Holy shit

Literally what is the point of your thread

Sony and Microsoft also have worthwhile features, and a matured ecosystem from actually caring to put time and effort into online 10 years ago.


For $20 a year on Nintendo I get to use my phone to do the same things I already do for free, and also get the benefit of having ZERO options of backing up save files.

>>378931776
Sony charge 60$ a year not a month.

>voice chat restricted to a phone app
>sales restricted to subscribers only
Not really worth it unless you have friends to play multiplayer with

File: switchvoicechat.png (207KB, 1197x634px) Image search: [Google]

207KB, 1197x634px

>>378932261
Yeah, it just seems to invite unnecessary complication.

File: Emoji_Icon_-_Thinking_grande.png (264KB, 574x600px) Image search: [Google]

264KB, 574x600px

>>378931776
you forgot the fact that Nintendo has ZERO FUCKING GAMES that are worth even buying this for.

>>378932306
Please tell me all those wires aren't required just to chat online. They have a wireless option, right?

>>378932372
Yeah man!

>>378932372
and an abysmal selection of worthwhile online, let alone doing it right for those games

>>378932372
Splatoon

Smash

Mk8

>>378932382
I assume you can use your EarPods to voice chat; the audio of the game just won't come through over them.
I imagine you can just make the TV loud enough that it works out.

File: 97521a9bc80544a4d3c22f4b2a332acd.jpg (50KB, 640x464px) Image search: [Google]

50KB, 640x464px

>another Nintendo marketer thread

>"It's okay when Nintendo does it!"

>>378932491
>splatoon
not even out yet and it will die just like the original
>smash
there isnt a switch smash
>mk8
kek, wasting $20 a month on a racer.

>>378931776
>sony drones not complaining about everything
It's hilarious to see people trying to false flag on reddit when you can see their post history

someone explain to me how online is free on PC but not on console. serious question.

as far as I understand, Ninty, Sony and Xbox use the money to maintain their online servers, but what about PC? who pays for them?

>>378932642
>It's hilarious to see people trying to false flag on reddit
You have to go back.

>>378931776
criticism comes from love, anon. don't downplay it when a company you love starts acting shitty, treat them just as harshly as sony and microsoft.

remember nintendo went from free dlc in their games to the dlc costing more than the game in just one year. a low price on paid online now means jack shit.

>>378931776
Its $60 a year..also it is a slippery slope. Start with $20 and gradually raise it..honestly i dont care since i only have a ds but people are right to be upset.

>Sony and Microsoft charge you like 60 fucking bucks for only a month of online
Are you retarded? Its 60 for a year

>>378931776
>Sony and Microsoft charge you like 60 fucking bucks for only a month of online.
How come no one ever calls out toddlers for spreading misinformation?

>>378932672
Depends on the company. Valve, Blizzard, and MMOs have their own servers for their games. Others just let people create servers through P2P or dedicated server programs.

File: nintendoonlineasusual.jpg (62KB, 1200x675px) Image search: [Google]

62KB, 1200x675px

Because if people pay for something, they expect it to work.

>>378932672
Valve uses the money Steam prints to fund their online services which are often used by third parties, some developers pay for their own servers or have their own subscription fees, and sometimes the player is just given the server software to run on their own computers.

File: Nintendo Switch voice chat.png (113KB, 900x485px) Image search: [Google]

113KB, 900x485px

>>378931776
>defending paying for online ever
Kill yourself.

also
>having to use smartphone for voice chat
>having to use smartphone for matchmaking
>having to use pic related for voice communication
>no web browser
Really really kill yourself drone.

>>378931776
>opening your ass for everyone to fuck
kys slut

File: 1454557672754.jpg (7KB, 261x199px) Image search: [Google]

7KB, 261x199px

>its another nintendo reassurance commercial

>>378931776
A) its 60$ a year retard

B) that being said, Sonyfriends and xbox believe that cause its more expensive they are getting a "better" service when PS+ still the same shit it was since PS3 era and the "60$" gets padded with indies and games no body plays.

>>378932306
Playing devils advocate and as retarded as the idea of using a phone is. Nintendo is kinda onto something here.

