck over the studio so the game is never released
>dash all hopes by rebooting the niche franchise into something completely different from the original but still somehow generic
>doesn't attract fans of the original
>doesn't attract new players
>surprise it flops
well done bethesda

Looked like a boring story-driven game.

>>379009859
There are reasons I think. For one this game was barely advertised, people were probably still skeptical about the game after the quality of Dishonored 2's PC port, and there's the reason >>379010732 listed.

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Was Andromeda a failure? can seem to get a definitive answer on that one.

Yooka Laylee

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>>379011542

>>379010732
I really wonder why they plastered on the Prey name on to it. Was the IP's license time limited and Bethesda needed to use the name to keep the rights?

>>379010753
Yes, it is fairly open ended. You can visit many locations early, finish quests early through sheer dumb luck, kill NPCs and the interactions adjust accordingly, the game keeps track of what choices you make in some quests and so on.

I always see /v/ complain that they can't kill critical NPCs, but whenever games come out that allow for it they shit on it endlessly.

>>379011542
I'm sure that because it didn't sell millions like AAA fps #3883, EA considers it a flop

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>>379011761
aahhh. now thats justice.

>>379009374
There's no reason for 'it' to be in that sentence, third world nigger.

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>>379010382
>constant "it's not so bad guys" about Ubisoft clone games come out 4 times a year
>people on this board try and rehabilitate shit like COD
>games like Prey get shit because it's similar to something that came out like 10 years ago

Amazing

>>379012064
Well, it's relatively new. Wait for a few more years, I bet plebs will eat it up.

Why does /v/ hate this game so much? It's not even because it became popular either, it hasn't reached the acceptable level in the /v/ popularity gauge for contrarian mode to activate

>>379009374
I enjoyed it and I am on my second playthrough.

>>379013141

it's basically another system shock, and it's great. just proves that /v/ is largely casuals that just want to play corridor shooters.

>>379009374
I don't think you know what flop means. Combined with the console sales this game probably made its money back.

>>379013141
Because the pre-launch predictions here were that it was going to be complete shit, and people don't like to admit that they're wrong. Add in a healthy dose of buttblast over Prey 2 being canned and you have yourselves some angry fedora enthusiasts.

im a girl btw

>Dishonored 2 flops
>Prey flops even harder

So Bethesda are going to disband Arcane, aren't they?

>>379013648

Prove it, post a timestamped picture of your penis.

>>379013625
So will the board consensus gradually change like with nuDoom?

>>379013141
I don't know, honestly. The sequel to the original Prey that was canned in favor of what we got looked good, but the original never was such a success that so many people would be sad about the sequel's termination. C'est la /v/.

Originally I assumed they turned Prey into another walking simulator, but it's actually great they did not. I will probably pick it up when it's on sale.

>>379013801
>post a timestamped picture of your penis
meta?

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>>379009374
go enjoy CoD part 25 then.
fucking idiot.

>>379012847
It cost Bioware a support studio, maybe now they will realize that fucking nobody likes this easily digestible quippy trash that doesn't take it self seriously

Hitman did so bad it killed the studio. Wish that happened to Diablo 3.

>>379009859
>tries to do something different
>it's a System Shock 2 spiritual sequel you guys, but actually more of a Bioshock and worse in every way
Yeah, sure Harvey.

>>379013961
>The sequel to the original Prey that was canned in favor of what we got
Wrong. Arkane was already developing this and it was meant to be called Typhoon, Bethesda just decided to use the Prey name on it.

>>379014261
What makes it more like Bioshock?

>>379013141
Original Prey 2 just looked a whole lot better, can't help but be bitter when all this information about what the story was going to be and the reason why the game was canned comes to light

>>379014073
but CoD part 14 does not look that bad

>>379014261
>it's a System Shock 2 spiritual sequel you guys, but actually more of a Bioshock and worse in every way
It's better than Bioshock in every way expect maybe art design.

>>379014073
Hmm, haven't heard that vitriol for almost 10 years now and it keeps popping up on Prey threads, I wonder what outside group could have an interest in weaponizing it.

>>379011398

Basically. Who the *fuck* did they think Prey 2 was for?

>>379014472
That makes the hate even more irrational desu.

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>>379014564
It hurts me on a spiritual level that people like this exist.

>>379014575
You haven't heard people complain about CoD since 2007?

>>379010382
>System Shock
>current

>>379010753
no, gameplay is shit.

>>379014702
Bioshock is awful, you should kill yourself.

>>379010382
>not a single game from the last 5 years

>boo hoo it's not my open world space cowboy fetch quest game

Fuck off, we have enough open world shitfests. It wasn't even up to Bethesda's non-existent standards and those fucks released Rogue Warrior so you just know Prey 2 was complete garbage.

>>379010382
I have finished all of those games several times now. There's no fun in doing yet another run.

