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Who was the better villain? Also, am I the only one happy with

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Who was the better villain?
Also, am I the only one happy with Far Cry basically becoming "Charasmatic Villain: The Game?"
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>>378832135
Isn't Far Cry 4 villain an "anti-villain"?
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>>378832393
They all are, that's the point.

Far Cry at its core is about being dropped into a world where there are no rules except survival of the fittest. The main villains of each game are then by definition the people who have adapted best to the insane new rules and become paragons of survival. They are also friendly as hell because for the most part, they don't see themselves as villains but as survivors, same as the player, which lets you both identify and relate to one another. And again, the entire point is that had you not come to the fucked up land in the first place, none of this would have happened. The only reason they even try to kill you is you insist on actively trying to kill them, and even then, a couple save your life.
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>>378832135
Pagan was best dad ever, If you wait at the first section for about 15 mins you beat the game and join him in quelling the terrorists

Vaas was probably more a villan than Pagan though
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>>378832135
At least Pagan Min didn't die in the middle of the game.
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God I want to play 5 already

Why the fuck do they start promoting the games so soon. I don't want to wait 9 fucking months
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The real villian is Ubisoft
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>>378832135
>am I the only one
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>So, um, there're cult leaders
>and they all have stupid haircuts
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>>378833107
>tfw no expansion putting down the terroists
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>>378835023
You are a bad pilot, and yes, you are the only one.
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>>378832135
>Also, am I the only one happy with Far Cry basically becoming "Charasmatic Villain: The Game?"
Also the OST is nice.

Too bad the story sucks, the gameplay sucks, the guns suck, the progression sucks, the AI sucks, and even the options menu sucks.

They also butcher their story big time, every single time. The overall story of Farcry 4 was great, and the secret quick ending is incredibly good, but it's told so poorly and everything else is garbage. Farcry 3 story was also much better in an earlier iteration, when Jason died at the start and became the vessel of everything Vaas aspired to be, and the game ended with you playing as Vaas, rulling over the island and fighting his boss' henchmen and the retarded rebels. Very in line with Farcry 2 too, rather than the retarded dudebro simulator it later became.
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>>378832135
Better as in more likable? Pagan Min
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>>378832135
>Also, am I the only one happy with Far Cry basically becoming "Collectathon Villain: The Game"?

Ftfy
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>>378833015
I never really liked or related to Far Cry 3's villain. I found him annoying. Pagan Min was a pretty awesome dude, though.

Having played 4, then 3, I just have no desire to every play another one. I mean, I might have given 5 a shot if it wasn't set in a place where I vacation every year.
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>Pagan
>villain
Stopping terrorists who want to turn your country intro a drug state or an isis like fanatic land is not what very villainous
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>>378834240
Why? You realize you can just go there, right? It's not even expensive.
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>>378835296
>there're
Come on. That doesn't even make sense.
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>>378835823
>game ended with you playing as Vaas, rulling over the island and fighting his boss' henchmen

Sounds too good.
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nolan north cant voice act for shit
vos from far cry 3 was a whole nother level
nolan north just talked your fucking ear off vos was an actual performance with intensity
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>>378836189
Well that was the plan at some point: Jason has great friends, he's wealthy, has a nice GF, becomes a warrior, fills up his tattoo, kills his bitch sister, kills his boss, kills the rapist... everything Vaas aspires to. Jason hunting them down and eventually killing Vaas was to be the representation of Vaas overcoming his fears and actually getting his shit together. Which is why Vaas can't kill Jason, and cue Alice in Wonderland quotes and weird hallucinatory sequences. Story was scrapped, but many elements of it remained in the game.

The whole Far Cry theme starting with 2 basically is "shit is fucked up but you're about to become even more fucked up than that". In 2, you pretty much become the Jackal and end up helping him, in 3, half the game was supposed to take place in Vaas' head until you become Vaas, in 4, Pagan Min was your best bro all along.

So I guess Far Cry 5 ends with you becoming a christian and securing the existence of your people and a future for white children. If Ubisoft doesn't fuck up the story, they'll fuck up the gameplay, AI, and everything else anyway.
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>>378835296
>big bad is a severely balding religious cuck with aviator version of bono glasses
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>>378835296
the guy with the dog is pounding boypussy via rape
i'm calling it now
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>>378832135
>Tfw this starts playing in the last mission

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iNxpIhjLws
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is FC4 a good game?
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>>378836096
Literally Duterte
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>>378835296
>since they're the bad guys you will have to kill doggo and white cutie at some points
They better let me join the cult
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>>378833107

He's not your dad though.
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>>378832135
>I distinctly remember saying, "Stop the bus." Not "shoot the bus." "*Stop* the bus." I'm very particular with my words. "Stop." "Shoot." "Stop." "Shoot." Do those words sound the same?

