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Summoner continues being the most bloated clusterfuck I've ever seen in a MMO.

What's the purpose of Enkindle Bahamut? Couldn't Dreadwyrm Trance reset the CD for Enkindle like it does for Tri Disaster?

Speaking of Dreadwyrm Trance, did we really need a separate button for Summon Bahamut?

Also, why the fuck isn't Ruin IV a trait that automatically empowers regular Ruin?

We lost two GCD DOTs for a bunch of buttons that we'll use every now and never.

>black mages still have their full thaumaturge rotation, but will be even more fun when synced
How typical.
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ded thred
ded gaem
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Fuck it man drop the class and jump on the red mage hype train with me
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>will be even more fun when synced
Can they get aoe thunder early?
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>>378885140
Just pass me the hat bro.
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summoner was actually supposed to be void mage, hence all the death & decay spells

they changed their original summons, things like succubus, caith sith, vodoriga, into the egis at the last second

so if you balance toward making the pet stronger, wow warlock mains will cry, but if you buff dots, people who want summoner will cry

everyone has their own version of what summoner is supposed to be but they should really just delete the class and start over
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>>378885231
Thunder II is AoE
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>>378884940
summoners have to be the BIGGEST bitches on the game, they cry about every single fucking thing, worst thign is that SE listens to them and do what they ask, they want glam egis?, got them, they still bitch and cry, they want to summon big primals?, you got to summon fucking bahamut, and they STILL find something to bitch and cry about, just fuck off already
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>>378885365
aren't they already doing the highest damage in the game too?
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>>378884940
Summoner should have never been a dot class in the first place.
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>>378885365
These whiny faggots got flare nerfed
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>>378885365
This. My main dps is smn and all i hear is whine whine whine.
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>>378885256
Pet class or DOT class doesn't matters to me.

I just don't understand how they thought it would be fun to set up two dots and then spam Ruin until your cooldowns are avaliable or you get a trigger for a slightly stronger Ruin.
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>>378885365
that's a curious way to spell white mage
not like it matters, in the end
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>>378884940

Ruin IV is a trait actually bud. Does exactly what you said it should.
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>>378885710
WHM weren't whiny before SB updates because they have already accepted their shitty fate, but the recent misjudgment for WHM justify their complain. They are really beyond payable more than SMN.
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>>378885710
>SMN is dead
Fuck off with this shitty meme
Do people actually think SMN is bad now?
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>>378885365
>Summon Bahamut!
>Ruin spam for another 2 minutes
>why are you complaining lol XDDD
Fucking black mages, back to the shed with you.
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Today someone bought 45 crit IV materia for 2.1mil. It's good to be patient. Of course retards had to go back to undercutting the price from 50k down to 5k.
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>>378885539
yeah, i don't know what the fuck does dot have anything to do with a summoner. i just assumed they were given dots because those are "set up and forget for the duration" skills that give the player time to micro the pet or some shit
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>>378885310
Ran out of things to copy.
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What happened to the FFXI threads on /v/? Didn't even see a general on /vg/

Started playing it while waiting for Stormblood and it's actually pretty fun.
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>>378885365

That's what happens when you give in to the literal lemming class. They just keep asking for more, doesn't help that they're the easiest role next to MNK with infinite mobility, a stance that's impossible to fuck up with the widest flexibility out of all upkeep buffs.
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>ctrl + f
>bane
ya getting better, /v/.
ya getting better.
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>mfw tank main
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>>378884940
Obviously bait. Anyone who talks shit about SMN doesn't really know what they are talking about.
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>>378886127
I sold some Command V's i've been holding onto for a while for 250k ea yesterday, they're 500k ea today
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A S T R O L O G I A N
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>>378886127
>mfw crafting and gathering materia V were suddenly 500k+ yesterday on Levi
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>>378885310
Did they have to cut dungeon production to 2 and then 1.5 per patch because Yoshi lost that sweet Red Bull product placement ad deal?
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>>378886471
i thought we're getting faster patches
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>>378885310
When they hired this dude
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>>378886249

Making room for Super-Savage and the new Relic-specific zones.
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>Summoners
>Bloated
>literally the smallest hotbars of every job in the expansion

>Meanwhile Samurai has all those retarded combos and finishers
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>>378886512
I almost feel sorry for dude

almost
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>>378886249
they shifted marketing resources from FFXI to FFXIV. can't pay shills to hype FFXI anymore.
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>>378886323
They really did a good job with the tank role as a whole compared to any other role.
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>>378886249
The only FFXI threads were made by the /v/ LS on Asura, pretty much to shill for the LS, and it's been getting less and less active. They usually only make threads around the time there's a good campaign happening anyway, and one of those just ended.

Unfortunately they hardly do anything in-game anymore, and I just quit playing myself.
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>>378886692
They did fine with ranged and casters. The only shitshow was the healers.
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>>378885710
White mage can still heal right? Only people who care are the minmax power players and just like the erpers their opinions should be disregarded.
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>>378886539
No, he said that he's happy with the ~3.5 month cycle and that he thinks they're doing a good job of putting out content "without overwhelming players".
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>>378886919
>can still heal
so can the other two
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>>378886941
>7 months doing the same 2 dungeons if you get unlucky with the roulette
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>>378886919
I don't think you understand just how bad the new White Mage mechanics are.

White Mages can "still heal" but the new mechanics encourage them to heal in the worst way possible.

As any White Mage if they'd rather cast Cure 1 every few seconds on the tank or cast Regen and then go do something else.
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>>378886512
>That name
I'd have removed him too
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>>378886919
>White mage can still heal right?
Outside of 2.0 WAR every job could do their role.

However, this doesn't means that every job has/had good design.
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>Tanks: bretty gud, all on even level with personal flavor
>Ranged: streamlined, removed casting and glaring weaknesses while possibly knocking damage down a bit
>Casters: simplified across the board

But then
>Melee: removed dots but doubled down on some inner mechanic complexities
>Healers: JUST
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It's just baffling to me that such an iconic role like WHM gets shafted each time.

Makes me wonder if Yoshi or someone else on the dev teams hates someone who mains WHM.
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>>378886349
Let me guess
>muh ASTlogs
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I just want to play SAM
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>it's a 0 whm complain the dps is low and we aren't skipping phases in savage episode
Maybe dps haha maybe switch to ast and make it higher with balance haha
God I hate whm.
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>>378886471
Yet they're charging more than ever, we have pay to win level boosts, and there's literal idiot faggots defending this shit on the forums, lapping the feces up into their mouths while asking for more ways to be fucked over.

Stormblood is supposed to have like three times the budget of Heavensward but in every single area we're getting less content.

No new race. Only two classes instead of three. Only 1 dungeon in a patch. Tons of pruned abilities. PvP pruned down to only 10 buttons. Loading screen when you go to swim. The list goes on.
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>>378887085

Their patch cycle is already quite rapid for an MMO. The average I typically see is 6 months in between patches, unless you're WoW and you delay patches to coincide with your competitors.

The issue is they haven't been able to milk dungeons and misc content with stuff like speedclears, harder difficulty settings, restrictions for bonus loot.

>>378887347

They've only just been shafted just now. WHM was already neck and neck with AST for Creator and that discrepancy was mostly due to DPS fuckups because of how piss-easy the raid tier was. Unless you think you're relevant to speedrun meta.
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>>378884940
>wah wah wah I'm shit and my brain can't think beyond my current rotation that I can't even complete competently.
Neat thread Op.
Let me help you.
Aether -> Dread -> Demibaha restart at the beginning.
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Is there anything I can craft as a fresh 60 GSM / WVR to make some money? I'm fucking broke after making collectables.
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>>378887347
Probably. He's obviously biased.
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>>378887347
On the bright side YoshiP usually does try and listen to player feedback, so the near universal negative reaction to White Mage's new mechanics (Not just english speakers, JP players hate it too) should mean something.
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>>378887319
>Healers
only WHM got JUSTed
>but muh dots
you're a healer
enjoy that battle litany
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>>378887490
MUH PURE HEALER
MUH MONTHLY SUB

muh dead class
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>>378887574
>Stormblood is supposed to have like three times the budget of Heavensward
lul kek ecksdee
You know this was always a hoax right?
Their MMO business is not that profitable.
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>>378887359
No. If you bothered to think about the adjustments they did to balance out the few "nerfs" they decided to do then you'd understand SMN is actually at a better position than it was before.
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>>378887670
>JP hate it too
Thank god, maybe then the devs will pay attention
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>>378887606
The problem is that we had way better when this game launched.

I don't want to play a game and keep thinking about how much better it was 3 years ago and that it's downhill from here.

