Is it better than 4 and 5?

None of the persona games are good

/thread

>>378996474

I found the characters from 3 the least obnoxious. The freedom you have in 3 to go dungeon crawling and do other activities at your leisure was also a lot more enjoyable. I think it beats out 4/5 in everything except dungeons/the SMT demon coversations 5 included/better established locations (more so 5 because of less graphical limitations)

>>378996474
It does a few things better than 4 & 5, but is ultimately inferior due to being the first of its kind. So no.

>>378996474
They are all exactly the same.

>>378996810

>/threading own post
>Massive faggot

Pick two

lol no. I thought we were done with the 5 isnt the best persona meme anon

>>378996474

No

It sucks

>>378996474
No, it's the weakest entry in the series, but that doesn't stop it from being my favorite.

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>>378996810
>/threading your own post

>>378996474
No. The characters are bland as fuck, the pacing is fucked, the gameplay is hindered by dumb teammate AI, and it's a bit long. It at least has a stronger story than P4; that's its only strength. P5 is the best of the 3.

Do you cut yourself and listen to Nine Inch Nails?

If so the answer is yes.

If not, then no. It's clearly the worst of the three.

>>378996474
5>3>4

>>378996474
I'm playing it now after 5. I like this team than 5, but maybe I'm saying that because I'm burnt out on 5.

>>378997000
That right there is some good taste anon

>>378996867
I found most of the characters in 3 to be bland. Junpei's the only one I found interesting.

>>378996474
Gameplay wise no.
Character and story wise

>>378997171
>Character wise
No.

>>378997171
also no?

Forgot to finish your post?

>>378997236
Yes

>>378997135

Well your entitled to your opinion but I found 3/4's characters were more cringe and fell into basic anime tropes

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>>378996867
>Saying the characters are the least obnoxious when Junpei exists

>>378997272
Character and story wise yes.

Pros:

Mitsuru

Cons:

Literally everything else

>>378997323

*4/5 whoops lol

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>>378997171
>has never played p2

>>378997323
I don't really think P3 had this problem. The characters in P3 were even blander than just being tropes (with a few exceptions).

>>378997429
This thread is about 3 vs 4 and 5.

>>378997352

Junpei is a total bro don't hate man.

>>378997429
The gameplay is so shit that I can't finish them.

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>>378997429
Tatsuya to me still has hilariously odd hair.

>>378997429
pls tell me that person with the red hair is a girl or else my dicks gonna be really confused

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>>378996474
yes

>>378997546
t. Never played a real SMT

>>378996474
Personally I think it's kinda like Disgaea, minus the fact that we always ignore 1 and 2.
>3 = Best story and characters, shitty gameplay.
>4 = Middle ground of story and characters,
average gameplay.
>PQ = Good story, 50/50 characters and best gameplay.
>5 = Shitty story and characters, great gameplay.
Overall I'd say 4 is the most likeable, honestly. Even though I didn't really like it.

>>378997568
Are you blind? Of course it's a girl.

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>>378997546
Doesn't make the story any less good.

Leave story and bosses to P2.

>>378997429
Yeah so, I am not saying p3 is the best persona game character and storywise, I just said that it was better than p4 and p5 on that department.

>>378997640
I have. P2 is too fucking easy.

>>378997135
>I found most of the characters in 3 to be bland.
Same, especially the main ones, some of the other social links were good, but overall three had the worst main cast other than the first game and the worst overall story. 3 fans also hate on four and five for not being as "complex" but then omit the fact that 3 had basically a whole fucking second game to elaborate its shit with.

>>378997352
>anime
Not canon

>>378997543
Nigga Junpei is a giant dumb cunt whos just obnoxious and jealous of door kun to the point of compromising a mission . He only becomes slightly bearable whenever chidori comes into contact with him

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>>378997708
Remember Ken?

"I was going to kill you and then kill myself."

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>>378997702
>EP
>Easy
What did he mean by this?

>>378997810
Does that make him a good character?

>>378996810
1st post worst post

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>>378997664
>P5 has a shitty story but P4 is alright

>>378997912
I literally said I never finished it because of the gameplay. I could never
make it through the chore that is IS.

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Goddamn why the hell did Persona 4 not have fusion spells

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>>378997664
>5 = Shitty story and characters

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>>378997689
>Are you blind? Of course it's a girl.
>Expecting me to trust an anime to make a boy look like a boy

>>378997912
Is EP that much better? I might try to power through IS if it is that good.

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Can we all agree that locking character development behind social/confidant links like 4 and 5 do was a mistake and naturally integrating it into the story like 3 does is the best way to go?

>>378997810
I see people like that a college every day anon

>>378998232
I think so too, Ryuji being more like his confidant self in the mainstory would have made him way better.

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>>378998232
Yes, I liked being able to do more side character s. links while having the main characters get developed through the plot

>>378997996
P4's the one most people are more likely to enjoy, I also just said I didn't like it much.