1) Voice Chat is a really niche feature actually. the open one is mostly kids or dude bros and among friends shit like Skype is more used and better
2) having a 3rd party software managing VC, means Nintendo don't have to "save up" memory and bandwidth in the game itself for a feature that people at best "Maybe" will use.

3) that pic configuration the fucking ad says is only optional. not the default "how does it works" way

>>378931776

They couldn't charge any more for it, because everyone knows Nintendo's online is bare bones and often unreliable.

>>378932957
>Because if people pay for something, they expect it to work.
yeah, cause I love my PS+ fucking dying here and there or their whole network being weak as fucking any retard with 100$ can hire a DDoS canon for the lolz. PS+ dies on its own like twice a month in a healthy month

File: 1443325680529.jpg (67KB, 1280x720px) Image search: [Google]

67KB, 1280x720px

>>378933170
>They couldn't charge any more for it, because everyone knows Nintendo's online is bare bones and often unreliable.
>you only see this being said on neofag and Dualshockers

>>378931776
>tfw have to wait until 2018

feels bad

>>378933170
Pretty much. They make you pay and then they don't even provide public voice chat, kek

>>378933069
>i got no money
>using a phone is hard
>console web browsing

This is a Sony board. Get out.

File: fff.jpg (75KB, 737x758px) Image search: [Google]

75KB, 737x758px

>nintendo fans have no choice but to defend paid online

It's come full circle

File: 02_tekkenerror01.jpg (214KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

214KB, 1920x1080px

>>378932957
It's okay when Sony does it! It's okay when PSN goes down for days at a time!

>>378931776
Paying more than 0 dollars for online is absolutely unacceptable

>>378933149
>means Nintendo don't have to "save up" memory and bandwidth in the game itself
They still have to use bandwidth and reserve server memory for voice chat. The only thing they're "saving" is the Switch's hardware.

>>378933318
Well yeah, because you pay for it, so you know that they have money they are using to fix it while it's down.

>>378933298
If I have to get bitten. I will pick the lesser evil then,

>it's an American says "holy shit" post

>>378933149
>among friends shit like Skype is more used and better
So I'm just supposed to keep a PC near my console?

>>378931776
>seriously, this is so cheap
And featureless which is why they plan to nickel and dime you by selling them back to you like that voip accessory for splatoon.

Is there a legitimate reason that they charge you to play online on a console?

>>378933149
Voice chat is not that resource intensive. The DS had games with voice chat more than 10 years ago and that thing had a paltry 4 megabytes of RAM and was limited to an already obsolete Wi-Fi revision.

>>378933392
Voice chat is a gimmick. they are saving the necessary time and expanse from implementing a useless feature.

>>378933392
>They still have to use bandwidth and reserve server memory for voice chat.
that can be used on a separate server and shit. not on the one in charge of the game and the reaction.

>>378933459
what happened to
>muh wireless BT headset
shit??

>>378933505
As much people "complain about the lack of VC in Nintendo games" again, its either a shit fest of kids and dude bros, or if you really want to talk with friend there are already several options that work even better than the built in offerings

>>378932620
>wasting $20 a month on a racer
it's $20 a year retard.

File: 10101.jpg (36KB, 500x333px) Image search: [Google]

36KB, 500x333px

>>378931776

How much is PC online?

I'll wait ;)

File: IMG_1087.png (222KB, 500x312px) Image search: [Google]

222KB, 500x312px

>>378931776
>>378931986
>>378932261
>>378932456
>>378932491
>>378932957
>>378933228
>>378933273
>paying to access online multiplayer
>ever

>>378933505
I can't remember a single DS game that actually let you voice chat during gameplay, just in the waiting lobby.

>>378933657
>How much is PC online?
>I'll wait ;)
whatever you pay your parent pay to the ISP

>>378932491

Ports from the Wii U?

>>378933584
Its still a server they have to pay for and a separate server is going to be more expensive especially if that server is just going to be use for, as you said, a niche feature.

>>378933559
You don't know what a gimmick is.

>>378933720
Tony Hawk's Downhill Jam had in game voice chat.

>>378933657
Are you retarded? Do you think that your internet and console online connectivity is separate?

