What will you do now that half the jobs are unplayable
Make another FFXIV Thread
>>379001173
thread already exists, albeit with shitty OP formatting
>50 fucking runs of Fractal and STILL no tank chest
>>379002917
Thread already exists.
>yoshi says they're purposely overbuffing ast so that people will use it more
>not nerfing it back at all now for sb
what did he mean by this?
>>379003302
>no XIV in the title
doesn't exist
>>379003539
FFXIV devs stopped playing their own game after FCoB so they don't know what they're doing.
>WAR on suicide watch
I for one will enjoy playing BRD in Stormblood
>>379002917
>What will you do now that half the jobs are unplayable
Play RDM like half of the playerbase.
>>379004757
Is this an american thing? Euro Servers are full of "DRG soon SAM Main looking for 4.0 static. Cleared Creator in PF!"
>>379003016
>Range: ban
kek
>>379003271
Yugiri adds a much needed downs syndrome character. FFXIV is such a diverse game.
How do you rank the songs?
I love all of them, Revolutions really grew on me.
Answers>Dragonsong=Revolutions
>>379006883
Answers > Heavensward >>>> Dragonsong >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> garbage >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Revolutions
>>379003361
don't bother senpai, we're probably gonna get a dyeable version of all dungeon gear with SB
>housemaid bloomers
Objectively the only class going to cuck shed in Stormblood.WHMs picking lilies for their grave while on suicide watch
>>379006883
Dragon song >>> Revelations >>>>> shit >>>>> overrated shit >>>>>>>>>>>>> answers
answers is so fucking shitty fuck everyone wh omemes about this stupid song
>>379008003
>he didn't play 1.0
>he didn't do Final Coil when it was relevant
lmaoing at your life
>>379002917
I didn't know that WHM was half the jobs in the game OP
Fucking premades in PvP should be banned. I don't give a fuck if you want to play with friends. They destroy any notion of fun for the remaining 16 players on the field.
truth
midlander=American "white"
highlander= spic, with a mix of nig
roe= ocean nigger, land nigger.
Elezen= limeys, Irish cucks.
Lalas: chinks cuz they are short, and jew
Auras: Gooks and chinks (no double eyelids and they can have slanted eyes)
>>379007937
I really hope them taking suggestions in how to fix WHM actually goes somewhere.
>>379008891
Do you happen to play black mage by any chance?
>>379009031
Elezens are french.
>>379009031
Eleven are clearly French. Look at their names and how they are pronounced.
>>379009031
>highlander= spic, with a mix of nig
They're Scots mixed with Native Americans.
>Elezen= limeys, Irish cucks.
How the fuck can you possibly think they're anything but French?
>>379005276
Nope, I'm seeing that too. Honestly, the only people I'm seeing care about RDM are here.
>>379009269
He may be retarded
>>379009031
midlander are english you brainlet
go back to /b/ you buzzword spamming sperg
>>379009269
>Ala mihgo highlander
>scots
>>379009530
>called highlander
>use warpaints as battle garb
>every Ala Mhigan has a northern English accent
>somehow these aren't Scottish elements
How long does the Garo event still last? Have to gather all the pieces still.
>>379009269
Scots? Highlanders have snow niggers names.
>>379009667
everyone in this game speak broken ye olde english.
>>379009753
They're Scots who look like Native Americans with Germanic names who have a Chinese+Middle Eastern culture. It's a mish mash of shit.
>>379009768
Ala Mhigans are the only people with a consistent accent in their voice acting.
>>379009031
what is miqo'te?
>>379009739
I think until Omega raid patch
>>379009880
Hellguards are the natives.
>>379009891
Cute
>>379009984
Hellsguards are Polynesians. They even do firewalks.
Is MAR still good?
>>379009891
house pet
>>379009891
Rebellious house pets or slutty lions.
>>379009891
Arabs, with an emphasis on belly-dancing sluts and incest.
>>379007130
I agree.
When did all went wrong?.
>>379009880
>if this English dub does it, then it's canon
>>379011003
>devs make an intentional choice to cast the same accent for people from the same country
>i-it doesn't mean anything...!
>>379011108
What's the fastest way to get to ilvl230 from 200 so I can finish these dumb fetchquests bois.
>>379011185
kys
>>379011435
PVP.
>>379011435
Do front lines for pvp gear. Get a kinna weapon, upgrades from padjali. You should have enough tomes of lore for some pieces of equipment too.
>>379011435
>Mhach
>Gubal and Xelphatol
>>379009031
Why is it that you have to impose Earth races into a fantasy game with primals and moogles? Why can they just be Lalas and Elezen?
>>379012231
Potatoes and Knife Ears deserve no respect.
>>379012307
I believe in you anon, make your dreams into reality.
>>379012307
Do you have a giant dick?.
>>379009031
>everyone besides whites gets slurs
Why are people so fucking racist.
>>379002917
>Tfw my main got buffed (DRK)
>Tfw SAM looks great and will be my DPS
>Dont play healer
I'm all gud mayne
>>379012231
SE borrow alot of culture from earth, that's how lazy and uncreative they are
>>379012451
I have no dick.
>>379012460
>american "white"
He was implying burgers are not real whites.
>>379007937
>literally pushing up daisies
yoshidaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>>379012460
White people are the only good race.
>>379012460
White people don't have a slur because they can't be triggered. Cracker is the closest anybody ever got, but it was born of butthurt so it didn't stick.
>>379012460
people in this thread have already been prejudice against other races since the start. Being ironically racist on real life race doesnt make any different from.
>mfw I see 6 crit berserk cleaves in row
>>379012460
>white in quotes
>tacking on cuck because he didn't have anything else
He's trying, cut him some slack.
>>379012468
>DRK
>buffed
You lost off-gcds, your dot, a combo finisher, DPS, cooldowns, and your spot in any group.
>>379012460
>>379012545
Bad luck m8
>>379012682
>>379012708
>needs Grit to use their strongest attack
To the shed it goes.
>>379012460
This is 4chan. Everyone's uneducated, autistic, and racist. I used to expect people to keep that shit out of /v/, but that was long ago.
>>379012708
The buffs it got were actually pretty huge
lmao if you're reading that reddit thread where the guy got nearly every single part of it wrong
>>379012912
The extra potency on Grit is just to make up for the damage reduction while having Grit up. It will still do the same without it.
>>379012985
>buffs
>DRK
>>379013081
>taking tentative information seriously
>>379012967
The longer I stay in ffxi/v/ thread, the more I hate the game. It just make me realize how horrible its playerbase is in both end. Everyday here is just cuck here cuck that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbxImADif44
Are they right? They're pretty much the experts when it comes to XIV so keep that in mind. Were the UI changes a mistake?
>>379013394
>LBR
>Experts
They're some of the dumbest niggers in the game full stop friend
>>379013303
>cuck this cuck that
It's just lighthearted (a bit childish too, I admit) fun that goes with the hype of the expac release.
I'm a WAR main (UNTIL NOW®) and I don't pay too much attention to it. Don't take it seriously. Shit's not even the definitive version of the skills.
>>379013394
The only class that's gotten a bad deal out of their UI is SMN since Atherflow and Trail stacks aren't independent anymore.
>>379013394
>LBR
>Muh edgy jokes didn't make people like us Wahhhh
Into the trash, shitters complain about raids and shit that they don't even do.
>>379013394
>Limit Break Radio
Their Dad of Light podcast was fucking stupid since it was nothing but them bashing the PV and J-dramas in general along with not letting the only one familiar with them talk.
>>379013081
>Blackest Night is better overall than Sheltron or Inner Beast as a maintanking active mitigation skill
>Blackest Night is only a little worse than Intervention, but a million times better than WAR's "nothing" as an offtanking active mitigation skill
>Buff to Darkside's damage more than makes up for the Scourge>Bloodletter downgrade as well as the loss of Reprisal/Low Blow damage
>Removal of MP drain is almost always on par or better than 3.x Blood Price while maintanking, except in SB you can offtank and get the same benefit, and if/when you ever turn Grit on you can double up on that by still getting actual Blood Price
>Blood Weapon's MP drain is a third stronger than it was
>Dark Arts buffed from 120 potency to 140, cooldown lowered to 2s so you can use it on every GCD while you have the MP
>Plus has Trick Attack because why not?
PLD is clearly and obviously overpowered but DRK's buffs definitely outshine WAR'seven if you choose to live in denial about the Sole Survivor thing
>>379013394
Are they complaining about anime in ffxiv?.
Anyway i have cancer now thanks.
>>379013394
>mfw this game truly has 0, absolutely fucking Z E R O good content creators and people have to settle for garbage like this
I keep losing hope in this community
>>379014216
Literally all wrong, fuck off back to your DRK circlejerk and stop wasting my time. You could at least try to make your shitposts vaguely believable.
