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Switch online being revealed

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https://mobile.twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/870444987380416512
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Online classics? Neato
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>>378804635
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20$ is reasonable enough, even if I'd rather just not pay for anything. Wonder why it got delayed to 2018 though.
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>>378804635
Paying for online honestly sucks major dick but servers cost money I guess. The price is a huge relief
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>>378804635
>basketball american in the upper left
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Wait. $20 for online and basically "free" online enabled VC titles? That's not too bad I guess.
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>>378804879
>Enjoy free until 2018
Wait, what? Wasn't suppose to start next month?
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Delayed until 2018
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>>378804879
Well, guess it's better than $59.99 for a year
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>>378804635
so did they change the "free" VC games from a single game to a handful? that's alright i guess, though i doubt you can keep them
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>>378805038
No, is shit
But is less shit that Xbox and PS
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>a library of classic games you can take anywhere

So it's not gonna be strictly a streaming service at least.

Here's hoping we don't have to wait until 2018 for VC to hit.
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>>378805068
It was supposed to start Fall, but I guess they delayed it. Good news for us!
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According to the official page, you also get the phone app for free this year, it's nkt delayed.
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>>378805150
Yeah I heard you can keep them until they released a new batch of classic games which I think is a monthly thing
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>After the free-trial period, most games will require a paid online service subscription from Nintendo in order to play online.
>most
>not all
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>You can buy games from the online store
WHAT A GREAT FEATURE
THANKS NINTENDO
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>>378804879
that's actually quite reasonable
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>>378805508
What? No, they are saying you get those games with the subscription.
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>>378805379
Neat
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>>378805468
Except the F2P ones. :^)
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>>378805508
>complaining about the fact they mention something mandatory to reassure retards they can use online to access the store

and another retard like you to add to the bunch
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>>378804802
They said that since the begining but nobody wanted to hear it. I think it's fucking amazing.
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>>378805508
you're a moron
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>>378805680
Netplay was a thing for, what, a decade now? Maybe more?
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>>378804879
I'm still completely against paid online, but 20 dollars is a hell of a lot better than the 50 dollars I pay to play GG online as if Arcsys doesn't jew me enough as is.
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>>378805590

>paying to use your own internet
>reasonable

???
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>>378804879
>$20/yr
>online is free until 2018
Nice.
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>>378804635
>need to pay 20$ to be allowed to buy games on the e-shop
LOL
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>>378805828
Better than $60/yr
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>>378805765
Yes and it works like fucking shit and most of the time it sets you with the CPU without even telling you, I have played matches of SFII with a friend and at the end of the match we both thought we won.

Having official online support for old games is amazing.
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>>378804635
>Online is officially $20 a year
>Free trial period got moved to early 2018, giving us more time to save money for it
>You now get several games for membership instead of one
Whoever says that Nintendo never listens to their fans is wrong
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>>378805828
You're paying for a service, fagbasket.
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>>378804635
a reasonable price, you can't trash nintendo for this one
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>>378805068
probably going to let christmas be free
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>>378804879
I expected $30/year.
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>>378805932
>being this retarded
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>>378806001
The only thing they need to fix is that you should keep those games, but considering the service costs a third than the others they probably can't do that. They should offer those same games with a huge discount each month though.
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>>378806058
>paying to use your own internet
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>>378806012

What service? Almost every single console game is just p2p. What service are you paying for?
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>>378805932
are you legally retarded by chance
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>10 USD a month "ROBBERY!"
>6 USD a month "not so bad..."
>4 USD a month "God bless you Nintendo!"
Consoletards are cancer.
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>"Revealing" online play

What is this 2004?
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>>378804802
Wait, where does it say that you can play VC online? The OP pic doesn't mention that for old games, just that you can take them with you on portable mode.
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>>378806129
>Almost every single console game is just p2p. What service are you paying for?

The ones that are not.
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>>378805974
Might want to look up modern solutions, I haven't heard of random desyncs in a long time. Were you even on those arcade netplay hubs or just playing the home versions for god knows what reason?
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>>378806129
The framework that facilitates the p2p games, dummy. Friends list, matchmaking, voice chat etc.
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>>378806140
$1.70/month isn't that bad.
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>>378804635
WHY DON'T THEY ANNOUNCE THESE THINGS ON THE FUCKING E3?
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>>378806252
>pay wall to play game on a console
>not bad as all
I Know you cucks love it.
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>>378806229
>Might want to look up modern solutions, I haven't heard of random desyncs in a long time

But it's not a decade, and definetly not "even longer"
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Does that mean no virtual console until 2018?
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>>378804879
>free until 2018
>$20/year
Pretty good
I'd rather not have paid online, but $20 a year with some VC games thrown in sounds fine
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>>378804635
>Super Mario Bros. confirmed for the Switch
HOLY FUCK YES
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>>378806248

