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Rainbow Six Siege will get lootboxes in the next update

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PFFFFFFFHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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glad I didn't fall for the siege meme, I was close to buying it last sale
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This is the future all of you chose.
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lets all take a moment to thank valve for this cancer
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>>378845485
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA
>thinking ubisoft is above going 200% jew
LMAO UBIC U C K S BTFO
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>b-b-but siege is good
maybe, but ubisoft is garbage. siege fags are literal cucks now.
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>2017
>the video game industry entirely switched to a bait-and-switch strategy, whose purpose is to have you buy a game that no one cares about because most of the budget went into marketing
>those games are essentially frontends for cash shops and DLC

Why did they have to ruin my only hobby?
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Don't see anything wrong with that. They don't remove the previous model and the lootboxes just allow you to get even more cosmetic shit
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>>378845485
>Still buying Ubishit games on current year

You get what you deserve.
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>>378845485
>Get free stuff
>JAJAJAJjaJajJa

What are you crying about
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>>378846053
Siege is kind of an exception, like it escaped most of the bullshit Ubishit games suffer from.

Still, it's not perfect by any means, and clearly you'd have no reason to by any other Ubishit game.
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>>378846150
>This one is the exception guys

Every single time.
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How dependent is this game on using mics? I want a new shooter to play, but I don't want to hear or speak with faggots.
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>>378845485
>Can't buy packs directly with real money (can buy a booster though)
>Every pack guaranteed to contain a legendary item
>Get them by playing the game
Seems like a decent way to implement those. Head and shoulders above something like CS where you have to buy keys with real money if you want to open boxes and the free drops you get are always scratched lowest tier junk.
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>>378845485
>When you complete a match - win or lose - the chance of getting an alpha pack increase. However, the dice for a drop are only rolled if you win...
literally punishing players for being good at the game.
>throw 100 matches
>stack 95% chance of fancy box drop
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>>378845532
I was too, man.
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>can't buy them with real money (besides buying a renown booster)
>chances increase more as you don't get one
>unlike overwatch seasonal events limiting what you can get, alpha packs allow you to get content that you can't just buy anymore
>even items you can only buy with the purchased currency are in the packs (though the stuff that has actual prices like $9.99 aren't available)

Are these loot packs done right?
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>Literally the only MP available that hasn't succumbed to loot boxes and other shady DLC shit is the one that EA threw out to die by sandwiching it in between Battlefield and Call of Duty
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>>378845532
You're not missing much. It's basically a moba with the rainbow six theme puked all over it.
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>>378845485
This would be perfect if you couldnt just buy that shit
Stops people from leaving after losing one round
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>>378845485
I don't see any problem here. It is not that autistic skins were not a part since december '15.
And i don't read anything about buying keys to open them so you literally get shit for free.
So why are you baiting me, senpai?

>>378845767
>siege
>marketing
kek, that game had almost no marketing because someone in a high position at ubishit still can't believe it became succesful.
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loot boxes are not a problem, if done right.

>get crates regardless if win or lose
>only way to open crate is with a key
>keys can be purchased with real money, or traded for
>every item in rocket league has a currency value(0.2, 0.5, 1, 1.5, etc)
>crates also have value
>can trade x number of crates for keys or other items of interest
>can literally get the best cosmetic items without paying a single real world dollar, if your wallstreet game is on point
I'm sitting on 49 keys right now($49) without buying shit. I've traded crates, bought items for cheap, flipped them for something better, then sold the better item for a profit. I have all the good shit I want, plus a strong trade value to buy anything new that gets added in future updates.

but why is this a good thing? because everything you see in game can be gotten for free, and the people that do pay for keys provide a steady flow of development funds for developers to continue providing "free" updates. not a single person loses in this deal. freefags get shit, buyfags get shit, and developers/publishers don't have to risk expansions, when players are willing to throw money at them for cosmetics.
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>>378846310
>Every pack guaranteed to contain a legendary item

I know the op pic says this, but where is this from? Every pack only has one item, and from watching openings, plenty weren't legendary
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>>378846298
Very. Info is everything
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>>378846638
Loot boxes are cancerous either way desu
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>>378846693
nice argument you totally showed him
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>>378846638
Sounds a lot like how Warframe functions. You can get everything in it without spending a dime on the premium currency by playing the player driven market.
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>>378846638
That's all good and great