>>378933751
>>378933835

You pay twice for the privilege cuck ;)

>>378933774
>You don't know what a gimmick is.
>"a trick or device intended to attract attention, publicity, or business."
>why does Nintendo dont have Voice Chat REEEEEE, I need to tell people I dont know how I fucked their mothers!!!!
kids

>>378933882
Are you retarded?

>>378933904
Ask yourself, is voice chat used to attract attention, or are you just retarded?

>>378932261
>p-people care about voice chat you guys!
/v/ proving once again that they never actually play games.

>>378934001
>the point
>your head

>>378933882
Sadly Ill have to, S and M opened the Pandora's Box of Paywall and Nintendo is a company, not a charity so they will get some $$ too.
at least they went for a lesser jew route


>>378933982
>Ask yourself, is voice chat used to attract attention, or are you just retarded?
>unless you are a pro, its for attention of underage and dude bros to scream profanities to random people to overcome their personal insecurities
^ this is the answer I gave to myself

File: birdie-sfa-dhalslam.gif (47KB, 333x199px) Image search: [Google]

47KB, 333x199px

>>378931776
It has been free until now.
There is no reason to charge for it on any system.

Its a proper ballache that I could live without but here it is.

>>378933403
>so you know that they have money they are using to fix it while it's down.
LMAO

>>378934065
That's not what attract attention meant, retard.
>"a trick or device intended to attract attention, publicity, or business."
lrn2read

>>378934079

Is there a real reason to charge for online?

File: IMG_0608.jpg (48KB, 369x364px) Image search: [Google]

48KB, 369x364px

>>378931776
>Microsoft and Sony cost 60 bucks for one month
>go to PlayStation store
>1 year subscription of PlayStation Plus: $60
(You)

To help them pay for the servers they use. Thats my guess, really i have no idea.

The price is actually great compared to the competition. What's not great is this fucking shit-
>>378932306
If you can't offer at least an equivalent experience to your competitors then what's the point of putting a price on it?

>>378932508
>I imagine you can just make the TV loud enough that it works out.
Have you never experienced this yourself? Now days, random chats in game are far more rare but back when the 360 and PS3 were in their heyday, there was always, without fail, one asshole who did this and it caused an echo effect for everyone else. Thankfully, you can just mute them so it was only ever a mild irritation. Now, what if this was your only solution? What if you have a party of three or four? It's going to be unbearable feedback out the ass. This whole thing is Nintendo's most inelegant solution to anything they have ever done. This beats the uncomfortable Virtual Boy.

best answer the internet provided me

>Several reasons:

>By forcing you to use a subscription, they invisibly motivate you to play often, thus populating the servers with people, which then further attracts more and more people. Multiplayer games die off when the number of active players drops below certain number, because it becomes difficult at times to jump into the game (no-one online).

>Furthermore, consoles are generally sold at a loss for the manufacturer, and the loss is made for in both higher price of games and in extra services like online access.

>The console manufacturer also bears certain connectivity costs (they must guarantee that things will work smoothly to game producers), so these costs are validly charged for in the subscription.

>And finally, since not everyone is willing to pay two subscriptions for essentially the same type of service, this may lead to parents not buy a second, competing console (which would also need subscription), thus cementing the console's dominance over the household.


TL;DR: Jews and Playing incentives

>>378931776
A month? What?

ehhh Ninty probably just realized that they can charge any lower amount than Microsoft and Sony and get away with it scotfree because
>b-b-b-b-but it's c-cheaper! !!!!

if it genuinely increases the quality of their online play then I'm all for it. Smash 4 was awful

>>378934164
something has changed in there business that requires additional revenue. Could be anything from increased infrastructure or human resources

>>378934164
Jewry. Anything else is an excuse to get more money out of you.

File: -.png (221KB, 446x325px) Image search: [Google]

221KB, 446x325px

>please pay us a tidy sum for no net benefit on your side whatsoever
>but we might let you play some games if we decide you deserve it
>no, we don't have a single advantage over just emulating all of our library on the PC, especially with netplay and online being implemented in most, if not all, emulators
>you just have to believe in us that we're gonna give a better service

File: 1460151164740.gif (1001KB, 640x480px) Image search: [Google]

1001KB, 640x480px

>>378933925

>cuck pays for nintendo online and internet

are you?

