Xbox E3 2014: Rise of the Tomb Raider - Timed exclusive Project

the FUTURE is augmented reality

>>378847326
>The MCC - Launched broken and remained so forever

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>>378847326
It lost because of shit launch, exzclusives wise it's done better.

>>378847471
What am I looking at? All I see are Forza, Halo and Gears iterations which have individually sold worse than the titles outlined under PlayStation.

Making an argument for Xbox's exclusives when your examples pertain to the same three saturated franchises the platform has relied on for years isn't a great defense, especially when two fo the three have sold considerably worse compared to their previous installments.

>>378847975
> Forza, Halo and Gears
Although they haven't done aswell recently, halo is still easily the most popular out of everything on ps4/xbox.

>>378847471
If you include all the PS4 exclusives that sold 2 million you would also have more than 3.

>>378848204
No its not.

Halo is as dead as Fable. 343 killed the franchise for everyone but the 30 "pro" gamers who suck at everything else

>>378848204
Uncharted 4 sold more than Halo 5

Halo glorious days are gone

>>378849395
>Uncharted 4 sold more than halo and gears combined
Jesus this is a slaughter.

>>378847471
Eh kinda. If you include things like Persona 5 then not really. The thing is PS4 is getting things that "aren't exclusives' like P5 and Nier: Automata that aren't technically exclusive but are not out on the Xbone either.

>>378847471
>Halo
>GOW
>Halo
>GOW
>forza
>Halo
>Forza

Wew lad.

>>378847471
Bring the Master chief collection to PC.

>>378848204
>easily the most popular out of everything on ps4
Didn't Horizon outsell Halo?
Halo is in a bad state, bro.

>>378851426
>Horizon
No, Uncharted did.

>>378851426>>378849741
>>378849395


Not him but uncharted was the cheapest way to buy a ps4 in the uk (and probably globally).

If I had to guess the most popular exclusive with normies out of everything on the ps4 and xbox, I'd expect it's still halo by a hair. Used to be halo by miles though.

>>378850312
It's actually just Forza Forza Forza at the end.

But hey man, when a company only has 3 good IPs, what do you expect.

>>378851682
Halo is not popular any longer. Destiny is Halo now, sad to say.

Mismanaging a brand can have dire consequences.

See also: Mass effect Andromeda.

>>378851682
Still wrong. Uncharted 3 on Ps3 sold more than Halo 5 by like 2 mil

>>378851992
Destiny was one of the biggest flop ever.

>>378851992
Only talking about exclusives on the ps4/xbone. It's obviously not as big as cod/fifa/gta or exclusives on other platforms like battlegrounds, but I expect it's still the main one on ps4/xbone.

They need to start getting things out the door rather than telling their teams and partners to drastically change shit at the last moment

>>378852012

Actual normie exclusive ranking right here

>ULTRA popular (mainly since they're free or low requirements)
League, Dota, CS go, minecraft, hearthstone

>very popular
Battlegrounds, civ, halo 3 in the past, zelda

>popular
halo now

>a few people care about them
uncharted, gears of war, forza

>>378852053
Destiny sucked, but it sold like 15 million copies or something.

It is now Halo.

>>378852012
Was talking about halo3/reach. Nothing was as big as those back in the day, tehy were the same tier as cod.

>>378852378
Reach was a huge drop off from 3. it was absolutely demolished by COD.

>>378852368
>a multiplatform game is now Halo

>>378847326
>The MCC - Launched broken and remained so for months

If MCC ever gets a PC release it's over for XBone. Microsoft is probably thinking whether it's worth it or not at this point.

>>378852524
Whou would get it on Windows 10?

>>378852307
>Halo above Uncharted
You're wrong. People I know who don't even own a current gen system (or sometimes even a system at all) ask me about Uncharted when they hear I have a PS4. They also, of course, bring up The Last of Us.

The market has completely passed by MS titles at this point.

>>378852586
Microsoft has backed themselves into a corner by bringing their games to PC but then proceeding to make the PC experience of downloading, managing and running these games fucking traumatizing. The Windows store is such ass and having to juggle between a separate Xbox app is a pain. Now there's no point in owning an Xbox but nobody wants to bother with their games on PC either.

>>378847471
>3 Forza games on that pic

My buddy works at Microsoft up in Seattle and I straight asked him if I should be excited this year. He said no.

>>378847326
How do Xbots even exist still?