Too bad the game sucks ass
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>>378846053
> Only buy Assassin Creed titles

Feels good, fampai. I don't have to buy the microtransaction shit and can safely avoid the Ubisoft-isms.
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how do prevent >>378846318 ?
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>>378846691
Oh well, the search continues.
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>man loot boxes are shit
>except this game based ubisoft
lmao, expect a giant normalfag influx. They love that shit.
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>>378846693
>no lootbox
>no free shit
>no one cares
>lootbox
>chance to get free shit
>muh cancer
Are you people mental? Like some people still say this game is p2w without ever playing it?
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>>378846576
What.
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>>378846821
by kicking people I guess
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maybe they could unbox a fun game!!! lMAO
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>>378846754
>>378846854
>Encouraging people to gamble away their money because a box might contain something that can just buy otherwise
I'm mainly talking about how Overwatch does it though, where 90% of new content is loot box shit that you can't just buy. Everyone's been trying to copy them.
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>>378845485
>here's what
>here's how
>here's what else
>here's how
>all in the first few lines
who wrote this shit?
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>>378846754

I mean he's not wrong. Take a look at the "economy" CS:GO and TF2 fostered. Hardly anyone talks about the game in-game anymore. It's all about "muh hatz, skins."

Rocket League kinda avoids that as you can't "trade server" it. But it has off-site shit to do it with like CS:GO.

AND ever since the lootboxes were implemented the DLC support has kinda fallen downhill. We got what... Dom's Challenger in the past year?
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>>378846948
>money
Learn to read underage faggot.
No keys = no money
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>>378846638
>loot boxes are not a problem, if done right.
>Lists an example where you have to pay (either with real money or monopoly money) to open it
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>>378846761
shit is great. they even have websites that let you host trades, which make it easier for players to contact you. I admit that I wasn't a huge fan of this system at first, but the freefag in me is thankful that I can get shit without having to drop $19.99 for some recolored skin.
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>>378846964
>TF 2 had a nice unique look and style
>replaced by wacky unbalanced garbage
>went f2p and invited all sorts of scum
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>you can't use real money to buy alpha packs directly

that's about the lowest evil though
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>>378847020
Only someone who's underage themselves would accuse someone of being underage :^)
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>>378845485

not enough slowpokes for you
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>>378845561
How does one cure fucking cancer of this magnitude? It keeps on spreading and there seems no way to stop it as fucking plebs keep gorging on this shit over and over again.
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>>378847101
>I made a mistake and got BTFO
:^)
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>>378846638
whether free or not, the aspect of bringing in money drives development towards pointless cosmetics whale type players buy up. Gameplay patches become secondary to non-existent, or worse still begin to show up in the loot crates. Those "free" updates will continue to regress until only cosemtic updates are all than remain. The only real plus lootcrates have is when you make virtual money (sometiimes real money off of it) as a consumer. I remember I made about about a 100 dollars off tf2 before steam throughly fucked trading forever.
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>>378846576
uhhh rofl, is this the latest meme after DOW3?
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>>378847039
well fuck it, hope you like $40 expansion packs. no company is going to keep shitting out free content every 3-4 months, out of the goodness of their heart.

they could've been real dicks and made crate items bind on pickup.
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>>378846510
>not having the BT chasis in MP to begin with
>Monarch
>shield bs

they deserve this death
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gaming sucks now get another hobby
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>>378847483
>ubisoft sucks stop buying their shit games
ftfy
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>>378847472
>They deserve death for releasing free content
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>>378845485
I sincerely and honestly hope that the government steps into this shit to disallow gambling in games. This shit is a million times worse than dlc.
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>>378846231
You won't find anyone telling you Farcry 4, Watch Dogs 2 or GR Wildlands is an exception though.

Still, playing Siege is a chore and it's like Ubisoft does their best to ruin a game people enjoy.
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>>378845485
Reminder that it was Valve who unleashed this cancer
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>>378845596
if anything it's a japanese mobage trend, lootboxes are gacha tickets, but in boxes
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>>378846638
The issue is this shit has nothing to do with the game itself.

It's like they feel it necessary to add incentives for people to play the game, because most people would stop if they weren't there. It pretty much describes phone/tablet games and normie gaming as a whole: those people don't like video games, they just get caught by incentives.

