Metal Gear Solid 4

>>378770881
BROTHER!

>>378770881
10 hours of cut-scenes and 10 minutes of game-play.

Cutscenes every other minute.

>>378770881
around 20 hour long game. only 3-4 hours of gameplay though

>>378770881
LIQUID

Fanservice and nostalgia. Very great sneaking, but not enough of it. Nice gunplay. Nanomachines. The most lengthy cutscenes.

A weird turn of gameplay from Metal Gear Solid 3.. but was still decent,

just play it on youtube jesus christ it's literally the same shit lol.

>>378771007
A good conclusion. Only cucks disagree.

Garbage plot.

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>>378770881
Ignore the shitposters, MGS4 is 10/10.

Make sure you're comfy before playing it.

MERYL MARRY ME

>>378770881
20-30 hour game (depending on difficulty) with a ton of replayability (if you want to collect all the weapons).

Story is fanservice shitfest the kind that only a decade or older japenese anime tier franchise can deliver.

Gameplay, music, graphics(for the most part) are all excellent. Definetly one of the best games on the PS3.

A shitty anime about a granpa and muh nostalgia

well that depends OP, what did you think about MGS2?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPbNi_UxNBw

JUST
WATCH IT

Better gameplay than msg3, worst sneaking than msgv. You can use metal gear and that makes it the best in the series imo

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It's very underappreciated but simultaneously very disappointing. It doesn't feel quite like the send-off the series and Snake deserved and the narrative seems to progress regardless of catalyst or impetus. Things just seem to happen with little rhyme or reason, and it's not very cohesive. The gameplay is smooth and fluid, but the level design is all point A to point B, eschewing the nonlinear, exploration focused design the series was known for. Boss fights are good, but the bosses themselves are incredibly forgettable (there are some very obvious exceptions).

It still manages to have some of the best moments in the entire series.

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>>378771876
>The sneaking is shit in a stealth game but you get to ride this cool robot for about 10 minutes of gameplay
>Best in the series

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>>378770881
So you're played every other title except 4?
Why are you playing 4 last? Have you been playing chronologically?

I believe it was the MGS that introduced fast crouch movement, which was then carried over to peace walker and the following titles. Playing in release order, MGS4 really curates the controls and makes the experience refreshing and more fluid.

Have fun, its a good one.

Is MGO really coming back?

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>>378770881
Fappable bosses.

>>378770881

50% cutscenes
25% shitty-ass setpieces yes, even shittier than the rest of the series
10% TPS
15% the best gameplay in the series.

Snake is a grumpy old bastard it's hilarious

>>378770881
Pure joy and a great finale.
>>378772331
Also this. Octopus best girl

Get some popcorn and a comfy chair but some cutscenes memeing aside are longer than an hour.

ID-tagged soldiers using ID-tagged gear

A long ass movie with tons of fan service and hardly any gameplay.

Remember to take pictures of the beauty and beast bosses.

>>378772438

This is actually a pretty good summary.

>>378772931
video games did it to them!

>>378772698
>some cutscenes memeing aside are longer than an hour.

jesus christ

>>378773183
Kojima basically stuffed as much story as he could into the game to tie up all the loose ends.

>>378771092
This isn't an exaggeration.

>>378773527
Yes it is

Kojima was depressed when he made 4.

Why do people act like cut scenes are bad?
all i care about is story.

>>378770881
A ton of fanservice. Understandably terrible answers to questions people asked about MGS2 that were never meant to be answered. A perfect wrap-up to the series despite the overall stor being "meh". The best gameplay in the series.

>>378771230
will do

>>378771382
liked it a lot, not as much as 3 though. Though midnfucking with raiden near end was 11/10
>>378772026
I only picked up ps3 recently. Playedboriginal on psx, then mhs hd collection on 370. Played around with snes ge, then MGS V released and finally just got ps3 for 40$ and game for 2$

>>378772331
nice

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The gameplay is considered to be the best in the series, even though I preferred MGS3's gameplay, it felt less sluggish but that's probably because MGS4 plays at 30fps.