>>379013724
>those HP numbers.
>Dat Direct Crit number
Pfft.
I mean, in time, maybe but.. shit.
>>379003016
Dumb iShit user.
>>379012460
Evergreen
>>379015148
>still can't turn off numbers
>>379014690
>not liking mr happy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWHAa8mYzkk
so topical
>>379015148
I do expect us to hit those numbers before 5.0 hits, don't you?
>>379009031
>Elezen= limeys, Irish cucks.
We're Slavs you retard.
>>379014690
Weebs just aren't very funny or creative unfortunately
>>379014772
Everything in it is right though?
>>379014690
https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_553871447&feature=iv&src_vid=NwamamydWAU&v=3Q1cr5udb-8
Astrologian is changed to be a female miqo'te and female au ra exclusive job.
Knowing this game's playerbase, would there legitimately be any opposition to this?
>>379015978
>lala AST
Master race.
>>379015978
Only midlanders and elezens can be astros sorry.
Reminder that if they add Viera, 50% of this game's races will be half animals, effectively making the playerbase 25% furry.
>>379016076
Lalashits OUT.
>>379013303
Its summer, anon. If anything, its your own fault for expecting anything else.
>>379014216
The only problem with DRK now is that their rotation is braindead as fuck. With no Scourge or Delirium to manage, it's literally just 123123123 while using oGCDs. It's like PLD and DRK have switched places.
I wish they had at least kept Scourge but made it combo off Hard Slash or something, even if it means they lose damage elsewhere. Get rid of Dark Passenger instead, we don't need that shit anymore.
>>379011435
ARF farming for Lore and buying your Eikonic gear.
Or buying crafted i255s with the money you should have been saving from MSQ, since there should have been nothing of value to buy up until now.
>>379015321
No, If we are just now hitting 28k with 290 gear on Samurai, we'll hit maybe 32k.
>>379016981
It's boring ass 123 now, but at least we'll do fucking damage unlike PLD 2.0. That's how I'm trying to look at it. I'll miss scourge animation. ALL THESE GOOD ANIMATIONS AND THEY JUST TAKE THEM ALL AWAY.
>>379016981
They're going to turn those 1-2-3s into 1-1-1 come 5.0 if PVP is a sign of things to come.
>>379016981
I wish they'd kept Scourge as a combo finisher too, but I honestly don't feel like DRK took that big of a hit in overall complexity. Power Slash was just as much of a nonfactor in HW as it will be in SB, and Delirium vs Souleater were never really two distinct combos so much as they were "Do you have the MP to use a Dark Arts on this combo? Y/N". It's not really any more 1-2-3 than it ever was.
The only thing I wish they'd done would be to increase the maximum size of your MP pool and/or Blood Gauge (without buffing the rate at which you accumulate either of those things). DRK's whole deal for SB seems to be taking advantage of party buffs and DPS windows by being able to store up MP/Blood and then release it all at an opportune moment, but the cap on MP and Blood is so low that you can only realistically store up about 4 extra attacks' worth between the two of them. If you could save up more like 6-8 of them without worrying about maxing out either gauge, that would really let you direct where your damage goes most effectively.
>>379017109
Shitty crafted accessories with lowest tier post 70 gear, no food, no pots, no Balance, no Trick Attack, ect. 50k is entirely possible this expansion cycle on SAM.
>>379017109
If things jump like they did for endgame HW, numbers will get bigger than that. at least high 30k/low40k. I'm personally hoping they don't have another jump like that if they can help it, though.
Watch as WHM outperform every single healer class despite the nerfs.
>>379018152
Outperform in what manner?
>>379018370
overhealing per second
If you use any of the following pieces of clothing in any combination, you're an ERP shitter:
Any version of the Kirimu coat
Arachne shirt of Striking/Scouting
Any bikini
Coliseum set
Bridesmaid Tights
Bunny outfit
>>379018646
t sea talisman roe
Reposting
>drop 45 SCH for BRD (currently a level 12 ARC)
>combat is already more interesting than the SCH
I did a ton of research even before making my SCH but I think SCH was overhyped in how engaging it was. Apply dots, bane, adl retard dps standing in AoE
>>379018646
>Being female in the first place
Faggot
>>379018646
You forgot the moogle slippers.
>>379013394
LBR are sheer fucking cancer. They LITERALLY don't do raids or anything harder than the occasional EX primal and still talk hot shit like they're the best in the game. Disgusting and disgraceful.
>>379019185
Haven't watched them in a while but yeah, Nika was the only tolerable one for me. She actually does savage raids iirc.
>>379018370
Not hard to do when so many bad players use SCH, and nobody plays AST.
>>379018646
But the maid set is cute.
>>379013394
How do these idiots even pretend to know anything about this game when they clearly haven't paid attention to fucking anything and have no god damn idea about the UI elements?
>>379018646
I only wear the coliseum one because I am leveling.
>>379014690
Sometimesdenmomcstronghugeis alright, but yeah there is no hope for this community.
It's kinda bizarre, you usually expect games from big series/companies to have a far more community-made content (since it reaches a "wider audience" and all that shit), or at least some sort of variety in said content, but nope, most stuff is just content guides, someone posting videos of him fucking up on raids with his friends and these "funny" videos with a guy reading a stupid long joke in the most boring way possible and expecting that his voice alone will make people laugh.
>>379014690
The NEST videos are entertaining at least. There's MogTalk for podcasts too but I haven't listened to them in months because there really isn't a lot to talk about until Stormblood actually comes out.
>>379020191
The first few NEST videos are great but then they started huffing their own farts and just regurgitating their own dumb memes.
MogTalk is actually pretty legit though if the episode is about something you care about, I like that the host makes an effort to try to get guests who actually know what they're doing.
>>379019921
>>379014690
XIV may be the 2nd biggest subscription MMO, but it's still not very big.
There is nothing wrong with dressing like a slut.
These people are usually better than the male characters trying to look unique.
HIGH ON HIGH I STAND
>>379020434
MORE?
>>379012460
I love this picture so much.
>>379020434
Slut armor is awful, tanks that slut glam are the worst.
>>379002917
Cute pillow.
>>379020434
ERP shitter detected
>>379020561
Worst tanks are and will always be generic looking male midlanders.
>>379020693
those are just bots
>>379018646
>all that shit
>forgot the ultimate "I'm a huge ERP shitter please send tells" flag, South Seas Talisman
You can still find decent uses for the arachne shirt and even bridesmaid stuff, but using that talisman will permanently mark you as a degenerate.
>>379020357
Latest census thingy I saw put it at 400k active players, that's not terrible in today's market. That's still over five million a month Squeenix is pulling in on sub fees alone before cash shop jeweryAnd none of it will be reinvested into the game
>>379020434
>>379020561
>>379020693
Fuck off you ERP shitters
>>>/vg/
>>379020750
>Bowser porn folder is empty
0/10 low effort
>>379020693
>>379020561
>>379020434
For people who like to "RP", dressing like a slut EVERYWHERE is rather annoying.
>>379020623
All the erpers are know are top percentiles raiders, it's normal people that are shitters desu.
Remember to eat your burgers for Yoshi-P.
>>379007937
WAR is too IF the Sole Survivor vulnerability up in PVE turns out to be true.
There would be 0 fucking reasons to take a WAR over a DRK if it's real.
>>379019921
>goons
>>379020889
>top percentiles raiders
>using fflogs
even more proof of being shitters
>>379020434
>There is nothing wrong with dressing like a slut.
Besides everything. Put on some fucking armor and not Thavnairian garbage.
>>379020893
>might actually go to Hardees for one of these cups
>>379018152
watch nothing matter outside your own static, like usual
>>379020893
Video game tie-ins with fast food are always cringy as fuck. What does a fantasy game have to do with pizza or burgers? It just radiates the image of the fat, slovenly shut-in gamer who lives off fast food. Its flattering for neither the game nor the restaurant.
>>379020434
It would matter if only the women in this game had any curves.
>>379020776
Yea, but it's split. 150 in JP, 150 in NA, 75 in EU.
>>379020893
>>379021080
Same. I don't even go to Carl's Jr.
same thing I do with all ff stuff after 6.
don't buy there shit.
ff is pic related.
>>379021534
6 was garbage.
>>>/vr/
>>379021223
people in the east love shitty american food because its exotic to them, its actually a good idea. the fact that you associate shut-in losers with living off fast food just happens to be a coincidence
>>379020357
Games with a far smaller communities like Warframe and Phantasy Star Online 2 at least have decent porn.
Hell, even XI have decent pretty doujins, XIV don't even have that even though the game is constantly asking for it. There is definitively something wrong with XIV's community.
>>379020776
Last time I checked the japanese unofficial census, XIV had around ~550k active players. That was months ago, though.
now that MNK is literally unplayable
will they add Dancer(branched from pugilist) later in this expansion?
