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Come, sit, tell us some vanilla/tbc/noob stories
Bonus points for any screenshots.

>Remember thinking the server names were just random
>Notice my own server name has a location ingame
>Make it a mission to level up and go to it.
>Started as Horde and that server was Aerie Peak.
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>>378981740
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>Mulgore, 2005
>first play ever
>type lol
>hear the tauren laugh
>find this so funny I nearly woke my brother up

ignorance is bliss. If only I could go back in time
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>Going to Eastern Kingdoms for you know what
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>That feel of leveling a new alt and knowing wher all the hidden gear vendors were

That human behind durnholde keep was always my go too gal for pants and wrists.
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>>378981740
Spending 8 hours trying to form a full 40 man to kill a raid quest in silithus where you summon some huge anubisath

>i found it
http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Emissary_Roman%27khan

those boots where such a huge uppgrade over the lvl 46 some cloth boots i had on my druid at the time
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Wrath was the best era of WoW
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>Was a druid
>Always bought some 50s silverhammer from weapon vendors without any stats
>Go to the gnome/dwarf starter area and pretend to be a rare in travel form while flagged for pvp
>People fell for it and i switched out of form to chase them down with my hammer.
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>>378983805
(You)
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>Warrior reaches new level
>Have to leave Thousand Needles to return to Orgrimmar to learn new level of Heroic Strike

Oh wait we just remember the good times right?
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>>378985050
>being this lazy

There is literally nothing wrong with having to train spells
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I killed Myhtic Gul'dan last week, at least I got the cutting edge before it's removed in 11 days /noobstory
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>>378985050
You know you didn't have to drop everything as soon as you level and go get new skills right? You could just let them stack up and next time you went to the auction you could swing by the trainer?
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>>378985152
>that DPS counter placement
>showing quest log while inside raid
>getting beaten by DKs and Mages in fucking Gul'dan as a Fury Warrior
how
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>>378985530
Clearly you never played a warrior in vanilla
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>>378985553
Frost mages and Frost DK's are crazy, that's why they're getting nerfed.

What's wrong with the dps placement? and the quests gets hidden in encounters
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>>378985737
You leveled using the skills you had. So clearly you werent doing that bad in thousand needles.
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>>378985152
>everything about this image
typical warrior player
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>>378985152
Man i kinda miss raiding, last time i played was in MoP. It felt like i had friends...
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>2005, hyped for WoW
>want to play hunter and tame a harpy
>cant tame harpy
>never play again
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>>378985971
>tame harpy
>not wanting to be a harpy
there are so many potential playable races they could use but won't and it's infuriating.
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>>378985943
come play TBC senpai
>>>/vg/178669669
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>>378985530
>Play Warrior in Vanilla without the absolute highest Weapon + Spells
>Or First Aid + Cooking + Fishing + Mining + Blacksmithing
>Levelling

Yeah you didn't play a Warrior in Vanilla
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>>378986101
>the expansion that butchered pvp
nah
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>>378985772
Fury is king in Gul'dan. You should be at the very least 10% ahead of both of those classes. At most, you'd have an Affliction warlock behind you. Or you're not doing your job on that fight properly. You know, blowing up eyes and parasites instantly. You should be doing the vast majority of damage to them in your raid.
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>>378986204
>TBC butchered pvp
But they released battlegrounds and honor grinding in vanilla, not TBC.
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>>378986563
TBC removed almost all reward for world PVP and Battlegrounds and made it so that the only form of PVP progression was muh comp Arena which was boring as fuck.
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>>378981740
>high level alliance character with a friend
>go to the tauren starting area
>find a newbie on the outskirts
>can't attack characters a certain level below but hang around him
>newbie clearly unsure of own safety
>do a basic AoE attack (dealing no damage due to aforementioned restriction)
>newbie is startled and attacks in retaliation dealing negligible damage
>the barrier has been lifted
>one-shot him

beautiful

also I have a memory of me and a friend, possibly the same friend, taking on 7 enemy players (not all at once but maybe 3 or 4 at the most at once and their levels were around 4 below at lowest and 2 above at highest, around that area anyway) and coming out victorious. That was awesome. It was around that dwarven hunter's camp in the jungle and it just all kicked off. At one point we got separated and I remember dicking all over this mage who froze me, clearly thought he was in the okay, then got shat on by a warrior charge and stun of some kind. Meeting back up after that realising my bud was okay and won on his end just felt so damn cool.