The catch is the gameplay is enjoyable when you're allowed to play. There's a shitload of cutscenes this time compared to the earlier entries to the point where they can be considered interrupting. This is even worse because the story itself isn't nearly as good as the previous three games, so having to sit through the cutscenes isn't worth it this time imo.

You'll likely play through it once and maybe enjoy the story the first time, but on the subsequent playthroughs the mediocrity becomes more apparent and you won't even wanna sit through the cutscenes. Also the ending was really dumb and pointless.

Acts 1 and 2 are good but after that the game falls off a cliff. I'd put MGSV higher than MGS4 just for the fact that I was allowed to play, and the story (while still mediocre and unfinished) wasn't imposing.

>>378771092
10 hours of cutscenes is not an exaggeration, but there's at least 1 hour of gameplay there.

Best classic MGS gameplay (and best in the series) and the best boss fights in the series. Lots of feels if you grew up with MGS1.

>>378771876
>>378772025
Going undetected in MGS4 boss extreme is way harder than anything in GZ or TPP as far as stealth goes.

>>378770881
hours of fan service and a story that shits on everything the prequels established

best gameplay of the series before MGSV tho

>>378773926

Too much of the gameplay is just a setpiece or a third rate shooter. The only time sneaking is fun is in the first two acts.

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>>378771230
>MGS4
>10/10
>saying anything but this is "shitposting"

Looks like I gotta post it again...

>>378770881
Disappointment.

>>378770881
People exaggerate the 10 hour cut scenes, 2 and 3 also had long ones, boss fights aren't the best in the series but the story is really good

>>378773183
>>378772698
One cutscene is longer than an hour. But there are a few in the 20 minute range

>>378773778
The cutscenes are bad because the story is bad.

I say this as somebody who always enjoyed the cutscenes in the series until MGS4.

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>i-it's bad...

>>378774148
w/e, kid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGf2b1H91JA

MGS4 is a lot better if you don't try speedrunning or ignoring the game. Soak up the atmosphere. I think I probably like it more because it's Solid Snake, and not Big Boss, and I liked MGS1 a lot.

>>378771170
What?

>>378770881
Confusion, then anger, then sorrow and finally acceptance.

>>378770881
Believe it or not, it's quite appropriate since there's more closure you'll experience than MGSV. Enjoy it and drop the bar of expectation.

>>378774104
Sneaking in europe tracking down big mama isn't too bad, just different from all the gunfire and explosions. Those little robots in shadow moses are a pain to sneak by though

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*blocks ur path*

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I loved this game. I guess you could say it didn't properly follow up on the insanity of MGS2, but it was good enough for me, loved all the fanservice shit.

Kinda torn on some things though. The game feels very short with only the first two acts having normal gameplay, after that you have act 3 which is 100% sneaking in plainclothes and then a boss fight, act 4 which barely has any people in it as you sneak through Shadow Moses, and act 5 which is just a quick assault before the game basically ends.

Still love it though. David Hayter's performance is sublime, he came a long way from the hokey shit in the previous 3 games.

Only wish we could get it on PC so it could be played with a framerate that isn't like, 10fps. I know they have to take out some dialogue that mentions PS3 features but whatever, this game is too good to be stuck on the PS3.

Need more games with cool old people. MGS4 and The Witcher 3 are among the few.

>>378770881
Lucky you, I wish i could experience it for the first time again. It's single handedly the best metal gear experience. The memes of it being to cinematic are true, but there's a good chunk of gameplay that's god tier.

I fucking love MGS4. The bad thing is after act 2 it's painfully bare. If all five acts had been as long as 1/2, of course people would still bitch, but it would have been an even better game. Best fucking cqc in the series. When it came out, I was blown away by the visuals. It still stands out as a great looking game.

I say all this as a faggot who is undecided between 1/3 as his favorite. Mgs4 is over the top, storywise, but it's still fantastic.

I hope MGO2 comes back.