>>379022182
Dancer will never be a thing.
>>379020893
Are these just your regular disposable fountain drink cups or are they sturdier?
http://www.strawpoll.me/13107932
http://www.strawpoll.me/13107932
VOTE OR DIE
O
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>>379022182
Samurai was planned for 3.0 but got pushed to 4.0
an Onmyo mage was planned for 4.0, so
>>379022558
They look like plastic, not styrofoam.
>>379022182
>Arcanist was a mistake even admitted by Yoshi
>Will they add more branching jobs???
>>379021015
If it isn't true, is there even a reason to take a WAR over a second PLD?
>>379022928
Limit break gauge going charging slower.
>>379022928
LB charge rate
>>379022578
>AST is always 1 vote ahead
Is this rigged?
>>379021851
There DJ, you just have to check taiga, surugaya, etc for them. Most of them are OC doujin thou, no one really care about NPC doujin.Atleast I have 2 r18 Doujin of Hauchefant x WOL.
>>379022578
Be a healslut so my DPS queues are faster, thanks.
>>379012460
Because whites came up with those slurs, they wouldn't reserve one for themselves
I expected more people to be in R-300 for Chocobo racing for this event but it's just me racing alone forever
Any /v/ guilds that aren't the /vg/ guild?Leviathan server.
>>379024462
/v/ fc are very horrible. The magic doesnt last that long as you think it.
>>379024262
I've been getting like 3 other people
maybe your server's just dead
>>379024626
It's better than /vg/ fcs.
>>379024626
What's the actual difference between those and other FCs
>>379022647
SAM was plannedfor 1.0
Once I hit 50 I'm skipping MSQ up to Heavensward, should I start paying attention to quests and stop skipping cutscenes after*
>>379002917
>half the jobs are unplayable
>WHM is getting fixes it should have had since 2.0
>BRD is getting buffed
I'll be playing it more since my favorite classes got improved.
>>379021223
the overwatch/taco bell tie-in was actually just "here buy overwatch" written all over the cups and boxes.
they even gave away headsets
there was no "finish the fight" or any bullshit, it was just new designs on the five dollar big box meals.
this hardees thing sounds about the same too
>>379013303
>cucks
GAF?
>>379024980
No.
>>379025009
>WHM is getting fixes it should have had since 2.0
I'd really like to hear this one explained
>>379009162
The only way they're going to fix WHM in this game is if they actually make healing an important task in the first place, which they won't because then the game would be to hard for 3/4 of the subscribers.
>>379024980
at this point everything in heavensward could vanish instantly and all they need to say is "the princess isnt actually dead" to keep you up to speed
Do you prefer fighting, gathering or crafting?
>>379009269
Do you really think someone making a post like that is intelligent?
>>379025319
We'll never get anything close to the level of A3S again
>>379024980
If you mean the 2.x stuff prior to Heavensward then start paying attention around 2.3.
An easier way of doing it is to just take note, if the crystal braves (blue guys) are around, you are in Coerthas or you have just beaten the Afk Afar Amphitheater then pay attention.
>>379025372
>do you prefer being a raid autists, a jew, or a max jew?
>>379025031
I feel bad for D.Va, her Korean biology probably can't handle the hellstorm that is Taco Bell.
Tracer looks particularly in awe at "Mexican" food though.
>>379025476
>>379024980
Oh I should clarify when I say you have beaten Ahk Afah Amphitheater I mean from that point on pay attention. There's only like 25 or so quests left before heavensward at that point.
>>379024462
The only one that makes itself known is on Ultros. I know there are many Leviathan /v/ players but I haven't seen any attempt to make a /v/ FC on the server. You might be able to find a linkshell.
>>379025578
Counterpoint:
no, the quests can all be skipped as they're ALL shit and who gives a fuck
>>379013724
I would actually play the shit out of that.
>friend bribes me to play wow
>pays for my sub
how do i escape
>tried ffxiv
>it's just a slower, more boring version of wow
what's even good about this game?
>>379024798
/v/ life span is as average as the typical common fc. Active on update, ghost town on dry season of the game. Discord is usually full of meme and /v/ jargon. Even off from 4chan radar, some people still hide behind the anonymous persona. Because of that, members are less likely to talk about things outside of their comfort zone or personal stuff, which sorta preventing community from becoming closer. Despise theses downside, you can still have fun thou, just less open and personal. Raiding with /v/ is still nonetheless more out of the ordinary than the average static.
>>379024798
There are only three types of FCs that actually cares about inviting people:
>circlejerks looking for slaves and/or disposable substitutes for their static
>ERP centrals
>bootleg reddit chatroom
Guess which one is the /v/ FC.
>>379025476
>if the crystal braves (blue guys) are around, you are in Coerthas or you have just beaten the Afk Afar Amphitheater then pay attention.
This is a pretty good metric.
The writers screwed the pooch on the resolution of the crystal braves plot, so I'd argue you could simply that to "If you're in Coerthas, pay attention".
Wouldn't want to miss Haurchefants player-freakout.
>>379025708
erp and raiding
Haven't really been keeping up with this, so cleric stance does nothing now or what does it do?
>>379025760
All three at once
>>379025708
>how do i escape
You can't. You can't ever escape now. It's too late.
>>379025760
Again I query, what's the difference between that and normal FCs
>>379025731
>Active on update, ghost town on dry season of the game
Sounds about right.
>Discord is usually full of meme and /v/ jargon. Even off from 4chan radar, some people still hide behind the anonymous persona.
Good.
>members are less likely to talk about things outside of their comfort zone or personal stuff, which sorta preventing community from becoming closer.
Even better.
>you can still have fun thou, just less open and personal. Raiding with /v/ is still nonetheless more out of the ordinary than the average static.
Sounds right up my alley.
>kind of want to get back in after not playing since before heavensward
>realize i'd have to go through leveling and all of heavensward content or pay up to play stormblood
>NEET with limited funds
Oh well. I'll always have the fond memories of 1.0 and ARR.
>>379020750
>that image is almost literally me except Iplay healer because tanking is spoopy
Is it time to uninstall?
>>379025818
It does basically nothing in Stormblood. It's a basically-ignorable 5% damage buff, for only 15 seconds with a 90 second cooldown. At the same time, it's a cross-role skill and every healer class has lost additional skills to the cross-role pool in addition to the ones they already had to take, so it isn't even necessarily a "Well I don't need any more of these shitty cross-classes so I guess I might as well grab it" kind of deal.
Just a big fuckup on SE's part in general, really.
So which jobs could feasibly be left to make for a future expansion?
>>379025818
It's a 5% increase on damage done for like 15 seconds on some cooldown. Basically a healer version of raging strikes.
>>379018646
But they're adding water stuff
If you don't wear a swimsuit when you're in the water, you're a no-fun faggot.
>>379025259
No more stance dancing and more healing potency to bring them up to the level of the other healers who got buffed before.
to the people who beat the game, why do you still log in everyday to play?
>>379026091
Don't wake up the dancer fags
>>379026172
>more healing potency to bring them up to the level of the other healers
anon, whm isn't the only with more healing potency
>>379026172
>more healing potency to bring them up to the level of the other healers who got buffed before
im so sorry
>job gauge buffs don't appear in the regular buff bar
>will be forced to have those cringy WoW addons enabled
>>379026091
YP was interested in making classes that were outside the realm of the previous games. I imagine the next tank will be some kind of new entry. Dancer is sure to come.
I'm hoping for Necromancer at some stage though.
>>379025843
Far less chances of "leader's 'girl'friend" drama but higher chances of "leader's fuckboy" drama.
>>379025708
You tried it and didn't like it, anon. Move on.
>trying to glamour my sch into a schoolgirl aesthetic.
>Can't have skirt and thigh high stockings combo without it looking bad.
Thighboots it is, I guess
>>379026309
i'm so sorry you prefer squinting at buff icons for ants that are constantly shuffling themselves around
>>379025708
>what's even good about this game?
After you get through the horribly boring story quests, it opens up and there's lots of things to do. And you can level up every class on the same character. I actually had more fun leveling my second and third class because I was able to just go out and level off monsters/hunting logs/dungeons freely. Not limited by dumb story.
The game still has plenty of flaws. It is not what an MMO should be, since MMOs should be about free roaming and open ended gameplay. But its the best themepark out there right now (since SquareEnix won't release Dragon Quest X to the west).
>>379026193
Fun with friends.
Gathering items for SAM/RDM
>>379002917
unsub and not buy stormblood. Start playing mobage or mobas or just working out.
>>379026091
Dancer :^)
There's also Blue Mage, Chemist (I doubt they'll use the same name), Beastmaster, Mystic Knight, Geomancer being the popular demand.
