Here is your voice chat, bro

is this shit real

>>378791984
It's okay because it's Nintendo

>>378791984
voice chat isn't needed anyway. I played the first one without it no problem

>>378791984
How is this different from using Discord?

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>>378791984
That's a gud thing.

>>378792070

Yes.

2 whole console generations since the original Xbox live and Nintendo is still doing some weird gimmick headset

>>378791984
Just use iPhone headset for voice chat and speakers for game audio.

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Why can't you just plug the headset in the switch?

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>>378792465
because the switch doesn't natively support voicechat

I never ever use voicechat in any game so whatever

>>378792465
No reason other than the game itself not supporting voice chat. The headphone jack on the Switch has mic support.

>>378792465
the nintendo online service, which people will soon have to pay actual money for, doesn't support voice chat. You need to download an app onto your phone to do that, yes, even though there are already a million other apps that do the same thing for free.

>>378792465
Because they built it in cheapest way possible to save money.

>kids are too poor to own a phone
>this will keep the squeakers out
>quality will improve

We should be thanking Nintendo for being this innovative.

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>>378791984
Thanks. And here is your controller bro

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>joy cons are wireless
>this shit needs an adapter and 3 fucking wires

>>378792465
The decision to not include native voice chat took a lot of courage.

>>378792680
What kind of third world country do you live in? A lot of kids have phones and tablets

>>378791984
Buying it day 1. I like how Nintendo is switching it up for I can still talk to my gamer friends even when I'm away from the switch.

>>378792641
Isn't voice chat just peer to peer like most games are now?

The sad thing is I'm excited about the "play appointments" feature of the phone app.

Back in the day my friends and I would sit on our asses and play online/local games all day every day. These days I work all day, cook dinner and walk the dog at night. My friends do the same and we never play games together anymore. Making scheduled appointments sounds nice.

>>378791984
Is that yet another accessory nintenbros are going to need to buy to get a basic experience they should be getting out of the box?

>>378792834
Yeah it is. The app is just a nintendo branded skype.

>>378792923
Nah, just use the headset that comes with your phone. The accessory is only to combine your phone audio with the switch audio.

>>378792183
when will you fucking people learn that it isn't about whether it's "necessary" or not, but rather it being extremely obtuse and anti consumer of them not to include it
it is the INDUSTRY STANDARD to have built in voice chat for consoles and yet Nintendo managed to somehow fuck that up even though the switch is the NEWEST console in the market to be released
it's actually inexcusable

>but I don't want to hear 12 year olds on the mic
>but I don't use voice chat
>but (insert random coping device here)

fuck off, you cannot defend Nintendo here
I love the switch and Im going to eat up ARMS just like the rest of all these other nintendobabies, but you can't honestly defend Nintendo here

>>378793092
Just use your phone headset and put your phone in your pocket. Wow so hard.

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>>378792675
This. It's a smart business decision when pretty much EVERYONE and their grandmothers have a voice chat system of any kind.

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>>378793051
Well then why does the cable going to the switch have text that says "voice"?

>>378793051
Isn't the accessory just a splitter/mixer with independent volume controls and mic on/off?

>>378793297
That text is not about the cable. It's telling you where the volume control for the voice line is. The red text above it has a volume control for the game audio line.

>>378793297

le ebin updoot xD

>>378793331
It's unclear because like >>378793297 said it looks like the voice is coming from the switch itself, maybe all the phone is doing is transmitting your mic audio

>>378792785
nice reference

>>378793297
Seems like they have it plugged in the wrong way, which is weird. But it likely doesn't really matter which one you have plugged into which; it's just an audio line combiner.

>>378793297
That's a dial for adjusting the volume of voices from the phone. There's another one right there for adjusting the volume of the game audio from the Switch, too.

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You realize Nintendo is doing this so they can force people to buy a new switch model with all this built in in the future right?

This is a stupid business decision but literally NO ONE

NOBODY

NOT A SINGLE PERSON

NOT A SOUL

IN 2017

USES CONSOLE VOICE CHAT

If you do then you are retarded when Skype and Discord exist with much better sound quality and without screeching randoms.