Even after 10 years I remember he was a night elf called danonmapc
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>play a gnome warlock
>get the quest to summon a succubus
>have to go to the badlands
>get a friend with a decently levelled horde character to serve as my guide
>use a voidwalker to distract guards when I pass gates
>shocked by how vibrant and immense the zone is

Tense as fuck though, making my way through hiding or negotiating with any other horde players on the way.
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>>378981740
Stop copying my title.
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>>378986426
Pretty sure I did, but I tried to be helpful to prioritize gul'dan to skip the second big add in first phase, also had to shockwave the parasites, so lost a bit of burst and double charge which helps in the big eye phase
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>>378986708
vanilla removed almost all world pvp by creating little instanced playgrounds where everything is fair and therefore boring. Pvp progression shouldn't exist, there should only be pve gear, and the only pvp should be world pvp encounters. PVP is supposed to be about encountering the enemy in the world, or fighting over farming/questing territory, things like that, not getting points to spend on gear.
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>>378983805
Unironically true. Was a great expansion for both casuals and seasoned players.
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>>378983805
WOTLK contained both the best and the worst raids of all time. It did a lot of great things for class balance, too.

However, it can never be forgiven for creating RDF, the singular feature that killed WOW forever.
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>>378987123
>by creating little instanced playgrounds where everything is fair and therefore boring
battlegrounds were still large scale team play and used game types that weren't in the regular world pvp like ctf and base capturing. they tried that stuff in the world with shit like the plaguelands towers and 90% of the time nobody cared about them.
>Pvp progression shouldn't exist, there should only be pve gear,
fuck off i don't want to pve.
>not getting points to spend on gear.
maybe pve should also be about the adventure and challenge instead of farming mobs for gear. most of your other points about instances being bad can also apply to pve, maybe you would rather play everquest where there are no instances you're not allowed to progress at all unless the top guild generously stops farming the lowest tier of endgame content after they've spent months milking it.
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>>378987478
I don't get the hate for LFR/LFG features. During WoTLK the game was still hard and an hasty assembled LFG party would wipe quite often.

Basically, it allowed people who lacked time and dedication to enjoy *some* of the good end-game content, making it more accessible. Which is not a bad thing in itself.

Also, aside from being thematically shit, TOC had some nice mechanics.
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>>378987123
The first 30 times you get all your quest givers killed and the skull-level enemy stuns and then /dance you is fun, after that less so.
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>>378986563
>All world PvP instantly destroyed with flying mounts
>Defending TBC in Burning Crusade

Who the fuck enters a nostalgia thread and defends TBC PvP?

You know what TBC PvP was? Afking in Alterac Valley for months at a time to get Season 1 free welfare Epics.

Once you were fully kitted out in Season 1 Welfare epics you then jumped into 2v2 Arena where you either picked a Mace Stunlock Rogue + Discipline Priest or you just fucking lost.

Lets not forget all of this grind and gear was 100% useless in PVE. Even trying to do Heroic 5 mans was impossible because of the lack of +Hit and +Defense on gear.

TBC did some great things but the PvP was Atrocious.
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>>378981740

>be alliance
>want to do SM
>have to form a raid group of 30-40 dudes in order to safely make the voyage.
>fly to southshore and group up
>run out in large group akin to the fellowship of the ring
>dont run into any horde instead run into a rarespawn drake
>it wipes us
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Best starter zone and why is it Tirsfal?
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>>378987954
It killed any WORLD aspect of the World of Warcraft. Instances were places in the world you had to actually go to. After RDF people just sat in the capital city queueing for stuff. That's not an MMO, it's effectively the same as queueing for a game of dota. It created a contained "game" experience instead of a living breathing world.

>Basically, it allowed people who lacked time and dedication to enjoy *some* of the good end-game content,

This IS bad. Time and dedication are important factors in an MMO. You can't just cut off the key avenues to success and say "EVERYBODY GETS TO BE SUCCESSFUL GIVE US MORE SUBSCRIPTIONS!" and still have a good game.

>>378988206
I'm not defending TBC pvp I'm saying all PVP after Battlegrounds/Honor was bad.
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>>378988225
The red or blue drake?
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>mounts were super expensive
>people RARELY had the epic mount on level 60 on my server
>rarely even had a regular one at level 40
>even being a full on AH autist took a while to get that 500g
>most money went on skills
>guild leader was adamant about getting a mount at level 60
>he actually does
>the guild leader, hitting 60, with his amazing 100% mount, between the noobs with regular or even no mounts, towering and leading us towards the next Astranaar battle
>he actually skipped leveling skills starting from level 40 or so
>only level 2 most used ones
>making him mostly useless in combat
>but he had a goddamn EPIC mount
Coolest leader I ever had in WoW or any other MMO
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>>378987954
>During WoTLK the game was still hard and an hasty assembled LFG party would wipe quite often.
No? The only time I remember having a hard time in an heroic is when out tank was some retarded DK who didn't know how to play the game.
Cata heroics were hard, but Blizzard had to nerf them because retards using lfg kept wiping.
>it allowed people who lacked time and dedication to enjoy *some* of the good end-game content
Just run a fucking PuG
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>>378988237
>come out of starter zone
>fucking LEVEL 10 BABY
>wonder a bit to the left
>get destroyed by a bunch of farmers
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>First time playing wow during release
>Invite some guy to party in order to explore and quest together
>log out
>next day login and get pissed off that the guy left the party
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>>378988237
Old Tanaris was cool. I like deserts.
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>>378988237
Only if we are talking about Vanilla Tirisfal