Hell we didn't even have cash shops back then.
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Male Highlanders, male Au Ra and male Roes should be tanks.
Female Miqo'te should be bards or ninjas
Male or female elezen should be mechanists
Male or female Au Ra should be dragoons
Female lalafell should be casters/healers as well as gatherers

This is absolute. This is fact.
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>>378887718
AST and SCH are stupidly overpowered for the suggested difficulty level
No healsluts should have all that power
I'm in for a tier of spamming Malefic
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Convince me not to play MCH.
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>>378887838
>Au Ra should be Dragoons
>Not Elezen
Shit list.
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>>378887889
Bows are cool. Guns are not.
This is fact.
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>>378887947
t. xXxKatnissEverd33nxXx
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>>378887760
I don't care about logs dude. The job will feel like shit without dot management, it's like taking MNK and adding a skill that increases their GCD.
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>>378887670

They definitely will. There was a gamut of minor changes for a ton of roles before savage came out in 3.0. May not fix WHM, but it only takes a slight tweak to change WHM for the better. It's not like WoW where a 30% dps difference is allowed to fester for months.
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>>378887838
>Male or female Au Ra should be dragoons
Are you retarded?
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>>378887642
Take a look at crafted materials you can make on Marketboard and try to sell some of them. Learn2marketboard.
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>>378887889
They are going to suck. Stormblood will BRING BADASS BARDS BACK BABY!
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>>378887838
Good thing I'm a female midlander so I can be anything.
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>>378888004
>it's like taking MNK and adding a skill that increases their GCD.

Uhhhhhhhh.....
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>>378887889
If you use a gun, people might think you're cool.
Play BRD instead and avoid this dilemma.
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>>378887750
>>378887960
Square-Enix Defense Force drones right on time I see.
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>>378888004
>it's like taking MNK and adding a skill that increases their GCD.
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>>378888051
>Implying those fucking thighs aren't perfect for launching
I am a genius. This is fact.
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>>378888004
(You)
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>>378888004
>like taking MNK and adding a skill that increases their GCD
Boy have I got a surprise for you
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>>378887838
>Male of female elezen should be machinists
These cocksuckers can't even play BRD right, so no.

>female Au Ra should be dragoons
Not only do dragoon aesthetics look like shit on them, their highest stats were mind, int and piety.

The only accurate things in your shit list are male roe tanks and lalafell.casters/healers.
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Be honest here, Give reason me why are you still playing this game when you know you'll be disappointed in SB anyway?
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>>378888373
I won't be. I liked Heavensward, I'll likely like SB.
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>>378888373
Because I like to think I'll find a nice static this time and it will keep me interested in the game. Won't happen though.
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>>378888358
it's not based off stats you clown stop fucking bullying me idiot

>>378888373
Because I know I won't be
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>>378888373
My class got good changes
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>>378888152
so what do you plan to do? unsub it? I dont give a shit about SE because I'm not gunna play it again. You're the real goy here.
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As a mnk main I'm literally sad, this is by far worse than whm.
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>>378888373
Because I won't be you big dummy
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>>378888373
The only thing I'm disappointed in was the move to the West coast.
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>>378888373
I don't play WHM
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>>378888373
I'll just play it for a while, try out the new jobs, do the MSQ and explore the irrelevant open world until I take a break again unless my friends persuade me to keep playing.
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>>378887838
>only cats as NINs
>elezen as MCHs only
Your absolute facts are wrong and you should feel bad about it.
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>>378888638
>oGCD 1
>oGCD 2
Careful there, you might upset the east coasters.
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>>378888373
At this point it's really just for my friends and my static. SE has made FFXIV really unappealing to me over the past month.
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>that feel when no FC going into SB
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>>378887838

>the most powerful dragoons in history are always elezen

Check YOUR facts shitter.
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>>378888638
NOOOO DON'T POST THIS
I WAS MEANT TO BE THE BIG DICK DPS
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>>378888784

Why?
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>>378888793
>Found a comfy FC right before SB
>Will probably have to move EU for the ping
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>>378888638
does the same thing exists for war and drk for comparison? Looking great for PLD though.
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>>378888358
Xaela have the best stats for melee/tank though
It's Raen that are only fit to be housewives and casters
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>>378888793
Getting an FC isn't even the hard part.
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>>378888527
>you're the real goy for being pissed off about a greedy company ruining a game because idiot fanboy drones allow it to happen and enable it
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>>378888835
Excuse you the Azure Dragoon before Estinien was a Hyur
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>>378889000
>racial stats

The only people that ever benefited were dunefolk Lala BLMs.
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>>378888897
I'm a WHM main on the east coast, among other things.
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>tfw have a comfy static of highly skilled friends I enjoy to play with
Looking good boyos
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>>378889131
losing out F I V E str points from min to max
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>>378886323
Can't wait to make SAM and RDM fags pay me to run dungeons with them so they don't have to wait for the 2hr queue
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>>378889187
We're in the thousands, that hardly matters.
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>>378889161
>Main WHM
Stop being a useless party drain and start drawing cards.
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>>378889184

How did you find your static anon?
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>>378888492
I know that feel. I'll end up having to pug all the shit with echo.
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>>378887838
>join group
>tank, or MDPS is Lalafell
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>>378888373
There are no other good MMOs
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>>378888373
>my favorite jobs are going to get cool stuff
>SAM and RDM looks cool so far
>Othard is full of cuties, lolis included
>Lyse a cute
Looks pretty good to me so far.
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>>378889394
Lalafell tank master race.
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>>378887838
Retarded "facts" based on nothing
For one thing dragoons are elite knights of Ishgard, no way would Au Ra be allowed in their ranks. If anything Au Ra should be ninjas, while Miqo'te would normally have no access to ninja teachings, and mechanists are a new guild who would take pretty much anyone
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>>378889343
I just answered the right recruitment drive way back in 2.2 days and then it built from there.
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>>378889083

Okay so one hyur, out of how many elezen? Checkmate.
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>>378888373
>you know you'll be disappointed in SB
Do I?
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>>378888929
Here's the thing, PLD has quite a few exceptions to this if Halone is ever used, or if they Oath swap

Sheltron(using lv 60 values scaled to 70) restores 960 MP, Riot Blade restores 600 MP, and Oaths cost 600 MP.

This means for every Halone combo or Oath swap, you need to get a Sheltron hit, and you'll get about 2 per minute of continuous Sword Oath attacking. However, if you do get 2 Sheltrons per minute, you can afford 3 of those actions, Halone combo and/or Oath swaps.

This mechanic of "okay I actually can't purely channel DPS, but I don't really lose anything in my burst if I cover it with other resources" is brilliant and I hope DRK/WAR work the same way
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>>378887792

We had it way better because that's all we had. If you look at patches for 2.x, we really only got a trial, the dungeons, and a raid. Now we have GS, TT, PotD, Aquapolis, PvP, Scrips, WT, the other Khloe, FC airships, Diadem, Hunts, Squadron, sightseeing, housing, 5x the gathering nodes in 1 hour fuckin windows, the Feast, housing/glamour related crafting recipes, Anima. There are a lot of avenues in which the game is expanding and they more or less run the same crew, at least that's what I believe. This being a vertical progression MMO, there's a ton of effort needed to make sure every system fits in without having the jank you'd see in stuff like Korean MMOs. Remember Desynthesis? Yeah. And then in 4.0, we have a new PvP mode, the Relic-specific zone which is essentially nu-Diadem.