I feel like this time they should add a magic tank and a physical healer to change it up.
>>379025675
There is a Levi xivg server where their fc doesn't even post on vg anymore. I find it funny they even invite their normie friends, when I /t a random member with "xivg {Run Away!}", they are confused.the FC short name is NEET and no I don't belong to it
>>379026081
Jesus Christ I'm looking more into it now and they've basically ass raped WHM what are they even thinking? I can't even believe what I'm looking at.
>>379026424
They're not small on my HUD.
>>379026447
>stop playing a shitty game
>start playing an even shittier game
>>379026496
is a vg fc*
Fucked up that first sentence
>>379026447
>Recommending anybody play Mobages
What the fuck dude?
>>379026091
Oracle/Exorcist/Onmyoji
Performer/Juggler
Puppermaster
Corsair, if you redesigned some skills maybe
Rune Fencer
Blue Mage
Hawkeye/Ranger
Youkai
>>379026551
>2019
>playing at 1024x768
and if you had to magnify them or tinker with them at all, it's a fundamentally flawed design
So which tank of the three is going to be the best for a beginner to pick up (either now or once SB changes hit)? My main concern is being able to easily maintain aggro and not having to stress over my pulls wandering off
>>379026496
I don't think everyone in NEET is from /vg/. I'm not in it though.
>being autistic and sending tells like that
>>379026496
is that the one where the FC leader is named pepe?
>>379026504
They got this idea in their heads that it would be a good idea to just consolidate skills that are common/staple to healers into the cross-class system (which is true) so you wouldn't need to level up multiple jobs just to play one (which is good) but they were too fucking stupid to realize the difference between a skill that is common to all classes because it offers useful utility that should always be an optional part of their toolkit, and a skill that is common to all classes because it's fucking essential to performing their basic role function and is completely non-optional.
I'm honestly surprised they didn't get rid of Physick and Benefic and make all the healers waste a lot on Cure 1, too.
>>379026496
>http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/freecompany/9232379236109594332/
>roleplay
>>379026708
WAR is the easiest to level.
>>379026641
>tfw started playing FF14 in April and went in with basically no prior research as to classes etc.
>always play a Ranged DPS class in MMOs so I pick Archer.
>My only real choice for a job is Bard
>mfw
I don't mind playing Bard, as it's basically an Archer with a few songs but I'd kill for an actual Ranger class that expanded on DOTs and other actual Ranger-esque abilities.
>>379026641
Put in Necromancer and make the Edda the guild leader.
>>379026641
>Corsair
It's just a Marauder
>>379024462
I'd be willing to make a No Fun Allowed chapter on Leviathan if there is interest. Finding members that aren't complete spastics is the real problem.
>>379026682
Okay, anon.
>>379026965
It's /v/. Everyone is spastic in some sense. You just gotta figure out how much you're willing to handle.
>>379026632
OP asks a question. Answer the question.
>recommendations
or are you genuinely looking for something to fill the void left by XIV in this thread?
>>379025862
>>379025760
lots of anime posting too remember that
>>379027114
Lmao just avoid the discord channels.
>>379026854
Because they have an easier time soloing (higher DPS and higher HP pool vs PLD mitigation)?
>>379026917
The only way I would want a Necromancer class in this game is if it's full on "summon skellies to fight for you" instead of the usual shit of "oh, you can summon skelly hands for one ability, and everything else is just life draining and spooky curses n shit"
I hate summoning classes in MMOs that don't actual summon shit to fight for you.
>>379027171
They get their tank stance earlier than PLD.
>>379026913
it's not even archer with a few songs because there's one song you play all the time and 2 other situational songs
at least it's finally changing with SB
>>379026797
But they took pretty much all of WHMs actually unique skills and made them cross role too. The class has basically no appeal at all now. If they were trying to just do staple stuff they really fucked up.
>>379014690
I made a ravana MT guide during HW launch when I last played, that's about it. Might make more shit during SB but I'll be playing RDM.
>>379027204
>Aion got the summoner class right.
>Aion was never good.
Sad that a well thought out class is in such a shit game.
>>379027204
Necromancer should just be summoning Voidsent. Skeletons are lame.
>>379026641
>Youkai
in that case fuck blue mage and bring in vampire instead
Hey guys I have a kinna wep and full lore set.
I'm wondering if I should farm alexander normal for gear or dun scaith because I'm pretty much locked out of some content right now with i235 and I barely survive some extreme content because I only have 17k hp.
>>379027329
I am looking forward to not being a BLM-lite.
>>379026424
I already have to look at the enemy's bar. It's not hard to glance at my buffs since they're close, only an idiot can't.
You know that you can customize your UI, right?
>>379026917
FF doesn't traditionally have a necromancer class. Also, Necromancer in game like this would just be a dark version of Summoner. You'd have a little pet version of Diablos or Odin and they would play exactly the same as Summoner's pets, with some debuff/curse skills on your playable character.
A better idea would be them adding Blue Mage. And make it a unique class by going around fighting enemies to collect your skills. For example, 'Let Malboros hit you with Bad Breath 20 times to learn Bad Breath'.
>>379027585
>FF doesn't traditionally have a necromancer class
There was one in the FFV remake.
>Also, Necromancer in game like this would just be a dark version of Summoner.
Funnily enough the original concept for SMN was to have it as a Void Mage that summoned Cait Sith, Atomos, Mindflayer, etc. Necromancy in XIV's world is also a side effect of Void energy so it also would've been a necromancer.
>>379027369
Aion was my first MMO
I've been playing the game for about 3 weeks. I have a level 54 Dragoon and a level 40 White Mage. But I'm getting burned out because the Heavensward quests are so bad. It's stupid I have to go through all this shitty story to unlock the new town. I've wanted to play Dark Knight from the start, but still can't get it yet.
>>379026641
>Yokai
So you want furries playing the game now?
>>379020338
MogTalk is great, it should pick up a lot after the expansion release.
>>379027717
They already are.
>>379027678
It was the first really hyped 'WoW-killer' in what would become a long line of claims that everyone knew would fail.
It was enjoyable for a little while but then the Korean MMO grind hit you and it was like nah.
>>379027585
>A better idea would be them adding Blue Mage. And make it a unique class by going around fighting enemies to collect your skills. For example, 'Let Malboros hit you with Bad Breath 20 times to learn Bad Breath'.
That doesn't work with FFXIV's system. Besides do you really want to put up with shitter BLUs in dungeons that don't even have all their job actions?
>>379027402
I think you get locked out DS for a week if you get a piece of gear. You can farm scriptures first and then do Alex normal for pieces you didn't cover with Shire yet.
>>379027647
I agree
>>379027331
I dunno about that. Break and Esuna were pretty much already shared between all the healers, Cleric and Protect were mandatory picks for every single one as well, and Lucid Dreaming is probably closer to the AST version than the WHM version of the same skill, with the increased duration.
The only thing that really got 'took' from them that felt like it belonged to them was Divine Seal - and they did get pretty fucked on that one considering that Largesse is a straight downgrade from it in every way, while AST kept the other half of Synastry.
The issue is more that all the healers should have been given Esuna, Protect, Swiftcast, and Lucid Dreaming for free, and then have five slots on top of that to choose between that add actual fun/interesting optional abilities.
>>379027662
>the original concept for SMN was to have it as a Void Mage
Bullshit desu
When Yoshi asked for what new jobs people wanted to see in ARR, pet jobs only labeled as Summoner and Beastmaster won the poll
>>379027402
Do Dun Scaith. There's no lockout anymore, and Alexander Normal is dead as shit.
>>379027717
there's a pvp set that looks like that already
>>379027803
>That doesn't work with FFXIV's system.
It would work fine, it's just that Yoshi won't implement it. Instead of learning a skill through an NPC, you learn it by interacting with the monsters. It is essentially the same thing, just the interaction is different.
>Besides do you really want to put up with shitter BLUs in dungeons that don't even have all their job actions?
I'm already dealing with endless tanks who don't use any of their skills even after learning them.
>>379027954
And the Summoner concept they had was that it would summon Void creatures since summoning primals conflicted with the lore. It still would've been called Summoner. Rydia summoned Goblins, Mindflayers, and Bombs in FFIV so it already has precedent. But people wanted to summon the classic summons, so they scrapped it.
>>379027521
where do you get off the idea i can't glance at them? just because i can doesn't mean i should have to.
how do i isolate just the job-relevant buffs and place them away - or at least, space them - from the rest of the bullshit like sprint, well fed, FC buffs and party buffs? how do i make sure they always pop up in the EXACT same order and not shuffled around? how do i make the buff layout different for any job that might warrant a different layout instead of all of them looking the same?
stop defending a garbage lazy design. crucial gameplay elements should be communicated via specific UI components, not a bunch of generic buff icons. every other video game knows this. WoW had addons precisely to get around this bullshit
>>379027998
>It would work fine, it's just that Yoshi won't implement it. Instead of learning a skill through an NPC, you learn it by interacting with the monsters. It is essentially the same thing, just the interaction is different.