>You are an Undead ripped from the earth against your will
>Join the Forsaken or fucking die again
>Any mob at your level will do about 50% of you entire HP
>And we haven't even reached the Bandage / Food trainers yet
>You want a quest? Well fuck you here is a single quest to collect Bat Hides, 5% drop rate, gather 10 of them
>This is for the entire of 6-10 levelling as Forsaken
>Oh you want to go to the next area? Sure it's about 5 miles that way

Being an Forsaken in Vanilla really did make it so that they needed the Horde a lot more than the Horde needed them. Everyone was out to get the Forsaken so they had to get any allies they could in order to survive.
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>>378988517
>tfw thousand needles is gone forever
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>First character was a Dwarf
>Leveling and get to Loch Modan
>explored the area and found the giant dam
>party members and i jumped off, was fun

love the memories from that game.
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>>378988285

pretty sure it was the red one, just before we reached lordamere lake
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>>378988281
> Time and dedication are important factors in an MMO.
Which is why LFR did not give full rewards. If less than 10% of all level 80 players get to meet with the Lich King you'll start losing money eventually.
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>>378988354
Cata heroics were a mistake by blizzard
You can't take a community use to the simplicity of doing wrath heroics and never communicating with rdf and throw them into difficult content that required skill and communication to defeat.
Allowing rdf for cata heroics at launch was so fucking stupid.
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>>378988906
Blizzard gives a fuck about making/losing money, I don't. I just want a good game.
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>>378988958
>You can't take a community use to the simplicity of doing wrath heroics and never communicating with rdf and throw them into difficult content that required skill and communication to defeat.
You can if you're comfortable with people quitting your name but MUH SUB NUMBERS GOTTA GIT DAT $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Blizzard are corrupt jews who ruined their own game because they couldn't handle casuals not liking it.
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>>378988662
>Shitty zone got turned into a slightly less shitty zone
oh no
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>>378988814
If it was next to dalaran crater it was most likely the blue one.
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how i met some of my best friends during tbc.

so I'm a lvl 70 undead lock, on kil'jaden i think, either that or sargeras. i'm decked out what ever season arena gear this set was available (picrealte). I'm bored as fucking ganking around in stv when i come across a pretty fucking skilled undead rogue doing the same thing as me. We start working together and soon piss off enough people that lvl 70 alliance come to deal with us. The two of us were heavily outnumbered, so we off course got beaten, but locks and rogues at the time were overpowered and he was really fucking good, so we give them the good fight. That undead rogue had a second account with an alliance character on that server. He starts talking to the alliance guys that were killing us and they actually were really cool people. They invite both of us to their guild vent and we just start doing chatting on vent. Fast forward a couple of hours and we're all shitfaced. We end up playing hide and go seek in booty bay. Something so simple became such a fond memory because of how much we all bonded.

Ended up spending the entire expansion hanging out on their vent, and doing random shit with them. We even got so close that we all shared accounts with each other so that way other people could play another decked out class that may be on the opposite faction. We all would help each other out despite being opposite faction. I remember I was grinding on the elemental plateau in nagrand, and it was busy as shit. There were so many fellow horde farming that I asked the fellow allies to come gank them till the horde left. Those horde guys got so pissed off at me once they figured out I was friends with the allies.

I remember one time they got their guild and I got my guild to both sign up for AV at the same time. We spent like several hours trying to get our two premades into the same instance. Once it finally happened we just proceeded to dick around and not even try for the objectives.

cont.
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>>378989153
cont.

There was another time were i logged on their vent and listened in on them making plans that they had to sneak into org from the side entrance and kill thrall. So naturally i gathered people from my guild and tradechat, we managed to surprise them at the bridge and slaughter them. They were pretty pissed about that, but in time it just became something to laugh about.

Somehow in early wotlk, my guild and their guild just kind of faded off and we all lost touch. I still miss those days. No vidya has ever been able to give me as much joy in my life as those days did.
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>>378987257
That sums it up perfectly, it was literally all down hill form there, down a very steep hill
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I miss Vanilla wow it was a fun time with fun people. I still cringe knowing I called my warlock Nostril
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>>378988958
LFD was a mistake by Blizzard. I enjoyed having challenging PVE content that wasn't a raid.
This isn't possible anymore because of lfd and leveling having to be braindead easy.
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>play on private server with /v/
>instant 40
>guild on Alliance (our faction) is pissing us off
>we all make undead rogues, instant 40
>camp flightmasters when that guild are trying to do Molten Core

good times

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SPSih6ytrc
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*blocks your path*
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>>378989450
You're not wrong. But blizzard should have known the playerbase that existed within the lfg system wouldn't be able to handle cata heroics at their launch state.
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Newfag question here

Why do i always find people that look 100% human but they are either undead or orcs for some reason? It happened more than a few times where i think i saw a friendly person and then realized they were red. What the fuck.