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Curious about this

>>378853032
Console sold 30 millions
Recent Xbox game pass was successfull too

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This motherfucker right here tanked the brand. Who needs games when you have motherfucking waggling

>>378847326
Can't wait to see ReCore in 4K

Sonuggets btfo

>>378852442
Halo has lost its share of the market and more importantly, the mindshare. It is no longer synonymous with sci-fi or even with FPS for the casual. Destiny fills this role. And Halo will continue to stay niche or be shelved altogether.

>>378849395
There's more than twice PS4 sold than Xbones, proportionally speaking Halo 5 sold better amon their userbase than Uncharted 4.

>>378847326
Don't forget
>We Happy Few - most well-recieved game at MS E3 2016, trailer ended up being massively misrepresentative

>>378853058
Nobody has a 4k TV, Scorpio and Pro are bombing

>>378853164
ReCore was disappointing

>>378853315
Xbone is 900p. Scorpio will looks better even on 1080p TVs.

>>378852803
Yeah my dad works at nintendo and said pretty much the same thing. Microsoft's conference is dead on arrival.

>>378852524
The only time casuals mention Halo they literally say "yeah I heard it sucks now, so whatever". The series is done.

>>378853139
You say that, but what exactly has Phil done to get it back on track? Closing half of their studios? Doubling down on multiplayer titles? Failing to have oversight of studios like 343i which have killed Halo, putting someone in place to facilitate Scalebound's development, cancelling an already finished game in the form of Fable Legends? Fuck, I like Phil. He's far more charismatic and seems to actually care about games. But from my perspective, all he's done is can Kinect and pushed for a more powerful console. I'm not sure how being hardware focused is any better than being media focused; the missing component of both are the games. I just want good fucking games. It's been three years since Phil took over. Aside from the closed studios and cancelled games, what doe he have to show for it? Recore? Don wasn't the only motherfuck over at Xbox.

>people ask for exclusive games on Xbox
>Then they don't support them at all
Everyfucking time

I'm so glad I have gotten PS4. The only thing not on PS4 I'd like to play is Forza Horizon and that I can play on my PC.

When choosing console I was really thinking about Xone because of Kinect. Fitness app and social Kinect games appealed to me. Turns out, they didn't release any new games since then and Fitness app was killed off.

What a joke of a console. Instead of announcing games to rescue it they announce Scorpio.

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>>378853058
Nobody cares about Battlefront, it's for kids, and kids do not have 4K televisions.
The Scorpio is a hilarious misstep for MS, since it will lead people to believe it is a "next gen" Xbox. this will cause them problems. I'm expecting Wii U tier branding saturation but without Mario titles to pick up the slack.

>"Xbox U? Is that like, the new one? Or do I hook it up to that fucking scam TV Box I threw in the closet a few years ago? Isn't there a fucking camera or some shit? Fuck the Xbox U."

>>378847326
Where's my dragons dogma 2? And don't give me that Chinese knock of malarkey.

>>378853414
I have a Pro, it looks better than normal PS4. It's still not selling.

>>378853814
> they announce Scorpio.
And it was a fukin good idea for me.

>>378853058
They literally say something along those lines every single time.

>>378853139
Pretty much. He destroyed the Xbox brand with that one conference to the point where it's possible it might never recover.

>>378853172
>>378853249
Halo has been in decline even by the time Reach was released. What I think killed it was CoD. And even if Bungie was till making them it would have not been as successful as Halo 3 was but them leaving certainly didn't help.

>>378853315
They were a dumb idea to begin with. They'd be better off waiting a year or two and release a new console that's fully backwards compatible. Having all games required to run on the old and the new is certainly not going to be a game changer. And VR barely has any proper games yet.

>>378853669
The most popular games have been mulitplatform for a while now. The main reason why people pick one platform over another is because their friends have the same one. And Xbox killed itself with that reveal.

>>378853937
Who is Scorpio even aimed at? The people who want to buy an Alienware computer but can't afford one? No PC enthusiast is ever going to replace their PC with a console. And all games have to work on both Xbone and Scorpio so is there really a reason to upgrade? I feel like they're trying to cater to the PC market but it just doesn't make any sense to me.

List of supported 4k
>Forza Motorsport 7
>Crackdown 3
>State of Decay 2
>The new Call of Duty
>The new FIFA
>Madden
>Battlefront 2
>Middle Earth: Shadow of War
>Red Dead Redemption 2.

