FFXIV: Stormblood

A LOVER LOST
A FAMILY TORN

>tfw WAR main since 2.0 days
>tfw not worried since I enjoy my class
>tfw instead of laughing at other tanks Im just going to enjoy increased adventurer in need bonuses with them as well as instant duty pops

Other tanks, our reign shall continue

>tfw too bad for gubal runs and too tired for ARF runs
Just fuck my shit up

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Tank and healer arguments are faggots

Talk about Samurai being misunderstood and probably used incorrectly by shitters for a long time.

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THIS ISN'T FAIR! STORMBLOOD WAS SUPPOSED TO MAKE WHITEMAGES RELEVANT AGAIN NOT BE THE FINAL NAIL IN THEIR COFFIN

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Calm Daughter.

>>378820221
The only thing we know about SAM is that it wont see much party play since it doesnt contribute anything other than big dick DPS. But at least its going to be a fun job to play in dungeons.

>>378820152
Same, all the tanks are looking good. I wonder if they'll boost the adventurer in need bonus.

>>378820152
At the cuckshed for sure.

>doesn't use lightspeed
>doesn't heal when no one is focusing him and people are clearly in need
>doesn't use disable
>doesn't use aoe stun

>"omg why u so bad at feast"

Well maybe you shouldn't pretend to be a competent healer.

>>378819951
What's the people obsession with "big dick DPS"?.

>Balancing the heat gauge for MCH between 50 and 100
>Alright, time for wildfire
>BLOW EVERYTHING
>FUCKING TURRET SHOOTING SO HARD IT EXPLODES
>SHOOT MY GUN SO HARD IT LITERALLY BREAKS
>EVERYTHING IS EXPLODING

Fuck man. Why they gotta do this to me.

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>>378820193
>>tfw too bad for gubal runs
Why do you play the game if you're so shit you barely clear content above POTD?

>>378820329
There was talk about it. And I can imagine that due of adding 2 new DPS.

>2/3rds of the classes currently in the cuckshed will be in the cuckshed when 4.0 comes out

YOU HAD ONE JOB YOSHI-P

>>378820152
>Imagining for even a moment that you'll get through a dungeon on WAR without everybody else doing /sit for five minutes as soon as the instance starts until they can votekick you.

>>378820391
is this a serious question? Because this ffxiv. High DPS and speed kills is literally all there is to do post farm, and what determines what job is cucked or not.

>>378820221
>Misunderstood and used incorrectly

How would that even be possible?

Single Target: Slashing Debuff Combo > Attack Damage Buff Combo > Damage Combo, Iaei-Jutsu > Repeat. Whenever you have Kenki use your single target oGCD.

AoE: Use your 2 AoE Combos > Iai > Repeat

So its time to decide whos the cuck of the patch? Who will ho;d the key to cuckshed? Who will rule with iron fist upon cucksrealm? Who will wear the crown of cucks? WHM or MNK or maybe WAR with mighty fell cleave. Your call boyz.

>>378819951
SB is ours MNKs!
I mean look at that cool cinematic trailer starring 2 MNKs!

Fuck you yoshi

>>378820460
>t. shit at tanking and jealous

>>378820406
Literally the only place where farmers expect me to AOE the shit out of adds while keeping the tanks with zero cooldown usage alive

>>378820460
That's not a DRK

so is spamming 1-10 potd the fastest way to level?

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>>378820509
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/6eo01u/some_advanced_indepth_theorycraft_about_samurai/

In before reddit because all these faggots here are (You)ing each other over shitty cuck jokes about their tank classes.

>>378820816
Then you're not bad, the tanks are. Call them out on it.

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IT KEEPS HAPPENING

>>378820858
51-60 is better.

>>378820401
I'm fully expecting MCH to get some kind of rocket launcher in 5.0

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>tfw watched the reveal stream with friends
>had said like ten days before that if they made it DPS SAM I'd change my name and main SAM even if the numbers and class sucked
>changed my name the minute they showed the cinematic
>just waiting now

I don't care how long it takes, how much DPS queues will suck (I mean, fuck, I played WoW for like 11 years as a Warlock and Warrior, used to it) and if I'm lumped in with FOTM.

I finally get to play a sword DPS.

>>378820858
no
51-60

>>378820954
It won't work because "every healer before you could keep me alive"

>>378820827
Not even shitposting, DRK is fucking godlike in dungeons now. WAR is gonna do alright in dungeons because 6x Decimate is a lot more impressive than 6x Fell Cleave, but DRK basically won't need a healer.

>31 seconds of Blood Price on a 10+ enemy pull

>>378820460
>implying this has ever happened
The party would have to be extremely autistic.

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>>378821130
Not him but you're bad. I run as all three healers. WHM actually works well there due to Holy stuns. AST due to cards and celestial. SCH due to shadow flare, dots, and a fairy bot.

Get gud.

>>378821143
Im just happy I wont feel like dead weight as PLD in dungeons now. At least every pull I can do FoF total eclipse a dozen times.

Aside from Neptunia is this the most shilled mediocre game on /v/? Is Koji Fox making these threads?

>SMN gets Miasma 3
>SCH doesn't

IT'S NOT FAIR

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DRK KINGS, ROLL CALL

Should I level my DRG or BRD to 60 for Stormblood (both at 50 atm). Kinda leaning BRD cause songs and no more cast times and shit.