>paying for a p2p 'framework'

oh my lord, how do I get out of this timeline
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>>378804879
>January Switch conference
>$30 a year starting in fall of 2017
>Switch online reveal
>$20 a year starting in 2018
Nice.
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>>378806346
Perhaps, perhaps not.
The online service and the VC aren't the same thing.
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>>378806387
>>378806396
This obvious shilling is sick.
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>>378806458
>Not the first post from this IP
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>>378806458
Second one is clearly ironic
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>>378806409
You don't, learn to laugh at it because these people will never allow it to stop. And on the bright side, there's not a single worthwhile multiplayer game today.
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>>378806458
pretty sure the second post is being ironic, but I agree with the first one - $20 is unexpectedly low and the online snes roms seem neat even if rather minor
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>>378804635
>browsing Twitter on Chrome
>phone posting on 4chan
>nigger
Holy fucking shit.
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>>378806409
Consider it like a dating service. You're not paying to date the women but to get in touch with them.
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>>378806458
>people having a positive reaction to something
>S-SHILLING
Fuck off you paranoid schizo.
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>>378806458
>>378806334

>tfw you can post literally anything positive and get a free (you) out of salt-kun

I think my switch is cool
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>2018

Thank Christ this shit is never coming out.
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>>378806109
This if it was for keeps it'd be the best deal for a home console ever but paying 20 dollars a year is already a steal.
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Wait, so is Virtual Console online only?
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>>378806458
Hahahahaha, actually made me laugh.
Fucking Autist.
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nintendo sucs
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>>378804635
the $20 is reasonable, I was thinking it would be $30. I'm hoping this delay until 2018 will allow them to improve upon what they promised, because things sounded iffy from the get go.

The voicechat/lobby set up smartphone app will either be a genius move or a horrible failure. They better take their time to make sure that shit can work flawlessly.
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>>378806248
So practically nothing, which that should be covered by the cost of buying a game with online play. These are also all things that I can do for free elsewhere. The only reason that consoles charge for online is because people pay. If people were to stop paying it would go back to being free. Please stop paying them.
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>>378806319
Yeah that's what I want in my E3 presentations, news about re-announcing paid online.
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If every consumer just up and decided that they wouldn't pay for online consoles then consoles would no longer have paid online

But consumers are dumb and this is the fatal flaw with capitalism
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>>378804879
Well. its going to be on par with ps2's online so it better not cost 60 a year, seriously no chat?
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>>378805828
>>378806119
are you genuinly retarded? Do you think the internet is some magical force? Game companies have to run hundreds of servers 24/7 which costs money. For a measily $2 per person to use, not to mention some bonus games? But sure, go back to to your fantasy world where everything is p2p.
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>>378806675
Seems like it.
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>>378806675
I think they'll still be released on the eshop, but you'll be able to get free month-long VC games with online. But of course, this IS Nintendo we're talking about.
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>Amazing mirror online
That's all I need.
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>>378806554
Anon do you like playing with friends right?
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>>378805828
>why does netflix cost money if im already paying for internet
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>>378804879
This is the first time in awhile that something's ended up better than expected for me as far as video games are concerned.
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>>378806937
It's just going to be leaderboards and you know it.
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>>378806883
PS2 had chat. It even had a lot of games that let you create rooms with customized map rotation and rules. It was really much better than people remember.
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>>378806950
Not really. Most of the time they just want to play the latest trend which is always worse than the one before it and has no staying power. Either I drag them into something or everyone has a miserable time.
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>>378806950

Yes. But I've found board/tabletop games to be a far better venture for game nights than video games desu
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>>378806853
blah blah blah i think servers are free blah blah blah capitalism blah blah trump
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Well, it's not as bad as I expected.
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>>378804879
$20 a year gets you
>Free games that you don't get to keep and only have one month to play
>Voice chat through your phone
>ARMS
>Some updated VC games
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>>378807128
>i think servers are free

What servers? It's all p2p

I would be willing to pay for online games if I was getting dedicated servers to play on
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>>378806140

>Paying less is better

I don't even know what you're trying to get at. Can people here stop being retarded
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>>378806140
>Consoletards are cancer.

I love consoles but seeing people rationalize paying for hot air is so disappointing.
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>>378804879
They must've figured out we realized they were using P2P.
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>>378806593
I think the Switch is cool too and I'm eagerly awaiting Xenoblade 2 and Mario but I'm also not a literal cuckold who bends over backwards and accepts anything daddy Nintendo tries to shove up my ass
>>378806897
Nintendo had decent free online throughout all of last gen, with only a few problems to fix (no headset support for games with voice chat, no built-in LAN port on Wii U, friend codes on 3DS, limited voice chat and messaging). There's no reason other than greed for them to start charging for only marginally better online.
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>>378807215
Do you think the P2P just magically happens? There's a bunch of servers and systems working to connect and conduct the games even if the actual game is p2p.
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>>378807187
What I get arms for $20 amazing Nintendo paid online done right.
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>>378806897
Buying games also costs money. If you buy a $60 game with an online focus, that should be the money that goes to the servers for the game. That is the way things have always worked.
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>>378807128
>i think servers are free

SERVERS PAID FOR IN THE $60 PRICE TAG OF THE FUCKING GAME.
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>>378807187
>ARMS
where does it say that?
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>>378807402
>Do you think the P2P just magically happens? There's a bunch of servers and systems working to connect and conduct the games even if the actual game is p2p.