Also. Any recommended places to skin stuff at 40 lvl ?
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>>378989790
Blizzard should have said "well fuck those retards" rather than saying "how do we pander to those retards?"

They dug their own grave.
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>>378986105
>kill things
>level up
>oh fuck I need these new skills to continue killing the things I was just killing!

You fucking warriors still cry, even after all these years.
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>>378989687
>do MC for the first time ever, never played Retail
>had a lot of fun
>we all fuck about making dumb shit with everyone after the fight

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miGa6A5Trbc

I wonder if any of you fuckers are still out there.
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>>378989935
Savory Deviate Delights turn you into different costumes.
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>>378989695
HYUH!
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>tfw got into wow because i saw the girl i liked playing it at the netcafe in 2004
>my entire social life and teen years ruined thanks to a girl who i never got together with
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>raid with guild named <YABO>
>can't remember what it stands for
>be warlock, no thought required for raiding
>make jokes in vent
>one day I decide <YABO> stands for <Young Asian Boy Orgy>
>GM loses his goddamn mind
>entire guild collapses from his angry lashing out at people over a pedophelia joke
>we never even downed Rag

40 man Raiding was fun as hell
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>>378990283
>go to walmart to spend my allowance on a game
>was planning on buying half life 2, but I saw WoW next to it and it came with a free sub at the time
>decide to try it out because I've seen commercials and it looks cool
>entire teen years wasted on one decision
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>>378990108
>we all fuck about making dumb shit with everyone after the fight
u wot m8
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>create a night elf rogue in vanilla
>friend says hunters are easier to level
>listen to him and make a hunter
>put talent points everywhere
>in the end end up leveling as markmanship, opening with aimed shot, pulling aggro from pet and just meleeing the mob to death
>never git gud at anything
>finally ding 60, join some UBRS run
>leader asks me to kite drakkisath
>no idea what it means
>proceed to pull the boss and stand still shooting
>die in 2 hits
>leader asks what the fuck am I doing and eventually kicks me
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>>378988653
Oh man so much nostalgia, Forsaken were really bullied with their starting zones all the time
>flightpaths and towns always super far apart
>constant crowds of mobs on the farm/field areas
>next area has random elites like twice your level
>the later area requires you to basically run through 2/3 of it before you can reach the town
>oh and all those areas are likely to have overleveled alliance players who are going to SM or SF, and just chilling near Terran Mill
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>>378985152

>people went from doing 300k dps in Emerald Nightmare to 1 million dps in Nighthold

what a shit expansion
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>>378981740
I still remember the time I tested my first lvl 40 mount from Thelsamar to Menethil Harbor. It looked really fast, and even going on foot wasn't so slow.

The old days
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>>378988653
>borders a rapezone where everything is level 50+

i loved the plaguelands though. most people thought all the 60 minute diseases were bullshit, but it had a great atmosphere, and revisiting and seeing all the old areas and buildings/units from WC3 was awesome.
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>>378987478
>MoP that low
Throne of Thunder was better than Ulduar.
The instance was bigger, more varied, we had a better reason for being there, and Ra-den can instastill kill ilvl900 scrubs who ignore mechanics.

Pandaland did some shit wrong, but the raids weren't it.
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>>378989258
Another fond story I have about how much of a noob I was when I first started in vanilla.

So I'm a NE rogue around like lvl 20. I have zero fucking idea what is going on this game. To paint the picture, I didn't even realize i had talent points to spend. I had a grey 1 hand sword as one weapon because i saw that it did more damage per second than my green item did. I had some cloth on that gave me shadow resistance as well since I figured, hey shadow resistance has to be useful right? So i'm in a deadmines group. I'm pulling shit left and right, but the group was good enough to compensate for my noobish ways. At the time, I had no idea what the need/greed system was for. I mean, im a rogue and im wearing some cloth pants so thats expected, right? So i quickly learned in the first minute of that dungeon that rolling need would almost always give you those items. So i'm hitting need on everything. The group begins to cuss me out for, "ninjaing." I didn't know what ninjaing was, but I didn't take kindly to all the insults they were throwing at me so i proceed to cuss them out as well. I mean, here i was just minding my own business and they proceed to start insulting me for no reason. They end up kicking me from the group and that was that for...several hours.


