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https://twitter.com/BornFreeTweets/status/870601509221924865
>Capcom
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>>378964898
SFV needs a re-release more than any previous game in the series
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>>378964898
when will this garbage company cease to exist
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Will sfv players be able to play against ssfv players?
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>>378965213
It's not going to be a different release like with SF4 versions, it's going to be a free upgrade for the owners of SFV.
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Good, SFV needs a relaunch. They seriously need to wash away as much of the taste of vanilla SFV as humanly possible. Assuming this is an upgrade available for people who already own the game of course.

Otherwise they can fuck off.
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>>378965292
That's kinda cool then, they owe the players a bit.
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>>378965005
This. They made mistakes with SFV but it's nothing that can't be fixed with the kind of tweaking done in super versions. If they do this right SFV could be the best Street Fighter. I'm excited.
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>>378964898
It's for the best honestly.
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Who cares, it's not like they'd have actual talented designers at the helm either way. It'll still be a shit. Just repackaged shit.
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>>378965005
>>378965619
>>378965758

I think Capcom said it would not release other versions.
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>>378966175
Whats wrong with the designs? That's like the least of their problems.
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I hope they let people get a lot more creative with the "expansion".
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>amazing animations like Gief and Fang on season 1
>season 3 filled with Cammy's airthrow tier animation

I'm not sure if I want it.
https://j.gifs.com/Z4ErZ5.gif
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>>378966246
All they need to do is to release some kind of GOTY edition featuring Season Passes for earlier years and release a patch changing it's name to "Super Street Fighter V"
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Has anybody else been having trouble getting matches lately?
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>>378964898
>w..w..we wont do super version this time i swear!

This trainwreck of a game deserves to die completely
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>>378964898
>characters getting a new critical art
I'd rather see characters getting a second V-system to choose from before the fight. By V-system i mean V-reversal, V-skill, V-trigger and Crush-counter buttons.
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>>378966246
It's a free update though if you already own it. It's also a good way to get new people in with past dlc characters included.
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>>378966671

They claimed they would never do a MANDATORY revision. See it more like a bundle than an expansion.
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>>378966749
When did they remove the clit?
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>>378964898
I wouldnt mind a Super version, as long as the current owners get the essential new stuff for free.

It's freaking 30 years of Street Fighter, they gotta do something big.

But at the same time, that "leak" is really just a combination of all existing leaks and some shit that happens out come out of Alex Valle's tweet, its really difficult to believe that fully.
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>all that DLC
I feel bad for paying customers. Will pirate SFV when Necro comes out though
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>>378966671
They can't this time, they sold DLC for their first edition. SSFIV WAS the DLC. If they do SSFV, they'll piss of EVERYONEEEEEEEEEE who bought a season pass, and piss off even more people who didn't buy anything beyond the first pass once it became apparent what they were doing. Changing the season pass to season pass 2016 then making Akuma the first unlock in the next "season's" pass? Holy hell, fuck you Capcom, I have principles. My friend won't even buy the fucking game because it requires extra money to play akoomer, I just wanna SPD his ass and he's not spending $30 after purchasing SFV for a pass
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>want Sakura
>hate most of what they've done to all returning fighters
I'm torn senpai
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>>378966580
Everyone moved on.
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>>378967068
I mean he could buy the game and do the sory mode to afford akoomers with fight monies but hes not wrong
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>>378966341
Design doesn't entail only art, goober.
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>>378967170
Yeah not surprising tekken did just come out.
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>>378967068
Addendum

The game sat in my library unplayed because of lobbies being set to "Best of 3" and shit. Giving me Guile bought me back into the fold for a bit, but the netcode is atrocious and there's no voicechat. The game's so unfinished it's not even funny. Why is Capcom cramming so many unwanted characters into this game?
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>>378967204
Don't call me names.
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>>378967331
Dork.
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I'm not a competifag but

>Q is joining the roster

Holy penis, that guy was so cool. The game deserves an extra score just for that, then 2 removed for crippling Juri so hard.
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>>378967321

You can set up lounges to be FT1, FT3, FT5 and FT10, with 1, 3 or 5 rounds. If you're talking about casual and ranked matches, you can decline the rematch.
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>>378964898
>https://twitter.com/BornFreeTweets/status/870601509221924865
>https://www.reddit.com/r/Kappa/comments/6eqnpt/because_incompetence_has_consequences_heres_mvci/
>You're probably curious of the characters too, huh? Those 6 will be Sagat, Sakura, Oro, C. Viper, Q, and Necro.

>Q
>/myguy/

I really hope this is true.
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>>378964898
>itt a bunch of retards thinking they mean a new game
all the leakers who are talking about this say this is just a huge update and a disc version will be included for players who never bought it.

but please keep saying they promised no super version when they said that there will be no required purchase to stay competitive in the game, which really means you will never have to buy a balance patch
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Season 3 sounds really amazing and it might make me interested in the game again. I don't know why they decided to make the S2 roster of literally whos
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>>378966580

No, still getting matches just fine.
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>>378966671
>>378967068
it says that SSFV will just be a big overhaul of the existing game, not a separate game. kind of a big 2.0 patch.
they'll also probably launch a SSFV bundle where people can buy the game plus the first two seasons of characters at a reduced price.
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>>378967647
What is the logic for not including blanka and even e honda? They're classic characters.
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>>378967321
>Why is Capcom cramming so many unwanted characters into this game?
I'm sure they are trying to fill the roster with characters that have noticably diverse gameplay.

Casuals/newcomers hated how previously half of the characters were "ryu clones" but they also don't want to piss off the fans by drastically changing these characters so they are making new ones with unique gameplay like Kolin or Ed, instead of adding fan favorite shotos like Sagat or Sakura.
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>>378967759
to be fair, so far the new characters have been pretty cool. ed and kolin feel well designed and unique.
but they certainly don't have the nostalgia fueled power to get old players hyped like sagat or makoto would.
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>>378967647
>Sagat, Sakura, Oro, C. Viper, Q, and Necro.

fuark this is good
now they just need to replace sakura with makoto and they got a really great roster for S3
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>>378964898
>tekken 7 releases strong
>capcom sweating intensifies
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>>378964898

Does that confirms RikuRikuMore leaks?
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>>378968458
not really, since this guy is just saying yeah I heard the same thing and neither of them have any evidence yet
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>>378966442
that's just one animation, everything else looks decent to great.
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>>378969004
>anything in clayfighter 5
>looking great

lmao
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>No Fei Long, Yun, Gen, E.Ryu, V.Ken
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>>378966246
Well this time it's a welcoming change.
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>>378969242
>wanting more shoto characters

I don't get it bro, do you a mental disability on your medical record?
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>>378966246
As long as it's free for existing owners like this reddit faggot says it shouldn't make anyone angry.
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>>378969242
Gen is legit dead this time around, nigga.

Also,
>wanting shoto recolors
Kill yourself.
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>>378966442
Why did cammy get an air throw before my boy alex again?
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>free update for owners of original
they are just going to give away season characters as well?
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>>378969748
The air knee is the same thing.
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>>378969561

>Let's launch the game with only 2 shotos, Ryu and Ken because our fans don't want another shoto infested roster
How could they be so wrong, also it's amazing how shotos and Cammy are so popular but perform so bad in general.
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>>378968036
I don't know but IF HONDA ISN'T THE FIRST CHARACTER RELEASED IN SEASON THREE I'M GONNA PUNCH MIKE ROSS IN THE DICK
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>>378967965
what the fuck could they possibly overhaul for free to make this shit atractive?
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>>378969963
Honda is never coming back nigga.
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>>378969839
Knee is garbage unless you ex it. What would be wrong with giving him his spiral as an air grab a la borscht dynamite?
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I'll be completely honest, Capcom could make Super Street Fighter V a paid revision and I would still buy it. I haven't loved a fighting game as much as Street Fighter V since Soul Calibur and Guilty Gear reload. If this is what needs to happen for Capcom to attract customers then so be it. Besides, Sakura!

I only hope they get some actually talented people to work on the next movie.
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>>378965005
Seeing SFII being re-released in different, official and non official, flavoure every three seconds didn't hurt that much because of arcades.
I don't really feel like buying SFV again.
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>>378969748
an air grab and a couple of buffs won't ever make up for all the things they removed from Cammy during the betas, she's a shadow of what she was.
This also applies to many other characters in this game, they keep removing options and combos from everyone as an easy way to "balance", then they wonder why ppl complain the game is too shallow
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>>378968104
They really ought to have split season 2 in half with 3 veterans and 3 new comers.
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>>378969783
100k FM a piece, boy
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>>378969973
new netcode, new UI, new menus, new CFN, additional supers, gameplay changes, balance changes

that will all be part of the free SSFV update, the new (old) characters will be available as paid DLC like the first two batches were.
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>>378964898

Series will be 30 this August. I really hope they manage to save it with a thing like this.
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So moving right along, I've recently heard of plans about Season 2 possibly being Fantastic Four vs Darkstalkers DLC pack next year, which is how Doom, Skrull, Silver Surfer, and She-Hulk will be an 8 character season instead of 6, and mentioned Felicia and Talbain by name as Darkstalkers being added for it. Hsien-Ko's return could happen in that too to fill a slot and because they can reuse animation assets from MvC3.

