Nintendo once again saves gaming industry

Does this mean I can play pikmin 2 multiplayer and mk64 online?

>>378833149
Nintendo once again ruins the industry

>>378833285
spbp

>>378833285
>Nintendo ever ruining the industry
>except for the Wii

>>378833228
yep.

>backpedal on a monumental dick move decried by everyone
>saving the industry
Please stop sucking so much cock

>$20 a year for something that should be free
>BUT I CAN PLAY BALLOON FIGHT AND URBAN CHAMPION B A S E D

>>378833149
Why does anyone care about old games? Most of them are full of bullshit that wastes your time and you can emulate them for free anyways if you really want to.

so PS plus?
Ok got it

>Nintendo once again falling into line of current console trends

>>378833149
Let me guess: it only works with NES and SNES like the original plan and anything after that will still cost 20 times what it's actually worth.

>>378833228
>>378833348
no it's only NES games stop spreading misinformation

it's literally only NES games with SNES games possibly in the pipeline and no mention of anything beyond that

>>378833149
I know this is bait like every other nintendo cocksucking thread but to even joke about charging people for an online service that quite lierally does not work and think that offering timed downloads of ROMS that nintendo downloaded from the internet is worth money only serves to make you look like a drone

i think the initial deal that they offered was a testing the water kind of thing.
social media is so strong that customers voices are heard nowadays.
Not that i care anyway since what nintendo game i will play on...oh...they releasing monster hunter on the switch arent they? fuck.

>>378833414
No one cares about old games. It's just a justification for sucking Nintendo's cock.

>>378833414
its just a side bonus for the online service, so at least when you're getting fucked in the ass they lube you up beforehand.

>>378833346
the wii had 0 lasting impact on the industry, the userbase moved onto mobile shit and motion controls are pushed aside/will fuck off by next gen or forever be mitigated to minor/optional shit

>>378833445
I remember when the VC was the same. It's just Nintendo covering their asses in case it ends up not being popular. Once it takes off they will put in the effort for almost anything, especially if there is a large demand.

>>378833445
according to the release it is N64 and gamecube as well.

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>>378833346
>>378833617
adding onto this, THIS piece of shit did far more lasting damage

I hope the scorpio bombs so MS can fuck off from the console industry

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>>378833149
Nintendo fans once again show they have become worse than Sony fans, a feat that is difficult to accomplish.
>look at us guys we get to pay for something we shouldn't have to pay just like you, but now it's okay because we pay less (while having to use a phone app and having shitty online quality) and get to play games made in the 80s you can download offline for free!
>haha, Nintendo saving the industry as always!

>>378833617
>the wii had 0 lasting impact on the industry
>kinect
>psmove
>vr shite
>massive casualization of almost everything

>Access to one NES/SNES game a month before it's taken away
Iwata's idea

>Unlimited access to a library of old games so long as you maintain an active subscription
Kimishima's idea

>>378833709
No one takes motion controls seriously anywhere. VR only uses it because it's the peripheral that makes sense with head motion based gameplay.

>>378833709
>>kinect
>>psmove

both of which arn't a thing anymore so I don't know why you posted them

>VR

never even set off the ground, dead on arival and had nothing to do with the wii

>casualization
was an industry wide change starting with the 360 before the wii even came out

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you can play these games you can easily emulate for FREE. JUST PAY 20 BUCKAROOS AND YOU WILL GET FREE ROMS!

Did I mention it was FREE?

NINTENDO WINS AGAIN BABY :D

>>378833149
>paid online
>saves gaming

>>378833676
I will always fucking despise Microsoft for showing Sony and now Nintendo that paid online was ok

>>378833617
>the wii had 0 lasting impact on the industry

You really are a clueless fucking idiot. Uneducated little shitstains like you annoy the fuck out of me. You understand nothing.

>>378833149
jason schreier is a piece of living garbage and i hope he gets eaten by a shark
i don't even have anything to say about nintendo, i just wanted to point out that he is a piece of shit

>>378833830
You should despise the retarded cattle-like goyim too that actually paid money to use their own internet connection despite all the competitors offering it for free

Or how about you leave online free considering that they have no multiplayer games that needs a online infrastructure worth paying for?

>>378833983
This. The retards enabled this, of course the corporations are going to take advantage.

Playing classic games online sounds cool. Sucks you have to pay 20 bucks for it. Fuck off with paid online.

>>378833676
>not wanting the scorpio to be a powerhouse to get those delicious Sony nigger tears.

>>378834013
monster hunter

>>378834149
MH doesn't even use Nintendo servers.

>>378833149

>Microsoft and Sony give you modern games
>Nintendo gives you fucking SNES games you can emulate on your phone

Why is this fucking allowed

>>378834194
>SNES

No they give you NES games. Can't you read?

>playing shitty emulators on pc that dont even capture the original color, pixel count and pacing

fuck off sony nigger pc weebs

>>378834194
Maybe they would if they had any games to give.

I had fun when we had dolphin threads and we were playing Mario Party together online, hope it's even easier and better performing with this

>>378834271
The virtual console doesn't do any of this either.

>>378834309
yes it does

>>378834271

>M-MUH ORIGINAL FEELS

Yeah, good luck with that. Meanwhile I can mod the games to be native 60 FPS at 1440p. Why? Because I can.

friendly reminder /v/ is the reason paid online is even a thing
you faggots gave microsoft money to play halo and cod4 now there's even been nostalgia threads about those games

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>>378834194
Microsoft and Sony don't have 30 years of gaming history silly child

>one shit "it's free but you don't actually own anything, even a license" set up replaced with another of the same set up

wow

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What's your favorite damage control for this so far? Here's some I've seen:
>m-maybe the app won't be required
>who cares about an app or having voice chat, I'll just use Discord or some other messaging service
>muh "free" games just like Sonybros
>Nintendo NEEDS to do this, they're hurting for cash!