>>378847326
Sometimes I genuinely think something is destroying MS from the inside, and said thing is... doing the best damn job.

TThey've been fucking themselves over with a dangerous efficiency since 2014

>>378854202
Scorpio will probably cost around 499$. What is the price of that "Alienware computer" that can do the same thing as the Scorpio?

>>378853949
Yeah that conference made me drop the Xbox brand forever. I even got a PS3 and PS4 and rebought most of the games that I could since then on sales and such. I actually love the PS3 and PS4 and they do not annoy me like my 360 did.

>>378854305
>https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/Investor/earnings/FY-2017-Q3/press-release-webcast
>Gaming revenue increased 4% (up 6% in constant currency)
Sure

>>378854305
>since 2014

>>378854305
I think you're referring to Xbox's management.

>>378853164
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmMACwPjTNk
Already a thing on PC

>MS spend a year and a half making the super-powerful Scorpio to fight the PS4 Pro
>End up realizing they should have copied the Switch instead and start surveying Xcucks about it

Whoopsy!

>>378854564
>GTX 1080
That graphic card alone cost around $549

>>378854324
That my point. An Alienware costs a few thousand bucks, it's an overpriced scam. But are there really that many people that buy them? And are the willing to give up the mouse and keyboard?

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>>378854605
Why would they copy the Switch when they have the Surface brand?
They even anounced the new one a week ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwWs2jIy4js

>>378854509
One in the same, and both shitty.

Yunno what that's insulting to Microsoft

>>378855183
>11% is from Xbox
>people think they will drop the brand anytime soon.

>>378855275
They might try to transform it tho and move it to PC. I can't imagine 11% is enough when you're dealing with hardware.

>>378854305
>doing the best damn job.
The shills are out in full force apparently.

>>378854773
lol nobody gives a fuck about the Surface or the brand, it is a complete failure

>>378855183
similar image for Sony?

>>378855451
What does % have to do with anything? You probably don't realize how big MS is

>>378855620
Do we live in the same world? Surface was a big success.

>>378855620
Then what makes you think people will give a fuck about a different MS portable system? They're not getting into the handheld/gaming tablet market with Xbox

>>378847405
So you think we're gonna get some silly video like project NATAL but for some XboxLens crap?

>>378855764
That's the point. And Xbox isn't a charity brand designed to make them look good and build up their reputation and public appeal. It's there to make them money and if it's not doing that effectively they're going to look for other ways to do that.

>>378854773
>surface-pro-1-penis

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>>378855481
Since when did people being the slightest bit optimistic about things you don't completely like anything become shilling?

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>>378855787
>was
not
>is

>>378855793
It's just be a Candy Crush machine anyway, there's no way they could get a single exclusive.

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>>378855648

I'm pretty sure MS has accepted failure, again, in the console race. Its obvious they're just banking on being the last man standing due to having more money to accept failure

>>378856097
They are doing a shit job, and the Xbox brand is on its deathbed.

>>378856343
Well they just announced the new one, there are rumors about Surface book 2 and phone.
Those shit are too expensive though

>>378856445
gonna be shit
can't wait to see it flop

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>Resistance is the new Halo killer
Nope
>Killzone is the new Halo killer
Nope
>Haze is the new Halo killer
Nope

>mfw Halo is the new Halo killer

>>378856662
In reality CoD was the Halo killer.

>>378856414

Just like Nintendo was supposed to die at least 15 times now?

Scorpio is their latest UWP / Windows App Store trojan horse. Xbox brand is being soft-retired, or rather, they're trying very hard to convert all of 'Windows Gaming' to an Xbox experience. GFWL 2.0, and this time it's for real.

>>378856764
>All that money and still no games.

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>>378856710
this is deep because 343 wanted Halo to be like CoD and is exactly why it burned

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>>378847326
>tfw still playing mcc daily and holding on for dear life
It actually works fine now, if only it had more people. What could have been man

>>378847441
I have nearly 56 days played in MCC. For the first four and a half months, then 6 months again last year. The first month I had a lot of trouble finding MP games, I got disconnected a lot, the MP was broken for sure. Around the beginning of 2015 I started getting games in every playlist, and quickly. I still got DC'd occasionally, mostly in a Halo 2 Anniversary or Halo 3 game. CE, 2 classic, and 4 seemed to work perfectly. When a game of 3 loaded, it ran perfectly too. I picked it up again May 2016 and went right back into the MP. I rotated between Big Team Battle, Halo 2 Anniversary, and Infection. I would still get disconnects every now and then when a Halo 2 Anniversary map got picked in Big Team which was infuriating because it's the best MP in the package. Team H2A had a low playercount but the games loaded about 95% of the time, and they ran great.

