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Finally they show gameplay for this expansion, what does /v/ think of Samurai?

https://youtu.be/aknKbqUYZ-I
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To the anon asking before: the archon throne does have unique racial poses, but they tend to be pretty samey and bland in comparison to the bomb chair, so it may be worth looking up how you'll sit before purchasing.
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Shed tech has really improved, I'm sure the wars, mnks, and whms will be nice and comfortable
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Oh, it's actual gameplay this time. I was expecting more "WOW THIS 'CLASS' IS AWESOME" shit.
I'm guessing SE just gave them a dungeon to play and very little instructions about each job, because is fucking up a lot.
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>Just got my P9 chocobo
do i feed it immediately or wait till it reach max rank?
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anon here from a few threads ago but missed on reply

As someone who's been away from playing XIV for awhile and enjoyed it should I come back for the expansion? Samurai peaks my interest.
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>>378804970
IGN can't play for shit. Samurai pressing random buttons, ninja not using Huton, standing in AoEs, garbage.
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I really don't want to watch this, it already feels like there's not enough content to go around
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>>378805530
All the media tour vids are legit painful to watch. Most of them played with default layout and had to resort to click random shit most of the time.
I don't like mr.Happy but it seems he's the only one putting little bit of effort in his videos, and even then that's kinda ruined by his false understanding of many skills and mistranslated tooltips.
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>>378805530
Just like DF.
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>>378805517
Better sooner than later if you want to have any idea what's going on, you'll need to clear Heavensward to start Stormblood anyway
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Frontlines is angry tonight.
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>>378805356
looks pretty comfy desu
as long as it doesn't freeze
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>>378804970

dammit IGN clean up your ui
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Which ARR and HW locations would you like to see in Stormblood in what way?
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>>378806064
Uldah getting torched in a glorious people's revolution. Potatoes roasting over an open fire optional but encouraged.
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>>378805356
>puny burger sheds that can't properly accommodate all the cucks
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Why worry about how the one dumb expert dungeon is goingto be for months when you could be talking about the shed.
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WHM DPS napkin math
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>>378804970
>leveling dungeon
>stopping and marking kill order
Lowlevel Sproutshitter here, is this actually standard operating procedure? I've just been running in and pulling shit as soon as the last pull dies since the three or four times I tried marking anything no one paid any attention to it. An Anon just told me to triple flash, pop Rampart, Halone Combo Tab Halone Combo Tab Halone Combo and it's been working so far. Does this actually change BEFORE I hit a level cap?
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>>378806370
Because roulettes will most likely have 3 instead of 2 and dungeons are mindless anyway.
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>>378806370
>muh one dungeon
Go home wow, SB is going to get more dungeons more often than HW
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>>378805801
Good point. I always hated missing Heavenward but life was crazy during that time so no way to play a MMO and have fun. I've seen so many positive threads lately which surprised me for how cynical /v/ is. Which leads me to believe its worth coming back for.
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>>378806416
Marking can help tell the DPS which to focus on so the mob shrinks faster instead of the DPS hitting different enemies. You can make it simple by only using one and two, since you rarely have more than 4 in a mob. It's not standard, but it can help if you want mobs to burn faster.
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>>378806470
No you only get one dungeon every other patch now.
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>>378806565
Yea, they're gonna just add that one to the expert so we'll get to farm the same 2, even numbered patch dungeons for 6 months.
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>>378806416
No, this hasn't been the case ever since 2.3 made everything casual as fuck. pre-2.3 it used to be a thing, because your party would get wiped in a level 34 dungeon if you wouldn't sleep the last of the kill order that has been marked by the tank. Now, the same dungeons that used to be low level are now extreme variants.
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>>378806565
No shit. So they add the two most recent patches together to make roulette work. It's not a roulette if there's only one thing.
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Hey I had to quit in 3.2, is DRK really nerfed/dumbed down? I thought it had some really fun mechanics to juggle in Heavensward... Do I go back to PLD?
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2.0: 5 DOTs, 2 Ruin
3.0: 4 DOTs, 3 Ruin
4.0: 2 DOTs, 4 Ruin
5.0: 0 DOTs, 7 Ruin
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>>378806786
Might as well be.
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>>378806416
Once you're past 50 and every class has aoe options is almost always better to pull as much as you can without dying into a single blob and burn them all down at once. Depending on what classes you get, this can happen before 50. Marking is obviously unnecessary for that.
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>>378804970
I really, really miss the teamwork that FFXI required. FFXIV is just too WoW. Everyone stands around and spams their rotations while avoiding glowing spots on the ground. Literally no teamwork and boring as shit.

Makes me sad.
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>>378806789
Stop playing DRK.
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So gimmie the rundown. How come Bahamut can lay waist to an entire continent, but I can kill Ifrit with a knife on a stick.
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>>378806864
I'd prefer 3 to 2 personally, especially if 1-2 of them can be done faster due to lower gear requirements. Dungeons are just for tome farming and occasional glamour.
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>>378804970
Not too sure about everything being combos, but the big dick hits, self sustain, lack of dots (yeah there's one and it's 60s, literally fire and forget) are nice
I also really like the character mocap. Best in the game yet
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>>378806292
What about the rape?
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>>378806786
>2.1 had 5 dungeons on the roulette
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>>378806918
Do any fucking ex primal or raid
It's not called a "one person fucks up everyone wipes" game for no reason.
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>>378807036
It's not rape if it's a potato.
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>>378807007
The Echo.
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>>378807081
2 of which we spent 3 months farming endlessly.
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which af3 do you guys like the most? all of them seem pretty good this time around
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>>378807007
Bahamut was very angry after being used as a battery for several millennia.
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>>378806401
My conclusion from my shitty math is that you could theoretically run a WHM without losing out on much, because they'll bring a bit of extra damage, unless Thin Air, Assize on 60s, and Lucid Dream isn't enough to keep their mana up, which is most likely the case. They also need to dot more than a SCH and Stone IV is more expensive than Broil II so WHM will more than likely run dry.

What this tells me is that in a WHM v SCH pick for second healer, theres no good reason to not pick SCH
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Behold, for this shall be your healer for the evening
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>>378807096
That doesn't equal teamwork. It's still just everyone doing their own shit all alone with no interactions with teammates. The only difference is one of them fucking up drags everyone else down, which is even worse.
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>>378807185
>we
Speak for yourself. I didn't after I got my +1.
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>>378807189
PLD by far.
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>>378807189
Whm and brd look good.
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>>378807189
Only the PLD and NIN of the existing classes. The rest look like garbage.
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>>378806798
People did bitch about it being a dot class rather than pet.

Goddamn Summoners are whiny.
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>>378804970
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>>378806789
Where were you when dark knight was guaranteed to be the best tank?
>Sole Survivor: New additional effect: Increases damage dealt to the target by 10% for the duration.
>Darkside: No longer actively depletes MP, damage increase 15% -> 20%
>Syphon Strike: Lv 12 -> Lv 10, Added Dark Arts bonus - Dark Arts combo potency: 390, removes Dark Arts upon execution
>Delirium : Restores signifcant portion of MP and extends blood weapon + bloodprice
>The Blackest Knight: 20%/10% barrier every 15 seconds that acts as an infuriate for DRK's bood gauge.
>Bloodspiller: DRK version of fell cleave that hits for 520 potency as long as you have DA + 50 blood.
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>>378807230
From what I've learned about Primals in this game, Primals can only exist if they have worshippers and energy, right? So how did Bahamut hang around for so long, and still have enough power to fucking rek the world?
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>>378807001
Who let you out of the shed war
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>>378807368
>Not 2.5.jpg

You fucked up
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>>378807189
RDM, DRK, PLD are my favorites.

BRD on girls.
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>>378807298
>mechanics that need to be done by more than one person
>support skills
>not teamwork
then what the hell is?
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>>378807351
>still not a pet job
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>>378807036
Oh we rape the shit out of em at the number 6 dance
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>>378807257
Report vg shit
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>>378807189
DRK and RDM.
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>>378807434
Most of the time they keep worshippers on life support, if I'm not mistaken.
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>>378806786
Not gonna happen, Yoshi said he does not want people leaving if they get the newer (harder, slower) dungeon.
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>>378807472
In 3.0 you spent a large portion of the battle in a trance.

