Level up! I think even my Xenoblade Chronicles X thread got better.

>>378812419
bussi*

Xenosaga universe convergence soon when Mira is revealed to be the sealed area of the UMN

What are the best arts, skills, and augments for a Knife/Sniper character? In endgame.

Dude

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>>378812592
>millenia of years apart
>converging
yeah no

>>378812592
It would make more sense for Mira to be the world Shulk made

>>378813208
Milenia is nothing in the gears saga timeline

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>>378812592
Frontier Nav is UMN
GHOST is GNOSIS
Yelv is Ziggy
Elma is KOSMOS and TELOS
Eleanora is biggest ruse
Takahashi's wild ride isn't over

>>378813346
that's even worse, you are basically saying that alvis recreated the original universe again

>>378813346
No it wouldn't Mira looks absolutely nothing like the world in the end of xc1

>>378813441
No Lao is ziggy, suicidal man who lost his wife/child and is hunted down by a black cloaked figure

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>>378813380
It is

Post more potato-chan

>>378813548
Lao isn't an artificial construct of pre-made human memories. Yelv is.

>>378813446
>noon and telethon exist on Mira
>taste mentions homs
>ruins in caldron look like Alcamoth
>pieces of Primordia look like hunks of Bionis
>there's an actual mini monado as an item

>>378813664
How is ziggy that in any way? He retained his human memories and wanted them gone till he met momo

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I've been replaying Xenoblade X lately and I noticed that during one of Lao's affinity missions, Tatsu says he's getting a similar vibe from Mondo (a guy on Lao's team) and the player character. Mondo is silent most of the time like the protagonist, I think he only speaks once in the mission. Tatsu even mentions it twice.
Anyways what I'm getting at is I think Mondo might be similar to the player and Yelv in that he has amnesia, or if the theory about the player being a J-body is true, Mondo probably is too. Its possible that Eleanora is placing J-bodies on teams throughout BLADE.
>>378813620
Ask and you shall receive, my friend

>>378812592
Aliens don't exist in the Xenosaga universe
>>378813685
what?

>>378813782
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98i3xsVkFbk

>>378813850
God damn, I want to play this game just for her. WiiU right?

>>378813685
I see this is your first tetsuya "It's merely a reference" takahashi "sequel". The world shares more similarities with xenosaga than xenoblade 1 other than shoehorned nopon who weren't even supposed to be in xcx till they were added last minute without any story purpose

>>378813864
There's a bunch of leftover elements from Shulk's world, the nopon knowing about Homs, the telethia, the ruins in cauldros that look like a high entia city, the rock formations in primordial look like pieces of bionic can't all be a coincidence

>>378813916
Yes I've seen this this doesn't do anything to connect yelvs character with ziggy unlike Lao, yelv is meant to mirror/foil the MC

>>378813864
>aliens don't exist in the xenosaga universe

Untrue, the imaginary numbers domain is unaccounted for

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>>378813950
Yeah, Wii U.

BORN IN A DISTANT LAND
WE'RE STUCK ON A
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLE DIFF'RENT
PLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANET
NO PEACE LOOKIN' AT THE STARS
*indecipherable muttering*
GUNS AND CANNONS

>>378813991
Nigga I've played every xeno game from Gears to Blade X. Blade X shares some character archetypes with saga that shares them with gears

>>378813991
>nopon who weren't even supposed to be in xcx till they were added last minute
not him but do you have a source for this?

>>378814309
Mira shares similar traits to the UMN

>>378814248
TROUBLES ALWAYS ALL AROUND SO WE STAY QUICK WITH THE GUNS AND CANNONS

FAGGOT

>>378814234
I drained my balls to her so much when the game first came out. I figure it's about time I actually play it.
Thanks for the pics.

HELLO?
IS THIS THING ON?
AM I ALONE?
IS ANYONE THERE?
I NEED A BIGGER GUN!