I never had a single issue with campaign or playlist and I bought the game day 1 I played the campaigns mostly in the first 2.

So, it's not broken for me and hasn't been for years.

>>378852524
>If MCC ever gets a PC release it's over for XBone.
A single game decide the fate of a console?

Post it

>>378856935
gt bro? I'm >>378856993

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>>378856928
Explain how Halo is now like COD, but without using ADS (because that's every game now) or advanced mobility (because it doesn't go nearly as far as any COD game)

>>378857361
Halo 5 Guardians is literally Call of duty: advanced warfare.

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>>378857489
What a convincing argument, you sure showed me!

>>378847326
Xbox is shit and has been shit for years. All their exclusives are casual normie games like Forza and they're not even exclusives since they port 90% of them to PC anyway. I have absolutely no reason to buy an Xbone when I have a gaming PC.

They push for cancerous business practices like DLC, microtransactions, and games as a service. They outright cancelled Scalebound because it was a singleplayer game and they couldn't find a good way to jew players.

>>378853058
I want to believe the guy but man.

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>>378858009
But if Microsoft owns the OS you use to play the games, don't they still win?

>>378858007
How about you play both games and see by yourself?

>>378858160
What makes you think I haven't?

>>378858078
Phil spencer is a liar.

>>378858135
They would be making more money if they gave people a reason to buy their $400 console instead of just playing everything on PC.

Xbone is a pure normiebox at this point.

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>>378857489
and COD is Halo :^)

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>>378858269
Isn't that their target audience, though?

Actually, I'm not sure there is any console that targets /v/ users, since I doubt any fulfills any standards that /v/ has set.

>>378857489
You could have said Halo 4 and won the argument, but no, you had to be retarded.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbWgUO-Rqcw

>>378858665

Halo 4 added loadouts and sprint, things that Call of Duty is credited for bringing to console first-person shooters. calling Halo 4 a COD clone is a ridiculous exaggeration.

>>378858665
If he said that I would have agreed with him but yeah he made a pretty poor choice.

>>378858765
>call of duty
>call of duty
>call of duty
>...
>call of duty move to PS4 with timed exclusive DLCs
Every fukin time

>>378847326
Xbox E3 the last 3 years has been exclusively vaporware outside of gears of war 4

>>378858856
But anon, the first sentence of your post proves the second sentence incorrect

>>378859148
How come Halo4 doesn't get credit for the Z-axis thrusters or faster kill times?
How come Reach or Battlefield don't get credit for naming our areas for us?
How come Destiny doesn't get credit for the ground pound or the running slide?
How come Battlefield doesn't get credit for team callouts?
How come Unreal doesn't get credit for sprinting.. Or naming areas for us?

>>378858339
halo sux tho

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>>378847471
that pic misses:
-bloodborne
-horizon
-death stranding
-nioh
-persona5
-god of war
-days gone
-gravity rush 1,2
-killzone:shadow fall
-infamous:second son
-attack on titan
-spiderman
-detroit:become human
-the last of us part 2
-yakuza
-let it die
-the last guardian
-journey

and a million other full ps4 exclusives that im not gonna bother writing all down.xbox fanboys are pathetic

>>378856873
This

>>378859353
>-bloodborne
Sold less than 3 million, that's why it isn't there.
>-horizon
Sold less than 3 million, that's why it isn't there. (2.6 million Worldwide)
>-death stranding
Not out
>-nioh
Sold less than 3 million, that's why it isn't there.
>-persona5
Sold less than 3 million, that's why it isn't there.
>-god of war
Not out
>-days gone
Not out
>-gravity rush 1,2
Sold less than 3 million, that's why it isn't there.
>-killzone:shadow fall
Sold less than 3 million, that's why it isn't there.
>-infamous:second son
Sold less than 3 million, that's why it isn't there.
>-attack on titan
Sold less than 3 million, that's why it isn't there.
>-spiderman
not out
>-detroit:become human
Not out
>-the last of us part 2
not out
>-yakuza
not out or sold less than 3 million
>-let it die
Sold less than 3 million, that's why it isn't there.
>-the last guardian
Sold less than 3 million, that's why it isn't there.
>-journey
Sold less than 3 million, that's why it isn't there.