In 4.0, it'll be mostly trance and bahamut.

It's slowly getting there.
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>>378807434
Did you forget everything you see in Coils? Especially those test tube dragons?
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>>378807434
The allagans were fighting dragons, and the dragons kept resummoning bahamut. So they imprisoned bahamut and a bunch of his followers in dalamud. So they'd keep him alive and he couldn't fuck shit up.
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I think people are underestimating thw effect Manshift will have on PLD OT DPS, especially for BLM. That shit is gonna give them pretty much a full MP bar nack for more Holy Cleaves.
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>>378807434
The Allagans were using Bahamut to beam aether from the Sun to the Crystal Tower or some shit.
Presumably when the Crystal Tower got fucked, and the aether had no where to go it just super charged Bahamut.
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>>378807189
blm is the only one I don't like
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Is this game fun yet?
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>>378807721
Why would BLM sacrifice their MP for PLD when they can do more on their own using that very same amount?
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>>378804970
it looks fucking awesome
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>>378807721
Finding a Black Mage that uses mana shift will be rarer than finding a Bard that sings.
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>>378807434
Dalamud is full of thousands of dragons that are kept alive in vitro to provide the prayers to maintain the image of bahamut. As for the aether, his body is basically a solar panel but for cosmic aether- the Allagans used him and Dalamud as an energy source, which was collected via the crystal tower. He's an incredibly powerful primal assembled based on the form of an incredibly powerful being sustained by an incredibly powerful energy source, of course he's fucking strong.
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https://www.bluegartr.com/threads/130112-JP-Media-Translations-Stormblood-Job-Role-Changes-(Famitsu-Dengeki-etc.)
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>Shield swipe gone

But why? It wasnt great gameplay but at least it was gameplay
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Is there any point in playing casters now that SAM exists and caster aoe has been gutted? Why did you do this to us Yoshi, what did we do to deserve this? We were already irrelevant for 3.0 raiding!
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>>378807790
We still have no option of joining the empire, so no.
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>>378807797
BLM can afford to do that after a Blizz 3, they're in Ice long enough for 2 ticks if you apply Thunder there so you'll still end up back at full even after popping Manashift
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>>378804970
I think FFXIV shills need to go.
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>>378807464
Interwoven actions requiring an order of skills being done in time with teammates.

Skillchains + Magic Burst were teamwork.
Sneak/Trick Attacking to trade hate on tanks was teamwork.

etc...
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i have 0 hype for this expansion but ill buy it and play day 1, then forget the game after a week. the core gameplay is shit
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>>378807938
>people kept asking for shield swipe to be a cleave
See what being retarded gets you
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>>378807938
It's still in though.
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>>378807721
I think people are expecting BLM to give MP to almost every job on every oGCD which likely won't happen.
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>>378807929
tl;dr
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>>378807974
You could clear A8S with a BLM dude. What the fuck are you talking about?
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>>378807346
i like the male whm, but dislike the thing on the back of the female one. it's like they purposely made it just to fucking clip through your weapon
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>Chocobo racing in R-300
>Sagoli Road
>Speed/Endurance/Stamina at 500
>NPCs still faster than me sometimes

Why is this allowed
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>>378807974
How the fuck did caster aoes get gutted when blm has thunder 4, triple swiftcast, and foul now
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>>378807346
>Midlander with Elezen ears representing the player model.

What did they mean by this?
Subraces confirmed?
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>>378808213
Stop speed running races
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>>378807658
I just started playing this game like a week ago.


Also, is there an option I can check that prevents my hotbars from cycling while I am fighting.
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>>378808243
/v/ only thinks in extremes
Why do you think this cuckshed shit is still going?
Not a damn person cares beyond top raiders and /v/
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>>378805356
Stay delusional dark fags. War is and will always remain the unmitigated champion of taking solid damage and dishing it back out. I don't see fag knights or cuckdins unleashing 6 back to back feel cleaves with a cd that prevents pretty much any ailments. That means nothing can stop those cleaves. NOTHING.
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>>378805773
I imagine that is what the average df player plays like
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>>378808213
Respect the content.
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>>378808061
>Interwoven actions requiring an order of skills
what are AST cards?

>trade hate on tanks
what is provoke?

this shit is a subset of teamwork, not everything that makes up teamwork. go ahead and try to do anything without a team. you can't
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>>378808330
Yes. You can turn off cycling.
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>want to start leveling BRD for SB
>haven't played since server move and don't even want to see how bad my ping is
Fuck
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>>378808213
Special racers like Teioh and Star Breaker have max stats too.

They're faster because they have head start and it's hard to catch up to them. Teioh burns himself out quickly though.
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>>378808337
But even top raiders can clear with the worst classes.
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>>378808243
It's just SMNcucks shitposting. SMNs and SCHs are the two bitchiest playerbases in the game, what is it in those books thar turns them into such pussies?
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>>378808353
It's called the bench, where you will be sitting.
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>>378808330
You're hitting shift something, unbind it
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>>378808353
>muh cleaves
Pottery
We told you the day of the shed was coming
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>>378804970
Looks slow as fuck to me lads.

Why does anyone play this shit again?
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>>378808498
not every game is f-zero
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>>378808498
Go back to button mashing.
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>>378804970
Why do some of the new ability icons look like complete shit?

Take Bloodbath for example. It's just a fucking shitty low detail hand on a red background. It's so fucking lazy. The old bloodbath icon was better. There's numerous cases where they did this too.
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>>378808498
XV patches come out too slow and are too small.
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>>378808498
Muh jobs and static drama over raid spots. Just look at this thread.
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>>378808491
Ah thank you kindly, I was testing out a new hotbar set up and ended up flipping to the wrong hotbar, had me quite in a kerfuffle
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>mnk gear shared with sam
>"of striking"
thanks koji
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>>378807243

That's the screenshot I took reeeeeeeeeeee
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>>378808498
>still linear path dungeons

So what changes? A new Mor dona/Idylshire to shitpost in?
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>>378808120
suck my dick short attention span faggot
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>>378808653
huh really makes you think
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>1 dungeon per patch
No really, why is this allowed?
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>>378804970
>Avoid red circles, this time with different graphics on the ground
>Press the same rotation over and over and over and over again
>Now everyone gets a cool bar on the side of the screen!
wew lad
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>>378808542
>>378808570
I just want to know why you think a global cooldown that long is acceptable. I'd fall asleep playing this shit.
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>>378808690
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>>378808653
I'm not sure what the problem is.
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>>378808716
if it meant we got something else like a another trial instead it would be nice. Of course we won't get shit
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>>378808737
Because the harder fights have a lot of movement, there are tons of OGCD skills, and if I wanted to slam the same button over and over again I'd play WoW.
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>>378808732

>complaining about mmorpgs

You're still in the minority famalamadingdong
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>>378808653
It's called striking in japanese. At least complain about things that are actually wrong.
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>>378808439
And now you know most of/v/ are not raiders.
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>>378808737
Because there is enough ogcd skills that make it so you basically are pressing 2-3 things every 2.5 seconds.
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>>378808737
You wouldn't be falling asleep if you were doing raid content. They require strict group coordination. Gotta do the jump rope mechanics correctly or everybody wipes. The GCD gives you time to think between actions so aren't just button mashing mindlessly.
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>>378808716
So Yoshida can fulfill a 4 year old promise.
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>>378808737
>that long
>half the classes have a way to go faster
>tons of ogcds
>at its absolute slowest it's a 1 second difference from wow
How's that adhd treating you
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>>378808716
Why are misleading shitposts allowed? Technically they aren't.
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>>378808737
That video is super casual content and the players in the video are fucking awful.
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>>378808337
not even top raiders care this much dude
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>>378808876
Reminds me of Final Fantasy: Fortress.
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>>378808653
>what are sword strikes
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>>378808716
Technically speaking, it's 1 dungeon on every odd patch and 2 dungeons on every even patch. Still very shitty though.