>>378793331
Yes

>>378792702
>posting play station version

>>378792641
So? Everyone has a phone. This is genius.

Why cant I just plug in some headsets into my switch to voice chat and hear gameplay?

oh right, its because nintendo is fucking retarded.

>>378793180
Would have been far more convenient if the switch just had proper voice chat like every other companies consoles since 2005.
Have fun carting your mic dongle around along with the huge power bank you need to run the switch

>>378793603
most likely, just like the second stick on the nu3DS

>>378793481
That's the volume control.
http://www.hori.jp/products/nsw/Splatoon2_HDS/images/SPL-HDS-manual.pdf
>right side of page 1
>ボイスチャット(スマートフォン) 音量調整ダイヤル
>voice chat (smartphone) Volume adjustment dial

>>378793616
If you're paying for online the option should be there anyway, but not like this.

This is just dumb.

>>378793659
why are you defending this?
The switch should support voice chat natively. Why the fuck would I think it's a good thing to have to cart around a dongle with my console just for voice chat, and having to have twice as many cables going everywhere.

>>378793714
I'll have fun carrying my iPhone and iPhone headset like I always do.

Have fun being mad and staying mad.

also

FRIENDCODES are required so you don't hear some random guy swearing.

>>378793616
everybody who ever plays with friends on consoles uses the party chat function, why the fuck would you want your voice chat on a separate device? That's just retarded.

>>378793898
>I'll have fun carrying my iPhone and iPhone headset like I always do.
don't forget to take your official Nintendo™ party chat dongle with you anon ;-)
That's a good goy.

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>>378793786
To further my point, you can even see that the left (Switch) cable lacks the third ring on the plug which is used for mic audio.

However, this does not necessarily mean that the Switch cannot do voice chat on its own. The headphone jack on the Switch does have mic support.

>>378793971
So multiple people can use separate voice chat while playing split screen online using the same switch.

>>378793676
I'm still blown away at how this is real.

>>378794048
Everyone looks at me funny when I cram my iphone and switch into my skinny jeans.

>>378793971
No, not ever. The headsets compatible with native console chat are fucking garbage, the sound is muffled, everything about native voice chat is inferior to using a third party program from your laptop or phone.

>>378794127
jesus christ, the nintendo defense force is fucking retarded.

>>378794127
First of all, which tiny fucking subset of people plays splitscreen but wants to use the in game voice chat?
Secondly, that would mean the switch owner would need to carry around multiple splitters with their switch.

So you're telling me nintendo considered this tiny one in a million usecase to be more important than a person being able to just plug a headset straight into the switch and have it just work?

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damn, nintendo sucks at online

>>378794048
That's ok I'll just listen to the game audio through the speaker. :)

>>378794275
You are correct about voice quality being shit with the built in stuff on consoles.
This whole thing is pretty much quality vs convenience.

>>378794275
>The headsets compatible with native console chat are fucking garbage
you mean any 3.5mm or USB headset?
PS4 and xbone support pretty much any audio device you can throw at it.

>>378794460
They wouldn't need splitters at all. The splitter is only used to combine game audio with phone audio. 2 players could just use the switch's or tv's speakers for game audio like they always do and use their personal phone headsets they already own with their phones they already own. I'm not sure why you're getting so angry.

I'd be fine with it if they weren't planning on charging for online.

>>378794461
that's an understatement

>>378794758
It's ok you can use Nintendo points to pay for the online.

literally how can anyone defend this

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>>378794275
>>378794465
>The headsets compatible with native console chat are fucking garbage
Say that to my face not online and see what happens

>>378794881
I would like to be able to spend my gold coins on that because there's literally nothing worth spending them on other than Pikmin 3 dlc.

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>>378791984
>>378791984
>>378791984
No way

>>378795026
BTFO

Not to defend the weird ass online thing the Switch has going on, but I'm genuinely surprised anyone cares

I kind of thought all in-game voice chat was done on discord these days, regardless of platform

>>378794656
I'm not angry at all, I'm just bemused at why so many people are defending something which is just a total inconvenience and a completely retarded move by nintendo

>>378795205
People have to cling onto something to shitpost about.