So yeah, it's shit that they are doing less dungeons, but there's a reason why. If you wanna compare the value of 1 dungeon per patch vs new shit like PotD, I'd pick the new shit.
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war/pld
drg/nin/rdm/brd
ast/sch

This would be the optimal raid set up
Rdm has more utility than sam/mnk/blm
brd is now better than mch because songs
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>>378889595
Tch...you rue this day.
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>want to play SAM since I wanted SAM since 2.0
>everyone else is going to play it too

At least with MCH everyone dropped it quick, I don't think that will be the case with SAM.
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>>378889708
>war/pld
nope
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>>378888373
If they do another HW launch i just won't resub.
I like the game overall so i will be back when i judge that my sub is worth it.
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>Oh boy I wonder how they're going to implement the catchup mechanic for SB! Maybe a 'last time on Final Fantasy' type recap for those who want to skip to current content, or maybe they'll reduce the the MSQ quest bloat between 2.0 and 3.0.
>There are so many ways they could do it! But they've gotta do SOMETHING, the sheer amount of time it would take for a new player to get from level 1 to Stormblood is ridiculous.
>They implement a fucking cash shop MSQ skip, at $60 per expansion

so instead of addressing the problem, they apply an expensive bandaid to it and pretend it doesn't exist
bravo yoshi
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>>378889715

It's okay anon I meant in the best intentions, we're still cool, just saying that the poster claiming Au RA would have rights to dragoon can go fuck himself, Elezen and midlander hyur are the only aerodynamic races anyway.
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>>378889717
SAM is a more likely candidate for a mass drop than RDM. RDM is both flashier and easier to learn.
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>>378889661
DRK works very very similarly. WAR gets fucked just as hard as ever if they try to multitask.
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>>378889803
>incorrect tooltip
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>>378889708
Both RDM and SMN can be interchangeable really, but they need to have Ifrit out instead.
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>>378889803

I can't see this sole survior thing on any of the sources I have
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>>378888373
I want to see how far it can sink.
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>>378888717
Who the fuck is this dude and why is his garbage shown here all the time
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>WHM who spam ATTACK XYZ in Feast instead of marking them
>getting themselve killed in the first encounter
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>>378889717
It is impossible to play the game if you care about popular choices and stereotypes, because all jobs are full of shitters and memes about them.
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>>378889803
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>>378889803
>>378890030
hahahahahaha

BTFO
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>>378889989

Problem is I don't have a static so I would be trying to get a static as a SAM, which seems like a bad idea since new popular job and it's melee.
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>>378890030
>>378889927
>>378889953
JP tooltip has it
EN tooltips are incomplete and sometimes flat out wrong
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>>378889537
Simpler times. I feel comparatively fucked.
>Take a break
>Don't have recent logs
>Nobody will bat an eye at me
Best I can really hope for is joining a mediocre/desperate static to use as a stepping stone. Maybe I'll get lucky and I can smooth talk my way into something better, but I'm not holding my breath.
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>>378889940
>Ifrit
I hope that piece of shit gets a defense buff or having to place nice with the physicals is going to be a pain in the ass.

On the other hand I'm looking forward to having 4 SMNs in a 24 man group for 100% uptime on trick contagion.
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>>378887838
Male midlanders should be war, drg or nin
Female midlanders should be whm, ast or nin
Male highlanders should be pld or monk
Female highlanders should be pld or monk
Male au ra should be drk
Female au ra should be nin or ast
Male roes should be war, pld or mch
Female roes shouldn't exist
Male elezens should be drg or blm
Female elezens should be drg, blm or sch
Male cats shouldn't exist
Female cats should be brd or sch
Male potatoes should be blm or sch
Female potatoes should be whm or sch
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>>378888373
I feel that, for the mostpart, HW was a big improvement on the game and SB looks to be going in the same direction.
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>>378890171
Fuck off touhoufag
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>>378889927
>I think the English text, handled by FFXIV's legendary localization team, is more accurate than the original Japanese text
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>>378888373
Because Final Fantasy 16 will never be made.
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Can any anons give someone completely new to this any tips that could help? It looks fun and it honestly surprises me that /v/ likes it as much as they do considering /v/ hates everything.
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>>378890278
Why is all of the good art never face 1? They always draw the face to look like face 1 but they give it the horns of the other faces. It's fucking bullshit.
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>>378890131
Except there's literally no indication that the JP tooltip is correct either. it's way more likely that they deleted the line of the description saying "PVP only" without realising the next line was also included in that.
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>>378888373
>ping got even better since the datacenter move
>classes I play got better
>all these quality of life additions
>stormblood ost sounds just as good as heavensward
>samurai looks amazing
>more people are playing on my server now since they locked gilgamesh/balmung
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>>378889805
The problem is that people beg for this kind of shit, and Yoshi implied in one of the old live letters (while asking a question about a potential glamour set based on Goddess/Sophia, if I remember correctly) that he isn't in full control of the cash shop.
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I wish I could enjoy the game still

maybe Stormblood will rekindle my love
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So what trials are we getting after Laskhmi and Susanoo? Four Guardians maybe? Something original? Nothing at all?
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>>378889805
>how dare SE make me play the game
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>>378890301
I think developers can make mistakes, yes.
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>>378890415
>>ping got even better since the datacenter move
But there is no difference between 30ms and 100ms :^))))
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>>378888058
So a resounding 'no', got it.

Crafting was a mistake.
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>>378890437
ASURA
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https://www.finder.com.au/final-fantasy-xiv-stormblood-viera

Hold on to your butts people.
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>>378890412
>IT CAN'T BE RIGHT IT'S TOO UNBALANCED

>Meanwhile The Balance
>Meanwhile 3.2 Hypercharge
>Meanwhile Earthly Star
>Meanwhile
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>>378889805

If a chunk of your playerbase asks you if they could throw money so they could play your game a little bit quicker, would you say no to that.
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>>378889927
>>378889953
>>378890030
>>378890110
tooltips have been wrong before

MCH flamethrower potency was listed as 6 and not 60

NIN's Shadow Fang incorrectly had the slashing debuff listed as pvp-only

MNK's riddle of fire is supposed to be 15% speed loss for 30% damage, not 30% and 20%

SAM has 2 ogcd skills that use the same amount of Kenki, but one requires a dodge + is 100 less potency, which makes the weaker skill 100% redundant

there are other typos and stuff present, but that screencap is from BG's translation of a Famitsu article, if true, DRK is extremely strong
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>>378889805
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>>378890412
Find another example of an incorrect Japanese tooltip in this game, past or present.
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>>378890131
>>378890301
Some JP tooltips are also wrong, for example RDM's impact
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>>378886323
>trying to decide on wether to main BLM or DRK for SB
only downside is shit ping makes doubleweaving borderline impossible but ohwell
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>>378890149
Not sure if 4 SMNs would be a good idea but having a SMN pair up with another caster would be super good.
Tank mage WHEN?
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>>378890415

Why did you post a picture of a yellow wall.
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Calm Daughter.
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>>378890536
I would think there was a chance of it being true if that same effect wasn't an old pvp effect, it's most likely just a fuckup in the japanese tooltip.
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>>378890605
I don't speak Japanese.
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AST question: what situations would you want Enhanced over Extended? Even taking burst phases into account, I can't think of any situation where overall effect isn't higher with 30s more of 20% potency increase. (ignoring Expanded, obviously preferably in all situations, just contemplating the numbers here)
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>people so tied to their job bitching about its uselessness in 4.0 when they can just change to another class using the same armor
Maybe if this were like WoW where your character was locked to the class you started as you'd have a point.
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>>378890534
This is what depresses me about more beastly races, even with the Viera, they do have that strange heel thing going on that could easily be edited away of course with this game's interpretation of Viera, but the devs aren't willing to go more beyond humanoid anatomy due to old gear.

So we'll never see a Bangaa for instance.

It's a valid concern of course, they have to take into account old gear and whatnot, but man...
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>>378890632
>Tank mage WHEN
Have you not seen PLD?
>>378888638
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>>378890534
>promising a slut race so people stop complaining about their ping and SB nerfs
This man is a fucking genius.
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>>378890118
People in statics aren't looking for X or Y jobs, they are looking for players that know how to play X or Y jobs. The worst you will get as a SAM is "YOOOOOOOOOO" spam on party chat during DF/PotD runs.

>>378890524
You underestimate how lazy the average crafter is in this game. That is how new crafters are supposed to make money until they get rich enough to become lazyfags too.
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>>378890513
And you also believe that the English translation team translated the original Japanese tooltip in a way that was inaccurate but just so happened to be inaccurate in a way that fixed the mistake of the original text by sheer coincidence.
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>>378890374
You don't need any tips because the game will hand-hold you enough.
If you want specific tips, people would answer for you.
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>>378890415
>ping got even better since the datacenter move
Fuck you, you piece of shit.
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>>378890534
remember the au ra concept art?
imagine what viera will be
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>>378890507
No, listen, I'm cleared up to SB. I'll be fine when it drops. However, new players will not be, and have a minimum 150 hours of MSQ they need to do before they can finally play the latest expansion.

It was alright when you had to play through just ARR to get to HW, but now a new player will have to play through ARR, ARR patches, HW and HW patches until FINALLY, they get to play SB with the rest of the playerbase.

The MSQ is a fucking problem now. it is incredibly bloated with tons of boring "go here, talk to X" quests that just waste time.
The MSQ has gone from being a unique feature that makes the game stand out in the genre to a hindrance that will get new players to quit playing because of just how much they have to do to play with their friends.