>>378814453
The UMN isn't a place nigga, it's human consciousness. Also on character archetypes, Elma is actually a fusion of KOS-MOS, Emeralda and chaos. Lyn is a MOMO stand-in and Lao is an obvious Jin/Citan expy and the rest of the cast is so forgettable I don't even bother with them

>>378814329
On the jp site. I read the shit as it was updated but I can't find it now in that mess. I think it was something along the lines of they were debating whether to put in nopons or not but they ultimately decided to

>>378814230
those are humans

>>378814692
>human consciousness

Exactly, Mira put consciousness back into mims despite no database

>>378814248
not even a distant land*
no peace looking at the stars trouble is always all around so we stay quick with the guns and cannons

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Will he redeem himself in the sequel?
There WILL be a sequel, right?;_;

>>378814636
HELP IF YOU CAN
PLEASE WAKE ME UP
NOT TO SOUND CLICHE
BUT THIS WORLD SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKS

>>378814781
>U-DO/wilhelm intervention of gnosis

>>378814872
yes but it's still a physical landmass. A better comparison would be with Rennes Le-Chateau, a landmass in space that screws with time and space, similar to how mira messed with consciousness and language

>>378814975
He is already a combination of Lao and Luxaar, not really the Lao we knew and he got found by the dark knight and who knows what he's up to

Sequel when? I loved flying around on my giant robot

>>378814975
No. Nintendo is too busy milking smash children to care about the history of the Xeno franchise. Just give them a XC sequel, free money and maketing.

>>378815025
At the end of saga 3 the umn is contained in one place by chaos

>>378815157
this year ;)

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>>378815160
>he thinks smash bros is the reason XC is getting a sequel instead of XCX

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>>378814975
>Sequel

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>tfw my computer crashed and I lost all my Xenoblade X screenshots
I had a ton of good shit too. Took lots of screenshots of some of the more obscure sidequests. I also had a bunch of stuff saved related to the lore and I would use them to help settle arguments here.

>>378815224
yes in the Upper number domain, thats why they can't use hyperspace anymore

>>378815020
The U-DO is a higher dimension and wilhelm is fucking weird because he is something like the god/guardian of the universe

>>378815279
He talking about riding robots, not fantasy wildlife simulator 2000

>>378815410
It's implied he was around roman times, even before

>>378815410
I thought wilhelm was supposed to be Lucifer

>>378815573
No he supposed to be Nietzsche

>>378815316
you tell me why then? Japanese amazon review? Or the "amazing" attach rate to XC on wii?

It's smash.

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How come so many plebs prefer general fantasy over sci-fi?

>>378815758
they didn't grow up in the 90s. Their first jrpg was Final Fantasy X.

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>finally get 100%
>get nothing but a barracks decor and elma's eternal gratitude
what was the point

>>378812419
Why is this game so underrated?

>>378815958
It's about the journey, not the destination anon.

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>>378815865
I'm a '94 fetus and I've always loved sci-fi more than fantasy. I even liked Sym-Bionic Titan more than Samurai Jack.

>>378815958
It's better than getting a literal pile of shit.

>>378815974
It has niche appeal and barely anyone knows it exists since its a Wii U game.

>>378815573
no he is a good guy, he knows that the universe will end because humans are retarded or something like that so he keeps rebooting it

>>378815974
>>378816178
It is exactly as it should be rated. The irony is that it would have worked better and it would have sold more if it wasn't a xeno game

>>378816282
What did he mean by this?

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*Blocks you path*

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>want to craft HB's DLC Skell because the design looks really cool
>locked to level 30

Who's the best side character and why is it Professor B?

>>378816343
people bought the game expecting XC2, and because it wasn't XC2, it's shit.

>>378816343
there is no room for interpretation here.

>>378816484
Didn't Saga and Gears fans like X more than the first one?

>>378816451
He is my favorite character but i dislike that there's time travel because i'm scared that takahashi will try to pull some time travel bullshit in the regular story for future games

>>378816363
This guy casualfiltered me for a while, then i discovered the retardness of overdrive

>>378816451

Because he's literally Doc Brown.

>>378816553
You just need beam resistant armor and maybe someone who can use Smooth Recovery and you're golden.

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>>378816534

>>378816534
They did but you can count with only one hand, the number of dedicated Saga and Gears fans who bought a Wii U just to play XCX.

90% bought it expecting XC2, and dropped it.
10% bought it just for Mechs.

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I want an FPS Xenoblade X spin-off because the guns look so damn cool but you can't see them that well in a third person perspecive and with the camera set really far away

/r/ing the webm of Elma gaining affinity hearts from helplessly sitting back and letting the ayy lmaos get killed.

>>378817021
I wish Monolith Soft branched out more. I liked Baten Kaitos and XCX. I think they can make a really good FPS/Metroidvania game if they tried.

>>378817293
They are at the forefront of open world/jrpg design in my eyes, they can keep doing what they're doing

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>>378817276

Does anyone have the youtube where someone recreated the XC2 reveal trailer in Xenoblade's engine? I though I saved a link to it but I can't seem to find it.