There was no incentive to play Deus Ex, Age of Empires, Baldur's Gate or Starcraft. As long as they add this kind of bullshit, it only means one thing: "our games are shit and we have no idea how to make this good, also we make games for people that don't like games".

Fuck modern vidya.
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I don't give a fuck

WHERE IS THE DLC YOU BASTARDS
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>>378847896
buy season pass
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>Chance for box after each game
>Can buy boxes with in game currency

This is leagues better than it could've been, fuck you faggots are dramatic sometimes
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>>378847618
More like reused content
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>>378847896
when Op Health is finished
so 2 months from now I think
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>>378847928

EVEN IF YOU HAD THE SEASON PASS THE SHIT GOT DELAYED
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>orwellian thought control censorship
>unrealistic female military characters
>now retard lootbox cosmetics

Siegecucks, when will they learn
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>>378847963
ok
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>>378847928
What a cuck
>pay for something
>don't get it
>"please send more money"
Siege is Star Citizen grade bullshit.
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>>378846638
>IT ITS NOT REAL GAMBLING IF ITS INDIRECT
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>>378848028
buy GOLDEN season pass.
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>>378848056
>only 6 reprehensible messages
>Ubisoft employee publicly posting private chat

I'd sue, and I'm not even American.
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>>378846761
you still can't get the special snowflake cosmetics in founder packages, or Excalibur/Lato/Skana Prime
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>>378848056
>living in fear of ubishit
kek
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>skins were there for over a year
>you can get shit thats avalaible in game shop for in game currency anyway

Whats all the ruckus about?
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>>378848129
gambling implies i'm spending money on the chance of getting the outcome I desire. i'm paying for items directly using in-game currency that was not gambled for, but earned from playing the game.
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>>378848460
Gaming news sites are always thirsty for pageviews. The loot packs being live on the test server, along with recycling months old info, is enough to get a couple thousand hits on the article.
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>>378848460
/v/ hating for no reason and habing a good old bait thread?
I bet half of them don't even care or are playing the game like fanatics
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>>378848460
My only problem with this is that they moved PLANNED YEAR BEFORE season DLC with polish operators and deleted their planned map, something the people PAY FOR in season pass.
All because of "Operation Health" aka "Operation Good Goy" where they apparently want to fixed long known bugs and performance.

But I know OH is just a coverup for Ubi to put in all this lootbox shit and that they understaff siege team.
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>>378845485

Which online shooters haven't fallen prey to the loot box meme?
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>>378846794
You mean the Ubisoft-isms of climbing towers to unlock more of the map, going boring, repetitive side-quest that start of as fun but after the 50th time you are bored out of your skull. Or maybe you mean the Ubisoft-ism of releasing a game buggy and unfinished making it virtually unplayable?
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>>378849234
i dont think sudden attack has loot boxes yet
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>>378845485
>purely cosmetic
>get them just by playing the game instead of buying them with real money
What's wrong with these?
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>>378846754
it's fucking cancer dude, what argument do you need?
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>>378847956
>this cancer is only partially cancer, so it's not as bad!
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>>378848056
>insult other players
>gets banned
I don't see the problem here
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>>378847892
The difference with Siege is that the playerbase has been strong for the past year without this loot incentive because somehow someone in that Ubisoft shithole of a company actually managed to make a great game. I've been looking for a shooter with a high skill ceiling that I can pour hours into just learning new things and improving since Overwatch disappointed me. Siege is that game for me. I play because the base game is actually interesting and there's so much room to grow and creative things to try. These loot packs are unnecessary, though I don't mind the way they're implementing them where it doesn't look like a cash grab but instead just an extra reward for playing the game. Though I personally haven't paid attention to the cosmetics in the game and I don't think that's going to change when they add these.
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>>378849637
It isn't cancer at all. They aren't trying to jew the players. This is literally the devs throwing free shit at you.
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Double dipping in any form is unacceptable.