And yet no where else do you pay for a p2p connection aside from game consoles. Not even games in general, just consoles

It's like paying to use torrent clients lol
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>>378807090
So you are saying switch'es service wont be on par with ps2?
Thats sad, how are people exited for this again?
Will they still have the obnoxious friend codes?
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>>378807485
Um actually sweetie you pay $60 for the $60 game not for the servers
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>Free shit are games you can emulate on your fucking phone.
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Is this separate from Virtual Console, or is this the only way you will be able to play old games on Switch?
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>20 bucks
free would be better but still better than what I was expecting
>free untill later 2018
Nice
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Imagine if you had to pay monthly to play Diablo II or Starcraft

lol this is what console fags want and I have no idea why. Just say no dudes is it really that hard? They won't do it if you don't buy into it
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>>378807584
It's not going to be on par with the PS2 when you need a god damn phone just to talk to people
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>>378807128
>blah blah blah i think servers are free
>>378807215
>What servers? It's all p2p
>>378807402
>Do you think the P2P just magically happens?

I really hope you are trolling.
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>>378807613
>free
You don't get to keep them, it's only a rental.
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>>378804879
Paid online is cancer period. You fucking sheep.
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>>378804879
What the fuck
Thats a rip off
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>>378804915
Probably because they finally got in touch with the backlash and they have to re-assess some stuff now with the new system.
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>>378806716
>the $20 is reasonable
No it's not, as it stands Nintendo hasn't improved on shit from the Wii U
>he voicechat/lobby set up smartphone app will either be a genius move or a horrible failure
This is something that should be native to the console
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I think Nintendo's online service will be worth it because they're fucking making games with online play in mind like ARMS, Splatoon 2 and MK8, without butchering their iconic franchises (Mario, Zelda) in the process.

I mean, Microsoft had a reason to do it (Halo, Gears, Forza, more console shooters and shit), now Nintendo has one too, the only one who shouldn't be charging for online is Sony, they don't have a single decent multiplayer exclusive, and paying to play multiplat shooters online it's stupid since you can do it free on PC with a mouse.
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>>378807612
>Um actually sweetie you pay $60 for the $60 game not for the servers

Guys, this is it. In the 15 years I've been shitposting on gaming forums, THIS has to be the single most retarded thing I have ever had the misfortune of reading.
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>>378807885
>as it stands Nintendo hasn't improved on shit from the Wii U
What? They even kept Miive-

Oh.
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>>378804635
Yea, this is great all guys, but I'm not going ignore and forget about them having a COMPLETELY retarded method around having fucking voice chat and Friend codes. They can fuck off with that....

But, with some bads, comes with goods.
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>>378807681
Okay so just turn on the Switch at the same time as your pal and suddenly you're playing together? No, because you need the service framework that Nintendo provides to set up these p2p games.
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>>378807887
To be fair MS dropped the ball pretty hard. The only games from them I would play online are Forza Horizon 3 and Master Chief Collection (assuming it even worked). Thankfully FH3 is on PC
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>>378807115
>board/tabletop games
Fucking gross.
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nice, I'll even give em $40
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>>378808007
I don't care fo voice chat and would prefer not to pay for it. Hell discord is a free and better alternative.
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Really don't see why I would bother. The only multiplayer games I'd want to play on the Switch if I had one would be Splatoon and maybe Arms, but both will be dead by the time you have to pay for the service.
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>>378805828
>Why do I have to pay for internet?
>I bought a computer
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>>378808052
I agree with this, after the Kinect Microsoft just went to shit and I don't want to hear anything else from them. I even bought an Xbone and enjoyed Halo 5 but still, no fucking games, it was nothing like the 360 so I sold it like a year later.

They still make multiplayer games though, people who like Xbox are still playing Halo, Gears and Forza online so they have a reason to pay.
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>Nintendo does something good
>People react positively
>"NO! NOOO! SHILLS SHILLS SHILLS! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
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>20 dollars

You get what you pay for, I suppose.
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>compete
MELEE ONLINE WHEN?
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>>378804879
Paid online is still shit but that's pretty cheap. Still shit though, I'm not going to defend it.
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>>378808506
It's worse than the Wii U and 3DS's online which was free.
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>>378804635
Fuck off nigger.
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Are they going add N64 games with online? Because these SNES games are useless.
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>>378808347

>paid online
>good
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>>378804879
well thats fine I guess.

I'm still fucking livid over this voice chat shit. The app should be here by Splatoon 2, but I need info on how that dumb app works now. Need to get the shitposting out of my system.
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>>378808642

>Now wanting to play Secret of Mana online

???

Does Square even put games on the VC?
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>>378808645
20 a year isn't bad at all, compared to paying literally 3x that for the other consoles.
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>>378807471
>what is WoW
No.
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>>378807187
>Get ARMS for 20$
shit nigga, best service ever
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>>378808382
>You get what you pay for

And what's that? You're getting an inferior service to 90's Blizzard games and those were free to play
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>>378808347
>use a little bit of lube when fucking you in the ass
>BASED NINTENDO
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>>378808796
>doesnt like prostate play
fucking NORMIES
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>>378808762

How is that comparable? Why not compare it to the zero dollars you had to pay on the WiiU?
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>>378808586
Fuck u
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>>378808772
What about all the other MMOs that are b2p or f2p and don't require a sub? WoW techincally doesn't require a sub any more either since you can buy game time with ingame money.
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>>378808762

The other guys give you more, though. Nintendo will rent you some games month to month, but Microsoft and Sony both give you a bunch of game rentals that don't go away after the month is over.
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People say it's really good and cheap.