It's not a pain like the gameplay of 3 and it's story, while not particularly great is a lot more fun than 5.
5 takes itself too seriously, but not enough to actually make anything leave an impact. I'd be honestly surprised if people cried during 5, it felt so lifeless.

>>378998101
They're the same as every other game, except they get even less development than 4's cast.
5 is even basically the exact same story as 4, but the characters get glossed over more.

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>>378998232
Definitely, social links/confidants don't have to be the primary area of character development, they can develop another area/problem of that character while them still having a character arc in the main plot.

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>>378998156
EP is actually challenging and not just autobattle. Might be the hardest persona game.

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>>378998080
Not strong enough wildcard.

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>>378998827
Leave fusion spells to us.

>>378998971
>Can't even use fusion spells by himself
Heh

>>378996474
It has a lot of great characters and good ideas but 4 and 5 are simply more refined versions of the same concept.

>>378996474
Gameplay-wise: no.
Everything else: yes.

>>378997429
He didn't say anything about the titles pre-3 dumbass.

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>>378999151
Tatsuya solos

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>>378999735
Don't be in denial p3baby

>>378998080
It was a counter intuitive idea that made you cling onto specific persona instead of getting new ones. A better use of the idea would be using 2 arcana instead of precise persona but that would make the requirements too easy and OP if the spells are just as good from those in P3.

>>378999856
Do you have serious brain damage? Even I didn't say anything about pre-3.

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>>379000029

>>378996474
It's has the benefit of having a better final act compared to 4 and 5's disappointing final acts. Unfortunately, every thing else about it pales in comparison to the other two.

>>378996474

All three Persona games (3-4-5) are about equal level.

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>>379000174
I guess you do.

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>>379000491

>>379000567
God, Chie's such a bitch.

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>>378999764
>Can't even survive an armageddon

>>378996474
It's my favorite.

Still trying to finish P5 but the game turned into a complete slog in summer.

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>>379000567

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>>379000778
Leave SEES to me

I think we can agree that
Ryuji > Yosuke

>>378998232
Half your party in 3 didn't even have S. Links so they didn't really have much of a choice than to have story-integrated character development.

I wish there was different dialogues in the later parts of the game for characters with maxed out Social Links.

>>379000960
Junpei > Ryuji > Yosuke.

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>>379000960
Yosuke at least didn't cause problems and isn't retarded. Even though he's a yes man

>>379001168
>Even though he's a yes man
That's the worst kind of character.

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>>379000995
>Half your party in 3 didn't even have S. Links
And thank god for that.
3 had some based social links.

>>379000995
P3P did it just fine though.

>>379000960
Ryuji is the worst "bro" of all time. He starts off fine but actually goes through negative development

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>>379001353

Amazing game but not as good as 4 or 5

I found myself spending half the nights in P3 wasting time because I had run out of social links to do. Meanwhile my Sundays were fucking packed with social links I could barely complete.

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>>379000956
I'd like to see you try.

>>379001471
I would replay it again but I don't want to buy the PSP version or deal with retard AI in FES ever again. Also the character portrait art really sucks ass.

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>>379001861
Use Tactics.

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>>379001789
>Power of the universe
>Cant even defeat Nyx without sealing himself
>Nyxs' best feat is bringing down the moon

>Nyarl casually destroys a universe with a thought
>Is literally unkillable
>Tatsuya and crew defeat him anyway

Leave the door to me

>>378996810
I kinda agree but that music though

So what's the with the different methods of summoning Personae in 3/4/5? To me, it's as if the gang in 3/5 force them out unlike 4 where it seems more "natural"

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>>379002294
>BABY BABY BABY
>DEEP BREATH DEEP BREATH
>SOME DANCES
>I NEVER FELT LIKE

>Good

>>379002482
Chalked it up to environments affecting how easy it is to bring out one's persona.

>>379002673
Does that mean Inaba is canonically the comfiest location?

>>379002734
They summoned them inside Tv world

>>379002734
No, just the TV world.

>>379002557
Who says I was talking about persona 3 ost lol

>>379002557
https://youtube.com/watch?v=dfHfR1jAzWQ
https://youtube.com/watch?v=1Wi1Y8cmjyM
https://youtube.com/watch?v=gLd5eabSJ3g

If you don't think this is the tightest shit then you can fuck off.

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>>379002294
I liked FeMC songs the most.
Time and Way of Life are so comfy.

>>379002782
>>379002786
Are we pretending the TV World isn't connected to Inaba in someway?

>>379002557
https://youtu.be/9TFrprd130U

Hitler has one of the best boss themes in Persona

>>379002950
Outside the TV world they can't summon persona dingus. What I was saying was that the metaverse, tv world and dark hour influence how easy it is to bring out their persona.