>>378834502
more people gave microsoft money than just /v/

>>378834596
no one even talks or brings that up even more, you're reaching

>>378834634
>no one even brings that up anymore
If you mean the free games, yes they do.
>>378833953

This seems like a good deal, on the condition that I get every single digital game for free on the Switch forever. That means anytime they introduce a new game, I get to instantly play it without paying money. Otherwise it's just another unnecessary cost.

>>378834101
It won't change the fact that the XBOX has zero games to play. Unless Microsoft comes out at E3 and announces that all the cancelled games were an April Fools, and they are indeed coming out soon.
>>378834194
The fact that they STILL don't have voice chat blows my mind. This cell phone horseshit is crazy. Who thought that was a proper solution to this problem?

>>378834596
>Nintendo hurting for cash.

Nintendo have enough money in the bank to make a $250million loss every year until 2075 before they go out of business.

>>378834790
You sound like a brat

>>378834774

They're just misusing terms like morons. The proper terminology is "complimentary".

>>378833558
Is it different from Xbox Live or PSN?

>>378833149
>it's okay when Nintendo does it

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>mfw Nintendo fanboys have somehow manage to become worse than Sony fanboys
I didn't think it was possible.

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>>378834835

Good, I hope I sound like that, because unlike a child, I pay for my video games, and my hardware, and apparently now they're asking me to pay for my online service, AGAIN. So I think I'll continue sounding like a "brat" as long as my money is on the line here.

I want the corporate shills to leave.

>>378833149
>nintendo pulls a complete bullshit move
>everyone shits on them
>backpedals hard
>OMG NINTENDO SAVING GAMING AGAIN XDDD
nintendo will jew you as hard as they can if they think they can get away with it

>All this shitposting for $20
Seems OP was right

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>>378834820
>to make a $250million loss every year until 2075 before they go out of business.
You have absolutely no fucking idea what you are talking about, silly Nintendownie.
Take economics 101 on how publicly traded companies are run and how their worth is estimated before you make a clown out of yourself.

Share price =/=net worth=/=fixed assets=/=current assets=/=working capital.

>>378834101
the scorpio could be the strongest console of this gen and the next one, it wouldn't matter. No exclusives = no reason to buy a console

In merely 9 months of its lifespan, the Switch will have more worthwhile exclusives than the xbone did its entire life span and that's fucking sad

>>378835263

Care to list some of these "exclusives"? and mind you, you can't name any games that the Xbox might have, since apparently those kinda don't count in your comparison. Which means the following:

>no multiplayer games
>no story heavy games
>no casual games
>no indies
>no multiplats
>no SJW pandering games

Unfortunately, this is all the Switch AND Xbox can offer.

>>378835252
Oh really?

http://nintendotoday.com/nintendo-not-doomed/

>Buried in reams of financial data is the revelation that Nintendo have 812.8 billion Yen (£6.7/$10.5 billion) in the bank – enough for it to take a 20 billion Yen loss (£163/$257 million) every year until 2052. Then there’s almost 469 billion Yen (£3.8/$6.0 billion) held in premises, equipment and investments. When that runs out – we’re in the year 2075 by this point – they’ve got some of the most valuable intellectual property in gaming to sell off before the company goes out of business.

How does it feel to get BTFO?

>>378835386
can you rephrase your post? I don't know what you're saying

>>378835252
>>378835467

REKT. And i imagine that picture is even rosier now in light of the switch's success. I guess Nintendo will outlive us all.

>>378835552

Let me rephrase it this way: The Switch is no better than the Xbox or Ps4, and it's library is just as bad.

>>378835718
first year of the switch exclusives to look for:
-Arms
-splatoon 2
-mario odyssey
-SMT
-xenoblade 2
-FE

Xbone lifespan worthwhile exclusives:
-halo 5

>>378835718
>>378835781
I won't even bother posting all the ps4 worthwhile exclusives either, you're deluded if you think the ps4's library is "just as bad" ad the xbone or have never touched a ps4

Nintendo fans truly are the worst.
At least the things Sony fans say you never hear outside of /v/ because it's mostly just shitposting. The kind of delusion I hear on here related to Nintendo I hear in other places too, and it's cancerous.

>>378835781

See, this is what I'm talking about. These games aren't worthwhile, at least if we go by the metric that makes most Xbox games bad.

>Arms
>splatoon
I see esports, but not video games. How is this any different from the latest 5 halo rehashes?

>mario Odyssey
After the abysmal 3D World, I expect only casualization for the wider audience.

>SMT
>Xenoblade
>FE
Excuse me anon, I asked for games, not movies.

>>378835993
honestly this wasn't even worth a reply but I'll give it to you anyway. Don't bother responding I won't reply anymore

>>378834596
>who cares about an app or having voice chat, I'll just use Discord or some other messaging service
But that's legitimate

Rest is idiotic though

>>378836035

>no counterargument

what did anon mean by this?

>>378833149
Why would anyone want to rent old games?

>>378833149
Schreier changed quite a bit since I last saw picture of him. Not for the better at all.

>>378834930
They've always been worse, you would know this if you were here before /vp/ existed.

>>378835781
SMT and Fire Emblem aren't coming in the first year.

>>378836559
first year =/= 2017, Q1 still counts as the first year

>>378833409
If free online is such a big thing.. Why did the Wii U fail so hard?

>>378836835

because it had a terrible game lineup and even worse hardware?

>>378834857
a little bit in that you will be able to play any one of the classic games that they put on the service regardless of when you start your subscription


looks like there will be more games added to the service as time goes on, but for now it's just the ones they've mentioned

>>378836835
The Wii U's failings had fuck all to do with online functionality.

>>378837225

and when you say I can play any of the classic games, does that mean they're free? I don't have to pay a single penny after the subscription fee?

>>378834596
Whenever emulation is brought up the counter-argument is always "But you can play these online!" as if you can't do that with emulators (and as if Nintendo's online isn't going to be unplayable garbage as usual).