>>379011761
>>379011542
this so much, honestly I wish any unnecessary "sequel" to a franchise that pretty much ended flops hard, as its just copying the worst thing that hollywood/television is infected with

>>379015146
>>It wasn't even up to Bethesda's non-existent standards
>he thinks that's the reason Prey 2 got canned
don't be a dumbass.

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>>379009374
>no demo
>expect pc players to front $60 just to try it and pray for a refund
No buy.
in fact, I pirated it and played it to completion out of spite. It's a 6/10.

What do any of you gain by Prey flopping? Not only will that never bring back Prey 2, but there is even less of a chance that it could ever come back now that the name is marked with failure. How many of you actually played it? How many of you are old enough to remember the games you compare it to?

>>379015709
Because at least prey won't continue as the shitfest they released.

>>379009859
>tries to do something different
>Immediately called a "half-life copy" "bioshock copy" etc. by everyone

>>379015709
Arkane's output is mediocre and their fans are insufferable kids trying to appear sophisticated by bashing le wrong generation games and namedropping games from before they were even born in anonymous cantonese script imageboards. Essentially the dadrockers of videogames.

>>379015945
>tries to be a "spiritual successor to system shock"
>instead is far more close to fucking bioshock and gets called a copy of that because it is
lmao

>>379016618
Nice projection, kid.

>>379016618
old fag here, Arx Fatalis is absolutely not mediocre. Even Dark Messiah has enough interesting things in it to elevate it past mediocre.

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>>379009374
Good riddance.

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>>379010382

>bioshock

>a better game

>laughing hybrids

>>379016849
>>379014490

>>379011761
I have never been so proud to have bought a game used before in my entire life. Rest in piss, Bioware.

Reminder Morgan's brother did nothing wrong

>>379017495
play with the weapons for a bit and you see blatant similarities in gunplay and upgrade system for one

>>379010382
Prey stands on the shoulders of System Shock 2 as it's best imitator. Bioshock is babby shit comparatively.

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Prey is GOTY. Also completely unplayable in its current state on PS4, which makes it even better

>>379010753
Yeah, it's pretty good. It's like all the other System Shock 2 imitators, but there's no god damn "get to new section, all the doors lock in your fucking face" syndrome to deal with. You find keys and use your skills at your own pace to open up the ship for the most part. Hell, I'm on my second run and I was able to max out hacking, lifting, and repairing before grabbing the first general access keycard. BEFORE the general access keycard.

>>379019015
Oh, but definitely play the game on the hardest difficulty or maybe one harder than you would be comfortable with. The enemies aren't so scary if they can't cause a ton of damage because their designs are very uninspired. Biggest weakness of the game.

>>379017628
I agree If feels like Alex gets the majority of the flak but I think Morgan deserves at least as much

>>379010863
Typhoon/Typhon
I forget which

>>379014182
That's funny because ME games are all like that.

>>379010863
I want to say it was Station Shock, for whatever reason I think I remember hearing that somewhere.

>>379009374
Why would you be glad something people worked on on didn't do well?
What a tiny life you have.

>>379015698
>out of spite

What an entitled piece of shit. You need to be culled.

>>379021676
the devs are just as entitled, expecting money from mediocre work

The Order 1886

>>379016618
This is the worst reason to hate anything ever. No fanbase is as annoying as you

>>379014702
Prey has 10x the depth of bioshock, and that is a fact. Bioshock was never good

>>379010382
Wow, Prey is similar to games released 2 decades ago. What a derivative piece of shit it is.

>>379010753
Solid 8.5 out of 10.

Had some interesting side objectives, I wasn't surprised to learn that Chris Avellone worked on the writing for the game after I finished it.

>>379009859
>/v/ truly hates videogames
/v/ is 30% politics threads, stealth or otherwise, 10% furry threads, 45% shitpost threads like this, and 10% generals which should go to /vg/. The remaining 5% are legitimate video game threads which actually discuss games. Those 5% if left alive long enough, however, will turn into one of the other 95% due to sheer volume of garbage posts.

>>379019191
I found the game quite challenging on hard. Although I did put all my early neuromods into non combat abilities.

>>379022809
Did it ever come to a point where you had more neuromods than you could ever want? I kind of felt like I had everything I wanted by time I hit the crew quarters and the rest was just fluff.

>>379014494
Single teaser with cg about anthropomorphic aliens .. oh wow, so much better. Fucking nostalgia jerkoff

>>379015698
But there was demo. Nigger

>>379023195
Yeah definitely. I was unlocking powers I didn't even use by the end of the game.

>>379024050
This is done for casuals and their 8 hour runs. My first playthrough on hardest was 37 hours. From little shit to 1hit god. But after so much time there is nothing left for me in prey story wise.

200,000 people playing a game means it's flopping? In what universe?