And how do you make it worth with level sync - "oh all the skills you learned are higher level so you can do literally nothing now"
>>379028141
>But people wanted to summon the classic summons
And we got trash Egis instead. Still salty, but at least we get an actual Bahamut now.
>>379028315
At the cost of two GCD DOTs and only lasts 20s.
Not worth it imo.
>>379027373
u wot nigga
>>379027373
This. Make void mage instead.
>>379002917
I will wait for a year till it goes on 50-75 sale just like always and then play it for 1 or 2 months.
My FC wants to do an RP event where we perform Draco and Maria. How should we do this? Any costumes to look out for?
>>379026641
Gunblade wielding tank
Completely new job to the series
>muh utility
Maybe it's time to go back to the ARR days where this meme didn't exist, jobs got one (1) useful skill and that was it. We don't need all this constant party wide buffs coming from DPS.
Except MCH and BRD obviously.
>cant fap for 10 days due to some dick wounds
>FFXIV didn't release the expansion yet
How the fuck I protect my dick from boredom mates?
>>379028141
There's still no proof to this. When they meant Summoner, it will obviously mean the ones we see summoning the typical Ifrit, Shiva, Titan etc.
>>379028315
Because the real summons are the Primals that end up being detrimental to the world.
>>379028565
Have you tried using your ass?
>>379028565
i know you want someone to ask, but what did you do to your dick anon
>>379028535
Gunblade isn't really a tank weapon. Hell most Gunblade users in the series (Squall, Lightning, the guy from AC) tend be just as much mages as they are physical fighters.
>>379028565
prostate stimulation
>>379028231
You still get the quest at a set level. It would just be like a hunting log. You hit level 45 and a pop up says 'you have a new entry for Blue Mage'. Then you open up your quest log and it tells you to go let Malboros hit you with bad breath.
Its literally the exact same process as any other class. Except you don't go to some set NPC to get the quest. And instead of doing some story instance, you fight enemies in the wild (letting their skills hit you).
>>379026386
>Not going with the AF1 and 2 one for maximum ZR
>>379028315
The only problem with Egis is that they're badly designed.
>>379028565
A dildo
>>379028567
>Demi Bahamut
No excuses.
>stuck in Mor Dhona grinding from 46 to 49
There's gotta be a faster way.
>>379028380
>People are still bitching about getting only two DoTs
You only get to use them once every 2 minutes. Think about it. You're not a boring DoT mage anymore.
>>379028670
>Its literally the exact same process as any other class. Except you don't go to some set NPC to get the quest. And instead of doing some story instance, you fight enemies in the wild (letting their skills hit you).
That's exactly why Yoshi doesn't want to do it, because it's the same as any other class instead of going out of your way to learn them off enemies.
>>379028648
I'm only going by us going to the empire in 5.0 and lot of them use heavy armor and gunblades
>>379028719
POTD or Aurum Vale. :^)
>>379028719
potd
>>379028719
Enjoy it dude, it goes to shit after you get to the floating islands.
>>379028567
No, void mage was planned from the beginning, but it was converted to classic summoner for 2.0
The Cait Sith model they use in the Void Ark questline isn't ripped from XI like what would have been a million times easier, they used the scrapped pet model.
>>379028727
>You're not a boring DoT mage anymore
picked up. fuck dots. what's so fun about something that runs in the background?
>>379028727
BUT I LIKED BEING A DOT MAGE GOD DAMN IT
>>379027814
Gear lockout is over, only lockout per week in DS is the mhachi matter and the proto Ultima weekly.
>>379028816
>The Cait Sith model they use in the Void Ark questline isn't ripped from XI like what would have been a million times easier, they used the scrapped pet model.
Cait Sith has been a minion from day 1 of ARR, you know. It's not like that made the model just for that questline.
Just started HW, do the MSQs provide enough exp to carry me through to 60?
>>379027369
>Aion got the summoner class right.
Nigga what?
Are you speaking of Spiritmaster?
Because they are basically Sumonner, DoT based magical DPS with Fears and a shield with the pet who deal damage.
I guess the evolution of their pets was cool.
>>379028643
Masturbated way too much and got my skin flayed a bit.
10 days spending with no fap and putting a regenerative cream 2 times per day. Like its not hurting or bleeding but its all irritated you can see red veins in my dick skin.
I want SMN to be more like the MC of a Persona game, where you summon egis for different abilities instead of being DOTS AND PETS
>>379028850
What's fun about spamming (the same) weak ruins?
There's nothing more boring than jobs that have nothing to manage. Even fucking BLM will be more complex than us now.
>>379028716
He lasts 20 seconds, Egis last forever.
Their tiny size is mainly because they didn't want a big-ass pet being a nuisance to people's views.
>>379028919
The minion isn't even close to the same model used in Void Ark, though. It's unique, and very low quality for some weird reason. Even the FFXI Cait Sith looks better.
>>379028991
So you want SMN to be like SMN in FF?
>>379028735
No, Yoshi won't do it because you would be learning the skill off enemies. And he forces every class skill to come from a story quest.
When you go to learn something like a DRG skill, you don't actually go out and do something related to that skill. You just go to some empty snow area and have that dick Enstien rattle on about how emo he is. Then go back to the NPC and like magic, you learn to jump. A Blue Mage would have to physically go out and let enemies hit them to learn a skill. And this is why Yoshi-P won't do it. Because it would point out how dumb all the other classes quests are.
>>379028632
I tried, don't have ass sensibility. If I had I probably wouldn't had ruined my dick
>>379012626
whatever you say cumskin
>>379029005
>Their tiny size is mainly because they didn't want a big-ass pet being a nuisance to people's views.
Too bad they still didn't put any kind of effort into the smaller models like they did with Carbuncles and the Faeries. I'd love a little miniature Ifrit-like lizard crawling around at my feet instead of generic, textureless, neon fire elemental.
>>379028991
So just a BLM with flashier animations?
>>379029005
>Their tiny size is mainly because they didn't want a big-ass pet being a nuisance to people's views.
And then he tells the people to zoom out the camera to beat Titan.
Also, egis don't last when they get trapped outside of a boss room :^)
>>379029060
>Then go back to the NPC and like magic, you learn to jump.
Because you literally learn the majority of your abilities through magic. You access the memories of the previous wielders of your job stone as you attune with it further.
>>379015168
>androcuck
>>379029039
Yes.
>>379029143
Yes, but agile.
>>379014690
Ethys Asher is actually pretty great but only me and maybe 3 other people give a shit about XIV lore
>>379029106
That's the dev team for you. Good at being lazy and churning out half-assed content.
>>379029069
>don't have ass sensibility
I feel bad for you :\
>>379026965
I'd join if people would run EX primals of SB and HW with me. Also do fun shit like the 7 WAR and 1 WHM some other fc did a month or two ago, I had fun doing that crap with Moogle and Ifrit in 1.0.
I don't spot memes, I just like doing shenanigans in PvP. Master of bait.
>>379029003
>put aids on thing
>X seconds later
>ah time to refresh
>"""""""manage""""""""
i'm laughing. at least BLMs have to attend to their casts the entire time
also ruin spam is shit. you had to hop between staring at clocks and spamming an airgun. it's a pretty depressing job
>>379029242
He is a little boring, if he had the passion of GW2's WoodenPotatoes then I would watch his videos more often.
>>379029003
>BLM
>More complex
>They adjusted the job so only a complete retard could manage to drop Enochian
>They still just spam Fire IV but more
Yeah, no.
>>379029464
>keep their whole level 50 rotation
That alone makes them winner.
>>379029529
Yeah it was sure fun spamming Fires all the time and then use Blizzard when you're out of MP...yawn.
>>379029464
Shitters still won't use fire 4. all they know is fire 1. i see it every fucking day
>>379027058
When I say spastics I mean mentally ill fucks that will take every opportunity to cause drama and ruin everyone's fun.
>Trying to make Scalemail armor for my Lancer
>Need Silver Ingot
>The cheapest pack of Silver Ingots on the board are 20k
This is really annoying man, why can't we just buy individual stuff from the market, why does it have to be mass purchases. I just want one ingot.
>>379029464
>so only a complete retard could manage to drop Enochian
this has always been the case
you dropped enochian because of the 1000 ways your own party members cucked you out of the opportunity to refresh it. enochian is impossible to drop if the BLM is left to their own device, because even you're a shitter clipping the shit out of it, just refreshing it twice will make it last until the next cd
"no i dropped enochian because the boss flied away, such a hardcore job :("
the only adjustment done to enochian is making it maintainable through transitions. if you forget to transpose, you will drop it immediately instead of having the big enochian timer to fall back on
old BLM didn't have umbral hearts
>>379029714
Make them.