But really, can you name 5 good online games this year and in the future?
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That's fucking huge
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holy shit, they might have actually listened to our complaints!
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>>378809081
Watch the selection be shit.
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>>378808945
Neck yourself.
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>>378809081
>>378809125
Holy shit. That's fucking huge.
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>>378809074

MK8
Splatoon 2
Arms
Jackie Chan
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>>378809081
>>378809125
All according to Kotaku
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>>378808018
>Okay so just turn on the Switch at the same time as your pal and suddenly you're playing together? No, because you need the service framework that Nintendo provides to set up these p2p games.

I still remember in the early 90s playing Link to the past on my Snes, and having a very good friend bullshit his way around how his Amiga Commodore 500 games were so much technologically superior.
That was my very first experience with MasterRace inferiority complex bullshit. Early 90s.
I always loved consoles and have owned most of the major ones.
And it came it this, year of our lord 2017, to finally admit that console tards are seriously fucking retarded.
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>>378809175
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>>378809081
>>378809125
Why didn't they fucking start with this? Is this like fucking Netflix for retro vidya? I have so much more questions now.
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>>378804879
Shit
That's the price of a fucking 4chan pass
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>>378809081
>>378809125
not too bad to get a few good nes games a year for $20, I expected less of Ninty desu.

hopefully they make their online better if they're charging for it though, MK8D runs like shit sometimes
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Is it time?
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>>378804879
20/yr is pretty good.
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>>378809081
>>378809125
considering that some of these games will have online, this is fucking great to see.

Nintendo can actually learn
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>>378809081
>>378809125
I hope they don't rotate these games out.
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>>378809081
are they nes or snes games? how many 2 player games are on the nes? all i can think of is ice climbers, bubble bobble and double dragon.
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>>378809125
>>378809081
So it isn't just a shitty rental service anymore? Thank god.
This better include gamecube games
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>>378809410
Time to ditch the power wrist. Also, that meme has dust on it. Handle with care.
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>>378809496
Balloon Fight, Dr Mario, Battletoads if Microsoft lets them have it.
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>>378808762
>this piece of shit is better than that piece of shit
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>>378806897
Funny how PC users don't have to deal with paying any online fee. Maybe it's because on closed platforms like consoles you are forced to suck corporate dick
>inb4 steam
I don't have to pay a single cent to play online games on steam (other than shitty mmos, but you pay that additional fee on console anyways).
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>>378809668
Welcome to modern day console gaming.
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>>378804879
>nintendo introduces paid online
>suddenly it's alright and reasonable

HAHAHAHHHHAHAHAHAHAAAA
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>>378809516
O N L I N E M E L E E
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>>378804879
Very reasonable price. I'm still not going to pay for it, but that's extremely reasonable.
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>“Nintendo Switch Online subscribers will have ongoing access to a library of classic games with added online play. Users can play as many of the games as they want, as often as they like, as long as they have an active subscription.”
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>>378804879
I'm not fond of paid online but seeing all this benefit that we can get by paying for online is pretty reasonable.$20 for a year is much better compared to its competitor so I guess I will applause Nintendo for this. I swear if their servers are still shit I will stop paying for online and I will shitpost about it
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>>378808674
There's a free version that is launching in summer. We'll likely have that by Splatoon>>378808714
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They should've just added a Blue Tooth to the Switch instead of doing this mobile phone crap.
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>>378809767
At $20 a year compared to $50-$60 on XBL/PS+, you're at least getting a reasonable price.
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>>378809767
Considering it's a massive difference in price, it's sure as hell more resonable that the other companies doing it.
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>>378810002
Probably don't want any interference with the controllers.
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Online Melee
Online Smash 64
Online Double Dash
Online Mario Kart 64
Online Mario Party

And bro

Online Kirby Super Star with voice chat

ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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>>378809767
People ITT are shitting on it but saying it's cheaper than the competition. Get it right sonyger.
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>>378810094
Dolphins been doing that for years
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>>378810025
At $20 a year compared to $0 on every previous Nintendo console and system, that is absolutely not reasonable.
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>>378809081
>as long as they have an active sub
how is this anything but bad?
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>$20 a year
That's literally what I make in 2 hours of work.

How is this bad at all?
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>>378809081
Amazing, this is everything I ever wanted.
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>>378810198
thats literally less than what i make in 1 hour
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>>378804635
>Having to pay a subscription fee to play the same old games you bought 4 times already
Good it's dirt cheap i guess, but i don't expect too many features since voip is already discarded.
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>>378810198
>10/hour
are you a child?
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>>378804919
lol no

They are doing it simply because you retards will actually pay it.
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>>378810135
yeah i know
but it's still cool
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>>378810156
if you don't have an active subscription, you aren't playing the console anyway. It's like saying this car as air conditioning, as long as you have gas in it. Will there ever be a situation where you want to just sit in your car without driving anywhere?
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>>378810329
If I were a child I'd be complaining about this being expensive.
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>>378810094
>Not mentioning Monster Hunter XX online
One job.
>>378810139
They are probably doing it for better servers and for the classic games thingy. I'm okay with this.
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>>378809946
I had no huge issues with their previous online service. The only problem is that they don't like local match making. For them "regional" was the western hemisphere. You want have a good connection to Japan or South America no matter how much you pay them. I will also point out that PC is a competitor and offers a better service for free. $0 is the only reasonable price.
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>>378804879
I would be absolutely ok with this had it not been for no native voice chat.
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>>378810363
>if you don't have an active subscription, you aren't playing the console anyway.
uh, single player games?
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>20$/year