>>379003002
Rivers in the Desert is still the king.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NWkprpRcgc

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>>379002193
>fucked up the first time
>Couldn't even save his waifu
>Needed philemon to bail his bitch ass out and get a do over in an alternate timeline to not fuck up again.
>Didn't even get his waifu in the end

>Became euphoric as fuck and found the answer of life itself.
>Saved the world and all his waifus in one go no need for do overs.
>Still has atleast 2 waifus staying pure for him
>one waifu is still looking for a way to bring him back.

Leave Tatsuya to me.

>>379002193
>Nyxs' best feat is bringing down the moon
Nyx's only real action was attacking the protagonist with stupid amounts of damage, but I don't think that was a conscious thought on it's part. The moon falling was just Nyx reviving, not any kind of attack or world ending plan.
The in game fight was against Ryoji/Avatar, not Nyx.

I'm not saying the Door's stronger or anything though, I have no clue.

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>>379003083
Reminder that the P1 and P2 crew are walking around with their Personas which are basically stands as they can use in the real world.

>>379003263
Reminder that the P3 and 4 casts can do that too.

>>379003263
P3 crew can use them in the real world as well.

>>379003408
I know the p3 cast could do that in p4arena, but since when can the p4 cast do that?

>>379003408
Since when could the p4 cast do it? I remember rise saying she couldn't use her persona outside of the tv world.

>>379003408
I never played Arena but I thought there had to be special conditions for the P4 crew to use them.

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>>379003179
Cause Nyx is weak.

Leave all of P3-P5 to me

>>379003538
>>379003543
>>379003580
P3 cast could always do it from the get go, but I seem to recall it happened in Arena for the P4 cast.

Maybe they can't yet then, but there's no reason to assume that they can't eventually.

>>379003642
If Door-kun was there Nyarly wouldn't even get the chance to destroy the world.
He would become a door that keeps Nyarly out forever.
Checkmate.

>>378998232
P3 has a problem where the MC has no input in the story events. You basically watch in sidelines as the characters go through their drama. The s. link system is better since you feel involved in their arcs.

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>>379004126
You'll have to get past Hitler and his anti persona mechs.

>>378996924
Do you have no respect for innovation? Persona 4&5 are practically carbon copies of persona 3 with a new story tacked on

>>379004192
I can see what you mean, but I liked that everyones lives didn't just revolve around you and that the characters had their own problems and arcs that you didn't solve or were part off.

>>379004192
The MC can't be fucking everywhere.

How the hell do you expect the MC to deal with Akhiko's shit? He ain't the guy who can solve his shit by simply just talking bullshit like the other Persona protags. I'd rather see certain characters deal shit on their own or with other characters in the game than be the center of attention all the damn time and fuckers literally not being able to do anything without you.

>>379004415
I have a great deal of respect for P3. Doesn't make it the better game, though.

Been playing P3 for a while now and for fucks sake, Tartarus is so fucking boring, when does it get better?

>>379004227
Just give Door-kun a pair of jacks gloves and he will punch his way through them.

>>379004883
>Tartarus is so fucking boring, when does it get better?
Never.

>>379004883
I have some bad news anon...

literally worst dungeon in persona

yes, I'm counting P1 too. at least they aren't rng

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>>378996474
In some regards absolutely. However the game really hasn't aged very well, Tartarus is a chore, and the storyline taking a break halfway through really hurt it.

Mitsuru is still best girl in the franchise though.

>>379005247
First person, grid based dungeon crawling is horrendous. I can't imagine ever playing those and having fun. Yes I know you'll call me pleb for hating on garbage like Strange Journey and EO.

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>>379005451
Out. Now.

>>378998232
Absolutely, P4 and 5 really could have benefited from certain characters growing the heck up over the course of the story

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>>379005451

>>379005630
Ryuji did grow up though. You can see it right at the end when he calls you during Shido's arc.

>>379005084
>>379005247
Can't really enjoy the game because of it, should I just skip to 4 or 5?

>>379005247
You mean randomly generated dungeons, right? I really hope you're not implying Tartarus was harder than P1 dungeons.

Overall P1P was easier until Pandora, but there was some bullshit moments in the random encounters.

>>379004843
Persona 5 dragged horrifically towards the end, especially with the evening text messages, and persona 4 just wasn't as fun as either 3 or 5. So many would say it is the better game

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>>379005761
Eh in 4 you'll be met with dungeons that are randomly generated hallways similar to Tartarus with a few fixed floors (mostly wherever there's a cutscene). Most dungeons are usually between 10-15 floors.

>>378996474
Absolutely not

The only bad thing about P3 is Tartarus, after a while you get used to it. Unlike the dungeons that you wish were over already in 4 and 5.

>>379006000
dope trips

>>379005957
But at least those dungeons have unique aesthetics and music, really an improvement over Tartarus - although Palaces obviously blow both away

>>378996474
Better than 4, worse than 5, gets absolutely shit on by 2

5 has best gameplay
4 has best cast
3 has most interesting overall story

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>>379006067
>Palaces
>good

They were fucking linear hallways. I'd take Tartarus over those brain dead straight lines any day. Not to mention stealth mechanics are OP as fuck so you open 99% of fights with an ambush, where's the challenge in that?

