Those forced "2D" sections are pure fucking cancer.

So glad I pirated that piece of trash

>2D
The fuck are you talking about? The only 2D things in the game are the menus, some sprites and A2's tits.

git gud

>>378844412
The sidescrolling segments are fine. The hacking minigame is not fine.

>>378844412
You meant those sections where movement is restricted to sides scrolling /top down?

>>378844412
Game would have been better if you didn't have to play as 9S on second playthrough.

>>378844412
gid gud

>>378845050

Yes, the sections where your movement is restricted to two dimensions. Is that really that hard to comprehend?

>Good whacky Japanese design is ruined by Shitty whacky Japanese gameplay

End this meme

Why is the default parry attack a launcher when 90% of enemies can't be launched into the air? That's really unsatisfying.

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>>378845127
Plz don't bully, I'm slow

>>378845303
Only 2Bs is like that.
Still dumb though.

Even on easy, I thought the third playthrough was too hard and gave up. I'm selling it tomorrow

For everything this game does well it does two things horribly.

>>378845303
isn't it just the small katana that's like that? use other weapons out of a parry

I liked it, added variety to the gameplay.

>>378845326
Stupid failure.

>>378844965
Late game hacks are really good.
If you hack little enemies all the time that happend.

>>378845742
is this nigga serious?

There aren't any 2D sections.

>>378846561
If you want to read why I gave up, go here:
https://www.giantbomb.com/nier-automata/3030-49998/forums/i-regretfully-had-to-call-it-on-what-was-an-otherw-1810571/#8

*sidescroll

OP you dumb cunt

>>378844412
>You have to read subtitles while dodging bullets during the mecha parts

Amazing idea.

>>378846724
>be warned
My sides.

>>378846837

The top down view is also 2d, you tard.

>>378846920
>not using the dub

>>378846925
I couldnt believe my bad luck. It was such a good game too

>>378847135
>using the dub EVER

>>378847174

>Intentionally subjecting yourself to a language you don't understand.

Weebs are the worst.

>>378846724
If you can't get through that section on easy mode you must be really shit.

>>378847385
Eh, as I've gotten older, I've got progressively worse at games. I just don't have the time/energy to put into them anymore.

It didn't help that enemies were 20+ levels on me. It meant taking them down was a task

>>378847510
Get out my hobby

>>378847627
Make me

>>378845303
>Double gauntlets.
>Ora Ora
>Shoryuken launcher
>Equip slow mo chip for hokuto shinken
I had fun

Tower ascend, Grun fight and some of the hacking segments are among the hypest moments in the game.

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>>378847285

>>378844412
Nah you're just shit.

>>378846724
Good fucking lord how the hell do you run low on health supplies when they are dirt cheap in a game that spoonfeeds you money, let alone spazzing your reticlue so much you can't hack 2B without hacking the other 20 Yorha units, that's not the game's fault you're an autistic fuckwit

>forced
Just had to sneak in the buzz/v/ord. Afraid you won't get any (You)s without it? Well you aren't getting any from me, faggot.

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>>378844412
I bought this game with high hopes but I really, really didn't like it. The combat felt really shitty and everything just seemed really bland.

>>378848323

What the fuck is your problem, nerd?

>>378844412
>doesnt like gameplay changing for variety.
pleb

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>>378846724
>being competent at the game
>playing on easy

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Hey guys

A2!!!!

>>378849308
>>378849308
shut up ironic weeb

>>378849459
>ironic weeb
can't I waifuing my waifu, mongol?

>>378849459
why would you tell me to shut up in a japanese vidya game and in my homeland?

>>378844412
I just beat this. Very short. How come that A2 girl never showed up again? Is she in one of the alternate endings?

>>378849876

You didn't beat it, you idiot. You're like 20% into the game.

>>378849946
Nani?

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>>378849876
because A2 is too good to be played in this shit game

>>378850115

Do you really want me to spoil it? Just keep playing, you haven't seen shit yet. First playthrough is basically the intro.

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>>378850115
Did you miss this?

>>378850417
nice meme game

>>378847285
>being too retarded to read subs
>not enjoying the novelty of listening to a language that isn't the burger-speak you hear everyday

Dumb, monolingual and illiterate burgers are the absolute worst

>>378850417
I figured that was just referring to alternate endings, like if I made different choices.