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>>378858507
It's a spectrum Anon. Of course every company targets the mainstream, but companies like Sony and Nintendo still cater to the more hardcore as well.

For example, Sony revealed The Last Guardian, FFVII-R, and Shenmue 3 at E3 a few years back solely to cater to the more hardcore audience. Shenmue and The Last Guardian are far from mainstream hits, but they still funded those games regardless just for goodwill. Another example would be Sony funding Kojima's new studio and Death Stranding. Meanwhile, Microsoft funded a Platinum Games exclusive directed by Kamiya and fucking cancelled it because they couldn't find a could way to monetize a singleplayer game like it.

Sony and Nintendo still make and fund interesting games/exclusives that justify purchasing their consoles. Microsoft relies on almost entirely shitty AAA Western Third Party games like Destiny and Madden alongside their own derivative first party games like Halo, Gears of War, and Forza to sell console to normies. They've cancelled almost every single interesting exclusive this generation in favor of this strategy and push/support cancerous practices like DLC, microtransactions, and games as a service. They've been absolute fucking garbage since the turn of the decade and easily the worst out of the "Big 3".

>>378858856
Also XP-based unlocks, and changing the scoring system to 100 points per kill instead of 1. While CoD created none of these, including the previously mentioned aspects, they certainly popularized them. Thinking Halo (or at the very least, 4, since 5 differentiated itself well enough) didn't copy CoD is just ridiculous.

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>>378859567
>sales = quality

>>378859567
what about you compare sales on the xbox side on that chart.even their best selling games numbers are fucking pathetic.

>>378859754
I'm not the anon who posted that chart (i wouldn't believe VGchartz at all) but it stop after 3 million for PS4 if you look well, that's why they are not there.

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>>378859567
Go ahead and include 1.6 million and up for the PS4.

We can then parse out the 100 games compared to Xbox's 30.

>>378859754
>chart that lists games based on sales doesn't take quality into account
That's right, summerfag

>>378856764
Sony is worth $44.6 billion.

>>378856764
Go back to bed, Jamie Moran.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzDsYEPkSc4

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>>378850312
The strength of Sony is attracting more diversity and smaller games.

PlayStation always has something for everyone. Buying a PS4 is a safe bet that you'll have all the games for 5-10 years.

MS is now relying too much on their hardcore North American base.

>>378847326
Who has been more cucked? Microshits or Nintenbros?

>>378860767
Sonybro with the PS4 Pro

>>378860767

Microsoft 100%. They never recovered from when Sony came out, undercut their price and has a whole segment on sharing your games and not having to be online to play them. Now in 2017 I can't think of a single exclusive game for the console other than maybe Halo. Literally everything else is on PC.

>>378860762
Most of the hardcore have moved on, too. All they have left are the autismos who refuse to face reality.

>>378853315
Go to a store now and buy a non 4k TV.

4k TVs sell for 600 dollars now they are the new standard.

>>378861160
On Windows 10*

>>378847326
Xbox as a console is dead, its a PC service now. Dont waste money on Scorpio and buy a Switch or PS4Pro instead.

>>378861160
Oh man, I will never forget this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA

>>378861240
>$600
>no HDR
>high latency
>shit picture quality

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The Xbox brand never recovered from the Kinect years.

Just look at this, it makes Wii's waggle shit look like performance art.

>>378859567
every game on the Xbox side below Fifa 16 sold less than 3 million copies... so Gears 4, Forza 5, Horizon 3, Forza 6

>>378849343
You clearly dont know what youre talking about, Halo 5 is immensely popular. HCS like just ended i think, either that or it just started

>>378861236
I bet half the fuckers still on the Xbone are only there because "that's where their achievments and friends lists are"

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>>378861517
I miss the kinect shitposting days.

>>378861453
Cost 500€ with HDR in my country

>>378861426

It was such a superb ass blasting, even I couldn't believe it.

>>378861592
Go look up the venue and then come back and tell me how popular it was.

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>>378860767
The people who buy consoles at launch are the real cucks.

>>378861873
And grass is green. Tell us something we don't know.

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>>378861236
It's sad. I don't really hate Xbox.