>Uncle Pagan here, just checking in on my favorite nephew. So tell me, Ajay, who are you rooting for so far? Have you fallen into Amita's honey pot, or have you been dazzled by Sabal's flowing locks and bad-boy jawline? Hey, each to his own. That's your lifestyle choice to make. He isn't my cup of tea, contrary to the rash assumption some may make about my appearance. I am indeed batting for the other team. You, more than most, should know that there was only ever one woman for me, my boy.

>Ajay, I hope you don't mind, but I took the liberty of having a new suit made up for you. If you are to lead Kyrat when this is all over, you're going to need a sharper look than denims and fucking sneakers, my boy. And that jacket. Oh, don't get me started. Why on Earth do you need so many zippered pockets? What do you keep in them all? Handfuls of meat? Huh, I suppose you do. I'll make a note for my tailor: "Ajay's jacket, zippered meat pockets." Perfect. Well, don't let me slow you down.

>Now, before we begin... ah... to whom am I speaking? Hm? The son who returned to scatter his mother's ashes, or the lunatic who has murdered his way to the top of my mountain?"
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>>378835296
Can this picture be possibly more white power? Not sure why /pol/ is so buttflustered, it's obviously meant to be self-aware and parodic
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>>378837705
They are afraid. I don't know of what exactly, but its the kind of fear that causes rational thought to be cast away.
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>>378837663
Pagan Min legit did nothing wrong and the rebels are just as bad if not worse. I wish you could have turncoat in the middle of the game or something, I wasn't satisfied with just letting him get away.
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>>378835296
Okay, not going to lie, with exception of the hobo hair and swedish curl, nobody looks bad at all, in fact the hair fits them fine.

While I never played pprevious Far Cry games much, I actually dig the designs, am I the wierd one out?
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>>378837363
I enjoyed it.
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>>378837897
Well you can slaughter the rebels at the end.
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>>378837928
No they look fine
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>>378837897
Don't leave his office at the beginning of the game and you hang out with him
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>>378837663
Its almost impressive the good writing far cry games hide sometimes while most players just want to shoot shit. You really are the vilain for fucking with pagan min honestly, yeah he is a fuckhead but a benevolent and mostly neutral one.
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>>378838016
>mostly neutral
>Stabs a commander to death with a Pen for shooting at a bus riddled with armed rebels that just killed a few of his men.
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>>378838016
It's not that the writing is all that great. I mean, I'd put it on the same level as Animorphs. But the VA did an awesome fucking job with Pagan.
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>>378832135
Vas wasn't even a bad guy. He did terrible shit but his sister whatever her name was is the bad one. The whole time vas tries to warn you about her.
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>>378838093
It wasn't a pen. It was a switchblade hidden in a bullet.
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>>378838135
My mistake, looked like a pen to me.
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>>378832135
Vaas gets on shaky ground when you realize Citra drugged and raped him and that was the real reason he went murder crazy and that Hoyt just took advantage of an existing resource to offer him an outlet.
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>>378838093
>be ruler of a country where you only became leader by sheer strength
>dirrectly tell your officer "stop the bus"
>fucker shoots it
Thats as neutral as the setting can allow, torture till death would be evil and pardoning him after beating hi senseless would be good.

Think with me, the country is not stable at all, most of these fucks cant be given any leash or they could rebel easy, you got enemy rebels everywhere and your dumbfuck of a soldier decides to do the oposite of what you told him to, what else would you do,
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>>378837663

>not posting the best one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYbDbULUcRk

the "If the dictator of Turkmenistan can get J-Lo to sing him “Happy Birthday” then who's to say I can't get my fading star of yesteryear?" was great line too

anyway, Pagan was fantastic, one of the best villains from this gen
Vaas on the other hand was just DUDE CRAZY LMAO, even Hoyt Volker was better villain
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>>378838167
No biggie. Only reason I know is because I got curious, so I looked up what he drops online.
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>>378837554
this makes him look even better.
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>>378838194
I thought they were siblings.