>>379006159
1 and 2 have absolute garbage gameplay, there's a reason why the only people who like them are hipsters on /v/

5>3>4

>>379005761
You can, sinve your main gripe is tartarus you might even want to just skip to p5.
P4 has the same kind of randomly generated dungeons as tartarus, the only real difference between tartarus and the p4 dungeons is that each dungeon has a different skin and music.
The battles themselves in p4 are more streamlined since you can control your party members.
If you're going to play 4 play 4 golden the vita version if you can.

>>379006067
Palaces are just gimmicks with unbalanced stealth mechanics, P3's is way too repetitive, P4's has a nice balance but ultimately fails to do anything great.
Now PQ has the best dungeons in Persona, barring maybe P2 because I don't know about that game.

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>>379006214
>4
>best cast

A single great character, does not a cast make.

>>379006449
P2 dungeons are shit with too high of an encounter rate.

>>378996474
Only the story and plot are better.

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>>378997804
>you'll never be the man

>>379004642
My gripe is how the MC was practically a non-MC in the main story until very end. The MC is usually an acting force in stories. In P3 he's just a witness and your role as the player is the same.

I think this was handled better in P5 where the Joker was an important piece of the story from the start plus the other team acknowledges your existence and keeps asking your opinion, even if it has no real impact.

It wouldn't been as bad in P3 if the MC had an arc of his own alongside with the other characters. Now he was just there.

>>379004642
To be fair, they did the exact same shit in P3P and that worked out fine. Better even.

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>>379006590
You shouldn't be the leader though. If Yukari wasn't a coward and Junpei a massive faggot, Mitsuru would never have made you field commander. Frankly the only reason you're so special is your wildcard ability, but Mitsuru and Akihiko are both vastly more qualified than you to lead the group forward.

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>>379006828
>Junpei a massive faggot
Why you gotta be like that?

>>379005761
Probably, Tartarus is garbage. >>379006518
Estoma, other than that they are better than the RNG shit. Definitely better than Tartarus at least. They never get long enough for you to hate them.

>>379006590
>if the MC had an arc of his own alongside with the other characters.
His Arc is the entire game where he gradually becomes a better person who cares for his friends.

>>379006518
So PQ confirmed best Persona game then?

>>379006590
Well, they do seem to somewhat improve as the series goes on.

>P3 doesn't have the MC be close enough to SEES, they fix that in P3P fem route and P4
>P4 doesn't really have the other social links do much so they really integrate them into P5's stories and cutscenes.

That said, I honestly feel P5's social links and team is not as close as P4's. The Phantom team doesn't even have its own social link.

>>379007406
P4 also had the party dicksuck the MC too much but P5 had them dicksuck him the right amount.

>>378997664
I agree with this actually

P5 was extremely boring to play. I played it on and off for weeks. Thats never happened to me before with a persona game, where i just wanted to keep playing until i fell asleep. Game feels really dull and lifeless despite all its grandeur and le style meme

>>379006274
>Linear
>Bad
When will this meme die?

>all this PQ love

It's just Fan Service: The Game

>>379002137
>that comic
literally cringed

>>379006828
From story point they would be better leaders. But as the player you know better. You're a tactical genius compared to AI which creates a discrepancy. There is no such problem in the sequels where your natural competence is instantly acknowledged.

But my original point was how MC didn't interact with the party. He could've been their whipping boy or butt of the joke and he'd already be a bigger part of the story.

>>379007296
I missed that subtext. To me he was just a blank state given some power and a task to form some links.

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>>379007932
He's too far gone if he thinks Tartarus is better

>>379006274
as opposed to what? waiting 5 minutes for the shadow to turn around? running up to it and then running back until it disappears from the minimap? that's an inconvenience not a challenge

>>379007932
When players stop wanting games to play themselves and feel like exploring.

>>379008074
>To me he was just a blank state given some power and a task to form some links.
Basically yeah, but you can gather a bit more about him from his dialogue options. Same with Brotagonist and Joker. They're mostly blank slates too, but they've got a little bit of a personality.

MovieMC is basically exactly what my impression of him was. I know it's not canon, but that's not important at all.

>>379007972
PQ is one of the worst games I have ever played
thanks in no small part to the awful awful characters.
Fuck you Rei. Fuck You Teddie. Fuck You, Yosukue, etc

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We can all agree that femc p3p did party social links the best right?

>>379008727
why? because you finally got to fuck all the boys faggot?

>>379008493
MovieMC took it too far. I do like how other characters - especially Yukari - react negatively towards his laconic apathy though, that was a smart move.

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>>379008097
>Palaces
>Better than Tartarus
At least Tartarus wasn't 'wait a minute that card tier'.

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>>379008778
>not wanting more shota in games

Fuck off normie

>>379008778
No because you had a social link with all your party members making you feel.close to them individually, but their world doesn't revolve around you like in p4 and to a lesser extend in p5.