>>379029714
As a person who sells stacks of shit on the MB instead of in singles it's because it's a huge bitch to sell everything individually.
>>379029714
Just buy the stack, take your 1 then list it back up at a slightly lower price per unit to get rid of it.
>>379029676
hilariously enough, the lv50 rotation is far more flexible and reactive than 60's rote, rigid do or die rotation that's still fire spam with the addition of a blizz 4 during umbral ice
>>379029946
Its also a good way of forcing players to buy the entire stack even if they need only one item.
>>379029189
Which is a pretty shitty plot element. Using that logic, we shouldn't have to even level the character at all since we touched the magic crystal of everything in the opening movie.
>>379030106
It's just calling back to how materia worked in FFVII, and justifying why you need a job stone equipped at all. You still have to level up because you need to attune to the stone.
>>379002917
I'll wait until dungeons arent a line and there's no tomestones, then I'll buy
>>379029931
I'm already leveling four gather/craft classes, I don't want to level Goldsmithing just to make ingots.
I'll have to do >>379030032 said, but I'll have to make 20k before so.
>>379029946
I don't mean you sell everything individually, I meant you sell a stack, and people could buy single units or small stacks from the mass.
>playing PoTD
Holy shit this is fun.
>>379030472
>he doesn't know about Eureka
>>379019185
wow thats just like everyone on this website
With Job gauges, they can be a little more creative with newer jobs as we've seen with Red Mage and Samurai.
Design a possible new job with the job gauge involved.
>>379030882
It was a great idea. But it would be a whole lot more fun if people actually explored every room and didn't just rush through as fast as possible. That is the major design flaw of the game. Wither its story quests or dungeons, the game encourages people to just skip everything and rush through.
>only healer I have at 60 is WHM
>gonna have to level another one from scratch for SB content
Well shit
>>379031114
>if people actually explored every room
Triggered.
>really like the holy knight crusader aesthetic
>check out PLD skills as they level up
>almost every skill past 30 is just some defensive cooldown
>the rest are just slight variations to the halone 123 combo that either apply a dot or replace halone at fucking level 60
>look up DRK and WAR
>defiance/deliverance mechanics giving you incentive to vary up your combos to attack the enemy crab's weak point for massive damage
>darkside/grit mechanics give you mp management juggling with changing ability usage to be able to flow from one to another
What the fuck, is playing as a crusader as dull as it looks on paper?
>>379031114
I bet you're one of those people who pisses around killing every last enemy for no reason.
>>379031135
>gonna have to level another one from scratch for SB content
Why?
>>379031114
>if people actually explored every room
>>379031239
PLD is just a sword and board knight m8. I don't know what you were expecting.
>>379031135
do you raid, and main healer? if no, then who care.
Do you just want to lv another healer? why not. unless you have limited time
>>379031261
No, I check every room for silver chests though. Sorry I don't want to run the whole thing 6 times to get level 60 gear like you do.
>>379031239
They're getting a shit ton more holy skills in the expansion at least
>>379031356
>>379031228
>>379031261
This is why dungeon keep being tunnel
>>379031239
>What the fuck, is playing as a crusader as dull as it looks on paper?
It's even worse. PLD is the most boring class to play in PvE.
>>379031239
Don't worry they are fixing pld in SB, we will finally become the holy knight we always wanted to be.
>>379031385
>I don't want to run the whole thing 6 times to get level 60 gear
Except this is what every silver retard wants to do? Get as much aetherpool in as few runs as possible by autistically mapping everything out and even killing enemies for a chance to drop more silver?
Normal people just run it and grab silver chests as they come across them.
>>379031356
>>379031385
>run it multiple times faster and get better rewards
>take fucking ages searching for every chest on one run hoping on the low chance that you'll get lucky on one of those silver chests
Gee I wonder which is better.
Did they say we're getting less dungeons in exchange for more non-dungeon content? Because to be honest, dungeons in this game are kinda shit.
Bosses can be varied and some dungeon environments look pretty good, but every FUCKING mob pull (i.e. the 80% of every dungeon) is the same. Round up and aoe them down.
>>379031447
You CANNOT design content meant to be repeated and expect people to not find ways to ease the repetition.
>>379002917
Collect all the accuracy materia I can and play SAM I guess.
>>379031515
>>379031427
>need to get to 70 to enjoy the new changes and get the job flavour I want
Goddammit
no kersti porn
>>379031592
>>379031637
>take fucking ages searching for every chest
I've done PotD 4 times now. In every run, I've never had a time when there was more than 1 or 2 unexplored rooms on a floor. Which takes 10 seconds to check. You know you don't need to run into the room and fight the monsters, right? You just walk around the corner and look to see if there's a chest or not.
But apparently spending 10 extra seconds to check is still too much time for ADD people like you.
>>379031795
>>379026447
>i'm too autistic to do anything in moderation
>>379025031
Well, it is buy FFXIV. But for 50% off.
I put in my early access code from steam but its not sayng my collectors edition is verifed.
>>379031638
that's what I was think when they say they'll install one dungeon and something else.
but /v/ seem be against it.
>>379031239
PLDs are just called Knight in the JP version. They're the royal guard of Ul'dah, not holy crusaders.
If I want to play on PS4, do I need to buy expacs as well as the base game if I already have them on pc?
>>379031871
>>379026447
>Start playing mobage or mobas
>>379032053
>not holy crusaders
>have a shit ton of Holy skills now
>>379020434
You wish that gear actually looked that good on PC's.
Hank Hill ass on damn near every model in this game.
>>379031871
>>379032109
Stop this.
>>379032192
>>379031994
Same, probably wont apply until release
>>379032192
>>379032107
yes
>>379032053
Nothing we can't fix.
What's the most autistic thing you do in this game?
>looking for highest place to afk.
>>379031239
SOON IT WON'T BE
WHERE WERE YOU WHEN PALADIN HAS RETURNED TO TAKE THE HOLY LANDS
>>379032138
You're probably going to get involved with Belah'dian shit. Ul'dah named their royal guard after the Belah'dian Paladins who were magical knights of Azeyma the sun goddess. Ul'dahn Paladins still aren't holy.
>>379032053
That's what they were called in XI too.
>>379031239
Don't worry, they decided to make WAR into a one button job that just spams fell cleave and DRK into a mana warrior that just presses 1-2-3 and uses their not fell cleave. Please look forward to it.
>>379032365
Well I'm more excited about leveling my DoH/DoL to 70 than the rest of the expansion
>>379032412
Yeah but
We aren't ul'dahn paladins, we are free paladins.
I will become a magically holy nophica paladin, you cannot stop me.
>>379032441
Yeah, but in XI they were knights of the San d'Orian church. They were actually holy crusaders.
>>379032586
Nothing about their abilities or anything in XI suggested they were the crusaders you speak of, but okay.
>mfw see these FFXIV threads
>I dunno what is going on but it looks fun
I got a character to level 35 or so and quit because I had no idea what to do. ;_;
>>379032650
Except for all the white magic they learned, including Holy.
>>379031028
>Chemist
>Uses a customized gun with 2 phial attachments
>Has 3 gauges (called remedial, enhance, enfeeble chemical)
>Remedial heals, enhance gives buffs, and enfeeble is used for attacks and debuffs. You can only attach one phial on your gun, or a combination of two which will result in a different effect. You can't have 3 at once
>Phials are restored through MP drain
>You have the typical single target attack, AoE attack etc but effects differ from the phial so it can change to healing, DoT or debuff
>>379031923
Yuzumori-San is too cute, every chapter gives me a mini heart attack.
>>379032242
>>379032209
>>379032192
>>379032109
>>379031871
>>379031795
>>379031592
>>379031356
Dragon Quest X is coming out in the west, right?
>>379032664
On the free trial?
If you like the game then you can get it for 10 dollars and you can continue the main story quest. You'll unlock more stuff to do without limits.
Reminder that Palading is literally just a knight but more honorable
>>379032856
I feel like /v/ would be so disappointed playing DQX. The story is great but the gameplay is so fucking boring it's almost impossible to enjoy.
>>379032664
The game literally holds your hand and tells you what do to. Where did you mess up?
>>379032924
Paladin* reeee
>>379032958
So..it's like FFXIV with a good story?
>>379032664
残念!
>>379032896
Nah I have a standard account. I need to buy a sub it says when I try login.
It's been 1+ year since I played and I only played for like 2-3 weeks and just had no idea what I was doing.
>>379032971
I don't know I got to level 35 or so and didn't know where to go or what to do so I just left it there. I kinda regretted giving up on it too.
>>379032924
Reminder that paladin is basically just a translation error.