Emil had a hard life

>>378850640
don't argue with a buzzworder

>>378850642
Route B follows events of A but from the perspective of actual main character.
Route C is a second half of the game with grand finale.

Just how many people bought this game because of Platinum and/or their dick?

>>378851170
I bought this game because of yoko taro.

I did buy bayonetta because I was impressed with Platinum's gameplay though. Thought it was just an overhyped studio but they are actually talented.

>>378850517
Nice meme post

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>>378844412
>sections are pure fucking cancer.
Those sure are strong words for sections that barely last for more than 5 minutes.

>>378851258
then you fell for the biggest meme of them all

>>378850642
What different choices?

You're given like 0 choices throughout the game.

>>378844412
>was going to get nier automata on the PC
>so sick of weeb shite due to my vita that I picked DSIII Goty eidition instead

will I regret my choice?

>>378852858
But they're both Japanese games

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Automata is a strangely captivating game. I went into it thinking I was gonna get waifushit: robot edition but I found myself extremely into its world and to keep playing more than some other recent games that didn't grab my attention.

>>378845303
There shouldn't have been a perfect dodge attack at all. It got incredibly annoying and makes the dodge offset chip useless.

>>378854383
I like how you using waifu as a buzzword term for it. You think people are mindlessly getting baited by some cute girls or over their bodies? Well you using this term wrongly

>>378854383
same here my friend. isn't it great not to be a narrow-minded retard?

>>378846724
anon i played on normal and i barely died at all throughout the entire game. you'd have to be braindead to not be able to clear it on easy. hard i understand, those bosses will fuck you up, but on easy? come on. and horizon sucks dick.

>>378855330
>>378855338
Yes, there are games that are waifubait shit and have horrible gameplay, and people play them for solelytits & ass, and without the fanservice, people wouldn't even remember the games themselves. See: Shantae.

>>378855542
But anon there is nothing wrong with waifufagging as long as it's a good character you lusting over

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>>378855741
I'm just saying don't pretend there aren't games out there that are sold on fanservice, and the game's priorities are fanservice first, and the rest can go fuck itself.

>>378846724
>can't beat Automata, a pisseasy game on Normal


Fuck me.

It surprises me how many people think that the game is over when they finish route A. I remember finishing it for the first time and thinking that the "thanks for playing" message was unnecessary but I guess not

>>378844412

her name is 2B not 2D you deaf fuck

>>378846724
>cant finish a game on easy where you can equip auto chips and the game literally plays itself like a movie
can i dare say you're retarded?

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>>378857997
yes

>>378844412
What about the forced "3D" sections?

>>378850642
No nigger now go finish the game. Second playthrough has you doing again a significant amount of stuff you've already done, but third playthrough is quite unique.

>>378846724
Nigga, I plat'd the game on hard, now that was a hair pulling struggle. I don't want to hear about you finding it too hard on easy, piss off.

>>378844412
anyway, retards aside, was the point of the game that even though machines and androids were basically the same the androids fell for the semantics meme and thought they were right in killing the machines right? a commentary on how humans kill one another for petty differences even though we're the same. then again the machine network had the loli virus so it's not like they were going to stop either except for pascal and the others outside the network.

also the game makes the point that any AI will always strive to become human no matter what.

>>378862498
It's one of the points. Another is that both machines and androids are thrown into an empty world devoid of any culture or reasons to live, and they cope with being unable to create new values for themselves.

Main characters go against it because the force driving them is their love for each other that starts gradually changing even their Pods, who gain self-consciousness in the end as well.

>>378862498
Androids and machines are not the same, only YoRHa androids use machine cores. Also, Pascal and the others who were supposedly disconnected never actually were, it was an experiment by the network to see how machines would react with a semblance of free will. The reason why the machines act the way they do is because the network realizes that they have no ultimate purpose if they ever win the war, and are scrambling to try and find a meaning for life

The game has some details that a lot of people seem to miss

>>378862498
For me the biggest point was the question: is there meaning in your actions even when they are ultimately futile?

>>378862957
>Androids and machines are not the same
There's no functional difference between any machine life save for black box/machine core which is just a high-end memory storage and fusion reactor.
Androids are just as capable of being networked, they prefer not to.

>>378862709
I don't know if they had no reasons to live. There's that sidequest where some resistance member adopts a Yorha unit to have as some kind of surrogate family.

