FFXIV Revenge of the Empire

Monk's aoe is untouched. Too bad all their single target got nerfed by 10~70 potency.

They must want us respecting their content. No big dick pulls

>>378830230
>DRG doesn't have fall off bullshit
>but their most potent aoe shit require at least 1 minutes to setup
>their aoe rotation doesn't build toward it either unlike SAM's

>>378830230
is this true? aoe diminishes now?

>>378830884
It has for a while, they just added the holy text to more spells.

>>378830983
fuck my ass, can I get a link to which ones or maybe you can name the few? seems so bad esp for big pulls in dungeons

>>378831149
nu-Bane
New BLM's spell, Foul.

Y'ALL SLEEPIN ON WHM
SLEEPER OP JOB IN 4.05 SCREENSHOT THIS

>>378831179
what about brd/mch/sam?

Give it to me straight

How cucked are MNK and SAM?

>>378831268
SAM also has them for all their aoes, but the potency is pretty high and they can shit them out very fast.

BRD and MCH seem to stay the same.

>>378831319
SAM hits like a fucking truck. I have no idea what they were thinking with MNK though.

>>378831319
MNK is kill. SAM has all the potency in world.

>>378831268
>>378831350
Also I'm not sure if this is a buff, but MCH's Richocet does full 300 pot damage on first target and then 10% less for each target after, with minimum at 50%.

It's a buff right?

>>378831376
but mnk has the +5% physical to raid! it totally makes up!

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THEY THOUGHT IT'D BE THEIR EXPANSION
HAHAHAHA

>new sprint animation for older jobs

Holy fuck, it really is happening!

>>378831767
no more ps3 limitations please understand

>>378831648
>tfw was planning on switching to SAM anyways
>tfw the gear is shared so I can go back and level MNK for the job quests easily
feels good man

>>378831648
It really felt cathartic after all the MNK shitposting the last couple of weeks to see their egos fucking implode.
To think they even amused the thought of leaving the cuckshed.

>>378831883
It sort of made sense anyway since sprint doesn't use TP anymore so people will use it more often, so might as well make them look better.

>>378831987
Good thing everyone else save for SAM is going into the shed with the MNKs

What if Red Mages end up being competent enough at off-healing that they end up replacing the 2nd healer because a RDM that heals still does more damage than a healer that does DPS?

>>378832063
>these attempts at coping with the thought that MNK will be perma cucked for 3 years
The only one in the cuck shed is MNK, WHM is dead and buried.

>>378832097
They only have one healing spell with mediocre potency, they can't be a full healer, main or off

>>378832097
They only have one single target heal with low potency and their only mp regen is cross role so I doubt it would happen. SCH will be joining WHM if it does though.

>>378832157
WHMs grave became the foundation the new, bigger cuckshed was built upon.

is DRK going to be okay? I haven't been keeping up.

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>>378832097
>single 350potency heal put in to avoid RDM lorefags sperging about muh White Magic
>getting used at all since it's a dps loss

>>378832358
All tanks are looking good. DRK lost a combo route that's all so it might be a little lamer to play over all.

>>378832358
Depends on how WAR turns out. PLD is looking good for once.

>>378832358
drk does 3.0 warrior damage and gets trick attack every 2 minutes, on top of shielding the mt for a free fell cleave

>>378832438
>DRK lost a combo route

do you know which? the enmity one or the mana/self heal one?

>>378832063
AST main here, it's cute you think that your place isn't in the shed. Beg me for cards and maybe you'll get one if I feel like it, fag.

>>378832365
Would have been happier if they got a Water type spell. The only one in the game doesn't even do damage now it's kind of sad

>>378832494
They lost one of the last options for the mana route. The one that reduces int.

>>378832358
best tank now
glory days ahead for all rk

>>378832494
delirium
so get ready to press souleater a whole lot

>>378832527
Jokes on you, I already planned to abandon MNK before any changes were released.

Reminder that SMN is fine.

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It's ok I still have hope for WHM until July 16

>>378832665
Anyone that says otherwise is a retarded memer.

>>378832665
cuckshed memes :^)

Wait, so the super savage boss idea is actually going to happen? No jokes?

>>378832527
I don't need your fucking balance card. My big dick DPS is my utility, fag.

>>378832745
they are taking away a dungeon during odd patches to rehash a single old fight from previous tier

i am surprised casuals are not complaining about this instead of MUH WHM MAIN since they don't even clear regular savage

> tfw monks didn't get the ssj aura or gl4

It hurts

>>378832737
WHM might be the only ones legitemately going into cuckshed because they don't look too fun to play, SB changes are almost nil
SAM might have current MNK problems of being selfish DPS but he's bound to be used just for style points. Also he has two most damaging skills in the game, that helps for party buff synnergy

>>378832820
>to rehash a single old fight from previous tier
fake news

>>378831648
I can't help but feel all this monk in the shed shit is butthurt ninjas.

Just because you're swapping to SAM doesn't mean NIN is any less in the shed you weeblords. Also unlike you fuckups monk can switch to SAM whenever it wants because shared gear.

>>378831539
>forgetting the addition of direct hits with the addition of monk's speed
>forgetting riddle of fire
>forgetting passive chakra build up

Monk is doing just fine.

>>378832820
Does casuals even give a shit about which tomestone dispenser they run?

>>378832719
people were allowed to talk to yoship after the playtest and WHMs were extremely angry apparently. forums are full of WHM complaining too. maybe they'll get a kneejerk buff. just incase though I've stopped leveling WHM entirely and have started leveling a DRK

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>>378832842

>>378832875
>monk's speed
>riddle of fire

>>378832875
>MNK's speed
Oh my poor child.

>>378832875
>with the addition of monk's speed
:^)

I saw the video on SCH, did they nerf us or are we in the same spot in terms of our dps?

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>>378832875
>Monk is doing just fine.
Who let you out of the cuck shed? You have to go back.