>>378808803
But in ARR we got shittons of side content IN ADDITION to three dungeons per patch. The idea that we'll somehow get more side content with them having to spend less time on dungeons makes no sense because there was nothing stopping them from making that shit before without taking away development time on the dungeons.
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>>378808737
>>378808812
>>378808859
>>378808874
>>378808879
>>378808951
RESPECT THE CONTENT
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The shitposting is strong.
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>>378808104
>not hacking the instance servers and having your own army of BLM bots follow your party around underneath the map and beam you MP constantly

It's almost like you don't think existence is reasonable and don't want to make things better
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>>378808467
>>378808493
Dark Knight
>no self heals
>no move to cut blood gauge usage
>reliant on MP
>can't take damage as well as pld
>edgy big sword to compensate for lack of DPS
PLD
>look like fags
>can't do any DPS
>reliant on MP
>hides behind shield
>300 sec cd for hallowed
WAR
>raw intuition, rampart, inner beast, vengeance makes us invincible
>OP dps
>str is viable again
>punches people to death when fell cleave is building up
>infuriate has shorter CD
>immune to every ailment
>doesn't hide behind whms like a fag
Stay salty, faggots
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>>378808803
Well he did specifically say new content instead of the repetition of dungeons. Post your wish list.
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>>378808998
B U T T O N M A S H I N G
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>>378808716
One dungeon and one gimmick on odd patches, two dungeons on even patches.
Can't wait to grind Blitzball for glamour and wait 72h for a boss to spawn at Eureka so I can complete my relic step!
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>>378808998
is that gif supposed to prove something?
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>>378809060
S O L E
S U R V I V O R
T R I C K
A T T A C K
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>>378808995
We did?
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>>378809124
it's supposed to make you reply
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>>378808982
Only a genius can create something completely new from noth-oh hey, is Ashe wearing WHM's AF3?
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>>378809060
>WAR
>not hiding behind the boss while the mt does everything

kek
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>>378808737
Because there are a ton of procs and oGCD shit and positioning that the global cooldown is rarely felt outside of faceroll content. And if you're a caster the long cooldown works against you by nailing you for 2 seconds.
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>>378809110
The one dungeon patches are so they can provide super savage content because the vocal small minority is always bitching about difficulty.
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Evens: MCH
Odds: SCH
Time to let fate decide my main.
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>>378807189
tfw two good AF sets in a row
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>>378809224
Is really going to be so hard?.
Like people have trouble clearing the normal savage.
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>>378809310
They said the people who worked on Savage Second Coil are the ones making it.
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>>378808995

The reason we got so many additional dungeons in ARR is because they kept repurposing unused sections of otherwise massive 1.0 maps, snaking those unused sections back into already familiar ones, and turning them into hard modes.
It's easy to churn out that third dungeon when 50% of the work is already done before you start.
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>>378809278
SCH is going into the shed while MCH is looking good, and this is coming from a SCH
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>>378809193
>Pull boss
>stand there and take damage
And that's how you PLD
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Bard, Mech or BLM? Trying to decide which ranged dps class to level before the expansion
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>>378809224
>The one dungeon patches are so they can provide super savage
Given that now we know it's a reused fight, nope.

It's for shit like Eureka, PotD and Aquapolis
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>>378809060
>str is viable again
what
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>>378809373
>sch is going in the shed
not with 20% crit buff and a smart healing fairy. SCH aoe dps might be garbage now, but it's single target is still ok.
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>>378807189
I unironically like MCH because it's incredibly down to earth and not some spiky faggy anime shit.
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>>378809130
DRK fag here. Explain more? Is trick attack not exclusive to ninja anymore? What did they change for sole survivor?
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guys if you have 6 meme cleaves can you have 6 inner beast too?

what about steel cyclones?
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>>378809386
>dont pull boss
>stand there and do damage
And that's how you WAR
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>>378809402
Reused fight still means it'll have new mechanics that separate it and it has been play tested to ensure it's not buggy and that it's tuned just right.

It's a time consuming process.
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>>378809408
he's shitposting. Tanks are back to needing str for damage, but they can't equip str accessories.
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>>378809395
All of them are looking incredibly good in the expac, but don't do BRD and MCH because they will be heavily changed. The obvious answer is BLM
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At what level do you get that samurai robe?

My autism triggers if I have to level a samurai looking like a jester throughout heavensward content.
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>>378809437
I don't mind the tether but the job is getting dumbed down so much I'm just bailing for BRD, maybe RDM or MCH
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>>378809467
You know the effect Sole Survivor has in PVP? It is not in PVE instead according to JP tooltips. It could be removed before launch but for now that's what it is.
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>>378809140
PvP
Housing
The Hunt
Retainer Ventures
Sightseeing Log
Gold Saucer (which itself included tons of related subcontent like Triple Triad and Chocobo Racing)

Compare that to Heavensward where out of all the shit we got, Palace of the Dead is the only thing that is even remotely alive. People MAYBE run Aquapolis once in a blue moon and Diadem (which they had to make twice because the first iteration was utter dogshit) is only used by gatherers these days. Lord of Verminion was dead on arrival. Meanwhile all of the stuff added in ARR are still relevant and used with maybe the sightseeing log being the exception. This is in addition to having an extra dungeon per patch over HW in addition to several trials.
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>>378809471
I don't think you can use the skill that reduce IB cost by half in Defiance since it shares CD with Unchained.
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>>378809224
The ghost of Legacy of Steel still haunts us.
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>>378809554
the job was kind of fucking dumb before anon.
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>>378809508
And that doesn't matter because the context of Yoshi's statement was clear.
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>>378809334
That doesn't say too much for me.
I hope they know what they are doing.
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>>378809553
70.

It's i290 gear and I believe they said the AF3 gear is obtained through job quests rather than tomes.
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>>378809554
as a SCH player, fuck MCH
at least SCH isn't locked to an extremely rote button mashy rotation
BRD is fun
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>>378806416
It's important for lower level dungeons as a PLD/GLD/MRD/WAR because they can't keep threat for shit without a stance.
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>>378809553
Level 70.

Or you can be good goy and purchase 18$ cash shop cloth.
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>>378809625
>It's i290 gear and I believe they said the AF3 gear is obtained through job quests rather than tomes.

Oh thank god.
This was one of the things I hated about HW. All of the iconic class gear for the expansion being locked behind tomestones.

Hopefully that means we'll be able to put them in the armory chest when we're not using them too.
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>>378809553
People are gonna be wearing the XI collab gear for it.
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>>378809492
>don't pull boss
>pick up all the adds
>tank swap and still dish out DPS
>carry shitters
I don't see drks or plds doing that
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>>378809679
Is that what MCH is becoming/staying as? Leaning far more towards BRD then.
>>378809605
Ummmmmmm no sweetie
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>>378809560
Oh lord.
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>>378809805
damn it, i really dislike that thing
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>>378809841
ty shitposter kun
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>>378809373
People won't run AST/AST because you charge limit break more slowly, and SCH is still nowhere near as bad as the alternative WHM.
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>>378809060
>No self heals
wrong, new ability lets you self heal for 800/1000 potency.
>no move to cut blood gauge usage
drk has an infuiate off the darknest knight
>reliant on mp
not an argument
>can't take damage as well as pld
irrelevant, especially for optimal groups.
>edgy big sword to compensate for lack of DPS
except it does as much dps as a WAR.
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>>378809556
Isn't that long ass CD of 2 minutes that lasts 15 seconds where you need to kill the debuffed creature in order to receive some healing and MP regen?
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How fast can I get SAM from 50 > 60 in 4 days.

What way will do it.
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>>378809060
Don't play FF14 anymore but WAR was my main.

