Did the Lords of Shadow games single-handedly kill Castlevania

>>378991810
Yes absolutely

Not only did it fuck up the lore, but the gameplay is some of the most cookie cutter boring tripe I've ever had the displeasure of wasting actual fucking money to play.

>>378991810
I thought it was great. Even liked both sequels.

>>378992910
let me guess, you never played the classics or SOTN

>>378991810
More like the brand is oversaturated and hasn't made any meaningful evolutions in decades, and by the time it was in its autumn years, Metroidvania is a fucking ubiquitous genre in indie development so it's not like you were particularly wanting.

Lords of Shadow just being mediocre wasn't doing Konami any favors in general.

>>378992759
>Yes absolutely
Not the first one, can't say the same thing for the sequels

>Not only did it fuck up the lore
It's his own thing, it didn't fucked anything.

>but the gameplay is some of the most cookie cutter boring tripe I've ever had the displeasure of wasting actual fucking money to play.
He didn't like the gameplay of LOS1. Absolute madman.

Nothing wrong at all with LOS1. I don't get the hate LOS gets, all I hear is "not MUH CASTELVAYNIA DUDE" the game is wonderful, fun, I liked the gameplay a lot because it's full of easy to learn skills without feeling like I have to memorise a lot of things. As you progress in the game you have a great feel of empowerment. Felt like a great adventure, top notch Soundtrack, it's exactly how a "linear" game should be done. Awesome art in general. To me the game feels like what Metroid Prime is to Metroid.

The sequels are shit thought.

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This game did more damage to the franchise than Lords of Shadow. Not to mention restraining the franchise to handhelds SOTN clones and nothing more.

Lords of Shadow revitalized interest in the franchise to people outside of the fanbase, but it was only a spark as the next 2 games fucking sucked.

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>>378993069
I did, I beat all the NES games many times. They were great. This was pretty good, definitely not the utter dogshit that some knights of autism make it out to be. As for the LoS lore part, Castlevania's lore is messed up Zelda style anyway and this is supposed to be its own thing, so why even care?

>>378993069
Not him, but played both classics and SotN. Still thought they were fine.

Let me guess, you will resort to "shit taste"?

>>378991810
>Alucard, previously known as Trevor Belmont, is a protagonist of Castlevania: Lords of Shadow - Mirror of Fate. His quest begins 25 years after the events of Castlevania: Lords of Shadow. He is the son of Gabriel Belmont and the father of Simon Belmont.

>As he discovered what happened to his father and knowing his own fate, Trevor decides to begin his journey to Dracula's castle in order to destroy the vampire lord. During his quest, Trevor is turned into a vampire himself and given the name Alucard.

i don't even know what to say about this

>>378993775
i have more class than that

you've got 'poop taste', anon.

Netflix will save the franchise.

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>>378993910
Missy*

>>378993631
>Nothing wrong at all with LOS1.
>shitboxes
>nonexistent hitstun
>copypasted enemy movesets galore
>tons of trash enemies insta killed with one grab
>most whip upgrades are worthless
>only whip attacks that out DPS standard square mashing are aerial square mashing and somersault
>Light shits all over Shadow
>definitively strongest attacks in an action game
>stages with no or minimum enemies
>platforming is a joke

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>>378993631
>absolute madman
>reddit spacing
>liking LOS1 generic "gameplay"
>praising how skills are casualized
you know where you belong

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>>378992910
>I liked Mirror of Fate

>>378993763
>restraining the franchise to handhelds SOTN clones and nothing more.
If we ignore Legends, Chronicles, Rebirth and the N64 and PS2 3D games.

>>378994443
>>shitboxes
Seriously, the game has some of the worst hitboxes I've ever seen.
It gets especially offensive whenever you die and the game goes into its dramatical slow motion where you can clearly see that you already take damage before the attack even connects with you (if it even does at all).

>>378992910
I hope someone shoves a car battery up your ass.

how was the gameplay any different than Lament of Innocence or Curse of Darkness

>>378995410
This. Also it's worth noting that Konami has gone out of its way to fuck over IGA's games several times

I thought the first LoS was great. Second one looked like liquid shit tho.

First LoS had a better dracula's origin story than Lamnent of Innocence (Gabriel > Matias). But sequels destroyed LoS.

>>378996275
>Second one looked like liquid shit tho.
I find it funny that people say this when LoS2's combat was better than the first by miles

Everytime they try castlevania in 3D they completely botch it.
It's quite amazing.

>>378996379
LoS is a Dracula origin that forgot to originate Dracula until the DLC.