It should have went optional in HW. Instead, they keep powering forward with it, locking more than half the fucking game behind it. And they'll continue to do so in SB.
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>>378890869
Does PLD do magic damage specifically? I'm not very familiar with any of the tanks.
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why do people get emotionally attached to the job they play and feel the need to attack people who play other jobs
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>>378891027
it gets a spammable single target holy that does 500 potency damage
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>>378891027
Yes. They're Almost Holy.
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I don't get why enkindle doesn't automatically become enkindle bahamut when he's summoned. There's no point of them being separate.
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>>378890882
I believe that both teams were told "remove the PVP effects from all skills", and that since the English localisation has it on one line it got removed properly while the Japanese version has it spread over two lines and only the one referring to PVP got deleted. It's easy to automate removing any line containing "PVP", but problems happen when related information is on a completely separate line.
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>>378891027
Only Holy Spirit does magic damage. Req specifically buffs attack magic potency by 20%, and is on a 12s duration, 60s CD, so your Req phase is just pure magic burst

Fight of Flight buffs PHYSICAL damage by 30%, and is on a 30s duration, 60s CD
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>>378888638
Pld is an actual pld and not just a shitty knight now.
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>>378890937
>remember the au ra concept art?
A bunch of ideas that'll just end up being a pain/impractical to implement into the game.
>imagine what viera will be
The same you see in the past, maybe except having human limbs instead.
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>>378890687
Nani?
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>>378890534
>Another fucking race.
No. Stop. The game doesn't NEED this cash shop fluff. There's no point to alts in this game, so all new races are is fantasia bait.

The existing races need more customization options. More body options, more hairs. No pointless miqo'te 2.0 with bunny ears. Shit.
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>>378890605
JP Fester tooltip in stormblood is as wrong as the english one. All indications in live demonstrations of smn abilities show fester still does more damage than painflare. So yes JP tooltips can be wrong too.
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>let the other healer solo heal all Dun Scaith bosses
>they're working hard to keep all the bad DPS up
>check them
>she's a cute dark skinned lalafell
I feel so guilty :(
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>>378890937
>imagine what viera will be
Lalafells with bunny ears.
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>>378891165
>Passage of Arms
>Intervention
>the Cover buff
>50% uptime Fight or Flight
I'm a little sad that Clemency and Divine Veil weren't touched on, but it's really good overall
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>>378891112
I've never seen video game patch name denial take the form of elaborate fanfiction about translation.
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>>378890937
I want to believe.
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>>378891095
>I don't get why enkindle doesn't automatically become enkindle bahamut when he's summoned. There's no point of them being separate.
Because they're different skills.
Enkindle is still just a 3m cooldown for your pet
Enkindle Bahamut commands it to do Akh Morn on a much shorter cooldown (it's effectively once every minute I think)
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>>378890374

Treat the leveling experience as a traditional FF story and it'll probably feel less tedious. You can change role at 15 so don't sweat the first job too much as it only affects the starting city and some flavor text.

Leves are essentially repeatable quests that you can spam for exp. For battle classes, it's better to use FATEs (overworld content) or just the abundance of side quests to level up your first job. Your highest leveled job will confer an exp% bonus for jobs lower than it if you decide to level up other things. Leves are generally used for leveling Crafters and Gatherers quickly.

Combat seems slow but it picks up very quickly with endgame rotations. AoE attacks from enemies check for positioning when the cast finishes, not when the animation happens.
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>>378891183
Cute!
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There is no races in this game, it's all just varying degrees of hyur with cat ears or horns etc. Fucking joke.
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>>378890534
>only 4 faces
>4 chins
>4 eyes
>B-BUT ENTIRE NEW RACE

Fuck this game give us more customization
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>>378891080
>>378891082
>>378891153
Aw, well I was hoping for it to have more than that. It could've gone well paired up with SMN with a magic party.
Still hoping for a pure magic tank though. Maybe Mystic Knight or Blue Mage made tank.
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>>378891383
We need a XIV version of this image where every race is just Hyur/Hyur-with-shit-on-their-face.
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>>378891254
Yes there is because more variety is always good.
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>>378891418
Good, furfags can fuck off to wow or bless online.
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>>378891396
You misunderstand. Other skills automatically become something else if a condition is met. Enkindle should as well. That way you don't have to waste hotbar space because it switches between the two itself when you need it.
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>>378891396
Demi Bahamut is out for 20 seconds and Ahk Morn has a 13 second CD, so you get 2 every summon.

Enkindle also has a new trait that lowers it's CD every time you proc Ruin 4, which itself is procced by your pet. I actually think it's a nice way to add synergy between SMN and pet, even if the result is RNG shit. It's certainly much better than the old pet SpS buff.
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>>378891475
If only we had more variety in battle content

Joking lol glamour is true endgame XD
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>>378891254
>Viera comes out in 5.0
>Only one dungeon every six months now because of the extra work of maintaining armor for yet-another-race
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>tfw war main since 2.0
>tfw we've been beaten
Should I just main drk in SB?
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>>378890692
Yes, I'm sure the Japanese tooltip changed the PvP effect and forgot to add the PvP only modifier, I'm sure they also mentioned in the livestream that it affects targets outside PvP now as well as a mistake.
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>>378891475
haha I would sure love see too 800 face 1 viera with the same hair style but colored differently!!

So much variety
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>>378891465
That image is about sexual dimorphism, though. About how in fantasy games, the males and females of monster races look like entirely different species because only the males are actually monstrous in appearance.

XIV doesn't have this problem. All the races have genders that look fairly similar.
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>>378891095
There is. Ruin IV reduces the cd of Enkindle so it should at least be separate.
I wish it reduced Enkindle Bahamut too
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>>378891639
>maintaining armor
wew lad they haven't even tried to add holes for miqote tails since 1.0
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>>378891620
Enkindle has to be separate thanks to its new trait. If anything, Deathflare should turn into Ahk Morn since you can't be in trance while demi is out anyway.
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>>378891465
thank god it stays that way

the LAST thing we need are furries
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every tooltip is wrong until early access
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>>378891632
That's why they keep making new things like Diadem, Palace of the Dead, Aquapolis.
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>>378891726
Should kys, traitor
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>>378885449
Far from it they're probably the worst job to take for speed clears of Alex this tier black mage being a close second.
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>>378891769
15% every 3 seconds for a 10s reduction on a CD that's 3m long.

It's pathetic. I'd rather have one less button to press.
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>>378891767
SHUT UP JUST LET ME BE ANGRY THAT I CAN'T SHOW OFF HOW MUCH OF A FUCKING FURFAGGOT I AM AT ALL TIMES REEE YIFF YIFF
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who else /readyforSB/ here?
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>>378891787
Well at least Viera don't have tails then
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xiv shills fuck off plz
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>>378886217
Some people suggested the class got a name change last min.

But I agree, SMN should have been AoE burst class.

More focus on assigning pet actions with the GCD, raising pet power until it can burst, and filling in with Ruin in the mean time. (I do agree with Ruin being SMN's main spell)
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Any tooltip that's bad news for my favourite class is obviously a mistake!
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>>378891887
Great content.
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>>378891812
They're still in the middle of readjusting numbers. Everything has a chance of being +20/-20 what the current numbers are, honestly.
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>>378891726
>actually believing the shitposting from salty DRKs
Whatever it is stop playing WAR we don't want you
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>>378891737
That was never mentioned in the live letter, it makes sense they fucked up the description considering the changes pvp is gonna go through.
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>>378891356
Anyone that has experience in software development should understand how easy that kind of mistake is to make. You don't want to manually go through every single tooltip and make sure you remove PVP from them manually, you'll do a simple find and replace on the term and delete any lines with it.
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>>378890534
>people overreacting to YoshiP's typical "SOONâ„¢" promises
It's a bit amazing how people still don't know how to read Yoshi's interviews, he always say the same kind of shit (with some extra nonsense as a bonus) to these kind of questions.
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>tfw
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>>378891726
DRK in SB is pretty much an improved version of current WAR so yeah
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>>378891787
Hey man, someone had to paint on those black circles for the tail 'holes' that the tails don't even line up with.
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Currently a male Roe WAR and leveling, around 54 and just got fell cleave and love it. I won't be able to tank forever though and am interested in a DPS class, might go SAM/NIN/MNK but not sure if I like male Roes as those jobs.

Are fem Roes good looking in gear from those jobs?
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>>378890869
Im a Wowfugee and i hate paladins. If you play as a paladin in any game, you should castrate yourself
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>>378892104
It's okay WAR friend, my static will still take you come SB if we can't find a paladin.
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>>378892014
>rabbits don't have tails
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>>378892286
>Wowfugee
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>>378890534
If they'd have to change all the foot armor just to work with Viera then the race will never fucking be added no matter how many times Yoshi-P says "soon". It's like you faggots have never dealt with an MMO lead's false promises before.
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>>378892287
But I main PLD/DRK, WAR too but melds are aimed for PLD/DRK bis, if you think sole survivor is gonna become trick attack you're delusional.
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So hypothetically if the DRK trick attack is real they get a guaranteed spot in the meta but what if the tooltip is wrong? If so wouldn't DRK be completely outclassed by PLD and WAR and they'd be in the cuckshed?
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>>378891351
Clemency is gonna cost half its current MP cost and be uninterruptable after level 66.
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>>378890869
PLD looks cool as fuck.