WAR is the best fucking class hands down
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>>378809995
PotD like every other dpscucks.
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>>378809837
>tank swap and still dish out DPS
lmao
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>>378809995
POTD/FATES if people are doing FATES.
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>>378809805

That was my plan. Expect with one of those Heavensturn samurai helmets I've had no reason to wear for years.
>>
>At release, Blizzard had a potency of 150. However, due to the lack of Black Mages being used in the Second Coil of Bahamut, Blizzard had its damage potency raised to 170 in Patch 2.3. In addition, the effect of Blizzard's Heavy status was lowered to 12 seconds when used in the Wolves' Den and in Frontline.
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>>378809995

Probably in 4 days if you do

>leveling roulette
>Main Scenario Roulette
>50 Roulette
>Guildhest Roulette
>beast tribe dailies
>challenge log bonuses

Then either spam FATEs (which will be super popular at the beginning) POTD or the highest level dungeon.

Preferably seek up for POTD or the highest level dungeon whilst doing FATEs and beast dailies.
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>>378809917
>he doesn't know
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>>378809995
It takes about 50 POTD 51-60 runs to go from 50 to 60 and each run will be ~12 mins.

You can do it in a day.
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>>378810164
>he's still shitposting
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>>378809917
>wrong, new ability lets you self heal for 800/1000 potency.
That was a fake.
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>>378810190
I havent done much potd though.

I think I got to lv49 and it told me I didn't have a good strength weapon and booted me to Lv1 so didn't give a shit desu
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>>378809995
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>>378810364
better get on that scrub.
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Never did PotD before, is it really that bad or is it just bitched about by people who leveled a million jobs to 60 in it?
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Finally did A1S! I'm totally going to do all the Savage raids before Stormblood!
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WAR might be knocked out of the progression meta
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>>378810531
No you're not
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>>378810524
It's bad.

It's just a zerg kill fest where mobs die in 1-2 hits so casting is pointless.

It gets worse the more you do it.
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>>378809917
You're mostly wrong, fag. And even if darkest knight gives you 50 blood gauge it still is nowhere near as close to inner release potential of DPS.
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>>378810598
> dat drk walk
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>>378810598
drks are really desperate
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>>378810604
:(
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>>378809917
>wrong, new ability lets you self heal for 800/1000 potency.
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>>378810638
Oh that sounds boring as shit. Why wouldn't they make the content challenging instead of just grindy
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I'm shocked. There's so little whining about AST here. Good job gents.
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>>378809690
That's where you're wrong, kiddo.

The only reason why they can't keep threat is because they don't understand how to either tab target or use their fucking AoEs. I've pulled aggro DPSing as a HEALER because the MRD literally had no clue how to hit the overpower button.
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>>378810820
Because the basic idea was content you could do regardless of party set up.
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>>378810598
>drks trying to fight their way out of the cuck shed
Kek
>>
odds = brd
evens = drg
dubs = monk
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>>378810932
>Desperate WAR fag trying to cling to his dim hope that he isn't replaced.
>>
i just got to level 60 for the first time, though im not finished with HW yet so not technically end game

but what i level gear should i be shooting for? i have like i140
>>
Why did yoshi one ilm punch monks and make them useless?
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>>378805517
the word you meant to type is "Piques"
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>>378809802
>Hopefully that means we'll be able to put them in the armory chest when we're not using them too.
I think the devs literally forgot that existed so probably not

Do we know if AF3 will be upgradeable?
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>>378810820
Floors 150-200 are challenging.

But the main purpose of POTD is to be super casual friendly. To give people a fast and easy way to level up.
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>>378810524

It's pretty bad if you're pugging it with a matched party, but it can be comfy ad fuck with some FC mates to try and see how far you can get. Also doing it solo is a neat little self-imposed challenge. It's a few hours of fun at best, but most people just use it to level. Path of least resistance and what not.
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>just want to play NIN
>but I'm on the east coast
I'm still upset

Does SAM need to use double oGCDs?
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Jesus christ the queues are horrendous for the 7th astral era quest dungeons. I was planning on going through HW content before SB but that's impossible. Should have picked tank.
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>>378810932
>>378810963
>tfw pld
>never have to worry about being replaced
>always important
>can do more dps than drk
Feels good
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>>378806416
it's pretty much only meant for dangerous enemies like the wasps in the sunken temple that can 1 shot your tank if you don't kill them fast enough
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>>378811102
Which dungeon?
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>>378810984

You should just play at your own speed and unlock things at your own pace. Or if you don't give a fuck and just want gear for the expac, then unlock Front lines roulette. You can get ilvl 235 PvP gear pretty fast from it, and that will at least gear you up enough to clear the MSQ
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>>378811146
Dont go to far boy. Its not even near ur league. Drk dps god in 4,0. And prob 2x is real.
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>yfw "other content" in odd patches is rebuilding Ala Mhigo
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>>378811193
Snowcloak. Just spent 25 minutes standing around.
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>>378809805
Oh man remember that Vanadiel NPC that stayed in Eorzea?

NO ONE ON THE DEV TEAM DOES OR CARES
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>WARs reeeeeeeeeeing this hard about going to the shed
>literally spouting muh cleaves as their main defense
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>>378811362
>its just going to be 1.0 hamlets
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>>378811294
Ive never done frontlines
do i have to win to get that gear? or being a shitter is fine
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>>378810998
preorder stormblood and you can get an early start on levelling SAM into your monk gear, gaijin

and buy a fantasia
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>>378811585
>some people liked 1.0 hamlets
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>tfw drk with a pld friend
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>>378811632
Being a shitter is fine. Just don't AFK or you'll be kicked.
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>>378811632
you get marks just for playing so no. You do have to get wins to get the mounts though
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>>378811643
No, level WAR first.
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>tfw WHM main
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>>378811406
So what.
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>>378811632

You get 1000 marks for doing the Duty Roulette once a day win or lose. WinnING gives you an extra 1000, 2nd place is 750, and 3rd is 500. So no matter what you're earning at least 1500 a day, more if you care to spam it. The most expensive PvP gear is like 4000, so it's not too bad.
>>
Are Melee DPS classes more powerful then ranged dps classes? And how hard is ninja to play?
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>>378811768
at least your damage didnt get shafted
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>>378811815
They arent right now, ranged is king
Ninja is currently the most difficult melee
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I really didn't want to but I'm hopping aboard the SAMtrain. Just watching a vid of its gameplay and it just looks so crisp. The big dick damage doesn't dissuade either.
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>>378806519
It's because you're in a XIV general on /v/. Go to any other game general here and you'll also see people NOT shit talking whatever game they're talking about in that general.
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>>378811853
>SCHfags crying about nerfs after spending four years as undisputed king of everything

I hope they nerf you more
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>>378811362
Make
Ala
Mhigo
Great
Again

MAMGA
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>>378812171
I was an AST, but ok. Same argument there I guess
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>>378812242
>ASTfag crying after being buffed into absurdity

That's even worse holy fuck
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>>378804970
>was literally yelling at the screen for the fucker to use ogcds between combos because he has so fucking many.
WHY IGN
>>
Is there a way to have only my skills have floating damage numbers? I don't care about seeing other people's ability numbers
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>>378812351
but muh damage
>>
do you still have to level a second class to 15 to unlock a job in stormblood?
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>>378811947
>Ninja is currently the most difficult melee
Look at that gap between the average nin and the best nin, nin can be the strongest melee if played right but most people can't play them that way
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>>378812383
>vidleyo game """"""reviewers"""""
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>>378809805
Wait when was this given out?