>BLM
>get Triplecast to mitigate movement-heavy phases
>AoE DoTs
>proper AoE rotation on top of it
>Mana Shifting from an unlimited resource pool
>Surecast buff
>Apoc is no longer BLM-exclusive, but still good
>no more Foe Requiem
>no more Raging Strikes

Meanwhile,
>SMN loses aoe superiority in exchange for stronger single target, which BLM still beats it out in
>RDM has mana issues in longer fights
>SMN and RDM have 2 and 4 battle res, respectively

I'm not sure if I'm cucked or not, but at least I have AoE Thunder.

How in the fuck do they ruin Monk on an expansion thats supposed to be 50% fucking MONK

>>378821143
>Implying any DRK Knight is gonna cast his Clemency even once when they could just Dark Arts'ing Quietus and Abyssal Drain while shouting at their Healer to do their Job

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>>378819951
So what are my SMN bros switching to in SB?

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Remember to get one of these for your WAR friends

>>378821524
Don't forget your fire iv nerf.

>>378821524
RDM at least increases damage for the whole fight and has a pretty big burst section when 90+ Black/White Mana. Even witht eh Mana Problem, you'll be bring a BRD and he'll bring the mana cross class anyways. BLMs and RDMs will more than likely be fighting for the slot

>>378821447

*cricket*

>>378821616
Add a fucking rng element to your class main mechanic

>>378821672
what are you even talking about, m8

>>378821524
BLM doesn't really 'lose' anything integral to their kit, and you can't feel too bad about losing raging strikes because everyone else lost it too.

You got slight potency nerfs to Fire II and IV but you can cast IV like 9 times in a row and plus you have a 650 potency spell every 30 seconds where SMN can only use Akh morn every 2 minutes

>>378821616
MNK fags deserve to die. I hope they enjoy their shed.

>>378821831
Oh fuck off faggot. Just cause you were too autistic to play the job doesn't mean monks a shit.

>>378821672
Dark Arts Abyssal Drain IS DRK's Clemency you loon

>>378820874
i saw that, but i really dunno if his math is correct on the seal conversion to kenki being better than just straight doing another 3seal
like it's not going to give you any more kaitens because you have more than enough sword juice gain naturally to cast it before every 3seal and have some left over
his general point seems correct in that kaiten and shinten are the only things you should be spending sword juice on tho

whats the source on 1 dungeon per patch

>>378821689
I don't know if I'd call it so much a nerf as I'd call it a rebalance.

With Umbral Hearts and Lucid Dreaming, you're probably going to get 9-10 Fire IVs

>>378821689
It's called Firaja, Kojicuck.

>>378821524
>Implying Resource Issues will actually exist in a Game where every Melee can have Goad, every Caster has Shroud of Saints and Mana Goad, AST is the flagship Healer and Ballad costs no Resources anymore and doesn't reduce damage.

>>378821820
>you have a 650 potency spell every 30 seconds where SMN can only use Akh morn every 2 minutes
This is why I don't understand why people are defending the bastardization of SMN. All the other classes pretty much get their heavy hitting attack frequently where smn has to wait 2mins outside of everyone's opener for party buffs

>>378821903
MNks are shit, sweetie. Plus they're going to be worse than ever before.

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Brothers of darkness

Where you at?

>tfw wasted 4+ hours leveling conjurer
I'm gonna quit while I'm ahead

>>378821672
DA Abyssal Drain and Quietus use different resources dumbass

Every Blood Price is going to be DA AD spam with Quietus mixed in every time you go above 50 Blood, Delirium for an extra long Blood Price every 2min as well

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>implying classes wont get inevitably buffed/nerfed within a month
they've practically changed the entire system for each class, there's not a chance they wont be making adjustments with a larger group of players providing input

>mfw I just found out Onion Knight minion from the Crystal Tower is a Dark Souls reference to the knights of Catarina.
Holy shit, any more Jojo references bro's?

>>378821924

Its called Fire IV, weebshit.

>>378821681
Probably SAM, I'm just happy to finally have a melee sword dps to play.
But I might stick with SMN anyways, because fuck yeah Bahamut.

>>378822102
I know you're memeing but I hate you anyway.

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My Alt is on 53 and I just beat all the ARR Story Quests, should I wait until Stormblood to level to 60 ?
Can we assume that Stormblood will up the XP Gain of 50-60 like HW did for 1-50?

>>378819951
revving up my fantasia as we speak

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>>378822102

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>>378820963
>mfw I do this all the time crafting collectables for scripts

So much wasted money

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>>378822093
unfortunately WHM just needs to be entirely reworked again. It's just ridiculous that their new class gimmick involves around spamming Cure/Cure II which a good WHM isn't going to be doing. According to the math you're casting on average 15 cures just to get your 3 lillies, which only serve to cut the cooldown of certain skills by up to 20% for 3 lillies, which is who gives a fuck.

You can't even make use of the 'minimal' version with only one lily which only cuts a cooldown by a whopping 4%

>>378822058
Quietus will always be Dark Arts'd and Dark Arts still costs MP, buddy.

>>378822248
>wetting the brush AFTER you put the toothpaste on
for what purpose

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>these nocturnal sect changes

What in the world? How exactly does YoshiP intend to balance around an instant cast critloquim?

>>378822110
>every other FF game is weebshit
Ah, a Wowfugee, then. I'll be seeing your tears in the Return to Ivalice raid.

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>>378822340
>Putting Dry Toothpaste in your mouth

>>378822223
Kill yourself instead.