>>378832972
>>378832974
Riddle of fire is not permament effect you know

>>378832998
AoE dps is dumpster fire
single target is fine.

>>378832998
You now deal the lowest damage of the healers. Your aoe is literal shit now too.

Haven't look much into RDM's rotation yet, but is it DPS loss for them to precast Jolt instead of going into whatever Val spell that proc?

>>378832998
dps nerfed. I forget what exactly but I think sch is losing bio, miasma, and shadowflare.

>>378832998
Bane, SCH's ONLY source of AoE was nerfed significantly. Just be thankful it's not 2.0 Bane.

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>>378831319

>Riddle of fire is a 30% damage increase on a 90 second cooldown with a fucking penalty to attack speed that will most likely force double weaving and gcd clipping (especially with forbidden chakras terrible animation lock) to get the most out of it.
>Riddle of earth will sit completely useless 90% of the time since its usefulness depends completely on fight design to hope there is some damage you can bait for an extension. Has absolutely zero synergy with monks level 60 skill tornado kick.
>Massive waste of time, effort, and resources put in fucking shoulder tackle depth that fucking no one wants or asked for and will be generally useless for the class.
>Brotherhood is a weak shit 5% buff that allows you to gain chakra stacks from others but you cant even spam forbidden chakra during a RoF+BH phase due to the 5 second cool down.
>ToD gone along with nearly every single Gcd geting a potency nerf.
>Arm of the destroyer is literally unchanged along with One lm punch still being around just to add insult to injury.
>Literally not one new damaging skill.

The class is fucking dead.

The class

>>378832927
honestly a buff wont fix the issues with WHM right now. The entire Lily mechanic needs an overhaul. You could completely ignore the Lilies and still perform 99% of your job. Try that with SAM, RDM, DRG, BLM, SMN, BRD, MCH, WAR, DRK, and even SCH and you'd suffer for it.

>>378833051
>but is it DPS loss for them to precast Jolt instead of going into whatever Val spell that proc?
I'm not even sure what you mean by this, but you should use jolt/impact every time you don't proc.
If you proc, you should use that spell and move onto quick casting thunder/aero

>>378833051
>is it DPS loss for them to precast Jolt instead of going into whatever Val spell that proc
Jolt is DPS loss compared to Val-Fire/Val-Stone but you have to cast it before Val-Thunder/Val-Aero otherwise they have 5 second cast time

>>378833051
Nobody knows the rotation yet you fucking bafoon.

>>378833096
BANE?

>>378833029
>>378833050
>>378833073
>>378833096
Thanks WHM mains, you bitched so hard that now no one gets damage. I wish I could switch to a dps without waiting for 8 years in the que

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>>378832927
Yeah that's why, there was a mini WHM strike on fairie too. I posted in the forum for the first time just so to hope that they'll change their mind before the game start. I really doubt they'll remove the lilies thou, it's a infrastructure in the installment already I can hardly see them completely revoke the mech. But it might improve if they can atleast tone down or remove RNG.

Wish Exiled_Tonberry would stop autism sperging and get back to his cuckshed. WHM is a boring class to play anyway.

>>378833124
>>378833157
I mean, should I pre-cast Jolt after Valthunder/aero in case they didn't proc the next Valspell set?

>dualcast trait

So RDM gets to move during every other cast? That's pretty good.

>>378831319
MNK got no actual new attacks and their nuke (Tornado kick) still isn't worth using while having 330 potency.

SAM on the other hand gets a move that has a whopping 720 potency (which is further boosted) that's used whenever they can.

>>378832665
SMN is going to be really good for double caster comps.

>>378833248
once again, I'm not sure what you mean by pre-casting jolt

rotation is
>jolt -> verthunder/aero
>proc/jolt -> verthunder/aero
until 80/80

>>378833248
No, do Impact.

>>378833108
>weak shit 5% buff
Party-wide 5% is strong as hell though
>you cant even spam forbidden chakra during a RoF+BH phase due to the 5 second cool down
It's really unlikely to get chakra that fast
>One lm punch still being around just to add insult to injury
OIP is around cause now it's a guaranteed stun

Stop being such a fearmongering drama queen

I need raiding experience. Will I gimp myself by skipping coil and jumping right into Alexander? It just seems fucking impossible to get into a coil party anymore because everybody would unsync everything if they were given the opportunity to.

>>378833241
wish i wasn't suspended on that faggot site so i could deliver a lily-decorated WHM grave to him

>>378833264
MNK's highest non dot, not cd skill is now 180 potency.

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>People actually spend hours leveling shit themselves instead of getting a bot to do it

>SCH is no longer the king

I don't know if I should feel good or bad.

having one class dominate the roll is not good but I'm always glad to have them on my side

>>378833381
>not spending time becoming intimate with your job

>>378833381
>People actually play a game they pay for monthly.

>>378833304
>>378833334
Shit nevermind, Dualcast allowed insta cast so there should be no problem dealing with proc-based stuff.

>>378833381

always fun getting someone that botted their classes in DF

>blm, why are you casting fire 3 then ice 3 over and over again?
>"faster dps"

>>378832857
Ozma will be the first superboss

>>378833248
considering Verthunder/Aero is instant cast, it'll trigger the GCD so you'll have plenty of time to determine whether or not you cast Jolt again or Verstone/Fire. This ain't no Firestarter proc.

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>>378831648
>someone posted my OC
>but i main monk so it hurts even more
i made a terrible mistake

>>378833406
Its more like everyone loses because now in dungeons healers will hardly contribute to damage outside of AST buffs so if you have shit dps...may god help you

>>378833294
Definitely. They'll be best friends with RDM because BLM has no raid utilities LOL but we are not sure about RDM just yet so time will tell.