Can we still get it?
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>>378812465
no
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>>378812584
thank the gods
>>
>healing DS to get back into the groove of healing
>literally only me, the other healer, and tank don't die on each fight
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>>378812467
It is because NIN job not only requires you to know what you are doing like the rest of jobs but also needs a very good connection to play optimally.
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>>378812467
More like gap between the average nin and the most padded nin.
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>>378812584
Yes you do, you just don't have to level for cross class skills. SAM and RDM won't have subjobs to level though.
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>>378811768
Just whine super fucking hard for the next 4 months and for the WHM overhaul in 4.1.
It worked for WAR.
Even the JP are up in arms over this shit.
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>>378812665
>99th percentile NIN
>on the east coast
Do I go DRG or SAM
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>>378812579
Haha, of course you can still get it.Give the japanese jew your money
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>>378812531
>mfw they spam the AoE on the boss instead of using the vast amount of bar responsibly
>mfw >Gyouten - Yaten - delayed Enbu instead of Yaten - Enbu - Gyouten

The class isn't even out yet and I'm mad about people who can't play it.
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>>378812665
>remember ninja on release
>t3 network made me have to download WTFast just to play the fucking class
Those were the days.
>>
>>378812729
Can't wait for WHM to get overbuffed to hell and then for WHMs to spend the next four years trying to justify it by citing that few months they were shit that one time
>>
>>378812764
Either Or, Both seem like legitimate fun if you're looking to go Melee.
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>>378812714
No, Yoshida confirmed that requirement was removed
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>>378812467
Yeah, thats what I said
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>>378804970
>aggro list has cast bars
oh baby, hopefully it'll show if you're losing aggro now, too
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>>378812351
>BAW AST BAWWWWW BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWW
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>>378812729
>Even the JP are up in arms over this shit.
Source
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>>378804970
>playing as pld

Into le trash
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>>378812834
>it's a kaiten - meikyo shisui - faceroll 3 sen buttons - midare episode
can't wait
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>>378812764
If you can't doubleweave without clipping now, yeah pick something else less demanding on connection
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>max lvl WAR and PLD

I have ascended the tank wars.
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Can Bosses get Direct Critical Hits as well?
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>>378812171
>I hope they nerf you more
Not before they delete Aero II because you have Aero III. Oh, and Assize gets a healing potency buff but loses its damage
Then maybe they'll nerf Shadow Flare again
Please look forward to it
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>>378812729
WAR whining at launch was at least justified because they were fundamentally broken as a job.
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>>378813078
Ohh boy I hope so. I hope everything hits hard as fuck in this expac with how they gave all the healers more healing potency
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>>378813042
I thought they just got buffed
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>>378813069
You're forgetting a tank there champ.
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>>378813294
They did, them and AST got massive buffs
>>
Just finished ARR story. Is this the FF with the best story? That end was pure kino.
>>
>>378813201
you'll be the first to die when your healslut healers can't keep up
or if you're a healer enjoy the very engaging act of turboing the heal button
>>
I just started leveleing conjurer, have I fucked up?
>>
>>378813480
Nah, you'll be fine. You're almost as good as the scholar now
>>
>>378809060
>PLD
>>look like fags
now you cut that shit out
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>>378813314
eh. There are enough DRKs anyway. PLD is looking strong as fuck, with WAR being a potential underdog.
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>>378813130
>he's still going
I don't even play a healer, I just get great amusement watching people who've played the best healing job in the game since its inception whine about not being god kings of every aspect of the game anymore>>378813147
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>>378813294
They did, that anon is lashing out in fear of the coming day of the shed
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>>378813041
Maybe I'm mistaken or maybe it got deleted as I can't find it now but I could've sworn there was like a 10 page thread on the JP OF full of complaints since yesterday.
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>>378813565
>WAR being a potential underdog.
Are you okay Anon? Warrior post 2.1 has been amazing.
>>
>>378813339
Best recent story maybe but not the best overall
>>
Do we have a cactaur FC?
>>
>>378813592
I'm just saying theres not much else to nerf for SCH
Theyve been nerfed as much as possible sans deleting the job
Fucking WHM does more damage now
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>>378807256
>What this tells me is that in a WHM v SCH pick for second healer, theres no good reason to not pick SCH
Especially when on top of all that, SCH buff up the party DPS now too.
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>>378809060
>DRK
>cant take damage as well as PLD

I know there are people that really believe this but wow is it delusional to think any tank is weaker than the other in terms of mitigation now that every tank is practically equalized in defense.
>>
>>378813790
I'm also on Cactaur and we don't have a /v/ fc
TFT is /a/ but I wouldn't join them
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>>378813828
Yeah, that was the point of my post. WHM and SCH dps is practically equal, so SCH bringing battle litany pushes them over the top
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>>378811853
Not him, but it totally did.

WHM is now almost completely worthless as a healer because its burst damage hasn't been given any kind of upgrade, it still has MP issues, and its healing is based on RNG.
What kind of healer has to be based at the mercy of RNG?
>>
>>378813707
potential underdog with this xpac.

The doomsaying is pretty bad, so it'd be a surprise if WARs maintain extremely strong status
>>
>pld went from a 1 combo class to 3 combos and casting, plus all it's weird utility skills might actually be useful now
what happened here?
>>
>>378813896
>What kind of healer has to be based at the mercy of RNG?
Anon...
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>>378813909
But they're getting stronger this expansion. I don't think you know anything about tanks in XIV.
>>
So how are Monks looking going into this expansion?
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>>378813790
I didn't think any of you were in cactuar
No FC that I know of.
>>
>>378813480
No, in fact if you want a healing class; the two of the three healers require conjurer to be at least level 15 or 30.

>>378813985
That is not the same. There is some level of skill involved to pick the right cards.
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>fucking up this badly on WHM

All they had to do was make lilies increase the potency of off gcds and make the accumulation based on every gcd used, not just cure 1 and 2 lol
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>>378813976
>DRK went from 3 combos to 2 combos, where you only spam one when not main tanking
What went wrong?
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>>378804970
It might change, but it looks like the mobs in those lvling dungeons won't hit so fucking hard like the HW ones. I'm 270 gear, pop my cds, and those mobs in the HW lvling dungeons still hit like a fucking truck. It isn't even fun, plus most of them are damage sponges when dps aren't geared. That and I'm probably just bad also.
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>>378813909
WARbabbies see not being head and shoulders above the other tanks as a disaster. The fact that it may no longer hold a monopoly on the OT role terrifies them to their core.
>>
Is Mech easy to play?
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>>378813992
outclassed in the damage department by sam, drg and nin are still pretty much the same as they were before if not stronger
it's bad, famalam
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Anyone here play on Leviathan too?
Is it just me or lately we get a queue time when you want to enter?
I mean, I know you can pass by the queue, but this almost never happened outside of huge event.

Don't tell me that since Gilgamesh and Balmung are closed people are coming to floor Leviathan (the third biggest one) ?
>>
>>378813992
Not very good.
I'm very much tempted into switch to SAM come SB.
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>>378813989
anon I have a secret, I have it on good authority.

The other tanks are also getting stronger
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>>378813992
Irrelevant
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>>378814179
>The other tanks are also getting stronger
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK YOSHI
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>>378814128
I play on Leviathan.
Leviathan is the biggest open server on Primal at the moment. So queue times are to be expected.

Also yes, that's exactly what is happening. It will get worse when SB hits, they may have to close Leviathan, even.
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>>378814128
>Don't tell me that since Gilgamesh and Balmung are closed people are coming to floor Leviathan (the third biggest one) ?
That's exactly what's happening
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>>378814074
Yoshi discovered that most kirito tanks are DRK players.
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>>378814074
PLD fags cried enough until getting boosted into relevancy like WAR fags did in 2.0.
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>>378814128
been noticing this too.

It's never been a very large queue, usually like 10-20 people. But Stormblood queues are going to be fucking disgusting if we're waiting and the xpac isn't coming out for another 2 weeks.
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>>378814282
>>378814340
I DON'T WANT THIS
>>
Leviathan here, we entering super sekrit klub status?
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>>378810880
>Sastasha
>A tank/healer pair who yells at you to stop dotting all the enemies in a pull

I don't understand
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>>378814128
I've been getting them all week on Cactuar as well
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>>378814128
At least you are getting Gilga rejects instead of Balmung rejects.
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>>378814179
Pre-release media has indicated that DRK is in an iffy spot with lower damage than WAR for OT and not as good of mitigation as PLD. Did something change recently to change peoples opinions on this? Do the 6~ fellcleaves equate less than 3 pre-4.0?
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>>378814065
That and making Divine Benis shield potency scale off number of Lilies, Confessions permanents with some small buff to the party member they're on and cranking up the proc rate would be fine.
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Paladin is still going to be a bore and a chore to play in 3 out of 5 of your roulettes.

In fact, a lot of the classes look like they aren't going to be terribly fun in 1-60 content anymore.
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>>378812905
WHM has been suboptimal since launch though.
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>BLM Lv58 Job Quest

Who designs this garbage?
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>>378814450
if by that, do you mean we pretend not to be fucking huge and have the idea that being on our server is some kinda status symbol?