Yet I don't want to play tanks or healers after Yoshi-P said that crap about the population not changing to DPS in SB.
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>>378891632
Yet more and more glamour keeps going into the cash shop instead of the game and the prices on the items keep getting higher and higher.
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Should I get my CPU delidded before stormblood for those cool temps?
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>>378892315
Viera actually don't have tails idiot
The FFXIV version at least gave them a cotton tail
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>>378892445
All three tanks are balanced, the japanese sole survivor tooltip is just a fuckup, if it had that effect someone would have noticed already, the rest is just shitposting.
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>>378892445
Not really, we don't know until we test actual damage outputs in the release version. Just the potencies cannot be trusted as a point of comparison between jobs.
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>>378892419
It's okay friend. Fell Cleave still looks cool. You don't need to pretend, you're just going to end up hurt more.
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>>378892286
>he doesn't play Pally in every game he can
>he's a wowfugee and DIDN'T play as a Reckadin
Literally praying for your soul right now my dude.
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>>378892545
>viera don't have tails
>but they do!
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The only reason I don't play this game is because I couldn't get a character on the ERP server.
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>>378892109
Yeah obviously it's automated because of the several hundred skills each class has with PvP-specific descriptions that are all written to stringent specifications that make that kind of automation quick and easy, and definitely not just a handful of skills per class that would be much easier to change by hand.
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>>378891351
Clemency is fine now that PLD got that trait that prevents spell interruption and halves MP cost though.
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>>378892530
delidding only shaves off a few degrees and you risk destroying your CPU if you do it incorrectly.

just get a better CPU cooler and use good thermal paste
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>>378888638
>10 seconds of no auto attacks
not saying casting Holy spirit won't be a gain in dps but being in SO won't mean anything those 10 seconds
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>>378892545
>said tail is hidden on 95% of the armor
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>>378892550
>someone would have noticed already
Everyone noticed when the reddit thread about the japo tooltip popped up. It's already been talked to death about both here and there
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>>378892315
It's actually pretty common for bunny girls to lack a bunny tail for whatever reason.
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>>378891465
>FFXIV primals in an img
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>>378890536
Delete this
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>>378892445
They should change Sole Survivor's effect to only be usable on enemies with less than 20% HP and the cooldown resets if the target dies while affected by it.
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>>378891767
Well except Au Ra.
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Let's take a minute to think about how stupid Viera would actually be in the context of this game.

>Dress up a viera in the manderville bunny suit
>They now have two sets of bunny ears and two tails
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>>378888638
They're disallowing more than one offGCD per GCD in combat in 4.0.
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>>378890534
At this point Yoshi saying "It could happen one day" is the same as saying no, but they just dont wanna flat out disappoint you.
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>>378892619
I was talking about the original Viera.
>>378892682
They weren't.
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>>378891176
>being a Yoshidrone
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>>378892251
Trick question, femroes are never good looking.
And no they look stupid.
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>>378892687
yes, and no one from the media tour noticed their damage randomly going up after using sole survivor, ok. Remember the issue is just the tooltip, not the skill.
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>>378892687
He means that if sole survivor had that effect it would have been seen in the various gameplay videos and dungeon previews in SB with a DRK tank. In none of those videos is there a drk trick attack seen anywhere.
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I bought an i250 GLA weapon when it was really cheap on the market board in case I'd need it to clear level restrictions but after I realized you can just spam PvP for i235 gear I can't decide whether to sell it for profit or not

Is i235 weapon even going to be good enough to hold aggro

>realize now that the weekly cap has been raised I should probably be spamming roulette for tomes instead of PvP anyways except for wanting dem glamours
Fuck
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>>378892785
It's no more stupid than miqo'te wearing the bunny ears and having two sets of ears.

It's actually why I stopped being a miqo'te because it looked stupid.
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>>378892778
It's confirmed that male Au Ra are the ones that give birth though, like seahorses. So it's not as bad as it could be.
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>>378892785
They already added Cait Sith ears Miqo'te can wear. This would simply be the next step.
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>>378892818
>Wanting a new copy-paste race and have the game suffer another 6 month draught
Yeah, fuck off.
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>>378892703
Reisen is depicted with a tail in pretty much all non-ZUN illustrations, though. It's like Momiji and her dog ears.
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>>378892785
Let's take a minute to think about how stupid Catgirls would actually be in the context of this game.

>Dress up a catgirl in the cait sith ears
>They now have two sets of cat ears
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>>378892902
N-NANI?!
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>>378892845
>>378892840
The japo tooltip comes from a more recent build. Famitsu had a more recent version than the media tour
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>>378892840
>>378892845
Yeah because people use Sole Survivor on targets that aren't about to fucking die right?
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>>378892937
I'd say it's 50/50 for fan art.
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>>378889805
What wrong with that?
you make more money, what wrong with making money?
Game is a luxuries afterall
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>>378892896
>>378892952
I know, and it looks fucking stupid. It would be alright of the bunny suit didn't have a rabbit tail, so you could just choose not to wear the bunny hood and it would still fit.
But this would be even more redundant.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BxyODRq3n0

>it
Why people disrespect lalas so much
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>>378889805
"""problem"""
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>>378892997
OK and? The JP tooltips are filled with errors still too see >>378891258
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>>378886548
t. FFXIV 1.0 shitter
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I WANT A BIG ROE BF!!
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>>378893146
you're ironically supporting lalafell but that ok keep the lala hates rising. I want that
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>>378893183
So 1 error that exists in both English and Japanese?
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>>378893182
Requiring new players to play 100 hours of fetch quests and talk to X NPC in order to play with their friends is a problem, yes. This is a multiplayer game, after all.

Level sync exists and you go can go back and help your buddies to get through the story, yeah, but it doesn't work in the other direction like in other MMOs.
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>>378893226
Whos askin?!
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>>378892657

You can autoattack while casting. I do it as melee for an extra bit of dps when I have to lb something.
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>Feast 4v4
>we get steamrolled
>somehow turn the tides and get 90% medals
>we're at our spawn
>MNK comes to us
>we try to kill it, but of course BLM and AST come up too
>then WAR
>we die
>other group barely wins
FUCK THIS FUCKING SHIT FUCK FUCK FUCK
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>>378892902
>male Au Ra are the ones that give birth though, like seahorses

the male seahorse carry the eggs the female just layed, they don't give birth to anything
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>>378892972
Yeah, the devs for this game are huge degenerates.
They even told a story about a "standoff" they had between Yoshi P and another dev I forget which one about how thick to make Minfilia's thighs, because they were worried that people would know their fetishes. So they compromised instead.
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>>378889805
I do think 2.0 and 2.x needs to be pruned but I think it's fair they have to pay extra if they want to be lazy and skip all that. Laziness has its price.
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>>378890534
I've said this shit for years about their hand/feet, they ain't ever gonna make them playable.
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>>378890937
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>>378888373
>Give reason me why are you still playing this game when you know you'll be disappointed in SB anyway?
I can still look past my jade and find fun in the game. I'll probably take more breaks during content lulls this time around tho.
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>All those weeb SAM skill names
Imagine having to explain SAM rotation to people.
It'd be like Madara Uchiha copypasta.
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>>378893428
depends on how you define "birthing"
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>>378893464
Holy fuck those are ugly as sin. I seriously hope they don't add this atrocity to the game.
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>>378893447
It's just poor design to have more than half of this multiplayer game locked behind a predominantly single player experience.
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>>378893456
They will after PS4 drop.
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>>378893538
Or you could just abbreviate it like you do every other skill and rotation in the game.
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>>378893272
Red Mage's impact is wrong in japanese too.
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>>378893226
Roe boyfriends are the best
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>>378892845
The stench of desperation is pretty thick here.

Tell me, why would anyone playing at a media event think to just start throwing Sole Survivor around at things when the description is unchanged from the current version? And if they did, what makes you think that they'd notice a modest 10% increase in their own damage, especially when SS is currently almost only ever used on one enemy in a large pack, with damage numbers flying everywhere?