>>379008714
>thanks in no small part to the awful awful characters.
Which aside from 2 characters was exactly the same fucking casts you all praise endlessly.

Yeah, yeah. PROTEIN, MEAT, etcetera etcetera. Don't act like they were anything super deep in the first place.

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>>379008830
>>379008410
>>379006274
>/v/ is now so contrarian they defend Tartarus

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>>379008952
>Persona 4's dungeons are better right guys!
>No no, the TV World is clearly better than Tartarus guys!
>Haha yeah Tartarus is the worst dungeon in the series!

>>379009025
I like how it's the exact same image every time

Tartarus is shite and everyone knows it

>>379009025
Not the same guy, but p4 dungeons are slightly better, because each dungeon has a different aesthetic and music to make it feel less repetitive.
Saying that p5 dungeons are worse than the tartarus and p4 dungeons is just being delusional.

>>379009025
P4's enemies that detected you without LoS and ridiculously shit sword swing killed the dungeons for me.

>>379008908
t. faggot in denial of the fact he only liked feMC because he finally got to fuck akihiko

>>379009295
>but p4 dungeons are slightly better
Dunno my man,I though they were worse than P3's because I felt I wasted too much time on a floor,the monsters encounters bullshit didn't help

>>379009143
The usual image is either Yukiko's dungeon or Inaba's

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>>379009790
God I hated Inaba's, instead of doing something neat like in Mitsuo's it was literally DUDE BACKTRACKING when they already pulled that stunt in Naoto's dungeon.

>>379009295
P5 dungeons were just a slog though. Like 1-2 of them were fun, the rest were just annoying gimmicks and "puzzles" that a even a Special School enrolled child could figure out.

>>379009994
These were actually fun because even if the layout was simple (not everything needs to be le deep mind riveting experience omg im such a dungeon explorer x3) it felt like you were actually exploring peoples twisted desires and minds. P5 is a shameless retread of P4 and barely upgrades from it

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>>379009790
No shit, a bit longer floors gave us less overall floors. Tartarus is 256 floors of the same shit, they didn't even bother to lube your ass (p4 redesigns and music) before they went in dry with Tartarus in P3.

>>379009483
Whatever you say, hombre.
No need to project so hard.

>>379010174
>P5 is a shameless retread of P4 and barely upgrades from it
P5 in a nutshell desu.

MORE LIKE STUPEI
ACE DEFECTIVE

>>379010440
Mementos is even worse than Tartarus but thankfully it was shorter.

>>379010174
(you)

>>379010543
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOt7KSzmc5A
:^)

>>379010543
Mementos was mainly just a side dungeon were you could grind shit and do some sidequest.
By the end of the game with ryuji instakill skill you can just waltz through the entire thing in a hour or so.

>>379010696
Fuck you

>>378996474
Better than 4
Not better than 5.

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How would this friendship even work?

>>379010543
>Mementos is even worse than Tartarus
Wow P3 fags actually believe this?

https://youtu.be/IstQEy_G0Yg

>>379010838
autism

>>379010875
I would say they are both equally bad.
Mementos has an edge over tartarus since it isn't the only dungeon and you can get through way faster than tartarus.

>>379010838
>Constant compliments about each other's hair.
>Fashion discussion.
>Sharing clothes.
>Autistic crab comparing.
>Yusuke talks stupidly while Door-kun comments sarcastically and Naoto parrots it all.

>>379010007
Not gonna lie the last Sayuri puzzle fucked me up at the end

>>378996474
- 200 replies

Has this thread come to an agreement yet?

>>379011284
do we ever?

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Koromaru > Eng Teddie > Morgana > JP Teddie

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>>379011284
P2 is better /thread

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I finally finished P5 but it left me with a few questions.

I've never played a Persona game before so bare with me. Every Persona game takes place in the same universe, right?

Wouldn't the cast of let's say P4 kind of assume that the Phantom Thieves involves Personas?

>>379011372
>Teddie
>Better than Morgana
No. Fuck that bear and fuck his gay partner Yosuke.

>>379010527
So this is the height of autism

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>>379011284
>Has (Persona) thread come to an agreement yet?

>>379011484
>Wouldn't the cast of let's say P4 kind of assume that the Phantom Thieves involves Personas?
They wouldn't at all, and how could they even if they were smart enough to do so?

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>that one scene where Sojiro was calling Ann a sweet girl
What the fuck was that all about?

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>>379011372
Except for teddy being better than Morgana, I agree.
Doggo's are always the best companions.

>>378996474
no

>>379011640
>They wouldn't at all, and how could they even if they were smart enough to do so?
The Phantom Thieves was really trending in Japan. They were all bound to see it on TV.

The Phantom Thieves were changing hearts. Something supernatural. What is also supernatural that the P4 cast knows? Oh that's right. Personas.

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>>379011372
JP Kuma was a mistake.

>>379011656
He was trying to relate to a teeange girl and was probably thinking of futaba.