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>>378991810
Why didn't they make a DaS-like Castlevania yet?

DaS was literally a 3d Symphony of the Night design-vise, why the fuck don't they make an actual 3d action rpg with DaS/Sotn-like exploration instead of God of war clone hack n slashes?

>>378997047
>when LoS2's combat was better than the first by miles
>that shit mastery system
>tons of enemy pseudo guard break attacks
>hardly any refills between fights
>Whirlwind craps on everything
>enemies feel ripped out of a severely unpolished open world game

I liked both the new ones but hate them eternally for killing the series. They should had learned their lesson the first time.
>We are going to kill Satan guys!
fucking terrible

>the N64 games
>the ps2 era games
>the wii game
>the ds games
>whatever else I am forgetting

LoS1 was okay as a game, great VA, boss fights were great, but the game overall didnt felt like a Castlevania. But definitely it wasn't the series that killed Castlevania, because the series was already kinda dead before that

Still this franchise needs more love, because the potential is all there. The Metroidvania was a good step for 2d, but 3d they never got it right.

>>378998336
>>enemies feel ripped out of a severely unpolished open world game

The entire present/futuristic part of the game felt like it was made out of reused assets from some different, cancelled game and there are some bizarre logic errors that come from it like Dracula randomly knowing what the words "pharmaceutical corporation" and "train" mean or how he somehow knows how to operate certain futuristic machinery.

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>>378999343
I mean, does this even remotely look like a Castlevania game to you?

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>>378991810
This would have killed the franchise if they didn't start banking on Symphony's metroidvania style right after.
No redeemable features besides the out of place motorcycle skeleton riders.

>>378999490
That's a Castlevania game? You fucking what

LOS was one of the best games I ever played and sated a long un-sated autism for vampire vidya, big castles, and dark souls-esque environment and adventures.

I loved the first one and the sequel and the DLC with Laura. But I can't actually overlook the fact that combat in the first game was ultra-generic and retardedly bland, the normal whip attacks are basically 2-3 combos that you are going to spam, while shadow/light had an extraneous amount of cool combos and variety but can only be used limitedly because limited resources.

The Vampire lands were my favourite chapters, along with the village and the abbey catacombs, beautiful level design, very comfy (would live in the 10/10), the final levels were also great. Especially the level where you get swarmed by an army of zombies.

>>378992759
First post best post
the sequel was actually alright

>>378991810
The 3DS version was fucking horrible.

I hope that the NES games get a remake if the show does well. The gameplay is good and should remain untouched but I would like a modern take on the music and graphics.

>>378997371
Bloodborne with the Threaded Cane is the closest thing we got. It even had a vampire castle with a Death wannabe.

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>that moment when the art director quit his job due to the retarded main director and suddenly everything was out of scale

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>>379000869

The first game was ok at best.

The 3DS game was utter shit

The HD port of the 3DS game was less shit than the 3DS version but still kinda shit.

The sequel was a bad game trying it's best to be good but the shit overshadowed any good it was trying to do.

The Alucard DLC for LOS2 was actually pretty good.

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>>379001251

So /v/ why haven't ya played Lecarde Chronicles 2 yet

>>379001453
>Lecarde Chronicles 2

Oh fuck, he made a sequel?

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>castlevania is pretty much dead
>iga removed from castlevania projects
>some no-name studio from spain pitches action game like GoW to Konami called Lords of Shadow
>Kojima is interested and suggests to rename it to Castlevania
>game is marketed and hyped up as a new castlevania with kojima "working on it"
>game is a great success and becomes the best selling castlevania game ever
>konami in its infinite wisdom gives mercury steam full control over the castlevania brand
>they fuck everything up with two sequels
>konami abandons the franchise

On the one hand, Mercury did save Castlevania. On the other hand, they also killed it.

>>379001620
Yep. The full version came out recent.

Its great.

>>378991810
Lords of Shadow 1 with DLC? No.

Lords of Shadow 2? Yes.

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Saw this at my book store 2-3 days ago.
Verdict on the price?
I already played AoS, is HoD worth the price of admission?

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Tell me about Astarte.

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>>379002224
go on

I really enjoyed Lords of Shadow, but it really is little more than a half decent God of War clone with blatant Shadow of the Colossus bosses thrown in for no reason.
The pacing is all over the place as well. Chapter 2 I think is 9 fucking (boring) levels where most of the others are 3 or 4.

>>379002037
HoD is ok, but it's one of the more mediocre metroidvanias. Unless you're a big ass fan, I wouldn't bother if you've already played AoS.

>>379002372
Well, she's... brown... You continue it.