A shitty flick that completely ruins MGS 2, the greatest game ever made

I'm in the same boat as you OP, I bought a PS3 for MGS4 and ended up falling in love with Yakuza 4/5 but in any case:

-Presentation: 10/10 amazing
-Gameplay: 7/10 it works but the bosses kind of suck and it just serves as a vessel for presentation

I'm at the last part and I suck ass so I can't beat it - good luck tho

>>378774995
MGS2 is fun if you were 10 years old playing it when it came out. Its pretty shit aside from the narrative

>final cutscene is 75 minutes long

>>378775161
Pleb filtered.

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This thread gave me hope after all shitty memes. Thanks guys
Got my beer and snuggy ready

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>>378774396
>w/e, kid.

That still doesn't change the fact that as a Metal Gear game, it's a noticeable step down from its predecessors mainly because the gameplay to cutscene ratio is awful combined with the story and writing being bad.

The fact that Kojima didn't even want to do MGS4 and that he was depressed during development says a lot and it shows.

I already posted my thoughts here>>378773847, read it if you want or don't.

>>378775186
So? What's wrong with long cut scenes? They are part of the story.

Play Nintendo if you don't care about story.

>>378772331
i added her on facebook she ignored me the good tiemes

>>378775287

The story is garbage.

>>378775262
Have fun,the stun knife is your best friend

>>378775285
You can have your opinion, but honestly I don't even remember much cutscenes. The Drebin stuff was kind of annoying, I didn't like that part.

>>378775352
OK :^)

>>378775287
>state a fact
>you assume it's negative criticism

kek you're insecure

The last cutscene with the credits is over an hour long
And you can't skip the credits either

>>378775551
Play Nintendo if you don't care about story.

mgs4 was fucking awesome
shitters hated on it
but it was SO FUCKING GOOOOD

ahead of its time, like most MGS games are

enjoy it

>>378775262
this game is so good.

>>378774342
You're opinion is wrong.

It's a very depressing game to play. The framerate is shit, the playable levels are short, the bosses are shit, nothing stops you from loading up your perma silenced tranq gun with a billion rounds, the story is an aggressive waste of time and kojima would rather use the cutscenes to cover as many series plotholes as possible instead of trying to tell a story that can stand on its own feet.

Plus the shit about Zero in 4 feels like it came out of a really bad fever dream.

Laughing Octopus and the last fight were really good, also loved Act 4.

The part where you grab mantis with the doll and the music changes still makes me jizz to this day

>>378775629
what did he mean by this

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Villains are poop. Pic related, it's all four of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OW4zQiyA5vI I love the acoustic guitar in this track. It's so perfectly melancholic, captures the tiredness Snake feels in his aging body.

>>378775629
Wait what

>>378775262
>war
>war has cha---
ALLAHU AKBAR

>>378775285
Maybe he was depressed, if so it worked out nicely for the game. You can feel how tired of fighting everyone is, how they are forced to keep on going, and even if they weren't fighting they don't know what else they'd do.

>>378770881
The last real Metal Gear Solid Game

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>>378775414
>You can have your opinion

And you can have yours. I'm not even mindlessly shitting on the game, all I'm saying is it's a weak entry and Kojima's done better work than this.

MGO2 was the best in its series though and innovative compared to a lot of multiplayer games nowadays.

>>378770881
Only the first two chapters really part as part of the game. The rest of it is just a sometimes interactable cutscene that wraps up the MG saga.

The lack of actual gameplay was the most glaring flaw but I do think it wrapped up the MG story nicely. I still think Rising isn't canon.

>>378775262
>posting on /v/ instead of paying attention to the game

Are you the average /tv/ poster? Stop this shit, just go play the game.

1, 2 and 4 remain my favorite of this series. Some people seem to think that 3 is the best one but while it was alright I really prefer the future tech warfare over running around in a bad PS2 jungle.

Peace Walker is a good story in a trash game, completely kneecapped by being on the PSP and thus every single zone is about the size of a convenience store.

