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Why you're not playing Baiken's game right now?
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>>378833645
no testament
no buy
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Because I remembered I'd have to buy PSN+ to play online, got mad, and decided not to buy the game.
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So I watched After Story
Wait, the fuck, Ky is stronger than Sol?
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>>378833645
Because it's sleepytime and you're only going to attract third-world shitposters
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>>378833645
I bought Rev + Rev 2 and decided I want to learn what's going on in the story.

Started watching the movie, beginning from SIGN.

I'm having more fun watching the Guilty Gear movie than most games I've played
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Has anyone recorded the Story Mode yet?
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>>378834462
Not if you buy it on PS3 or PC nerd
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>>378835331
And fight against all 20 other players?
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>>378834463
Ky's got gear powers and has apparently not gone all out victory-or-death mode on Sol before. I'm sure Sol doing the same would still beat him, though.
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Because when I tried playing Revelator last year, I could only find matches on the east coast and the connections were 8f delay at best. I'm not going to buy an expansion so I can spend more time trying to get a good connection than playing the game.
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Because they fucked the PC netcode again and I'm waiting for the eventual patch that they're somehow unable to maintain between revisions despite having fixed it twice before.
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>>378837170
It's like Sol said, Ky basically ended the fight before it started, and didn't give Sol any time to get worked up. Sol wasn't shown pitching any of the shit that he did to Ariels towards Ky.
I wonder if Ky could withstand that 20X power Gunflame? Probably not.
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>>378838109
What moron wants to play fighting games on the internet? Get over here. Bring beer.
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>>378838484
Where do you live?
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Where's the best place to buy Rev 2 for cheap on PC?
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>>378833645
Because the game's going to die in 2 months after EVO.

Also, Baiken sucks
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>>378833645
tekken
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>>378839650
It's the most played Fighting game not called SF or Smash
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>>378839784
or Tekken, or Marvel. Anime fighting game fans are fickle minded. They jump bandwagons every time something new comes out which causes the other slightly more older game to die instantly. Look how Blazblue has no player base right now. Rev 2 is going to die when the new UNIEL comes out and that's probably going to die when a newer Blazblue comes out. It's just an infinite cycle.
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>>378839734
This
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>>378839394
Steam
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Sex
With
Baiken
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baiken sucks but answer is surprisingly cool
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mark my words, people are sleeping on baiken
the parry is basically a free blitz than can be performed even during blockstrings
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>>378841421
I think he's super cool.
I want to learn him, but I have never played a character with that fast or that much mobility and just might not be my playstyle, but sure love to watch him play.
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>>378839972
>UNIEL
>killing anything
>newer Blazblue coming out when the series is done
There's literally no competition left for guilty gear at this point
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>>378841583
I agree, I think azami has a lot of potential, but requires both good matchup and player knowledge.
Her ground normals could use some buffs though
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>>378841421
>baiken sucks
Azami was a mistake.
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>>378833645
You gonna give me $30?
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>>378841782
Why are her tits so fucking big...
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>>378842183
You need to store that ki enegry somewhere.
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Are you people kidding? Baiken is great, amazing normals, great corner combo, and you don't NEED to use her parries
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>>378842552
>make character gimmick absurdly hard to use
>b-but you don't have to use it
What kind of retarded logic is that? They should've just kept her old guard cancels. You can keep Azami as neutral tool but guard cancel azami is just crazy difficult, even fucking Sharon almost never uses it.
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>>378842704
I'm saying that even if you don't use her gimmick the character is still solid mid tier, and fun to play.

That said, I'm a beginner so I have no idea what a guard cancel azami involves, maybe it's stupidly hard.
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>>378842552
If you don't use her parries, you're better off just using someone else, it's the advantage that sets her apart.
Her air normals are pretty good, but stuff like 6P and slash buttons in ground need a buff imo.
Her mixup is weak in corner without meter if your opponent knows the matchup and pressure isn't that scary.
She has bottom 3 HP iirc.
I don't think she is bottom tier but you definitely need to utilize her parries if you want to beat good players
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>>378842774
How can you state characters' tiers if you're beginner? The problem is game design here. If you make a character with certain idea but that idea isn't working - you're doing something wrong. Character may be very strong without the gimmick, just like Raven - his stance was very weak and rarely used. But instead of fixing it they just did some weird changes to mechanic. I just don't like how Baiken who had very unique playstyle before now just another character with weird gimmick. She may be shit tier or god tier, that's not the point.
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>>378843020
Baiken beginner, never played her in any GG game. I'm tournament level with millia (they really killed her this update, btw).