I'm a Sonyfriend, but the access to VC games for $20 a year sounds like a steal for non-piratefags.

>>378837318
seems to be how it works, of course you're only able to play them while you have a subscription, when the subscription ends you won't have access to it

people have been describing it like netflix

>>378837178
No, that isn't true, so it must be something else.

>F-Zero GX with online
>for free

my GOD

>>378836835
you couldn't even message or send game invites to people on your friends list for fuck's sake

Well that IS much better

>>378835664
Nintendo has outlive 4 presidents

>Nintendo is making you pay for online even though the fucking original Xbox still outdoes their service

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>soon Nintendo will charge you a monthly fee to play all the games you already bought

>>378833149
holy shit i have faith in nintendo again

>>378837592
That doesn't make sense and probably isn't legal

>>378836835
Do you guys understand that most people outside of the video game newsgroup bubble had no idea what the wii u even was, or that it existed at all? N dropped the ball hard with marketing that thing

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>the same company that called me an entitled asshole for not liking Paper Mario: color splash
>now they think they have the gall to ask for my business

I think I'll continue emulating your products for a great price of 0 dollars, you two-bit hacks.

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>>378833149
I did netplay with my friends a decade ago with ZSNES.

>>378837761
>the same company that called me an entitled asshole for not liking Paper Mario: color splash


when did they do this, honestly curious.

>>378837826

Any of Tanabe's reviews days after launch. He also does the same for Metroid: Federation Force.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paCY1eQNAjs

>>378833445
Literally lies

It's been confirmed to be launching with Super Mario Sunshine, F Zero GX and Majoras Mask

>>378833149
>paid online
>doing the same exact thing Microsoft is doing with Xbox Game Pass
>saving gaming
Fucking kill yourself, you drone.

>>378834194
Because it's okay when Nintendo does it. :^)

>>378837918
Christ, i didn't realize he was behind federation force as well.

this dude has been fucking up my favorite series for years now, fuck this dude.

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>>378833149
>Nintendo saves the industry
>By being so lazy and uncreative they don't even bother remastering/remaking their games and just do straight ports

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Nintendy with the original ideas again...

>>378833149
Nintendo fans speak up in numbers and Nintendo makes a change. Thank you to everyone who didn't suck Nintendo's dick and made a decent change.

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>>378837459

This is the first thing I thought of. This shit better have GC games, shit was a decade and a half ago I think it is time.

Didn't PlayStation do this 4 years ago?

>>378833149
>p2p multiplayer
>still makes you pay

>>378837918
Is it wrong that I like Sakamoto better, despite the shit stain that is Other M?

>>378833149
>Reading the Twitter of that fucking jew

>>378838489
it's okay when sony does it
60 million consoles sold is the proof

>>378837918
I don't think I hear him calling anyone an entitled asshole.

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Man, Jason used to look young as fuck and I blamed that on why he couldn't sort his life out/had such rabid virgin opinions... but now... just look how old he looks.

>>378837713
This, I was in Walmart a few months ago when the switch was really getting marketed hard in stores. One of those annoying television salesmen caught me and I managed to just make a bit of small talk, talked about the Switch, the fact it's replacing the Wii u already. Guy thought I was talking about the Wii, had no idea the Wii u even existed.

>>378833770
>No one takes motion controls seriously anywhere
They should. I can unironicly say that Splatoon has the best control scheme for FPS games. Controllers lack the fine aiming and M&KB lack the fine movement. And the mouse can be too godlike.

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>>378838971

>M&KB lack the fine movement

which is why Splatoon's jittery trash has a reset button you have to constantly use?

>>378833384

>being a tripfag

Fuck off

>>378839025
If you're trash. Unlike lifting the mouse.

>>378833149
So they just copied ps+ and xbox gold 1:1 instead of the ridiculous shit they had planned before? Good for them I guess?

>>378839204

At least I can fine tweak and modify my mouse for personal use, and lifting a mouse is nothing compared to holding a board perfectly still for 10 minutes, causing the camera to spazz out if you so much as slightly move it.

>>378836161
How are you supposed to argue with someone who, when presented with a videogame, says it is not a videogame?

There's obviously something fundamentally wrong with the train of thought that can't be fixed with a conventional conversation.

>>378833149
Sounds to me like they just did PS+. Am I wrong?

>>378839402

>when presented with a videogame, says it is not a videogame?
A product like Mario is a video game. A casual one, but a video game. But you can't pass off a cinematic experience like Bayonetta or Xenoblade or SMT as a game. Might as well call Uncharted a game too while we're at it. Where does it end?

>>378833676
Scorpio will bomb if they keep their promises. Locking the frame rate to match the base Xbone AND keeping all games released for it playable on the base Xbone?

No fucking way that will sell. Whether consumers will tolerate MS's lies if they break that promise is another matter entirely.

>>378833384
>GladiumTonitrua
I really hate asshole weeb cunts like you.

I can't even remember the last slight that pushed me over the edge, but I still hate Nintendo for whatever dumb thing they did to make me hate them! No forgiveness!

>>378833414
A lot of current switch owners are 30+ and we grew up on the nes and nes games online is fucking awesome

>>378833415
Except its only $20 a year

>>378833487
Jealous much?

>>378839679

And on principle, how is that any different from paying 60 bucks a year, aside from the obvious literal 40 dollar difference in price? I can afford both with but a single day's wage, but why should I? Why should I give either company even one penny for an online service they don't improve in any way?

>>378837826
You're replying to ACfag
>>378834930
As someone who is still a Nintendo fan and continues to encounter and interact with other Nintendo fans, there is no fanbase worse than Nintendo fans. Fire Emblem fans, Metroid fans, Smash fans, Mario fans, Zelda fans, Star Fox fans, Pokemon fans, and everything in between, they're all just complete faggots in every possible way, most of them have only played one fucking game in their respective series and champion that game as the best entry ever. The only Nintendo fanbase that isn't cancer is the Kirby fanbase.