Then the Season 3 plans be that X-Men are seemingly going to be added alongside some Street Fighter characters to play on the X-Men vs Street Fighter part of the MvC legacy. Which makes sense since SF only has 2 of them at launch as reps.

Season 2 and 3 from what I know and hear, won't be released like SFV does with the all year thing to only add 6 characters, but instead one season in the first half of the year, and the second in the second half of the year. Though there is some kind of discussion going on about doing 4 seasons a year, meaning a season every 3 months (like actual seasons of the year, though not accurate probably as they'd follow January-March, April-June, July-September, and October-December).

>possible j. Talbain/gallon, Doctor Doom
Please lord, please be true
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I'm hoping its true. The story mode and extra battle mode have been leaked from the files by Xkira. Hopefully there's something at E3
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>>378969783
>Capcom
I really doubt they're giving anything for "free", anyone that already has SFV is already willing to get fucked by paying a SSFV version anyway
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>>378966749
Since selectable supers aren't a thing any more it would be cool if selectable V-Skills were a thing. Either new moves or maybe an old move a character had.
It would be really nice to have Scarlet Terror back.
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>>378970331

I miss her nipples.
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I don't understand how anyone believes this rumor. I want it to be true for sure but its just so obvious that Capcom has a serious structural issue and probably financial issues.

Everything they do is an attempt to do things on the cheap like outsourcing work to 3rd parties (a la Ibuki) and handing off the netcode to a single person.

idk guys, that rumor is way too hopeful to be true.
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>>378967647
>Sagat, Sakura, C. Viper, Oro, Necro, Q.
That's pretty damn good.
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>>378966246
They said no rereleases that divide the player base like every version of SF4.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/Yoshi_OnoChin/status/869976001605885952
Just got to wait now.
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>>378971335
I always feel bad for Ono when shit leaks.
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>>378971125
>like outsourcing work to 3rd parties (a la Ibuki)
who did the ibuki work?
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>>378966246
Re-release it as in needing to buy the game again. Like Revelator. What SSFV would is is an update, like all other fighting games have been doing this gen.

This "leak" is basically what S2 opf SFV should've been, but no, we get capcom bumbling around and changing some frame data and having more betas for the game that do absolutely nothing for it.
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>>378971125
I just don't understand what the fuck Capcom is doing. It's clear that they are on the fence of going bankrupt considering how desperately they are trying to save money, but then why the fuck were they doing abolutely risky developments like Deep Down?
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>>378971470
I feel bad for Ono in general. I have a feeling he doesn't have as much power as his title of 'Executive Producer' implies.
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>>378970634
It really would.
Still not enough to save him from irrelevancy though.
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>>378967647
I'm so hype for C Viper. She has potential.
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Ever since the Ed patch, I the game refuses to connect to the servers for me. Seems to affect every person with my ISP, which is half of fucking germany. Tried every fix proposal, sent a couple of support tickets, bitched on all the forums. I haven't been able to play the game for 5 days now and I didn't even get so much as an official response from Capcom.

Why am I complaining here now? The idea that some "new version" is going to come along and fix the game is ridiculous to me. The amount of trouble I've put up with for this game is downright silly. This is still a fucking alpha version and they just keep putting layer over layer of shit on top of it. This game will never be good, not because Capcom can't design fighting games, but based on the technical issues alone. They would have do redo fucking the entire game from scratch, there's obviously deep rooted issues deep down in the code somewhere that they are not able to fix. Never ending connection issues, terrible load times on everything, shoddy netcode, high ass input delay, and people go YAY new features, I'm sitting here having paid 60 bucks for a game I can't even play right now, and have not been able to at multiple times in the past, give me a fucking break...
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>>378969898
That would be because the Rookie, Bronze and Silver leagues are full of shitters using Ryu, Cammy, Ken and Akuma.
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>>378971690
Vega feels like the perfect example of how shit SFV's balancing has been. One of his main flaws is extremely obvious with his claw stance having horrible range despite being meant for long reaching pokes but they refuse to fix it. That and having not having a good anti-air anymore.
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I wish they'd add Darkstalkers characters to SFV as a what if scenario.
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>>378967647
All solid choices, bur still needs more Makoto
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>>378971581
https://www.artstation.com/artist/mariempepin
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>>378970331
>Cammy players complaining about anything

Fucking lol, you already have a top five character fuck off already
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>>378969561
>wanting more shoto characters
None of the shotos play anything alike and haven't since the mid 90s.
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>>378972030
I mean with a MvC game on the horizon it just seems like a strange fit. Might as well save them for MvCi.
>>378971625
Its perplexing because RE7 was so good. You could say Sony helped out because they wanted to push their VR headset but obviously Sony pushed for SFV as well.
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>holding Doc Ock, Venom, Songbird, BP, Captain Commando and Asura hostage for MVC DLC
fuck Capcom
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I CAN'T FUCKING DO VEGA TRIAL 6

EVERY FUCKING TIME HE DOES HIS FUCKING ROLL INSTEAD OF JUMPING TO A WALL

FUCK THE RETARDED SHORYUKEN MOTION
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>>378972556
Let me guess, you're using the analog stick instead of the d-pad.
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>>378971812
Chill out, mein Freund. Just play story mode in the meantime. :)
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>>378970471
season 2 is not FF I only know this because we have 6 comics with out characters in mvci, meaning FF will be season 3 at the earliest
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>>378972714

>mfw can only cancel into dp motions on analog

I gave up on Karin trials. I can get the just frame consistently, but can't the qcf k hold down punch
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>>378972556
You should try Karin's trials
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>>378964898
Ah, so this game won't be good until mid-2018. Good to know
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>>378964898
>SFV stuff

I'm OK with all of this
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>>378972242
t. salty Alex player
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>>378972931
Do we know what season 1 is supposed to be?
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>>378972804
I would consider grinding for some fight money but I can't even do that. I'm not gonna torture myself just for shits and giggles
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>>378972548
>Lock all of the interesting and unique characters that should have been in the base roster as dlc.
This shit has surpassed infuriating and now has just become tiring Capcom.
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>>378972556
FUCK NOW HE FUCKING ROLLS WHEN I WANT TO STANCE CHANGE

FUCK THIS SHITTY GAME
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>>378973027
here are the comics with out characters for them
Spider-man and deadpool
Spider-man
Defenders
Black panther
Thor
I am groot

now before anyone says thor is in the game or spider-man both of them have other comics they are on the cover of
Spider-man is on amazing spider-man and thor is on thor generations

now seeing as we have 6 comics left and season 1 is only 3 marvel and 3 capcom that will leave us with 3 more variants still with out a character.

they have said the covers feature marvel characters appearing in mvci
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>>378973215
Keep practicing. I know you can do it.
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>>378973071
I really feel bad for you, I hope it will be fixed soon. I would even invite you for a match once the trouble is gone but I live in NA. Try Tekken 7 is a nice distraction though I really was thinking on refunding it
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>>378971625
>Deep Down

I was honestly interested in it and tried to follow it but news about it just stopped coming and Capcom just let it be forgotten. It's obviously started up because Dark Souls was all the rage but Capcom missed the boat on getting it out before everyone seemed to get tired of Souls games.
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Why are people taking this leak seriously?

I'm asking, not being an ass.
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put Cammy in Mahvel
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C.Viper main here, I don't think she'd fit in SFV.
She was a execution heavy monster in SF4, execution doesn't exist in SFV, she won't be as fun.
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>>378973179
Well. I think the common retarded consumer is excited to see these lame ass basic movie heroes and would hop on the game just for them, where as capcom and MvC fans will be excited to see returning and actually interesting roster pics as paid dlc.
I assume that's the thinking here at least. I can see kids freaking out over marvel and wanting the game from that alone.
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>>378973519
this particular leaker has been right about every capcom game since sf4 arcade edition
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>>378973318
That doesn't mean every single variant counts as a single character pick though.
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>>378973519
Because we're desperate for hope
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>>378973519
Because it is the logical thing to do so you can save your franchise that will be 30 years old this year. Also because of other similar rumors and upcoming news at E3.
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This will save SFV for sure.
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>>378973540
That's something they can change with the expansion.
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>>378973548
I don't know a single person, even a complete normie who likes Gamora over other Gaurdians like Drax or Starlord. What makes this leaked roster so disappointing if it's true is that the MCU offers such better choices.
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FUCK, I CAN DO A FUCKING REVERSE SHORYUKEN AND THAT PIECE OF SHIT COM STILL BLOCKS MY SHIT
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>got all the S1 DLC characters with fight money
>got two stages with fight money
>got all the S2 characters so far with fight money
>volume 2 trials and single player stuff with Ed gave me a good boost in fight money
>still have enough fight money to get the remaining S2 characters for free, as well as the first two season 3 characters
>all this new content will only add to the fight money count

das it mane
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>>378973519
The SSFV part was hinted by several people in the FGC. For the MvCI characters he got loads of them right like the two GnG reps, Jedah, the Monster Hunter, the remaining ones must be the ones Capcom chopped out of the game to sell later.
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>>378973918
Starlord is in that twitter post leak.
And welcome to female hero picks anon, they always suck but they're there to fill the roster. Trish was in over Virgil in MvC3 vanilla afterall.
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>>378973952

You used the 1 round survival, didn't you?
I only did normal with Mika, and I wouldn't do it again even if it rewarded 100k.
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>>378973948
I FUCKING GOT IT

GO FUCK YOURSELF, PAST ME
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>>378974124
I'm a PS4 player

pic is out of date as of yesterday, but I'm just under 500k FM now

Normal mode survival is a cake walk
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>>378971581
>>378972097
ibuki really isnt a bad modeling job
its just that someone at capcom picked the worst possible pose and frame for her winning pose, so it looks completely retarded
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>>378973520

>Felicia not in

Fuck this fucking game fuck
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Where are they?
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>>378974063

Trish was in because the DMC team made that a requirement to adding Dante.