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>>378832875
>uninformed local man reveals retardation power level by not looking at NIN changes and new skills compared to the setbacks MNKs are facing

Go fucking stand in an AOE and die because of your greased lightning stacks, you punch-nigger.

>>378833462
If someone is serious about learning class their class, they will. The method of levelling doesn't change anything in the end.

>>378833501
Really depends how much personal damage BLM is actually going to be doing compared to RDM. Embolden isn't that great of a party buff either.

>>378833483
So, you could say you got cucked TWICE?

When are we getting some actual NPC quality hairstyles that we don't have to pay for? Why are they allergic to improving the character creator. Fuck you'd think they would at least make au ra customization less cancerous for their expansion but nope.

>>378833550

this is the same logic people who buy clears then watch mr happy guides use

nothing compares to actual experience

every class' optimal rotation can be figured out by leveling up and figuring out how each new skill you gain fits in. people who bot lack this experience and are never truly serious about learning their class

>>378833602
Yup. I think they might be on-par, maybe RDM a bit higher because it is a lot faster. Can't really say yet. Still, it seems like SMN is the better pick out of the 3 for raids. Maybe.

>>378833749
Why give it for free when they can put it in the cash shop?

>>378832842
>ssj
>super sayian
>where's the J

>>378833406
SCH is no longer the king since 3.4

> tfw hitting my first 10+ k wildfire

My dps is still pretty bad in general but I'm getting it. Too bad all of this learning will mean shit in a couple of weeks.

>>378833781
SMN is only the better "pick" in a double caster situation it seems. Their single target and AOE damage is going to be worse than both, so everything hinges on Shining Emerald and Devotion.

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>>378833778
>this is the same logic people who buy clears then watch mr happy guides use
People who buy clears were never intending to get good enough to do it themselves in the first place, I don't see how that's relevant.

Besides Jump Potions are an actual thing in 2 weeks anyway so it's no different.

>>378832857
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/6eixht/nonjobrelated_tidbits_from_jp_na_and_eu/?st=j3fjvwhk&sh=17c7f749

stop being an clueless idiot anytime

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>very fast mage raising shitters at high speed

>>378833860
They buy clears so they can join parties that say 'no bonus' and hope to get carried.

One clear isn't guaranteed to get you the thing you want from there, in fact it's most likely not going to.

>>378833794
Saiyajin. Its only sayian in the dub.

>>378833842
if we're going this route then it should be noted that the physical meta looks like it's going to continue. BRD/MCH/DRG/NIN syngerize better now than they ever have.
Should also note that all of this is moot because the true meta is SAM/SAM/SAM/SAM

>>378833890
So again, they weren't intending to get good enough to do it themselves after. Glad we agree it's not relevant.

>>378833749
My only problem with Au Ra are the random extra horns some hairstyles give that don't match their scales. The fucks up with that?

>>378833860
>Besides Jump Potions are an actual thing in 2 weeks anyway so it's no different.

which is why people are upset about it in general. it only exacerbates the problem. "you don't pay my sub :)" becomes "you don't pay my jump potion :)" and they're even shittier players than before

>>378833872
And waste valuable MP? I don't know who the shitter would be there.

>>378834006
Shit players were always going to be shit players. It changes very little.

>>378833361
>I need raiding experience. Will I gimp myself by skipping coil and jumping right into Alexander?
pls respond

>>378833938
A lot of fights are super awkward with more than 2 melee. We also don't exactly know where the ranged will be because they got completely overhauled.

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Job, aside how come there havent been any news about Lakshmi? I guess it will be 3 primals per patch starter like HW with bismark ravana and Knights.

and only 4 big locations in Othard? I sorta missed the small but meaningful zones in ARR, a wide map of one single nature only show that we wont get more individual unique places.
On top of that there's a mountain and small village on the East of Kugane, can we explore that too?

>>378833962
And how is refusing to take the time to learn your class by paying someone else to do it any different? It's just two different ways of putting you at a starting point without any of the designed work to get there.

Saying botting is irrelevant to your skill is pretty much the same argument some players use for buying clears - I could beat it if my party wasn't so shit, it's not me, it's them.

>>378834021
i'm actually not even surprised that this casual community is sperging so hard over muh instacast raise and a 350 potency heal

>>378834092
I'm obviously not jumping into endgame content the second the job hits 60 you fucking idiot.

>>378834067
no, the important thing about raid experience is experiencing the raid itself, not just a raid-like environment.
Doing coil will not magically make you better at Alexander. Besides, Alexander is (for the most part) significantly easier than Coil at ilvl.
Just jump into Alex and ride it out.

>>378833864
theres no guarantee that the super savage fights will be the only bit of additional content in odd number patches

casuals would chuck a shitfit since its completely innacessable content, they're going to be putting other shit like POTD/AQUA 2.0 in the odd numbered patches as well retard

>>378834067
Nobody does coil anymore, If you wanna get into a raid group just be a high enough item level by the time the raid comes out. You can do some alexander in the meantime to get "Street cred" but overall its just be ready for a raid and knowing how to play your job. Also lots and lots of patience.

>Dun Scaith
>getting some gear for my SCH since I'll be making the switch over to it for Stormblood
>The same 3 DPS dying to mechanics constantly
>AST is only putting balance on PLD
>I'm the only one healing or raising
>finally get it over and done with

>>378834195
that was already the excuse for getting 2 dungeons instead of 3 each patch like in arr, heavenward baby

now they bring it down to 1 dungeon, because of odd patch super savage, that was the tradeoff we had for a whole expansion for diadem, lords of veminion and aquapolis

Does Red Mage get any returning FF spells or did the Wowfugees get to it?

>>378833996
There's also that their horns clip through fucking everything and you can't switch between horns. The only part about au ra that actually feels like effort was put into it is their animations.

>>378833361

Maybe. Coil isn't super difficult overall, but it has a lot of mechanics that can cause wipes even unsynced if shitters don't pay attention. So learning it will make you more perceptive and keep you on your toes in a sense.