>>378833546
The majority of switch owners are adults and grew up on the classic new games

>>378839810
Source to that claim?

I'm 31, and my first console was the SNES, then the N64, then the GameCube. Didn't hop off Nintendo until the PS2 (which I got a year after the GC), and I still bought the Wii after the PS3 and the Wii U before getting the PS4, and I have no interest in the Switch.

I'd be interested to know what kind of adults are interested in the switch and why.

>>378833149
This is like how Sony got M$ with the used games thing. Now it's nintendo showing up sony.

Personally, I think Nintendo is fine for doing this. Sony and Microsoft have been doing this same thing for years, requiring more money, and still offering "free" games (which is a nice perk, regardless).

If Nintendo started this and Microsoft and Sony followed suit, I'd still be happy, as getting more for your money would be a nice thing.

Overall, id still like to see multiplayer to be free overall, but I understand how companies work.

At 20 bucks a year, I think even the most poor families (who scraped enough together to get a switch) can cobble together a little under 2 bucks a month for multiplayer fun.

As for the game selection, NES games still seem to be extremely popular (just look at the nes classic), and Nintendo has a huge library of games that people will love to play or try for the first time.

I don't understand all the hate. I really wish Sony and Microsoft would open up their retro libraries substantially with their subscriptions and then offer a few modern games on top.

ITT seething sonybros

>>378839809
You fucking with me? The Kirby fanbase is exactly how you described.

>>378839985

>I don't understand all the hate

see>>378840014

Your inability to let anyone criticize things that they consider to be an issue is why people are angry.

>>378835386
Arms ,slaptoon 2 ,Mario Odyssey, xenoblade chronicles 2,fire emblem warriors,and that's just to name a few wait till after e3 all the childish sony fans will want a switch too lol

>>378840057
...That was completely irrelevant to his post. You roll in from Stupidville or something?

Because you're acting exactly like the bait described: seething.

>>378835386
And PS4 and PC, going by your list.

>>378839797
Weak bait

>>378840157
>>378840207

How is it irrelevant? People are describing tons of issues that they have with this, how they don't want to pay for online just to get multiplayer, how they hate when sony and MS did this, how they see no positives to this whatsoever. But you and him (if you're not the same guy) choose to ignore every single criticism to call people sonybros.

>>378833676
The Xbox fans is the biggest idiots known to man.And they fucking know it.
Why else would they no longer post.

>>378840095

>Arms
>splatoon
I said no muiltiplayer games.

>Mario
I said no casual games.

>Xenoblade
>fire Emblem
Damnit anon, I said GAMES, not movies.

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>>378837972
Anon please. At least provide sauce for that claim.

>>378840306
>it only counts if I say so :^)

>>378840361
Ignore him.
He's too taken in with AAA games that he doesn't know what a real game is.

>>378837972
Got a sauce?

>>378839936
Adults with family's ..adults that don't have time to sit in front of TV all day gaming ..we can just grab the switch for a quick hour session or so without taking up the TV ..or use the switch at lunch break etc and its a shame you didn't have a nes you missed out on great times

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>>378840361

>these games never counted when someone listed them for other consoles
>but for some reason now they count for the Switch

>>378840293
Because none of them browse /v/

I only know two people who have an Xbone, one's an idort the other uses it literally for FIFA and Netflix so yeah. They have nothing to discuss.

It's a good thing KI is on PC at least.

>>378833830
Plenty of other reasons to hate MS, too. Windows is based off a 2 decade old kernal (debuted in July 1993) that was never meant to deal with the internet (despite the internet hitting consumers literally a month later). Add that to their spyware that is Windows 10, and the pieces of shit that are Windows phones/tablets, and there is very little MS has done right, yet they still keep managing to get by (just like with the Xbone).

>paid subscription
>no limit to games you can play

Nintendo just won and just in time. Sony was poisonous this generation.

>>378839797
You don't understand capitalism do you..lol...wow you make $80 dollars a day good for you maybe soon you can move out of your moms basement

>>378840427
I'm married. Have been for 6 years. Work 40 hours per week. Still no interest in the Switch. My Vita, the wife's PSPgo, and our shared 3DS is more than good enough, especially when you combine it with timewasters on smart phones.

>>378840245
I never called anyone a Sonybro. I just don't understand why people are so genuinely mad. It seems like something so trivial to actually get mad over. Disappointed? Sure, that's fine. But I'm willing to bet there are people in this thread who are getting headaches and punching things because of a company's decision to do something.

I'm saying I don't understand why the hate is there, not the fact people are pointing out reasons to be upset.

I'm right on board with them, I even say I'd rather have free access and no "bonuses". I'm just not pissed off about it.

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>>378840535
>He thinks people only earn $80 a day
I'm not who you're arguing with, but you must be underage banned as fuck.

>the amount of asshurt in this thread
It might not be Nintendo saving the industry but it certainly is a much better offering than what Sony or MS are offering. It costs like a couple dollars a month (from what I understand) and yeah, you can emulate the games but you can also pirate the indietrash that you get via ps+ and Xbox gold. You can also pirate most of the stuff on Netflix but that service is pretty fucking popular.
Yes online play should be free but right now that's not the standard for consoles.

>>378840692
You are braindead.

>>378840541
So you have a 3ds but you don't want a switch...that make no sense ...you obviously like to game and your into Nintendo so do yourself a favor a find a switch because it truly is the best and most powerful portable out right now and it gives you console quality games something that other handhelds cant

>>378840535
I make 46.50 per hour and live in a town where rent averages 400/month. The reason I'm not paying for PS+, despite having a PSP, a Vita, a PS3, a PS4, and a PSTV is out of principle. The same principle that had me pick up a PS3 instead of a 360, and a Wii U until Nintendo killed it off and introduced the Switch (at which point, I got a PS4).