$20/year is just the introductory price while they have barely any games that even have online functions

It'll be just as expensive as the other guys by the end of the generation

>>378933202
PS+ has had several godawful moments but going down twice a month is an exaggeration. Now, if you wanted to talk about their faulty ass party chat then that's a different story. At the very least though, PS4 does have a party chat which works most of the time. Switch has a smartphone app that requires cables out the ass. It barely works as a handheld since all the cables are at least hanging off of you but running it across the floor when it's hooked up to the TV is just so fucking stupid.

>>378934164
Because Microsoft and now Sony have shown people are willing to pay for it. You always charge what people are willing to pay and only charge less (usually through special discounts) to get people who are on the fence.

how shit is your life you can't afford 20 dollars a year

File: 1475301113603.jpg (406KB, 2193x2617px) Image search: [Google]

406KB, 2193x2617px

>paying to use online multiplayer
>paying for mods
>paying for games
>paying for anime
>paying for anything

>>378934592
what about paying for manga? is that ok?

File: 1366308969463.jpg (141KB, 601x583px) Image search: [Google]

141KB, 601x583px

>>378934582

>B-BUT YOU'RE JUST POOR AND CAN'T PAY LOL

I have standards.

>>378932261

>It's cheaper if you pay them

>>378932582
This feels more like a false flagger trying to bait "it's okay when Nintendo does it" replies.

get ready for this to be in the upcoming Nintendo hypocrites collage

File: 1305037992281.png (413KB, 583x578px) Image search: [Google]

413KB, 583x578px

>you now have to pay for something that was always free
>call it out on its bullshit
>LMAO YOU'RE JUST A POORFAG LMAO NINTENDO CAN DO NO WRONG, SONY CAN DO NO WRONG, YOU'RE JUST A POORFAG LMAOOOOO

Could you guys imagine if steam sales were locked to STEAM SUBSCRIBERS

>>378934582
Send me 20$ a year.
>no I won't
How shit is your life that you can't afford 20 dollars a year?

It's not about the money, it's about the principle of not paying for something that should be free.

>>378931776
>I can't comprehend how people can get angry about the Nintendo Switch having paid online
It's easy when you realize that it demands you use another device to do all the online functionality.

By 2019 it'll be $40 and by 2020 it'll be $60. The only reason they're doing paid online is because investors asked them why they aren't taking advantage of this essentially free revenue stream that Sony and Microsoft are taking advantage of.

In 2018 when paid online launches for only $20 a year and everyone signs up and Nintendo reports their earnings from this service to investors, you can guarantee there will be that one guy who says "that's great, but comparable services are charging $60!"

Any amount is too much to use your own internet connection. It's a slippery slope. Doesn't matter if you're a millionaire, even a rich guy isn't wiping his ass with a $20 bill just because he can "afford" to. Paid online is a scam.

>>378934428
Or maybe they just do it because its literally free money and everybody else does it.

I'm giving Nintendo shit for it but at the same time they would be retarded to ignore this stream of money.

>>378934164
The official story is shit like maintenance and server upkeep, and to help restore service quickly when something goes wrong. In reality though, Sony's not doing anything different now than what they were doing with the PS3. Yeah, there's party chat and share play, which are nice, but you don't need $60 a year to keep a server working unless you have rats living in the computers.

Thankfully, they at least sweeten the deal with some "free" games each month but it's still bullshit no matter how you look at it.

>>378934582
Console users really shouldn't play that card.

Yeah I can't wait to pay $20 just to play only Splatoon 2.

>>378934065
You don't have to. Just don't play online, it's that simple.

>>378932620
>it will die just like the original
m8

>>378931776
The fact that they're doing this retarded chain link for voice chatting is a bit much to charge for the online, but now that they're also allowing a Netflix-esque library for Virtual Console, I feel like it's going to be decent enough.

>inb4 "renting" roms

>>378934582
I'm just against it on a moral level. If Nintendo can't provide the bare minimum for an online network then why should I bother paying for it? Might as well buy a car that's missing a wheel. It's a terrible shame too because if they kept it free then that would have been a strong selling point. Now they've shot themselves in the foot and their dick got in the way too.