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>>378794114
>when you need to build a fucking cartoon space rocket connected to your phone and console in order to start voice chat in vg

>>378795205
it's mostly because the online is paid and should be up to the standards of the other consoles.

>Nintendo is charging for online play
>Does not have built in functionality that has been standard on other consoles for 15 years for online.

Nintendo has to be making a real effort to be this backwards.

Reggie bagged on headsets on other systems being clunky to boot...

>>378793603
I'm glad I didn't bought shit, dodged a bullet here.

>>378792183
You do know that being pro-consumer is about the option being a convenience, right?

Just because it doesn't suit your needs doesn't mean others shouldn't want the option, let alone to be handled in a such way that implements extra steps connecting a damn headset to their system.

Worse still, imagine anyone who has the latest iPhone trying to use this.

When Nintendo mentioned that their chat system would use cell phones in some manner, I never imagined that there would be so many wires involved. It's bad enough having to use a phone app for voice support, but having an extra accessory to connect them together with fucking wires is the worst setup I could possibly imagine. What the fuck am I supposed to do if I want to online chat when the system is docked? Do I need wires running across the floor? What a dumb idea. They would have been better off to do nothing at all.

>>378795205
If the online was free it would just be another

>Haha nintendo is so behind the times lol

situation, but now it just looks greedy AND incompetent.

>>378795493
When the system is docked, you will only get game audio through the tv and voice through the headset.

So, you have to choose one or the other...

>>378795294
nigga it looks like a fuckin' squid
A SQUID

>>378795616
Makes sense given the Spatoon 2 tie in.

>>378795616
A space squid then

>>378795209
>not angry at all
Yeah ok ;)

>>378792914
That's genuinely a good feature.
It's a shame that they can't just have it built into the OS.

>>378795205
Discord is primarily used for PC gaming, PSN and XBL have competent group voice chat built in to the systems.

>>378795493
No, you don't need wires. You can use the phone as voice chat without any connection to the Switch. This device is only for mixing the phone's voice audio feed and the Switch's game audio feed into one set of headphones.

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>>378795590
You can just plug a into the headphone jack while it's docked and listen to the game audio like that. It's literally why the Splatoon headset bundle includes a 2.5m extension cable.

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>>378795506
it's more than just looks

>>378795590
>trying to play while everybody's microphones are picking up echos from the TV in the background
fug, glad I always mute voice chat

I wish people had better arguments than "it should just be there."

Why spent time to implement something when not many will use it? Just to have it? WoW put in-game voice years ago and I never met anyone who used it, instead opting for Ventrilo, Skype or now Discord.

Sure, this set-up is more inconvient but I'd rather have this and never deal with it than have the Dev waste time and resources putting out bugfixes and patches to keep trying to make it better.

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>>378795748
IM NOT FUCKING ANGRU YOU LITTLE SHIYT

>>378795752
I always have my phone on me, but not my switch. It would be nice if it was built into both, but not at the expense of switch battery/performance.

>>378795871
Ah, so you can, you just have to have a headset with 3 cables involved going to two devices just to use voice chat.

>>378792914
yeah I like these features of the consoles, I use the ps4's version to find raid parties

>>378795493
You use a bluetooth transmitter on your Switch for now. Maybe they'll enable bluetooth audio later on with what it has built in.

>>378792680
Are you kidding? Ever since android became popular smartphones were like computers for poor dumb kids.

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>>378791984
Nintendo is literally the Apple of videogames

>>378795294
is the Turkish ambassador ok?

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>>378795748

Switch has so much bullshit and added costs.

It's already an expensive handheld, but the rest of it just makes it obscene.

>>378796085
By the time smartphones came out you could buy a toaster for under 400 bucks.

>>378795490
Anyone dumb enough to buy the latest iPhone AND the switch deserves it

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>>378796020
It's two cables because no one has ever been stupid enough to consider pic related as two cables. Also, no. You only need one cable for voice chat.

>>378792914
Playstation and Xbox do this too, but at least they have functioning voice chat

>>378794275
I use the same headset on my PC that I do on my PS4.