>>378840584

>I just don't understand why people are so genuinely mad
Because of this reasoning right here. Your inability to understand why the PAYING CUSTOMER DOESN'T WANT TO PAY MORE? That right there is a key element in why they're pissed. You refuse to show any sympathy for anyone who isn't on your side. Infact, let's take a gander at some replies to the people who weren't too keen on paying another online fee.

>LOL SONY AND MS DO IT STOP COMPLAINING
>WHAT ARE YOU POOR GET A JOB FAGGOT
>UNDERAGE ASK YOUR MOMMY FOR AN ALLOWANCE

Why should I even give anyone ITT a considerate response when this strawmen laden shitposting is all I'll be met with?

>>378840770
How much are you being paid an hour? Are you the underage banned that earns $80 a day?

>>378840769
Nice argument there anon. Don't even address his post at all.

>>378840770
To be fair, my 3DS hasn't seen 20 hours of gameplay from me. My wife got it for Scribblenauts and to try out Pokemon. I picked up Link Between Worlds for it, and never even beat it. I'm excited for Ever Oasis, though (loved the Mana series growing up).

My Vita saw more gameplay, but I'd still put it at under 100 hours total.

>>378833641
>according to the release it is N64 and gamecube as well.
Why do you faggots think Gamecube VC is happening? The Switch isn't powerful enough to emulate it and they would need to being out gamecube joycons to play

>>378840835
I'm on salary so I don't do the hourly thing ..I make 120k a year

>>378840692
>You can pirate all of this, excluding online gameplay
Maybe if you had friends in real life, you'd understand you can play multiplayer offline.

>>378840930
>The Switch isn't powerful enough to emulate
A toaster can emulate the cube anon.

>>378840976
I make ten times that.

>>378840930
>and they would need to being out gamecube joycons to play
Why on earth would they have to do that.

>>378833414
Shit underage /v/ says

>>378841009
>A toaster can do x
Literally always a lie PC fags say about every game

>>378833414
Because the old games had far more effort put into them maybe?

>>378841314
It's not a joke.
It's ridiculously easy to emulate cube games

>>378839595
>>378839130
>defending schreirer
as dumb as tripfag is, really man?

>>378840804
Yeah you make 46.50 rubels an hour sucking off greasy fat men now fuck off and die.

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>>378841396
>defending a tripfag

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>>378837972
And all Mario karts till Wii

>>378840827
You are completely misunderstanding what I'm saying, and you're trying to steer this into a different direction.

I'm talking about how the actual emotion of rage and anger seems a bit over the top for a payment to use an entertainment device through a network to play video games with other people.

If this was a mandatory thing in your taxes, or something that you invested money into and then the company dropped it suddenly, then I can understand an anger such as this.

Ultimately, this really doesn't affect someone's life as much as some people are making it seem. That is the point I'm making.

I await your response that completely takes everything I say out of context.

>>378841158
Because the Switch joycons don't have analog triggers and you can't just say "use l and r for soft presses and zl and zr for full presses" because there's no room for the Gamecube controller's Z button.
>inb4 map it to the minus button
Not going to work nicely for games that use it regularly like Melee if it were to come out

>>378833409
20 dollars for Wi-fi that isn't utter shit is better than free crappy Wi-fi, no?

That's better than what they said previously, at least. I wish psnow would function that way with PS+, but I guess the cost would probably go up again and people would bitch about it.

Paid online is shit no matter what.

>>378841496
Dollars. Not rubles. Why do you have a problem with people who make choices out of principle?

>>378841631
>Because the Switch joycons don't have analog triggers
You mean those things that weren't put to any good use and still aren't.
They don't need them.

>>378838361
man, update that shit

besides, even if nintendo didn't do it FIRST
its HISTORY that they did shit like the D Pad and Analog Stick BEST

yeah
without the N64 and Mario 64, we wouldn't be playing the games we are today because NINTENDO perfected 3D gameplay right the FIRST TIME

anyone who tries to say otherwise wasn't alive to play Mario 64 on release.

>>378841567
hello there, klepek

>>378841720
They're needed for Luigi's Mansion and Super Mario Sunshine, which would surely be high-priority Gamecube games.

>>378834930
you honestly believe that to don't you

>>378841054
Lol in your dreams buddy

>>378841591

>I'm talking about how the actual emotion of rage and anger seems a bit over the top for a payment
It's all about the slippery slope. You can call it a fallacy, but it's something we're watching in motion right now. You say it's a deal because it's "only 20 dollars" right? Well that's what sony fans said with PSN when it was "only 50 dollars". Sony saw this and was like "is that so? Time to raise the price!" And would you look at that? Despite paying more, my security is still complete ass. they've lost my credit card info multiple times, but thankfully after the first I tore up the card and did a chargeback, but a 150 dollar loss is something I don't take lightly, even if I make more than that per job. It's the principle of the thing that my money was thrown out the window while Sony did not improve the service I paid for. nintendo is doing the exact same thing with friend codes and terrible network infrastructure, mountains of DLC, terrible hardware, you name it. They have the balls to ask for more money after this? And you question why people are angry?

>If this was a mandatory thing in your taxes,
If you want to play online, then yes, it is kind of mandatory.

And yet you still won't understand why people are angry. You'll gladly throw mountains of money at Nintendo because it means nothing to you. Probably didn't even work for it, so what weight will it hold?

I expect the "get a job poorfag" responses now, so I'll just leave the discussion as is, thank you.

>>378841851
You might want to replay those games anon.

>>378833149
Yeah but it's only NES games dumbass. Nintendo fail again.

>>378836356
>>378839809
>>378834930
How delusional can you get?

>>378841951
Don't take Sonygros seriously.

>>378841949
Not confirmed to be only NES games. Dumbass

>>378833676
Best console that gen.

>>378842393
Not in my opinion, or by sales.

>>378842470
>or by sales
With sales there's more to consider than just units sold.

>>378842345
NES only, possibly SNES in the future. That means in 2 years they will add about 3 SNES games and that'll be it. You're retarded if you think otherwise.