Then yeah, probably.
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>>378814528
>>378812905
This.
I think anyone expecting WHM to get overbuffed are fooling themselves. Yoshi insists that WHM is a pure healing class in a game that has no pure healers. So the chances of WHM getting overbuffed and not just getting more healing abilities that they don't need is slim.
WHM will get another shield or maybe Stoneskin back.
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>>378813565
>WAR
>underdog
I want this meme to end
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>>378814568
>blm 30-50
>bring together a secret society of beastmen in order to stop the summoning of a demon by a rogue member of your order
>blm 50-60
>babysit a catboy
it's bad
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>>378814568
Sleep nigger, do you use it?
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>>378814568

The 50 - 60 BLM job quests were so fucking boring I barely remember what happened. I swear they forgot to implement them 1 day before launch and just vomited that in a hurry.
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Why is everyone already trying to estabilish who belongs to the meta and who is doomed on release without even knowing how encounters are being designed in the expansion?

For all we know bosses will have survival phases where DPS is useless, actually require CC for mechanics that are impossible to skip with high DPS and their auto-attacks will hit like Diabolos Hollow on steroids
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>>378814768
>>378814852
Aside from the shit NPC I'm talking about

>2 BLM
>3 Planar Rifts spawning Voidsent every minute
>Voidsent spamming aoes so you can barely cast

I figured best strat was get rid of the mages then just run around and spam Scathe
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>>378814879
>without even knowing how encounters are being designed in the expansion?
They're gonna follow 2.0 release schedule again probably just like with 3.0
>For all we know bosses will have survival phases where DPS is useless
>implying yoshi would make fun mechanics and not dps races
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>>378814508
No, it's just DRK fags trying to find something to shit post about and stay relevant. At this point in time, Warrior is leading DPS with Dark knight closely following. PLD got buffed to shit, tho. We'll see how numbers play out when we get fully geared tanks.
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>>378814879
spotted le ledditcuck
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>>378814752
Its grim reality for you, cuck. DRK is the new god of this game.
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>>378814985
Or use sleep.
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>>378812219
ironically it was probably better than it ever was under garlean rule. they had no real industry and were mad af about it, that's why they started a war.
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>>378814879
>bosses will have survival phases where DPS is useless, actually require CC for mechanics that are impossible to skip with high DPS and their auto-attacks will hit like Diabolos Hollow on steroids
Hahahaha
Nice one
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>>378815062
Who even remembers Sleep exists if you don't PvP
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>>378813201
As a healer this is all I want, actual worry about healing off auto attacks instead of letting regen/fairy do it until the tank buster
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>>378814879
This. Pointless to argue about anything until we actually have the game.

t.monk
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>>378814879
because you can rule out needing something truly specific because content is designed around all team comps, so it all just comes down to what will kill the boss the fastest because thats the only factor that makes the biggest impact.

but its mostly shitposting
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>>378815167
MNK's are fucking done until they buff them in 4.1
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>>378814527
At least boost potion users won't be queueing for Sastasha anymore :^)
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>>378814879
Denial isn't just a river in egypt, anon.
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>>378815039
Talk to us when you can pull big dick dps numbers. Which will never happen.
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>>378814508
>>378815010
It's based off of the jp tooltip for sole survivor supposedly giving a version of trick attack even though the tooltip in english makes no mention of it and all of the prerelease info with DRKs in the dungeon never had it up. It's just wishful thinking on DRK players' part that they are the new meta now.
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>>378814390
This. If you want a class to be good, just cry.
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>>378815010
> more dpees
> higher potency skills
> BN shits on every war def
> still got dm and ld
> no mp drain from ds and 20%
> SS buff
Cuckshed is wating for you sweetheart.
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>>378815167
Who let you out of the shed
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>>378813042
Warrior cuck detected.
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Samurai's visuals look so boring
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>Monk gets ZERO new attacks
>only 1 dungeon per patch now
I'm out. Not playing this till 4.2 or 4.3 and it will be to go through the MSQ and normal raids only
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>>378815330
Because they have huge fucking numbers to make up
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>>378815330
At least they're not as bad as DRKs
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>>378815330
Sorry it doesn't shit fireworks with every slash.

Maybe Red mage might be more to your speed?
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>>378815241
Anon, let me hang on to hope. I've been a monk since 1.0. I believe that Yoshi has a plan for all of us.
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>people on other sites telling WHM not to get pissed off over the Lily mechanic
No, fuck off. The entire mechanic is worse than a single Spear card from AST, and is the only job's meter/mechanic that could cease to exist entirely and people wouldn't notice. The numbers arent the issue either. its the design is bad.
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>there are people who don't want to go to the shed to hang out with all those cute thirsty whms and mnks gagging for group play
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>>378815352
>only 1 dungeon per patch now
Wait what really?
I haven't been paying attention, my static always joked about SE bumping it down to 1

That's fucking hilarious
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>Been leveling MNK in preparation for SB because it fits so well thematically and I enjoy it
>Read all the changes reported in english yesterday
>Find out most of them have wrong numbers or are poor translations
>Haha surely they wouldn't nerf it that bad
>Check the JP notes
>Almost every ability had its potency nerfed and there's nearly nothing to compensate for it
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>>378815412
*tips katana*
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>>378815352
honestly who the fuck plays these games for the dungeons?
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>>378815352
>only 1 dungeon per patch now

2 dungeons in 4.0, 4.2, 4.4
Though if you say only 1 new dungen per patch, that's probably right as one of the two dungeons in the even numbers will probably be (Hard Mode)
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oh great we are hitting bring the class not the player mentality in FF. time to unsub.
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>>378815494
No.
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>>378815506
Who plays this game for anything?

Dungeons are the main content you need to spam for weekly tomes.
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>>378815506
Well there isn't a whole lot to play for since we get 4 raid bosses every 8 months
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>>378815286
Why do tanks worry about dps? Your job is to hold adds. If you wanna brag about numbers play an actual damage dealer.
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>>378815460
I'M NOT THIRSTY
I CAN FIND A PARTY WHENEVER I WANT
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>>378815494
Source? That can't be real
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>>378815617
t. catslut healer who refuses to DPS

DPS is DPS, it doesn't matter who it comes from, it's important and relevant no matter who's doing it
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>>378814879
because no number of encounters can make 4% cooldown on an oGCD heal change anything. Theres memeing about WAR and SMN being kind of meh on paper, and then theres just bad design, like giving the best shields, regen, utility, and burst healing to AST while the other 2 healers get to rot.
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>>378815494
No retard, it goes patch with 2 dungeons, patch with 1 dungeon and other content, repeat, there are going to be more dungeons than HW at this rate
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>>378815617
>Why do tanks worry about dps?
Because when there's only 2 slots for tanks in raids and 3 tanks you take the one that hits the hardest and the one that mitigates the most.
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>>378815617
because the tank that does the most damage is the most wanted.
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>>378815585
except you know...wondrous tails, or pvp, or normal raids or aquapolis and various other things. My friend hasn't set foot in expert since 3.4 and hes capped every week.
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>>378815613
Not much point having more bosses when 95% of players can't even beat them without help.
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Where the fuck did every testers get this idea "What if we use Kaiten on any skills BUT Midare"?
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>>378815525
Can you link me to that? I don't remember seeing that anywhere
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>>378814108
There is no mech job. There is a machinist job though.
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>Warriors getting wet over doing multiple FC's, bring nothing else to the party.
>Meanwhile.....
>PLDS GET OVERHAULED & BUFFED TO HELL & BACK. DRKS GET NEW ABILITIES, HAVE TRICK ATTACK PVE INSTEAD OF PVP, AN AWESOME STONESKIN THAT GIVES BACK TONS OF BLOOD. BOTH ROLES OTHER AMAZING UTILITY.
>B-B-BUT MUH FC'S! WAR IS SUPPOSE TO BE THE BEST! WHY YOU DO THIS YOSHIDA?!?!