>>378817523
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kfL9zTT68g

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HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONK!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GxUMMGyZcM

>We will never have a trailer like this ever again

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>>378817475
open world FPS by monolith when

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I want to fuck Goetia.

>>378818020
And people are splerging over 2Bs ass. Monolith knows how to make superior ass.

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>>378816440
>using xbcxgecko to give it lv 80 armor & lv 60 weapons

>>378817506
I really liked how they showed there was some problems within blade and some of the city

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Reminder that the Orphe are the best aliens

>>378818463
>some problems
>some
most of BLADE are literal niggers who will shoot their comrades in the back for a few extra credits. They even let a convicted serial killer onboard.
NLA is a shithole.

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>>378818020
It was really weird how she got hyped up as this big villain and then dies unceremoniously in her first fight. Then a couple chapters later they hype up another octopus dominatrix who also dies like a bitch.

It's unusual because Takahashi is normally great at charismatic, scenery chewing villains.

>>378818626
Really surprised me how good some of the side quests are.

>>378818736
The story was rewritten 50% in to be more gameplay focused

>>378818736
Remember that they had to change the script a lot after they decided to have a silent protagonist and an online component. That probably explains it.

>>378818736
Takahashi burned 90% of the budget on the 16 voice options with nearly 100,000 lines of dialogue.

And we all know that Nip voices aren't cheap.

Iwata Asks mentions this. Animated trailers are 2nd most expensive. Game engine is the least expensive.

>>378818560
I was sad when the girl Orphe died.

>>378818626
Your right I'm surprise new L.A. Didn't fall apart.
>>378818770
Rise of the Blood Lobster was pretty good besides collecting 99 damn lobsters.

Is it true the game has no DEEP LORE? I played gears and blade and the bonkers lore was the best part. my buddy played 80% of the way through before quitting then watched the ending and told me there wasn't any.

Do you believe that there will ever be a connection made between the Xenosaga/XCX universe and the XC one?

>>378819742
The lore is in the sidequests, and collectopedia.
Humans are the creators of Zarubaggon

>>378818560

My biggest complaint about this game is that they have so many interesting and well-developed alien races, but the playable cast is almost all human.

We get to learn all sorts of cool things about how the Orphe reproduce or how the Prone celebrate funerals, but L and Celica are the only members of their kind.

>>378819908
Elma may have some relation to Celica's race. She's a Qlurian, and during Chapter 12 Luxaar says that the Lifehold's energy shields are based on technology that can only be found in the Qlu system.

There's also unused voice clips in the Japanese version suggesting that Tatsu was originally going to be playable.

They scrapped him because having a fourth required party member for story missions would completely lock-out the player's other options.

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>>378815160
>implying they're not on the same timeline
>implying X isn't part 10 in Takahashi's next sci-fi epic

>>378820240
Would've been interesting to see how they implemented that with the class system.

>>378819908
Don't know about L but Celica was suppose to have a bigger part but it got cut.

Is this game playable on PC?

>>378823298
The framerate is horrid and there's no online.

>>378823378
R I P

>>378819829
I doubt it. If there will be, it's not going to be blatant or officially stated as canon. Too many legal troubles for that.

>>378819829
They can't really connect it to Xenosaga since Namco has the rights to it.

>>378813850
I'm just in that part, I have to raise affinity with Lao and wow I hate this.

I've been loving this game so much this far, but the requirements for story missions are killing it for me, it adds a couple of hours of grinding and boring stuff between the actual fun missions. I really like this game but I hate having to raise my affinity with Lao, having to explore 10% of the world and having to grind to level 30, it's not fun, this is secondary stuff for a reason.

>>378824094
the sidequests are usually more interesting than the main quest.

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>>378818020
Your sperm would probably poison her, if not outright kill her, given what human genetic material is shown to do to the Ganglion.

>>378815365
You mean screenshots like pic related?

When the Xenoblade Chronicles X Switch port isn't announced at E3 I'm going to get it for Wii U just to justify my purchase.

>>378824835
Its been out for a year and a half. If you have a Wii U just pirate it.

>>378824094
You're in luck, Lao gains affinity WAY faster than other characters.