DLC for smaller games, I can understand, but, DLC and cash boxes, fuck right off.
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>>378850385
this is ubisoft we're talking about, they would sell their souls for a chance to jew their dumbass customers even more.

look at how much they're shilling far gay 5 lately
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>tfw everytime something goes from expensive to cheap companies then try and nickle and dime you
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>>378851037
I hate Ubisoft too but in this specific instance with these loot packs they aren't jewing. I'm wary of Siege too because it is a too good to be true scenario. But I'm just going to enjoy it while it lasts.
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>all these /v/aggots who tried to get me to buy this game
>all these /v/aggots calling it a good game
>still never fell for it
>they get jewed out and now forced to defend it to prevent admitting their mistakes

you deserve every last ounce of bullshit you niggers
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>>378851251
They're free tho... how am I getting jewd,
And you're talking shit about a game you never played, it's one of the best fps's to come out in the last 5 years
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>>378851251
How is it a mistake when they enjoyed the game as it was before? Are you stupid? People can even dislike changes made to a game they aren't forced to defend it, I don't know why you think this.
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>>378851251
this shit wouldn't happen if people wouldn't buying pay for it. but you KNOW faggots will pay for it. just like they do overwatch and every other goddamn game that does this
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>>378849032
>My only problem with this is that they moved PLANNED YEAR BEFORE season DLC with polish operators and deleted their planned map, something the people PAY FOR in season pass.
But all maps are free for everyone :^)
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>>378845561
This. I can't believe fags are arguing over which company is fucking them harder while this shit slides on by uncontested.
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>have to buy characters
>have to buy camos
>now has bullshit rng boxes
so its a f2p but not free?
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/v/ supports lootboxes
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>>378845485
I considered buying it to play with a few friends
glad I dodged that bullet
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>>378846150
>shit tier gameplay
>shit tier performance
>shit tier support
>shit tier fanbase
>shit tier sheme to rake in money for Ubi

yeah, completely different than any other Ubisoft game I swear!
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>>378852010
-lootboxes
-season pass
-expansion pack
-game store

you must pick one, and keep in mind that not have one of these means your game no longer receives updates.
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>>378851595
Anon, you cannot purchase alpha packs with real money. Only technically if you buy a renown booster.
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>>378846638
Rocket League is littered with Hajibs with their controllers rubberbanded. It even lacks the capability to report someone for doing it. Not a good example.
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>>378852338
you get banned for that shit now, and there is a way to report it. it's called unsportsmanlike conduct.

there's a lot of less it these days, and absolutely none of it in rated play.
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>>378852174
Expansion packs EASILY. You buy a game, you get access to all that game has to offer with no microtransaction bullshit. Every once in a while you can buy more game to play.
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>>378852481
I'm not down with paying $29.99 for something I could get for free, but i'm also a poorfag. lootbox lets me get everything without paying shit.

from a payfag point of view, expansion would likely be the best choice, so I cannot argue against it.
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>>378845485
Welp, I was actually thinking about buying it since it had survived for so long. Not anymore though, fuck this shit.
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>>378846576
Are you legit retarded
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I bet you faggots complaining about hits, did so while alt tabbing out of overwatch while screaming at the screen...

Jesus kids are becomming more gay as the years go by...
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>>378848460
Nothing. Cucks here are laughing at nothing without even reading the article
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>>378853193
I doubt any Overwatch fags are ITT. They get filtered out by shit threads.
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>>378846638
If you guys want free shit link your rl account to a twitch account and leave their stream running in the background this weekend, you'll get drops in game.
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>>378845485
Which doesn't effect the game in any way other than adding cosmetics.

Woop de do.
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>>378845485
>loot box system
>you can't buy them
>they seem to work like how Rocket League's do except without keys
what's so funny anon
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>>378846510
It's really weird that in this modern age I'm glad Titanfall 2 has camo and skin packs that straight up show you what you get instead of "lol who knows you may get this Scorch Prime or you may get your 6th duplicate of red zebra just spin that wheel buddy"

Fuck.
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>>378846576
you never played it, have you
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>>378854306
Either that or he has no idea what a MOBA actually is.
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>>378845485
Why does every full priced game have to include F2P tier jewery nowadays? It's fucking abhorrent.
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>>378854748
>spend half a billion on advertising
let that sink in
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>>378850991
>reading comprehension
Ingame currency from playing the game is used to buy crates, or you can just get them from winning games. How is this a cash box, you literal retard?
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>>378854748
>F2P tier jewery
>can't purchase these with real money
Are you just an illiterate nigger, or a retard?