>>378822351
by buffing it again later

>>378822007
>blm can use foul 30~ seconds into the fight
>if smn dumps the first aetherflow, goes into dreadwyrm (full duration), then dumps the second aetherflow it can summon bahamut within 35 seconds of the fight

i dno man, if you allow aetherflow recast to come back, smn can open fucking hard.

>>378822430
toothpaste is wet already you fucking dipshit

Is the noct buff enough to make it the better choice in dungeons?

>>378822223
you have two whole weeks before SB launches, don't try and be so macro efficient.

>>378822430
it's naturally wet you dingus

>>378822442
Kay but should I level my alt to 60 before or after killing myself?

>>378820630
>MNK gets TP reduction and potency reduction
>DRG gets TP reduction and potency boost
??????????????

???
?/

>>378822473
Did you forget that you have a 30 second to use DWT again? Did you forget you can't use aetherflow at all now in SB until you spend your aether atunements?

>>378822363
>not knowing pre-ff8 terminology for spell names in the west

Ah, a newfag that started at FF13. I'll be seeing your tears in any reference to good FF games.

Stay free.

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>>378822430
>capitalizing 'dry' and 'toothpaste'

>>378819951
What is the meta raid comp going to look like in 4.0, /v/?

>>378822627
>mnk gets 30% damage buff & 30% crit buff
>drg gets 5% damage nerf between b4b nerf & eyes
i dno man

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WERE MY BARDS AT?

Ya'll ready to give everyone ALL CRITS ALL THE TIME. And then sometimes GIVE 'EM MINICRITS TOO.

Errbody gets amped up!

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>Fester has a potency nerf
>only two dots instead of three
> misama 2 no longer an aoe,
>bane has a 80% potency nerf(Bio has a 40 potency with bane it's potency is now 8 which is nothing),
>aetherflow recovers 10% mp instead of 20,
>we lost blizzard 2,
>ruin 3 lost 50 potency
>ruin 4 has same potency as current ruin 3 but it's a proc
>bahamut only shows up two minutes after pull starts meaning you can't allign your damage with other party buffs
>after that bahamut will only show up once every two minutes
>shadow flare is now an ocd you can use every 60 seconds so you can't place another one down as soon as it ends
>can not use aetherflow abilities in dwt
>tri-disaster buffs ruin 3 but still less potency overall

Only pro is tri resets now after activating dwt

>>378822248
>tfw this picture was literally me this morning
including the black part

also a lot of good that shit talking did monks enjoy your long vacation in the cuck shed

>>378822667
It was only numbers because of space limitations and VII was a straight up bad translation, get on the the hair growth treatment, Koji.

>>378822307
It takes 10 Blood Price procs to power a Quietus, and only 5 Blood Price procs to power a Dark Arts. By the time you can use Quietus, you have a Dark Arts worth of extra MP to spend.

If you're getting enough MP to alternate AD and Quietus, you can DA every Quietus and every AD, and the only net MP loss will be from the base, non-DA'd AD (if you've got any more enemies hitting you than the exact minimum to use Quietus every second GCD, you're probably at a net gain).

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>>378822627
>Tornado kick is a 330 potency attack that MNK will never use because it eats all your GL, and was not adjusted at all for SB
>SAM gets a 720 potency attack (which can be further buffed by 50%) which they can use whenever they get all 3 sen open, which are ONLY used on these attacks

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>>378822729
PLD
DRK
SAM
SAM
SAM
SAM
AST
AST

>>378822686
>Speaking babbies first language that has no capitalization outside of names.

Cap'ing dry is dumb tho until it's Dry™ branded toothpaste.

>>378822686
When not wetting the brush with the toothpaste on it, a one mister Dry Toothpaste will suddenly materialize in your mouth. It's very unpleasant.

>>378822552
>>378822552
>>378822552

>>378822729
drk
pld/war
SAM
MCH
NIN
DRG

>>378822761
They nerfed monks speed and the base potency of every key skill.
Fuck Square.

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>>378822780
B R D A B E S T
E
S
T

>>378821916
http://www.mmorpg.com/mobile/features.cfm?read=11766&game=446&ismb=1
In before mobile I simply copied a link.

>>378822307
No, it won't. DA AD makes the DRK self-sustaining, +50 potency to an AoE move isn't that big when a single use of DP is +150 for the same MP cost

>>378822785
Fester might NOT have had a potency nerf, but rather just a stupidly translated tooltip.

It's 150 for 1 dot and "200 for 2", but 200 for 2 would be a downright nerf.

It was shown to still be stronger than painflare and the assumption that it hits "200 each", meaning its actual potency with Bio and Miasma on is 400, making it a buff.

>>378822659
20 seconds on dwt cooldown.
>fester -> painflare -> ed
>dwt
>fester -> painflare -> fester
>dwt
>bahamut
5s for first dwt
15s in dwt
20s for second dwt
bahamut

Sorry, 40 seconds, not 35

>>378822729
DRK / PLD
SAM / DRG / NIN / BRD - substitute either the DRG or NIN for a caster depending on raid encounter design
AST / SCH

>>378822430
the redpilled method is to first get a handful of water in your mouth and proceed to insert your tootbrush with toothpaste without needing to water it.

bet most of you fuckers have dirty ass sinks with dried toothpaste and hair all over

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Are you gonna join their FC anon?

>>378822785
>bahamut only shows up two minutes after pull starts meaning you can't allign your damage with other party buffs
I'm actually kinda curious how this will work in SB. As far as I know, DRG and SAM takes a shitton of time to rev up as well.

Actually almost all jobs can't open up with a burst anymore.