>tfw people just found a non-TAC infinite with her
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9g7_Ig1KIY
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>>378964898
Pretty obvious this was going to happen with how terribly SFV has been doing.
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>>378974301

If you're a masochist, yes.
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>>378974472
>Still nothing on Lady being in Infinite.
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>>378974472

lmao that's sick
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Your Top 5 and Bottom 5 GO:

Top:
Guile, Ibuki, Guile, Urien, Balrog

Bottom:
Ryu, Alex, Cammy, Fang, Vega
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>>378974569
>spam sweep and jump in combos to win

WOW SO DIFFICULT

Hard and Extreme Survival is a different story though, that shit is retarded
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>>378971812
Move to Austria.

At least we have a lots of ISPs and the competition between them is strong.
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>>378974457
They're gonna be the E3 announcement.
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>>378974637
>cammy bottom 5
diaper post
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>>378973023
I'm an Alex player and I have no salt. Idgaf about tiers. I just play who I find fun.
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>>378974637
>Cammy
>bottom 5

don't know about how the tiers shifted after this patch, but at least pre-patch

top:
Balrog, Guile, Ibuki, Necalli, Karin

bottom:
Ryu, Chun, Alex, Fang, Vega
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>>378974827
>they get announced at E3
>redditbabies will still complain about how "disgusting" it is that it took capcom so long to officially announce these costumes
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>>378974637
Top 5
Zangief
Zangief
Zangief
Tekken 7

Bottom 5
Everyone else
Capcom
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>S2.5 balance patch
>all those significant nerfs for Guile and Urien
>Balrog gets a whopping hit of 25 to his health and nothing else

What the fuck did Capcom mean by this?
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>>378964898

So the Marvel leak wasn't full

Good
Though it looks like he didn't leak all the Capcom characters, i need more variety
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>>378975147
One of the balance devs is definitely a Balrog main.
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>>378975094
I have a feeling they might do a second story mode that ties into sf3 a bit more, and introduce the costumes for that.
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>post yfw Super Street Fighter V *Also Available on Xbox One
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>>378964898
Will it a: rebuild the netcode, b: be extremely optimized ala t7 and c: make the gameplay more complex?

if not, dont bother capcom.
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JUST FIX THE INPUT LAG ALREADY REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Hire a fucking engineer or two!
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>>378974637

Guile, Balrog, Cammy, Necalli, Urien

Fang, Alex, Ryu, Nash, Birdie
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>>378975254
I'd love that. Maybe if they do another story mode after that, it can be moreso a recreation of the SF3 stories.
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>>378964898
fuck off.
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>>378975170
The Marvel leak was full, the other characters are dlc
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>>378975308
>Birdie
>Frame 1 armored moves
>amazing damage and range
>one of the best AAs in the game

I don't think he's top 5, but he's definitely not bottom 5.
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>>378975571

Bottom five was really hard to do to me. It's like Fang and Alex are low, Ryu and Nash are low mid, and Birdie are the lowest of the mid tier.
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>>378966246
The same company said that Super Street Fighter IV Arcade Edition 2012 would be the final release only to release Ultra Street Fighter IV
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The one thing that bothers me about this "Leak" is that he's saying the DLC packs are theme specific

But he's not mentioning the first one with Sigma and supposedly Venom, who are the other 4?

He makes it sound like the other DLC packs will be themed but not the first one
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>>378975147
>>378975252
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mSbHE5iHUQ
hmm
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>>378974747
is there a good way to cheese the ai in those difficulties?
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>>378975907
Venom is a 2018 character, guessing it the first and second pack on the Marvel side will be:
Doc Ock, Star-Lord, Songbird
Ms. Marvel, Black Panther (February release to keep with the movie), Venom.
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>>378975956
I fucking hate bionic arm so much.
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>>378975907
Venom is in DLC1 because he's going to be in ending of Spider-Man homecoming.
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>>378972946
That's the one I'm still stuck on. Gonna go back to it real soon and finally do it. Need that FM.
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Guys I have had a boner for hours
What do I do
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>>378976196
The Venom movie isn't even in the MCU
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>>378976240

Watch the vol.2 demonstrations.
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>>378974846
indeed
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>>378971996
the last time vega had a good anti air was in SF2.
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>>378964898
>twitter link to a twitter link to a reddit link
>OP
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>>378976350
>spiderman homecoming
Are you stupid?
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>>378975776
What about Juri? I don't play her, so I don't know how good she was buffed with the 2.1 patch.
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>>378967647
I'm glad that this leak is fake because this is a legit fucking garbage s3 roster.
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>>378967759
I mean so far I like the new characters more than most of the changed returning characters. Kolin is an A+ character and while I scoffed at Ed originally after playing him I realized none of the people who complain about DP inputs would be able to use him anyways because I doubt anyone who can't handle moving a stick can press as many buttons as he needs to or time their inputs well enough to keep his mash punishment from kicking in.
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>>378975274
**and Switch.
Nintendo further censors Cammy and Mika's costumes
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>>378976495
Marvel will never let they use Homecoming to promote Sony's planned "Spider-Universe".
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>>378972280
Is that why all the kens swapped to Akuma instantly?
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>>378976627

She got pretty buffed on S2. But she was never really bad, she just wasn't worth it, since you'll get more from her playstyle with Karin and Cammy.
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>>378970331

Cammy players can suck dick you already have stupid shit like safe spin knuckle, you don't even need to think about which one to use you just hit v skill and the game does it for you, it adjusts itself if you crossover your opponent.

But sit there and complain faggot.
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>>378967647
>Q when we have Balrog
>Necro when we have Dhalsim

Wut?
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>>378970331
Well I mean they did. Fortunately they seem to have realized that they fucked up and are adding shit back in.
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>>378973871
Do you really think capcom will touch core things like that? I dont think so, all we can hope for is for more v-skills and critical arts. I honestly dont want my mains from IV or III to come out in V, they are so watered down that they become pretty shitty.
Pls capcom, never put dudley, elena, rolento or el fuerte on V.
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>>378976696
Sony and Disney already worked a deal, this is why the Andrew Garfield spider-man series is dead, and they're rebooting it again with Tom Holland in Homecoming.

This new spider-man will coexist with the MCU.
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>>378976895
this list has been around for months
it's fake and the only likely characters are Sagat and Sakura
maybe C.Viper but if Oro or Makoto get in it'll be the same case as Juri where no one actually played them and their style is butchered
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But do I have to buy it again or not?
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>>378976895
What similarities do Necro and Dhalsim ave at all besides stretchy limbs? They very differently.
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>>378964898
just rumor spreading nothing concrete
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>>378976120
I beat Hard with Ryu, Ken, Chun-Li, Cammy, Nash, Bison, Karin, and Rashid

I beat Extreme with Ryu, Ken, Chun, and Cammy

For Hard, you should be able to cheese the AI the same way you'd cheese the AI in Normal mode up until around stage 40 or so, that's when the difficulty noticeably spikes.

When I say spam sweeps, you basically get a free sweep every time the AI is walking forward. You can't abuse it as much once the difficulty spike kicks in.

Every time you score a knockdown, jump in on the AI on their wake up. Mix up between cross ups and deep jump in HP/HK. If the jump in connects, do a BNB combo into knockdown and repeat. If they block, back off and look for the opportunity to sweep or jump in again.

The AI rarely punishes DPs, so you can spam those with Ryu, Ken, and Cammy, but that was mostly a season one tactic do to them being completely invincible. It's probably not as effective any more since the AI can still meaty you.

For Chun, use her v-skill to jump in. Her regular jump is too floaty; v-skill is lower to the ground and more ambiguous to block.

Cammy has great frame data on her normals, so even if the AI blocks, you can catch the AI with her DP if you delay it (ie, AI blocks st. MP, cr. MP, delay the DP input after the cr. MP and it catches the AI pressing buttons more times often than not)

Nash, I threw his slowest Sonic Boom and followed after it to try jump in on the AI and frame trap them.

Bison has good frame data as well and a very good cross up, use that to your advantage

Rashid can cheese the AI by just spamming Eagle Spikes. If they block, back dash and do it again. I perfected Necalli on the final stage doing that.

Karin has a very good sweep that's hard to punish when done at max distance, so use that to your advantage.

