BOTW

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>>378974715

>>378974873
rekt

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>>378974873
what went wrong?

>>378975206
How much deeper can this go?

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>>378974873
>>378975206
>>378975262

>>378974715
Open world

>>378974873
fpbp

Absolutely nothing went wrong.
Try playing the game sometime ACfag

>>378975305

Massacred

>>378974715
Your birth.

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>>378975262

9.6/10 game

8.8/10 zelda game

needs better music and oldschool dungeon

Damn, nintendodrones couldn't refute my image.

>>378975659
Which was yours?

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>>378975587
>"doesn't exist"
>alttp actually accomplished this vision

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>>378975587
>fanfiction tier
isn't that official art?
>doesn't exist
those both easily represent dungeons in ALTTP?

>>378974715
But the Tower of Hera is so fucking linear and short, who cares?

While it's hard to say BotW is a better game than ALttP, it does a lot of things differently, and not necessarily worse. There's a much bigger world and shit ton to explore, who cares if you don't have linear dungeons with simple puzzles? That's an awful complaint when there's so much more.

>>378975894
>>378975887

because ALTTP had climbing mechanics and a third person camera.

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>>378975887
Yeah, pretty much the same thing as the picture

>>378975990
>trying to talk sense into shitposters

>>378975074
i love this meme where someone posts that image and the first reply pretends to be a guy that believes it.

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>>378974715

>>378976648
Add bottom with the temple with all the guardians and we're all set

>>378976774
>>378976648
All set with what?

The picture only supports OP even more now.

>>378976958
t. Buttblasted OP

Hopefully the next Zelda will get rid of all the shitty shrines. The only proper dungeon in this game was Hyrule Castle.

>>378977154
I prefer the shrines puzzle to old dungeon puzzles tbhfamlam. Just put a different skin on them

>>378976648
OP BTFO

>>378977154
Hopefully the next game will have a combination of both traditional dungeons and shrines to find.

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>>378975990
>third person camera.

>never played the game

>>378977686
Fuck traditional dungeons, I want more hyrule castles.

The old get item to solve puzzles and to kill the boss meme was long overdue for death. No idea why that shit was regurgitated for so long. Zelda 1's dungeons should have been the standard instead.

>>378974715
Dungeons could have been a little better, otherwise it was perfection and it seems the rest of the world outside of /v/'s narcissistic hugbox would agree

>>378975206
>cannot go inside
that's a bold faced lie buddy.

>>378978028
Because Nintendo was just kind of stagnating with no competition. Star Fox Adventures, Okami, Darksiders, Hype the Time Quest, that's about it for Zelda-esque games from other developers. It took them this long to reevaluate and bring the series back to its exploration roots.

>>378978028
>No idea why that shit was regurgitated for so long
because it works and is a great brain teaser.

>>378977686
>combination of both traditional dungeons and shrines
same, everything was great in BotW except the dungeons. I completed them all in about 15 mins each and neither of the bosses or ganon gave me any problem. Same for the shrines apart from the motion controls.
I would like the shrines to be harder, but I also want traditional, large, puzzle dungeons too.

>>378978152
I think even /v/ agrees besides a vocal minority

>>378978372
>brain teaser
No offense but who the fuck besides a retards gets stuck on those puzzles? It's literally lock and key, with a very obvious key and the solution just plays out for you most of the time

The sense of adventure was pretty good, turn off the map and just look at things in the distance and then go to them. But it was all kind of shallow when you actually got to said place. 99% of the time it was either something enclosing a shrine, an orb puzzle that brought up a shrine, or literally nothing like the big Colosseum. There was not enough variation in BOTW. There needed to be more one time events, more weapons you find that you only get once.

Still pretty good tho

>>378978393
>vocal minority
it's only the anti nintendo shitposters who say the game was shit.
Most of them never even played the game becuase they cant afford a wii u or switch.

Dungeons and weapon degrading are the only legitimate gripes.
There is performance/frame rate issues too.

>>378978478
hence why I said brain teaser not challenging puzzles.
Water temple is the only challenging dungeon in zelda games and that is only based on an individuals memory

>>378974715
>what went wrong
Hard mode isn't out yet and I'm getting antsy.

>>378978707
I actually don't have a problem with weapon degration, but I can understand the gripes

And yeah, none of the puzzles are challenging. I would really like dungeons to go back to exploration and neat little secrets instead of boring puzzles

>>378977245
I liked the test chamber-esque feel of them.
>>378977686
This is a good idea
>>378978028
Being able to do them in any order killed them in botw. I don't want to see anything like runes again; at least not getting them all from the start.

The dungeons need to build upon one another making you use all the items/runes to solve by the end, also the way moving the divine beast added an unique, not repeated element to the puzzles of each could stay. They need more combat as while.

>>378979048
I never had a problem with the weapons either. it also gave us a reason to explore to find weapons.
A better variety and maybe some more permanent weapons would have been good.
Possibly making the champion weapons permanent.

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Why are you people arguing with retards that haven't played the game?

BotW was close to being a godsend, which is why the lack of explorable atmospheric structures (like the tower of hera shown in teh LttpP art) fucking pains me so much.

How hard could it have been for Nintendo to make some dungeons like Hyrule Caste inside places like say, the serpent's jaw in the jungle or in the ruins before Mt Lanayru? They would not only serve to give us some cool treasure/items but also provide some incredible atmosphere and gameplay that can only be found inside such places.

