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Still the king after all these years

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Still the king after all these years
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Wrong picture. You want Final Fantasy VI.
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>>378768405

*Tips fedora*
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>>378767726
>not even the best ps1 Final Fantasy
Lmao
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>>378767726
>"Let's follow that edgy guy for the next 35 hours!"
Boring game and shit story. only good thing is the materia system.
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SMT Nocturne and FF7 are the only JRPG's I've enjoyed.
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>>378767726
*blocks your path*
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>>378769012
materia system suck too.
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>>378767726
Maybe not King but I'd still put it on my top 10 of all time
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>>378767726
Still the best RPG of all time.

>>378768940
VIII and IX are trash.

>>378769302
Meme trash.
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It was never the king.
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>>378771401
>Meme trash.
Literally kill yourself.
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>>378771585
This game was great but I don't understand all you memesters who say it's the best ever.
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Sad, but true.

You'd think another game would have beat the shit out of it by now.

Yet, here we are - we will be lucky if the remake is any better than the original. What a sad state.
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I love being patrician and capable of understanding why VIII is objectvely the best.
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>>378772419
>Memesters
Can you talk like a human being?

And it's universally praised because it nailed everything important. Great story, great characters, great mechanics, great music. Every other jrpg could come close, but they always dropped the ball somewhere, either with a shit soundtrack or lame characters etc. CT is the only one that hit everything perfectly.
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>>378772886
Yeah, because it coddled you in your angsty teenage years.

Fuck off.
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>>378771585
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>>378773013
Great by anime fans' standards, perhaps.

And no, that combat is awful.
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>>378767726
King of shit, maybe.
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>>378773128
>Discussing jrpgs
>Anime fan standards
Wew lad
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>>378772842
What do you think was the best game before FFVII existed?
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>>378773128
>Great by anime fans' standards, perhaps.
THIS

Retarded design, story and characters.
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I'll leave this here.
Come back when you can put up a fight
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>>378773013
>Can you talk like a human being?
Where do you think you are?
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>>378767726
Trash game hyped by oldfag/Granpa
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>>378774153
How young are you? I was in high school when this came out. I don't even think of it as that old.
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I guarantee you 95% of the posters here haven't touched the game in 5 years
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FF7 costed more and X almost sold as much as 7

Its objectively a better game and it's other game is better than the psp game for FF7
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>>378773038
>projecting this hard

that's really all the game is to you eh?
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Sorry bro but FF6 is and always has been better

>B b-but muh sephiroth and aerith
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>>378768405
FFVI sucks once you get to World of Ruin
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>>378773128
this
chrono trigger is THE most overrated game in the history of video games
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>>378773675
Yeah really had a GREAT storyline, no wide open spaces of nothing either.
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>faggots be talking about FF6, ignoring FF9 is the superior game of the series
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>>378774802
No it doesn't.
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>>378767726

>Delicious Cloud trap
>All the girls want Cloud
>Villain wears a trench coat with super long katana and wants to murder people because scientist took his mother

It's honesty the best FF.
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as someone who has only ever played 7 and 10, I can say 7 is the best game in the series

i did watch about an hour of 9 on youtube as well
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>>378767726
I liked FF5 more even on my first play through of 7 on release
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How are the steam versions of 7 8 and 9?
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>/v/ tells me to avoid FFX
>it's actually pretty good
You guys are cheeky sometimes
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>>378774338
kids today think vhs and cassette tapes are from the 1920s
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>>378774542
Played it last year. It was good.
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>>378775075
>Villain wears a trench coat with super long katana and wants to murder people because scientist took his mother
He literally teleports behind Aerith too. I wonder if it was personal.
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>>378767726
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NGK_pgKoUU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMvHTlWyxH0
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>>378767726
>Xenogears was going to be FF7
>Square Enix said it was too complicated for something like Final Fantasy
>FF7 combat is amazingly fucking generic

wew lad
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The best there ever is

7babbys can kill themselves
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>>378767726
>Still the king
Yeah,king of plebs,go away normalfag

>>378769302
It's bad nostalgiafag
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>>378776725
No, Xenogears was going to be FF8.
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>>378776971
How can other games compete?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxJE6SSX-aw
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>>378777357
Check your facts bud
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Not so fast...
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>>378776971
>no worldmap
>no ATB
>sphere grid makes every character the same
>annoying MC
>story more retarded than VIII's
>soulless environment
>soulless music
>walking simulator
Zero redeeming qualities.
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>>378777707
>no ATB
You understand that's a good thing, I hope.
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>>378777707
>hating on turn based

why don't you just go play ff15
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>>378777903
I did. It's better than X in every way. Still shit though.
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Sorry I took so long...
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>>378777707
>sphere grid makes every character the same