DRK has Trick Attack, get used to it. It's HW DRG vs MNK all over again.
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>>378893602
only if I get glamour log first.
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>>378893569

It's an RPG MMO. Not a pseudo brawler MMO.
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>>378893464
Pointless to add Elezen with bunny ears when you can do that ingame already.
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>>378893662
Prove it
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>>378893643
>ywn have a big burly roe to keep you warm at night
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>>378893708
Catplayers don't want to play elezen as they are because "ewww necks and limbs".
Slap Viera on the race name with bunny ears and you'll have those same people buying fantasia by the truckload.
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>>378893739
Gonna have to wait another two weeks.
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>>378891807
Fucking this
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>>378893569
It's a game that takes pride in its story and everything in the game revolves around said story. Honestly, people that don't care about the story shouldn't be playing. Which is fine because not every game can be everyone's cup of tea.
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>>378893464
Fucking furries want to taint everything they can get their hands on. We already have cats for fucks sake, we absolutely don't need rabbits.
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>>378893560
They wont, Au Ra ended up looking nothing like the concept art.
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>>378893890
Honestly you shouldn't be playing
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>>378893219
>shitter
He says while defending this anti-social casual game.
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>>378893851
Viera are just as lanky and long necked.
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>>378893602
That's not the problem. It's the effort to remodel gear to fit their unique limbs.
Honestly they should just save the effort and just improve on the existing races.
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>>378892902
>Male prego.
I'm fujo and I love this shit.
>>378893226
Roe are the worst choice for Bara idoling.
Either scuffy Highlander or Aura
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>>378893936
great come back desu
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>>378888004
Yeah or like adding a skill for monk that pushes the enemy out of their small range
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>>378893226
I want a big roe gf
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>>378893538
it's too late to turn back now faggot
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>>378893890
I think the MSQ is great. I just think it should be optional.
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>tfw DRKs will be proven useless in just under two weeks
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>>378891807
This. Our game has ZERO degeneracy! Let's keep it that way!
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>>378892902
Source?
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>>378894057
>fujoshit thinks his opinion matters
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>>378894181
indeed!
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Do you have to finish HW MSQ to access the new classes?

Like with finishing ARR to get the DRK, MCH and AST?
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>50 roulette
>17 dungeons
>60 roulette
>11 dungeons
>70 roulette
????????
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>>378894169
The developers clearly disagree.
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>>378893226
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>>378893340
ME!!
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>>378894239
xivg is a scary place.
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>>378894269
No, you just need to have a class at 50
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>>378894269
No. RDM and SAM will be in ARR areas.
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>>378894269
No just a level 50 don't even need ARR story done
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>>378894181
>Zero
>Miqo'te, the most degenerate race for both boy and girl exists
>Then there's Au Ra who are just lesser catwhores
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>>378892902
Explain yourself.
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>>378894349
thank fucking god

only reason I got the expansion was SAM
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>>378894179
The funny thing about it all is that DRK beats WAR even without Sole Survivor, but SE probably gave it to them anyway.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G04uDGrfmBc
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>>378894351
You're like the world's revenge on sarcasm.
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>>378893146
wait girls play this mmo? i thought mmos were for neckbeard losers?
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>>378894319
Okay where do I sign up?
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>>378894351
the last thing is getting a bigger extreme
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>>378894309
roe x lala is best pairing whatever genders
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>>378894309
>Roe x Hyur
How's the sex like?
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>>378887219
AST in 3.0 couldn't.
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>>378894225
(You)
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>>378894439
Oldschool MMOs were for neckbeard losers. Themeparks are for casuals which include all sorts of genders and crazies.
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>>378894398
This is an important matter, buddy.
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>>378894501
>>378894501
>>378894480
ah, fuck, i mistook that other as a lala because of the neckerchief
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>>378894390
Stop posting this bootleg merri
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>tfw you started playing before the PLD changes to give Shield Oath at 30
I have made a huge mistake.
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Eastcuck here, checked my ping through what I believe is the correct method and still only have 85ms, can someone confirm "ping 204.2.229.9" is how to check it?
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>>378894619
Only a turboshitter wasn't able to heal Gordias as AST
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>>378894389
Based on what? The potency on bloodspiller is barely better than fell cleave you can't spam it as much and you don't get WAR's damage buffs. What could you be basing DRK beating WAR off of?
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>>378894390
>this is in my youtube recommendation now
As bad as gil spammer.
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>>378894501
You could cut the testosterone in the bedroom with a knife
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>>378894649
what separates a oldschool mmo from a non oldschool mmo?
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>>378894390
Pretty decent. Like him way more than Happy and MTQ
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>>378894662
Im surprise there are as much roe x lala as there are cat x lala in Japanese artist circle.
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>>378894727
In the same way only a complete retard in 2.0 couldn't tank with WAR.

Honestly the 2.0 "WAR WUZ SHIT" meme gets overblown and it's one of my biggest pet peeves. The job was subpar for like 3 months and we still have to hear about it almost 4 years later.

AST wasn't even meta for a year and three months.
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>>378894695
204.2.229.9 is the IP address for Aether so yes that's correct.
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>>378894856
Larry tries too hard to be funny. Many of his "Basically __" videos go on too long, beating a dead horse of a joke that's already been worn out.
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>>378894852
Forced socializing to even ding lvl10.
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>>378894874
>tfw not much male au ra x f lala art
>tfw you will never get a shoulder ride from your male au ra husband
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>>378893538
That's the future you chose, now we're all gonna have to deal with it.
The census figures and especially the weeaboo figures and stats are going to be fun.
Will there be an exodus to SAM from either the tanks or the NINs?
What will be the proportion of Kirito/Uchiha/Strife/etc weeaboos that'll have unlocked or have SAM to 70?

Now if only this month's DB on XIVCensus wasn't corrupted
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>>378895031
Well I'm on Primal but the difference should be negligible. I was panicking since I haven't been on for weeks but 85 is fine, anyway thanks.
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>>378894856
I don't like how he talks like a retard. He treats the audience as if they are 8 years old and it's not funny.
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FUCK OFF LUNA CAELUM
JUST FUCK OFF
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>>378895163
Yeah. He's hard to listen to because he talks in retardese. It's not entertaining.
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>>378895106
Exodus to SAM from DRG and DRK
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>>378895098
I know two, just have to dig real hard in twitter. No one even use pixiv anymore sadly.
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>>378892478
>>378892641
Doesn't seem to be the case according to Lv 70 PLD previews

>>378892657
No, you'll only halve your autoattack rate, as Holy Spirit is only a 2s cast, so you'll get your autos out every other cast.

>>378892743
agreed

>>378892786
source?

>>378894759
Bloodspiller is on a 15s CD with TBK, and it doesn't lose any potency in Grit either
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>>378894390

>flaytchay

déclenché
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>>378895098
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>>378895106
I was denied with NIN.
I won't be denied with SAM.
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>>378892902
>It's confirmed that male Au Ra are the ones that give birth though, like seahorses.

No it fucking isn't, you lying piece of shit, where the fuck did you get this from? It says the women give birth in the lore book.
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>>378884940
What are the top 3 most effective solo classes that are still viable in late game raids?
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>>378895313
>grab tail
>he doesn't immediately orgasm and submit to the overwhelming sensation of pleasure

HAS MY CHINESE CARTOONS LIED TO ME?!
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>>378888373

I just need something to kill time until uni starts
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>>378895456
SMN, SAM, MNK
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>>378895106
I leveled all the HW classes, I'll do the same with the SB classes.
Red Mage looks more fun though.
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>>378895086
You're forced to socialize to do lv15 in this game so it's not that much worse
>>
Does anyone else wish there was effort put into the open world, its relevancy, difficulty, size, exploration value and the general quality and quantity of settlements, landmarks etc?
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>>378894439
Girls play MMOs because they are easy as fuck and strength is scaled based on time investment mostly. There's not a very high skill threshold for most of it and fashion.
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>>378895125
You can't double weave at 85.
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>>378895626
if this was a sandbox mmo sure but this is a themepark mmo so no.
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>>378895626
I wish open world game design was actually fun and not terrible.
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>>378895340
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>>378895626
Yes. Very dearly.
More than half the game's landmass was removed with ARR. And I understand half the reason they did it was for consoles, but it's sad.

I really hope SB's zones are enormous and full of small detail.
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>>378895340
They're right about Clemency costs, though.
>lvl 60 clemency: 2121 mp
>lvl 60 PLD mp pool: ~5900
>lvl 70 clemency: 1440 mp
>lvl 70 PLD mp pool ~7000
You'll end being able to cast it 4 times before running out of MP versus the current two. Due to spell mp scaling, if they didn't reduce it, lvl 70 clemency would end up costing 2900 MP.
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PLD LOOKS SO FUCKING GOOD THIS EXPAC

NO MORE SHALL THEY CALL ME THE FAGGOT WITH THE SHEILD

Seriously though, Im kinda excited to play PLD in Stormblood.