But I don't use Discord on my PS4 because its counterproductive as shit when my PC setup has no space for my PS4 which is setup in another room

>>378796490
>Extension cable to adapter
>Headset to adapter
>Adapter to phone

That's three cables to do shit everyone else does in one.

>>378796510
They don't do that. They allow you to invite players but not set things up hours or days in advance as well as have reminders when people are not on their system.

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>heh that's funny lets see what people are saying in this thread
>people are actually defending it

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>>378795956
Dude, you're comparing PC gaming with consolepleb.

Of course nobody uses WoW's native voice chat. There are better options and players can just install them and use them easily, because PC.

You can't do that on consoles. Remember, you should be able to listen both your teammates' voices and the game audio at the same time. Using Mumble or Discord through a cellphone while playing consoles is retarded.

>>378795205
>Hop on Playstation
>Friend isn't talking
>Get text saying "dude get in the Discord"

Fuck you and everyone like you. If it's on PC, cool but otherwise i'm not bothering with it when the system has something in place just like it

>>378796940
Nintendo unironically shills here.

>>378796891
>extension counts as additional cable
You're just making the same cable longer.

>>378796925
Xbone's Club feature lets you do that, while the PS mobile app lets you do that as well iirc. But yeah it doesn't explicitly tell you

>>378796925
yes they do.
I don't know about xbone, but ps4 has a communities app where you can schedule events months in advance, specify a game and invite specific players (or make it publicly discover-able), and then when the time comes PSN automatically generates a party and invites every player. If you have the playstation app on your phone then you get a phone notification too.

This can all be done either directly on ps4 or through the app on your phone

>>378797071
there are actually zero cables, because you're just making the internal circuitry longer

>"lol just use Discord"
>people actually comparing console standards to PC

Really?

>>378792465
That will come in the Switch XL in March next year.

>>378797071
an extension cable that needs to be unplugged/replugged every time you dock and undock your switch does count as an extra cable.

>>378797113
>>378797078
My mistake then.

>>378797245
You don't have to unplug it when you undock.

the mental gymnastics these Nintendo faggot are going through to find this shit acceptable is pissing me off.
how can someone be so fucking blind and willingly open their mouths and eat whatever they put in their mouth.
it makes me upset for them

>>378797113
Fake news

>>378796925
>>378797078
Xbox 360 had a feature called "Beacons" where you could set 3 games with beacons and special message for people viewing them. If you fired up a game that a friend had a beacon setup on, it would notify you that they wanted to play it with friends. They didn't seem to bring that back on Xbone

>>378797394
you do if you're taking your party chat apparatus (I guess this is an actual term now, thanks nintendo) out with you

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>>378797227
Reminds me of
>Microsoft puts their games on W10
>"lol i'm not using that spyware!"
>proceed to endlessly suck Discord's teats despite it literally selling personal info

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>>378794114

>>378797424
It even supports tournaments and stuff, much better than nintendo's half baked crap.

>http://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps4/event/event.html

>Nintendo still doing this type of shit in 2017

what a fucking embarrassment

>>378791984
Um, sweetie, don't post this ever again.

>Dreamcast and PS2 literally had better online than the Wii, Wii U, and Switch

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>>378797552
>party chat apparatus

>>378797470
As someone who overthought xbox live friendships, that feature was really cool. I was in a lot of Forza clubs and it was really nice not bothering someone who was doing single player or playing another game. Just message them for an invite or join their game and off you went. It was mostly nice because typing and sending messages on the 360 was kind of clunky, so being able to intuitively skip a middle man was great

>Switch has Bluetooth

>Instead of a one cable solution you have to plug a million things in
How the fuck does this work in docked mode?

>>378797908
includes 2.5m extension cable
>>378795871

yep.

>>378797873
I appreciated it mostly for Street Fighter III: Online Edition because friends would see it when they fired up the game and knew i was already hosting a lobby

>>378797243
Switchi or new Switch, you mean.

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>>378797552
It's called a mixer, and you still don't have to take off the extension cable. Just roll the cable and put a velcro tie on it.