I also managed to get to stage 50 on hard with Vega twice from spamming max distance sweeps, jump ins, and his flying barcelona attack, but I got destroyed by Necalli at the end each time though
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>>378977150
>They play very Differently*
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>>378965292
>Capcom
>"""""free"""""

Keep dreaming cakeboy
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>>378976687
Mika wasn't censored. (Unless you're talking about the camera angle for her CA)
Cammy got her nipple outlines removed though, so did Chun.
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>>378977010
Sony is still going with the planned Spider-Man related movies, among them Venom and a Black Cat/Silver Sable movie that aren't connected at all with the MCU, Spider-Man will also drop off after Homecoming 2.
http://www.cbr.com/sonys-venom-film-is-not-connected-to-the-mcu-at-all/
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>>378976895
It's not like Q's moveset won't get mostly redesigned to differentiate him
Necro is different enougn
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>>378977420
So two different Spidermans?
Garfield and Holland?
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>>378976895

Right, don't add Necro. Better add another generic rushdown.
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>>378977108
No, read it.
The really question is if we'll get the SSFV characters for free if we already own SFV
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>>378976895
>Two characters that play nothing like two other characters

Wot?!?!?!

Wow how could they
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>>378977615
What about costumes?
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>>378976890
>safe spin knuckle
37 startup frames, lol a move as slow as this will 99% of the time be safe on block.
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>>378977554
Still Holland, but he will be removed from the MCU after the 3 movie clause ends. Just remember the producer of the Spider-Man movie is that Sony executive that approved the Ghostbusters movie and thought that a Sinister Six flick and a Tobey/Garfield Spider-Man crossover movie would break 2b in box office.
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>>378976895
This meme needs to die already.
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>>378975147
They don't want to upset all the kiddies who never played a fighting game before that jumped on Balrog's dick and unga bunga'd their way to Gold.
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>>378977985
Oh look, it's Balrog.
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>>378978080
Remember that time Balrog learned command grab and learned how to self destruct?
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>Free update

But will there be a version for Dudebrobox One and Scorpio?
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CAN WE PLEASE GET A WAY TO UNLOCK ALT COLORS FOR EXTRA COSTUMES WITHOUT HAVING TO SLOG THROUGH SURVIVAL NORMAL AND HARD EVERY TIME

LITERALLY NOBODY THINKS THIS IS FUN
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>>378978149
Of course, anon. It was in Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike.

:^)
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>>378974301
>Tfw I'm Super Plat and can't even do one hard Survival
Tell me your secrets senpai.
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>>378973540
So was Juri and she got made to fit.
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>>378978538
as soon as tell me how to get out of Gold hell

well, I mean I guess maining Ryu in season 2 doesn't help because's dumpster tier now and there's nothing cheap in his toolset to explot, but that's besides the point

tips here
>>378977316
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Can't they at least get a different naming?

SUPER Street Fighter again? Can't they go with Victory Street Fighter V (VSFV) or Critical Street Fighter V?
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>>378977554
Garfield isnt a spiderman no more. He got dropped.

>>378977420
Sony are also doing a Venom movie (with potentially tom hardy attached) So venom makes sense.
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>>378979127
Please never pursue a career in marketing or advertising
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>>378979127
what?

No, of course not. Fuck off.
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>>378979127
Street Fighter W
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>>378979127
They want something that'll stick with their usual conventions so people don't think it's some kind of collectors edition, I'd imagine.
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>>378967321

Like who, motherfucker? I fucking hate Guile but he's back so you don't get to complain about R Mika, Laura, or Ed.
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Does anyone know if "fight money earned by character" in your battle profile include money earned by characters doing the weekly missions? Like say, if you earned 500 fm by doing 10 combos and happened to be playing Cammy when you did your 10th combo, would that 500 fm go to her count?
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>>378979127
Of all the autistic complaints I've seen in this thread, yours is the worst.
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>>378976932
>>378976932
I'd prefer Elena
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>>378979562
It has to be bait desu.

Seemingly successful too.
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>>378976895

The defense of why Q can't be in games is as dumb as justifying shoto clones.
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Am I the only one who doesn't hate the way most old characters were adapted into the game?
My only complaints are with Juri, who's playstyle got changed a bit too much, and Vega, who is no longer a charge character.
Other than that I think other characters got changed in the moves they have but tend to have a very similar playstyle to their older versions.
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I can guarantee that I'm the only individual on this earth who can honestly say that they love SFV. Not just play for the sponsors, not just tolerate, but fucking love to death.
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>>378979096
Well, as a Vega main, I can't really help with Ryu too much, but as a general guideline:
1. Don't spam DP's so much. I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and say you don't, but it's useful to know anyways just in case, they can get you blown up for free.
2. Learn when you can punish a move. I generally use https://fullmeter.com/ to learn frame data.
3. Obviously learn your biggest punish, so you can exploit weaknesses in your opponents when they do happen.
4. Keep calm in a match. I don't know how many times I lost while in Gold because I just got so nervous I blew my entire meter on a random super that didn't kill.
5. Every time you rank up, grind the fuck out of casual matches to learn what players in that skill bracket do.
Sorry if this isn't really helpful, but these are what got me to the rank I'm at now. Feel free to ask any questions, I guess.
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>tfw after all that time arguing with Kattfag, we get that fucking roster
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>>378977387
Are you retarded? It's just an update. You'll still have to buy/grind the new characters.
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>>378980260
I quit ranked because it's been infected with Balrog and Guile players and I can't do shit in those match ups so it isn't worth it

It isn't so much that I'm nervous or blatantly dumb shit when playing for me. I'd say it's a combination of lack of knowledge of frame data, poor reactions, and Ryu having zero offensive options in a game that's designed to be offensive
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>>378980223
You're not, my friend. You're not.
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>>378972548
Artist?
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>>378964898
Don't tell me that I'll have to buy SF5 again. I already bought the 2 season passes.
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>>378980158
I never played SF4, but I really like how Juri plays now. Was she more complex before since she only has 3 special moves now?
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>>378981770
It'll probably just be a rebrand with all the DLC so far included. Everybody would tear Capcom apart if they made a mandatory update you would have to pay for.
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>>378981313
I just wish input lag was fixed its all I need
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>>378981860

She shot projectiles on 3 directions instead of just one, and could do just the kick motion and store the fireball while you hold the button, and release it anytime. She was more "complex". But I never played 4, so there's probably more than just her fireball game.
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>>378971812

To be this incredibly stupid to think that a game needs to be "reworked from scratch" is unfathomable.
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>>378981003
>tfw can't play casual because I'm a low rank shitter, and it's full of skilled Silvers like you who drop ranked and purposely stay at Rookie/Bronze to body people like me

Literally fuck you
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>>378982218
Nigga what, I'm Gold rank and even in casuals, I consistently rank against other golds
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>>378978316

You can buy the colors in sets (base,S1,S2) with FM.
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>>378975869
and thank god they did
giving Makoto the ability to hit EX fukiage on the ground was a godsend
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>>378982218

>tfw hit silver
>stay in casuals until I get confortable with the skill level
>never get confortable

I can play against gold and higher friends, and I feel that if I ragequitted my way to platinum, my skill would improve a lot, but everyone says that I should know how to tame random silver Kens, so I don't want skip that step.
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>>378982383
I'm talking about the people that stopped trying to rank up once they reached Super Bronze, or even never played ranked at all so they're still listed as rookie, but practice in casual long enough that they're basically smurfing for free wins.
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>>378981860
It's more the fact that she used to be more of a zoning characters because of her fireballs and normals.
They changed her a lot, so now she's a bit more rushdown inclined.
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>>378982218
>Super Plat
>get matched with Diamonds
>win 50% of the time
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>>378982404
Yeah but you can't buy colors for the special costumes. You still have to grind Survival with them on to get their other colors right?
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>>378980223
I love it too, I just can't deny that it needs improvement
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>>378966948
Who
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>>378982938

For story costumes there's a separate bundle, while premium costumes already come with all the colors unlocked.
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>it's the year NRS and Namco have better fighting games than Capcom
What a time to be alive
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>>378965619
Yea thats exactly what they need to do to save the game, appeal to the competitive scene even more.
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>>378983372
Who cares about casuals? The scene is what keeps fighting games alive. Casuals only want to watch cutscenes. See: Injustice 2.
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>>378983362

Injustice 2 is not better than Street Fighter V. Tekken is not even the same game as Street Fighter.
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>>378983372

Who in all of actual hell gives a single goddamn shit about casuals?
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>>378982171
Well, fathom it because apparently I am. Now if you would enlighten me as to why that makes me so incredibly stupid, I'm all ears.
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Have they fired Ono yet?
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>>378971125

>like outsourcing work to 3rd parties (a la Ibuki)

Not just Ibuki. Capcom designed the gameplay but everything else [music, art, engine, netcode, everything] was outsourced to various Canadian companies and freelancers.