>>378822430
I'll put my dry dick in your mouth faggot.

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>>378823027

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>>378822838
>>378822839

>>378822861
What're they thinking with Riddle of Fire and its sks decrease? Why the fuck did they think it's a good idea? People play MNK partly because they like to go fast and fluid, RoF goes completely against that.

>>378822913
>odd numbered patches will have one dungeon and some other new content while even numbered patches will have two new dungeons and QOL improvements.

>>378823027
>800 lgbt people

I can imagine the drama already

>>378822949
Yes and then after have fun using bahamut every 2 (two) minutes while the blm can use foul every 30 (thirty) seconds along with 9-10 fire iv's!

>>378822816
Keep in mind, AD is about 0.5 of a Dark Arts, so that will be draining your MP as well.

>>378823067
>As far as I know, DRG takes a shitton of time to rev up as well.
That is incorrect.

>>378823141
They should just do 3 dungeons per even patch, none per odd patch, and just make fucking sure that the "new content" is something with some longevity that people actually like and that serves multiple purposes, like PotD, and not some shit like Diadem or Aquapolis

>>378822627
Dragoon lost a DOT, that's why

>>378823139
I'll be honest, monks been my main since launch. For a bit this actually had me consider not buying / playing SB at all.
I'll probably still get it and try it out. But I've completely lost the hype I had for it, and I've been subbed since launch to boot.

>>378823193
to be fair, bahamut is 2.1k or so potency when active. I think summoner is in a stronger position than you're expecting it to be, especially considering Garuda gives 10% magic vuln up and a party member gets a flat 5% increase in damage.

>>378821341
Yeah, fuck you. I can keep anyone shitter alive under almost any circumstance, but that doesn't mean you're suddenly somehow competent. If you can't stay alive during normal content by my fairy, Whispering Dawn, and your cooldowns alone, you are a gigantic fucking waste of air.

Furthermore, the more effort I have to put into keeping your sorry ass alive means less damage being put out into the group of enemies massacring your asshole.

So if you're the tank: you get fucking good, you inefficient retard. If you're the healer, take some of those cocks out of your mouth and demand some standards. Either way, get fucked.

>>378822846
Faggot.

>>378823243
That's pretty much exactly what I said in that second sentence.

>>378823280
I'm not a DRG main but I read somewhere that they can't go red during the initial burst period

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>>378822785
Ruin 4 is 220 potency. It says 200 but is only cast with the ruination thing, which has the 220 potency.

I'm not sure why they even bothered with the distinction because you can't cast Ruin IV on its own anyways.

>>378823280
dragoon has to use its jumps 4 times in total to activate Nastrond. That's 1 minute before you can get into Life and that's if you use both jumps immediately.

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Apologize to us true healers, right now

>>378820389
>tfw have to vent here because you'd get banned anywhere else and kicked/blacklisted in-game
hugboxes need to fucking stop

>>378822785
You save a shit ton of gcb by dots lasting 30 seconds now though, much more ruins are gonna fly out. Huge dps gain just right there.

Shadowflare only nerfed in aoe situation where a shit tank displace mobs from it. ogcd means can be weaved in dwt for bonus dmg, means swiftcast can be used elsewhere and gcd saved if you ever had to hardcast it.

Fester is confirmed wrong description since in mr.happy video, fester hits much more harder than painflare without crit, that was a no brainer really.

Garuda brings party foe's
Ifrit brings party hypercharge
5% dmg boost on a single target buff ( that one is still missing a clear description though )

SMN might actually be meta.

>>378823404
15% chance of getting it you are still doing less consistent dps unless you have super luck

>>378823286
But then people would resub every other patch. It's a marketing thing, they're trying to keep people subbed more often.

>>378823027
Is this the one that complained about an FC labeled <AIDS> when theirs is <TAINT>

>>378823435
Suck my dark cock, healslut.

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>>378823396
>>378823410
Oh whoops. I was thinking pre-4.0. Ignore me!

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Can someone post their DRK/Tanking ui setups

I just maxed out DRK and I'm struggling to sort out this abomination of a ui I've got at the moment

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>>378822015
>tfw SCH
>tfw not dead, but also not great
At least I get a cool computer move and still do some damage, I guess

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>>378823472
>>378823404
Oh wait I misread the tooltip, "Further Ruination" is when summoning Bahamut I guess.

But whatever stop wasting your mana on Ruin III outside of DWT

>>378821681
why the fuck would SMN players switch after finally getting what they want?

>>378822015
>>378823587
Dont know why I replied to that post

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>>378823587
SCH doesn't get huge game changers because it worked great anyways. I can't wait to use this tool

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>>378823587
>thinking about that sch aoe nerf
>no miasma 2
>no blizzard 2
>bane nerfed beyond belief
>shadowflare only once a minute

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>>378823341
>Every tank I get is a shitter wahh
Maybe you should PF then if you're not supposedly the problem and find said competent tank.
I heal fine tyvm and if you read, being all three healers I generally can roll with whatever tank class feels most comfortable with.

>Using DF
You never go full retard.

>>378823623
Every ability of theirs were nerfed for it and despite bahamut hitting hard BLM hits harder and more frequent so why not play blm?

>>378822814

You're just mad that Koji got jap pussy and you didn't.

>>378823567
Put darkside and grit on mouse buttons if you have them. I have blood weapon on E, carve and spit on R and abyssal drain on F. DA is on F4, provoke on Cedilla. I don't remember the rest because I stopped playing.