The androids of Automata are far too well developed, overly similar to humans if you may, how they have emotions and shit, and this fact goes against the whole Yorha charade that androids need something to live for. What about the units who defected? They looked fairly "normal" and just surviving. Same for A2. I don't know, the whole goal of the Yorha project seems to underestimate how advanced the androids of the game's world really are. They don't look helpless or desperate if they're not told what to do

>>378862957
>Androids and machines are not the same, only YoRHa androids use machine cores
yeah but 9S says the "circuitry" is the same, basically. black boxes are just slightly more complex machine cores.

I guess I missed that about Pascal and his crew, though makes sense cause I was wondering why his villagers went berserk.

>>378845225
>good
>whacky jap design
choose one and only one

>>378863232
YoRHa androids are the pinnacle of individual machine life, pretty much. A lot of other androids are probably way dumber and need someone to give them a reason to live. Or at least they think they do.

>>378863197
Why does it matter that they're both mechanical?

>>378863197
Not really talking about the way they're made, but the way they function. Androids are made with an innate love for humanity, while machines just have an fascination with them. Also, androids, most notably 2B and 9S, are capable of fundamentally evolving on what they are supposed to be, while machines never learn i.e. if they make a dictatorship for their new government and that government fails, instead of changing they'll just install a new government

>>378863232
>Same for A2.
to be fair going on a never ending quest to kill every machine for personal revenge isn't exactly doing okay in life and having a nice purpose.

>>378863182
for me it was more like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRDBmteHXlA

machines trying to cope with shitty creators or creators that weren't around anymore to give them purpose. and then the purpose the machines do arrive at are as silly as the ones humans arrive at

>>378863530
>while machines never learn
That was only because of N2 who limited their development.
If you look at the timeline, 500 years after the events of Automata machines form a caste society that ends with civil war inside, so they are actually evolving on their own. Peace faction also signs a peace treaty with androids.

>>378844629
kek did you complete the game

>>378863614
>and then the purpose the machines do arrive at are as silly as the ones humans arrive at
I think that just plays into the idea I stated - cyclical failure.

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>game takes place in 11945
>one side of the conflict uses Ho-229, Nazi-like combat uniform and StG 44
>another uses giant mechs formed from work equipment named Marx and Engels, has a network uniting all of them and is led by entities in red
>it also wins

Hold the fuck up, are ALL weapon stories canon?

>>378864128
There's are a couple of weapon stories that reference both Bro and Papa Nier. Take that as you will

>>378864128
Yes. So both Brother and Father Nier existed in different universes of taroverse.

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>>378864128

Some are just Accord shitposting, but most of them are rooted in a truth.

>>378864015
>it also wins
You were doing fine till this part.

>>378862498
The point of the game is that our reality is stained by lies and that we're all thinking about how much we want to **** 2B .

I enjoyed the 2D sections

Wait, so were the machines in the village no different to the machines you've been killing the whole game?

>>378864657
They are an evolutionary branch created for experiment.

So did the Commander know about the alien back door? She only knew about the lie of humans existing, right?

>>378864470
>****
>yfw that didn't stand for fuck, it stood for love. because emotions are prohibited.

>>378864905
She didn't knew about the backdoor, only about the humans, yes.
The only personnel who actually had clearance to know about backdoor is Pods. They are the ones behind entire project creation.

>>378864964

It stood for kill

>>378865069
>They are the ones behind entire project creation
For fucks sake there's juicy info hidden outside the game, isn't there?

>>378857268
it's actually 2E

>>378865181
Yes, concert script.
Whole project YoRHa was designed by two androids, and one killed another, perfecting the plan in the process. It was automated to be carried by the Pods. There's a Pod 006 on the Moon in charge of moon server, for example.

>>378865181
There's quite a lot actually. Nothing really substantial to understand the game though

>>378863985
yeah but the actions of humans aren't ultimately futile. most humans can accomplish most of the goals they set for themselves, either in their generation or the next.

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>>378865181
Oh, and android behind the backdoor and current design of the project is 9S' prototype.

>>378865457
>hurr I'm just a scanner model, I'm not built for battle ;_;
Playing through Route B, he was racking up the bodycount while talking calmly with 2B. Is he humble or a psycho?

>>378865596
Yes, he's a legit psychopath. But 2B stabilizes him.
The most adorable part of route B is a very beginning when he's being cute with 2B who looks at the birds inside the Factory while he's destroying probably entire Factory defence forces.