SFIV was all done in-house, which is why the quality of everything from music to art is so much superior to SFV's. SFIV had like the best netcode when it came to fighting games... But then they went so cheap with SFV it's stupid.
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>>378983372

>extra battle
>illuminati PvE
>arcade mode
>"appeal to the competitive scene even more"
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>>378983525
>>378983661
The developers with a financial interest, obviously. What a stupid fucking question.
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>>378984073

There it is again. We had this discussion with Tekken 7 recently and it was just as dumb as well. Fuck casuals, they are not mandatory at all to fighting games.
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>>378982703
>if I ragequitted my way to platinum

They made it so that when you quit you lose points now. Plus, with repeated offense, an icon of shame next to your name that makes you preferably get matched with other quitters. Thank fucking god.

Also I feel the need to say that I am diamond rank. And that I think it's cute when people talk about those pesky skilled silver players "smurfing" or whatever because I don't think I can discern a difference in skill between someone in silver and someone in bronze
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>>378984073
Are you a Capcom developer? No? Then why do you care?

Making a good game should always come first. And casuals don't appreciate a good fighting game.
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>>378984025

SFIV was fully done by Dimps.
Music is one of the only things done great in V. Gief, Fang and Dhalsim were outsourced as well, and they're the best animated characters. The problem is consistency.
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>>378983360
>while premium costumes already come with all the colors unlocked.

Alright that ain't so bad then. Except the whole having to pay real money thing.
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>>378973648
they stated every cover is a different character so yes it does
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>>378984247
Yeah, I really hate this argument.

What is it with people nowadays using mass appeal as an indicator that they're playing the 'correct' game?
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>>378984247
Except it's super fucking easy to appeal to casuals with single player content, why wouldn't you add it in? It doesn't matter if they drop the game in 2 months, spending a little extra time adding in some useless modes that give you some FM, or extra little unlockable cutscenes/story would give you a huge surge of casuals to prop your game up on release.
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>>378984507

Well, its not even that, when it came that EVEN TEKKEN 7 wasn't exempt from this stupid logic of pandering to fucking casuals with its relatively large content that I decided that anybody that spews this argument does not play the fucking genre.
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>>378984768
>why wouldn't you add it in?
Because it's time and money you could spend on refining the actual game instead. You know, shit that actually counts.
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>>378984768

I'm not going to deny that you're right, but its just infuriating how dismissive the audience you're justifying is.
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>>378983362
>NRS
>good fighting games
LOL
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>"Your record with Nash is 10 wins and 45 losses"

How do I turn this voice off
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>>378983362
NRS has a better product than Capcom. In terms of gameplay, I would still take SFV over Injustice 2 any day of the week.
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>>378985604
I feel like that voice exists to create more salt.
>>
If i wanted to start playing SFV online - how do i go about learning a character to not get utterly bodied.

I've loved fighters casually for decades, but never put in the time to get good. What do i do? I mostly play cammy, I can sorta play charge characters - but my execution isnt all that, probably only like 65% accuracy of inputing charge moves correct. Quartercirlce and all that jazz is fine tho.

Halp.
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>>378984507

Wasn't Skullgirls the perfect fighting game, with the lowest input lag and shit? But no one plays it because it have no mass appeal.
A game need mass appeal to have a solid release which will determine future support and a huge fanbase, so companies, sponsors and TOs will make everything possible to keep the game relevant in the tournament scene, and the gameplay has to be fun to keep people interested on it.
But you can only do so much with only mass appeal or competitiveness. Injustice 2 will sell more than 5 millions, but will probably be dead next year. SFV bombed on release, and people only play it because Capcom keep throwing money the tournament scene.
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>>378985806

Learn how to anti air.
Then learn how to tick throw and frametrap.
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>>378985760
>>378985604

>If you have 0 wins with a character, it doesn't state your W/L record, it just tells you to try your best

SFV-chan is cute, CUTE
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>>378985604
Damn, nigga, even I'm not that bad with Chunners.

Though you're right. That shit is annoying and just makes me feel bad.

>tfw been losing a ton of matches just because I'm mostly trying to learn how to land her SBK bnb in a real match
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>>378985806
Work on your execution by grinding out combos in training mode.

As for everything else, there's no other way than to play and learn from your mistakes. I know it's aggrevating, but no amount of training will prepare you for an actual match. Try to not take your losses too personal, watch replays and figure out what you could have done better.
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>>378976890

spin knuckle has a like 40 frame startup

literally just jab, this is coming from someone who dropped SFV before season 2 even came out
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>>378985806
Playing Cammy online is fine, she's pretty easy for beginners and if you're just starting out you should be able to find a lot of Rookie shitters to plow through. Learn how and when to block once you get to Super Bronze.
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>>378985604
Check the options menu, I'm like 90% sure there's an option for that.
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>>378974457
when will they add nostalgia costumes for the whole cast, give us Fighting street ryu with the red slippers, give us young bison give us SFIV juri so many easy ways to make money and they blow it
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>>378974457
Where are they?
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>>378987216
That looks fucking terrible
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>>378987216
Where are they?
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>>378987304
Fuck you, I want to fight for justice as Ryu.
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>>378985806
Don't listen to this faggot>>378986573
Just play with the character you like the most. Play with all of them and then get familiar with each botton press. Learn the specials move and then the combos and moves for anti air. You can then watch other people play with the same character to learn what do they do to win.
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>>378987528
He literally just said he plays Cammy the most you cock gobbling retard.
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>>378987304
>not being a big ass faggot
What are you, gay?
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>>378986573
but I am those rookie shitters :(

same stuff I heard before generally.

I just dont understand the flow of the fights, if that sounds correct?

Like i've primarily come from (semi high rated) world of warcraft pvp, and with that I know exactly how each match is going - what to be doing, what to expect - possible outcomes, knowing that i know none of this for street fighter (or fighters in general) just makes it far too daunting :/
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>>378985841
Making a marvel style game with ten characters just spells disaster
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>>378964898
I'm convinced SSFV won't be good until Woshige is off of battle director. I refuse to buy the until Woshige's waifu loving retard ass is out of the picture.
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>>378987636
yeh
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>>378987619
Whilst I play cammy most, i've played every character to some degree since street fighter 2. Some of the ones in 4 very little tho, like el fuerte and adon, ones i had zero interest in.

its just the going online and the knowledge requirement that fucks me right up.
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>>378987619
I may suck dick but at least I don't play Cammy.
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>>378977073
Juri rework made me drop the game entirely. She still has to put in extra effort for less damage.

Unless Super SFV makes her play like she did in 4, I'm not touching the game again
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>>378967027
>implying I paid

M8 I just cheat to get FM
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>>378987846
adding on to this, is eventhubs still a decent place to go to look for combos etc? or is that outta date?

>>378987919
man i started playing her when i was like 13 or something. im 28 now - that ass has taken me through too much time to drop now.

(tho i do really like birdie)
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>>378974457
Going to be released in a pack of other nostalgia costumes eventually.
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>>378987956
Just wait until Season 3. They'll probably give her a 5% damage output boost on all her moves along with a few other DLC characters so the tier list shifts around again.
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>SFV
>when Tekken 7 and KOF XIV exist
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>>378974637
Top:
Balrog, Guile, Ibuki, Zangief, Necalli

Bottom:
Alex, F.A.N.G, Ryu, Chun, Juri
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>>378987998
I main Cammy since a long time ago too, 28 too, I just don't want more people to use her.
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>C. Viper isn't canonically dead yet
>There's the slightest chance she could steal a slot from more deserving characters like she did in MvC3
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>>378988180
I DONT WANT MORE DAMAGE I WANT A FUN CHARACTER TO PLAY WHO'S NAME IS ALSO JURI HAN
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>>378977073
In Necro and Oro's defense. They both have cameos in the game already and the story for this game has basically just been setting up SF3.
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>>378988456
>canonically

Doesn't SFV take place before SFIV? The timeline for these games seems like a huge clusterfuck. Doesn't help that they release costumes for characters that are supposed to represent different points in time.
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I really really hope the rumor is true and SSFV improves the game's image, bringing in new players. It's been a PR nightmare up til this point and the game's reputation is still shit despite the game itself improving quite a lot from its launch status.

A shame too, considering I'm a Bison/Balrog/Vega and my Shadaloo boys are more fun to play than ever, complete with their own stages from SF2 reworked. I have a strong feeling they'll be absent from SFVI and that will kill my interest hard unless Juri, Guile, or Akuma are present.
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>>378988425
>>378987998
beta Cammy was funmember punch crush counter? member divekicks on neutral jump and jumpback? counterhit combos from standing fierce? knee bullet combos? ex divekick juggle into more ex divekick ? etc...
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>>378974637
Top: Balrog, Urien, Guile, Cammy, Gief.