>>379033043
Shit on XIV's combat all you want, DQX's combat essentially plays itself outside of boss battles.
>>379033089
It's not a translation error, it's a callback to FFXI, which was a callback to FFIV and their place within the lore as knights of the church.
>>379032958
/v/ is disappointed in everything. But I think the average person would enjoy DQX more than FFXIV. If they actually had a chance to play them and compare.
Especially the FFXI fans who hate FFXIV and are waiting for the 'successor' to FFXI. Which DQX was made by much of the FFXI team. Fun fact, Yoshida also worked on the first release of DQX. So wouldn't you want to try a game that was made by the key people who worked on FFXI and XIV: ARR? Not to mention the producer of Nier and the Dragon Quest team.
Who here NO FUCKING CLUE what they're playing in SB
jesus christ the expansion launches in two weeks and I've only filed down my final choice to, oh I dunno, half the fucking job roster.
>>379033259
>BLM (current main)
>PLD
>RDM
>DRK
>SAM
>DRG
Are all on my radar this time around.
>>379033259
i'm maxing paladin first to enjoy the story spoiler free plus enjoy the fact that paladin finally has non retarded class design, then i'm going to play samurai and red mage
>>379022647
>an onmyo mage was planned for 4.0
What for real? That sounds like it could be cool as hell, I'd rather have that before a red mage, though I could totally understand why they would pick it over an onmyo.
>>379033259
I love nin but I want california fucking nuked, people like this having better ping than me only make me more mad.
>>379033259
I don't see how this is hard. You get two new jobs, those will be something to look forward to.
Then there's jobs that got an overhaul like Machinist or Bard I guess.
Then there's literally everyone else who still plays the same but has new shit. I'd wait these ones out.
>>379033108
>Shit on XIV's combat all you want
I'm actually one of the few who likes FFXIV for its combat (and world design) more than the other stuff.
The story in FFXIV is by far the weakest part to me. Once I got to Heavensward, I just didn't even care anymore and started skipping all the text. I'd like to play DQX if it truly has a good enough story to keep me interested.
>DQX's combat essentially plays itself outside of boss battles.
Even watching some videos can prove this wrong since you play through a menu based system instead of hotkeys. A menu system takes more work than hotkeys do.
>>379033437
It's just a ruse like that one faggot saying Void Mage was planned instead of Summoner.
>>379033259
RDM is the class I play in every RPG so for once I'm actually not constantly flip flopping on what I want to play.
>>379033259
I'm playing a WHM and DRK because everyone else and their mom will be playing the new classes. And I'll instant queue into every dungeon.
Then in a month or two once everyone burns out of Red Mage, I'll play it myself.
>>379033582
http://twinfinite.net/2017/03/ffxiv-stormblood-new-job-interview/
Eat shit, faggot.
>>379033437
Does the Empire even pose any threat after the end of ARR?
>>379033595
This is a good strategy. I should probably stick with DRK rather than jumping onto the SAMbandwagon
>>379033504
>started skipping the text when the story actually got good
>>379031638
The problem is that SE's track record with "non-dungeon content" is fucking abysmal.
PotD was "good", but the rest is shit like Aquapolis (where people go "Oho, that door trolled me again!" for about an hour and then decide that it's too boring and cumbersome to deal with), Diadem v1 (so bad they literally had to kill it), Lords of Verminion (Tons of love and care put into this and there are maybe a dozen people who enjoy it enough to actually do it), and Diadem v2 (fucking FATE grinding combined with the worst parts of Diadem v1).
They're going to try another Deep Dungeon like PotD, except because they're the most formula-minded devs on the planet, it's going to be the exact same thing and be completely indistinguishable from PotD, and they're going to shunt all the relic bullshit into Eureka, which they basically said Diadem v2 is a preview of.
Past that, the only thing they've mentioned is that off-patches will have a "Super Savage" (aka 2.x "Savage", because this game has really bad nomenclature creep), which is only going to be a single encounter per patch despite the fact that it's just going to be a recycled version of an existing fight.
And that's probably literally it, because SE doesn't actually make a habit of keeping secrets under wraps, unless it's something that we've known is coming for months/years that they just withhold all the details of.
>>379033638
Yes. We only dealt with the small occupying force in Eorzea. TOwards the end of ARR the new Emperor was crowned, we met him in HW because I guess they thought that might be cool or something.
>>379033638
In ARR you were only fighting the scattered remnants of a single Legion which had its support cut off from the homeland. The combined Grand Companies couldn't hold against the remnants of the VIIth Legion (who had also lost their Legatus) at the end of 1.0. Garlemald is fucking brutal and a single Legion could take Eorzea if they didn't happen to run into any primals along the way.
The only reason Gaius didn't take Eorzea in the 20 years he had Ala Mhigo was because he prefers to avoid unnecessary bloodshed. He was searching for ways to force a peaceful resolution while also trying to find a solution to the primals so he didn't have to send his men into the meatgrinder. Gaius even waited for years for civil war to pop up in Ala Mhigo so he could take it without a single casualty.
>>379033259
I have no idea because I love playing so much, I am stuck between BRD, MCH, RDM and SAM.
>>379033637
More like they wanted to add a third but didn't because they managed to make RDM a ranged caster. This is just an idea at best, and not a plan.
FFXI is better :^)
>>379033259
AST through dungeons and roulettes
MCH through MSQ and POTD to 70
Gonna be good. Also everyone will be bandwagoning fags playing AST which sucks, at least my Lux relic will be my glamour.
MCH will be too complex for shitters to understand and I'll fully enjoy differentiating myself.
>>379033259
>BLM, AST, SAM, BRD, MCH
it's fine, i only need 4 different armor sets and about 100 hours in potd
>>379032192
Are you guys trying to summon me?!
>>379033950
if it was better people would play it
>>379033950
Better at being dead lmao
>>379033692
>have to get through 250 story quests before the story gets good
The developers did this to themselves. Just like they encouraged people to rush through dungeons with bad planning.
>>379033826
So the only reason everyone dislikes the empire is because they worship that dark crystal (and butthurt ala mhigos), right?
Because I don't see anything bad in killing off the primal gods.
>>379002917
why do japs sleep on the floor?
>>379033950
*was
>>379032365
Learning the good lighting angles of all the places where I potentially have to stand still at (i.e. market boards, bells, NPCs) so my character doesn't look like a spoopy flashlight-holding person
>>379034271
so they can be closer to hell
>>379034271
BecauseShut up Nohten
>>379034228
They don't worship the dark crystal. That's Zodiark, the Ascian god.
People don't like Garlemald because they're rushing through fucking up everyone in their path. Their current mission is to kill the primals, but they only stumbled upon that after conquering the entire continent of Ilsabard and moving into Othard. Men like Gaius and Regula believe in that mission, but the truth is that it's only an excuse for their conquest. And three of the Eorzean primals only exist in the first place because the Garleans were threatening to genocide the beast tribes there. Before 15 years ago, no primals existed in Eorzea.
Anyone else thinks RDM is going to have some major MP problems? They only have role skill mp regen I believe.
>>379033259
Just a reminder that this what most reddit will be playing and what job you will see most in dungeon .http://www.strawpoll.me/13104822/r
>>379034207
>>379034154
It's 15 years old, and still alive and well, Asura has ~1.9k people playing, 2k on weekends and there's still lots of end game content people play regularly like ambuscade and omen. The game is far from dead, still a few hundred thousand subscribers.
15 years from now do you think XIV will have that many subs? I doubt it. I played XIV for about a year until I just got bored of it, it's a lifeless game, and there's just not that much special about it compared to other MMOs.
>>379034228
People hate the Empire because they've been shallow villains. People only like them for their armor.
>>379034412
Just ewer them
>>379014172
But that was the best because Daddy of Light looks like hot fucking garbage. Square could have literally burned that part of the XIV budget and had a better result.
>>379032138
>crusader
>confusing paladins with clerics
>>379034480
15 years from now we'll have already moved on to another game, so it doesn't matter what happens to XIV then.
I don't know what's the point in clinging on to a game. I'm willing to bet the people still playing XI are just doing it out of nostalgia, or they accidentally committed so much into it that it would be a waste to let go.
>>379034412
Yes. They have TP skills but that wouldn't last very long for costing 100 per skill.
>>379034412
i'm imagining RDM's MP to function like a melee's TP
as in it'll never be a problem unless it's a raid boss that lasts for 10+ minutes
>>379034279
FFXI still has the same feel the old game had, there's still exp parties, but you grind capacity for job points these days, but yes, a lot of the normal, non high end content is solo now, and honestly it's better that way. The old FFXI was good only because it was what we had at the time. Fuck, deep down it's still the exact same game, the mechanics are all the same, and there's a shit ton more content. The grind for relics / empy / mythic / aeonic weapons still exists, and it's very much a fucking grind.