>>378842813
You are right, but she's not Jam so she'll probably get a balance patch.
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>>378842704
I think the old guard cancels were bullshit and Baiken was cancer to play against, but they probably should increase the red parry catch window from 3F to something like 5F yeah
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>>378842704
>absurdly hard to use invalidates it
Didn't stop johnny players.
It will separate the cream from the crop for sure.
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>>378841714
If it's not a new Blazblue patch/version, it's going to be another similar IP. And yes, UNIEL might not completely kill Rev 2 but I guarantee you the numbers will drop significantly in term of tournament/online presence.
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Why Jack-o is considered low-tier now?
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>>378843120
It's entirely different to grind out execution for difficult combos (singleplayer stuff) than it is to catch moves with 3F window that can be activated during hitstop that requires you to know exactly what move your opponent is going to use next and will get you fucked in the ass if you miss the timing
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>>378843098
>I think the old guard cancels were bullshit
Omg I can't spam my blockstrings anymore and need to change my approach! What a fucking bullshit!
>>378843120
And you refer to what? Mist canceling? Tresure hunt combos? None of that as specific and require so much knowledge as guard cancel azami. Not even close.
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>>378843235
Baiken got away with so much just with the threat of guard cancel, you had to stop your pressure early and she would walk away for free, it was stupid for sure
Only Baiken players thought that it was a good mechanic and it's because they were using it as a crutch
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>>378843136
There's no new Blazblue coming, they've said this repeatedly. Nothing is in the works or planned to be in the works. Blazblue is done for many years they said. They have multiple other things lined up to work on which aren't Blazblue or fighting games.
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>>378843380
Yeah. But now she's useless.
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>>378843380
>Baiken got away with so much just with the threat of guard cancel, you had to stop your pressure early and she would walk away for free
And how is this bad? Just play a neutral game against her. You sound like some unga shitter who suddenly need to think instead of mashing buttons but clearly can't.
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>>378834463
LINK
LINK
WHERE
YOUTUBE?
Isn't ArcSys trigger happy with their copyright strikes? Or have you a video file on MEGA?
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>>378843494
Parries in neutral are quite useful and red parries also against multihit moves but like I said they should increase the catch window a bit
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>>378843602
You don't see a problem in a character in fucking Guilty Gear whom you can't pressure?
Winning only with neutral would be fine if her neutral was worse but it's not.
They went absolutely to the right direction with her and I say this as a current Baiken main
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>>378843494
She's not useless, Potemkin and Jam players can still make their character work, and you can certainly make baiken work. I'd say we're better off than Pot and Jam mains in fact.
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Does this guy have the coolest theme or what?!
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fLEGmIHHXQ&t=2s
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>>378843794
>You don't see a problem in a character in fucking Guilty Gear whom you can't pressure?
No? She wasn't god tier, right? So people clearly were able to fight her instead of whining.
>They went absolutely to the right direction with her
No, they are not. Making character less unique isn't good. Some people saying Baiken now just another Sol with parry gimmick.
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>>378844041
But she was top tier in +R? And 99% of the players agreed that she was annoying to fight against even if they could beat her, which is why they changed her?
She's not less unique, she just requires a brain to use now. Also a lot more fun to watch, red parries are the hypest shit
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>>378843450
Did you even read my post? I said if it's not Blazblue, it's going to be something else. It doesn't have to be Blazblue, all it takes is another pretty looking Anime fighting game and Rev 2 is on life support.
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>>378844205
>she was annoying to fight against
A lot of characters are annoying to fight against, especially new Xrd characters. Yet they don't change them just because of that.
>She's not less unique
Are you stupid or something? How is she unique now? Go watch one hour of Baiken matches and count red parries, I doubt you'll see more that 2-3. Outside of it she's just another character. Unique my ass.
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elphelt's game***

WWYD if you woke up as elphelt?
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>>378844430
Normal neutral parry get plenty of use though.