CONT
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>>378991245
Filename
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>>378991395
CONT

Fast forward later that night. I'm killing mobs in redridge because I have no fucking idea that quests is the optimal way to level. All of a sudden a GM whispers me saying he got multiple reports about me ninjaing. I had no idea what the hell a GM was, or ninjaing, so I proceed to rant about how those guys were dicks to me even though I didn't do anything to them. Fairly quickly the GM started to pickup on me being a complete noob, maybe he just /inspected me or something but he just point blank asks me, what i thought ninjaing was. I told him I didn't know. Now I'm sure all of you are aware, old gm's back in vanilla were cool as shit. He proceeded to spend what seemed like 30 mins giving me the noobs guide 101. He educated me about ninjaing, leveling, quests, how to not gear my character up like a dumbass, the full nine yards.

Because of that GM I quickly learned the game instead of burning out because I didn't understand it. Because someone took the time to educate a noob, a negative story turned into a positive.
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>>378991245
>revisiting and seeing all the old areas and buildings/units from WC3 was awesome.
This made both Plaguelands my favorite areas in vanilla
Also so many "classic" enemies/units (even if they did ruin the ghouls) was so great to see
And Strat with Scholomance? Man they were amazing too with so many paths and far less convoluted than all the Blackrock crap
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>ywn wake the dreamer
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>>378990283
>implying the only thing that stopped you from crushing pussy like a normie chad was a video game
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>>378982609
comfy
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>>378991245
Plaguelands is probably one of the zones where most of the effort went.
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>>378991383
the theme itself of ulduar made it better than any mop raid, muh faggy chinese theme was TERRIBLE
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>Playing as a Dwarf and travelling through the mountain pass into Loch Modan, trying to sneak past the Orc camps and through the torch lit tunnels
>The cosy rotund outpost buildings the Dwarves had
>Ol'Sooty the elite bear
>The elite lake threshers in Redridge
>Friend messaging you and asking if you want to run a dungeon, you have no idea what that is but you say yes and have to make your way from Modan through to the Deeprun tram to Stormwind then down to Moonbrook.
>Deadmines is fucking amazing

https://youtu.be/2SIP9jxzzP8?t=2m35s
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>>378993108
>>Deadmines is fucking amazing
Hands down one of the best levels/dungeons/maps/whatever in any game ever made. It has so much goddamn love put into it, especially with the perfectly slow trickle of lore you get about it from quests before you go.

10/10 content.
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>>378983805
The beginning of the end, but I at least went through endgame. Didn't bother with Catalyst.
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>>378993273
Running it with some rag tag group back in the day and it took like two fucking hours. I remember the first time we beat Smite then moved on and then realised a fucking mob spawns behind you afterwards. We got sandwiched hard and wiped. Great times.
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>>378993517
Fuck, not smite, I mean the giant with the hammer whose name escapes me right now
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ITT: Pathetic, casual babbys who couldn't handle a PVE MMO fifty times more difficult than WoW
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>Go to stockades group
>Took about an hour with no wipes
>We decide to go to SFK from Stormwind
>Takes about an hour on foot and finally reach SFK and get ready and we clear it after another hour then next day we went to SM.

I miss you friends.
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>>378993727
DAE PLAY HARDCORE GAMES FOR HARDCORE GAMERS SUCH AS ONESELF? XD

Pathetic. There's always one.
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>>378993727
Do you feel better now?
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>>378989695
AAARRGHH, OOOHHH
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>>378992652
You're fucking stupid and wrong.
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>>378982794
Los titties?
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>>378994059
I was more afraid of the level 6 who could backstab you.
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>>378993727
are you the fag from that one thread who got ass blasted when people started comparing everquest to mythic raids?
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>>378991383
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>>378993108
Fucking deadmines. I ran it from level 17 to 27.

Loved it that much
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>>378981740
RP fag here, I remember a shitty holy/Templar-esque RP guild called Caelestis Gorliam on Silver Hand. Good times fucking with them back in vanilla.

Every week they had a big recruitment meeting where they'd do cringy shit like bless the low lever recruits using Latin phrases. Tons of random people would turn up to watch, sometimes these meetings would have upwards of 200 people.

My friends and I would spend the whole. meeting. Dropping as many obnoxious trinkets as we could, throwing piles of snowballs at all the guild leaders we'd saved from the Christmas event. Dartols rod and pretending to be holy bears, eating goblin chili or that one pot that made you puke and standing in front of them. It would escalate to huge groups of people joining us, anyone with a trinket joining in. We eventually turned the entire server against the guild, people would relentlessly harass them without any of my buds ever showing up.