I actually had a route to get him up to the prerequisite amount right after the start of chapter 6 just from dialogue options while accepting some quests around NLA

Here's my incomplete notes, it's been so long I forget what the unmarked quests are though:
Quest Corwin: option B option B option A option B option B
Quest by gate, Tell about troubles, tell ma-non eat people
Quest
Quest L: tell him to remove foot from butt option B
Quest Prof B: option B option B option B
Quest
CHECK LAO AFFINITY

>>378824094
They REALLY should have used a common XP pool for this game.
They do it with BP, there's no reason not to do it with XP, specialy in a game with a huge amount of very interchangeable party members.

One of the biggest flaws of the game imo.
Sure you could rush to the end game and power level everybody super fast, but then what the fuck do you do with the affinity?
It's like they incentivise and punish you for experimenting at the same time.

>>378825657
Gaining affinity from combat is honestly super slow anyway.

If you don't get it from quest dialogue and heart to hearts, then you're basically stuck grinding that one barracks terminal mission that gives quite a bit of it.

>fillavents throw sperm into the air during a full moon

>>378815974
Shit inventory system.

>>378819742
Yes there no lore. It incredible bare.

>>378825935
I heard from other to regularly switch lin and elma when not doing story mission so you can rise the other affinity.which I wish I would've done cause it's pretty easy rising lin and elma affinity since there with you so much.

>>378826781
Yeah I pretty much never kept Lin and Elma in my party unless I had to. Whenever I was out exploring or doing sidequests I would always take others with me.
They're required for so many story and affinity missions that its basically impossible for them to ever be underleveled

There was one thing nice about it.

The ability to sell stuff you just got right from the post battle menu.
More games with random bonus effects on gear need that. I really wish it was a feature in Tales of Beseria at least.

>>378826143
>>378827147
Forgot to quote

>>378825935
So instead of grinding in combat you need to... grind a mission or essentialy grind info on the streets because it's unlikely that you'll find most heart-to-hearts by luck... pick your poison.

The affinity system is practicaly screaming that it was designed to encourage experimentation and a constant rotation of members, but the leveling system on the other hand discourages it by making you either always have an underleveled party or only have a handful of ones with high affinity.

It doesn't make any sense. The XP pool should be universal and imo affinity should raise slightly faster.

>>378826781
That and Elma's souls voices are mostly melee, and that makes it much easier to raise during combat, triggering all the time by arts with generaly fast cooldowns. Alexa is super quick like that too.

But you should not have to do that. It's cool to have incentives to try other characers out, but you should also be able to mostly stick to those you like more or that compliment each other nicely either strategicaly or just through their personalities.

As is stands, you go through the game always with a bunch of random characters that have either the lowest affinity or lowest level, in fear that they'd get too far behind for you to be able to effectively raise their affinity later.

>>378812419
I'll miss potatoes
I hope X2 will keep everything XX had gameplay wise and improve it a bit.
Xenoblade X was just so good, I can't get enough of it.

>>378824835
XCX on switch would be worse than WiiU as the screen is actually used properly in XCX

>>378827252
I agree with the affinity rising up faster but thought leveling them up was pretty fast and easy.

I gotta go back and actually finish this. I was trying to do everything as it became available, and it ended up with all my characters with max affinity, max class rank, and max level with great armor before chapter 5. I even kept track of all the enemies in the game and worked on completing the Enemy Index. I was about to do Cauldros before I fell out of my routine of playing.

>>378828261
Leveling itself is super easy because you can powerlevel an entire set of members to 60 in one afternoon.
But if you need to do that, you've probably benched them for most of the game, otherwise they'd be at least around level 45-50. In that case, they probably don't have much affinity either because you haven't been using them.

Either system is not that bad, but they have terrible synergy together, working aganist each other pretty much.
Of course making the affinity go up faster would improve this issue, but it seems to me that they don't mix together at their core.

I hate to be the one making comparisons, but look at XC1. A shared XP pool worked great and that game had a significantly smaller pool of characters, while XCX not only has loads of characters, but also forces you to use one of them always, meaning that Cross will ALWAYS be super far ahead the others for no good reason.
Seems like a step backwards no matter how you look at it, even if you can find ways around to mitigate it.

>>378812419
Shitty ass game that should have never been made.

Phrases you don't want to hear this E3:
We are changing that.

>>378814975
How did he get mixed with the DNA goo and turn into a monster when his body is mechanical and his mind is controlling it from elsewhere?

>>378832841
I'm guessing his body was just detected as being foreign and attacked by the liquid same way as luxaar only human DNA doesn't BTFO MIMs like ganglion