GET SMOKED WARRIORS.
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>>378815781
Is Machinist easy to play?
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>>378815693
So 1.5 in favor of lords of verminion and such
Great, good job SE
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Where can I get a look at all the AF3s?
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>>378815286
>drk
>more dps than war
laughingwhores.jpg
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>>378815772
http://www.mmorpg.com/final-fantasy-xiv/previews/stormblood-preview-dungeons-new-jobs-and-the-underwater-world-1000011766
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>>378814282
I remember when Heavensward came out on Levi. All those fucking zones closed off and segregated and that first queue was abysmal.
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>>378815280
>The japanese, the dev's native language, tooltip mentioned it
>The english, which has been shown to be shoddy as fuck in the press build, didn't
>It's "wishful thinking"

delusional warcuck detected.
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>people are already talking about just kicking whms and mnks on sight in dungeons
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>>378815836
http://ff14net.2chblog.jp/archives/51343234.html
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>Do 8v8 Feast
>On an all DPS team against one with 2 healers
>We actually win because we actually coordinate our attacks and the ones who pick up the medals aren't retarded enough get themselves killed throwing themselves at the enemies
I know 8v8 Feast is just a casual shitpool but there are some legit shitters in here
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>>378815826
It is RNG based and you need to know the rotation well enough to do well.

But that is also changing slightly in Stormblood so who knows how easy it will be.
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Well, my sub just ended. Only going to log in for Stormblood now. I have 1.5 million MGP saved up for the new saucer mount(s) but i have a feeling that SE will make one of them cost 2 million just to one-up fenrir
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>>378815687
>>378815709
>>378815725
Okay, and why is that relevant? Your job is tanking. If you have to make up for another DPS in your raid then there's other issues that need to be resolved. This whole soul eater and fell cleave meme is old. Tanks will always have shit dps. Do your assigned job correctly, which is mitigating damage and holding aggro.
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>>378815939
They won't do it.
99% of parties are either joined from the finder, which doesn't give them a choice; or from guilds, who wouldn't kick their own members anyway.

It's just more "Buh huh huh, I'm a strong tank still in control of my party I hold all the cards please don't condemn me to 8-hour queue times because I refuse to party with a WHM :^("
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>tfw I was defending DRK when people thought it would be cucked
>now they're all being vocal monkeys spewing the word cuck all over the place because DRK is looking good

fuck you niggers, I hope you all end up maining SAM.
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>>378815140
>I'm proud of being a shitter who doesn't understand my own class
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>>378816019
you can do both if you aren't shit, and if you can do both why wouldn't you?
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>>378816019
And that shit is dirt easy to do, if you can't maximise your DPS ontop of that you're garbage.
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>>378816019
>Your job is tanking
Yes, and a raid has a slot for 2 tanks. You dont have 2 people tanking the boss dipshit.
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>>378816019
lol git gud
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>>378816086
When Soul Survivor is shown to have typo'd in the Jap tooltip, I'm going to have a field day
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>>378816059
Also kicking people for that kind of reason is asking for a ban. Isn't there also an initial period where you can't kick at all?
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>>378816157
Except they're removing most actions from PVP so I doubt it's a typo.
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>>378816092
Once I hit 60 I'm not touching BLM until 4.5
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>>378816184
15 minutes I think
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>>378814527
Im more excited about Total Eclipse than Holy. That alone makes me feel less shitty about taking it to 50, 60, 70, EX, and hopefully leveling roulettes.
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>>378816157
Me too. I want PLDs and WARs to fucking rejoice and put those niggers in their damned place. DRK mains have never looked as bad as they have after today.
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>>378815939

Who gives a shit about what people play, as long as they play competently it doesn't matter what class they are, I'd rather have any class played competently than someone who plays terribly.
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>>378816157

Yeah anon, the JP tooltip may be mistranslated from the dev's native la-

Oh wait, you're a fucking idiot.
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>>378816184
5 Minutes for kick, 15 minutes for Abandon.
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>>378814527
When was Paladin ever fun?
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Scholar is literally the master race:

>Fairy cutey does literally all of their work
>Fairy cutey does lewd size-disparity things with them, whenever they want
>F Airy cutey cooks their meals and cleans their house
>Always reading cool books while you're nocking arrows and stabbing things like a simpleton
>Fucks your bitch, mid-dungeon, mid-pull, while you toil in obscurity trying to max your DPS
>Has applicable life skills outside of killing shit, will be able to retire in peace
>Invests in the stock market and real estate and shit while you grind for goat milk or whatever
>Actually gets things done while you try to murder things needlessly
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>>378815858
Thanks, anon. That's kind of a bummer. Hopefully they'll add something worthwhile to make up for that
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>>378816242
15 minutes is disband timer.

5 minutes for dismissal.
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Why did WARs get so cucked compared to PLD and DRKs?


They literally offer nothing to the party compared to the other tanks.
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>>378816219
JP version does still have typos. For example the fester tooltip in jp is still wrong in that it is doing 300 potency in the field (as shown in various gameplay videos). The error was in both the english and jp tooltip.
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>>378816294
He said typo, not mistranslation. Idiot.
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>>378816247

PLD main here, I want WAR out of MY meta. They're fucking garbage now and they rely on the rest of the team to baby them for decent mitigation. I don't care what DRK gets so long as it fucks over the WAR mains.
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>>378816086
We are not compensating small dick with
> muh fell cleave
So take your sit at the cuckshed. Pal got spot for you.
>>378816019
This game is about dps. Dont like it. dont play it. And dont try saying smth abouth thing you dont even understand.
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>>378816330
1.0?
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>wars being completely unsubtle trying to turn drks and plds against each other
>keep saying me and my pld friends this and plds that
>being this afraid of change
Day of the shed is coming
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>>378814527
I dislike that theyre nerfing SMN and BLM for all levels below 70.
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>drks thinking they will ever be relevant
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>>378816094
Wrong. tanks always fuck themselves over and make it harder for healers. I was happy as fuck when str accessories got locked out for tanks
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>>378816385

A stray number is a "typo." An entire fucking additional effect most certainly isn't.
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>>378816019
Are you that guy that leveled DRK fulltiming Grit and never using Darkside because Darkside is for DPS and you're a tank?
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>>378816378
wow its almost just like pld for the entirety of HW
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>>378816381
People don't appear to realize that a lot of game text isn't proofread or polished when it's still in the hands of the math nerds, as the skills clearly are.
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>>378812467
>95th percentile fflogs
fuck off, all it is is balance padding
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>>378816487
>doing level 60 dungeons post sb

I don't even want to think about it
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>>378816348
squeezing your dick into a fairy is not an applicable life skill
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>>378816517
shit healer detected. If you aren't DPSing as a healer either than you have literally no excuse.
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>>378816632
And? Every other max was catered as well and nin is still ahead of the other melees
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>>378816758
hot though
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>>378816758
Scholars get tiny foot-jobs and pole dances on their dick.
>>
all this shilling makes me want to play this themepark
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>>378816971
>try out trial
>end up hating it
>don't waste money
Easy.
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>>378816971
Trial is free and unlimited so why not
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>>378816971
There's a free trial.

Dunno if it would be better or worse to play it now or wait until 4.0 though.
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>alll the talk of WARs or DRKs getting the cuckshed
>PLD somehow is the one not being tossed around as being there

These are crazy times
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Remember to get one of these shirts for your statics former war ot
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>nin poison back to 20% all damage up
>can't use raiton with new servers
feels bad
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I can't wait for 4.0 BRDs that still don't ever sing.
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What's Requiescat maximum potency?
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>>378816971
You have to play until Heavensward if you do.
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Which class/job has best questline?
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Man I've never seen shitposting go this fast.