>>378863985
Humans are different, as we have a finite lifespan, which makes every moment of our lives more special in what we choose to do. Machines and Androids are practically immortal, the only thing that seems to keep androids from going crazy is having someone or a group to take care of and love. Just look at what happens to Emil after living for so long although he does say that even if it's pointless, you still have to do it

>>378846724
The only part that was a bit of a kerfluffle was taking sick 2B from the coast to the supermarket, when you can't run or jump 60% of the time.
At one time, enemies were playing ping pong with her without me being able to do anything.

>>378865596
why is 9s's spear throw so good. It's basically a rapid fire laser

>>378866173
Because he's a mage of the group. Slower than girls in exchange for more power and range.

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>>378865596
take a guess

>>378865890
>the supermarket,
it was a shopping mall dude

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>>378866173
We need 9S edit.

>>378863242
> I guess I missed that about Pascal and his crew, though makes sense cause I was wondering [spoiletyspoilers]
That's what you get from living near a zombie castle.

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>>378844828
Bully prohibited

>>378866791
Well, thanks for correcting me, I guess.

https://track5.mixtape.moe/wnrksq.mp3

Thought this was a really a nice touch. Although the game isn't very visually appealing, there are a lot of small details that easily makes up for it

Why is normal mode so incredibly easy in this game but the hard mode is actually too hard? Some big enemies' hits with the same level as you will oneshot you from full health even with the maximum +100% health chips.
In normal small enemies will hit you for about 10-20% of my health per hit. In hard that amount gets more than doubled, to about 40-50%.

Wish there was a semi-hard mode because normal is just a faceroll and hard is just frustrating because of the oneshots (especially in C route where dying gives you a game over)

Loved it, played it more than the time ticker could go up. Get fucked.
Probably the last game I'll buy for ps4 next to Witcher 3. The system really is bare bones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMKskuvJTcs

OST of 2017 easy.

>>378865373
>>378865882
What if your kids grow up to be failures? Was it still worth it to have children? What if the end of a relationship leaves you more distressed than you were before entering into it? Was it worth it to start the relationship? What if you lead a political party into power to improve your polity, only to have your policies achieve the opposite effect? Was it a good thing you ever ran the election in the first place?

Is the journey worth the destination when the destination is so fucked?

Death does not make life more meaningful. That's nonsense mortals peddle out to try and make peace with it. What makes life special is what YOU make of it. If you are eternal, or but a drop in the rain, YOU make it worth existing or not. So says the one from BEYOND!

>>378868070
It was worth a try. That's what Ending E was all about, even if things might repeat themselves and everything is fucked, it's worth a shot to try and save the characters, as this time it might be different

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>>378867114
A2 is for someone reason gets bullied lately. pls someone save my A2

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>>378844828
>and A2's tits
Ohh shit.

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>>378867667
>Although the game isn't very visually appealing
I disagree

>>378868070
you have no way of knowing that when you first start out. hindsight is 20/20. it's better to die on your proverbial death bed knowing you tried than regretting not have tried any of those things tbqh.

>>378868321
our minds are made with an end in mind. We literally cannot even imagine what a brain that is meant to live forever, thus in fiction we imagine our brains living forever, the result being a being who goes crazy over a lifetime of heartaches stacked on top of one another for time neverending

>>378867770
Hard mode is fine, apart from the mech sections. It doesn't help that stray bullets can kill you during cutscenes. Doing the Grun boss fight, there can be an absurd amount of bullets that can fuck you up in 1-2 hits. Had to dial it back down to normal.

Basically balance is kinda screwed in the game either way.

>>378868392
Well yeah, that was the game's conclusion. It asks the question in C/D and gives its opinion in E. The question stands as something for the player to answer for his/herself.

>>378868608
Doing the last area with this playing is fantastic. The Tower never gets mentioned.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ1DVqk4zLY

>>378868608
If that is the way of the finite then they should seek to unhinder themselves. I don't see how it is any difficulty to imagine a mind that only grows more. Evolves, changes. It's like some strange god in their minds throwing them into the abyss.

>>378868608
>it's better to die on your proverbial death bed knowing you tried than regretting not have tried any of those things tbqh.
That's your opinion my man. I'm sure some people have regrets about the failures in their life and rather they had done something else.

In reality it's not like things are absolutist, you're not going to 100% regret or 100% accept every failed action.

>>378868608
that screenshot is disgusting, did you play this on a toaster?