You mean if you choose it that way, whats wrong with full customisation?
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>>378778215
Final Fantasy XV is the worst JRPG I've ever played and I've played them all.
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>>378778497
It has funny glitches and cool characters. And best villain. And will be good when it's finally finished.
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9 is better.
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>>378778497
XV is a mess but I still enjoyed it
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>>378778652
>And will be good when it's finally finished.
Do we know when and who the next DLC will be released and about?
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>>378779090
Ignis DLC will be released spring 2019. Prompto DLC will be bundled with Final Fantasy XX
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>>378767726
Anime-pandering garbage game.
I would rather play FFXV.
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>>378779212
>Final Fantasy XX
>Not Final Fantasy XXX
The thirtienth FF will be the perfect Artifical Academy game, where you can do anything with all of the Final Fantasy characters and their versions.
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>>378778928
I think the hype killed it for people. I got it while knowing virtually nothing about it and it's development and I thought it was a pretty good game.
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>>378767726
>The entirety of Disc 2
>King

No.
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>"rpg"
>no choices
>no character building
>no alternate ways to complete tasks
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>Final Fantasy
>Chrono Trigger / Cross
>Xenogears
>MegaTen

Move the fuck out of the way for the one, true King of JRPGs
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>>378780842
What should we call JRPGs? ActionVisualNovels?
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>>378780849
>Not posting the most ludo JRPG ever made
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>>378767726
viii is better not even joking
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>>378780991
visual novels with grinding or just JGrinders for short
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>>378781028
Friendly reminder to report any and all VIII apologists.
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>>378781024
I think I played a demo of this when I was a kid. I kinda want to play it now but I don't feel like emulating and playing on the pc.
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>>378771401
>>378768405
>>378772886

Why do people that clearly never played PS1 or earlier jrpgs come to jrpg threads?
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>>378781269
Whatever.
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>>378780842
>words are defined by my definition, not by how they're used
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>>378781269
Whatever.
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>>378781525
yes?
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>>378781635
That's just not how it works friend.
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>>378767726
King of overrated games.
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>>378781683
just like how jrpgs have no rpg elements
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>>378781360
I would recommend one of the two Frontier games over Unlimited if it's your first time with the series.
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>>378767726
>Still the king after all these years

Don't you know it
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>>378773013
>JRPG
>Shit soundtrack
Name three.
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>>378767726
>>378769302
Nice try guys.
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>>378781978
Trick question all of them. weebs just hear generic orchestral shit and assume its a masterpiece
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>>378781898
Wrong.
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The evolution of Final Fantasy:
FF1
>Ultima and Wizardry are popular in Japan, lets combine the two.
FF2
>It's too obvious we had zero original ideas in the previous game, let's do everything in literally the opposite way.
FF3
>Shit, that ended up really bad. Let's just remake the first with more classes.
FF4
>We are literally out of ideas. Looks like everyone forgot the second game, let's reuse half the story stuff from there, and gameplay from the third.
FF5
>You know what? We should just outright remake the third one, people liked that.
FF6
>It's time the reuse the other half of the story from the second game. Use the gamplay of the fourth game, it's popular.
FF7
>That turned out good! Let's do that again, but make it modern looking, that way they won't suspect anything!
FF8
>Damn, they ate it all up! Let's do it again. Tweak around with the gameplay a little, we are geniuses anyway.
FF9
>Shit, gameplay turned to shit. We should grab them by the nostalgia balls and make a generic fantasy anime with references to earlier titles, they will eat it up!
FF10
>Well, looks like anime crap is selling well. This time, make a more japanese looking anime. I don't care if it doesn't even resemble older titles.
FF11
>You know what sells these days? MMOs.
FF12
>Shit, we are out of ideas again. You know what? let's throw it to the Ivalice guys, no one will notice that it's not even an FF game, they only care about the title.
FF13
>Holy shit, they really only care about the title. Let's remake ten, with more modern looks, so those who liked the seventh game will buy this.
FF14
>You know what brings more money than an MMO? Two MMOs. You don't have to make it fun, just slap Final Fantasy on the game.
FF15
>Shit, out of ideas again! Oh well, this faggot is making a game, just take it and slap FF15 on it and sell it unfinished!
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>>378781769
Do you complain when a Bullethell game doesn't take place in hell too?
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>>378782016
Steam port of this game when??
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>>378773675
Majora's Mask was better.
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>>378782217
This guy gets it
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>>378782945
Most ebin shitpost ive seen today, really made me think, thanks anon
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>>378783845
At which point it's not true?
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>>378780849
If it had more content, then it'd most certainly be the best.
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>>378783620
There does exist a pc port, only difference beside controls obviously is it uses a new font for whatever reason. Was released in Japan and Europe only.
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>>378773675
>FFVII vs OoT

It was an actual debate at the time which was better and/or more influential.