It's over.
Nintendo won.
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>>378810290
That's literally less than I make in 17 seconds.
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>>378809347
It's one or the other, anon. I know you'll make the right choice.
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>>378810494
Then don't buy the subscription if you don't want to play online?
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paying for online isn't that bad actually. It will make shitheads who hack online more afraid of getting banned.
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>>378810587
>Then don't buy the subscription

And if everyone did this then there wouldn't be a paid online service at all

but nope, you guys are dumb
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>>378810401
>better servers
top kek, paid online has never improved an online service
>classic games thingy
Great, 20$ a year for games I can easily play for free on my PC and every other mobile system. Totally worth it
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>>378810587
no, its not that. they are selling the classic games for the online subscription, right? but you can only play them when you pay for the subscription? why cant they be permanent?
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>>378809081

For $20 a year that's a steal, what the hell?
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I got the feeling that MHXX is going to have free online since it's also a 3DS game
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>>378810672
But you can play those classic games online now though. With an active playerbase.
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>>378810651
If everyone did this, they would just make it free.

Why are people who play video games such terrible comsumers?
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>>378810672
then dont buy it?
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>>378810651
where the hell are you going with this

subscribe, get the retro games, play them online
let your subscription lapse, lose access to playing those games, much less online

why is this a hard concept to understand?

>>378810720
tell me the situation in which you haven't touched your console for a year, but somehow still want to play games on it. If you're ignoring it so hard that you let the fucking 20 bucks once a year lapse, then you almost certainly don't have any interest in the system, or playing shitty NES games on it with nobody else. Emulators exist, use those.
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>>378810756
The two games that I feel would have free online are monster hunter and pokemon
Pokemon because no one is going to fucking use it if they do and just use showdown instead
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>>378810345
Retard. Servers with high traffic are fucking expensive. Server admins are fucking expensive. You think motherfuckers do this shit for free? Cuz they love you? Fuck outta here. Just imagine how many normalfags are gonna be playing online at the same time, worldwide.
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I was excited until I saw the price.

For 20 a year you can already tell its gonna be some shit like "You can play Super Mario Brothers and Solomon's Key this month" and then they go away. You wont keep them like PS+.

What they need is a netflix-like service where a permonth sub gets you the whole NES/SNES/whatever library.
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>>378809681
>on closed platforms
>you are forced to suck

No bro.>>378809261 I love consoles but I have to admit that a lot of console tards are retarded and deserve to be exploited.
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>>378810943
>You wont keep them like PS+
you couldnt keep the games with ps+ either.
they had a time limit and expired
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>>378810943

>>378809125
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>>378810943
read the thread
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>>378810907
you type like a fucking retard.
also
>if you don't pay for online then you must have no interest in the console hurd ur xD
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>>378810943
see
>>378809081
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>>378810914
>Servers
What the fuck are you talking about? What servers? Nintendo doesn't host servers. They never have, and they aren't starting now.

They have ONE server for friends list and spying on you, which is simple af, and certainly doesn't cost 20 million dollars a year.
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>>378810943
considering they are adding online play, I can see why the entire library wont be there immediately.
But it literally is exactly like PS+, you keep it as long as you have a subscription, and its an "ongoing" collection, not a monthly thing. Read, nigga, read.
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>>378810943
It's part of a catalog and as long as someone has a subscription they can be played whenever they want to. Paid online is shit but at least shitpost properly.
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>>378810907
>where the hell are you going with this

That if consumers refused to pay for an online service, then companies would stop charging for it

But for some reason they continue to eat it up. I haven't figured out why yet
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>paid online
Anyone who defends Microsoft, Nintendo, and Sony on this needs to get shot.
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>>378804879
Remember /v/ Nintendo always win
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>>378810914
Developers add online to their games to encourage people to buy them. This makes them money. I don't think the developers that offer free online love me.
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>>378804879
$20 isn't bad but it puts into perspective with XBL and PSN that companies can charge pretty ridiculous amounts for online you already pay for, and us consolefags would be shit out of luck. No one's forcing you but you are compelled given today's emphasis on multiplayer.
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>>378811176
>>378811172
It's going to end up being some rotating catalog with 2-3 games per system at any given time. There is no way in fucking hell they'd give you anytime access to a long term full sized library when previously NES games were selling for 5 a piece on the Wii and Wii U

BEST CASE is its like PS+, where you keep the game of the month as long as you sub. So the longer you sub the bigger library. But it wont ever be pay 5 bucks get an instant library
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>>378804635
Why is online a selling point? Fucking everything is online, why do people support a company that is so behind jesus christ.
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>>378804635
Wow a console in 2017 is having an online service fucking really Nintendo drones? Seems that all these retarded threads about basic cosine stuff everyone knows about are always made by nintend dogs
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>>378811559
>>378811569
read the thread, shitposters
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I love how many angry, poor PCfats are in this thread
>tfw idort
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Who else here not doing online but buying VC titles every now and then
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>>378806420
Now confirm that we can keep the classic games on offer. Rather than giving us temporary demos.
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So it's decided. I'm closing my shitty PS+ subscription and embracing happiness with Nintendo Online service.
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>>378811619
>Acting like having to pay to play online is some kind of privilege that makes you better than anyone else
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>>378804879