Had a original X and a 360. Good times. Last gen the 360 was on top.

>>378861453
I've got a decent LG. But it's only 41 inch. Was 749 iirc.

Anyone who needs a new TV now will likely end up with 4k.

>>378861746
Can't wait to see how https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nlcdDNOdm8 will turn out

>>378861871
Halos twitch channel has 16 million total viewers, and last year the finals for HCS had upwards of 100,000 concurrent viewers, you don't need to sell out venues to be popular. Besides, H5 is making MS more money than they know what to do with. It has been he polar opposite of a failure in MS's eyes. Whether that's a good thing for consumers is another thing entirely, but MS isn't going anywhere.

>>378847326
Do they honestly expect scropio to bring them back? Feels too little too late and

>>378847326
Thier E3 2015 was good. It had some interesting things, games looked great and Microsoft was THIS close untill they've decided to no longer making exclusives.

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>>378862491
No. They thinks of the Scorpio just like Sony thinks of the PS4 Pro.

>>378862659
It's exclusive to Windows 10 now.

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It's always cute when the kids on /v/ larp as CEOs.

I don't understand Microsoft at all.

>>378861601
>playing with your friends is a bad reason to own a console
How does out feel to have no friends?

>>378847326
Mcc is still broken

>>378859310
>unreal
>sprinting
Having high movement speed isn't sprinting

>>378863004
Is it really?

>>378856993
It's broken in a sense it works but not like the original weapons do not spawn properly graphics have hiccups THATS what poeople mean by broken when there is a whole website listing the glitches of just halo 1 is embarising

>>378863004
E3 2017: MCC will be fixed

>>378863124
Yes, they just don't care about olders fans and are too busy focusing on bringing in new ones with Halo 5.

>>378852774
pretty much this

the store is basically where Origin was 3-4 years ago. Am I going to use your buggy, unintuitive and expensive walled garden for 1 game? No.

>>378863346
That's fucking crazy man. The one thing you can't fuck up and they totally did.

>>378863124
See when people say it's fixed now they mean you can get games now the games may not work properly with power weapons not spawning at the right times but you can get in who cares if the aim is off

>>378863004
It hasn't been broken for years now

>>378852307
>ASSFAGGOTS and hearthstone in top tier

stopped reading there. If you think this is true you're dilusional.

Top normie tier is GTA 5, COD and FIFA

>>378863124
Its playable for some people. Plenty of bugs but its playable.

>>378858765
The decisions Microsoft made with Xbone still baffles me.
Were they really that stupid?

>>378864224
https://twitter.com/joshingtonstate/status/545000766969114625?lang=en
They are all stupid and liars

>>378863728
>exclusive ranking
Although honestly league and dota are above cod/fifa, with battlegrounds being very similar to cod in popularity, ESPECIALLY when you consider it takes a supercomputer to run.

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>>378847326
What's with people thinking MS will announce no new games?

My bet is bought a shitton of 3rd party devs to make "exclusives" for them. Phil kinda confirmed that already though desu

>>378864628
http://www.pcgamer.com/why-scalebound-crackdown-3-and-quantum-break-arent-coming-to-pc/

Sure

>>378864628
We already know about every games they will show.

>>378863712
I consider sniper not spawning at the right time broke. It completely changes the way a map is played
But I guess getting games even if they are fucked counts as fixed

>>378849741

To be fair Sony bundle their games so much that you often have no choice but to get a game you don't want to get ther system. If you check amazon.co.uk Uncharted 3 which was bundled sometimes sells for £0.01 since everyone just traded it in.

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>>378861236
Mfw all my high school friends have moved on with their lives and nobody connects anymore. Watching my friend list is just fucking depressing. No more good old Halo 3.

>>378863124
I've never had any issues whatsoever with it but everyone on /v/ keeps insisting otherwise. I go to my friend's place and we play 4 player split screen on his xbone, never had any hiccups in custom games or matchmakig

>>378865386
That's fucking depressing and hits close to home. At least you still have us, anon.

>>378860767
Nintenbros getting cucked out of FF7 onwards because the n64 still used cartridges was pretty brutal.

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>>378847326

They don't honestly believe that just hyping up a stronger console will win them e3 will they?