Alexander as a whole is much easier and a lot of the fights have mechanics that can be outright ignored with good enough DPS and throwing your face at the wall enough times. But as a result you have people who get carried and learn bad habits so when actual mechanics do come up that can't be ignored they don't know what to do and just stand around and die.

>do A9 the other day to get a couple of pieces for my DRG
>no newcomer bonus so I assume everyone knows the fight
>no one revives the adds or kills them when they aren't on the right platform
>people not paying attention and falling in lava

After two wipes I started to think it was some elaborate joke I wasn't in on.

>>378834318
nothing you type is correct, stop posting any time

>>378834074
>and only 4 big locations in Othard? I sorta missed the small but meaningful zones in ARR, a wide map of one single nature only show that we wont get more individual unique places.
Yeah, it's a bummer but at least it's more zones than HW got. (I think?)
They are at least a bit larger than HW areas and actually more pleasing to look at.
>On top of that there's a mountain and small village on the East of Kugane, can we explore that too?
Nope. Hingashi's only accessibke areas were Kugane and Shirogane (the new housing).

>>378834321
>or did the Wowfugees get to it?
I'm not even sure what this means, but no, they don't get any old FF spells. They do get Chant du Cygne, but it's called Zwerchhau for some reason.

>>378834172
Coil is easier than Gordias and Midas when they all were relevant, get the fuck out of here. Second Coil Savage is pretty much equal to Gordias Savage and Midas Savage, unnerfed at appropriate ilvl.

>>378830501
That's fine, it's to make up for how much more often they'll be using Forbidden Chakra

>>378834321
it has elemental spells, flare and holy, cure, raise and dualcast

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How do I make a nonshota male lalafell?

I'm currently a giraffe and have been since 1.0, and my name is male centric.

>>378833304
jolt gives your next impact +8 to both manas and that proc lasts 30 seconds

>>378834389
I'm glad the zones aren't going to be floating islands this time. The better zones in Heavensward were the ones that had actual geography (especially the forelands).

>>378833381
>buying a game
>paying a monthly subscription
>just so you can not play the game

>>378832358
PLD MT and DRK OT will be THE META for Stormblood. War is a shitty mix of both so it's not worth taking.

>>378834504
>going from the second worst race to the worst race
why?

>>378834403
>Yoshi-p said whm and blm won't get V spells/new suffixes because it may effect future titles
>Let's give red mage new spells
Based Japanese Todd

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>>378833860
>Jump Potions are an actual thing in 2 weeks anyway

>ypv SE will now start banning players who bot because they could be paying SE for leveling instead of some chinks

>>378834514
afaik impact is only available after casting jolt, and gives +4/+4 mana.
But i figured it was obvious to cast jolt instead of impact whenever it's available.

>>378834541
putting Ver in front of Fire, Aero, Thunder etc doesn't it make it any less of those spells you know

>>378834172
>>378834196
Thanks. I just assumed that since coil came before alex, it's like "starting low" and there would be recurring mechanics. It sucks that I'm pretty much denied an entire set of raids but at least I won't miss out on SB's

>>378834612
is this your first hotkey mmo? just curious

>>378834535
Worst race will always be Au Ra the tranny race. Atleast lalafell are too small to see.

>>378834535

>start as lalafel because I like their goofy animations and a midget tank is kind of funny
>nearly every other lala I run into is super rude and condescending or just obnoxious as fuck

Why do all the rude people flock to lala?

>>378834595
err, impact instead of jolt. Dno why i typed that backwards

>>378834273
If you came into that part way through I may have been the healer who's spot you took. I abandoned a group like that after the first boss.

>>378834515
Couldn't agree more. It might be an unpopular opinion but Azys Lla is the ugliest area in the game for me, along with Churning Mists.
Honestly? Most of the HW zones were, except Dravania.

>It's a Yoshi is still shilling Astrologist so hard that he even shat on a whole class just to make it more appealing episode

And people say he isn't a hack.

>>378832625
>he ever pressed Delirium before
The fact that it couldn't even overwrite Dragon Kick and that there was always a Monk around almost had me taking it off the hotbar entirely

>>378834515
Until you fly up and see how ugly the zones are. The way they barricade the player in with the mountains is just awful. 2.0 zones looked much, much better in that regard. Flying was a mistake considering the engine and the graphical fidelity they are trying to hit.

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>>378834595
Pretty sure Impact gives you no mana

>>378834504

Use facial hair, for starters, Give him a haircut with sideburns, because that shit is the height of masculinity. Dress like you're serious about whatever class you're playing.

I mean, in the long run you might just come off as goofy looking to people regardless, but I believe it's entirely possible to make a decent male tater-tot. I've seen guys who know what they're doing and aren't little memeshits.

I'll always miss you and your fucking Carlito 'stache, Shadow Ninja. You were a cool guy in a sea of mediocrity and tryhards.

>>378834745
Too bad every lala looks like some kiddo who put on a fake mustache and facial hair.

>>378834695
Azys Lla is such a cool area lore wise, and it has great music, but fuck is 3/5 of it isn't just shit-colored rocks.

Least Tiamat's area and the ship look fine.

>>378834671
>goofy animations and a midget tank is kind of funny
This is why.
Memers in general are obnoxious, so of course they would flock to the race that seems like a big meme.

>>378834679
Nah, I was there from start to finish.

>>378833336
>Party-wide 5% is strong as hell though
It's not if the class doing it is getting pretty much nothing else while literally having many skills weakened. You have to remember that this 5% buff is nothing special, trick attack, smn new buffs, hypercharge, battle lit ect all still exist, this is just monk getting a party wide buff comparable to the old skills other classes have and are keeping while gaining a ton of new damaging abilities and skills.

>It's really unlikely to get chakra that fast
I agree yeah so these potential large burst windows that people talk about with chakra and RoF+BH are really exaggerated.