>>378838270
This. Dude can't appear weak when it's a country filled with people all eager to be king.
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>>378838016
>there are people that killed Pagan Min and will never know the full story

Fuckers could have let the guy keep his helicopter.
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>>378838302
Don't forget the celebrity chef.
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>>378838097
>378838097
I didnt mean to imply its all written well, just that it hides some genuinely good stuff underneath it all.
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>>378838389
>I thought they were siblings.
They are. Vaas's story is told in the weird bits where it shows Jason and Vaas switching places. And part of that is the shit with Citra. Citra's grooming you to take the place she intended for Vaas, who she mindbroke through drugged incestual rape.
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>>378838302

I wanted to put villain in quotation marks, since he tried to be nice to you and even after you ruin his country, he still help you in the end

definitely lesser evil than religious extremist Sabal and "same as Pagan, but even worse" Amita
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>>378838097
The portrayal definitely makes the writing seem better than it actually was. The character sold the dialogue incredibly well and came off as extremely charismatic and even comedic at times. I was amazed at how good Min was... Took me right back to Legacy of Kain-tier shit.
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Is Far Cry 2 worth reinstalling?
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>>378838579

only with mods
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Do you think you can bro up with the antagonist from 5 like you could in 4 and purge heretics in the name of god?
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>>378838557
Yeah. Pagan Min made that game for me. I picked up Far Cry 3 after beating 4, hoping for more of the same. Needless to say, I was beyond disappointed. Looking at Far Cry 5's location and villains, I just can't imagine it not being a cringefest of a VA trying to do a hillbilly accent and talking about God nonstop. I live in Kansas. If I want to experience that, I could just knock on my next door neighbor's house, or walk down the street to a church made out of corrugated metal. Add to the fact that I vacation in Montana every year, and I just don't see the point.
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>>378835823
Jason was great, he went from a dudebro adrenaline junkie to a Paul Atreides tribal warchief that alienated all of his former friends with his constant killing.
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>>378838638
Ubisoft doesnt have the balls to let you join a bunch of whackjob scientologists in purging blacks and chinks anon, the day it does it stopped being shit, AAA and makes nothing but good games, that day aint coming soon either way.
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>>378832135
>Heath Ledger's Joker if he died in the middle of the story

or

>the only good ending
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>>378832135
Vaas was best because it was fun to fight against him.

Pagan was bad because the whole game you just want to side with him and you cant.
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>>378838773
There are blacks in the trailer, shown as part of the cult. They're not white supremacists.

Neogaf is throwing a hissy fit over it because they wanted to shoot racists.
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>>378839674
More you know, thanks anon.
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>>378838773
I was mass murdering niggers and asians in Far Cry 2 and 4.

So what are you talking about?
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>>378839983
See, you were doing that but they were evil. If you dare say you were purging them on religious belief the chances your game wont be censored or worse are very high.
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>>378840041
>you were doing that but they were evil
So are the whites are evil in FC5.

go back to /pol/ faggot and be triggered there

FC1 - mass murder multiple races
FC2 - mass murder niggers
FC3 - mass murder latinos
FC4 - mass murder asians
FC5 - mass murder whites

Interesting how FC5 insantly triggered poltards lmao
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Far Cry 4 is actually a game where you join the bad guys and make shit worse. Pagan didn't do anything wrong and the guy is chill as fuck towards you. I actually hated not being able to side with him and having to pick between those two psychopaths who are supposed to be better.

Ironically if you don't put up a fight at the start then you get the actual good ending because you're not fucking anything up and he can get rid of those terrorist fucks. Why even bother playing?
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>>378832135
Vaas could've been cool, he could've engaged you in multiple dialouges through various sitiuations in-game as Brody's character progresses from College Chad to Innajungle Operator and depending on certains deeds you've done Vaas changes his dialouge, maybe opening your eyes to Citra's brainwashing and at some point maybe have an ending where Brody gets corrupted by power and takes over Hoyt's operation along with Vaas (since if you kill Hoyt Vaas has no employer) to try and make Rook islands a modernized tourist resort or something
But no
you see Vaas like 2-3 times then you kill him
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Pagan Min was more charming but he was relegated to occasional radio man for the entire fucking game, which was honestly just a massive waste.
Vaas was very nice but in retrospect he didn't blow my mind or anything. Just a solid performance. Killing him halfway and replacing him with some ebul rich guy was a dumb move.
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>>378835296
>hair combed back with beard
>hair combed back with beard
>bald
>long scruffy hair
>hair combed back and pulled into a ponytail with beard
>military-style buzzcut with more length on top with beard
>"stupid haircuts"
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>>378836485
I'm assuming you are referring to Pagan Min's voice actor, which is Troy Baker not Nolan North.