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>>379011656
You know what it was about anon

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>>379011776
Blame Hashino the writer, they like keeping the games separate. P1, P2, P3, and P4 crew are still around. It'll never be explained

>>379011941
Hoo-boy

>>379010875
He's right through. At least Tartarus let you change the music.

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>>379011484
No idea.
From what I heard p1 and p2 cast got mindwiped at the end of their game, but the p3 cast have no excuse.
The p3 cast actually started a secret organization to deal with persona and shadow related stuff.

>>379012105
>The p3 cast actually started a secret organization to deal with persona and shadow related stuff.
What the fuck? Tbh they shouldn't be all in the same universe.

>>379011776
>They were all bound to see it on TV.
Doesn't mean they'd know it was about Personas/Shadows, and it doesn't mean they'd have anyway of finding out who's involved to contact. Let alone have the ability to actually interfere with the game itself.

They're good natured people, but they're not exactly that smart. Then again it's never gonna be explained at all regardless of whether they're able to in universe.

>>379012105
Maybe we could chalk it up to Yaldy twisting stuff around to stop interferences?

>>379012105
There are two universes for the Persona series
P1 > P2IS

P1 > P2EP > P3 > P4 > P5
So P1 and P2EP characters are fine.

>>378996474
No, it's the weakest of the modern Persona games. Still great though.

>>379012359
I wasn't talking about the P4 cast finding out the P5 identities. It's really not hard to connect the dots that the Phantom Thieves involves Personas. The P4 cast will remember that shit their entire life.

>>379012232
It should be fine since everyone's mind gets wiped at the end of these games. The P4 arena games just added a shitton of unnecessary/bad writing and frankly shouldn't be canon.

>>379012565
>P4A
>Canon

>>379012105
Only the innocent sin crew is mind wiped. Everyone from P1 and Ep are fine. No Tatsuya though, he's op as fuck though so I guess it works out.

>>379012232
Well yeah, you'll just have to wait for p5 arena for the explanation what the fuck they were doing during the events of p5.
Also worthy of not remember how pancakes was called the second coming if the detective princess?
The first detective prince was also a perssona user and part of the p4 cast, so detective prince senior not being all over that shit is also kind of weird.
I know why the writers did it, but it just doesn't make sense when you think about it.

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We can all agree that Futaba is worst navigator right?

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What's he playing?

>>379012604
IIRC the Golden epilogue left it vague so that it hints that something happened when you came back in May but doesn't go into any detail.

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>>379012685
*blocks your path*
BONAFIDE MONAFIDE

>>379012717
Yeah they reference that shit happened the last times you came over to visit.

P4 Dancing All Night also takes place after that epilogue. Thankfully Naoto's novel with her long hair was reduced to non canon status for clashing too much timelinewise with other spinoffs.

>>378996474

Better than 4. 5 is the best Persona game easily.

>>379012526
>It's really not hard to connect the dots that the Phantom Thieves involves Personas.
Even if they did get that connection, what do you expect them to do? The government (Part of it anyway) is covering up the finer details and the only information they get is internet rumours which are baseless at best.

They could probably find out it all if they tried hard enough and got enough plot coincidences, but in the end they're not in any place to even remotely beat yaldy.
Same with the P3 cast, though neither's due to lack of strength.

>>379012685
that's a weird way to say best

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>>379012685
We've had 6 navigators and non were all that great, but Fuuka was easily the worst.

Also the complete version of that picture is much better

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>>379012685
No because they actually let me use the JP audio for this one and I liked her as the navigator. I also replayed 3 with JP and thought Fuuka was pretty alright.
That makes the worst navigator JP Rise

>>379013029
>what do you expect them to do?
Nothing. I just wanted to know if they are able to find a connection. I also wonder if they believe the Phantom Thieves were just.

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>>379013073
>A female dog
Leave Ai alone, best Moon link by far.

>>379013029
Plus the entire P4 cast are probably doing their own seperate thing right now, they maybe could do something if they banded together, but Yosuke is probably the co manager at Junes with Teddie or something, Chie in police academy, Yukiko managing the inn, Rise being an idol, Kanji working in the textile shop and Naoto doing detective work. Yu is who knows where.

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>>379012685
Fuuka a CUTE

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>>379013073
>Shitting on ai
>P3s moon is the gourmet king

>>379013265
I think it's referring to the literal dog

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>>379013265
>best Moon link by far.
That is not /our guy/, da MishiMAN

>>379013073
They should make a new one for all 3 games.

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>>379013481
>MFW Mishima makes the Phantom Thief meter reach 100%

>>379013580
>If you dont max him out some random schmuck does it instead
Mishima: Such a punching bag that you can cuck him out of his crowning moment
Poor little shit

>>379013234
If you're going by what the game implies, rather than their actual dialogue ingame. I reckon both teams could make the connection, but they don't have the popularity to get involved in the fight.
You know? Given that P3's cast is a "Shadow" Operative group, an actress and a little league coach. While P4's a bunch of regular teenagers with varied careers.