My character on Silver Hand RP was Night Elf female Druid Adrela
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>>378985152
kys tranny
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>>378996283
>cataclysm screenshots
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>>378996283
Cata azeroth sucked shit
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>>378996527
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>>378996665
>that chat
you have to go back, pedro
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>>378996909
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>>378995928
lel nice to see random antics alive and well /b/brother

simply...epic
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>>378991557
This stupid faggot would never drop the Fang Pants that I always wanted.
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>>378998321
>rogue
>run the boss that drops the leather agi shoulders over and over
>they finally drop
>lose them to a hunter
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>>378987478
>faceroll butchered naxxramas anywhere near tbc
>better than ice crown
opinion discarded
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>>378998949
>leather agility class upset that another leather agility class won leather agility items

what did he mean by this
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>>378987478
>cata
>not scraping the bottom axis

that shit was fucking miserable and unfun, not to mention forever ruining the vanilla map
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>>378991383
ulduar was the only instance in the history of wow that had hardmodes and hidden boss done right, plus the design of both the areas and the bosses was amazing
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>>378999129
because unlike the hunter i'm stuck with whatever leather i get.
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>>378999562
the hunter is also stuck with whatever leather he gets, until 40, then he's stuck with whatever leather/mail he gets
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>>378982402
G O D B E A M S
O
D
B
E
A
M
S
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>>379000523
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>>379000895
Here's the updated version, buddy
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>>379001658
tbf legion is really good. the rng is annoying, and they took a shit on professions but its the best xpack since WoTLK in my humble opinion
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>>379001658
Danke
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>>379001865
I've played since the game came out, only started raiding in Wrath, and started doing top tier raiding in MoP. I quit in Legion because the grinding and RNG was too much.

Now, you might disagree, which I'm fine with, I'm fully aware that this is something I believe that the devs have gone wrong with.

I liked the loot system back in Wrath and Cata. There's a set of items that are your definite best in slot. Then in MoP they introduced Thunder/Warforged. I was fine with this, because as long as you did 25m (and the goal of this system was to get people to do 25m again), you could still get a full set of your BiS items. Sure, it'd take a few weeks more, but the drop rate on Thunder/Warforged was like 60%, so if you were unlucky, it doubled the time it took to get full BiS, a neat extra thing to do when you're done progression.

In WoD it started going downhill. Random sockets, random Warforged, and random teriary stats. Not all of these RNG components were worth the same either, so you could get unlucky and roll +Speed, knowing that you were lucky enough to get an upgraded item, but you just got a shitty upgrade, instead of the socket you wanted.

Legion took it to the next fucking level, not only did they expand on everything I disliked about gear, they even made legendaries RNG as well.

Back in Cata I remember I never really got that trinket I wanted from Alysrazor, man I was disappointed. Still not as disappointed as when I looted a shitty legendary in Legion.

Sure, I got lucky to get a legendary, but now you have to get lucky twice, because you need the good legendaries to drop.


The encounters have gotten better with every expansion, anyone denying this is a retard. The circumstances of raiding has changed though, and I can't bring myself to play under the current system

Sorry for the rant, I guess I needed to get something off my chest.
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>>379001890
Northrend was fucking fantastic but dragonblight was a mess.
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>>378992652
You could've just saved yourself the embarrassment and said you never played MoP
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>>379003376
Icecrown was pretty barren and I don't think they ever really did anything with that little island above it. Crystalsong too.
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>>379004007
North of it? Hrothgar's Landing?

Was turned into a daily zone in a patch, I'm pretty sure.
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>>378985772
>Frost DK's are crazy

Fuck yeah, glad to see my favorite spec is stomping shit.

>tfw loved Frost DK in Wrath
>rotation was fun as fuck, DUOL WEELD was fun as fuck, dat attack speed
>DPS kept up well enough in raids
>friend in raid group suggests I go Unholy because DPS could be better
>begrudgingly give it a shot
>suddenly topping DPS charts, but with a bullshit boring faceroll rotation and stupid ghoul
>muh 2handed

It seriously felt like cheating with how fucking boring it was and how easy it was to top the charts. Frost all day erry day.
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>reading this thread
>listening to old ost
>know the community isn't going to be the same
>fell for the meme during WOD.

fuck me i'm getting the old itch again. its like heroin, it never goes away. Convince me /v/ why i shouldn't relapse right now.
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>>378985152
fuck you for supporting blizzard
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>>379004771
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i miss this game so goddamn much
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>>378987478
RDF is only the 3rd most contributing factor to killing WoW. Both cross-realm and dungeon finder had a more negative effect.
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>>379004771
Legion is hot garbage. RNG on top of RNG on top of RNG in terms of gearing. The levelling is really shit, with each zone having a big bad that you chase throughout and experience whacky shenanigans with. Even when you're 110 and have all the gear you want, you still have to grind for AP.