Bottom: Nash, Ryu, Juri, F.A.N.G, Alex.
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>>378967647
>sagat
>sakura
>necro
>improved engine and animation

I hate you for making me hype
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>>378988456
>Juri main mad she was stuck in SFxT while Viper made it Marvel.
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>>378988971
The timeline is SF - Alpha - SFII - SFIV - SFV - SFIII.
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>>378988324
Everybody hates my my man, Alex :(

At least I'm trash enough in high bronze that tiers don't really matter
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>>378989032
>Gief is top tier
I'm so fucking tired of all these silver surfers who suck at fighting grapplers saying Gief is OP the second he isn't trash
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>>378989014
I did love doing the EX divekick into another EX divekick
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>>378989014
she had nipples back then too :'(
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>>378989264
Tell that to Nemo
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>>378989240
I like alex a lot, loved him in third strike. Im just shit with him tho :/
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>>378989327
The clit is gone too...
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>>378989327
Just put on the mod also with the breast physics for Chun.
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>>378989264
I'm Super Plat, Anon. Maybe I'm biased though because his match-up against Vega is so fucking frustrating for both players.
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>>378989327
>>378989289
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>>378975776
Birdie is a high mid at least, what are yo even talking about?
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>>378983372
That anon didn't mention the competitive scene anywhere in his post. Where did you get that from?
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>>378989426
>loving Alex in 3s
You don't have to pretend your a street fighter OG here. No one cares.
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>>378974637
>cammy that low

You sir, are small time

>top
Guile, Necalli, Balrog, Akuma, Ibuki, Cammy

>bottom
FANG, Ryu, Vega, Juri, Nash, Alex
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>>378989197
I never really played SFIII but I remember Guile wasn't in it. Was there a story reason for that? Or is Guile going to die at the end of SFV's story?
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>>378989603
Is that Poongko? It is a shame he pick Ryu during Evo though I like his Kolin now.
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>>378989879
They tried to create an entirely new roster for 3 but people hated it so they had to bring several veterans back. Guile's moveset was given to this brooding Frenchy with slight variation.
I actually liked Remy and hope he comes back someday.
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>>378989520
I think he's high mid-tier but not top 5 considering he's fucked against a decent dhalsim or guile
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>>378990141
It was actually supposed to be a whole new IP actually.
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>>378967739
"Super" I think will basically be a base+Season1&2 bundle
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>>378990351
Didn't know that. I understand that they thought it would attract more people but they underestimated how attached people were to the previous roster.
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Holy shit that leaker on /v/ may have been real.
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>>378990071
yeah, droped Cammy like almost all tourneyfags are doing
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>Got 2 wins vs PrBalrog
Feels so fucking good man
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>>378990747
who could blame them outside of Dudley and maybe Ibuki the cast of 3 is forgettable
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>>378972030
Gameplay style is too different.You'd either neuter them and lose what was interesting about them in the first place or they'd be ST Akuma tier against the SF5 cast.
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>>378990884
ExPLAIN
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>>378990747
Yeah, and Alex was supposed to be the "hero" in that game. but as stated here >>378990141 people didn't like that so capcom added ken and ryu to the roster and made it another street fighter.
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>>378991008
Are you sure it wasn't because of your shitty Mexican internet?
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>>378974637
>>378975019
>>378975308
>>378988324
>>378989032
Literally every one of you that replied seriously put fang in your bottom 5. Fuck you guys he was really fun when i played on launch.
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>>378991083
I wouldn't be so mad about them backing out on Alex being the hero, if it wasn't canon that he couldn't touch Ryu in their fight.
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>>378991016
Personally disagree. Urien, Yun and Yang are good and I liked the oddball characters they had like Necro.
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>>378991003
Why are they dropping Cammy all of a sudden? I dont think she got nerfed at all that i remember.

Sounds like overreaction nonsense cause Punk is winning with Karin.
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>>378991008
I can smell the online-only gimmicks from here, Juan
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>>378991153
He is most fun right now man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHtWyuHqjdU&t=1s
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>>378991003
I actually picked up Cammy after watching him play her. The speed and the crazy offensive enamored me.
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>>378991209
It's funny that despite Ryu technically being the protagonist he has little to do with the story of 3. Alex is functionally more important in it. It's the exact same with Rashid in sfv where Ryu existed only to beat Bison.
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>>378991485
I think my biggest dissapointment with 5s story is that Necalli just turned out to be some jobber who was just there for Ryu to get over the dark hado.
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>>378991153
Anon, I didn't say he wasn't fun, just that they don't know how to balance him, and as such he will probably be bottom five forever, unfortunately.
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>>378991609
I am very certain that Necalli was going to be the big bad of 5 but the writers were forced to drop him in favor of 5 being Bison's last hurrah and could not think of any real role for Necalli to play.
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>>378972046
AMEN BROTHER

AMEN.
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>>378991609
>>378991732
Bison better return in the next installment or I'm done with this series
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>>378967027
>pirating a fighting game
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>>378991732
I was sure he was going to be this games Akuma, it's the only reason I can think that he wasn't in at the start.
I thought for sure he would've been more important.
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>>378991408
Why would you upload a video of a match where the opponent puts down the controller halfway in? Also can I just say that taunting on stunned opponents is positively the lamest thing ever, especially so in SFV where every other time you have frame advantage ends in stun.
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>>378991864
I pirated Xrd, what are you gonna do about it!?
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>>378991008
>playing FANG
>winning with FANG
>Being Super Diamond with a level 70 FANG

Holy shit, are you a unicorn?
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>>378967321
>The game sat in my library unplayed because of lobbies being set to "Best of 3" and shit.
Stopped here. Nice to know you never even played.
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>>378967759
>I know Star Wars and I clapped when I saw it!
Fuck you, retard. Season 2 has been great so far because we got fun characters who were new and added something to the series.
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>>378991609
My boy Necalli gets punked by fucking FANG of all people in the story. It ain't fair.

I hope he becomes the big bad of SFV's Story 2 if that rumor is true.
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>>378974637
After S2.1

Balrog, Ibuki, Guile, Karin, Necalli top 5

bottom 5 is Juri, Nash, Ryu, Alex and F.A.N.G.

Honestly, the balance patch did very little.
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So do you believe in the leak that the next 3 characters in s2 are Abigail, Menat and Zeku?
I'm happy for Abigail, though I was personally hoping the last character would have been Garuda.
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This "BornFree" guy is a totally spineless virgin.
What a faggot lul.
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>>378992839
I agree that new is good, but it does not generate the same buzz as pandering to old stuff.
Also Capcom is basically asking for people to buy season passes for a bunch of characters no one knows anything about like how they play or what they look like so animosity is expected.
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>>378991732
>>378991968

I don't really understand his role in the story at all. Bison was all like "Yes Necalli is here this is perfect" when he sees him. Then according to his story Necalli is like a force of nature that is supposed to show up every 2000 years or some shit and eat Dhalsim, Ryu and some other character I forget, but in the main story NONE of this happens. Then Bison pulls his Saturday morning cartoon villain scheme with the moons and Necalli fucks off forever after fighting Ryu one last time. Bison didn't need Necalli at all, why did he pretend he was important? Why did Necalli just leave?
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>>378965005

I've been saying this for months.

SFV's launch basically poisoned the well, a relaunch with some new features/modes and classic characters would be enough to bring casuals back.
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>>378993429
>Also Capcom is basically asking for people to buy season passes for a bunch of characters no one knows anything about like how they play or what they look like so animosity is expected.
This right her is why I hate Capcom's current business model with sfv. It also hurt even more when KoF had all their dlc characters revealed and released within a month.
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>>378992364
salty bitch get taunted on lmao
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>>378991016
>Urien
>Elena
>Makoto
>Hugo
>Alex
>Yun
>Yang
>Q
>Gill
SFIII wasn't perfect by any means, but the cast was by no means forgettable.
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>>378993630
I actually forgot that Necalli was apparently part of Bisons plan, why would he need Necalli for any of that.
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>>378991609
>>378991732
>>378991860
>>378993630
A-at least Bison was pretty cool in this story.

Also, Ryu with the Power of the Void in SF6 when?
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>>378976895
>Urien when we have Zangief

Wut?
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>>378993905
Elena, Q, Gill, Yun, and Yang are all shit.
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>>378993981
I also forgot to add that at some point after all this Akuma just blows up Necalli or some shit, what was even the point of that character.
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>>378994286
>>378976895
>Ryu when we have Ken

Wut?
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>>378984768
You mean like MvC:I did, and we ended up with a shitty roster?
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>>378994390
>Vega when we have Juri

Wut?
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>>378966749
getting a new critical art is gonna be fucking stupid, they've all functionally been the same and if they're gonna do something ala yun/yang's super it'd make infinitely more sense to do what you suggested
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>>378991016
You're utterly delusional, unless you claim SFII also had a forgettable cast, in which case you just have memory problems.
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Our man Dan will be returning right? r-right?
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>Played Balrog in S1, got to plat
>S2 drops
>Now almost in Diamond and wondering how much my character is carrying me
Nerfs when
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>>378994610
>Ed when we have Bison

Wut?
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>>378993905
It's a shame the balance in 3 was as bad as it was. It still has the best presentation of any SF by far imo.