To think people tried to start the same with Horizon and BotW.
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But it does anon. Did you not get to the second disk?
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>>378785274
Meant for >>378783982
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>>378781419
>Saying VIII is best
>CLEARLY NEVER PLAYED PS1

wut
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>>378783154
He complains when a first person game isn't about him personally.
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>>378767726
>Who are you?
>I'm you but stronger
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>>378785875
>i'm you but even worst.
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>>378785875
>Sephiroth has one wing

Yeah, that was my favorite part that didn't fucking happen in the game.
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>>378785989
But he had one wing in KH.
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>>378769302
long and uninteresting cutscenes: the game
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>>378785982
Speak English you fucking weeaboo
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>>378785875
I honestly think it will be better than the original, but all the nostalgiafags will shit on it. Episodic releas also doesn't help.
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>>378786060
So it's a Kingdom Hearts remake?

Oh wait
>Nomura
I really wish he'd go through with killing himself.
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>>378773013
game might not excel in anything, but it's pretty consistent in its quality.
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>>378786165
>Combat like XV
>Better than the original
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>>378773675
>LTTP
>RPG
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>>378786380
No, combat will be lik Versus XIII
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>>378786380
>Combat like XV
But that's wrong
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>>378786146
worse*
>he plays FF games
>call others weaboo
LMAO
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>>378780849
is this good
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>>378785875
How does episodic release work? If I want to go back to point on the world map that was on a previous episode, I simply can't? Or the episodes automatically combine and you can access both episodes content anytime?
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>>378781360
Why not? It's so simple, you're just standing in your own way
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>>378776708

Damn. Neat.
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>>378786663
Yes but it's also a casual filter.
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>>378786464
>the only rpgs I've played are pokemon and final fantasy 7! :DDDD
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>>378786380
The guy behind XV's combat literally said 'screw Nomura's ideas, I'm old and tired, I want a combat system that works with one button'
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>>378786815
Reminder that Forested Temple copies a Pink Floyd song and Shinra, Inc. copies a Led Zeppelin song.
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To the naysayers I dare you to post one game more culturally relevant than FFVII
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>>378786835
I love jrpgs I 'll try this out
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>>378787024
Tetris.
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>>378786481
>>378786504
It's been literally confirmed that they're going with an action system akin to what was in XV, the game is already down to a 5/10 max because of that.
>>378787059
Don't be afraid to use a guide at points, the game is incredibly nonlinear and sometimes you'll have no idea what the fuck to do.
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>>378773452
Best RPG? Hell, I don't know, FFV? I'm sure something was the best before that.

>>378774778
Yeah, a bunch of melodramatic story and little else. This shit was CW before CW hit the mainstream.
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>>378786698
They haven't said anything more than "each part is equal in scale to FFXIII"

Although it's kind of expected you'll be able to backtrack since it was possible way back in PS2 episodic RPGs like .hack
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>>378787119
NO STORY OR GREAT MUSIC, SORRY
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>>378787127
>an action system akin to what was in XV
That doesn't automatically mean bad. And it's not a copy paste of XV's combat.
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>>378775029
Yeah, it does. That's where I dropped the game, too, when I first played it a few years ago. I was already struggling to give a damn about any of the characters.
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>>378787127
>It's action so it's going to be like _____
FFVII Remake confirmed for Souls-like gameplay :^)
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>>378787185
You didn't specify you needed those too. Then Super Mario.
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I played this game for the first time about four years ago when I was 20 (so no nostalgia) on my friend's psp. I got maybe half way through and had a lot of fun with it.
I played through the whole thing a few months ago on emulator and it was real good.
The end game was awful though, even with speedups I couldn't make it through the endgame bosses. Real letdown.
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>>378787582
>even with speedups I couldn't make it through the endgame bosses.
You are weak, you have to finish a game even if you don't like it. You have to play it untill you like it.
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>>378774802
Tha's when the game gets GOOD, wtf man? A JRPG that actually gets open and without a typical epic fantasy for children, and you cal it the worst part.
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>>378787241
>That doesn't automatically mean bad.
Have you played XV?
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>>378789285
I mean action doesn't mean automatically bad. And I doubt it will be a copy of XV.
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>>378789859
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>>378767726
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>>378767726
I watched Spoony's review. Pretty shitty game.
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>>378790153
Any game that had a marketing budget higher than it's development cost should be shunned and never bought.
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>>378790419
What if it's good?
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>>378774721
FF7 grew the genre's audience. FFX wouldn't have been nearly as successful without FF7.
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>>378790497
Then you don't need that much marketing, word of mouth is enough. I'm not saying marketing is bad, but paying three times the development costs is too much.
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>>378790847
And FF7 would never exist without previous FFs, and FF1 would never exist without D&D. Its a retarded argument.
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>>378788382
Because the gameplay implodes and becomes full on broken in so many different ways. You have to avoid 90% of the WoR AND deliberately not use several mechanics to make the gameplay tolerable, and that's fucking bullshit.