>>378934582
I can afford it, but I'm not paying $20 to use my phone to handle all the shit my console can't.

That's retarded. That's charging me to go to extra effort with extra hardware I have to provide to do shit that the system should do itself

File: images.png (12KB, 215x234px) Image search: [Google]

12KB, 215x234px

>>378932491
>two ports and a game that isn't even confirmed to be coming out on the Switch

>>378933664
>posting from your phone
>ever

>>378931776
>Sony and Microsoft charge you like 60 fucking bucks for only a month of online.
It's weird to just lie about these things.

>>378934653
No.

>>378934841
It's a shame too because if there's one game I'd really like to play online, that's it. ARMS seems cool too but it's not a big enough deal. If Nintendo doesn't have anything else up their sleeves with their network service then it's going to be a disaster oh wait Nintendo fans will literally eat shit at this point. Never mind.

>>378931986
>Sony and Microsoft also have worthwhile features
Microsoft offer some pretty decent games, but Sony hasn't had anything fucking worthwhile since Rocket League last year.

>>378935052
>That's charging me to go to extra effort with extra hardware I have to provide to do shit that the system should do itself
I've been trying to find the right words to put it in and I'd say this is it.

>MonHun multiplayer locked behind a paywall
Nintendo can fuck right off

>>378932620
>not even out yet and it will die just like the original
So, you're saying it'll last for the span of every the console? Fantastic!

>>378935068
>Splatoon
>A port
So do you say every sequel is just a port?

>>378935293

Splatoon is essentially the Call of Duty of the wiiU. It has absolutely no focus on the singleplayer, and exists to be a multiplayer playpen for children untilt he next game comes out. Making essentially a multiplayer only game in this day and age is unforgivable.

>>378935357
You say that as if the original came out last year. Also, they're heavily advertising the fact there is a big single player campaign. Your last point is just retarded.

>>378931776
>the shit other people eat is SO much nastier, this shit is just fine in comparison!
Fellate a shotgun.

>>378935196
Sony gives good and almost recent games maybe once or twice a year, the catch is half of those games will only be for PS3. MS will give decent games more often but the catch there is that the games are half a decade old. I got a few months of PSN+ for free recently and the best games I got from it were both PS3 games.

>>378935467

>Also, they're heavily advertising the fact there is a big single player campaign.
I'll take things that'll never happen for 500.

>>378935357
I disagree. While the focus is clearly on the multiplayer, I feel like they did a pretty damn good job on the single player. It was a great cross between third person shooter and platforming, and they pulled it off well. I'll be getting Splatoon 2 when it and the Switch are cheap as fuck just so I can play the single player.

File: 9879414732.png (145KB, 304x304px) Image search: [Google]

145KB, 304x304px

>>378935556

>I feel like they did a pretty damn good job on the single player.
Then I'm afraid your standards are so low that they're hitting dinosaur bones.

>mfw this "shooter" is so disgustingly casual that it can be beaten using dual sticks

File: dog.jpg (90KB, 630x472px) Image search: [Google]

90KB, 630x472px

Not even baiting here, what are the benefits of this service? I remember reading you would get to play nes/snes games but I can just emulate so that doesn't really matter. Is this something that will basically be required to actually play games or a dumb service only fanboys will get? I don't have a switch currently but I've been interested in getting one which is why I'm curious.

>>378935663
Go be autistic somewhere else

>>378935779
>Is this something that will basically be required to actually play games
yes

>Pokemon goes to the Switch
>you have to pay 20 bucks to complete the Dex
Fuck this.

>>378935779
NES games have online play and you can keep them for as long as you are subscribed.

>>378935663
>dual stick shooter
>Splatoon 1 had only gyroscope controls for aiming in single player
Regardless of whether you think this is better or not, your bait as been called out. You didn't even play the game. You're doing nothing but shitposting for the purpose of rounding up a few (You)'s.

>>378932491
monster hunter XX

>>378931776
I never paid more than $35 a year. They go on sale so often. With that said, $20 a year is pretty reasonable but Nintendo doesn't have that many games worth going online for.