>>378994298
How are the twins shit? Chun's great but honestly they are more enjoyable China reps(Hong Kong, but whatever).
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Anyone else derank so they can grind the cpt challenges easier? went from plat to bronze and its a breeze.
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>>378977342
but they do
the only sf3 character you can really make this argument for is remy
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>>378994898
I eased off of Balrog after his buffs and fell back on Bison, I needed something new anyway. Frame-trapping the opponent until you win (which was basically S1 Balrog too) stops being exciting after a while, Bison has mind games to him. I'm also learning Vega on the side.
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>>378995053
Honestly Balrog just fits my playstyle. I was deciding between him, Urien and Ibuki in S1 (lol), but Balrog was the most aggressive of the bunch and I ended up sticking with him. I still have fun with a few other characters, but he's the only one I can play consistently without getting bored of the game.
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>>378994993
I'm confused. Do you mean they do play alike or don't?
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>>378995631
yes
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>>378995703
I see.
>>
if you guys remember the earliest report, capcom was saying that sf5 was originally planned to release in 2018, so this would fall in line with that
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>>378995849
i get that this was basically an early access game but holy shit this was LITERALLY an early access game
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>>378984364
Yes
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>The return of Crapcom for MvC DLC scams
>SFV getting updated for free but it will take so long that it doesn't matter unless they change the core gameplay somehow

No wonder so many people are jumping to Tekken 7 now. Capcom kills fighting games with their corporate Japanese Jew greed bullshit.
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>>378994298
>Elena
Get fucked. Don't disrespect my barefoot, chocolate Amazon waifu.
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>went in to work today
>found out that apparently the schedule had changed and that we had the day off
Welp, I feel stupid. So I guess I can play some more SFV then?

Also, realized that I could've gone to a local event (two actually) but can't so now I'm fucking pissed.
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>>378996491
>Amazon waifu.
She's Kenyan.
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>>378996627
I know. Should've said, "Amazonian," like I meant.

Also, I love Elena but:

>Kenya
>capoeira

Shit don't make sense.
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Vega may be shit right now and maybe for all of sfv's lifecycle but at least he still has never had a bad theme. Really happy the Taverns back.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=or6UK7HQ3uI
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>>378996881
>idiots say SFV has bad music
Plebs.
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>>378964898
jesus christ this better be an alpha 2 and not a super sf4.

i kow casuals can fall for hype, but if it still plays like sfv, than ive lost interest. BUT THEY SHOULD STILL HYPE IT UP!!!!!!!! Do'nt get me wrong, casuals are good, Capcom just has a shitty way of "appealing" to them
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>>378991609
>>378991732
Initially I thought Necalli's purpose was to trigger Evil Ryu and maybe eventually Oni. Given how those two are 'What If' scenarios and Necalli's apparent ties to Hado, I figured he would be an 'awakening' tool of sorts.
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>>378996983
It's the most consistently good thing in the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1kb6Lb8hOg
Juri's the only one I can think of with a pretty bad theme.
I don't Jurifags are going to recover from sfv for a long time.
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>>378965758
Tweaking? The entire gameplay needs a massive fucking overhaul
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>>378996983
LA
SHI
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>378997190
All Necalli served was help explain why sf3 Ryu is his strongest version because that's when he's no longer at risk of the Hado.
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>>378997661
So necalli teached ryu how to kick
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>>378989830
I was trying to agitate people
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>>378997774
yes.
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>>378965005

They need to trash SFV and start working on SFVI.
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>>378997661
So the true power of hado is a donkey kick, good to know.
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I dont get the spicy meme that is hating SFV

I played it casually with friends locally and thats about it because im not delusional enough to pretend I'll ever be good enough to make it out of pools at tournaments so the competitive aspect means nothing to me
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>>378997959
What else would it be. And the Dark Hado is punches which is why Akuma has the Raging Demon.
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>>378998094
I love how the raging demon is just punching someone in the head like 50 times.
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>>378996983
Yeah I don't get this meme. It's not flat out amazing but it does have a lot of great themes, and the best version of Gief's theme there ever was.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=107mmUTAYEc
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>>378998065
The bad launch burned a large amount of people, but yeah, it's mostly memery at this point. That and salty fans of obscure animu garbage trying to push their games by shitting on SFV.
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>>378998182
What I like about SFV's raging demon is that it shows for all these years Akuma has had the Raging Demon he's just been punching people that fast.
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As long as I don't have to buy it again I don't care what they do. Toss in more single player shit to make casuals stop their whining if you have to. Having said that people who play fighting games to fight ai are fucking dumb.
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>this DLC freemium bullshit was to keep any edition shit from happening again
>capcom suddenly goes: you know, how about we do it anyway

this is humor you cant make up
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>>378998434
The leak says it's a free update.
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>>378994950
>buying a CPT pass

wew fucking lad anon. It's almost 70% of the price I paid for the base game (when it was on sale) and you get fuck all for buying it.
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>>378998518
>"'''free"""
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>>378998434
There are people like you who will bitch no matter how they handle the rest of SFV's lifespan, it's already irredeemable in your eyes because you're a bandwagoner.
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>>378998518
Why are you even replying? You know he's just here to shitpost.
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>>378998065
On the average player level there's still a lot of stuff wrong with it: long loading times, horrible netcode etc. On high levels most pros complain about the lack of defensive options and the same-y gameplan of most characters. It's not unfixable (and I think vanilla SFV is a lot better than vanilla SF4), but there's a lot of work to do.
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>>378998270
He uses the power of a persons sins to punch them really fast.
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>>378998219
While I do love the jazziness of Giefs 4 theme. The 5 version is so damn majestic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnnbLMCZAXc
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>>378998612
It's irredeemable because I'm not an idiot. If being a bandwagoner makes me not an idiot, Im fine with it. They arent touching my money
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>>378997190

I thought he would just eat E. Ryu out of Ryu.
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>>378996881
>that two seconds of visible confusion as my opponent tries to hit me during a cage climb
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>>378996491
>Playing Elena in SF3
>Can stand midscreen and still hit people with my legs because she's like 8 feet tall and super flexible

Good times. Never played SFIV so I hope that carries over to SFV if they add her in.
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>>378998623
>Vanilla SF4
oh you mean TIGER TIGER TIGER: The Game
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>>378998736
I love how he had all those magic goo powers in the story mode but none of that is inorporated into his fighting style.
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>>378998715
Then go play another game and don't shit up threads for a game you're not interested in and know nothing about.
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>>378997661
>>378997774
>>378997959
I really hope they give Ryu something cool with the Power of the Void come SF6. Give him some kind of unique projectile or something.

>>378998270
>>378998669
But that's stupid.
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Whelp, how is USF2?
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>>378998914
Don't you mean Ken Fighter IV or Shoto Fighter IV?
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>>378998958
It being that stupid make me love it though, it also makes it make less sense that it doesn't work on Gen.
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>>378998958
How? It's just goes to show how much Akuma has surpassed the strength of any regular human.
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>>378999015

The best version of SF2. Not worth 40 dollars though. I'd say wait until it goes down in price
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>>378996838
Capoeira started with Brazil's large African slave population.
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>>378999053
I remember it being called turtle fighter 4.
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>>378999076
>It being that stupid make me love it though

>always thought the Raging Demon was Akuma opening up some metaphysical hell and unleashing upon the victim all of the evil and sins they have committed on others unto themselves
>nope, turns out he just punches the shit out of you a bunch of times lol

God, they really did kinda fuck up Akuma in this game.
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Do you want Street Fighter VI to take place in the past or in the future?
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>>378998946
If you dont want your game shit on, go to a website where you can have an echo chamber
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>>378999169
Well yeah, but even though it has its roots amongst West African slave dances and such, it still originated in Brazil. Also Kenya is in East Africa anyway.
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>>378999472

The past, because that's when Sagat was alive.
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>>378999405
Don't get me wrong I had always assumed it was some kind of supernatural attack, but actually seeing it without the shadow effects was too funny.
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>>378999472
I'd welcome a full-on reboot.

The Street Fighter universe is so convoluted and stupid. Better start again with a clean slate.
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>>378999405
He does do that, he just does it by punching you. Sort of like kenshiro fucks with your ki or some shit by punching you. Punching is the universal language, you could probably code by punching if you got a sick enough keyboard.
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>season 3 leaked
>STILL no Dan
FAAAAATHERRRR
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>>378999405
The Raging Demon has always had a bunch of punch sound effects to imply what SFV shows, and what is not impressive about a man who can punch that many times in about 2 seconds?
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>>378999472
Far future.

I want Grandpa Ryu and Milf Sakura.
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>>378999472
Set it in the future or just reboot it like >>378999635 said

Alternatively, just give me a new Darkstalkers.