>OIP is around cause now it's a guaranteed stun
This is fucking garbage, a guaranteed stun has never been needed and probably will never be needed over a regular stun.

>>378834721
There seems to be a tooltip error in both versions, or that the mana generation is included in the Impactful buff. At least that's what the common idea is.

>AST was weak as shit during release
>get buffed, making WHM not optimal anymore
>AST gets buffed yet again in 4.0
>ultimately killed WHM

We made it astros.

>>378834671
Because they're rude assholes in lore. War of the Magi and the flood calamity was all their fault

>>378834595
impact has no mana, it just has higher potency

I think I'm gonna do RDM now instead of SAM, just because they seem really neat. Anyone know if their priority system seems like it'll be a pain in the ass to learn or what? Am I in for a headache?

>>378834920
if you watch any video w/ rdm, you get +4/+4 casting it.
https://youtu.be/5WctPkumkxI?t=100

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>>378834504
>nonshota
Do you like like grandpa looking lalas?
there very ways to do that since most lala face are perma young.But I suggest give him a droppy sad eyes and Santa Claus beard. Moustache dont go really well on lala to be honest. But the one I suggested is what I think make them looks like an old shruken granpa

>>378834710
it's your highest potency combo without using a dark arts
like cmon man math isn't hard

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>>378834880
FUCK YOU IT'S NOT FAIR
WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE THE BEST HEALER CLASS

>>378834789

Even so, I believe it's possible to own that and make it work. You don't actually have to bust your ass to make a decent looking character in FF14, especially since you'll always be surrounded by people who believe being "unique" is just enabling every cosmetic option they can and matching outrageous colors, then choosing a face and nose combination that makes them look like they're stockpiling chromosomes for some kind of genetic fucking cold war.

It's a combination of the way you carry yourself and having a decent theme that'll impress the people you'd actually want to know and work with in this game.

>>378835008
Two parallel spell rotations to do depending on the proc you get.

>>378834880
>"we have to make SCH an optional, not mandatory job"
>buffs AST so hard it cucks WHM instead
you cant make this shit up

>>378834880
you're still a garbage class. It's just that WHM was sabotaged hard. Scholar is the only choice for healers now.

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>>378834535
Memes. Plus I'm going back anyway.
I have two potions on my retainer for being 1.0 and uh, 2.0/3.0? So it's a free change for me.
>>378834745
I haven't unlocked any hairstyles out of the default. Any suggestions?
Also in before xivg, glamtard, shitter, etc, I beat most endgame content when I wanted, did TA17 in 1.0, and don't ever post my character. I'm just honoring a promise to a friend and I've been a Elezen for 5 years, the same everything. I need a change.

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>>378834880
>all the salt and tears on the official forum and reddit from casuals that complain their job is not guaranteed raid spot
i didn't expect the herd to base the viability of their favourite job based on the possible endgame meta they will never touch

>>378835052
you're still the best
just too bad no one needs healing

>>378835012
Huh you're right
>hides hat as RDM
What a jackass

>>378835102
i dont play any healers but even i can tell you're delusional

I like how all of the Monk-haters in this thread don't even have access to the Elysium rotation-info. Individual melee tier is currently Monk - > Samurai -> Ninja -> Dragoon.

>>378835076
>depending on the proc you get
A proc doesn't decide the spell rotations you're doing, you do.
You decide the spell rotations based on the balance of black and white mana.
You fish for Verfire Ready and Verstone Ready with Verthunder and Veraero.

>>378834570
only 1 potion per account

i will buy the potion and buy a bot for the other classes

>>378835171
easiest video to find. I have to delete it from watch history lest my recommendations get plagued.
But yeah, impact should be used every single time if it's available and you'd be casting jolt. It's both more DPS and better at mana generation.

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>get outrolled on an item you need by the DPS that spent 70% of the fight dead

Is there any worse feeling?

>>378835131
If you're going for the santa claus beard look, any non-weeb or super long haircut should do it.

>>378834859

Wut? Ifrit ex and levi ex for example.

>>378835102
T. WHMcuck

>>378835220
>You decide the spell rotations based on the balance of black and white mana.
Which, guess what? Depends on which proc you get. Getting proc for white mana while not getting one for black mana forces you do to verthunder to balance them out.

>>378835309
non-super long, I meant.

>>378835012
that's really interesting then, thanks for sharing

>>378835131

You really won't need any non-default hairstyles, since the majority of additional styles are either borrowed from FF Type-0 or another property and look like a pile of arse. Not to mention you'll find every braindead stooge spending the majority of their time AFK using whatever has recently come out until they notice it's not relevant anymore and move on like the livestock they are. Those people don't create "characters", just avatars.

That's really the thing I stress here, the key to making a good looking character is to actually -make- a character. Something internally consistent. I could try and give you suggestions, but that's all you should really consider anything I've said, because the best result is going to be you looking over your options and finding the things that fit together in your head.

Treat it like a Tabletop RPG exercise in character building and you'll always come out with a better result. If you want me to keep yammering on, tell me what sort of classes you main and what kind of gear appeals to you in your own experiences.

>>378830230
>odd numbered patches will have one dungeon and some other new content while even numbered patches will have two new dungeons and QOL improvements.
What the fuck? I cannot wait for Verminion 2.0

>>378835403
Apparently we are getting a super-savage boss every odd patch.

>>378831319
SAM has more potency than a 16 year old on viagra

Hissatsu Guren is a 800 potency and they have a CD that makes one attack +150% potency

MNK may be hitting up the cuckshed though

>>378835403
Its why you wait until odd patches to get the best net gain. Personally why I'm waiting until 4.3 for subbing for SB avoid all that waiting around tome-grinding in Shirogane. The fact that they confirmed no "new" content until a way later patch killed all my desire to get SB, same for a handful of my friends.