This would have elevated the game from the 8/10 that it is to at least a 9/10 and I'm still baffled by Nintendo's decision to not have such an easy to think of design choice in the game. I say this as someone who doesn't believe in perfect games.

>>378979431
>I don't want to see anything like runes again
this is one of the major things that made the game so good though anon, manipulating the physics with the runes

>>378979697
But we had them all from the start so that all the dungeons could be done from the get go. Let me explore and find something I can't do yet, or maybe don't let me solve in a more easy/cheesing way till end game.

>>378979575
I agree. Seeing the same shitty 15 minute dungeon 4 times in a row knocked a point or two off the game for me. They could have easily knocked out a quarter of the shrines and put those puzzles into actual dungeons. The champions also needed more exposition. It was kind of hard to care for them when all we got was like 2 cutscenes and a few textboxes detailing our prior relationship with them.

>>378980061
>dungeons
Except there were no dungeons. Who the fuck decides it's a good idea to replace dungeons with large shrines? It was fucking ridiculous and I spent a good deal of my first 30 hours into the game trying to find a dungeon.

>This thread
>Every fucking day

>>378979519
it's for (you)s

blood moon should have been more awesome

The mini dungeon inside the shrines could easily fit in that temple on the left.

>>378975305
>>378974873
>last pic not of the Forgotten Temple
you both are small time, one of the best discoveries in the game
and then you take one step inside and have 6 Guardian lasers on you

>>378974715
Listen, BOTW is a great game. One of the best in years. Having said that, it's releasing in a year with a lot of top tier competition, and the only reason it's fanbase is trying to hard to meme it to GOTY status is because it's the one thing justifying their Switch purchase. As long as one conveniently forgets it also came out on the Wii-U.

Persona 5 and Nier have already topped it, and RDR2, Destiny 2, SMOdyssey, and Fractured but Whole have yet to release.

>>378980329
I feel you, but they are the dungeons of that game.

You probably agree with my other post; which to add it'd be nice to see nice architecture instead of the beasts. But, keep the unique non-item/rune puzzle element.

>>378980975
>>378980975
>Nier
>topping anything
That unbalanced garbage couldn't top a submissive faggot in a porty potty at pride.

>no heart pieces
>120 2 minute shrine puzzles with the same music and theme instead of 8-20 decently sized and well-designed dungeons with their own unique identities and atmosphere
>only world dungeon is yiga hideout which takes 30 seconds and sucks
>precisely one good sidequest with depth and isn't a fetchquest for rupees or food
>forced motion control puzzles
>too easy, hard mode is DLC
>only crafting skill is cooking which may as well be cheat codes since it basically trivializes any challenge in the game
>hearts you find in the world are replaced by food which you can carry infinite amounts of can and just heal yourself to full health via the pause menu if you're in a tight spot
And of course:
>weapons too fragile while also being too common which means your combat experience will be interrupted every 20 seconds to go into the equipment menu and switch out weapons just like the iron boots only it persists through out the entire game and this somehow adds an extra layer of difficulty and survival except it doesn't because the enemies drop a million fucking weapons that scale with your progression so link will never have any issue with finding good gear anyway
and lastly:
>the hardware

>>378981167
They aren't fucking dungeons, there were shrines bigger than them. It was fucking stupid. I swear to god they went with the whole "divine beast" garbage after designing half of the dungeons and decided to cut the dungeons up into shrines.

>>378981428
poor attempt at falseflaging.

>>378981527
>they aren't dungeons
???
>there are shrines bigger than them
?????????


I'll never understand the kind of person that just says shit

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>>378981527
Are we debating to go off botw dungeons/shrines, or the dungeons of old as the template for the next game?

Were we on the same page?

We agree that they might as while not be dungeons.

>>378974715
Well for starters, the game starts out reasonably difficult and gets way too easy way too fast.

Once you have Mipha's and Revali's gale they both pretty much take a dump on the combat being difficult and the exploration.

>>378981527
There absolutely were not shrines bigger than the divine beasts, and I say that as someone who did 109/120 of them.

BotW's Divine Beast/Shrine system is probably the best in any Zelda game to date.
Fuck dungeons, I hope they never return,
unless they're all similar in quality to Hyrule Castle.

>>378983259
I don't know about you, but my first champion power was 12 hours into the game, and by then, I'd already fought 2 lynels, 3 hinoxes, and a stalnox.

Plus, you can disable them. Not like Mipha's Grace stops you from getting bullied by the stronger enemies in the game. What you really need is upgraded armor.

Which is why I didn't upgrade my armor past t2, and didn't get max hearts. I was still getting 2/3 shot by guardians and lynels.

>>378983529
One of the last shrines I found was bigger than Rudania, give me a minute to try and find it.

>>378983838
Vah Rudania is a lot of backtracking in a compact space. Some shrines might be bigger in size, but not in content.

>>378984527
Kah Okeo (Wind Guide) was one of the shrines I was referring to. I think it's the only (or one of the only) shrines with balloons.

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>>378974715
fixed it for you

>>378985786
>not calibrating your tv correctly

>>378986237
You mean the switch screen?

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>>378986237
the whole game has an ugly gray haze over it not related to your screen at all.

>>378985786
There's a video where a guy explains that a lot of people (including nintendo) don't know how to use capture cards properly and demonstrates the differences between doing it correctly and incorrectly. I'll post it if I can find it.

>>378985786
Here's the video I was referring to in >>378986584
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIiijEKOFtU