Tekken tournaments to be played on the interior console version

What's the input lag on the PC version?

>>378945117
>100 ms of delay
Isnt that a lot?
I dont play fighting games but 100 ping is noticable in dota, and I assume that it would be even more noticable in a game like tekken

Many tournaments are sponsored by Sony so they use PS4s.

They still use the console version of SF5 even though its been proven time and time again the PC version is capable of lower input latency

interior like fish eggs

>>378945117
>>378947414
Use your brain for a second. What is cheaper and easier to setup?

>>378947728
PC

>>378947728
im pretty sure they all plug into ethernet cords the same way

>>378947750
>brainlet

So I shouldn't buy the PS4 version? But I was told
>PC
>fighting games

>>378948061

>PS4
>anything it does

I've been to a lot of tournaments. Mostly local ones. Most of them rely on people bringing their setup. There is no way in hell any of these dudes would lug their precious giant $2000 PC around. I wouldn't either desu. It is just easier to bring a PS4.

>>378948275

>theres no way in hell any of those dudes would lug their precious giant autistic fighting pads around. It is just easier to being a DS4

no, i don't think i like your logic

Tag 2 had even worse input lag and noone gave a shit at tournaments.

>>378948458

Can you fit your PC in your backpack? I can fit both my PS4 and fightstick in mine.

Also, I would be paranoid about someone finding my porn if I brought my PC. It probably wouldn't happen, but still.

>>378948587
No one played TT2 at tourney's at all

>>378948587
People only give a shit now because of SFV.
A big difference is with how fast moves are in comparison of the two games however, having high input delay on SF is a way bigger deal than on Tekken.

>>378948458
you clearly don't attend tournaments so how are you going to pretend to know shit about the logistics?

>have to wait 40-50 seconds for a match
Nah they'll go with PS4 in the end. PC would be the best, but there're too many setups too make sure that everything always works

>>378948607
Heard of a laptop? Far more mobile than your brick of a console

It's for hardware reasons. PC's are too varied and you can't guarantee a constant performance across systems

>>378948607
ever heard of a password before? or deleting your browser history?

>downloading and storing porn in the year of our lord and savior jesus christ 2017

no i refuse to participate in bad faith by believing anyone is actually this retarded

Tfw you want to become a professional PC gamer but can't because backpacks aren't big enough to carry your computer.

>>378946058
what lag

>>378947286
Ping is different but yes it is a lot

>>378945117
how the fuck do you measure input lag in decimal frames?

>>378945117
PS4 has that jukebox though with all the music from the old games.

being able to put battlecry on the online waiting shit >>>>>> 1 less frame of input lag

>>378949454
By measuring the input delay in milliseconds

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Really its because PS4 players are so use to eating shit out of their shit console that a little bit more wouldnt hurt.
If they actually gave a shit about the game they would play on the xbone or pc

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>>378945117
>input lag
Wait what?
So you are playing on lan on the same machine and still have 120 ms delay?

Is that a fucking joke? How is that even possible?

>>378949910
TVs are shit

>>378945117
fighting games are a joke of an esport compared to csgo, r6s and lol.

Its a self fulfilling prophecy
If you read that pc will be dead in 2 weeks and that makes you buy the inferior version, you are a retard, this is titanfall 2 all over again, please make it stop.

>>378945117
Because Sony pays them to do so.

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>>378950085
>r6s
>esport
I would ask Ubisoft employees to leave this thread.

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>>378948914
>gaming
>laptop

pick one. here's your (You)

>>378948914
>tfw a ps4 slim is the size and weigh less than a laptop

you'd need a gaming laptop to run T7 at max settings

>buying a gaming laptop


you are full of shit eitherway, anon

It has always been known that playing fighting games on PC is fun for awhile and better but you can have the best netcode, best graphics etc, your fighting game is nothing if u don't have people to play unless you are a casual who enjoys the CPU aspect of it. Console fightan is the way to go, no way around it

Are they going to use pc at the tourneys?

>>378951332
no because it is a hassle, literally better to hook up a console than a PC

I have a feeling Harada regrets releasing it on multiple platforms, I think he mightve been happier if it was on PS4 only.

>>378945117
>reportedly

>>378951030
It's funny Tekken fans saying this when T6/TT2 died very quickly on PS3

>>378952137
Well i'm not exactly about just Tekken.

>>378952137
>died very quickly

source

>>378951713
Only thing he should regret is putting Tag 2 on fucking Wii U but not PC

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>PC
>Fighting games
When will you pathetic cucks learn. Enjoy your non existent playerbase in 2 weeks.

>>378952484
Tekken was pretty much dead last gen, tourney's couldn't get enough players & it was selling poorly

Tekken's comeback is because Capcom fucked up with SFV

>>378952128
$0.02 has been deposited into your Sony® account.

>>378952597
See
>>378952137

>>378947286
it's 1/10th of a second

>>378948914
>>378949175
Ever heard of an original response?

>>378952659
$0.01 has been deposited into your Steam™ account 50% of your cut has been taken due to our modding and marketing policy.

>>378952637
still need source, speaking words is not giving factual sources, try again, if this seems unfair then you can stop replying

>>378952659
>Re
>por
>ted
>lee

>>378946058

None.

>>378953028
https://www.eventhubs.com/news/2013/may/10/tekken-tag-tournament-2-misses-sales-target-soul-calibur-5-doing-fine/

>>378953178
That's literally impossible.

>>378946058
For mine it's 12ms, though it will vary greatly depending on your hardware, including your mouse/keyboard/controller and screen (yes I'm including screen response time even though technically your screen won't actually affect input lag, it'll still affect how long it takes from your input to seeing the result)

>>378953235

None.

>>378951030
>plug controller into PC
>play with friend on local
?????

There is nothing a console can do that a PC can't do better

>>378953231
finally, thank you.

>>378947728
switch?
you can just portable it to the tournaments and start fighting
WOO HOO NINTENDO WINS AGAIN BABY

>>378953520
except not having a community of insufferable pcmr retard children.

>>378953520
>There is nothing a console can do that a PC can't do better
pricing

>inb4 muh 2nd hand PC is better than your brand new consoles

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>Playing fighting games on PC

>>378953520
I can link you to thousands of threads on the steam forums about ppl complaining and not being able to setup offline 2P in fighting games but i'm too lazy. It's a fact that playing on console is more convenient.

>>378953720
wtf i should go out and buy a ps4 pro and tekken 7 and online pass and another controller right now???

>>378953832
PC fighters are plug & play since like 2006 thanks to Xinput

>>378953713
A PC does do pricing better though, it lasts for two generations at least and has complete utility. Games are more frequently cheaper as well.

>>378953947
if u cared about fighting games you wouldve already. Poorfag

>>378953967
u shitters need to stop posting.
it had been proven again and again that with same price, you can't build a PC as strong as consoles of the same price

>>378953961
as if PC fighting games were more popular than on console, stop kidding yourself.

>>378953713
>>There is nothing a console can do that a PC can't do better
>pricing
How can one be *this* cucked?

>>378953967
delet this right now!! my GOLDEN WEEK ANIME SALE is better than any steam shit sale ever

>>378953713
You can build a PC with brand new parts that is more powerful than a console, for less money.

>>378953653
People who spout "PC MASTER RACE" are fucking faggots, but at least they're not as bad as people who defend an inferior platform. I own a PS4 and an XBone, and a PS3, 360, and Wii. IDORT MASTER RACE

>>378953832
And I can link you to thousands of threads on XBox Live/PSN forums where people can't even fucking play their games because the forced update is broken, or the dashboard keeps crashing, or whatever else. It's a fact that technical issues are not limited to any one platform.

>>378954038
The sad thing is that you're comparing a console to what a PC can do.
I'm not sure why people waste time shitposting when they could be playing their beloved fighting game on their favorite console.

>>378953713
>pricing
lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRuvMDxBGEw

and this is from 2015 - a full 2 fucking years ago

>>378945117
>interior
did you mean in-fer-ior?

>>378954129
Yes, keep spewing the same retorts that have nothing to do with the mentioned post.

>>378954408
>keep

that's 1 post tho and it doesn't make it wrong either. Try again

>>378954129
Damn man that's one hell of a strawman

>>378954719
samefag

>>378948607

>fight stick

how is it to have autism?

>>378954783
????

>>378953287
>For mine it's 12ms
How did you measure it?

>>378954638
You are absolutely deluded in your thoughts.
Have a great weekend.

>>378947750
Fucking moron.

>>378955669
Most hardware specs will tell you their input delay, all you need to do is add it up.

>>378950085
>esports are a joke

ftfy

>>378945117
>why do they do this shit
So scrubs have a random chance against pros.

It's not hardware's fault.

>>378955704
seems like I won, nice

1080p is only ps4 pro stuff so i got it on pc, i have normal ps4

how the fuck did the xbone have less input lag then the ps4 pro?

>>378949762
someone is butthurt as fuck. lol

>>378947887
>>378955838
If we're talking about budget PCs then it is just as expensive as consoles. Additionally, they could have high end Pcs for the main tournament while the lower rounds are running on midrange PCs. Come on you two, we're not just talking about Alienware overpriced bullshit.

>>378945117

Isn't the PS4 version sub 900p? Why didn't they just turn down the fucking effects

>>378948061
Well, would you rather have 2 frames less of input lag or a community that won't be dead in a month?

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>>378952597

>he expects and exceptionally well made fighting game to die in 2 weeks on PC even though the piece of garbage that is SFV is still surviving.

>>378956641
Sounds too risky though, when you can just get a console to do all thst and not worry about how a budget PC is going to run Tekken 7. Your plan is purposfully going out of its own way just to not use a more convinent console.

>>378956654
For the same reason they often fail to deliver on 60fps.

Pretty shit >>> playability.

They don't market games on playability

>>378952137
TT2 was shit compared to 1 though.
>>378957043
Considering GG is completely dead even though rev 2 just came out and BB has always been dead and kof and umvc3 which people wanted for years and years is already dead. There's absolutely zero reason to believe this will stay alive for longer than a couple of weeks.
SFV is only alive because of advertising, twitch, and PS4 crossplay

>>378945117
I would imagine because of Denuvo... Its easy to hook up PS4's that don't require an always online connection.

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>>378948061
Tekken 7 is the first amazing, proper and popular fighting game that the PC has gotten in history _ÀT THE SAME TIME AS CONSOLE_ (this is important, getting shit 2 years later means all who cared already bought it on console).

It's a huge success. Literally right now.

>>378958543
It remains to be seen if it's a huge success actually. The game is littered with problems on all platforms, mainly the fucking disconnecting shit. If the game still has anywhere above 10k players in a month, on PC, it'll definitely be a massive success.

>>378954103
>and the source is the author's ass

>>378953653
ps4 autists do the same thing, both are retarted tho

>>378957683
>Denuvo
Actually a good point but its not always online after first launch

>>378947286
Lemme put it this way, that's more lag than the current input lag on SFV.

It's a fucking huge amount.

>>378958884
There are only connection issues and input delay issues on consoles. The PC version is amazing.

>>378957467
>GG

Delayed & very nice even on Consoles

>BB

Same thing but they fucked PC extra hard by giving us old versions when the new ones were out WITH NO ONLINE PLAY

>KOF

lol

>umvc3

That game came out early 2011, are you really surprised it's dead on PC?

>>378959259
*niche

>>378953630
Really though if I was making an indie fighter I'd probably just make switch and PC versions for poverty play.

Ain't Tekken's input lag intentional because of online play? Can't they reduce the input lag on the PS4 only or that would break some law about favoritism?

Why the fuck would it have such a big input lag?

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>>378957467
GG and BB die in 2 weeks on consoles also.
At best they live 1 weak longer.

Meanwhile i had matches in SFIV for years.
And i find PC only players in V every 30 seconds to a minute.

PC fighters don't die Anime fighters do and on all systems.
Stop pretending its a PC only problem.

Would explain why I can't fucking block the low attacks in time.

Is that something that can be patched out?

>>378959201
I've had more than my fair share of dropped/lost connections in online matches on PC so far. tournaments and lobbies are really really bad about it. Also I can almost never sync up to watch a match, which is a pain.

>>378959562
SFV does have crossplay, but i wouldn't blame PCfags for not playing it, it's not very good

>>378954178
>for less money.
sure, show us your choice of parts here,
and we will see that your lies have been exposed.

just like this faggot here >>378954310
>second hand parts
>pirated OS
to compete with a brand new console
where a second hand consoles can be much cheaper than that price and still function at same

and remember that PS4 is cheaper right now.
so u really need to work harder to find the correct parts.

>>378959201
You're delusional.

>>378957467
None of those shit anime games sold more than 1.5k copies on Steam.

Tekken 7 already has 18.5k peak PLAYERS on PC. (50% more than SFV, Injustass, MKX ever had for peak players)

Sorry your shit anime games didn't quite make the cut on PC but Tekken is here to stay.

>>378945117
>120.5 ms of delay
This is nigh unplayable for games that require precise inputs.

>>378959040
Still though, I could imagine a scenario where denuvo hinders a livestream/tournament or something because it wants to connect to do its 'regular' check

>>378959879
How? It's factually true. Any big Tekken name who has tried PC and console is saying the same.

>>378959778
Might be your own ISP issues.

>>378959972
Tekken is literally fucking 3d anime you sack of shit. It's also literally no better or worse than fucking tekken 1-6

Can I use that as an excuse for my 15 FUCKING LOSSES IN A ROW FUCK.

>>378959607
Moves in tekken take a long time to come out, having 7 frames of input lag on a fighter where the faster moves have 10 frames of startup is not as big of an issue as SFV at launch where the fastest move had 3 frames startup added to the 8 frames of input lag

>>378948061
It was never about PC being bad for fighting games, but rather the input used. Playing a fighting game on a keyboard is pants on head retarded difficult since you need a D-Pad to input certain combos with. Plus its awkward as fuck using a keyboard for a side scrolling anything in general.

Then Microsoft got into the console business, and with it they developed a controller input standard with the XBox controller. Every Windows OS since Windows 7 comes with native controller support which greatly made it easier for devs to code for. Plus you can just plug an XBox controller in and it will be recognized automatically. Sony controllers can also be used but you have to download a driver manually, which honestly isn't that troublesome.

Fighters have been gaining a lot of popularity over the years thanks to Steam, but really whats stopped them from being big is because of what >>378958543 said. Naturally the most people are going to buy it on whoever releases it first. This wouldn't be such a big deal if console companies would allow for cross platform play, but they never do.

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>>378959814
As i stated if i set it to PC only i find matches every 30 seconds -1minute

And i only do this for experimental purposes 30% of my opponents are PS4.

>>378960093
>Tekken is literally fucking 3d anime

Hi nu-/v/

>>378959879
It's true

I got both PS4/PC versions since i have friends with different platforms

PS4 is a bit more sluggish & DC's often online

>>378960009
>the brain has this much input delay
Really makes you think

>>378945117
Sony pays them to use PS4 version.

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How successful has Tekken 7 been so far?

>>378960221
Well shit I guess I should get the pc version too. But I don't know if it'll perform well because of my processor.

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>>378959972
Dont be such a meany.
I admit the numbers are not impressive but its not as low as1.5k.
Most BB games sell up to 100k copies.
Althou the last one kidney sold only 30k because of dub fags.

>>378960161
Try to deny it retard
>anime fighting
>monsters
>unrealistic shit
>angels and demons

>>378960306
Most successful pc recent fighter

>>378960327
Rev should have been an upgrade DLC to sign, it's lucky to have any players

>>378960352
Okay then, literally every fighting game ever is a anime fighter including:
Injustice
MKX
Street Fighter
Virtual Fighter

Those all apply to your stupid idea of what anime fighters are.

>>378960306
fairly successful. It's not breaking records or we would have heard so but I've seen a fair amount of people playing it across various communities on PS4, and even my friends on steam.

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>>378960327

Fuck I just finished playing but I want to play again.

>>378960519
It also has an overwhelmingly Japanese aesthetic and the Japanese are the strongest and best in it and it Japanese history and mythology.

>>378960519
Injustice was delayed on PC by a year & MKX port was horrible & the DLC was delayed & at first announced as fucking canned

They are making the same mistake with Injustice 2, going to release it in 6 months on PC & wonder why it sells bad

>>378960306
It has 50% more players than any other PC fighting game ever released.

>>378960352
Anime is determined by artstyle, character design and fighting engine.

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>>378945117
>>378946058

Id say the PC version would have about 9-10

People need to remember how these things are built and what they are built for. The xbox has alot of bloat but it was developed to use DirectX which is the biggest driving force behind Unreal 4 (it does have support for alot of other things)

PS4 needs to emulate its calls to the DirectX library and alot of the gimmicks unreal 4 uses.
Id imagine they are super lazy with the port due to everything being 86x architecture so they Xbox will always have the advantage in the case.

>But Anon why does the PC have a worse input lag?

No fucking clue, it has to do with the bloated windows 10 OS, where Xbox uses a less bloated Windows 10 shell.

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I've decided to learn this game. What's a good resource for tutorials and shit. Looking for something akin to Dustloop but for Tekken.

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>>378951556
Thats factually wrong.

You can build a form Factor PC with a 1070 that could blow out any console and keep the size and portability.

PS4 kiddies go home

>>378961124
There aren't a lot, and many mechanics have been altered slightly or are amalgamations of things from tag 2 and revolution. So you might be out of luck for a few weeks until the existing jap stuff is translated.

Till then I would recommend just learning a few 10 hits for a character you enjoy, and seeing which one seems the most adaptable.

>>378961120
>But Anon why does the PC have a worse input lag?
It doesn't.

>>378961120
>When redditors try to sound knowledgeable

Please just stop.

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>>378945117
This makes me not even want to get into the game because I was hoping to travel to local tournaments and meet new friends while getting better at the game. But if the game is flawed on console then I don't even want to bother ;_;

What should I do bros?

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>>378961346
>>378961120

Just watched some PC gameplay, i retract my statement.

Its good on PC

>>378961391
You get PC version and just play locals on whatever the person hosting has. Just like every fighting game ever.

>>378961270
I understand. But even still, there's gotta be a go-to site for Tekken stuff. Even if it's out of date, I just want to know where to look.

If it wouldn't die in God damn 2 weeks I would gladly buy it on PC since I don't want to pay more for faggot ass PS+

>>378959848
You didn't even watch the video. It said the list of parts was in the description.

Its so obvious you're desperate to be right that you'll disregard anything and everything and continue to use goal post moving excuses.

>>378961564
You can still get a game of USF4 at pretty much any time on PC. I think it still has like 200+ people most of the time.

It's not a battlefield game, you need 1 other person not 63.

>>378948275
Someone's apparently never heard of dreamhack.

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>>378961120
You can get PC's to have stupidly low input lag, like 4 frames & on Linux you can get that even lower

Of course 99% of devs do not care about input lag & their engines are poorly optimized for latency
Rockstar is the worse when it comes to this

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Xbone has less input delay since it's the worst graphically. 720p, no AA, no DoF, lower texture sampling, less effects on hits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-0o1TUPLpE&t=609s

>>378961780
>>>378961564 (You)
>You can still get a game of USF4 at pretty much any time on PC. I think it still has like 200+ people most of the time.
>It's not a battlefield game, you need 1 other person not 63.
And then filter that down to people actually playing online looking for a match and not training or playing with friends. Also filter out anyone not in the US and you're probably left with 50 people out of those 200

>>378961391
Its not as big of an issue as everyone is making it out to be

>obvious console shills scared of PC having a fighting community

>>378962827
PC won't ever have a fighting community. They should have just added crossplay and then people on PC could have bought it without any regarts. But now I have to buy it on PS4 if I actually want to play it past this month.

>>378961124
Tekken Zaibatsu

>>378947286
Look man. People play these shit games online. We already know Tekken is too casual to even matter in a comp perspective

>>378945117
Because video game tournaments tend to be indoors.

>>378947414
Yeah that may be true about pc, but it's easier to create the exact same standard for all players with a console

>Tekken is trash
More shocking news at 11!

>>378965792
hence why it's the best selling fighting game series of all time
get outta here honkey

>Tekken faggots feeling themselves thinking they've overthrown Street Fighter because of muh peak hours and sales.
Literally flavor of the month game and will be dead after EVO, screencap this shit. It will be irrelevant just like GG. It's another game people will latch on to while talking shit about Street Fighter. SFV will continue being the premium fighting game.

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>>378946058
>input lag on the PC

>>378945117

Make it standard and avoid modding

Whats a good fighting stick for the PS4? I like to play IJ2 drunk online and probably this too. I don't need anything fancy.

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Right now all the top players in korea are playing on PC. If they go to tournaments and feel lag playing on the PS4, they will insist on switching over to the PC.

>>378945117

>SEVEN FUCKIN FRAMES of input lag

I do not believe this for a second

>>378947286
yup, ideally you want something like 15-25ms delay

>>378945117
Why do you even care, mustardcuck? In 2 weeks time you'll have already dropped Tekken like everyone else on PC because you'll have realized that fighting games actually require skill and you have no one to blame but yourself for losing, unlike your preferred genre of choice, assfaggots

>>378966007
So it's the fighting game equivalent of CoD? Trash indeed.

>>378966069
Tekken 7 has already topped SFV's all time peak on steam.

>>378961230
You'd have to build several of them though.

>>378966391
well if you wanna go buy review scores instead then be my guest :^)

>>378966391
That's not SFV, my guy.

>>378966069
It's okay anon, the first step is admitting that you've been left behind too.

>>378966440
Doesn't matter. Prize pots and tournament entrants for majors dictate the scene of a game. A fighting game doesn't need to be good or bad; it only requires to have influential people behind it. Tekken can have 20K or more players but it will be dead after EVO.

ITT: people who don't compete and think everyone bringing PC setups conplete with mouse
and keyboard, all with varying performance and much larger concerns for cheating is somehow not a shitty idea

Yeah I'm sure you wanna wrap your whole setup every fucking week for a local

>>378966687
but you just said it will be dead in a month while SFV """""continues to be the premium fighting game""""" even though Tekken 7 has already beaten it on day one
that's kind of embarrassing

>>378966920
>Thinking a bunch of bandwagoners and day 1 hype will be enough to overthrow SFV
I don't see those tournament entrants for Tekken 7 even beating Guilty Gear. That's kind of embarrassing.

>>378967102
but it already did overthrow SFV
day one
all time peak beaten
boom

>>378967479
Are you dumb? Learn to read namcuck. Your meme game won't hold those numbers for long; because America's FGC is deeply influenced by Street Fighter and Capcom in general. Everyone will just flock back to SFV when they're done mashing buttons.and realizing they can't be competent with 3D fighters.

>>378966391
CoD is not a bad game. I really hate to bring it to you.

>>378966791
>ITT: people who don't compete and think everyone bringing PC setups conplete with mouse
>and keyboard, all with varying performance and much larger concerns for cheating is somehow not a shitty idea
I think it's time to take a break Mr Not a new IP.

>>378961362
>When anon has nothing valuable to say, so he brings up reddit for no reason

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>>378966223
halp