MGSV I thought was a great game but the minimalist story is a jarring shift and the fact that the game doesn't have an ending speaks to how fucked over by Konami it was.

>>378776502
If he posted that right after taking it he'd still just be listening to Snake monologuing about modern warfare.

>>378776370
Rising tells a better story about the war economy and VR than mgs4 did. Without the absolute terrible pacing.

>>378776154
You could also argue that that's why the game wasn't as good as it could have been, because Kojima was tired.

It's also why Solid was just hastily killed off. Kojima was tired of Metal Gear, and so he gave Solid the axe.

>>378770881
MGS4 is pretty weird. While MGS1, 2, and 3 were all different from each other in their own right, MGS4 goes way the fuck out there. The first two chapters are extremely well done but the gameplay nosedives after that.

The gameplay of Chapter 3 and 4 could have stayed but they should've been much, much shorter. Chapter 3 should have been shortened by half and include a battle in the city, similar to the first two chapters. There should have been another battlefield sneaking mission in a new area inbetween Ch. 3 and 4.
Ch. 4 should've been half of its length, period.
The battlefield sneaking idea was brilliant but they didn't utilize it enough and the majority of the game is bullshit levels.

>>378770881
You have poor grammar. Game is good though, don't let others tell you different. Why play the rest first before 4? That doesn't really make sense.

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>>378776181
You dropped this.

>>378770881
It's a great game. Not the best one mind you, but pretty cool all in all.

>>378776278
>MGO2 was the best in its series though and innovative compared to a lot of multiplayer games nowadays
I agree for the most part but that absurd lag made the game worthless to me. Even trying to work with it by assuming you got a headshot and then moving on could fuck you over sometimes.

MGO3 isn't perfect by any means but I think it's pretty damn good and the lag is actually playable, but again not perfect. I also feel like the Buddy System and Fulton Balloons add a lot to the game without being broken. Can't say I'm a fan of the Walker Gears though.

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>>378771230
>MGS4
>playing

>>378770881
>just a little bit over a week until MGO2 returns
my dick

>>378776506
>PW
>good story
It ruined The Boss by making her the greatest person at everything of all time

>>378770881
It will be better in retrospective after playing 5

>>378776849
I just didnt have ps3. After ps2 I jumped to 360 and after that to ps4.

>>378776662
The premature aging thing was already there before MGS4. In MGS2 Solidus looked like old Big Boss and Liquid said something about Big Boss being copied in his 50s

>>378777276
I wish we had more stealth based multiplayer that plays like MGO in general, seeing how things ended between Kojima and Konami and MGS looking to be dead in general I don't think we'll ever see a refined version of MGO.

I would've played MGO3 if they handled it properly on PC. I ignored it not just because of the gameplay changes but mainly because of the lazy P2P multiplayer implementation that just permits hacking.

>>378771092

7 hours of cutscenes, up to 20 hours of gameplay if you take your time.

>>378771170
This is true. I didn't have a PS3 when MGS4 came out so I watched all the cutscenes on youtube to tide me over (something I had never done before or since). I thought it would be a shitty experience compared to the actual game because of all the cool TECHNOLOGY and easter eggs you expect in a MGS game, and I'd heard the gameplay was the best of the series. When I actually played it I honestly didn't feel like I got anything more out of it than I did from watching the cutscenes. It really is just a long, shitty movie with some playable interludes.

>>378771182

Yup, I was alright with it being the final game in the series (at the time I foolishly believed that it was). That final scene in the cemetery is pretty great.

>>378777787
Ocelot/Liquid even says something along the lines of "Not looking so young anymore, eh, Snake?" when he spots him in the tanker.

>>378777787
>>378778192
>The premature aging thing was already there

I'm aware, but MGS2 left a lot of open possibilities and ambiguity instead of just cementing Solid's fate like in 4.

>>378773183

It's true. A friend watched me play and timed it. As a mgs fan I didn't mind it but he was about to kill himself.