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>>378791984
>>378792343
Nintendo does some things right, but why are they still shit at headsets any anything involving moving games or their save data ? It has been 8-9 gens now, they should know what to do by now.

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>features that have been a standard for almost a decade for consoles and longer for pc are not even on the latest hottest piece of Nintendo tech
there's so much anti consumer shit they do and for some reason they always succeed, it's fucking baffling how they keep getting away with such abhorrent practices.
and people Will defend it to the ends of the earth as if brand loyalty was something to be proud off

>>378797908
In docked mode, you can just use the phone on its own or plug a headset directly into it. You only need a cable in the Switch if you want the game audio in a headphone feed.

the design looks crap, and it doesn't make much sense for a PORTABLE device, but has /v/ seriously never seen a mixer before? They're actually pretty useful in a home setup.

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>>378798090
>carrying a 2.5m (+ original cable length) cable around with you for portable party chat
Shiggy diggy do

>>378798263
>carrying anything around with you for voice chat in the first place

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>>378791984
>Current year and he STILL uses in game vc

kek c'mon anon just use Skype/discord

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Is there a way to use this in such a manner that it will just stream and blast music like a jackass

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>you have to buy an adapter to voice chat
>you need a phone with an active bill to voice chat

>>378798438
Yeah, probably. Just hook up something with audio out to your device with the app.

>>378798217
no, just make it through the goddamn console with just 1 headphone and that's it, like every other piece of tech in the goddamn solar system, there is absolutely zero advantage of doing all this shit, specially for a system that's advertised with portability, simplicity and comfort in mind

>>378793878
The entire concept is stupid. You're going to just use discord anyways.

I haven't touched console native voice chat since Xbox classic. It was garbage then, and it's only gotten worse over the years. Anyone that is basing their decision to play games around the availability to listen to children scream whatever fresh insults they found on Reddit at you doesn't deserve videogames.

The switch is a console that seemingly focuses on being physically near the people you're playing with, what with the whole portability aspect of it. The voice chat seems like an afterthought that was a prerequisite for third parties.
I can see EA saying that they won't put FIFA on the switch if there's no voice support natively, so they had to create work arounds.

>>378798092
>>378798170
The only thing they've adopted from competitors seems to be a unified system ID, and charging for their online service.

This is almost as bad as Microsoft back in the peak of their nickle and dime days
>Xbox 360 had no built in wi-fi until the first revision
>1st party adapter cost $100
>Controllers used batteries, but the plug in play cost $25-$30
>Had to be an Xbox Live subscriber in order to use Netflix or Amazon on the system until like 2012, effectively double-paywalling both of them

>>378798730
there's a mute option in all mps

>>378798730
I wouldn't be surprised if this was just a thing for Nintendo's games and third parties could just do it like normal.

>>378792343
>nintendo
That's some unnecessary 3rd party device.

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>>378798730
>Ignoring the fact that party chat limits those you can hear to those in the party in order to shill Discord

I admit, I do use Discord for most things but at least pretend to know what you're talking about

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>>378798246
HOLY SHIT DUDE, are you telling me that this is a simple mixer? Do I have to change my switch volume and cellphone volume separately? How the fuck will sound suppression work?

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>>378791984
pass it over here dawg

>Wanting to talk to fellow 4channers

For what purpose?

>>378798958
Yes. See >>378794114
The Voice and BGM parts with the arrows are where the volume dials are.

>>378791984
>game journalists pros group is going to defend this until they rally behind microsoft because publisher dollars
>journs pro group will consecutively absolutely destroy nintendo once new publisher brings them new ad bucks and nintendo stops paying
just wait til after E3 and they start faking hype and writing pieces on how microsoft will save gaming

>>378798730
console voice chat is exactly the same quality and just more convenient than discord, and the consoles support any 3.5mm or USB headsets so voice quality isn't a problem. Console OS level party chat can be set to either totally over-ride in game lobby chat, or it can mix them together if you want. So you can choose to totally block out randoms by default if you choose.

All this can be done through the 3.5mm jack on the controller itself and doesn't need a nearby laptop or pc with discord running.