>>378842586
Nice source dumbass.
It's like you're ignoring every system with VC games.

>>378833149
I'm still not sure if I got this right, the quote is a bit vague. So it's literally PS+ but with NES games? New ones get added each month, are added to your library and you get to play them forever as long as you're subscribed?

>>378840930
LMAO my rapsberry pi 3 for 40$ can emulate gamecube

>>378841775
That image is just bait, anon.

>>378841892
I don't own a switch, and I don't intend on picking one up any time soon. I had a 360 and an xbone and dropped those because I didn't want to pay for the access.

I didn't want to pay for my access to ps+ but I didn't want to pay anymore so I stopped.

I don't like paying for online, which is why I don't like multiplayer games. But I still don't understand why there is such livid anger over something that is completely optional and really adds nothing to your life. Yes, it genuinely stinks that everything is becoming a pay to play service, but that's just how this business works. I don't agree with it, but I understand why companies do it.

Not everyone can afford it, and that blows. But it doesn't seem like something I would get that furious over, when it's completely optional, and there are other options to playing with others online.

>>378842580
You think the 360 made more of a profit than Nintendo did with the Wii?

>>378842750
There's nothing saying it's just NES games but the way that seems to be implying is that you get access to the entire library of classic games whenever you have an active sub rather than the way PS+ does it.

>>378833228
That would be heaven

>>378841808
?

>>378842972
Of course not.
The PS3 on the other hand.

>>378843086
Ok, then. My "by sales" claim matches up, then.

>>378839809
>The only Nintendo fanbase that isn't cancer is the Kirby fanbase
>Not the Yoshi fanbase
>Not the Rhythm heaven fanbase
>Not the Warioware fanbase Barring Ashleyfags
>Not the Unpopular Ip's Fanbases like Boxboy

>>378833149
all those games combined weight 4gb top and can all be emulated on a phone worth 2 cents, what's the point ?

>>378843478
>all those games combined weight 4gb
Why did you say this like it was a bad thing?
Do you honestly think that games with a fuckton of unnecessary bloat is a good thing?

>>378839629
>playing NES games online

Wait for them to backpedal on this to mean that you play them online as in it requires a DRM

>>378833676
Fuck me, the games were just so good

Halo 3 and reach, gears, and they had a good selection of fighters like the soulcal games, street fighter and skullgirls

Also CoD zombies at the time

If the games werent so good they wouldnt have gotten away with it

>>378843606
It should be hitting you right now

>>378843596
no, I just wanted to underline that it's super easy to get them and store them

>>378833803
the only thing interesting was updated online functionality, but then again I doubt it will be anything more than the usual netplay which is already a thing on emulators

>>378833149
Seriously, no shitposting, I thought this console was going to bomb, i really did, and i was really hoping it would so ninshitstain could learn their lesson and we could get good nintendo consoles like the NES-GC era again

But no, you fuckers just had to suck that fucking nintencock

The console has one game right now, FUCKING ONE, and it's not even exclusive to it

You retards could have gotten that ONE game on the Wii U, which nintendo already tricked you into buying, and gotten better performance out of it too, while also getting use out of the damn thing

Congrats, this is the future you fuckwipes chose, the next nintendo console is literally going to be a gaming phone, hope you're happy with it

>>378835252
>Nintendo is publicly traded

Ayy wassup no it aint mr pseudo intellectual nintendo stocks are only traded through the Tokyo and Osaka exchanges

>>378844151
>the next nintendo console is literally going to be a gaming phone, hope you're happy with it
I've wanted this for a long time, but it probably won't happen.

>>378844427
>wanting a gaming phone

Wha.. fucking why

Fuck this. Nothing good has come out of gaming since 2006. I'm done. I'm throwing in my towel and heading over to /vr/. Later fuckers. Enjoy the cancer that is the modern gaming industry.

>>378833149
Schrierier has aged like, 2 decades in the last 3 years.
>>378838361
I'm on a video game history wanderlust right now so this activated my avacados. Thanks anon.

>paying for ROMs and online
Prove to me nintendr*nes don't slurp every turd nintendo shits out

>>378844463
I mostly play on handhelds and I like the idea of both my phone and handheld being consolidated into 1 device. That's it really.

>>378844613
>it's a sonybro being hypocritical episode

>>378833149
>as long as they have an active subscription
What are they gonna do? make it mandatory to do an online account check before i can play dr mario?

>>378833414
Those old games are unironically better than the post-PS4 indie trash that makes up the PS+ instant games collection.

I'll also point out that paying for online is complete and utter bullshit. Even for Nintendo.
But don't you shit on the games.

How much does the service cost?

>>378844909
20 a year, 8 for 3 months, 4 for 1 month.

>>378844909
Two dollars a month, give or take.

>>378844613
That's XBL and PS+ in a nutshell only they give you shit games for a higher price

>>378844970
I expected it to be way more expensive, good to know, thanks anon

>>378844754
>implying I ever paid for online in my life
I don't enable shitty practices unlike you turd munchers.

>>378844994
>b-but Sony
>b-but Microsoft

>>378845163
>b-but Sony
>>b-but Microsoft
What about them?

>>378845229
I don't know, you mentioned them, so tell me.

>>378838971
>splatoon
>FPS
Nigga are you retarded

>>378845352
You don't know.
Then why make a post like that?

>>378839539
>a cinematic experience like Bayonetta or Xenoblade or SMT as a game

what the fuck am I reading?

>>378845834
It's ACfag
Basically he thinks that if a game has more than an hour of collective cutscenes it's a movie. Even if it has gameplay in the hundreds

>>378838971
>Splatoon
>FPS

>>378840930
>The Switch isn't powerful enough to emulate it and they would need to being out gamecube joycons to play
???

Did you forget that even the Wii U could emulate Wii games?

>>378844818
Actually this.

My friend had a ton of ps+ games and maybe 2 out of 4 years worth of those games were actually good.