>>378823684
It does seem like they watered it down a bit though, which is unfortunate. Also dungeon runs will be boring now because of >>378823708

The core of the class is still there though, so I can't complain too too much

>>378822025
Level all healers desu

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>>378822785
Use Tri-disaster, which by that I mean Bi-disaster.

Not sure how strong that Ruin buff is though

>>378823790
Just play whm or ast for dungeons then play sch for real content

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>>378823567
Got targeting on my mouse

>>378823708
shadowflare being on a 60s cooldown isn't as bad as you think since it's instant cast, and free.

So you don't have to waste GCDs on casting it, and it saves a lot of MP, which I guess matters more for SMN.

>>378823824
It's 20 potency so that makes ruin III hit for 170

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>>378823751
Why do you play video games? To maximize your DPS at every turn like an autist or to have fun? God I hate the XIV community and the way you faggots force the absolute optimal setup for every fight when it is far from required.
Do you enjoy SMN more than BLM? Play SMN.

>>378823848
You know this honestly didn't even occur to me
AST is my side class anyways

I'll just miss the good old days of matching the DPS in dungeons with SCH

>>378823892
the issue isn't that i can get it out quick in the first cast, it's that for 30 seconds after i use it, I can't use it again.

I havent played since that yokai watch event. Is there anything important i shud do/missed other than main story quests? I was getting inks or some kinda gay shit for my zodiac too that would take super long to get unless u had god tier gathering or crafting. Also will my rotation be shit? I dont know if its like biking do u ever forget that stuff? (im nin main) plz respond

>>378823567
>using numbers past 5-6
why

>>378823923
t. roulette hero

>>378823892
Yeah and I now have to wait 30 seconds before I can cast it again instead of just casting a new one after. Who cares if it saves mp it's a dps loss

>>378823963
mmo mouse, 1-12 are all on my thumb

>>378823980
t. autistic parsefag

>>378823824
more like
DI-saster right

>New cross roll skills means no more having to level up another class
>Meaning there will be a ton of new shitters who never touched anything but their "main" and has no idea how other classes work
>Combined with all these new skills meant to help cover and assist other classes

Oh boy.

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I just wanna be able to punch shit while not being a walking meme. God dammit Yoshi-P.

>>378819951
>Currently speedrunning 2.0 before Stormblood

Help I just beat Ifrit. What are some things I can do to speed up the progress?

>>378824034
Leveling something to 15-34 doesnt teach you shit.

>>378824034
Its even worse because the game auto assigns 5 of them, so shitters wont even need to read the other tooltips for the other skills

>>378824041
you could join team ninja and kick people
kicking is a lot like punching

>>378823963
>not having an MMO mouse
>not having all your hotbars on your finger

It's like you actually want to put effort into playing an MMO rather than laying back and jacking off with your free hand.

>>378823027
Imagine the HIV going around

>>378824095
Buy a skip potion in 2 weeks

>>378823923
I want to do raid content. If my class is shit no one will take me. I don't care about anything else.

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>>378824029
>It takes him more than 12 minutes to run Gubal Hard!
And I'm being generous with the time

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>Queue for leveling roulette as heals
>Get Brayflox NM
>Only tank and I are 60, both DPS new
>Tank suggests I DPS
>mfw this faggot thinks I'm gonna DPS with two new DPS in a sub 60 dungeon instead of being on /v/

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>>378824095
>Help I just beat Ifrit
lmao holy shit
good luck

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I have all healers at 60 and will be leveling them to 70 first. I just want to heal.

>>378824192
>he doesn't have friends who'll take him as whatever job he wants to play
must be hard

>>378822785
>Not-yet-final change
>Extra buttons=complexity!
>The least used spell in the game got cut, boo hoo
>80% potency nerf only applies to 5+targets
>but you get a self refresh, as does sch
>also never fucking used
>everyone lost potency across the board
>see above
>one minute if you manage aetherflow, which you should do anyway
>waah I can't bitch at the tank for not pulling the whole fucking dungeon any more cuz I can only burst every two minutes
>I agree actually that's a dumb change that overestimates the intelligence of the average tank
>why would you use aetherflow abilities in dwt? It doesn't stack aethertrail now

cmon man I'm a sch main and I'm not happy about bane's flare treatment, but at least it discourages idiot tanks from overpulling the whole dungeon at once.

Maybe.

Probably not.

>>378824181
But I would still need to do the quests and I'm not richfag to spend extra $60.

>>378824231
>he doesn't play sch for leveling

>>378823987
no aoe situation should last 2 shadowflare cycle. Single target you treat it as a a free ogcd dmg and now saved mp nets you more broil 2.

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I havent played since that yokai watch event. Is there anything important i shud do/missed other than main story quests? I was getting inks or some kinda gay shit for my zodiac too that would take super long to get unless u had god tier gathering or crafting. Also will my rotation be shit? I dont know if its like biking do u ever forget that stuff? (im nin main) plz respond

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>>378824226
>He runs Gubal Hard!
>>378824192
If your groups are shit enough to blame not getting clears on a simple DPS class change then they're just as autistic as every other person that forces the parser meme.

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Scimitar Pro master race here and ready for Stormblood.

At what level will SAM and RDM start off at?

>>378824370
30

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>>378823567
Here, big boy,

>>378824370
>>378824404
its 50

>>378824370
They start at 50, and are unlocked in ARR areas. Are unlockable as soon as you beat Ultima weapon, so they want to make it a bit more accessible than HW jobs.