Hopefully they'll delay it indefinitely. The Switch is doing well enough that they don't really need to charge for online to fill in the profit gap.
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>>378811481
The catch is the VC rollout is gonna be Wii U slow. The benefits of $20 a year on a console that many are predicting will sell Wii numbers probably outshines the need to nickle and dime people for NES games.
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>>378810943

Typical sonegro. They can't into reading
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>>378804879

>$20 a year
>free until 2018
>Netflix-like service of VC games
>Said VC games will now have online play

Shit, that's a pretty decent deal.
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>>378811859
>The Switch is doing well enough that they don't really need to charge for online to fill in the profit gap.
So did the PS4 but look at Play Station Plus. It was free on the PS3 and despite the PS4 selling like crack it still has paid online. They aren't getting rid of it ever.
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>>378809261
Nathan? Is that you? Add me on FB.
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>>378804879
Pack it up boys, Nintendo won
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>>378811851

>cucked.jpg
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>PC is now the only current platform without paid online
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>>378808285
>Why do I have to pay for a computer?

>I work
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>>378806210
Nintendo doesn't host servers, it's all P2P.
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God I love E3. All these gaming happenings. Truly, what a time to be alive. I wouldn't be surprised if one of the big 3 CEOs get have a stroke or someshit soon.
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>>378806409

Been asking myself that question for a long time. All the worst things that could possibly happen have already happened to me in this timeline.
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>>378812305
what is ps3, and Wii U
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>>378805468
You know they just say most to cover their asses.
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>>378810756
This, I guess that online games that doesn't need a dedicated server (just a direct connection between 2 players) will be free as well
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>>378804635
>Online lobby and voice chat: Our new dedicated smart device app will connect to Nintendo Switch and let you invite friends to play online, set play appointments, and chat with friends during online matches in compatible games─all from your smart device.

So this app is required not only to chat with friend, but to group/party up with them in a game? And the voice chat isn't even universal/cross-game party chat, it only applies to specific games which support voice chat? And this functionality is STILL behind a paywall?

Holy fucking shit Nintendo could you possibly fuck this up any harder? Paying to play online is one thing but paying just to voice chat with your friends via some smartphone app when it's not even party chat is beyond retarded. Like, lightyears beyond retarded.
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>>378812606

Dead consoles?
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>>378812305

3DS, Vita.
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IT'S NOT JUST THREE GAMES!

ACCESS TO ENTIRE VC CONFIRMED

https://mobile.twitter.com/jasonschreier/status/870458277724860421

I REPEAT

ACCESS TO ENTIRE VC CONFIRMED
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>classic games are so small it literally takes longer to load up a Netflix video
>Nintendo has its own Netflix like service for games that sony or Microsoft couldn't pull off because they don't have small titles and streaming introduces input lag

I think Nintendo just found thier new Wii gimmick.
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>>378813075
nintendo won
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>>378804879
HAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
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>>378804879
That's actually great. I spend 20 bucks alone on a day in food.
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>>378813465
>>378813396

How can Sony and, heh, Microsoft compete?
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>>378811614
What so having a membership is new aswell?? not even shitposting you faggot. I'm sick of people sticking up for the kind of shit they pull but its alright when nintendo does it so never mind.
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>>378813603
you post like a fat fuck :)
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>>378804879
I still would rather "free" games over this shitty demo thing they are doing. At least I can hope the discounts are good
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>>378813603
You're getting access to hundreds of older games with online access for $20 a year.
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>>378813730
>>378813075
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>>378813890
>hundreds
anon...
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>>378814035
>>378813075
That's good, now let's hope the VC goes better than the Wii U, having a good selection of N64 games on the go would make the subscription worth it alone.
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>>378813075
fuck yeah
superstar online
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>>378812878
platforms with free online
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Hey guys, we started paying PS+ and XBL Gold for better services and dedicated servers. Yet one of the biggest online focused games of the generation --For Honor-- had shit online.

Who explain ?
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>>378815049
>we started paying PS+ and XBL Gold for better services and dedicated servers
There's where you are wrong, companies charge for online because they can, not because they have to.
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>>378815049
>dedicated servers only exist with paid online
PC says hi
>every game has dedicated servers and not p2p
Most game shave p2p connections, For Honor included.
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>you need a separate device for a console voice chat
>might as well use discord for free
>Paying for online
>/v/ is actually okay with bullshit when Nintendo does it
can't believe this
>b-but the price is reasonable
THERE SHOULD BE NO PRICE AT ALL IT MUST BE FREE
especially with Nintendo's quality
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>>378815697
>>/v/ is actually okay with bullshit when Nintendo does it
People are still shitting on it retard.
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>>378815697
It's pretty shitty

They should have kept the online free, and the "Classic games Subscription" should have costed 20$/year

I would have gladly payed for that alone, to play online balloon fight. They better release Ice hockey for that shit, that would be great online.
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>>378806897
Nintendo does not host servers. Stop with this meme.