Phil being vague on new games is going to hurt the brand even more

As for scorpio.....if they can afford to sell it at that loss they'll get -some- profit if they sell it at $400 at least but with all the tech it has that will probably hurt the more than help them

It will give the impression of them 'winning' e3 though, some guy in one of those speculation vids said since they're doing their conference early they do that then 'everyone will be focused on the scorpio' even compared to what sony announces.

Guess we'll just have to see what happens now

>>378856993
>reddit spacing
>defending MCC
Why am I not surprised?

>>378848204
>Halo is most popular
>Can't even break the top 20 most played games
Anon, I'm a huge Halo fan, but the series ain't doing well.

>>378866363
TBF, they hyped up games in 2015 and 2016 and still shit the bed. They need to change the strategy.

>>378864628
>What's with people thinking MS will announce no new games? My bet is bought a shitton of 3rd party devs to make "exclusives" for them. Phil kinda confirmed that already though desu

Yes, 3rd party games will choose the platform that has half the audience.

>>378852123
Dude, Halo isn't even in the top 20 most played Xbox games. 3 was in the top 3 until Reach, and it was constantly number 1 until MW2 released

Is anyone even excited for Sea of Thieves or Crackdown? It feels like there hasn't been a good pirate game in a long time, but SoT just seems like more of a social experiment than an actual game. Crackdown on the other hand has only been presented as this tech demo-esque experience rather than an actual game. The only title out of Xbox I actually care about is State of decay 2. I think that'll be their gem this E3. Unfortunately, that probably wont be enough.

>>378866716
>TBF, they hyped up games in 2015 and 2016 and still shit the bed. They need to change the strategy

it doesn't matter what exclusive they announce. CoD, Fifa, Battlefield, Destiny are console sellers. Sure Scorpio can make first party games look great but they probably only have five in production for the Scorpio. Besides checkerboarding and 60fps what does it offer to these companies?

>>378847326
>Project Spark - Cancelled and team disbanded
No one played it.
>Fable Legends - Cancelled and studio closed
Fable was never good.
>Scalebound - Cancelled
Looked like complete shit, I hope the new devs they get to make the game, can actually make a fun game out of this piece of shit.

>>378847471
>FFXV #16 of PS3
>not even in the top 30 for Xbone
Why does Square-Enix even release games on Xbox?

>>378851992
Destiny is pure shit, all of the members of Bungie that worked on Halo 1-3 are gone and shows (it was showing in 2009). Kill yourself, Halo 5 didn't do well because of sidling Master Chief, no split screen, and bare bones content at launch, None of this should be a problem for Halo 6 or any other mainline Halo after 6 because Chief is supposed to be the main character for all mainline Halo games for now on and all FPS Halo games will have split screen.

>>378867702
Phil Spencer babysits Mr Squares kid's.

>>378852368
Oh wow a game that sold on Xbox and PS sold more than Halo, a game that will now be on both platforms and PC may outsell Halo, OH WOW!

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>>378859353

>Detroit: become human

>>378853172
Halo was on decline because no one knew how to properly modernize the franchise. Bungie's way was pure shit. 343 had the right idea starting with Halo 4 but they ended up making COD in space. 343 finally got it right with Halo 5 but fucked up by not sidling Chief, axing split screen, and not releasing everything on launch.

>>378867345
Sea of Thieves is "we want the youtuber audience" the game. It's gonna be shallow as fuck.

>>378853949
See>>378868337

>>378868064
halo won't get trumped by Destiny sales numbers but by the amount of Xboxes sold.

>>378868482
Xbox was really the problem, Xbox 360 had less install base yet Halo 3 ended up having more players because Halo 3 didn't sideline the Master Chief, Halo 3 had split screen, and Halo 3 had ALL of its content at launch.

>>378868712
*wasn't

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Microsoft hates single player games

>>378868712
It is a shame. Xbox one is great now. I spent half my paycheck on 360 games I missed out on, on the bc sale. I may talk shit but I'll buy a Scorpio. It was where I played SotC and GH.

>>378868953
Square Enix is following as most of companies: http://wccftech.com/games-as-service-mainstream-model/
"Game as service" makes more money.

>>378869164
Halo 6 has to fix the mistakes of Halo 4 and 5, releasing everything on launch and patching the game as fast as possible because these are some of the things that killed Halo 4 and 5.

>>378868953
They don't, single player games don't make money, Xbox Game Pass will finally help single player only games actually make money. All of the series that Microsoft make that sale big are the ones with multiplayer, the single player games always bomb. So this is the best way to sell single player games. You either get Xbox Game Pass or you get nothing.