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>>378835303
Getting 4-5 comms after spending half of fight dead and not healing anyone
I always see it as a bullying

>>378835271
The point of Impact is to just use it if Verstone/Verfire don't proc.

>on mid-SB AST sects cease to exist and now aspected benefic and helios only give shields
how fucked is SCH?

>>378835102
>crit adlo potency shields by default
>actual 20% damage increase instead of 20% chance to crit more
only reason schs would get taken at this point is because whm is terrible and to appear as a standard comp on fflogs, since everyone needs to be on a different job

if current shield and heal values stay the same, double ast for world first progression is more than likely to happen

>>378835506
m8
> impact should be used every single time if it's available and you'd be casting jolt
>and you'd be casting jolt
I may have worded it oddly, but i think you can surmise that impact replaces jolt, no procs

>>378835485
Hissatsu Guren is on a 2 minute cooldown, and is an abilty so Kaiten, which makes the next weaponskill have a potency of 150%, is a non-factor for Guren.

>>378835465
I'm all for having more diverse content if SE haven't forced us to run dungeons for the tomes. Are they going to have a single dungeon roulette now?

>>378835490
The predictability of the content and it's faceroll difficulty outside of Savage was the main reason I quit the game. I've been checking on SB info to see if it makes the game worth returning back, but I'm still on the fence at the moment.

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>>378835543
less fucked than us poor whms

>>378835485
It's +50% not 150%. MNK is still fucked though.

>>378833158
>he doesnt know

Lol and you retards are even spoonfed every day about this shit, impressive really

>>378835543
it's already worse without all that trouble

>>378835215

what

>>378835264
1 person for account thing will only last a little while i think

>sam deals 1880 potency in 2 seconds

ehhhhh

>>378835620
>>378835665

Right, my bad

Still, that 720 P move is available, so pretty great anyway

>>378835215
>currently

>>378835765
They also have a 940 potency dot.

>>378835215
>he actually believes this

If it were reality then MCHs Flamethrower has 6 potency

>>378835869
>940 potency dot

I mean, jesus how long does it last?

>your AST uses spear on mnk, balance on self and stella
why

>>378835972
1 minute.

>>378835972
60s

>>378835972
A full minute

>>378835972
1 minute.

>>378835215
Who let you out of your shed?

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>>378835215
GO BACK

>>378835303
It's worse when that DPS already has a higher ilvl gear slotted.
I fucking hate bastards that need roll on shit they don't need just for a few extra GC seals. IT'S NEED/GREED, NOT GREED/GREED

>>378833932
jin just refers to their race its similar to nihonJIN meaning japanese

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still no extracted ost from the skill trailer.

>>378836115
And yet SSJ, instead of SS, is the official abbreviation for Super Saiyan.

>>378835008
It's really simple, you only have to fill your two manas to 85 or more (with one over the other) rush to melee, do your 3 skills, use Verflare or Verholy and then go back to filling your manas. Actually, the rotation is so simple that they had to add a lot of procs to it to not make it a snoozefest.

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>>378832842

>>378836115
Just like the N in the english version. AmericaN, GermaN.

Everyone crying about classes not being viable cannot remember how things played out in Heavensward. Dark Knight was lauded as the absolute worst tank but was included in the very first Gordias tiers. The world first Midas clear used a Monk instead of a Dragoon.

The top-tier players are flexible and skilled on every class in their role. No one is a "WHM main" or a "DRG main" - they're able to play whatever is necessary for the encounter.

Anyone complaining about how they killed their main, or how they're not going to be able or raid, or similar is actual garbage tier and is not worth a second look.

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>>378836102
i actually need on stuff and vendor it for 300 gil since i've been capped on gc seals since forever

>>378836237
DEVILISH

>>378836209
this just in, cuckshed is a meme and anyone shitposting about raid viability is doing just that - shitposting.

>>378836209
Unironically this.
Religiously sticking to the meta only matters for fflogs speedkill memers who couldn't be bothered to actually attempt to clear early.

>>378836209

This is 100% true and a very good post, but this doesn't change the fact that some classes got the short end of the stick with these changes.

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>Yoshi and co. hate MNK
>make an expression for MNK

>>378836209
counterpoint: you're favorite class is shit

>>378836237
Well, fuck you buddy. I hope you are ready for passive-aggressive remarks, and no comms. Remember, you asked for this.

Why does everybody talk about how bad MNK got it when DRG didn't get much either?

>>378836209
the issue is not that, just how whm is played currently in endgame raids and the abilities it is getting in stormblood

especially for optimization, you only healed with ogcds and hots, while spamming dps spells, so nobody is going to take whm that has a 20% chance to get a lily for spamming cure 1 or 2 or to put he communion buff on someone, with same % rate and same healing spells

the skills itself are bad for THAT kind of enviroment, but since an overwhelming amount of players don't even raid, and they just spam cure 1 and 2 in whatever content they do, i honestly don't see the issue, besides making lily generation and communion proc chance faster, maybe by giving hots a chance to proc as well

>>378836209
>Parties at the beginning will be wonky
YOU
DON'T
FUCKING
SAY

Don't even pretend that a "meta" didn't formulate over time that cuck-shedded a good portion of the jobs. People are complaining that we can see the numbers now, and outside of raid scenarios that cater to a mechanic(literally all of Alex for DRK) we can call some shots.

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>>378836209>>378836350


well if there weren't any ironic "discussion", false flagging, and meme shilling, ffxi/v/ wouldn't even be able to last longer than Wow /v/ general.

>>378836423
Because DRG got potency increases in most of their skills and MNK got the opposite?

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>>378836406
damn, you sure got me champ

>>378836423
because drg got potency buffs, a new ogcd that's available every time it jumps and a giant red dragon that's available every 10 seconds for 30 seconds

>>378836423
You'll get no sympathy so long as you've got that piercing debuff guaranteeing you a slot.