If you really want to play WoW do so on a private server. Elysium for Vanilla, Medivh for TBC (wait for Gummy's if you can), Lordaeron or Dalaran for WotLK.
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>>379005179
RDF is Random Dungeon Finder ya dip
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...and Warlocks are mushrooms.
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>>378981740
>Start out a fresh newb on release day
>Dorf hunter, playing with brother who makes a human rogue
>Trying to get to him, take a look at the map and plan to navigate over to him
>Run through Loch modan, make it through the badlands by sending pet in as a distraction while I fucking leg it, finally die somewhere in searing gorge
>Rarespawn spider is here at the graveyard, can't actually res there
>Well fuck, guess I'll run there as a ghost
>Get to Blackrock
>Massive lag spikes and frame drops cause me to fall into the cauldron, can't get out, have to relog onto better PC so I can even see what the fuck is going on
>Finally make it through, get lost in burning steppes for a good half an hour before finding the path to redcliff
>At long last, the end is in sight
>Arrive at the graveyard in Elwyn
>Res there
>Get teleported back to the graveyard in searing gorge
>MFW
>Finally manage to res far enough away from the rare mob to not get killed instantly
>Fuck this shit, hearthstone back to Dun Morogh
>Ask chat how the fuck I'm supposed to get to Stormwind
>MFW there's literally a tram going straight there from Ironforge

It was an amazing journey.
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>>379005484
oh, i thought you meant raidfinder.
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>>379005261
grinding for ap doesnt sound that bad. Everyone bitches about grinding but they forget that vanilla's grinding experiences were fucking unparalleled.
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>in best guild on server
>guild gets bored as fuck once everything is on farm
>drag Azuregos and that one green dragon that turns corpses into mushrooms into Orgrimmar
>Blood Plague shenanigans in capital cities
>Geddon bomb in the auction house
>drag that one druid guy across the continent so the alliance can't do quests to progress opening AQ40

All that shit and it's fucking with people that I remember the most
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>>379005554
>mfw Blizzard still has no fucking clue what they want to do with warlocks
>mfw even when their design was unanimously agreed on to be perfected they changed shit up
>mfw warlocks will always be mushrooms
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>>379005554
Witches hat bruh hehehehe
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>>379005820
locks haven't been right since wotlk.

still fucking sore about losing the sl/sl talent spec.
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>>379005896
>locks haven't been right since wotlk.

MoP was literally the best time to play a warlock though
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I tried it in 2005, realized it was casual garbage, and went back to FFXI.
Then it started to infect other games like a cancer.
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>>379005975
green fire was a gimmick. the original devs considered it but wouldn't do it because they wanted people to be able to visually identify what element they were getting hit with.
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>>379006150
Green fire alone wasn't what made warlocks in MoP great

>All three specs unique
>All three specs viable
>All three specs have a niche
>All three specs have a rotation that plays into their theme
>The class itself is just fun in general
>Casting while moving
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>>378983805
since december i've played on vanilla, then tbc, and now i'm on a wrath server and i have to say
this is true
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>>378983734
I got my first shoulder slot item from that hidden goblin vendor in stonetalon.
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>>379006379
locks remember MoP fondly because they did twice as much damage as everyone else
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I love instances & dungeons in MMOs but find quests, crafting, raids and pvp tedious or boring

Are there any games that have a really good focus on the 5man dungeon group thing?
bonus points if I can bring my sub in as a healslut
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>>379006492
Where was this goblin? I faintly remember him too. i want to check if he's still ingame.
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>>379006415
tlk was most of my playtime. I can't help but have rose tinted glasses for it.
My taste is shit anyway, I don't care about people agreeing with me that tlk is the best, but I just love it.
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>>378999129
I guess I can roll bows with agility
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>>379007101
it has just enough quality of life improvements while retaining what made vanilla and tbc wow good
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>>379003123
i'd gladly roll back itemization to any expansion MoP or prior, the str/agi/int changing gear and crit/haste/mastery/vers system are awful
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Old wow magazine
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>new patch
>oh boy what did they do for Shaman
>Stormstrike has a new icon!
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>>379006876
I'm the opposite. I love solo RPGing in a persistent world and grinding/crafting stuff on my own, but I hate people and don't want to do stuff with them.
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>>379010217
I'd probably be okay with crafting in a world where the player-run economy/auction houses weren't a disaster. I always went enchanting in WoW so I could just sell off the dusts n shit of gear that was worth less than the components I could generate.
But yeah, I like how dungeons play, I like the boss fights and pseudo-puzzles.
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>>379009923
>We don't feel like you should be reading a book or doing laundry during combat

what was vanilla paladin all about then
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>>379005714
The thing about AP is that it never ends. In Vanilla you had a bunch of grinding, but it had a clear, reachable goal. Stuff like "I want to hit level 40", "I want exalted with Timbermaw", "I want enough consumes to raidlog", etc. Even the craziest grinds such as AQ gong questline took like a week of 24/7 grinding. In Legion, there's always another rank you could grind out - there's no end goal. You could play 24/7 for a month and still not even be 25% done with the grind.