>>378798809
the worst one
>360 didn't come with a hard drive by default until waaay down the line
>some games required a hard drive and wouldn't run unless you had one
>360 fats were only compatible with microsoft's way overpriced HDDs

Anyone defending this or the need of a smartphone app for voice chat is a delusional retarded fanboy.

There is no excuse. Both Wii and WiiU had voice chat games without the need for a smartphone app. The PC, Dreamcast, PS2, XboxHueg, 360, PS3, PS4, Xbone, all implemented voice chat without the need for a smartphone app or device beyond a microphone.

Not only does the switch require a separate device and app to voice chat with friends, but you now require a 3rd device if vou want game audio and chat audio to come through the same headphones, which is a necessity if you're playing online and don't want to piss off your team mates with TV audio echoing through your mic. Don't forget you need to use Switch compatible Nintendo approved headphones kids! Every other console (WiiU included) allows you to take any old pair of headphones with a mic, plug them directly into your controller and use them no problem. This is counter-intuitive, inconvenient laziness on Nintendos part.

I get it, you're an early Switch adopter and you love your new toy and you feel the need to justify your purchase as much as you can. Can't have people sayin the Switch is less than perfect, no sir. But seriously, anyone defending this is either a poorfag fanboy who can only afford one console and therefore feels some sort of allegiance to that brand (like most fanboys), or a literal shill. There is 100% no defending this in the mind of a rational human being.

>>378799310
Not to mention
>Memory Units for the system cost around $35 iirc
>Ended up buying one of their first party HDDs two weeks before they released the update allowing support for external drives and USBs

>>378799335
there's people defending this? where?

>>378799801
RTFT

>>378799801
Can you read?

>>378799335
>you need to use Switch compatible Nintendo approved headphones
You do?

>>378797601
Oh, it looks like a squid

>>378799874
>>378799901
nah, just show me an example

>>378799335
>He doesn't use a smartphone app to communicate while gaming

Holy shit is this pre 2020? Fuck off grandpa.

>>378799926
No you don't.

>>378800418
what am I even looking at?
Who is Hedlok?

>>378800167
Scroll up motherfucker

>>378800662
>I couldn't find an example

>>378801043
>please spoon feed me!!1!

>>378792264
>>378792405
>>378793051
>>378793180
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>>378794465
>>378794656
I got bored after these

>>378798674
>>378794127

>>378801043
Unbelievable

>>378801370
>being one of those autistic douchbags who has his speakers blaring through the mic for everyone else to hear

shiggy diggy

>>378801370
none of those are defending it, just offering workarounds

>>378801436
Who the fuck is so autistic that while playing split screen they would rather talk via mic to complete strangers instead of the person next to them?

Are you seriously trying to say nintendo's justified in inconveniencing 99.9% of their consumers just so the single digit number of people who want to both chat online while play couch co-op can do so? (despite a million other services that can deliver this already existing)

>>378801043
>>378800167
Kill yourself kid. Seriously. At this rate you won't make it through school anyway.

>>378801561
I play MK8D with my m8s on discord through the phone. No problems, no tv sound leaking into chat.

>>378801621
Those people replied to posts criticising nintendo's abominable chat system with the specific intention of trying to make it look less worse than it is, that is called defending

>>378791984
>IPhone 7 has no headphone jack
Wut do? Spend another $700 on a android

Truly the ultimate online gaming experience

>>378801669
Well, my brother and I like playing online games with family who are states away.

>>378801817
>>378801874
I think you're confusing "defending" and "suggesting alternate solutions", buddy. Defending would be an anon saying the design is good, which absolutely nobody is doing - all of those quoted replies are anons trying to think of other uses or workarounds to the poor design of the product. Honestly it just comes across that you're trying way too hard to shitpost to the point of marking discussion as "defending".

>>378802005
Use skype, discord, whatsapp, facebook, facetime, etc.
Nintendo didn't need to fuck their online chat system to pander to this niche.

>>378801947
Just use your iPhone headset for chat, and speakers for game audio.