How do the BRD mains feel about the changes? Im considering leveling one after I get PLD to 70
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>>378895626
This isn't GW2.
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>>378895718
You can't double weave unless you have 50ms, basically JP player tier ping.
>>
>puts random videos together and talks like a child
>over 10k views

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G04uDGrfmBc
>>
>8v8 Feast with a combined 1 healer
Why
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>>378895626
Like what
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>>378895830
it's just him shilling on reddit and refreshing the video page everytime there's a new comment
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>>378895750
This trait is fucking ridiculous.
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>>378895626
they could do more with it, but it's so much better than what we had in 1.0, i often wished we'd see NPCs back then just roaming the areas, with dialogue etc.

I like seeing the few here and there with text baloons and wander off now in the game.

Can definitely push it more, but at least these maps feel alive compared to before
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>>378893146
Zepla a cute.
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>>378895870
>ever going healer in 8v8s
dishonorable
healing is a crutch that only bad players need
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>>378895789
>How do the BRD mains feel about the changes?
I don't want to have a relearn the class for a third time.
But otherwise, thematically and aesthetically I like it much more as of right now.
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>>378895750
>>378895765
I think we've misunderstood each other, I was always under the impression that Clemency AND Holy Spirit cost 1440 MP at Lv 70, which was an overall casting cost buff

The trait is just to explain that + PLD is uninterruptable during casting
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>>378895626
>>378895884
Well they've already made a huge leap forward in making water submersible. That removes half the need to put invisible walls everywhere. I'm just afraid they'll halfass it and only a few select areas will allow you to actually swim around, like Costa del Sol.
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>work hard as a new arrival in Ul'dah, even saving the disguised Sultan and getting her crown back
>after a long and arduous effort I become worthy of wearing the title Sultansworn
>even beat Raubahn in a 1v1 Final Destination style match, proving myself the Superihyur Male
>still don't get to follow Nanamo around and carry her on my arm/shoulder all day
This is fucking stupid. I hate the Scions, why can't Yoshi realize no one likes these guys? And fuck the Ala Mhigger cry babies too while we're at it. Favour system when?
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>>378895721
Fucking this.
Open world is a lost cause.
Want difficulty and actual shit to do? Drop the size and "exploration" aka tilt stick/press W toward destination. There is a reason the HW areas have even less to do in them than the ARR areas.
>>
I just hit 56 in mining, and the guide i'm following said in some vague way that i've unlocked 'scrips'

When i google around, they say the NPC next to Rowenas in Mor Dhona should have a quest for me called Go West or something but they don't. Have i unlocked some lower 'tier' of scrips or something?

The guide says i unlocked 'Light Kidney Ore / A. Rock Salt tier appears – it’s TIME to GET SCRIP!' - does that mean that i get scrips when i mine these new timed nodes or something?

what are scrips even used for/earned anyway?
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>>378895757
It wasn't because of consoles, it's because 1.0 areas were fucking trash garbage. They actually added landmass with 2.0 unless you count the extra 90% of every 1.0 zone that was a literal copypaste of one tile as landmass and not a fucking slog
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>>378885365
Because of SMN bitching, now SCH have to suffer.
It's unfair.
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>>378895926
not really, it's just
>clemency and holy spirit are half cost
>PLD cannot be interrupted during casting via damage taken

it's worded like it's some half-cost proc on damage taken, though, which would be super cool but hard to program

>>378895789
Did you see the sprinting anim?

https://youtu.be/yNRzCnCF2lo?t=14s
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I give up
Does parentages affect growth?
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>>378896260
The Go West quest is when you're 60.

At 56 collectibles will start giving blue scips. You won't be able to collect red ones till 60.
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>>378888638
>shield lob
>goring blade

I dont understand. If this is suppose to be an MT opener you are going to lose aggro so fucking fast.

Cut out the shield lob and just assume the DRK pulls. DRK is going to have a rotation where it dumbs all of its MP at the start with a dark arts powerslash and then Delirium for max MP.
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>>378893464
They were already over their heads in work trying to make all the armor fit the new race models, so they pretty much picked the body types of the "most attractive" and just added new heads, and animations, so they dont have to do too much work on prior armor sets, and the new sets.

There's no way they would make a race which is too drastically different than current races, like with this pictures feet. It's too much work they arent willing to do.
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>>378896343
Your chocobo's stats is randomly decided based on your parents.

Your chocob interrupted father's speed, mother's acceleration, endurance and stamina and father's cunning.
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>>378892785
>This one race looks silly in this one piece of glamour armor so therefor they shouldn't be in the game
????
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>>378896151
>still don't get to follow Nanamo around and carry her on my arm/shoulder all day
But anon, you can get Nanamo to follow YOU around and carry her on your shoulder all day (or head if you are a lala).
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>>378896343
no only the own stars count for your stats, parent stats are only for the next gen
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>>378896435
*inherited
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>>378896448
There's a myriad of reasons Viera shouldn't be in the game, but I thought it was a notable instance of redundancy. Redundancy that, admittedly, cats suffer as well.
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>>378896390
It's theoretical, yes

If this was an MT pull, you'd start in Shield Oath with Halone, then swap to Sword, Scorn/Spirits, apply Goring, then Req. Shirk may be a huge tank utility as well, on top of everyone have Quelling, even melee
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>>378895721
>>378896254
Yoshi said that in SB they were going to add 'different things to do' in the open world, so we're probably going to see new types of FATEs and shit. I wouldn't be surprised if they copied WoW's world quest system.
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>>378896467
But can I fuck it?
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>mog slippers don't make moogle noises when you walk
wasted potential
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>>378896509
So it is good enough, too bad about the cunning
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>>378896635
>walking along in your mog slippers
>ku-po-ku-po-ku-po-ku-po
>jump
>ku PO
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>>378896646
Still good enough to clear all the chocobo challenge logs and beat R 300 with breeze.
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>>378896635
>Enter duty
>See this as my tank
>Leave
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This game is a really special piece of garbage
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How's DRG looking?
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>>378896357
And what do i do with Blue Scrips?
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>>378896808
I thought so too until I reached level 40
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>>378896879
Pretty good.
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how fucked am I looking for static for 2 people, one of which has good fflogs record and another has nothing? Most people have retarded req of a12s kill nowadays, probably should wait for SB to actually go live?
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>>378896808
Thanks for your input
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>>378896613
What's the WoW world quest system? Also, got the idea that FATES in SB would be timed, like NM, so they only pop every now and then but would give more pay offs so people would bother to do them.
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>>378886323
>mfw Bard main
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It's so good when you have a premade on your team coordinating shit.
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>>378896923
Save them until you're level 60.
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>>378897005
>probably should wait for SB to actually go live?
That's what I'm doing. Just going to bank on hitting EA hard, gear up pre-raid BiS quickly, and hope somebody will pick me up from there.
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>>378897005
You could always make your own static.
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What's the Onyxia Wipe Animation of XIV?
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>378896808
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>>378897071
>What's the WoW world quest system?
Fates that can give good gear.
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>>378897005
no one will take couples, it only ever ends up being a liability

everything's changed in 2 weeks, just play SB and see what options open up
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>>378896563
That seems really gay because you would be taking a lot time to actually do your DPS, where the DRK can use their bloodsplitter without taking a loss in DPS due to how it works.

it might be better to just frontload your DPS first as a PLD and only voke when you need to. Especially since you can intervent and cover any damage the DRK MT will take.
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>>378896879
>greiskogul no longer consumes BotD timer, just has cooldown
>wheeling thrust and fang and claw procs are no longer random, each tied to a seperate combo finisher
>trait to use them one after another
>200 pot OGCD to use right after jumps
>also buffed jumps
Pretty good
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>>378897005
What server/DC are you on?
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>>378897169
ozma
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>>378897185
So like diadem.
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>>378897071
The WoW world quest system is copied from the D3 bounties system, and basically, quests pop up on a cooldown. You go marked areas and do the quests without talking to a quest giver NPC, and it gives you a reward for doing so.