Not that it was particularly good before that point. Atma Weapon is a fairly shitty fight by FFV standards.
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Playing through the New Threat mod now, thoughts on it?
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>>378771585
Neither was CT
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>>378791925
Waaaaaaaaaay better than vanilla in every way except for the plot change. It's not even funny how much simple things like making stats matter and giving characters builds and different roles and making the enemies in the game actually fight back improves it, to say nothing of the cutscene skips.
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>>378792001
Do we ever get those V and VI remakes they promised almost a decade ago?
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>>378792125
We sure did :^)
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>>378792291
Fuck this gay Earth.
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>>378769302
literally unfinished:the game
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>>378792373
Maybe XV was a spiritual successor to Xenogears.
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>>378777903
15 is a million times better.
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>>378792373
No, that's >>378780849
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>>378792373
Still good.
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Best Final Fantasy.
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>>378778497
Fuck off retard it's better than any other FF and KH.
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>>378792479
Xenogears is novel as fuck though, whereas XV has the second worst JRPG story ever.
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>>378792690
This isn't a thread about XV you fucking faggot, get the fuck out.
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>>378792690
>xv-kun
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>>378779090
Prompto episode dlc should be releasing around the 30th of this month.
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>>378792690
>that Ursula headbang while listening to Combichrist
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>>378787778
By 'endgame' I meant Emerald weapon and stuff. I should've been more specific. Seriously I don't know how anyone could grind enough for that stuff. I did nemesis in ffx, but at least your going to different areas throughout.
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>>378785875
7 Cloud has more muscle than 7R Cloud, hell even Prompto does.
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>>378792837
Cool, will it cover the events after Ardyn captures him on the train?
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UH OH
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>>378792119
Yeah I'm enjoying it anyways, gave it some new juice
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>>378792909
Emerald Weapon is extremely easy. Just load up Barret with Missing Score and materia and leave everyone else with very little so they don't get murdered by Aire Tam Storm, let them support him, bam, he'll murder him long before the clock runs down.

It's Ruby that requires more effort.
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>>378792974
to be fair early game cloud was just broken out of a mako tank he was floating in for a while and then dragged across the world
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>>378786380
Why do you keep posting your cherrypicked webms? Average fight has you actually doing stuff

>>378786973
Nope, that was proven wrong a week later.
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>>378792727
What's the worst?
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Best SNES JRPG coming through.
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>>378793207
Star Ocean 4
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>>378787127
7R looks nothing like XV, if it did it'd actually be good.

>>378789285
Seriously fuck off you utter cunt.
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>>378793301
>Seriously fuck off you utter cunt.
>the ban evading faggot who just came into the thread 10 minutes ago to scream at people who disagree with him is telling people to fuck off
kill yourself
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>>378792837
Wait that is supposed to be a man?
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>>378792790
Yeah it's about JRPGs and you're getting destroyed because you're desperately trying to shit on XV again like a little bitch.

>>378792727
XV has one of the best stories, cast, lore and villain in any JRPG. Only two JRPG can make a person cry because of how emotional the ending is and that's Mother 3 and FFXV.
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>>378768405
FF VI has better characters, writing, and equipment system

But materia > magicite and Tifa is the best FF girl
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>>378792837
Is this the new Life is Strange?
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>XV-kun ban evaded AGAIN
holy shit
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>>378793056
yeah it's what happened to him between falling off the train and ending up in zegnautus keep
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But what's a king to a god?
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>>378793631
I hope you are a paid SE shill, because if you do this for free, you are either braindead or an idiot.
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>>378793631
FFX and NieR have sadder endings than XV though.
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>>378793650
>Tifa
Quistis is the best.
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>>378793439
What ban am I evading? I'm not even banned you triggered faggot.
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>>378793847
>But what's a king to a god?
A fucking.
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>>378767726
but that's not FF IV...