>>378823321
I feel like its way too bursty though. SMN's single target damage is already rng dependant now with ruin iv proc's, and now you can only burst every 2 minutes. Really not that great imo.

>>378824370
50

>>378824404
It's 50 fgt

>>378820284
it's a nail in the coffin for both whm and sch. yoshi p doesn't know how to balance healer roles other than buffing ast non stop.

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>>378824231
>Saved a thumbnail instead of the .gif
Imbecile.

>>378824192
>>378824278
>doesn't try to get world/server first or speed kills
You can do any raid with any class but if you want to be the best you have to play the best classes

>>378824231
>Queue for leveling roulette as heals
>Get Toto-Rak
>It takes like 40 minutes
>Want to kill myself

And this is why I prefer to just do PotD. Some of the dungeons you get in roulette are miserable.

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>>378824449
>>378824462

>>378824458
That's machinist in a nutshell, and machinist is fucking amazing because of its high burst.

>>378823301
Didn't monk also lose their touch of death dot?

>>378824343
>>378823956
Stop posting and read.

>>378824505
Nobody posting here is in a server first group.

>>378824585
Yup

>>378824298
>everyone lost potency across the board
>SAM has an 800 potency aoe that they can buff 1.5x
Explain this Yoshi.

>>378824670
Translation error. It's a 50% buff.

>>378824717
50% buff IS 1.5x

>>378824717
you know what happens when you multiply by 1.5?
thing increases by 50%

>>378820391
What's the question? Doing the biggest dickest dps means that even if you get grouped with complete retards at least you're doing your job correctly and you don't have to rely on augmenting idiots damage.

>>378824507
I'm only doing it becasue I'm working on another relic for WHM

>>378824670
>SAM has an 800 potency aoe that they can buff 1.5x
You can't buff Guren.

Kaiten only works on weaponskills

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>>378824448

>>378824095
Are you a neet? If not then don't bother.

>>378824370
They both start at 1, RDM comes unlocked from the get-go but there's quite a runaround of a quest to unlock the SAM job.

If you do chose SAM, make sure you use WAR as your subjob for that sweet, sweet Double Attack and Berserk

>monk fags
>m-muh riddle of fire slowing me down
You're obviously meant to use it in conjunction with brotherhood to throw out a shitton of forbidden chakras while the party is feeding your stacks.

>>378824826
the unlock quest for SAM wasnt THAT bad

>>378824758
>Working on WHM relic

Are you me? I just got done spamming Gubal for days for umbrites before the embargo was lifted. Now I wish I had spent that time doing something else.

>>378824717
Wrong, JP tooltips say same.

>>378824095
let me log in your account and ill finish that shit in half a week

>>378824826
i dont get it
is it a ff11 joke

>>378824769
It is a weaponskill and people tested it.

>>378819951
Why are you guys talking about FFXIV when there's FFXV out there?

>RDM rotation has all the complexity of a Balance Druid
>people will still do 3.0 DPS on it

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>>378824356
which one and why?

blm potency nerf suck dick FFS yoshi why

>>378824890
What's this embargo are you talking about?

>>378824962
G600

RDM seems so gimmicky with it's procs.

Seeing other healers continue to bitch about random nitpicky shit after the assraping WHM took is a real eye opener. You fucks make these months of tank shitposting look like civil discourse, fuck off already.

>>378825000
I would assume he's talking about press info embargo on SB skill info and shit

>>378824951
>SMN's still use tri disaster outside of DT when there's no reason to

>>378824951
WoWfugees need to go back

>>378824769
Alright thats my mistake. But they still get a 800 pot aoe along with 100>200>360 aoe combo. SAM is literally the ultimate dps class. I honestly dont know what Yoshi was thinking when they made SAM.

>>378825000
Media embargo, aka 2 days ago when all this info was released.

>>378825031
it's not gimmicky
>if proc -> cast ver[spell]
>if no proc -> cast jolt/impact

fairly simple

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>>378824919
hey, he asked me what level RDM and SAM started at and I told him

>>378824962
I switched from a G600 to a Scimitar. IMO it feels better in the hand

>>378824930
The JP tooltips were really explicit about Guren being ability and Kaiten only works on weaponskill

Expect it to get changed/nerf. It's not like SAM's aoe kits is already ridiculous anyway.

>>378824962
>>378824962
I prefer the g700

>>378825043
>>378825084
Haven't been following, how bad did WHM get destroyed?

so i got my 235 gear from frontlines

new to being level 60

what do i go for now?

>>378824962
joystick

>>378824962
The G600 thumb buttons look kinda dumb, but having them canted like that makes it much easier to get an intuitive feel for where each one is.

>>378825150
Dun Scaith and finish the main story.

>>378825104
You are not funny.

>>378824962
Damn I've always wanted to try these out but so far I've been just unable to switch away from Razers Deathadder. It just feels so good in my hand.

>>378825167
because it's best

>>378825104
this is a ff14 thread punk

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>>378823567
I found a pretty good system for my hotbars, having 3 horizontal lines with buffs and stuff going on top, off gcd and general abilities on the 2nd line and main rotation on the third. Q, E and R are really good places to put stuff, especially with mundras on NIN. You could probably put something on S too since you're rarely backing up like that.

>>378824670
>Potency is still subject to change
>SAM still brings nothing useful for the party
>SAM will be 3.x MNK, big dick deeps but weak as fuck in 8-man content due to lack of raid utility
>SAM will be dungeon trash that nobody wants in their static

Besides, potency is an idiotic measure when you consider that weapon damage could be lower than NIN daggers. Almost as if the reason for potency to exist is to provide an easy method of deciding the best skills to use within your own class.