Fuck, if you want the Geomancer's weapon, you have to literally grind over 6 months, I'm not kidding either, you have to basically log in at least once every 3-4 days and do shit for 6 months straight to get legend rank in all 6 Aldouin coalitions just to get the weapon, and you have to grind more shit on top of that.
>>379034480
>>379034431
They're playing buffed easy classes but not touching the non meta and harder meta classes. Lol.
>>379034431
>tfw im apparently the biggest hipster
>>379034480
> there's just not that much special about it compared to other MMOs.
maybe you just spend too much time in xiv?
MMorpg in general decay and will always disappoint me no matter what i play.
>>379031239
>>379032398
see
>>379034630
Paladins =/= Templars/Crusaders
The standard Cleric class in MMOs and RPGs is modeled after the Knights Templar and Crusaders, while Paladins draw inspiration from sources such as Arthur's knights like Lancelot and Gallahad, St. George, or simply Charlemagne's Paladins.
>>379034431
>SAM at number one
Of course.
>>379034894
Finally, someone who actually has a brain around here.
>>379034690
>Fuck, if you want the Geomancer's weapon, you have to literally grind over 6 months, I'm not kidding either, you have to basically log in at least once every 3-4 days and do shit for 6 months straight to get legend rank in all 6 Aldouin coalitions just to get the weapon, and you have to grind more shit on top of that.
That's basically what getting Jedi was on SWG. Before the Combat Update of course.
I hated grinding MMOs back in the day. But after playing so many of these themepark solo MMos, I'm starting to long for the old days. FFXIV or Tree of Savior would be perfect if they just get rid of gaining EXP through quests and increased EXP from monsters by a factor of 10. Let people go out and level on monsters/hunting logs/leve's and etc. Then the story is optional and gives you money/other rewards. Both types of MMO players win.
Except Yoshida.
>>379034690
XI was good when it offered a wide variety of content you could essentially do at your own pace with friends. Where there were no 'item levels' required for content, and the story missions posed at least some level of non-faceroll fights (CoP pre-nerf).
Obnoxious grinds and EXP parties were the things you did to get to the good parts of the game. Making almost everything very easily solo/duo/trioable certainly opens up the possibility of more of the fun content, but when I went back my friends and I finished pretty much everything that game had to offer now in a month. Only thing left was the grinding, which serves no real purpose unless you REALLY like grinding.
>>379034431
I certainly see DRG, DRK and SCH the most in my runs.
>>379034431
https://youtu.be/ZZDzf_wguQU
>those slow moving low tier votes
Something I've never thought about. What's it like playing it in 30 fps?
>>379035242
>monsters/hunting logs/leves
You could do this in the lower levels and it already felt like a slog then.
I refuse to believe there are people who actually have a hard on for killing defenseless trash mobs in the field. Making the EXP obtainable via quests/running content with other players makes the leveling process much less painful.
>>379035432
Not any different.
>>379035242
How is the grind these days in FFXIV?
Like, I mean how difficult is it to obtain the ultimate, best weapon for a class, compared to FFXI was?
These days in XI, if you're really dedicated, and have a good job to do it quickly, with good gear, you can easily grind out a relic, or a mythic, or an empy weapon in a few weeks to a month, assuming you have a good chunk of gil as well.
>>379034840
Hello fellow MCH bro
We gonna be special snowflakes, we'll show who's the boss of dps
>been playing PLD since 1.0
The time has come and so have I.
>>379035432
screen goes black since you can't see 30fps
>>379035242
>That's basically what getting Jedi was on SWG
Friend of mine got it on his last profession, fucking Merchant. I miss that game.
>>379035503
>I refuse to believe there are people who actually have a hard on for killing defenseless trash mobs in the field.
I don't have a 'hard on' for it. But after doing the main story queswts in FFXIV and then just doing pure fighting for my second quest, it was both faster and less annoying. I could get from level 1-15 in 2 hours just using the hunting logs and a few leves. And after that, just doing the dungeons and PotD, I was averaging about 75% of a level per 30 minute dungeon.
All that constant warping, returning to NPCs and reading dialogue actually takes a lot longer. And it a lot more taxing. Having to return to the waking sands about 100 times nearly made me quit the game. But others will prefer it of course.
I can play now. I'm gunna sub the game when it hit 12 am.
need to get my tank to 60 for mentorship, should I lv by dungeon or POTD?
>PoTD
>auto heal disabled
>no heal in party
>>379035943
Potion.
Pom.
>>379035913
Dungeon.
What's gonna be more retard proof? RDM or SAM? My dumbass needs to know.
>>379035943
That's what potions and rotating aggro are for
>>379036074
SAM
>>379036074
SAM.
Probably.
I dunno.
>>379036074
Sam is retardproof it looks like.
RDM looks like it'll be garbage if you don't play it right.
>>379036074
Sam skill floor is much lower but optimal play for either will probably be similar.
>>379036063
ok thanks anon
>>379035570
I've only done stage two of the relic weapon. Wasn't that hard. I was able to do it in about 4 hours. But each quest after that, they add more stuff. Looking over the requirements, I would estimate it would probably take about a month to get the max relic weapon (called Zeta or whatever it is). But again, I'm in the middle of doing it right now.
On the flip side, you can just run PotD a few times and get a weapon not that much lower in stats. Conceivably within one day.
>>379035886
I don't prefer the story quests. It's shit EXP, but less shit than hunting logs/leves which are limited and eventually fall behind. Nothing will beat dungeons and potd, however.
>>379036143
>RDM looks like it'll be garbage if you don't play it right
I'm really hoping it's one of those retardedly complex classes that you feel great about playing right.
>>379034431
>http://www.strawpoll.me/13104822/r
>The top 5 are also my top 5
Thanks alot for the great expansion Yoshi.
>>379036182
Hunting logs are limited, but leves are repeatable. They're also the most boring shit in the game.
I agree that it mostly comes down to dungeons. At least they have a little variety, even if its just getting angry at a shit tank or getting some occasional gear.
>>379036302
It's not. It's just proc-based with 2 parallel rotation to balance the mana.
>>379036302
It just requires paying attention to your mana and saving procs to keep things balanced. Which is way more than your average DF shitter can handle.
1) What's going to be the hardest class to play in SB in each role?
2) Is the effort actually going to pay off?
>>379034431
>tfw mains are MNK and MCH
Good, I will be safe
>>379034480
>the same neckbeards who have 16+ hours a day to waste on MMORPG will still be playing it in 15 years
woopdy fucking doo
>>379036161
Pretty much.
Let's see what's the difference between a good SAM and a bad one.
>>379036337
>Legs magically vanish when they reach the feet.
>>379035943
>He doesnt use potions
faggot
>>379036302
what's a class that actually does this?
I tried MCH and it's just memorization
>>379036557
>gyoten
>yaten
>enbi
>walk back into range
>meikyo shisui
>open each of the 3 sen
>midare
>kaiten
>guren
please rook forward to it
>>379036721
>kaiten
>guren
Every time.
>>379036721
I will.Though a xaela sam just doesn't feel right
>>379036721
MCH is probably the closest you'll get in this game. Some people say NIN is hard but I'm shit at remembering combos in things and even I find it really easy.
>>379036181
That doesn't sound bad at all. FFXI todayy is still the same system, for relics you farm dynamis for days, or if you have hundreds of tens of thousands of gil you just buy what yoyu need from bazaars, and the AH these days stocks ancient currency too. Mythics are a little harder, as are empys because there are these bullshit weapon trials for them that you still have to grind through. The newer aeonic weapons I don't know much about, but they look like a massive grind as well in the Escha areas.
FFXIV still appeals to me somewhat, maybe I'll reactivate one of these days. When I was playing the level cap was still 40, before Heavensward came out.
>>379036721
just play healer, there's no combo, just need better reflex and careful planning.
In raid, the boss is not the monster, the boss is your own party.
>>379037091
The difference is that when you do well with a difficult party as a healer you just feel angry instead of fulfilled.
>>379037091
The enemy is the tank. It's always the fucking tank...
>>379037091
I play healer long enough to know which idiot will take lots of damage from the start.
I always give them extra shield and regen before hand than any other member. It's like im secretly being condescending to them.
>>379020750
This image is pretty much me but...I play a Lala and my secondary character is the roe I fap to. Am I doing something wrong?
>>379037372
If I see someone doing something wrong, I just let them mess up. If they mess up once, I overlook it. But if they do it a second time, I tell them what they're doing wrong in chat. If they are nice, then they usually accept my advice and learn to stop doing it. But occasionally you get the stubborn meat heads who just do the opposite just out of spite. Those people usually leave the instance after cussing me out. Then the people who remain all agree with me and give me rep at the end.
>they don't kill the ADDs
>>379037549