The only reason they are charging money is Sony and MS have shown that retards will actually pay.
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>>378817306
Does any company host servers?

I remember the god awful techniques people would cheese during Halo 2 in the XBLA days. And I remember hearing how bad For Honor is. There's no dedicated servers for any console games are there?
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Well I'm glad about the outcome of this, it could have been way, way worse.
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>>378817735
Xbox has Microsoft's Azure servers.
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>>378810914
I pay $2.5 a month to a debrid website and download 1TB a month. They have to supply the bandwidth AND pay for DDL premium accounts and they still make money.

Do you really think it costs a lot to run game servers? It costs almost nothing.
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>>378817735
"Dedicated server" is just a fucking meme. What people really mean by that is "match selection."
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>>378817735
Valve does (and PC games in general have a client/dedicated server system instead of pure P2P)

I would have thought there are console games that do, but I actually can't think of any.
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>>378817979
What? Have you played on dedicated servers? It's way better in every aspect.
>>378817998
Oh obviously on the PC, I was talking about consoles
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>>378804635
What would be the best videogame console for me?

I hate all indie (independent) games


I Hate All RPG's Games

I only play video games Rated E for Everyone in the ESRB.

I only play videogames AAA


And I do not like to play online
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>>378817979

>Dedicated servers are a meme

Jesus christ
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It's $20 a fucking >>>YEAR<<<
Literally what's the fucking problem?
It is literal children complaining about this?
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>>378818656
There is literally zero difference to the end user when you can't pick your own matches anyway.

If your ping sucks the server will suck dedicated or not.
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>>378813559
Sony is fine. Microsoft is on suicide watch.
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>>378818571
A DVD player
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>>378818794
Hard for ping to suck when your box is the "server"
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>>378810345
20 bucks a year is a pretty reasonsble complacent retard tax desu

I'm gonna play it
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>>378819067
If your box was actually the server then you'd have to open ports and shit and no one would ever get it to work.

P2P works by not having a server. Everyone just sends everyone the data and its more efficent
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>>378818954
And why a DVD player?


what is this? The year 2000
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>>378819287
Yes.
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Already Nintendo are cunts for charging for Online because Sony and M$ do it but holy shit
>Only one game a month that will be NES/SNES roms, no modern games
>Voice chat will be tied to a phone app that will require Friend Code bullshit
>Multiplayer will still be P2P so there would be no reason to pay for it besides increasing profit
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>I wil have to pay $20 to play MH with my friends
Bravo Nintendo
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>>378818726
I can't wait to see this get added to the collage of people shitting on sonygers for having to pay for online then saying shit like this in defense of paying for online For Nintendo. Nice going, idiot. Paid online is shit, end of story.
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>>378818726
>why do you care if Nintendo fucks you in the ass, at least they have a small dick
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>>378819228
>Everyone just sends everyone the data and its more efficent
I know for a fact that you're retarded if you think p2p is better than actual dedicated servers.
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>>378819785
>>378819843
Yep, literal children.
Sorry you're poor as fuck.
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>B-B-BUT IT'S CHEAPER SO IT'S ACCEPTABLE
This was the same argument used for when PS4 required paying for online
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>>378804879
>consolefags actually put up with paying for online

lmao
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does that mean this was real all along?
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>>378819903
>not wanting to have to pay to use the internet that you already pay for makes you a child
Nice logic, retard.
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>>378819996
>WTF I HAVE TO PAY FOR GAS FOR THIS CAR I ALREADY BOUGHT?!?!?!
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>>378820053
I didn't know cars originally didn't need gas to run and you could just buy a car and never need to refill it until car companies started forcing all car owners to have to pay for gas to use their car.
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>>378819996
No, retard.

You're paying for the service to allow you to play on their servers. You're paying for quality, as opposed to PC online, which has a variety of problems.

Not only that, but you get plenty of other features. Mustards are braindead.
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>retards actually defending paid online
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>>378820053
more like paying to be able to drive the car that you already bought the gas for, on the road
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>>378806960

Netflix offers movies and delivers them through your internet connection. With a video game, you already bought the multiplayer as part of the game. If we use Netflix as an analogy, this would be like having to buy a copy of the movie you want to watch, and then pay the Netflix fee in order to watch it.
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>>378820192
Wii didn't have this. Wii U didn't have this. Gamecube didn't have this either. None of their handhelds had it and those were fine. Stop defending this shit, it's trash no matter how you try to spin it.
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>>378820419
You're just poor.

Anyone with money wouldn't mind spending 20 dollars for a good service.
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>>378820192
>You're paying for the service to allow you to play on their servers
No I'm not.

>nintendo servers
>quality
LOL
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>>378820258
You have to PAY to drive cars. That's the road tax.
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>>378820246
>>378820192

>b-but it's only 20 dollars a year!
>there will obviously be quality control, even though Nintendo's game selection AND online services make Steam Greenlight look good in comparison!

It's funny in a way. kinda like when Nintendo fans say that Uncharted is a stupid movie game, but they bend over backwards and defend cinematic trash like metroid: Other M.
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>>378820419
>Wii didn't have this. Wii U didn't have this. Gamecube didn't have this either. None of their handhelds had it
And the online was fucking trash.