>>378935902

>Splatoon 1 had only gyroscope controls for aiming in single player

Okay, so you have never played Splatoon if you think you can't change the controls.

>>378935815
Well that sucks. I don't use voice chat, is that really it?
>>378935852
That's actually kind of cool but not $20 cool. Besides, netplay exists not that I have friends to play with.

i have no problem paying as long as it works better. nintendo's been notorious for shit online play. if 20 bucks a year makes it so that it works well, great

File: ninjewery.png (27KB, 501x585px) Image search: [Google]

27KB, 501x585px

>>378931776
giv me shekels to use your already paid internet service, goyim

>>378931776
i'm not supposed to pay to use my fucking internet

fuck microsoft for starting this shit

>>378931776

Someone post the thing where sonybros start backtracking when sony introduces paid online because that is this thread right now

>>378937087
Sony's been charging $60 bucks a year for subscription service, and it's still shit.

>>378935779
>why would i pay for something if i could just steal it?

>>378935069
Oh man sick, EPIC rebuttal

EVERYTHING he has EVER said is now invalidated because you said he was posting from his PHONE, and you didnt even have to prove it if it mattered 8n the forst place, fuxking DESTROYED!!!11 no other response could have rebutted any better, not a one

>>378937609
wow you're angry

File: 5439754375-375.png (282KB, 526x550px) Image search: [Google]

282KB, 526x550px

>>378935069

>using voice chat from your phone
>ever

File: 1494112294363.png (43KB, 657x560px) Image search: [Google]

43KB, 657x560px

>>378938663
Thats actually a thing I did with discord.
I wish consoles came with discord.

>>378934164
People are willing to pay for it.

>>378931776
>People will accept the payment plan just before it comes out
I called it, I fucking called it.
No, fuck you and your mom, OP, I'm going to stay mad, you fucking piece of shit.

File: 1488913261722.jpg (94KB, 1024x1019px) Image search: [Google]

94KB, 1024x1019px

>>378931776
Oh yes goyim it's cheaper than your lunch, don't be a cheap jew hehehe.

Anyone that defends nintendo paid online probably never experienced the "wonders" of online play on nintendo systems.

File: 1494607794981.jpg (77KB, 597x714px) Image search: [Google]

77KB, 597x714px

>>378939551
I actually had the best online play on Nintendo systems over the last two gens.
PS3 was crapping itself much more often and 360 was all twelve year olds shouting into mics so I bowed out quickly.

Charging for it is still horseshit though.

>>378931776
>It costs $19.99 a year. A year.
> Sony and Microsoft charge you like 60 fucking bucks for only a month of online.
>That's fucking shit

Yeah both of those are shit and I won't support any of them, because I'm not a cuck.

File: IMG_1124.jpg (88KB, 707x594px) Image search: [Google]

88KB, 707x594px

>>378937609
He's right about me being on my phone, note the iPhone filename. Not that it's a good argument, but I've yet to hear a good argument for paid online, so I didn't expect much better.

>>378933720
Pokemon diamond and pearl

>>378933318
>It's okay when PSN goes down for days at a time!
Don't they add two days to your sub time when this happens? I don't have a PS4, but I'm guessing that'd be the case.

>>378942915
You're probably thinking of Black/White/Black2/White2 with the use of the Xtransceiver. Diamond and Pearl had no such capabilities.

>>378937609
Calm down, kid.

>>378931986
LITERALLY nothing changed with ps+. Nothing. Don't pretend like the money goes into servers.

>>378931776
paid online is always, always and always shit.

20€ a year is at least way lower than sony´s 60-70€ ps plus shit.

File: druggu.jpg (95KB, 668x498px) Image search: [Google]

95KB, 668x498px

>>378934592
>Not paying for Everything

>>378932306
>>378932382
That thing is an unnecesary 3rd party accesory.

>>378933657
How much is WOW now these days?

>>378931776
I don't own a PS4 or a Xbone, or even a 360, nor do I play online games that require monthly payments. I don't care enough about video games to pay for them more than once.

>>378931776 you fucking moron!

>>378933475
It's a license to print money

>>378934280
I'd say that last point goes against the switch's favour.

B-But you get to play NES games for free