>>379013370
>Yu is who knows where.
Playing with Nanako.

>>379010174

>P5 is a shameless retread of P4 and barely upgrades from it

Did we play the same game? P5 steals the basic idea and goes balls fucking out on dungeon design. With P4 they just took Tartarus, made it a fucking braindead linear FFXIII-tier hallway-fest, and made the hallways themed after whatever person it was supposed to represent. With Persona 5 its not even a contest. It has the best dungeon design in the series outside of Q.

>>379013749
If by playing you mean fucking like rabbits.

>>379011484
while we're asking questions, did yaldy create the metaverse in p5 or was it merely born from it? if so what created it?

>>379013265
Good taste, ai best girl

>>379013481
>>379013409
Love sun and hate Moon in P3
Love Moon and hate Sun in P4
So how are Moon and Sun in P5 story wise ?

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>>379013882

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>>379013882

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>>379013882
wtf

>>379013957
Was Sun the band girl in 4?

>>379012095
That still doesn´t fix tartarus, it´s still a shit and tedious design

>>379014080
The band girl or the drama girl depending on you picked.

>>379014080
Sun in 4 could be band girl or DRAMA girl.

>>379013882
Yu has a pure love for Nanako, he'll wait till she's old enough to marry.

>>379013946
>did yaldy create the metaverse in p5 or was it merely born from it?
Born from it and then took control because that's what humans wanted.

>what created it?
Human wishes. Or partially Nyx if you believe the Q&A book, but that's still really unclear about what it means.

>>379013957
>moon
Most agree he's a pathetic faggot but not as bad as 3 and has some contrarian fans.
>sun
One of the best and defies most of the tiring repetitive parts of most of the other SLs in this game.

>>379013957
Moon's pretty meh but I dont hate it. It feels like a complete arc at least
Sun is link of the year all years

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>>379013580
You know what, I could never actually hate Mishima, as much of a pathetic piece of shit he is, I almost always had fun hanging out with him.
>Mfw the absolute madman just puts a fucking on the table where everyone can see it in the middle of a crowded family diner.
Holy hell man.

>>379013957
Sun is absolutely based and a bro, moon is the 4chan social link with moot.
He is exactly the piece of shit you think he would he be, but I love him for it.

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>>379014165
Yoshida and Iwai were the two BEST links in 5, not even a contest.
Yoshida also has one of the best confidant bonuses

>>379013957
Moon is pretty lame, but you get to roast him hard.

Sun is widely agreed upon as the best S Link in the goddamn game.

>>379014286
Someone post that "why didn't you listen" meme

>>379013957
Moon in 5 is a guy that sort of starts getting a big head because he's the admin of your fan site (threatens users he disagrees with by saying that you'll target them) for about 3 ranks then realizes he's being a faggot and corrects himself.

Sun in 5 is a bro tier politician who teaches you how to sound appealing without saying anything of substance despite being toted around by the writer as a man of conviction.

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>>379014282
>TFW Futaba calls him an NPC

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>>379014465

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>>378997568

Yes, Ulala is great

btw this is her persona

>>379014663
Why does she have a shoe protruding from her face?

>>379014727

Ulala has very deep self-esteem problems

>>379014727
Her persona can sense something is afoot.

Which Persona overall had the best persona designs? Both ultimate and starters.

>>379014497
>without saying anything of substance despite being toted around by the writer as a man of conviction
I noticed that too but it's not like they can actually have political convictions in the game. The closest they came was talking about the economy being shit for young people and Yoshida says it's their responsibility to fix it while Shido says economic troubles are the fault of people not working hard enough.

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>>379015048
I don't know about best but I can tell you the worst.

>>379015130
Promethius is great you double nigger

>>379015304
Next you're going to tell me Haru's ultimate is good too.

>>379015435
but it is

>>379015435
Woah let´s not say things we´ll regret

>>379015435
Astarte just needed some way to incorporate hidden guns into its design to be good.

>>378997078
This is the correct answer

>>379013882

EVERYDAY

>>378997912
>JRPG
>hard

Is /v/ truly this casual?

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>>379014501
>that time when you meet GET SMOKED while you were hanging out with him.
>Mfw that entire scene
Hanging out with Mishima is fucking hilarious.

>>379015690
GREAT

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>>379015048
Izanagi, Apollo, and Arsene are best mc personas.

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>>379015857
I love how Atlus wrote every dialog decision there to just shit on Mishima.

>>379016092
AT

>>379016235
YOUR PENIS

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>>379016293

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>>379014165
>>379014196
>>379014282
>>379014286
>>379014376
>>379014497
>Fucking no good tora
>good
It is literaly in his name how much of a old worthless sack of shit he is.
Now Shido that is a great charismatic and young leader.
He is like a river in a dry land.
He will create new life in japan like a river in the desert.
Vote for Shido he will figuratively fold japan with his mighty hands and over a thousand time and from the ashes he wil make Japan will rise like the rising sun.
He will make nippon glorious again.
It

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>>379015048

Apollo, Nyarlathotep, Izanagi, Arsene and Goemon

Also can we agree Persona 3 got the worse looking personas? They are super out of place or edgy as fuck

>>379016701
P3 definitely had the worst starting personas overall.