If you like KMMO levels of grinding for little reward, then Legion is a decent choice. If you like actually being rewarded, then look elsewhere.
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>>379005820
>locks in legion
Truly the cuck class.
I question anyone still playing one.
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>>378988237
the Scarlet Enclave
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>>379007035
Somewhere in this area I think
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>>378992652
imagine having taste this fucking bad, holy shit
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>>378983805
BC had the best tuned Heroics. Every Wrath Heroic dungeon was fucking awful.
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>>378988237
Agamand Mills. Just Agamand Mills.

>that quest where you're told to kill a level 13 undead in a crypt that is filled to the brim with undead
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>>379012295
Hi nixxiom
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>>379012295
>watching group members get stunned on the way back out
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>>379012539
What?
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>>379001658
vanilla with 2.2 changes would've been pretty much perfect
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>>379012295
I think every starting zone had that "one" quest you didn't look forward to.

>Elwynn - Hogger
>Dun Morogh- Frostmane Hold
>Teldrassil- That one cave full of druids
>Durotar - Getting Fizzle's Dark Claw, Zalazane
>Mulgore- Finding that one level 11 Kodo with a huge patrol
>Tirisfal- Agamand Mills
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>>379013150
>2.2
lmao what
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>>379013496
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>>379013446
More like going into the back of that FUCKING MINE.
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>>379013496
I think 2.2 was the patch where they added more quest hubs for 1-60, like that mudsprocket in dustwallow, so that's probably what he means.
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>>379014675
oh
in my mind 2.2 is the voice chat patch. I barely remember anything else from it
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>>378988906
>If less than 10% of all level 80 players get to meet with the Lich King
Then why were subscription stats at all all-time high during the Lich King raid's lifetime?
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>>379014675
it's also got pre-nerf elites and group quests which was 2.3 iirc
>>
Will we ever get an official vanilla server bros?
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>>379013150
>>379014675

This existed.

243vanilla . tk

Was the vanilla game level capped at 60 with the 2.4.3 patch. It's was actually fucking fun and balanced but then drama happened as per usual with private servers and the playerbase got cut by about 90%
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>>379014976
we'll find out in 5 months when they say no
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>>378996283
>Cross section of the world is four different colors at one spot
Fucking theme park world building
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>>379014976
No, it would hurt blizzard's pride to admit that players want to play the older versions of the game.
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>>378985152
Go to bed Rhythmz, we got raid tomorrow.
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>>378981740
When I started back in early Wrath I thought all NPCs were stationary so when I saw walking NPCs I thought they were players so would try to talk to them and when naturally I didn't get a response I thought they were being rude.
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>>379004007
I just remember a quest taking me up there, I think it was the finale to the Scarlet Crusade storyline, where it turns out demons were behind their actions the whole time.
I only remember it because the demon says he'll chase whatever important NPC was there "to the ends of the earth", even though earth isn't the name of the planet, which a friend of mine was very critical about.
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>>378989396
Really not that bad anon. I remember naming my first char caliber.
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>>378991567
The sad part is now that I actually get some all I want to do is sit at home and play classic wow
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>>378991469
>Now I'm sure all of you are aware, old gm's back in vanilla were cool as shit.
Worth noting that current-day GMs are no slouches. One of the things that WoW has consistently impressed me with over the years is the quality of their customer service/GM team.
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I think one thing they'd need to fix about vanilla WoW is the quests where they send you to go to a place and kill 10 of monster X, then after you finish it and turn it in they ask you to go back to the same place and kill 10 of monsters Y and Z. It's a really bizarre waste of time
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Who's your fave raid boss and why is it ____You
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>>379018837
Kael'thas
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>>378985152
>>379015647
Y-you too Fiskyh
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>>378988237
>Not Dun Morogh

Please kid.
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>tfw have a screenshot of when my guild killed Yogg-Saron 25 saved on some flash drive somewhere
>tfw lost that flash drive

That had a few video games I made in college as well. This makes me sad.
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>>379006876
bump, was looking at black desert and then saw that rootkit shit.

Plz help find a game for my healslut & I to play
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>>379018837
In no particular order

>Siegebreaker Blackfuse
>Operator Thogar
>Professor Putricide
>Vashj
>Mimiron
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>>379019152
i vaguely remember how fucking hard tempest keep was when it first came out. Even long after they nerfed it, it still took quite a while for most guilds to progress through it.
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>>379020439
Well the first boss that you fight was Al'ar which was ridiculously hard fight compared to the Tier 4 bosses. If you were smart, you did Void Reaver and High Astromancer Solarian before even attempting Al'ar.

To be completely honest though, I only ever pugged Tempest Keep, and we only killed Void Reaver. I was in a shit guild that was struggling through Karazhan.
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>>379020439
Kael'thas was the prototypical "20 minute fight that gets 10 times harder in the last phase"
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