>>378770881
breakdance battle with cyber-cows with panther legs + enjoyable shitty commercials about how to survive on rat diet. Big man doing a big poo and the game couldn't get over it for a fucking hour. Disappointment of not being able to download more 4THWALLBREAKINGCOOL#COOL podcasts.
Literally, a 1 hour cutscene in a middle of the game and 2 hour cutscene at the end. Rage, lots of rage. A monkey with pampers. Chris Tucker doing a really bad Will Smith's impression. Quirky enemies with occasionally really cool enemy designes. Big motherload of guns. Clunky controls. Neverending narrative dross. Neverending narrative dross? More 4th-wall breaking moments and Hideo Kojima's model secretly wanking off behind the levels, where you can't see...

>>378778369
Not really. He would be dead by 45. Despite being younger than Solid and Liquid, even Solidus only had a few years left in MGS2.

>>378771092

I think the actual numbers are 10-12 of no interaction, and 4-5 of actual gameplay. But it is enjoyable, like a movie so bad it is good.

Heaven

>Solidus' accelerated aging was even greater than Solid and Liquid
>Solidus uses a muscle suit in MGS2
>Solid uses a muscle suit in MGS4 at the same physical age as Solidus
WHOA

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MGS4 seemed amazing when I was playing it for the first time as an impressionable teenager who took everything at face value and just enjoyed the ride, it's easily my least favourite out of the series after taking a more critical viewpoint but it's still a fun conclusion to the saga, especially considering it was never supposed to have one in the first place. They did a surprisingly decent job of tying up all the loose ends.

It has the worst concentration of Kojima bullshit in the series, just thinking about any scene involving Naomi, Vamp, Drebin, Johnny and Meryl makes me want to throw up. Liquid Ocelot just about makes it worth it, though. Do it for him.

>>378778579
Yeah but remember before MGS4 released, the events of MGS2 themselves were left open to interpretation and debate of whether it all happened or not.

Nanomachines is the answer for everything

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>>378776802
>>378779012
These are some solid posts.

>>378774104
I'm not sure sneaking is fun in the first two acts.
There are isolated sections of act 2 with good stealth but other than that it's shit.
Felt like a full-blown action game in act 1.

>>378779375
It doesn't help that the game is full of sexy lethal weaponry but only a few lame ass sleep guns.

>>378779091
It was just a wierd simulation thing set up by Ocelot, but the big shell and him taking off in Ray and Raiden fighting Solidus were all real.

>>378776613
And not paying attention.. That's how you miss relevant details that are right in your face. Not saying he missed any pertinent info at that moment, but making a habit of it will lead to missing out on things. It happens all the time on /tv/ people "watch" movies or /tv/ shows in one window and shitpost in live threads on the other. They post when "nothings happening" or it's "just people talking" then proceed to ask the most rage inducing dumb ass questions ever. Fuck I hate that board.

>>378780656
>but the big shell and him taking off in Ray and Raiden fighting Solidus were all real.

Yes except that was made true when MGS4 came out and the story declared that to all be real. Until MGS4 came out, the events that happened at Big Shell and afterward were left ambiguous.

>>378770881
only 2 of the 5 acts are sneaking around human enemies (not counting 3 since half of it is a boring trailing mission and half is pure action)
good story, a lot of contrarians don't like it, its probably the best story in the series though
a lot of cutscenes
great setpieces

Some of the best reloading animations in video games

>>378776662
>>378778369
Snakes fate is quite ambiguous at the end of 4. He's not dead at the end and the supposed deadline for his life was bullshit anyway.

>be straight with me Naomi, how long do I have left?

>I dunno lol could be weeks months or years who cares just live life

Not all that different than his fate after MGS2.

>whether it all happened or not

Plenty of things were open for debate/interpretation at the end of MGS2 but this is not one of them.

>>378781624
I don't see how it's ambiguous. Otacon wasn't just dreaming about losing his sister and Olga wasn't imaginary. It was an elaborate recreation of shadow moses but the actors themselves were real.

>>378776849
His grammar is above average for someone who is obviously ESL. Certainly not fobbish enough to bring it up like you did. I wonder how well you can type and speak in foreign languages?