The only two classes I've seen to reserve judgement until SB is monk and white mage since they seem really fucked on the paper. The rest seem fine and just need actual real fights and parsing to min max composition.
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>>378817224
Treefiddy

No really, it actually is 350
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>>378817223
I mean you kind of have to now
>Don't get River of Blood procs without singing

I hate it. I want cast times back over this shit.
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>>378817240
monk 0-30
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>>378817093
Its because they're in a special situation where they can get any job done as MT, but also be a diamond class OT with skills focused on mitigating the entire party and the MT with every tankbuster. Plus two huge damage cooldowns.
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>>378817093
What you see is wars trying to focus on just one of the other tanks and try to get plds on their side in a desperate attempt to avoid the shed
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>>378817308
But it said potency increases if remaining MP is high.
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>the guy with the shield and sword and wants to protect his allies is the best off-tank
>the guy with the DARKNESS and edge and two-handed sword is the best main tank

how does this even make sense
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>>378817240
Overall quality of all quests of one job? ROG/NIN.
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>>378817240
DRK 30-50
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>>378817326
You kind of have to cycle between Astral Fire and Umbral Ice too but that's never stopped any Blizzard Wizards or any of the other DF MVPs out there.
>>
How does early access work? Are retailers giving out codes with pre-orders?
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>>378817223
it's going to be cool and good to hear "singing lowers my dps" until 5.0 because most bards have brain problems
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>>378817412
Dork knight makes sense.
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>>378817406
No, it said its potency DECREASES if your MP is low. The draw of the skill is the damage up buff it grants if you do it when over 80 percent MP.
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>>378817240
Rog-nin
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>>378817240
Popular opinions would be:
>Classes
PGL, ROG
>Jobs 30-50
DRK, BLM, BRD, SCH
>Jobs 51-60
SMN, PLD, SCH, DRG
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Does the fairy still autoheal
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>>378817406
I think it works just like Spirits Within.
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>>378817463
Is the sky blue?
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>>378817458
I've never actually come across one before. Maybe I'm just lucky.
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>>378817223
>>378817497
>Refresh and Tactician are now literally free
>they'll still never use them
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>>378804970
*slashes Z into your chest* EL MAGICIANS REDDO
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>>378817630
>PLD 50-60
>good

Are you fucking high? That's a contender for worst in the game.
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>>378817412
The entire PLD questline was about getting a sword to gain power while DRK became about using his power to enact justice, protect damsels, and utilize the power of love.
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i like being a lancer
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>>378817713
Worst was WHM 2bh
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>>378817674
You dont understand man I NEED to have a silence, stun, snare and swiftsong which ill forget.
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>>378817723
I thought the PLD 50-60 questline was about how all the Paladin NPCs are brain damaged.
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>>378817412
DRK definitely wants to be OT and PLD definitely wants to be MT in Stormblood
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>>378804970
Red Mage gameplay when?
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>>378817772
You know the level 70 WHM quest will be you cleansing the taint from a cherry blossom tree outside Doma that has seen too much bloodshed.
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>>378817820
>when multiple paladins of worth come together they have to beat the shit out of each other to establish dominance
I was blown away by how mind-boggingly stupid the whole quest chain was.
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>>378817723
These moogles walk up and kidnap your loli, what do you do
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>Go into dungeon
>Tank RP walks the whole time even in battle
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>>378817963
Plus it was pretty obvious that the guy wasn't even dead.

>Have to sit there and believe that a badass experienced paladin would be taken out by a bunch of literal who assassins
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>>378817750
>We'll never get a throwback questline where we get more moves related to our Class rather than Jobs

Damnit, I want some Gladiator themed moves
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>>378813985
>There are literal fucking retards who would compare to random useful buffs to required heals
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>WAR players still crying

cmon guys, just shake it off :^)
>>
Been leveling my WAR and love the class to death but wanted to try something else out and picked up DRK.

Played enough POTD to get Dark Arts, immediately dropped that shit. Seemed fucking annoying as shit already to manage mana but now I have to manage some shitty oGCD mini buff that only affects the next skill I use? No fucking thank you. Seemed tedious to manage.

I might give it another try but just seems annoying. Any DRK mains out there? Is Dark Arts really annoying as it seemed at first?
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>No cast times
>wildfire only 60s cd
>overheat gives us 20% damage buff
>the animations for heated slug split and clean look great

Yoshi sure knows how to treat a job he cucked for almost all of HW
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>>378818069
And you mean how the first fucking quest zooms in on mysterious Roe in a cloak watching you?
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>>378805452
You keep breeding them until you get 20 stars.
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>>378817631
Yeah, they only bumped the potency down 16%
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>>378818113
>Braindead WAR cuck detected.
Someone post the image of a WAR in the toddler toy set.
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>>378818154
That too
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>>378817963
>drk uses the power of love to keep from succumbing to their dark side
>war uses the power of friendship to inspire each other to control their inner beasts
>paladins fight each other over a sword or some bullshit
worst tanks
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>>378817997
do moogles have dicks
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>>378817859
I feel disgusted.
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>>378818113

It seems daunting but you pick up fast, especially if you get good at turning grit off for blood weapon to maximize your mp intake.
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>>378818148
>machinist
>cucked
>top 3 dps easily and #1 DPS for deleting people in pvp
U wot m8?
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>>378817853
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WctPkumkxI&t=2s
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>>378808135
World first of pretty much all of Alexander except for A12S had a BLM. And A12S had a SMN on world first.

In 3.2 MCH was overbuffed. But then why bring BRD? Then BRD got buffed in 3.3 to compensate for that. The double ranged thing only really became a thing after BOTH BRD and MCH were overbuffed from shitters complaining.

Even then, for gear purposes (and statics traditionally had a caster), most people brought casters to Creator initially, despite them being suboptimal. It wasn't until speedkills that people were understandably bringing the most optimal composition available.
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>>378817859
The level 70 WHM quest will be Raya-O handing you a star globe.
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>>378818532
>Level 70 WAR quest literally involves going into a shed
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>>378818313
>most of HW

Mch didn't become op until 3.3

Learn to read you fucking faggot
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>>378818695
>still can't decide if this is the assravaged PLD who wants WARs to fail or just the average DRK poster with a vendetta against the WAR that took his raid spot
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>>378817630
the lala marauder in the SCH questline was a fag
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>tfw monk gets ZERO new combat abilities
Come on yoship, if you hate it so much just remove it so I can move on
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>>378817412
To be fair lore wise, DRKs are all about justice and shit. And I feel like PLDs are depressed with all the corrupt shit going on.
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>>378818313
>he doesn't know that ammo used to be a buff that timed out if it wasn't used
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>>378818739
3.2 which was 8~ months after release.
Certainly not most of HW, and was still decent pre buff.
Learn to play faggot.
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>>378818875
The buffs were in 3.3 you fucking nigger
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>>378818778
Neither.
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>>378818842
You hit quick reload every 15seconds to keep your ammo in between phases and let it drop outside of fights. Hardly "cucked"
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>>378804970
Holy fuck this guy is a terrible player.
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4.0 will be the first time I'll main a healer instead of a DPS. Hopefully everything will be alright
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>>378819029
Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger Nigger
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>>378819010
3.2 you underaged shitter
Google patch 3.2, 3.3 was only the cosmetic removal of gauss barrel.
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>>378819043
as if you're any better

fuck outta here you clown
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>>378815132
A8S intermissions were pretty much survival phases. If you got hit by anything avoidable, you were instakilled and gave the boss a stack, making it much harder to survive J Kick/Storm. 2 stacks and you were just not surviving it, period.
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>>378815630
Apologize by getting on your knees.
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I'm still not understanding why PLD has a guaranteed spot. If they do less damage and don't give dmg buffs to the party won't they be shit for speed clears?
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>>378816428
This to be frank.
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>>378819130
No it was 3.3 you underage fuck factory
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Calm Daughter
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>>378819319
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/91f0b0d1b9095d3bf80fce2b1086724f734d57c0
I know you probably can't wear glasses with your helmet obstructing your ears but maybe if you get really close to your monitor you'll see there's nothing here.
And stop trying so hard, you're not fitting in by acting like you're mentally challenged.
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>>378819407
What?
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>>378819242
They donts. Its just hype for now. We need parces.
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>>378819242
If WAR ends up shitting out damage like their advertised to be, then I think the best speed comp will be DRK/WAR. it really depends on how useful the extra defensive options provided by PLD carries over for speed kills.
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>>378816536
>tfw I used to play like this

Admittedly I still don't know how to fully utilize DS and manage mp but I'll save tanking for SB
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