>>378846252
Were the good ones all early release games?

>>378839797
The difference is 40 dollars.

>80 dollars is a days wage

That sucks

>>378841393
This. I was able to emulate wind waker (1080p with little lag) on my previous PC that I built back in 2010. The Switch might be weak but to think it isn't able to emulate games from a console that came out 15something years ago is just idiocy.

>>378841851
Not true. They were indeed used. But they were never NEEDED.

>>378846239
The WiiU literally had a Wii built in, you fucking retard. There was no need for Wii emulation.

>>378840804
Out of curiosity what do you do? and where do you live.
I make shit, and the rent where I live is at least 1200 a month for some shithole

Much better than "Rent one game, give it back at the end of the month"

>>378833149
Based nintendo does it again
N I N T E N D O M I N A T I O N

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>>378833676

I'd rather none of the three leave the console industry, but if I had to pick one it would be Microsoft.

>>378834194
>Microsoft releases maybe one game a year worth playing, and if you haven't already played it it'll be like $10 at that point
>Sony stopped releasing good games for ps+ once the PS4 came out
I'll take $20 and shit games over $60 and shit games, thanks.

>>378839393
>holding a board perfectly still for 10 minutes, causing the camera to spazz out if you so much as slightly move it.
not him but what on earth are you talking about? Do you have fucking parkinsons?

>>378839679
And with actual games, not interactive movies.

>>378833685
nintendo fans don't really use voice chat otherwise there'd be more of an uproar over it, but they prefer coach co-op.

>>378834930
Lmao keep telling yourself that sweetie

>NES game with online multiplayer

Which one NES game would benefit greatly from this?

My vote is for Ice Hockey.

>>378835993
Please please go live in a cave somewhere ACfag

>>378850908
Rescue Rangers

>>378850342
>$60 + new games
>$20 + 30 year old games you can easily emulate for free on tons of other devices

hmm... but all Sony games are shit so new games are worthless, right? I wasn't going to play them anyway. Fuck when Sony made Rocket League free for PS+ and was the main reason why this "shit" game became popular. I WANT TO PLAY FINAL FIGHT 2 ONLINE.

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>>378833676
What did you expect? Xbox users were a mistake.

>>378851094
I see your point, but are you sarcastic about playing Final Fight 2 online?

>>378840769
How is he wrong?

>most of the shit up to 5th gen are emulateable
>can mod your 3DS to run it
>needing monthly services

that's pretty sweet.
Now if they could change the pricing so you get free months every time you get a game that would be perfect.

>>378851261
I wonder how the fuck she even washes her admittedly nice hair.

>>378851094
>you can easily emulate for fre
illegal means don't make acceptable arguments

>>378852327
It costs 20 bucks, so if you compare it to Microsoft and Sony's services you're already getting a whooping 8 free months per year.

>>378833346
We are still feeling the effects of the Wii.

That's the point where everyonge shifted to casual pandering super hard because they saw how profitable they could be.
The same feeling is the driving force behind dumbing down of genres across the board and chasing mobile markets.

Thanks Nintendo.

>>378833149
sounds exactly like PSN.

>>378833676
>that one console that was assured to break just after warrenty expired and then you had to pay MS to send you a 'refurbished' one that would break again a few month laster

>>378852595
Yes, because Nintendo invented mobile games. Are you fucking kidding me?

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>people complaining that Switch online doesn't have any features that PSN has
>mfw trying to think of any features of PSN other than playing online

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>>378852412

>free full library an time you want
welp, I'm going to enjoy me some NES and SNES games, lol. another thumbs up to nintendo

>>378853061
uh... there was Home...

you're right I cant think of much.

>>378853431
I mean. It's not like PSN gives you servers or anything to play on. It's all peer2peer shit.

Least I know for a fact that with Arms and Splatoon you connect to a server and not a player.

>>378833409
>pay 20$ for online
>also get discounts on games and free classic game with online multiplayer to boot
Literally equals out in the end

>>378853562
Can't speak for Arms, but Splatoon is certainly peer to peer, and you only connect to a server to access the map list.

>sony kids and nintendo kids both laugh at xkids for paid online
>sony gets paid online
>ninkids laugh at sonykids
>ninkids get paid online
>all console fucking shits sit together clamoring about how great it is to pay for their own internet twice (scratch that, their parents pay for their internet twice)
makes...makes me...makes ponder a bit woah....

>>378853415

>Free* full library

>*with subscription

>>378853640
If Splatoon was peer2peer there would be massive lag considering all the Japanese shitting it up.

Oh thank fucking god, the original plan was way worse than even PS+ currently is, but honestly I'd take classic games with added online over the shitty indie garbage that PS+ free games put out.

>>378853671
ouch, that $5 really hurts!

I'd honestly pay nintendo for online with no games. they need more money to compete with the cancers.

>>378833285
>What is the NES
>What is "the reason video games didn't crumble in the gaming crash of the 1980's"

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>>378853648
Paid online was a mistake. Fuck M$ in particular for starting all of this.

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>>378853648
>says the PCfat who pays $20 a month for a single game

>>378840930
>I am a gigantic faggot with no real information

you don't say

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why do people think it's a good deal to buy ROMs when you can easily get them for free, with much more functionality?

>>378853746
And there is, it's just hidden a bit due to client-side hit detection. If the host ever disconnects from a game, it drops the entire match. You can test it in a private match.

>>378853648
Such is the price for games.

Hope you enjoy that 290489295th match of LoL, PCfriend ;)

>>378853815
I recognize that cat!

>>378853781
Only in America. Japan doesn't give a shit about what goes on outside of their island, and Europe had computers.

>>378853815
I'm not a consolekid, I don't pay any subscriptions

>>378853849
I've never experienced a dropped match due to someone disconnecting. But I'll take your word for it. I've seen a lot of classic lag that usually identifies as server based though such as teleporting and running in place.