>>378999636
You're right but they still kinda ruined the mystique of it imo
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>>378999680
Dan should just be a free character desu, or at least someone cheap to get with fight money
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>>378999846
>GILF Chun-Li
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>>378999550
You're not shitting on anything, you're just spouting mindless garbage without knowing why. By all means keep it up but don't get upset when people call out your retardation, especially when it's apparent you don't even know why you hate the game and have probably never played a fighter above low level in the first place.
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>>378999868
I would probably be more upset but what they show is basically what I always imagined anyway. I just pictured kenshiro punching really fast. I couldn't imagine those sound effect being anything else.
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>>379000031
>cryingcapcomfanashespendsanothertenbucksonaDLCcostume.png
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>>378966749
It's easier to put in new CAs than create a new V-Skill/V-Trigger for the entire cast.
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>>378999984
>Characters all cost 100k as the standard
>Dan shows up and costs 25K

That'd be pretty great actually. Also, add him in in between seasons with little to no fanfare.
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I hope that at the end of this games lifecycle we get somehting like omega mode.
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I really just want more ways to earn FM offline. Sometimes I want to casually grind without affecting my W/L record.
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>>379000031
That guy's definitely not worth your time. I don't bother discussing fighting games with people who don't play them.
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>>379000120
Not an argument.
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>>379000440
>samefagginghisownposttofeelbetterabouthischunlpurchase.jpg
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>>379000432
>story mode
>character stories
>two sets of trials
>demonstrations
>weekly missions
>survival
What more do you fucking want? Nobody cares about your W/L ratio anyway.
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>>379000031
As long as the Raging Demon keeps the killing blow sound effect I'll be happy. It's the most satisfying sound effect ever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNRSWwn5hOw
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>>378964898

and this is why I never buy any street fighter games.
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Why aren't we talking about Menat?
>voiced by Aoi Yuuki
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>>379000572
Actual fun things outside of Story/Character Story would be nice.
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>>378998683
Even though I liked 4's rock version more, the quieter, more calm-sounding version of Cammy's theme in 5 is good too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uToRtthAF3I

And Karin's theme is so fucking good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tE6uPOM4Zvk
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>>379000665
>read neither the tweet nor this thread
Just fucking kill yourself.
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>>379000760

shut up nerd
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>>378998736
That's what I was thought when I saw the cinematic trailer. Ryu got pushed to his limit, started going evil and then the transition to Necali's maw makes it look like he was waiting to devour the Hadou from his body.
https://youtu.be/ZBl3f6UkXkQ?t=132
I expected Ryu would have gotten fucked up after Necali took a bite out of him. Given how out of the way Ryu is in the story, he could have been bedridden and near death or some shit when he had his epiphany.
He could have struggled over the concept of whether or not the Dark Hadou was a part of him or just some inherit hostile force in Hadou. With his connection to Hadou severed, he had the time to figure shit out or whatever.

Instead he just hangs out at Karin's house for a day, suddenly going "hey I'm totally cool now" after years of uncertainty and turmoil.
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>>379000829
I mean it. You're too dumb to be allowed to live.

Now drink bleach.
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>>378968350
tekken's release back in 2015 was pretty mediocre
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>>379000760
>>379000968
Now, Anon. That's not nice.
Imagine if you mother heard what you are saying right now.
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>>379000519
You're a newfag, those posts are seconds apart. Everyone here just knows you're an idiot.
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>>379000845
Wow I'd never seen this particular trailer until now and you're right
The whole thing makes necalli and the darkhado seem way more important
It also reminded me that Nash is never allowed to win.
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>>379001170
She would probably agree and encourage you to get the fuck out.
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>>379000718
Smol Eliza is pretty cute. I know she's Rose's apprentice but I hope that doesn't make her a Rose clone.
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The leak was some fake shit made up by Alex "Scumbag" Valle.

The stuff about Abigail, Menat and Zeku is probably thue though. Except the last one might not be Zeku.
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>>379001312
>Nash
Talk about wasted potential. Bring one fo the few canonically dead characters and have him do nothing and kill himself again for nothing. His win quote against Guile has more emotion than any interaction they have in the story mode.
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>>378964898
>playing any street fighter after III
God the level of cancer these wannabe evo fags have is just embarrassing as fuck,play some actual fucking fighting games,KOF95,MoWs,SF3 (any),FF but for fucks sake stop fueling the cancer that has become the current iterations of fights like SFIV-V,GGxRD,blazeblue.
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>>379001539
>it's a turd striker post
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>>379001501
I would've rather had him kill Bison than Ryu honestly.
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>>379001539
Don't you have a Maximilian video to watch?
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>>379001539
I doubt you play any of the games you're advocating either often or at a relevant level.
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>>378969574
This is Capcom you are talking about.
"Free" is not in their vocabulary.
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>>379001630
>hurr durr i can't handle the truth the post
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>>378999472
I'd like for them to go ahead from 3, but on the condition they bring back 3's roster.... mostly. Also bring back a stylish MC like 3rd Strike's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnBzX8zVc5k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maDUke_f_Iw
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>>379001702
Explain AE 2012 then. Or SFV's characters.
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>>378987216
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVpMKoNyiGM
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>>379001731
>air parries your "truth"

what now, turd striker?
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>>379001731
It's just an opinion and a rather stupid one at that, too. You didn't even bother explaining your standpoint, which indicates the other poster may be right after all.
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>>379001702
Explain monhun DLC. Those games get like a year of free dlc.
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>>379001876
>He doesn't know about SFV lowering the difficulty in turn getting rid of any challange
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSgA_nK_w3A

HUE,fucking newfags,you guys get me everytime.
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>>379001780
They originally promised that most of the future content of SFV could be purchased with ingame money. In the end they release 80% costumes, all for real money.
Even the shit that can be bought with the shitty fight money is so expensive you have to grind out survival mode to be able to afford it.
And no, I am not gonna argue about "hurr you don't have enough FM?", you CANNOT buy all characters with FM. No matter how much you play, so no, characters are not free.
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>>379002070
This video is trash. The lack of defensive options in SFV is a serious problem, the lowered execution barrier was a huge step in the right direction. It lowers the skill floor and makes the game less intimidating for new players while keeping every other core fundamental in place, which is what the game should revolve around and not have execution take up so much attention. Former execution masters are just asshurt that they can no longer win solely by being the best at it.

FGC needs new players coming in to survive and for fighting games to grow. How do you think any newbie is going to react if you tell them that to git gud, they must first practice trepid shit like 1f links and FADC for weeks, maybe months, before moving on to other stuff since those execution barriers were basic to being able to play SFIV?
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>>379001664
>>379001501
The best outcome would have been a double KO, just like how that cinematic trailer alluded. >>379000845
Nash and Bison dealing simultaneous killing blows, and Ryu would have focused on Necali.
Either Gill or Rose's prophecy would have been wrong.

>>379001121
This. Tekken was received poorly, then had two years to playtest in arcades and add content to make itself worth a damn before it re-released itself on consoles.
SFV went straight to home platforms, devs and players fucking with things as they went along. It has had only one year so far.

>>379002070
Oh look, it's this dumbass video again.
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>>379002070
>no argument
>resorts to posting videos to make arguments for him
>muh canned HYPE moments
You probably still suffer in Bronze hell, you shitter. So it makes no sense why you would even care about stuff like skill ceiling when you're nowhere near reaching it.
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>>379001785
>PC mod
Fuck me, I can't afford a gaming PC, friend.

This actually looks very good too. Even has the MvC1 Ryu theme playing too.

>Hadoukens are green
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>>379002070
I would love to watch footage of you doing the combo trials.
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>>379001907
Monster Hunter is their cash cow.
They actually try to appease that playerbase instead of just viewing the series as a quick buck.
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>>379002265
I have bought the game on PS4 to get used to the DS4 for tournaments. I don't have PSN+, never played online and yet I got every character so far.

But I must be a creature of myth because nobody can get all the characters for free, right?
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>>379002450
Or capcom's really not that bad and it's a meme to hate on them so much. Many companies do worse shit and get a free pass. Injustice had a bunch of dlc characters on release and no one cared, capcom gets crucified for that shit.
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>>379002314
its not even just about MUH NEW PLAYERS - playing SF4 was a fucking pain in the ass for veterans, too. grinding out 1f links in training was such a fucking bullshit waste of time. i for one am glad that SFV did away with that shit.
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>>379002328
I just feel like Nash deserved to get the kill even if he died doing it
I never really got the rivalry between Ryu and Bison, when Ryu also has Akuma.
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>>379002534
>never played online and yet I got every character so far.
t-t-teach me your ways, senpai
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>>379000718
>>voiced by Aoi Yuuki
>Playing a non-Japanese character in JP
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>>379002534
So you spent 900k on characters alone?
I have been playing since day 1, with doing some survival I barely have 500k lifetime FM, and that's with me playing 400 hours of ranked.
Tell me creature of myth, how did you get all that FM?
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>>379002380
A shame...
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>>379002698
>>379002809
The usual stuff: story mode, character stories, survival, demonstrations, etc. Logged in to do the weeklies for 5k and whatever I could versus CPU. Capcom recently gave away 50k just for logging in as well.
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>>379002597
Starting roster of Injustice 2 vs SFV?
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>>379003008
I don't actually know, but it doesn't matter, capcom would and has been crucified for having dlc characters on release.
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>>379002924
Yeah, nah.
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>>379003008
Even if Capcom released a fighting game with 16 playable turds, it would beat capeshit every single time.
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>>379002685
It's really only Ryu runing into Bison by coincidence and being one of the few people strong enough to beat him.
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>>379003223
Believe what you want.
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>>379003251
It's not like every character in SFV plays the same because everyones gameplan is go ham.
Fucking face it, SFV was such a letdown that even NRS crap looks decent in comparison.
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>>379003297
it was that + Bison wanted a body that could harness the satsui no hado then combine it with psycho power and Ryu was the only one who fit the bill apparently.
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>>379003297
>>379003496
That actually makes a lot of sense.
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>>379003463
Nah, I'm actually enjoying SFV a great deal, but NRS will always be trash.

If you want to test your theory about going ham, feel free to leave your CFN.
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