>>378776849
>Why play the rest first before 4? That doesn't really make sense

Are you retarded or something?

>>378777915
>I would've played MGO3 if they handled it properly on PC
Playing Jap games on PC is suffering. Never do it. It runs well enough on consoles, if that's any consolation.

It's pretty crazy how the mid-2000's had great stealth multiplayer games between Splinter Cell and MGO2, and then they just kind of disappeared. MGO3 is nice but where's the Red vs Blue vs Snake game mode that made MGO2 so unique? Is there any other modern stealth multiplayer game out there?

>>378778042
>TECHNOLOGY and easter eggs you expect in a MGS game

It was full of it though. If you played the game thoroughly, you'd know this. It didn't have as much codec dialog as 2/3 but there was still plenty of easter eggs and shit.

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>>378781951
>>378781767
What was up with the ending sequence then? The scene where Snake and Raiden are standing in the streets of NYC looked like a dream sequence, and the pedestrians were just walking past and through Raiden and Snake as if nothing happened at all. Seemed like Raiden/the player was experiencing a VR simulation.

>>378781767
>Snakes fate is quite ambiguous at the end of 4.

There was a novel version of MGS4 that supposedly said that Solid lived long enough to see Sunny get married I think. I might be wrong but I saw somewhere that the book was considered official.

>>378782409
The tracking part of Ch2 was pretty great for this. Grabbing a Frog's crotch and the UFO site were pretty ridiculous. It's nothing you would ever find or expect to encounter on a normal playthrough though.

>>378770881

It goes really retarded towards the end but it's a legit fun experience and a much better game than Peace Walker and V

>>378770881
Long cutscenes with really good gameplay that's not utilized as much as it should have been.

Some of the best sequences in the series, but one of the most retarded plots imaginable. Trying to patch up the plot-holes left behind made this a clusterfuck.

And Akiba... hate hate Akiba.

>>378782374
>Playing Jap games on PC is suffering. Never do it.

I mean, I played Dark Souls 1 online and I only encountered a hacker once. There's exceptions.

>Is there any other modern stealth multiplayer game out there?

Not that I know of. As far as I know they're all dead. All the multiplayer games out now are either class based/MOBA shit, battle royale garbage or the same FPS shit everybody's been playing since Gen 7.

I'd say Dark Souls not even memeing and Rocket League are among the few innovative multiplayer success stories in the past decade.

>>378770881
It has alot of cutscenes, but the gameplay you get is alot of fun. Story is pretty depressing especially at the end so get ready for them feels.

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MGS 6: Foxalive restores Solid Snake's HP to full, and reverses his age, he goes and retires in Alaska, racing huskies.

>tfw no solid snake

>>378782136
I clearly meant 5 / the single mission, but okay.

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>MGS4

4 is the complete opposite of V
All plot and no gameplay and fanservice, while V is all gameplay and no plot while shitting on fans

The gameplay alone without the cutscenes is longer than the entire COD4 game, for example. But cool guys on /v/ say it's A LE MOVIE LE LE FUNNY LE MOVIE LE LE so LE RETARD U LE RETARD)))

Why would you even ask dude seriously. People 90 % of people here don't even know what a good game is.

Have to be honest, back in the day the graphics were really fucking good for a 2008 "POWER OF THE CELL" game

>>378785857
To be honest my only desire of V was to hear Zero's side of the story, and was not disappointed. The rest of the game however was rather disappointing, but at least I got what I wanted

>>378770881
I unironically enjoyed this game. It's the only MGS game I could get into enough to see it all the way through. I played it when it was new and at the time was pretty blown away by the visuals even though I know it was still being held back by console hardware limitations.

3>V>4>1>2>Rising>PW>PO>MG2>MG1

Sorry

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>Big Boss Emblem run for the Platinum trophy
>NG+ in Middle East and South America
>Trying to speedrun everything
>European bike chase


very very fucking intense. Felt like I was trying to send the Apollo 13 astronauts home.