>>379010382
>haha, just let me use this list of games /v/ will be sure to enjoy, then I'll really fit in xD
Your casual is showing for posting BioShock instead of BioShock 2, faggot.

>>379024917
/v/ doesnt like seeing games they dont like do well

>>379024917

In AAA land where anything less than 10 million copies sold is an unmitigated disaster.

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>>379024976
Yeah, but denying reality just makes you look like a fucking retard.

Reminds me of when I was on /tv/ back when Inception came out, and some tripfag was obsessed with the idea that somehow it was a huge financial failure despite all evidence to the contrary.

>>379025102
I don't know if I'd count Prey as a AAA game 2bh familia.

>>379025274

It's the logic that a good deal of /v/ operates on regardless.

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>>379009374
>nu-/v/ hates system shock 3
>they overhype shit like persona or nier instead

what happened to this board?

>>379011761
>ME1-3 sold
It's a shame it took 4 games for people to realize ME is garbage.

>>379010753
It's good, but don't expect to make more than 35 hours on average for completing every quest.
Totally worth a play, not sure about when I will ever replay it.

>>379025861
infested with weebs

but again, /v has never been reliable when it comes to vidya, it's mostly a place to shitpost for newfags at this point

>>379022486
Prey's depth is fucking pointless because the combat is so easy.

Bioshock on max difficulty (the one in the 'remaster' makes you work HARD for your kills. Better use the right ammo. Better use headshots. Better always be stocked on Plasmids. Better not let that Rosie out of stun for a fucking attosecond or she's going to rip you to shreds.

>>379025861
>Prey is system shock 3
do not do this
System Shock 2 holds up great to this day, Prey is not the revival of System Shock don't be a contrarian

>>379010863
>Retards at Bethesda probably purposely forced the prey name onto arkane
This was exactly what happened. Bethesda doesn't actually own the Prey IP, they had to use it , or it reverts back to the original owners, who I think is whatever remnants are left of 3D Realms.

>>379026208
that's bullshit, SS2 is clunky as fuck nowadays and Prey has superior level design and gameplay overall.

SS2 has a better story but that's all

Prey is SS2 spiritual successor

>>379026125

>bioshock
>hard or requiring any brain power

Are you saying that maxing out wrench requires skill?

>>379009859
It's not different in the slightest.
>>379010382
>all these replies
Preyfags are the most rabid butthurt whiteknighting fanboys on /v/, holy fuck.

>>379026337
>Prey has superior level design and gameplay
Level design from a narrative perspective, maybe. I'll give Prey that, it's a believable enough space station. But holy fuuuuck, the game is easy and poorly paced as all hell. I played on Nightmare and every enemy in the game became fucking pathetic with basic resource management. SS2 ramps up the enemy variety and danger at the very least as you get your overpowered AR, Prey is consistent in braindead simplicity for most of the game - it just allows you options in how you do it.


>>379026370
Curious if you played Survivor mode on the remastered version, that was the last time I played the game. Rosies will curbstomp you if you don't cheese them or keep them in stun. At least hitscan enemies can get hits in without requiring the player to be a fucking moron.

>>379014835
I honestly don't think the poor sales of this game will change the future of the Paper Mario series. IIRC the Switch was announced like three days after Color Splash came out, so Nintendo didn't seem to care about sabotaging it.

http://www.nexusmods.com/prey2017/mods/1/?

>Ammo, weapons, grenades and other useful items have been removed from Typhon as loot drops. You will have to depend on what you scavenge from the environment and more importantly what you fabricate.

>Much fo the random useful loot (ammo, hypos, etc) on human bodies has been replaced with fabrication licenses so you will need to construct what you need it survive (or scavenge it from the hand placed items the devs have put around the levels.)

>Limited licensing has been restored. Now when you pick up a fabrication plan it gives you ONE license to fabricate ONE item. Some costs have been adjusted slightly to use more organic and exotic material which is not used very much in the base game (beyond PSI Hypos and Neuromods)

>Increases the overall skill cost and requirements of upper tier mods. Costs start around 1-2 neuromods more for the bottom tier abilities and ramp up to x2 - x3 for upper tier powers depending on how powerful they are.

Now I wanna replay NuPrey.

>>379010863
It was Project Danielle

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>>379009374
>publisher fucks over smaller devs and burns their original game in order to steal their ip just to exploit what little brand recognition it may have
>new game flops
It couldn't have gone any better, hopefully Bethesda lost money on it.

>>379029751
>danielle
who is this mystery bitch anyways

>>379009374
Prey is fun as fuck and looks nice though. What are you talking about?

>>379011218
Can games be outdated if they were the first to implement mechanics others rip from? Outdated is a meme as shitty as your tastes

I didn't even know it came out on its release date. Fucking thing had no advertisement. I only knew because of review sites.

>>379009374
Pic unrelated?