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Pascal's eyebulbs are blue
Pascal's eyes glowed green
What color would Pascal's eyes glow to make the color green if his bulbs were blue?

Yellow
He was never disconnected

>>378845303
You can shoot out of dodge too which is very satisfying since it's basically like a shotgun

>>378870949

Why'd they hire some girl with such a qt voice for a male robot?

I tought the whole YoRHa thing looked quite like a fascists organization, a little militarized group with some fancy symbols, the discourses that happened, the glory to mankind salute, and then taro puts nazi helmets on the YoRHa units

>>378870949
Pascal is actually one of a few truly disconnected machines, he was never influenced by the network. Entire experiment was testing the limits of his pacifism and results of it.

>>378846724
How do you even need all those healing items on normal? I played this game on hard and I do think that retarded part in route C was annoying as hell but that was only because almost everything 2-shot me. On normal, this entire game should be piss easy.

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>>378871168
Aoi Yuuki's best roles are adult males.

>>378871168
His VA is made for bullying.

>>378871772
Not everyone is as good as you at video games.

>>378872418
Except I'm not even good at these games. The amount of damage enemies do on normal is pitiful and if you have auto-heal chips, you literally just need to run around for a bit till you get healed completely.

>>378848196

People are strangely bad at things in this game and I really don't get it. Aside from occasionally getting trapped in a corner and stunlocked which is remedied by the chip that turns you invincible on contact anyway this is the easiest Platinum game I've played since their days as Clover making Okami. It gives you every opportunity to stave off death. Wanna be bad at dodging? Fine auto-heal+Max HP Up x9. Wanna be a cheap ass an attack everything from a distance? Ranged Attack Up x9 and Ranged Def Up x9. Still Sucking? Get some items to boost stats a further 50%. It's not a hard game by any stretch.

>>378851564

Also basically how to tell a weeb from somebody that picked it up cause the gameplay looked cool.

Why is 2B so surpised to see the machines in the desert talking, and the rockets heading to space? Am I supposed to believe she has never met a talking machine before or the rockets?

>>378872847
The game on normal isn't hard at all. It's probably the easiest game Platinum's made. The only thing I found hard about this game was route C on hard difficulty. I'm sure my chips were garbage and I could've done better to make it easier but route C just frustrated me to no end because it didn't even feel like fair difficulty. The game just sent massive amounts of enemies towards you and I could barely tank one hit against some of the later game enemies. If I didn't use the item boosts then I was more or less fucked in most fights.

My worst experience was in one of the final towers and I was about halfway up the tower and an enemy just oneshots me from my blindside. I just felt route C on hard was not well-balanced at all.

>>378873342
She's a combat unit and quite anti-social on top of that, not a recon unit.
As far as her knowledge about the world goes, she's like a little baby compared to 9S.

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>>378855972
Shantae games don't have fanservice as their top priority. Fun characters are their top priority.

>>378873785
But shes been alive and walking around since fucking forever
Not once has she even heard mentioning of an intelligent machine?

>>378872614
>Except I'm not even good at these games.
If you beat the game on Hard, you are better than the average player. I'm not saying Normal isn't fairly easy, I'm just saying that there are many people that really, really aren't good at games.

>>378874028
>But shes been alive and walking around since fucking forever
She's alive only for 3 years, and spent most of them fighting machines.

>>378850642
No, Route A ends at the end of chapter 10.

There are 17 chapters.

The intro splash screen doesn't even begin until you start chapter 11. You didn't even beat the prologue desu.

>>378851170
Revengeance was the only other Platinum game I had played, and I remembered that I liked it and have respect for them as a developer. So I knew the gameplay would be good.

I saw 2Booty on 4chan and that's how I heard about the game, so I decided to go for it for the Platinum combat and the booty.

I fell in love with the game. It's my current GOTY, and it ranks very high on my list of favorite games in the past few years.

Way better than I expected.

>>378874164
...and during those 3 YEARS not once saw a single machine capable of speaking?

They really needed to polish the alternate camera segments more.
That one boss fight in the jihad bot factory was hellish because the boss could attack you while the camera was transitioning.
>dude's off screen for a second
>decides to do his one shot attack
>lol YOU DIED

>>378855972
>shantae
>fanservicing

The fucking game is 9.7/10

>>378844412
Funny they were my second favorite part of the game.

>>378874460
Remember, majority of machines connected to the network do not speak. The area we see in the game is unique because it houses multiple communities of disconnected machines.