600 potency heal on WHM is not necessarily the same as a 600 potency heal on SCH or AST unless all 3 have equal weapon damage per ilvl, I'm honestly too lazy to check

>>378825061
I'm not questions SAM's ridiculous deeps at all. Shit looks bonker. Also comparing Guren to Dragonfire Dive makes me salty as DRG.

>>378825132
The problem is that it got nothing while AST got better healing, better AoE healing than assize, a cooldown that draws all their hands, an ability to let you turn a card you dont want into a nuke or heal, and buffed shields to critadlo on demand. WHM on the other hand got the ability to sometimes have lower cooldowns when they heal, and Stone IV.

>>378824962
Does the G600 have mechanical keys like the Scimitar does?

>>378825132
Absolutely, completely, and Anally. mostly in that it's new mechanics are RNG procs on skills that they apparently don't use a whole lot, and multiple healer role skills were taken from WHM.

>>378824505
...and the point of this is what, exactly? Do you win anything other than bragging rights for getting a world-first clear? Can you even prove a world-first clear?

No?

Then it's irrelevant.

Should I put my card stuff on my mouse buttons as AST?

>>378822473
>Pull the boss
>Run away, reset the boss
>Now BLM has Foul 0s into the fight

:^)

>>378825224
My nigga, same. Been using that for years playing FPSes. Sadly there aren't any good ones any more so I've been playing XIV since last fall.

I can't decide, BRD, MCH or SAM for SB?

>>378825350
>Can you even prove a world-first clear?
FFlogs

>>378825246
they do have the same weapon damage

>>378825356
i do and it's pretty fun, it gives the job a whole new feel

>>378825132
RNG class gauge system that requires you to spam Cure / Cure II 15 times on average to fully utilize. No party utility buffs. Shroud, Divine Seal, and Cleric Stance stripped from WHM and made cross-class. Fluid Aura doesn't do damage. Stoneskin removed from the game.

>>378825369
ty shitposter-kun

>>378825246
Every job within a role has the same weapon damage.

>>378825246
Scared of losing your spot pal?

>>378825267
I already got the AST relic but it's seem as of recently all I draw/redraw 98% of the time is fucking spire and ewer and it's completely turned me off of the class.

>>378825392
NIN since you're a submissive faggot who wants others to decide for him.

>>378825392
If you can't decide yourself go support so you can buff my damage.

>>378825246
t. MNKposter

>>378820069
>a lover lost
Tataru is fucking dead
>a family torn
The scions are fucking dead again

>>378825449
If it worked off regen and medica ticks rather than cures it would be so much better.

>>378825350
You can with FFlogs. but don't expect anyone to link their shit because no-one has done anything they say and just likes to talk shit without ever backing anything up. It's standard /v/ etiquette.

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>>378825515
You must suck at poker if you quit at a few bad beats.

>>378822974
SAM is shit.

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Have they posted official lyrics for Revolution anywhere?

>>378825608
>Tataru
>dying

That bitch has Batman levels of plot armor. Y'shtola's the dead one, they've even foreshadowed it.

>>378825487
I'm pointing out that bitching about one class doing stupid high damage is idiotic, when MNK (the previous king of big dick deeps) was laughed at for an entire expansion, and SAM has the same problems.

>>378825668
At least put some thought into your shitpost, holy shit

I don't care what summoner is like is AT attunement timed still or is it an untimed resource? If untimed I'm maining the shit outta it desu.

If I start playing now, is there any old content that I won't be able to do like dungeons and raids? Can you maybe run through those yourself when you're at level 60 or do I need a party of people?

>>378825634
>hate the fuck out of poker and card games
>forced to play a job with cards

Thanks Yoshi.

I already miss Keen Flurry

>>378825720
>is there any old content that I won't be able to do like dungeons and raids?
apart from shit like seasonal events (halloween/christmas etc), no

>>378823824
>Not renaming it to Double Trouble

SE PLEASE WHAT ARE YOU DOING

>>378825718
it's definitely a threatened aspirin RDM "main"

>>378825719
It's untimed, but if you wife an aethertrail stack, aetherflow will only give you the attack you missed

>>378825730
That's OK. Just as long as Tataru-chan keeps making clothes and does cute things.

>>378825449
>Stoneskin removed from the game.
Goddamnit. SS was nice when shitters had weakness and I knew they would die to an Ex primal's flashy attack.

>>378825612
It would actually be absurd if it did, the Confession stacks would be at least. You could probably use only Medica 2 and Divine Benis as your only two heals and just DPS the rest of the time since Benis is oGCD.

>>378824483
>Battle Litany 2.0

Even if they only gave SCH that one single Skill and nerfed every other aspect of the Job it still would be a must have in every Static because of how fucked up the meta is in regards to Raid Damage Buffs.

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>>378825730
>Bitch about an aspect of a class that you knew about yet still leveled and played
Are you a masochist or just plain retarded?

>>378825720
Level 50 PVP is dead but I mean who cares.

>>378825720
Every dungeon still gets ran because of duty roulettes.

Raids are iffy, but there are endgame systems that encourage people to run old raids. Mention a first-timer bonus and pray I guess, or find an FC that doesn't mind teaching.

Trials still get run all the time for mount farms, and also because duty roulettes.