Red parry can still be a salvagable mechanic if they increase frame to reasonable amount. It's a better alternative than going back to the old guard cancel.
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>>378844472
Make the world a brighter place by being a real life pure maiden.
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>>378844430
There are no characters in Xrd that force you to fundamentally change your playstyle - the idea is still to get in and rush the shit out of your opponent, in a one way or another.
You couldn't do that against old Baiken and people didn't like it. It sucks when you get the pressure but you feel like your opponent might DP any time she wants even in blockstun.
Like I said multiple times, I think the red parry window should be increased, but you can still do all kinds of shit with parry. I even get a red parry once every few rounds and I'm new to the character.
Looks like we just have to agree to disagree about the changes, it feels like you're an old Baiken main who's mad he actually has to learn how to defend like the rest of the cast
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>>378842552
Baiken damage is great, but she effectively has on no okizeme or set ups besides IAD tatami, TK yonsansen, cross up yonsansen, and iad strings. She has telegraphed and slow zoning, and kinda stubby normals for setplay-less character comparable to other ones like sin or faust. All of her big mix ups require meter too, making her a hefty meter hog meaning she is a bit of glass cannon since her hp (one of) the lowest in the game and shouldn't spend resources defensively. You gotta learn her azami. The character is a lot worse if you ignore it.
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>>378844430
you can guard cancel into azami at any point you dumb knob. That's literally unique to her
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>>378845123
As I said even veteran players almost never do it. Timing is too strict and it requires too much knowledge of both matchup and your opponent.
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>>378844819
no you wouldnt lol
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I'm waiting for ABA, sad Baiken got gutted, but she deserved it, pretty much the original Unga of GG. They can still change her anyways.
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>>378844242
Did you read mine?
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>>378845240
Give it a few months dude, AC was played for like 10 years.
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>>378845296
ASW are not the only ones that can make Anime fighters. Are you being retarded on purpose?
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>>378845240
You asked what was unique about it and I told you about. Baiken is still extremely new too. Back when raven was new, people playing him and literally ignored his excite mechanic, and that shit (character included) is WAY easier to understand. Look at how oppressive raven can be now? Baiken is a low tier, Japan is an arcade enviroment. People are slow to adopt low tiers overthere. Dizzy and Jam were almost never seen save 1 or 2 respectively. Baiken has a lot of casual players, but only a few competitive players.
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>>378845737
It's funny how you bring Raven because people played him day one as unga vortex character and still play him the same way in Rev2 because his stance and excitement mechanics are almost useless.
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>>378845898
It's funny how you say people ignore excitement mechanics, when almost every relevant raven tries to use combos or go for reset command grabs for excitement now, even rcing command throws to double up on excitement gains AND get a full combo afterward. Do you actually pay attention to this game?
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Man these 60% May combos get me hype as fuck when I land them.
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>>378833645
Played GG yesterday and mauled most people with my Potemkin. Fucking hands messed up some pot busters though curse these mongoloid flesh shovels.
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Is the hori fighting commander good got guilty gear?
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>>378843640
No i mean i have the game. Arcsys will fuck you over if you post it on youtube.
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>>378846435
I have one of these and it served me well til I replaced my stick, I reccomend it.
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Any newfags that want to play together on steam?
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>>378847249
region?
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>>378847382
NA
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>>378835842
PS3 has crossplay with PS4.
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>>378847249
Nice try but you won't drain steam games out of me no matter how hard you ERP
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Still just using Ky and not giving a fuck. That new 6H takes some time to get used to, but man it's great.
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I feel like this is one of those games that I'll just practice execution but not very play against someone.
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>>378847505
But anon you don't like fighting games~?
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>>378847249
I usually play with shitter friends, so if you see "(players edition)" or ":-)" player lobbies, a beginner can join and probably not get bodied. Play usually around 17:00 est, 23:00 est, or 3:00 est. All the players who join are either east coast or west coast NA.
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>>378847830
Why not just post your steam so I can add you?
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>>378847923
not a newfag to the game but http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197998163088/

welcome to join any lobbies i make. Sometimes i play with really good players though, so sometimes you might just get bodied.
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>>378833645
Haven't bought Rev 2 yet but will soon for Answer.
When's Anji and ABA though?
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Rev 2 for PC
ID: 0q0h
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>>378844472
Kill myself for having such a shitty character design.
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Reminder to always use Dragon Install, Solfags
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When's this qt coming back. I need Goku Mohora in Xrd style already.
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Idk if anyone is subscribed to Jonio's youtube channel, but his stream showcased a Jam that did about a 55% combo on Slayer with a maxed card dragon kick from IAD axe kick, that also gave 50% meter from nothing. I'll try webming it if the streams weren't fucking 5+ hours long.

Also Fino losing to this Jam saddens me.
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>>378834463
Ahaha yes Ky finally wins just once
I die complete
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I'm trying to learn Dizzy but she does to little damage and her moves take way to long to start up. Should I just go learn Ram instead?
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>>378853493
you have to commit to these cute girls if you want to play them, though a zoning character like dizzy may not be for you anyways
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Because i bought Tekken 7 but it doesn't even work so now I have wasted my money and can play neither Rev 2 or Tekken 7.
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>>378853493
play sin
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>>378843095
Fuck off LordKnight, you're a washed up has been
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>>378843198
She's always been low tier. This nerf hurts her pressure with minions as the level 1 and 2 now die in a single hit.
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So what does Bacchus Sigh do? I'm guessing it slows them down?
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>>378842552
>not using baiken parries
you know that's the whole point of using her, right?
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>>378854749
Sad, she's really fun to play
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>>378854819
makes mist finer unblockable.
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>>378840180
how is goober gear more popular than injustice, tekken and mahvel?
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>>378855285
Agreed. I used her in Rev almost exclusively, but this nerf makes her worse MU Axl even more asscancer. And since two of the guys I regularly play with main him, I figured I'd just have to give her up. Now I'm playing Pot, who still has a shit MU against Axl, but at least he has better tools.
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>>378844015
ive never touched gg (nor any other animu fighter) but its soundtrack is legit sick
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>>378855285
Ignore him, nerf hurt but she was a momentum heavy character, and the buff to explosion making minions invulnerable so now you have a reason to use it. She's still mid tier. She's still strong as fuck, you just can't set houses stupidly now. She has very few bad matches, and more than a few she wins very comfortable like Zato's, Pot's and I-no's.
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>>378855449
Remember 2016 numbers? Xrd was second biggest among fighting games.
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>>378855449
Injustice 2 wasn't out at posting, nor tekken. Both are also new games, with the last two games out quite awhile ago. and marvel is a dead solved game only a small dedicated community plays.