>>378802026
"suggesting alternate solutions" to make the product look less shit than it is, is defending.
Sorry bub. You're wrong, you should have probably finished your English language classes before hopping the border.

>>378801370
Wow! 8 (you)s!

>>378791984
and you're still going to have to pay for nintendo online. When it will be objectively a considerably shittier experience

>>378802186
>to make the product look less shit than it is
it's more likely they're just thinking of alternate solutions so that they don't have to put up with this bullshit, it's only your own delusion that has extrapolated that these people are trying to 'defend' anything.

>>378802301
As hilarious as your mental gymnastics is, it's still wrong

>>378802386
Spotted the xbot

I feel sorry for everyone who bought the piece of shit Switch. Even worse than the Wii U so far.

>>378802472
>This guy called out my spastic gibbering, I know! I'll call him an xbot/sonyyger/pcbro!

like clockwork

>Instead of having some sort of bulky gamer headset, you’ll be able to do it right off your smartphone, put in your earbuds that you use for your standard mobile device. We think that’s a pretty sweet solution. - Reggie Fils Amie

>>378802386
stay in your delusion; not my problem.

Any work if we can use bluetooth from console to phone? Im fine with wires coming from phone to chat but if im forced to use 3 cables im gonna be pissed

>>378802650
Hilarious that they didn't fucking think about how the Iphone 7 doesn't have a audio jack,

>>378802650
why not just put those earbuds directly into the switch? I think that would be a pretty sweet solution

>>378802642
this anon >>378802472 wasn't me, this was me >>378802664

So how is this supposed to work docked, since the pro controller doesn't have a jack like the DS4 does.

>>378802664
>company makes bad decision
>it's not that bad
>who doesn't have a smart phone anyway what are you poor?
>wow using a phone to talk to people in 2017 so inconvenient

All direct quotes from this thread and previous threads. Justifying a decision IS defending it. Seems like youre under the impression that defending = praising :)

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>>378791984
Y'all are hipacrits.

>>378800096

I'm a squid now I'm a jew now

>>378802827
that's a damn good question and I don't think anybody in this thread has an answer for it. Why does the app have to be on a smartphone instead of simply on the Switch? I hope to god this is all some kind of misunderstanding for what's meant to be a niche product and not how the entire voicechat will work...

>>378802990
the super elegant solution of an 8 foot extension cable across your living room floor.

no really. See
>>378795871

>>378803021
it's just their opinion desu, no need to be upset

>>378802827
They're just getting with the times, bro. After all, you all have been making fun of Nintendo for being behind the times. So now Nintendo is going to show you just how in touch they're going to get.

>>378802089
iphone earbuds don't work on gaming consoles, at least not ps4 or xbone. Also nobod wants to fucking hear your game audio from your tv coming through your headphones you cunt.

>>378802086
>bringing the voice chat up to par with the standard is somehow "fucking it up"

Found the Nintendo employee.

>>378803156
>So now Nintendo is going to show you just how in touch they're going to get.

>p-please Nintendo sama!
>Don't touch me there!

>>378803034
>plug headset into PS4 controller

vs

>Plug head set into splitter
>plug phone into splitter
>plug Switch into splitter
>buy two cable extenders

>>378802990
When docked, you can either just use speakers for game audio and the phone for voice chat or use the mixer with an extension cable to the dock if you feel like being crazy. I guess you could do something like plugging the mixer into a wireless bluetooth audio device, but that sounds kind of troublesome.

>>378803125
I'm not, just pointing out that there are in fact people defending this shitshow.

>come home after a long day's work
>turn the lights on, put phone on charge, make a drink
>want to play switch online with buddies
>switch has no built in chat
>my phone is charging, can't use it to chat

This is going to be an issue

>>378803034
>this damage control

Damn Nintenbros are butthurt over this.

>>378803158
It doesn't need to work on a gaming console. The voice chat operates completely from the phone, independently of the console. The connecting device is just for combining sound feeds from the console and phone.

>>378803547
I'm surprised it took this long for someone to post this.

>>378803706
>The voice chat operates completely from the phone, independently of the console

And that's the fucking problem. Because of that you can't have chat/game audio coming through the same source without a 3rd device. If you don't see the problem here youre retarded.