Do you not remember playing Brawl online?
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>>378820472
>You're just poor.
No I'm not, I'm just not an idiot who goes around defending paid online. Especially after spending half a decade shitting on everyone else for having to do it.
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>>378820472

>play on PC
>get superior Steam free of charge
>>
>paying to use your internet connection you already paid for
>console cucks
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>>378820536
>>b-but it's only 20 dollars a year!
That's really cheap, especially in comparison to the competition's $50 a year. It's still gay, though. I don't care how cheap it is. I'll never defend paid online.
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>>378820536
20 dollars is nothing.

Keep posting so we can all laugh at how poor you are.
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>>378820932
How much money do I have to post right now to show you that I'm not some poorfag who can't spend $20?
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>>378805278
>rom a single game to
wrong

psn and xbox live actually work
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>>378820742
PC users don't mind Nintendo doing this. You're an asshurt sonybro.
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>>378821042
PC users don't mind because it just cements PC as the best platform since you don't have to pay more money on top of what you're already paying in order to play online games.
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>>378820932
>>378820831

these are the same people that willingly defend microtransactions and the other online subscriptions. Assume that I have a decent paying wage that nets me at least 50k a year. there is no difference between a 20/year online service and a 50/year online service. The point is that neither should be charging me money when they're not giving me anything in return.
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>>378821027
>taking the bait this hard
Just stop replying to him
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>>378805468
They better not charge for P2P Games such as Pokemon or Street Fighter....
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>>378821270
Why did you quote me? I specifically said paid online is trash.
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>>378821042
I'm a PC user and yeah, I don't mind Nintendo doing this because I won't be buying a Switch. I can already play the only game on it and all the old games they are bringing with this online service
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>>378804879
This is why competition is a good thing you fags.
Sony will be pressured to lower psn+
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>>378821554
Why would they care? They have a monopoly on PS4 games online service market and Nintendo has nothing to do with it
>>
20$ a year? Plus classics? Literally nothing. I'll gladly pay the japs this.
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>>378822176
You also get literally nothing for your money
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>>378822285
its 20 bucks poverty Faggot, as long as they don't bring this to PC then it's okay
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>>378806140
>least expensive option gets praised
this is somehow wrong??
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>>378804635

Just like on the PS4, paid for online services are the best tool against hackers. I would gladly pay steam 60$ a year to use it if It was as hack and cheat free as the PS4.
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>>378822656
Just stop playing csgo
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>>378822652
>>378822643

But wqhat am I getting for that 20 bucks? do I get full access to every game they've ever made, forever? Do I get perfect quality online with no restrictions and instant bans on people under the age of 18? Do I get anything?
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>>378813075
to clarify, it's access to whatever is in the library

the library could be 3 games, we don't know the details yet

it's better than the single game for a month only thing though
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>>378823215
you get what sony and xbox users are getting for $40 dollars less

also
>full access to every game they've ever made forever
name one first-party developer that does this.
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>>378823215
You are getting access to online play which takes shekels, also snes games and such. This was inevitable on consoles, be thankful it's cheap as shit.
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>>378823606

>you get what sony and xbox users are getting for $40 dollars less
I get it on PC for free, and I don't have to wait for nintendo to tell me what I'm allowed to play.

>name one first-party developer that does this.
Everyone on PC for instance.

>>378823629

>This was inevitable on consoles, be thankful it's cheap as shit
hmm, no. I won't be thankful that consoles have become greedy.Anything above 0 dollars is not cheap enough.
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>>378823772
You didn't have to go through all this trouble. You could've just told that you pirate games to instantly let us know that you're a massive fucking poor, penniless, poverty-ridden faggot.
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>>378808586
>>378806584
can we start banning these subhuman /pol/ faggots
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>no achievement system

fuck nintendo
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>library of classic games you can take anywhere

So do you download them or are they dependent on being online to access them?
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>>378823964

>You could've just told that you pirate games to instantly let us know that you're a massive fucking poor, penniless, poverty-ridden faggot.
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>>378823772
Then build a PC
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>>378804635
>Nintendo Switch Online includes ongoing access to a library of classic games you can take anywhere!
For mere $19,99 each!
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>>378824371
oh boy, a meme! man, you sure got me now
how will i ever recover from this?
>>
>online service
>all you get is access to multiplayer
>like it's not enough you paid for the game and your internet connection
Oh and you get a couple NES games you can spend 5 minutes playing before you realise just how bad they are
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So 20$ for classic games then?
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>>378824315
Maybe it's just me, but I never saw the point in an achievement system. Like, I'm an idort and I turn achievements and trophies and shit off if possible. I hate that stuff.
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>>378825362

Says the man making false assumptions.
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So long as I need to use my own outside hardware to do shit like party up or chat this has no right being anything but free.
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>>378825569
>Balloon Fight
>Bad

I'll fucking kill you my nigga.
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>>378827670
I suddenly realised how much I'd like for a small new Balloon Fight game to be announced at E3
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>>378824324
Could be download on demand but requires a periodic check online every few days.
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>>378827948
Never ever with Iwata gone. ;_;
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>>378806584
>phone posting on 4chan
I have really awful news for you.

This was a shock to me too when I realized it was common 5 years ago.
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>>378804879
Nintendo wins as usual. Can't wait until MonHun comes out.
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