Also, fuck off cunt; Troy Baker is a god among men
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>>378832135
Vaas is a better villain but Pagan is a better character, probably one of my favorites from ubisoft in a while..
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewRjZoRtu0Y
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the only reason i wanna say vaas is call i like nacho in better call saul
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>>378836120
>hurr durr america is the centre of the world
Fuck off
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>>378842759
It's not exactly hard to get access to the US, you know. Flights are pretty cheap unless you're a welfare queen.
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>>378840129
>>378839983
S T O P R E S P O N D I N G T O F A L S E F L A G S
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>>378843116
>wanting to go to a backwards shitstain state just to look a the pretty mountains.
Where I live, I can look at the pretty mountains without having to risk my life. And all it costs is a tank of petrol.
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>>378843256
>petrol
go away yuropoor.
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>>378834980
This.

Which is why I hope literally everyone in this thread gets cancer. Thanks for ruining my hobby.
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>>378843256
>Without having to risk my life
Do you think all of America is just one giant version of Chicago?
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>>378843128
>gets proven wrong
>starts spewing memes uncontrollably

shoo, at least pretend to have played a fucking far cry game before
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>>378834240
This, desu, can't wait for more procedurally generated, empty open world with glitches and horrible framerate/20 FPS despite high-end PC, awful AI, broken mouse controls, cringe-worthy dialogues and liberal propaganda.

I'm sure it will be a completely new experience.
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378843548
>cant even bait properly
lmao
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>>378835296
I wanna fuck that wolf
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>>378832135
Just me or would Far Cry 4 has been better if you could actually side with Pagan instead of getting that short cutscene?

Sabal is just a cunt. He wants to fuck up the entire countries economy for religion and keep on oppressing people for religion.
Amita wants to sell drugs and have kids as soldiers and waste materials on removing cool monuments
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Min because he did nothing wrong.
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>>378832135
>hurr durr let's make a cartoonishly evil villain, cuz muh DK's Joker was popular
>not maining an actually realistic antagonist

plebs
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>>378843116
>Flights are pretty cheap unless you're a welfare queen.

If you're paying transatlantic flights to visit a location because a video game you're looking forward to takes place there you have something very wrong with you.

Also, I don't want to get buttfucked by the TSA.
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>>378832135
FC3 had TWO better villains than Vaas.
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>>378843957
You should want to visit Montana because it's Montana. Glacier National Park is the coolest place I've ever been, and I've gone to Europe and Asia.
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>>378844039
his name is buck
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>>378844165
and he likes to
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>make the same game for like the third time
>retards like >>378832135 praise it
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>tfw Far Cry 5 has a great charismatic Christian antagonist you can't help but side with

I just want people to feel the cognitive dissonance desu
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>>378844076
I was there once, when I was 6 years old. Montana is one of the reasons I want to come back to the USA because holy fucking shit.
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Yeah I sure am excited for the next game in a yearly Ubisoft franchise whose last good game was on the fucking Xbox
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>>378844373
I want to reciprocate that smugness.
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Vaas but he kind of destroyed the second half of the game.
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>>378833107
No, you wait at the table and he comes back and you get a joke ending & roll credits.

It's be great if it was an actual game play path but it's nothing but an achievement, 5 Ubisoft points toward Robocop's gun they locked behind some Uplay connectivity BS.
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>>378846164
>Vaas but he kind of destroyed the second half of the game
How could he destroy something he wasn't even in?
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Ahem.
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>>378848397
by not being in it, the second half was weak compared to the first
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>>378844279
fuck a full hour later
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>>378833015
Vaas is pretty much a straight villain.

He's awesome and all but he doesn't have a sympathetic bone in him.
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>>378835435
The ending lets you fight the golden hand since they will turn on you
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>>378848849
Wait what
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>>378832135
Look it's Ubisoft's marketing team again. Just stop.
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>>378848397
Because Hoyt was a shit character compared to Vaas. Says a lot about Ubisoft's writing staff that a last minute character made entirely based off an actor's performance was infinitely more interesting than their main big bad.
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>>378832135
if you waited 15mins in FC4 (like the "villain" asks you to, the game just ends, therefore the Island Spic was actually a villain and a better one
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>>378844067
>he thinks this is a new thing

look at Fidget Spinners and PLAYERUNKNOWNS BATTLEGROUND

Everyone thesedays knows that the way to get people talking about your game is guerrilla marketing
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