>>378836423
Literally ZERO new damage skills
Every attacks potency was nerfed
5% damage buff with a long ass cooldown
Highest damage stance takes skillspeed away
20% chance of gaining Chakra from crits

Absolute shite

>>378836423
DRG got a lot of potency boost, still the sole source of piercing debuff and got more raid utility. Not much is still more than something for a class that was already really damn good.

>Hoped RDM would feel underpowered and confused to shitters so it gets abandoned shortly in like MCH
>RDM is both easy as pie AND coo looking
Fug

>>378836552
Don't forget dragon kick not debuffing int anymore.

>>378836552
Oh and also, dragon kick, the lvl 60 super attack became even more worthless

Currently I play the following:
DRK
SCH
SMN/MNK

Looks like that will be changing to:
DRK/PLD
AST
SAM/DRG/BRD

>>378836628
SCH should be safe unless people start running double AST.

>>378836507
holy autism
take a break from the game, anon

>>378836552
>20% chance of gaining Chakra from crits
where the fuck did you get this from?
It's 30% chance every time someone does a weapon skill

>>378836609
Tornado kick* I'm so disappointed that I already forgot the names of the moves

>>378836602
Both classes look like they are just complex enough to deter shitters

Hopefully

We'll have to wait and see

>>378836628
i am kinda sad that i need to play sch at least for another raid tier, ast is so fucking good now with the minor arcanas, sleeve draw and earthly territory

i want to slap enemies with the lord card fuck

>>378836682
Only while the buff is up. By default you only have a chance to gain it when you crit.

>>378836682
New passive gives you a 20% chance to gain a chakra every time you land a crit.

>>378836678
Is that really a lot? I've only been playing a month and just hit 300, 4238 for someone who's been playing awhile seems like nothing

>>378836682
Passive chakra generation is a trait, you fucking retard.

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>>378836736
>>378836751
>>378836736
>>378836727
Didn't even know about this
It's 30%, though.

>>378836747
The longer you play the less willing you are to stand around after a dungeon. If I don't need the drops from the final chest I abandon as soon as the boss dies.

>>378836747
I only commend sprouts so they get them pretty fast

>>378836747
ive been playing since 2.0 and only have 1165
I avoid playing with pubs and do FC whenever possible though.

>>378836602
RDM looks as semi-complex as current MCH, with it being similiarly proc-based. Shitters may abandon it soon yet

>>378836816
30% in xiv is like 5% in practice

>>378836881
>mch semi-complex
>rdm too
these memes are beyond bad and make me cringe so hard

>>378836881
All the e-celebs from the media tour have been talking about how easy it is so it's sure to attract some of the worst players. It may end up being the new DRG with shitters jumping into melee aoes.

Don't worry monks us scholars will be your friend and give you lots of crits

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>>378836881
Seems pretty easy on paper

>>378836927
It's more like 30%

>all these people bitching about bard no longer being a caster
Just why?

>>378837024
>that over-complicated chart

Jolt -> 5s ver[spell] -> proc/impact -> 5s ver[spell}
repeat until 80/80 with one higher than the other
123 melee combo
flare or holy

repeat forever

>>378837008
With IR + BL + Chain Stratagem, that's 65% chance of crit which is pretty good.
I think they're trying to make MNK a crit machine, which might explain the potency nerfs.

>>378837024
>Or 40/40 if Manafication is up
You still want 80/80 even if Manafication is up because Manafication simply doubles the amount of Mana you gain, not halve mana used.
Getting to 80/80 takes significantly shorter with Manafication, though.

>>378837119
muh complexity of le job

making them casters was a huge mistake to begin with, i kinda understand since having 100% damage uptime while doing mechanics is broken, but it was shoehorned so bad it made the job feel really clunky since it's really ogcd heavy

>>378837176
manafication doubles the mana you currently have. English tooltip is wrong.

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>>378837104
Sure thing buddy

>>378837176
It's a mistranslation.

Manafication DOUBLES your current mana.

>>378836207
FrenCH.
JapanESE.
ChinESE.

>>378837218
>>378837207
Well that changes everything.
Who the fuck translates these things?
And why do they still have a job.

>>378837270
ESE VATO

>>378837212
it's only fake % for gatherer and crafters

>>378837176
Manafication doubles the mana you have on your balance, not doubles gains

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>Those AST changes
Can't spell "mASTer race" without AST

I'm BoombASTic
Say me fantASTic
Touch me in me back
She says I'm Mr ASTrologian
Call me fantASTic
She touch me in me back
She says I'm Mr. Boom-boom-boom-boombASTic

>>378837270
the N is for native (european native)
the ESE is for asians because mexicans are racist

>Trusting potencies pre-launch.

Samurai potency won't be anywhere what they are now. If they get fucked too hard they will end up like Monk was in HW.

>>378837218
>>378837275
It's not mistranslation, the media tour in NA was on an earlier build

>>378837330
>au ra
>cash shop dress
>ast

It all comes together.

>>378837275
Koji Fox
He puts memes and replaced a characters name with his kid's name just because

>>378837330
the irony is that even if the halve the potencies on earthly territory, it's still better than assize

i am so ready for 4.0

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Who ready for sam/sam/sam/sam comps?

>>378837365
The skill doubled your mana in that exact build. It was a tooltip error.

>>378837348
>>378836207

SwedISH.
ScottISH.
WelSH.
EnglISH.
PortuguESE.
BrazilIAN.

It's not clear-cut famalam.

>>378837196
Some sort of superiority complex is what I encountered the most when I checked their reasoning against the change. Can't be helped when you are a god walking amongst mortals I guess.

>>378837384
Is it Khloe?