>>379004642
That's the point of Post P3 personas. Story, character development and plot are secondary to ego stroking. The player has to be the center of attention, everyone has to have him to get their shit together. The games are now made to stroke the egos of otakus the world over and give them the high school experience that their anime lead them to believe they're owed and that's a goddamn shame

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>>379016701
Best one is Thanatos, but the coffins make it edgy

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>>379016701
I liked most of the p3 personas, except for hermes, cerberus and nemesis all the starter and strega personas were kinda meh or garbage, but most of the ultimates were fine in my opinion.
Thanatos is pretty rad.

>>379007836
That's because the game is all style, little substance.

>>378998080
They're in golden

>>379016823
But the whole school in P5 gives the MC shit over his reputation for something he didn't do.

>>378996474
in terms of overall quality 5 > 4 > 3
musically, 3 > 5 > 4
comfy level 4 > 3 > 5

>>379017171
Welcome to the japanese rice fields, motherfucker.

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>>379017483
>3
>better music than 5

>>379017668
Sorry, but the music is a little too understated in 5.
I think the highs are higher (Rivers in the Desert), but the average is lower. Does that make sense?

>>379017842
All you had to do was link the Mementos song.

>>379007510
Well, that at least should be the case. P4's MC is just a better person all around and easier to make friends with considering he has Understanding over Proficiency. The story even makes it a point that Joker mainly befriends outcasts of society and shit or at least the Phantom thiefs always says shit like that.

>>379013073
>Tedie
>Rise
>better than Fuuka
>better than anything

>>379009295
The final dungeon of P4 is excellent thematically and designwise so I was disappointef with P5's.

Fucking Tartarus 2.0

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>>379018160
Because Yu is simply more charismatic than an apathetic emo manlet.

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>>379018314
I'll give you teddie, but Fuuka is worst p3 girl. Rise is a hot slut at least.

>>379016701
>can we agree
We cannot, but that's to be expected in Persona threads at this point. I think they've all got something going for them.
I'd add P1 and 2 in too, but I can barely tell what's going on in those pictures in game.

P3 has.
>Herme.
>Hypnos.
>Juno.
>Palladion.
>Athena.
>Penthesilea.
>Messiah.
>Lo.
>Psyche.

P4's got.
>Haraedo-No-Okami.
>Sumeo-Okami.
>Himiko.
>Kaguya.

P5 I like less so, but it's got some great designs.
>Mercurius.
>Carmine.
>Milady.
>Loki.
>Arsene.
>Johanna.

Obviously I'm heavily biased, but they've all got really strong designs in them.

>>379013957
Sun was the one I cared for the most and actually made me tear up a bit at the Rank 10.

Moon has cool abilities I guess,

>>379017171
Yes because the game tries to stoke an edgy, chunni feelings from the player. If p4 is "your the most popular guy in the school everyone wants to fuck you" then p5 is "fuck all those normies they don't know how cool and stylish Iam" only its (mostly) not horeshit

>>379018403
Can't compete with the chad.
No charm stat, has all the charm he will ever need from the get go.
Playing as Yu is the ultimate chad simulator.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yV99oYiopi4

>>379015130

>Both hackers have the same ultimate Persona

What did ATLUS mean by this?

>>379019025
>That chuuni guy in the first floor of the practice building that was claiming to have accomplished all the feats the PT did over the course of the story
So you're saying he was a joke about the players.

>>378997000
I wish P5 would tone its characters down a bit (I hate the retarded burglar costume shit) and I prefer 3's general tone over it but I mostly agree. Good taste.

>>379019028
Does anyone have that "Persona 4 is a game about a stand up guy becoming a douchebag in a year" pic?

LIVE WITH BURIED MEMORY

>>379019025
Pretty much this, even then all the characters that actually matter think your the coolest guy in the world.
I still enjoyed p3, p4 and p5 though.before p2fags are going to hound me about it, I haven't played p2 yet zo get off my back about it I'll play it someday [/spoilers]

>>379019395
WITH FEAR RIDDEN SELF CONSCIOUSNESS

>>379019395
LONREY PRAYER

>>379019025
Pretty much this. If P4 was self inserting a the golden boy who everyone in town loves then P5 is self inserting as the cool rebels who beat the system or some shit.

This was probably done on purpose to differentiate the games. In P4, you are the hero, no greys, just good guys and bad guys in a scooby doo game. Final Persona is a God. In P5, you are the "villian". You do "bad things" but it has a good cause so whatever. Final persona is a demon lord.

>>379019606

KEEP RUNNING ON THE COLD TRACK