>gotten so domesticated from playing wow for the past few months
>cant monk anymore
>get my anus ripped the fuck up in dun scathe
>play bard
>just do passable damage

Should I get good now or stay rusty for Stormblood since combat changes or something maybe

>>378825709
But the thing is MNK had nowhere near the damage that SAM does. MNK is maybe 100-200 more dps than the other classes, but SAM skills just look so insane that it will sure be at least 30% more damage than the other classes.

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>PLD being relevant
I finally have an excuse to rock this

>>378825958
Monk at least will work exactly the same way. Shit, we don't even get any new damage skills.

>>378825910
You don't have a choice in XIV.

>>378825958
Well brd and mch seem to play like whole new classes, so maybe stay rusty if you plan to do those.

For MNK just figure out a rotation on a dummy the day before launch because not much is really changing.

>>378824962
I've got the G600 and it's nice to not use the keyboard for anything except typing.

>>378825464
Hey it's true, Polyglot has no timer. Umbral Hearts have no timer. Enochian can be kept up by Transpose. That means that if you were going for a silly parse or for some reason being brought to a speedkill, the best opener would involve resetting the boss, or zoning in with those buffs already up.

>>378826008
Only reason I grinded MGP. I was going to try PvP, but I would probably suck. I wasn't interested in dyeing it anyway.

>>378825910
Well if he raids he will likely be forced into playing AST considering thats the new Meta.

Its very likely that raid comps will have dual AST. Noct sect is absolutely trivializing when it comes to tank busters

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>>378825982
>>378820874
>>378821912

>spewing random percentage guesses before we can even play the game
How do you even breathe?

>>378826008
GARO gear is so obnoxiously fucking cool

>>378826023
What does that even mean? just play a different job nigga the games designed around letting you swap jobs easily.

>>378826102
>I was going to try PvP, but I would probably suck.
everyone else sucks, and in 24v24v24 its not like anyone will notice you specifically being shit

>>378825831
I use SS between every fucking pull in dungeons, sometimes twice on tanks in places where are their gaps between large pulls, just so I can get more damage off. It's actually going to be so fucking boring with no need to stance swap or do literally anything except mash Holy until I run out of MP. There's no risk anymore.

>>378826123
No you literally don't have a choice when getting into a static.

How much do you want to bet that there will be a "bug" on SB launch where aoe Balance accidentally takes Enhanced Balance's effect, giving everyone +30% damage?

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>>378823447
They really are the single worst part about the game.

I hope they tone down shit in Stormblood. 6+ button rotations are fine but 9 plus ocgds and rng specials and shit

fuck

>>378825759
>>378825914
>>378825947
I see, thanks. How fast can I level all of my classes to 30?

>>378826229
damn i didnt realise the new meta was ASTx8 fuck guess i'd better hit up potd

>>378826097
Youre not wrong on the already up thing, but the only boss in the past 9 months that allows for that is refurbished. Not a single other 8 man boss can you get polyglot in without waiting

>>378826023
This isn't Stormblood retard.
>muh balance
Tipping your way towards the 1% of the game's playerbase eh? Any comp is again manageable if your group is good; creator was a joke (before nerfs).

>>378825816
Hell yeah

>>378826225
I live under a rock, but is cleric's stance no longer gonna make you heal like shit? If that is the case, this is going to be boring indeed.

>>378826389
Doesn't matter when right this second, WHM and MNK are already locked out from PF groups. If you don't already have a static that will let you play those classes, you're fucked.

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>>378826115
Yes in the future.
If he's getting all pissy like a tranny about shit draws then he better man up or start playing scholar.
Bad beats are part of poker, part of life. Quitting because you get a temporary shit RNG shows you have no spine.

>>378826349
You can zone in with the buffs already up in that case.

Remember the Faust SSD strat?

>>378826486
It's just a temporary damage buff now. Healer damage will scale off MND.

>>378826486
MND is now the dps stat for healers.

Cleric Stance is Raging Strikes for healers, like 10% more potency on a cooldown. DPS for healers is gonna be braindead and they still won't fucking do it

What job is Islam friendly?

>>378826494
lmao what world do you live in buddy

>>378826494
So grow some hair and >>378826578

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>>378826651
MCH

>>378826578
what part of dual ASTs being meta do you not get?

SCH wont be getting into statics or PF groups unlless the latter is extremely desperate.

>>378825621
People also used screenshots with server time in the past to prove world first before FFLogs.

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>>378826651
MCH

>>378826389
>creator was a joke (before nerfs)
>TFW your shitter raid group couldn't even A11 (and usually wiped on A10) after echo. Now they want to raid in SB when it's going to be harder.
I don't wanna ditch my FC group, but fucking kill me now.

>>378826102
I've lucked out. Maelstrom whoops ass all day every day on Chaos. On Aether it was the Flames show

>>378824962
Corsair, better software (harder to set up but better overall), you can literally slide the keypad on the mouse back-and forth using a small hex wrench to perfectly adjust it to the length of your thumb and how you grip with your hand, the buttons are textured differently in each row so you always know where you are on it. It's THE best version of this type of mouse, I've used them all.

>>378826619
I'm sure world first raiders are going to figure if that's a thing or not, if they're not running sam/sam/sam/sam

>>378826761
A11S was really fun when we went back and did it at i240 no echo.

i270 is boring as fuck and ruins the fight. You just skip 75% of it.

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>6 days till official Rise lyrics

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>tfw WHM
>tfw learned to embrace the anger because it means you finally found another game worth getting worked up over

>>378826639
>>378826648
Oh wow, now trying to stay awake will be the hardest part of healing.