>game has only one gimmick
>gets tiresome in the first 30 minutes

hahaha

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>>379010382
>Bioshock

>Good

You kids have awful fucking taste, I even enjoyed Nu Prey more than any of the Bioshock games, it took a few hours for me to get into it, but at least Nu Prey can be played multiple times in different ways.

>>379011761
so mass effect took 10 years to make 2.91 million dollars wheras mass effect andromeda came out this year and has made almost a million already?

>>379030217
Inb4 you toddposting faggots, he was talking about bethesda's VP Todd Vaughn, not about the manlet

>>379030374
manlet

>game steals elements from other games
>makes them boring and worse
>gunplay is shit
>guns are shit
>enemies are black goo
>choices dont matter
>ending is shit and predictable
>sidequests are LITERALLY fetch quests
WOW GOTY FUCK JAPANESE GAMES YOU DONT LIKE PREY 2017 YOU LOVE JAP GAMES
lmao get bent arkane cucks. Glad I pirated.

>>379030158
>It took a few hours for me to get into it
>Prey is criticized for getting ridiculously fucking easy after a few hours

really nudges the noodle

>>379010753
Yes. I don't get the hate. The only thing I can think of is that it's titled "Prey". It is very Bioshock and System Shock esque.

>>379030519
I mean in the sense that I found it boring, it legitimately almost put me to sleep.

That was probably just because I was already tired but whatever.

https://ru.scribd.com/document/227321234/Prey-2-Document-1
https://ru.scribd.com/document/227321489/Prey-2-Document-2

>>379009859
>change can never not be good

I have seen people like you spouting retarded shit like this for 8+ years on this board, you human trash should be strung up on a tree.

>>379030068
>first to implement mechanics others rip from
System shock took everything from ultima underworld

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>>379009374
I have one issue with the game that made me drop it.
You play as the younger sibling who delets save files.

>Prey will forever be unfairly treated just because it's not Prey 2

>>379030847
nah its because its unoriginal and boring.

>>379009374
Why? It was pretty good.

>>379030952
>Unoriginal
How to spot someone desperate to shit on something.
99% of media these days are unoriginal, I'm sure you like plenty of them.

>>379010382
Out of those games, the only one I'd qualify as "current" is HR and MAYBE Bioshock. And Prey's better than Bioshock.

>>379030847
blame the fags who didn't make it a space cowboy sim

>>379031046
>99% of media these days are unoriginal
and prey 2017 is one of them lmao but thank you for proving my point.

>>379031126
I never disagreed but my point is it's a non-complaint.

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>>379029961
Danielle Sho.
Shodan

>>379026084
Persona 5 is better than Prey and you know it.

>>379010753
Yep. Another good game in what is so far the best year, video game-wise, of the decade. I guess with so many other good games out this year, it's understandable that some of them would go unnoticed, even more so when it's a reboot of an IP close to no one knows of with zero marketing and a brand new gameplay direction from the IP it's meant to be rebooting while simulating the gameplay style of games that were only ever popular decades ago.

>>379030847
I wanted to like Prey a lot I just think it's ridiculous how people are treating it as this secret gem when it's really just okay, lol

i thought prey 2 was overhyped

>>379031525
A glorified dating sim is hardly better than anything. If I had to choose a japanese game for GOTY it would be Yakuza 0.

>>379031628
People are unfairly shitting on it, which causes people to get defensive and unfairly prop it up.

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>>379009374
It's okay, George Broussard. Maybe next time you can hire a lawyer to read your contracts.

>>379031764
i genuinely think there's a LOT to critique over Prey

After the game came out I mentioned how I thought the game was way too easy for its own good and people leapt to its defense and said NO YOU MUST BE LYING I BET YOU DIDN'T FINISH THE GAME

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>yfw you stepped on the helicopter and this song played.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TRdx2tbUFI

>>379032101
Too bad the city looked really ugly and blurry

Such a good song

>>379017123
From my understanding, merch sales were pretty good, with the game sales being okay at best. I wouldn't be surprised to see this get a re-release on switch and it selling well above what it did on wiiu.

>>379032101
>Oh man the city look so damn empty, what the hell
>its a simulation

Pleasantly surprised.

>>379032303
>Start the game up.
>Walk to the balcony, see the door is jammed.
>Think to myself "Oh man, how typical, fucking lazy ass devs."

Goddamn it, they tricked me.

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>>379032101
Best part was fighting off phantoms in the club while https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4RanjlL7sg played.

>>379011761
mass effect 3 was on wii u?

>>379010382
damn you got blown the fuck out

>>379033101
No he didn't
>Name me five current games
>Two of them are over 18 years old

>>379010753
If you like immersive sims like System Shock, Deus Ex, Thief, etc it's a must play

>>379009859
How did it do something different? Mankind Divided was already out and even it was similar

These >you can play your way
games aren't very uncommon