>>378897185
They're similar to FATEs, yeah, the difference being that they're counted as endgame content and usually involve more than just battling.
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>>378896879
You get to count to 5 now instead of 4!
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>>378894057
You seriously think Au Ra is bara?
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>>378897243
Maybe, but PLD has to have a weakness somewhere. With a Shield Oath Lob + Fast Blade + Scorn + Spirits under Shadewalker + every DPS having Diversion, it could be just fine.
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>>378894057
>Au ra
>Good for anything
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>>378897402
she says she's a fujoshit, goes to show her level of knowledge
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/v/ I need to know; what makes this game so good? I want to give it a try but I don't really know what it's like or if I'll have a lot to do. I've played WoW since vanilla and I loved PvPing and World PvP; can I get a similar fix here? Failing that; are the classes fun and unique for PvE?
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>Garou helmet removes horns
>Garou pants don't remove tail
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>>378897402
>>378897456
they can be if the artist wish to draw them like that. I have plenty of those pict already.
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>>378896618
Depends on if Urianger made it
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>>378897243
Just take a WAR to do a huge enmity opener and Provoke when Requiescat's buff is over. Or let the WAR tank and spend your gauge on Intervention.
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>>378897071
at max level you have random quests spawned everywhere in the world every 6 gours and last for something like 24 hours. They give you random rewards - gear, money, etc. Almost same thing as daily quests, just they are shown in the world and you can do them on arrival. Last zone of xlac is actually well made for questing, but doing it for more tgan one character becomes painful (xpac itself is not alt friendly overall).
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>>378896332
It's the opposite you ignorant swine.
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How much MGP have you all gotten for the event?
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>>378897164
No, not again, thanks.
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>>378897546
Just because someone draws something as bara doesn't mean the actual thing is bara.
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>>378897446
But then you would lose potency on Scorn and Spirits. You're also delaying your goring blade application by 3 whole GCDs. It also doesnt help that building oath in shield oath is significantly slower than building gauge in sword oath.

I really dont think you can justify PLD pulling bosses anymore. PLD seems to be going the direcction of 3.x WAR where it was brought to every comp but made to OT because its toolkit is better for OTing than MT.
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>>378897631
Fuck off, SMN are the biggest cry baby in the game.
And SCH have 0 reason to bitch around when our kit was so strong while having a good constant aoe damage too.
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>>378897667
you saving up for any possible SB gold saucer mounts? i've been wanting fenrir forever and i'm so close now, but wondering if i should hold off until SB
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>>378897691
I never said the the atcual thing is bara, I just said Aura can make a good bara. What's wrong with that?
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>>378897667
Maybe 20k? Dunno. I'm not really doing much with the event until tomorrow and have over 4 million anyways.
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>>378897852
yeah I figure they're bound to have some new stuff there so might as well stock up
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>>378897515
There is no world PvP, and I can't really compare XIV's instanced PvP with other "tab targeting" MMOs because I usually ignore this feature. I like most of the classes in this game, they are pretty enjoyable.
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>>378897515
Pretty good story
Can play every job on one character
Difficult raid content that feels satisfying to clear
Amazing soundtrack and cutscene presentation
Pure Final Fantasy fanservice. This game has so many things from other Final Fantasy games.
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>>378897792
>And SCH have 0 reason to bitch around when our kit was so strong while having a good constant aoe damage too.
Which is why both of us got nerfed you overpowered piece of shit.
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>>378897515
There's a free trial m8, it has no time limit now too.

You'll have a chance to try evey job up to level 35 except the ones added in the expansions.
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>>378897515
There's a free trial up to level 35.
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>>378897568
You're aware you cant use infuriate out of combat, right? WAR pulling with unchained openers isnt a thing unless you dont want to do DPS for at least a minute.
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Anybody else agree?
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>>378897542
That detail missing makes me so mad.
At the other hand it's funny that all pieces glamour with the armorer stone.
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>>378898116
>>378898103
>>378898031
>>378897997
Okay, thanks then guys I'll start downloading the trial to give it a shot. I haven't really played Final Fantasy games before though so I'm a little worried it won't make much sense to me
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>>378898154
>no more Steel Cyclone in cities
Stormblood looks worse and worse.
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>>378898187
SMN and SCH should have been split a long time ago.
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>>378898187
So if they change the icon to a fairy they will shut up?
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SAM and RDM start at level 1 right?
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>>378898154
A slightly weaker opener in exchange for a huge enmity lead is easily worth it. You can still do a 3 FC Berserk even if you use Infuriate for Unchained.
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>>378898031
Frequent content and QoL updates.
For the most part the developers do listen to the community.
A crazy amount of content and things to do.
The in-game community is pretty friendly. Compared to other games, the toxicity isn't that bad.
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>>378898187
I'm this anon >>378886249

I saw a summoner in XI with shiva summoned and thought that was fucking awesome. XIV SMN is so stupid in comparison. Less dots more summons.
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>>378898187
then what job should be dot base?
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>>378898329
Level 50
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>>378898274
You don't have to play previous Final Fantasys for it to make sense. It's mostly fanservice and references if you played previous titles.

Think of how you don't need to play the RTS Warcraft games to make sense out of WoW.
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>>378897852
>but wondering if i should hold off until SB
Always wait when close to patches/expansion with these things. Fenrir might get cheaper or not. Or we get a better Fenrir even.

You never know.
>>
When do the new EU servers get added? Looking to go to a new frontier.
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>>378898187
Arcanist was a mistake, if they're not gonna get rid of the class system then they should at least split SCH. They won't, though.

with summoner the devs need to decide if they wanna copy WoW warlocks or do more with the summoner concept, not the weird half-assery we're getting in stormblood. Add more things like Bahamut but useable more often and less powerful, if they wanna go that route.
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>>378898378
Bard
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>>378898329
Both start at 50 Only requirement is to have a level 50 job to unlock. Both jobs are unlocked in a 2.0 area, you don't even need to have the MSQ finished either.
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>>378897667
Like 100k maybe, just from doing challenge log. Not really into it that much.
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>>378898437
yeah, it;s not like it'll be going anywhere, i;m just glad i'm finally close to my goal.
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>>378895884
I at least want various open world dungeons and leves to be relevant again. Back in 1.0 leves at least were relevant due to rewarding glamour and it was also important to finish the relic weapon.
Open world dungeons could be the new way of getting tomestones while instanced dungeons can get a better treatment.

Exploration value affects from difficulty and the open world sightseeing. In 1.0 the points of interests had paths that were ridden of high level monsters, which encouraged people to fight away and please their curiosity. Difficulty to traverse places can also be done with going from one city to another, really. This isn't really that important and people might not like it but it'll be interesting to have at least.

And for the general open world design, honestly they've done a good job with ARR at least. It had a bunch of settlements for each region although small. I wish next time they make settlements more larger and more detailed to make it feel more like a town, or just add more than just 2 in a zone. Just cosmetic, really.
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do you think they'll stop instancing literally everything since PS3 support is gone
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>>378898187
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>>378898187
How will SCH do damage then? They'd have to completely go back and make up spells for ACN to use. Something unaspected and obscure like Painflare is for example, but weaker.
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>>378897728
Maybe, but 3 GCDs to secure aggro before doing your burst isn't a big loss compared to DRK losing their MP + generating no MP with Power Slash, let alone WAR losing half their gauge or more with Defiance + Infuriate + Unchained
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>>378898438
when stormblood comes out
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>>378898586
PS4 limitations, prease undaastando
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>>378898586
Not a chance.
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>>378898586
there will be less loading screens in areas but instancing is what literally makes modern MMOs possible. hundreds of thousands of people play on 1 server compared to less than 1000 back in the 90s MMOs.
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>>378898586
No. It's a design decision not a technical limitation. It's to help cut down load times.
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>>378898653
>DRK losing MP
>DRK generating no MP

Delirium Nigger. You WANT to go to near 0 MP so you can go back up to full with an extended blood weapon after you Delirium and go to work with the DPS you're about to output.
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>>378898468
There's a good chance 5.0 will completely axe classes. YoshiP has talked about it before.
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>>378898796
They should just do the transition corridors they did with 1.0 2bh
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I'm a bit sad we won't get to see this smug bastard anymore

Also RIP Papalymo
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>>378898971
S L O P P Y
L
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P
P
Y
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>>378898912
They won't, really. The closest thing they can do to that is make classes to jobs permanently if you got their job stone.
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>>378899021

A L A

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>>378898971
>Also RIP Papalymo
I don't trust XIV to kill anybody *important* off and keep them dead.
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>>378898971
>Papalymo
Who?
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>>378899060
I have a feeling they will remove classes by the time 5.0 roles around. 5.0 seems like the perfect expansion to revamp the leveling of old areas.
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>>378899152
Why not? Louisoux has been dead since ARR's launch.
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>>378899021
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>>378898896
Maybe, that's a good point. We'll have to examine how a Delirium-extended Blood Price will interact with DRK's resources during a pull
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>>378898971
we'll see his ghost don't worry.
if we end up fighting shinryu, there may be a human form phase like nidhogg.
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>>378898154
You mean 2 minutes. Unchained shares a cooldown with Inner Release.
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>>378899271
He turned into Phoenix and was controlled by Bahamut. Is he really dead?
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