Wait you're on /v/, you're both.
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>>378854748
Because $60 doesn't cover the cost anymore
Even if we just adjust the price according to inflation:
>$60 in 2000 = $85.20 in 2017
AAA games also have became more expensive to develop, and dont forget that all publishers are greedy as fuck on top of all taht
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can somebody explain why i should be upset about this, you can use in game currency, and win them for just playing, also its just cosmetic shit that wont change game play or give players advantages.
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>>378845596
I thought the popular Korean mmos like maple story pioneered it. It proved micro transactions could work.
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>>378845485
>Poland died
>for this
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>>378855225
no one reads. they just see lootbox and sperg out of control. this thread is a good example of why so many dumbasses in /hbg/ bricked their 3ds.
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>>378855291
They cancelled GROM operators?
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>>378855447
Polish map.
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I can't see what's cancerous about this. KF2, TF2 and OW lootboxes are way worse. These just look like a way to keep people on the loot treadmill.
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>>378855447
They're still coming, but split up, and no Poland map
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>>378845485
>it's just a new way to get skins

Once again, /v/ doesn't know how to read.
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>>378846298
Not that dependent. You can get by on sound whoring and map awareness. I can't remember a ranked game I won that was dependent on a teammates call out. Trust only yourself and not your shitter team.
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I guess konami was right all along for droping game development and focusing in making fucking gambling machines
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>>378846821
>throw 20 games
>lose first 19, accidentally win 20th, get a 90% for 1 loot crate

>play 20 games normally
>lose 10 of them, but get 10 chances to win loot crates. even if you got very unlucky, you'd still have a 90% chance to get 1 loot crate if you only won your last game

basically it doesn't make any sense to throw if you want to farm shit. it'd be like throwing in order to farm renown, since you still get it for losing.
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>Get free items for winning, no key to unlock required
>If you don't get a drop then your drip chances are increased until you get one
>Can buy more with the free in-game currency that cannot be bought, only boosted by buying a booster pack
Why are we mad again? This is nothing like other games and their loot boxes.
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>>378853057
Welcome to 4chan
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>>378855873
>why are people mad about free-to-play bullshit in a game they bought?
I don't know why you have to ask this question. Sure, it's relatively mild as lootbox systems go, but it shouldn't be there at all.
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>>378854306
I have and it is complete shit.>>378854737
I do and moba is complete shit.
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I don't get this bitching about loot boxes in games. Is this just a new thing that is cool to hate for no reason or what the fuck?

They are basically the same fucking thing we've always had in games with microtransactions with the exception that with loot boxes you are buying something not knowing what you'll get.
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>>378856221
why?i don't see any down side to it.
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>>378845485
That's fantastic, I'm so glad. I love getting more gameplay content for free cause cosmeticfags make it more profitable to support it.
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>>378856743
fucking glad someone gets it. a lot of gameplay/content wouldn't be added unless they charged for it. if cosmetic queens want to pay $100 for a gun skin, let them. just as long as developers continue adding new shit for people that don't want to pay.
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>>378856614
Because the game is being built around making people want to pay money in to skip the grind.

It sucks the fun out of the game and it always get worse over time.
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>>378845485
>Western games

Reminder not to support this fucking cancer.
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>>378857298
The game is fucking two years old so it's not "build around" loot boxes. Also in Siege nothing is worth paying real money since scopes are only items you want to unlock and you get those for everything fast.
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>>378851251
>her anon we play this game that is actually fun but flawed,you should try if you want
>Hurr videogames sucks hurrr

Thats is how silly you sound
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>>378845485
these fucking niggers give us operation haelth and this?actually going to drop this now
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>>378857560
I only see worthless trash in that pic.
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>>378857638
>it's only a little bit cancer
There is no amount of microtransaction jewery which is acceptable in a game with an upfront price.
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>>378858804
They already said that alpha packs were coming in season two. It's a surprise to no one.
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>>378858890
Can't help those with shit tastes faggot.
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Man, if only Siege had a competent publisher
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>>378845485
the bigger cancer is all these games even on PC now rely solely on matchmaking instead of letting us host our own servers.
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>free stuff

what the fuck is the problem here? must /v/ cry about everything?
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>>378861583

I'd say Siege is somewhat of an exception since it's so heavily based on rounds and fixed team compositions, but yeah community dedicated servers are gone now since every game tries to have in that bullshit currency/experience/leveling thing so they can charge you somewhere to skip the grind

But what really makes me sad about the state of the game is the interface, it's like Ubisoft has some important design guidelines that make all their games have terrible clunky menus and shit that just makes it so annoying to even get inside a game
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>>378859169
Have you even played the game, you ridiculous faggot?
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