>>378837024
Fuck christ, it does

I really was considering rolling RDM but i might just do SAM, BLM, or PLD instead, it's not worth the class oversaturation
>"running A48S need BLM and DRG dps no RDM we're full on those"
>Timmy Uchiha: "I'm a RDM do you guys need another RDM"

and loldragoon status

Granted i feel im good enough at the game to outperform at least 68% of players as to avoid getting sweeped with the rest of the shitters but i'll still have to wait and see

>>378837545
>Timmy Uchiha
>RDM
Not likely.

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>>378837545
Samurai will be the new meme class and you very well know it.

>>378837165
Assuming their base is similar to what it is now MNKs could be getting close to a 90% crit rate with all the buffs up.

>>378837580
Have you SEEN all the Kirito dragoons?

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>queue on Leviathan
Here they come.

>>378837534
No, I'm trying to find the interview where he said it but if I remember correctly it was just an NPC from a side quest.

>>378837218
>>378837275
>>378837384
It's not a "mistranslation", since you can't mistranslate stuff like "30% damage increase and 15% speed decrease" to "20%" and "30%" respectively
It's just sloppy fuckups by minor workers

>>378836237
LOCK HIM UP

>>378837495
people are assblasted jobs overall are made easier and more accessible towards casuals, forgetting what kind of game they play

i am really curious to see how much closer the number gaps will be, especially for omega savage

>>378837654
Not as much as RDM

SAM has a buff, a debuff, and a DoT to maintain and that is too much for most shitters

RDM on the other hand is pure procs and no DoTs or buffs to maintain indefinitely

>>378837732
>>378837732
>you can't mistranslate stuff like "30% damage increase and 15% speed decrease" to "20%" and "30%
Well no, that may have been an update
But there ARE mistranslations and typos (like 6 potency on Flamethrower)

>>378837732
According to an interview with Yoshi they have new side quests like the mail moogle stuff just piling up because the translators can't keep up.

>>378837767
Maintaining SAM's buffs/debuff is non-issue since you're forced to do so to get all 3 Sen anyway. And you can bet even the casual shits can do that.

>>378837767
TWO buffs
need an advanced degree in pure mathematics to keep that shit rolling

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>>378837825
me when i play rdm in 4.0

>>378837767
You don't understand. The way a job works doesn't matter. They will play the "cool" class and ignore mechanics they can't or don't like. How are they supposed to know all those anyway. They paid to skip all the old content probably.

>>378837802
Really? I helped translate an entire modded story for a russian visual novel once, took me less than a total day's time, it's not even that time consuming

What the fuck

>>378837905
This.

If RDM's rotation is 'too hard' for little Timmy they will just spam coolest looking spells/moves over and over.

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>>378837330
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Tvy8-8q6U8

>>378837935
The difference is that you don't get paid by the hour.

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>>378837024
>tfw wasn't smart enough to play MCH even though I love the lore and idea of it as a job
>tfw same with RDM but even more so

kill me senpai

>>378837950

>I'm a white mana mage!

>>378837905
Perfectly fine with me

Ill be a 98 percentile SAM, not due to my skill, but due to others lack of it

I am okay with taking shortcuts in life

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if Ast is already a buff healer, and Scholar is a multitask healer.
How else will they install the next healer with a new set of utilities that wont be generic?
If unless there's such thing as a debuff healer or new battle mech introduce.

>>378837950
You don't pay my sub. I'm a healer not a DPS.

>>378837935
As a professional translator I guffaw at you, sir.

Yeah I too can barf out subtitles for an anime episode in an hour but quality translation requires a bit more time and quality assurance and this game really does have a fuck ton of text.

>>378838003
DPS healer

>>378838008
>>378837996

Fuck you, I'm melee red mage, who gives a shit about gay spells anyway?

We all know these will happen.

>>378837802
You know how to fix that?
Hire on more people.

I swear, every issue this game has would be fixed by hiring on more dudes.
>not enough dungeons
Hire more dudes
>Need to integrate code from the new programmers making the dungeons
Hire more dudes
>translation too slow
Hire more dudes
>Hiring on more translators creates more work by forcing someone to normalise the writing style of the translators
Hire more dudes
>there's too many different teams working on things at once, they can't communicate effectively
Hire more dudes

HIRE MORE DUDES
This is a triple-A game, it deserves to be supported like one
SEDUD EROM ERIH

>>378838003
Ritualist from the guild wars style

>>378837975
Okay, so didnt get paid, it was quick and clean though

I mean i get if were bulk content but just translating quests sounds like an easy one man job assuming you have the language prerequisites

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>>378835498
I knew the danger was always there but I still can't say I'm at all happy about healer-type Pokemon Trainer being nerfed in some way

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10 Fire IV

>>378837024
>used to think samurai is easier of the two because it's another melee combo class
>their skills get revealed
>RDM turns out to be the simple one
Not that any of them are too complex to begin with

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>tfw not smart enough to play rdm
it's hard to be a brainlet

To be honest whm's presence of mind buff op.
Redistribute to cross class as well for balance
On second thought they should also
lower their mind party buff. its not fair
Lastly they should also nerf holy like bane was

If I want a Grimgar of Fantasy and Ash experience, would this game scratch that itch?

Is it even possible to make a good looking elezen with those fucking proportions?

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>>378838081
do you think blm can keep up with sam, chen?
your no utility caster is SHIT

>>378838052
But then Square couldn't spend all their profits on vacations and garbage no one wants.

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>>378838147
hell no

>>378838052
They have to spend as little as possible to take the profits to fund other stuff.

>>378838157
If you can't get over the proportions don't play elezen. It's part of the charm.

>>378834273
>there are people who still die to any dun scaith mechanic
>there are people who move for the floor hands and then stand still after they get them
>there are people who run towards scathach when she preps for her AoE slam

I've gotten my fair share of kicks for calling out shitty players for being so fucking shitty

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>>378838157
Maybe

>>378838168
BLM has utility. They can be a mana battery if AST or SCH manage to run out somehow.