>>378869348
Square Enix can say they're following the games as a service model but they're still primarily pumping out single player games like FFXV, FFVII-R, KH3, I am Setsuna, Nier Automata, etc. They'll spin single player DLC, like with FFXV, as being a "service" but they're still primarily making singleplayer stuff, which is great.

Microsoft actively follows the business model to the point where they're fucking cancelling singleplayer games they don't know how to monetize (Scalebound). Their games are also loaded with jewish microtransactions and even worse DLC as well, which SE doesn't do often.

>>378862489
>twitch channel has 16 million total viewer
>Miley Cyrus made videos will le billions of views
Do you believe everything Mr. Shekelstein tell you?

>>378869673
>P-please buy our subscription

Nah thanks Phil

>>378847326
xbox will have the best pixels thought

>>378869673
>single player games don't make money
Yes they do, they've been the industry standard since its fucking inception. Just this year games like Breath of the Wild, Nier Automata, Persona 5, and Horizon Zero Dawn sold a shitton and all made a profit in correspondence to their budgets.

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>>378869673
>this is what casuals actually believe
I'm sure you were one of those people saying streaming services like PS Now or Android set-top consoles were the future as well.

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Why are Sony fanboys the worst?

>>378847326

Xbox brand hasn't had anything really going for it for the last decade. Halo 3 and ME1 were its last real hurrahs, it's been an absolute snorefest ever since.

>>378870901
>that Nintendo vs Valve

Nintendogaf does it again.

>>378870842
Not him but Multiplayer game makes more money on the long run.

>>378870901

Why is Rare there but not Platinum? Not that it matters when thrown up against PC.

>>378870706
>>single player games don't make money
lol>>378847471

>>378870525
>>378870706
>>378870842
What single player only game ever did well on Xbox, faggots?

>>378871416

Moot point, the only reason to buy an Xbox post-OG is because "all my friends have one". The last 2 consoles have been casual multiplayer boxes. At least the OG had Sega games.

Go to bed, Phil Bradley

>>378871556
Answer the fucking question and stop going over it.

>>378871416
The original Mass Effect

>>378870901
Because there are millions of them, you can't expect the 5 people who bought the xbone to be everywhere defending their purchase.

>>378872112
Can I get more than one?

anything lower than 4k hurts my eyes

>>378872140
Didn't Xbone sell 30 million?

>>378872323
Bioshock

How can anyone possibly believe this shit is going to run anything at NATIVE 4k and 60fps?

>>378871416
The Witcher 3
Rise of the Tomb Raider
Grand Theft Auto V
Hitman
Fallout 4
Dark Souls III
Metal Gear Solid V
Dragon Age: Inquisition
Assassin’s Creed
Watch Dogs
RDR
Batman Arkham
Middle-Earth: Shadow of Mordor

>>378867345
I played the first Crackdown when it was free and loved it. Excited for Crackdown 3 but I'm afraid the whole cloud shit used for destructible environments will ruin it in the long run

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>>378872690

>>378872705
Maybe I should have been more clear game released EXCLUSIVELY FOR Xbox that sold well and are not MULTIPLATS?

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>>378872690
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-forza-motorsport-on-project-scorpio-the-full-story
Forza is. The rest is only rumors.

>>378853172
>Destiny fills this role.
then why have i not heard shit about destiny since it launched

>>378872937
S-Sunset Overdrive

>>378873257
that game was a solid 7/10 but the controls were gimped with a controller.
If it came to PC I'd consider buying it

>>378873257
It bombed

>>378873043
You must have been under a rock.
Destiny has been huge, like it or not,

>>378873043
They made a general for it on /vg/ so most of the /v/ talk about it moved over there.

>>378873257
The only worthwhile game on Xbox this entire gen and no one bought it. Not like it was a masterpiece or anything of the like, though.

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>>378873370
It just a matter of time

>>378867345
I think Sea of Thieves looks kinda cool, in all honesty I haven't looked SUPER hard into everything about it, but from the little I know seems fun.

Crackdown is like the Just Cause games to me, they are fun to fuck around, but I never have any drive to complete them, so I would never be eager to buy it at launch.
The only reason Crackdown 3 interests me is because I really wanna see if they keep their totally destructible city promise, and the fallout from it if they don't.