>>378803034
there's only one actual cable between the headset and the processor box, which you set up once and never have to touch again. Not really the same thing as a squid dongle you need to grapple with every time you want to chat online

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Nintendo is literally apple now.

>>378803375
>two cable extenders
It includes one and there's no reason for the phone to need one.

>>378803915
At least what Apple did made sense.

>>378803921
One for the Switch's cable and one for the headset.

What if I want my friend's voices to come out of the TV/speakers? I'm fucked? I hate wearing earbuds for any length of time

>>378803960
it really didn't.

>>378803960
Expect you can't charge your phone and listen to music/videos at the same time.

>>378803985
How far away do you sit from the TV?

>>378804079
Bluetooth. And the 7 has crazy long battery life anyways.

Fucking Xbox 360 had it working in 2005, this shit is simply unacceptable.
End of the line, anything else is not an argument.

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So is this Nintendo "just not getting it"

or Nintendo actually getting it, acknowledging that online gaming is now an absolute necessity, but not respecting it and thus just narrowly putting in the bare-minimum investment?

>>378804490
Putting voice-chat behind a puzzle-wall is just odd.

>>378804490
They are just not getting it.
There was probably some board meeting and they discussed the features of the switch. Voice chat came up and some old faggot said something like "Why not just have them use their phones? Kids like using their phones"

>>378804490
They don't want to put more apps on the Switch because of their fear of hackers fucking up their consoles like all the others.
Like all Japanese companies, they're backwards as fuck.

Sony had to employ westerners to design the PS4 and it shows, the damn thing has been out 3 years and still no meaningful hacks whatsoever.

>>378804490
Surely it would have been less effort for them to just do it on the system. With an app they had to develop a system for the game to tell the app which people to connect with and stuff

What probably happened is that Nintendo planned some extensive phone/switch tie in app and due to time or budget constraints that got cut down into the aborted discord clone switch owners are getting

>>378804739
Nice headcanon

>>378804940
At least it's an explanation for the most dumb voicechat system of the last 20 years in gaming.

>>378803034
No other console does VR. Meanwhile even the fucking Vita can do voice chat natively. Nice damage control though.

>>378805205
Forget Vita, literally any tablet can have a built in fucking microphone.

>>378791984
>Nobody out-Nintendos Nintendo like Nintendo.

>>378805170
Yeah, but a wrong one

>>378804940
>implying it's not true

They even admitted that was their reasoning for no web browser. They just don't know how to implement basic online features without leaving the back door open for hackers.

>>378805394
I'm pretty sure it's a weakness thing, same reason after 4 months the Switch still can't do basic things like web browser or netflix.

>>378805543
Because it isn't, if that were true they would have delayed the app like the browser, like >>378804771 said is less effort
>>378805969
You are just idiot

>>378806542
Stunning argument.

Protip: It's not an argument

>>378806732
Stunning argument because....

>>378805969
Bullshit. You can play 8-players on Bomberman and every Switch controller uses Bluetooth.

There's no way the damn thing can't use a Bluetooth headset.

Clearly online was a complete afterthought with this thing.

>>378805969
Web browser and Netflix not being out yet isn't because of system weakness. Do you think the Switch is weaker than the 3DS and Vita?

>>378791984
All hail Nintendo. Truly the most brilliant company to ever exist.

>>378803034
That damage control. Comparing something that's been standard fu functionality in consoles for 12 years to new tech.

>>378807475
The different is, the Switch is primarily a home console competing with other home consoles that already have these features. The fucking Wii U had Netflix.

>>378807604
And that means the Switch must just be too weak to run Netflix or a web browser?

>>378807604
The Switch is a tablet. A tablet can run Netflix. A 3DS can run Netflix. The goddamn Wii can run Netflix.

A tablet that is running on guts more powerful than the Vita by technicality because A57s are a few steps ahead and technically Tegra X1 is still the most powerful mobile GPU on the market as of now.

Literally the only thing keeping Netflix off the system is either an install base or Nintendo just doesn't deem it practical to use the Switch for a media player.