Rev is extremely popular for airdasher, and rev only came out here a little more than a year ago, with rev 2 dropping (dropped) shortly after. Community is very tightly knit too. We -all- want rev to succeed so everyone tries to bring in as many people as possible, local or otherwise.
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I learned doing Jam's basic trial 10 combo, went to practice it and I found this out I couldn't do it without seeing my inputs / checking off the list.
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Any NA lobbies up?
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>>378855285
Explosion mindgames seem fun.
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>>378856154
This might sound autistic, but keep a combo journal. Write it out, jump onto training mode, break it down into smaller parts (this is the dust combo, right? do it up until the jump cancel first, once you get that down, slowly add the next few moves), eventually you'll be able to do it from memory. As you get better at the game and understand her gatlings and whatnot, you'll be able to improvise the combo for different effects. For example, maybe it has a different route for better meter gain, or higher damage output by ending it with her carded kicks to end out a round. Just keep practicing it and don't forget to try it against real players.
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>>378856154
Doesn't sound like you learned it then.
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>>378856771
I've basically got it down now but I felt really embarrassed that I needed it that badly.
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>>378856154
Look up her combo theory and learn that instead. It's basically >>378856771 but generally the optimal routes that have been found so far. It's still good to know what all are your gatling options and learning how to eyeball a combo so you can fix it midcombo and don't drop it due to weight or starting the combo with them too high up.
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>>378857013
Most of the trial combos aren't the combos you want to use anyway. You should look up her actual bnbs.
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>>378852397
Ky didn't give Sol the chance to go Dragon Install, then again, even still Ky wasn't going all out, Ky beat the shit out of Sol because he talked shit about his waifu, you know you can't do that. I still can't believe Ariels is still alive,what are they going to do with her now then? Oh well, at least people who like Jack-O's style of gameplay will have Happy Chaos to use from now on
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I wanted to play Millia in this game, but the update made her too smart for a fighting game newfag.
Probably just going to play Raven or Jack-O now.
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>>378857331
what did they change
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>>378857114
Someone told me her dust combo was a good one to practice.
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>>378833645

I'll get Rev2 next week or so, just bought Tekken 7.

Gonna make those two my fightans of choice
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>>378857492
pin required for her bnb iad combos to knockdown so after the j.d IAD now it's character specific button (usually j.h or j.s), pin, land, 6h, disc, pick up pin, okizeme

I think that's all she's changed but it's a big one.
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>>378857114
The dust combos are the few that should be learned.
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>>378857114
Basic strings like 2k c.s 2d are usually vitally core strings, Blitz crumples aren't bad, all the dust combos are fine, and everyone's advance trees usually have some practically useful to bnb stuff. for sol weight anyway. Combos really need to add combo specific for the dummy, at least for the weight classes.
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>>378834463
Ky isn't necessarily stronger. Ky said it himself that he just duels sol. That means comparing who has best skills or power levels. Thats why sol said ky was just "playing" because he could actually be better.

But Ky actually won because he was basically fighting dirty. Like he said "unfairness and deceit".

>before fight proper ky rushed sol and neck stab would probably be dead
>fight proper, ky stabbed him in the foot so sol couldn't fucking move
>then used that to disassemble fireseal so no dragon install
>the smashing of the hilt into sol's face with necessary bonus of throwing debries into said face to blind sol
>FINISH HIM

So yeah, its quick and dirty
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>>378857793
oh fug
well whatever, i'll put in the work
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Do you think we'll get another character after EVO? Maybe Robo Ky?
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Because I'm not FGC, I can't play them. I just fap to the porn.
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Because I'm playing Tekken.
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>>378859784
>they rather make 5+hour, average anime movie than make a new character

Their mouth flaps and backgrounds look off. Hell, I'd rather they try to do 2D anime work like from when they made the XX opening.
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>>378860376
Story mode is alright, but I'd much rather have more characters.
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