>>378853863
I'll enjoy my 100th match of rising storm 2, thanks ;)

>>378854002
>teleporting and running in place
Those happen in P2P games, though.

>>378853648
I think its bullshit personally however at least Switch online is much cheaper even if i probably wont even get it ever because fuck paid online.

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>>378853939
Oh right sorry. You pay for early access and microtransactions for loot boxes.

>>378853815
I don't pay a monthly fee to anything

>>378836835
Wii U had a decent lineup with questionable hardware, but that shouldn't be a problem.

It only shows how much marketing is important.

>>378854118
>you pay

Keep projecting all this shit. I don't play f2p micro transaction shit games and I think it's funny that you like to pretend they don't exist on ps4

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>>378854118
I don't play console garbage like overwatch

Honestly you couldnt pay me to play a NES game.
Name ONE that is worth playing if you're under 35 and not a nostalgia land whale

>>378854285
Castlevania

>>378854285
smb3

>>378853842
I dunno, the online functionality addition sounds pretty good, every emulator online mode i've tried out was pure shit.

>>378853815
I have never paid more then 1 dollar for a game on PC. It is called steam and humble bundle you chuckle fuck.

>>378854285
In all honesty I played Balloon Fight on GCN Animal Crossing more than Animal Crossing itself, and I wasn't even born for the release of the SNES

>>378854285
Final Fantasy

Why do people think that if they pay for what was a free service that means the service will magically be better? PSN goes down dozens of times a year despite all those people paying loads of money into it

>saved the industry
It never amazes me how delusional and retardedly loyal to brands idiots can be

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>nintendo comes out with another scam to get nintendies to buy the same old roms for the third time that nintendo downloaded off the net
>nintendies claim its the next coming of christ and that nintendo won everything forever
why does this happen every single time? do nintendies have a mental illness? spousal abuse syndrome? stockholm syndrome?

>>378853634
PlayStation plus did the same thing, offering as many free classic games as you wanted and people still hated it when Sony decided that online play for the PS4 required a subscription. It's still a dick move to make people pay to play their games online when its free on PC. Have a subscription service if you want but don't make it a requirement to play online

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>>378837972

>GX
>Online

O-oY

S-some goy beddah rethink givin those titles away f-for..

F-f-f-f-
*hack hack, snort
wipes comically large nose*
FREEEEEEEEE?!?!?!
OII VEEEEEEEEEEEY

>>378854285
Gauntlet II

>>378833149
If that library included snes and gba games it would be great, maybe even throw n64 and gamecube, but it most likely will be nes only games, not that they are bad but I played them enough

>>378854002
those are p2p issues and symptoms

>>378836835
Because it had 5 good games and that's it.

If pay to play online is so great why does Playstation go down all the time for hours or days on end?

>>378854517
I have no idea.
As a disgruntled former Nintendo fanboy, I'm guessing it's some sort of perceived need to be loyal.
These last two console gens have been shit all around.

>>378854857
So, you decided to subscribe to PSN.... you poor fool

>>378844427
Look up the Nokia N-Gage

>>378855090
The only problem with gaming on a smart phone besides micro-transaction jewery, is the the lack of a controller, and the limited battery life.

>>378854519
I'm more interested in the discounts than the NES games. At $20 a year, it seems like they could get the service to pay for itself.

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>/v/ now defends online play being locked behind a paywall

What the fuck happened to this board

>>378855367
Kids who are used to instant gratification. They don't know it was common to pay 60 dollars for a game and getting all of the content

>>378833149
>how can we make them buy a game they've already bought 17 times?

This is all that is.

>>378855367

This new batch of 20-somethings love bowing over for their corporate overlords.

>>378855350
PlayStation Plus and XBL offer discounts as well on more items too and that still doesn't excuse having to pay to play online. Sony had the right idea with PS+ initially which was to keep online gaming free but offer a membership that offered nice benefits and free games but unnecessary to play online.

>>378855467
I hate retards who say this because they ignore that said games were usually short and had cut content that was never fucking restored.

>>378855521
Except they're adding online play to all of them, which is pretty damn nice.

>>378854517
As a Nintendo fan I don't get this either. I mean it's always nice to be able to play the old classics but I'm not gonna buy them again. I bought some of them on Wii. This time you really don't buy them though as they're part of the online sub. If the library expands and the price stays the same then that's a pretty good deal. But if it's only a handful of games you get for "free" and you have to buy the rest then that's not a deal to brag about.

>>378855657
The 15-20s are even worse. Been playing FarmVille on their moms iPhone, being trained to mindlessly syphen money down the hole since birth.

>>378833346
the wii was great. stop with this bullshit

saying the wii was bad because of shovelware is the same as saying ps2 and DS were bad because of shovelware

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>mfw MH GX will be free online because it connects with the 3ds
>mfw this would be the only game where I could justify a $20 a year subscription

>>378855467
There has never been an era in gaming where you received all the content you paid for. Even as early as the 8 bit days you had games that were released with unfinished levels or gameplay aspects. And DLC is fucking optional, how do retards get upset over a fucking choice of all things I'll never understand

>>378855367
Fans boys driven by some type of brand loyalty they developed as kids and now they would be willing to entertain the idea of buying bags of shit for $60 a pop from whatever company they loyally follow.

>>378855367
>>378856123
You've had 15 years to try to stop it. Now it's already too late, so if you don't like it, just don't subscribe to it and just stick to offline playing. Trying to blame Nintendo is fucking stupid.

>>378835781
Hey, at least throw XBox a bone and put Forza in there. People like racing games.

>>378855367
It's a lost battle, every company followed suit because of easy money.

At least it lessens the blow that its way cheaper than the others. 20$ still too much in my opinion

>>378856441
That's 3 times less than the other 2 companies, dude.

>>378835993
You're talking about casualization in Mario? Really? Fucking casual gamer entry point 101?

>>378856540
>Mario
>casual
And then there's this asshole.