I am talking about the ds version in case you are wondering
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>>378793596
see >>378792974
more than Cloud at least
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>>378793987
>I'm not ban evading I swear
Get out
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>>378794052
>TFW not a single battle theme in XV as good as this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B08Nhzrp41c
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>>378773013
O hai, are you the guy from the last thread? Post some prose from Xenogears to send to my writer friend. I forgot, but he's online now.
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>>378793853
I hope you are a paid anti shill, because if you do this for free, you are either braindead or an idiot
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>>378792598
>>378792690
Ok XV-kun, i'll bite. What did you like about it?
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>>378790153
How they got money for all that?
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>>378793936
No they don't. Anything in X is undercut by X-2 pop idol shit
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>>378767726
I just finished playing through this game for the first time recently. Easiest game of my entire life. Got a bit boring towards the end.
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>>378794110
Stop ban evading.
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>>378794152
muh nigga

although to be fair, you can play that song in the car in XV
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>>378794301
From all of the successful FF games prior to that? I mean, FFV and FFVI both sold over 2m copies on the SNES/SFC and those games sold for like 70-80 dollars. Then there's all the oddball games Square was putting out at the time that still made a profit. They'd easily have that much money.

Plus they nuked the budgets for SaGa Frontier and Xenogears while making VII.
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>>378794152
>Tfw not a single jrpg battle theme is as good as Hellfire
https://youtu.be/L6TycTt7DzY
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>>378794301
Sony
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>>378794342
>Anything in X is undercut by X-2 pop idol shit
>He says this while the FFXV cast is literally Japan's nu Backstreet Boys

Come on man
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>>378793847
What is a god, to a nonbeliever?
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>>378794560
This is terrible, what the fuck are you on?
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>>378793631
At its best FFX is more emotional than FFXV will ever be.
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>>378794271
Ok here's how this is going to go down, I'm gonna list things then you're just going to say one by one everything is shit anyway. Go be triggered somewhere else
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>>378794593
EVERYBODY
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>>378794467
That, Sunleth Waterscape and Over the Hill are GOAT car music.
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>>378794271
Story, characters, music, art. Gameplay is meh.
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>>378793631
You must be missing right? FFXV was good, and the story as well, but the pacing for the last chapters was terrible, resulting in a sad ending that felt super rushed. You couldn't possibly cry from that. Sad? sure. Cry? No way.

M3 is true.
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>>378794593
At least pretend you've played XV.

>>378794661
You didn't even listen to it and it's obvious you're just the faggot from earlier triggered by XV anyway.

>>378794665
No, the final campfire scene in XV has more emotional impact than any other scene in any FF.
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>>378794342
How can a later game retroactively undercut a previous one? It was top tier while X-2 didn't exist?
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>>378794860
>emotional impact than any other scene in any FF.
Aeris' death, Vivi's monologue at the end of IX and X's ending are the holy trinity of emotional FF scenes.
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>>378794665
I cried at the very end when Yuna was whistling on the bridge. Tidus is the man, I get the haters, but he's the fucking man. Not so much that he's super cliche chessey though, which makes him more of the man.
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>>378794537
>>378794574
Makes sense that Sony collaborated with marketing money considering some of its ads were pretty much an anti N64 campaign but I though FFVIII was the one that ate the budget of other games.
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>>378794837
Rushed or not it had enough setup and payoff for the ending to be very emotional, I've seen countless playthroughs on youtube and twitch where people cried at the ending too.
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>>378794860
>generic orchestral music
>best JRPG battle theme ever
I get the feeling you don't play JRPGs.
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>>378781978
Legend of Legaia
Blue Dragon
Any Star Ocean
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>>378794642
The final arbiter.
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>>378782945
final fantasy proven to be the cancer of console gaming world

thanks for this
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>>378794593
Except he's right. In 2001 X's ending was one of the saddest i'd ever seen. Cut to '03 and we've got FF: barbie dress up edition. The happy ending isn't bad really, but the tonal shift is super jarring. At least XV was semi-consistent with shit rolling down hill. Outside of the dlc events of course.
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>>378795017
X in general had some of the most memorable moments of the series desu, that's why it's still good along with having great gameplay.
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>>378787059
You should. Anyone who love JRPG's and hasn't played the SaGa series is doing themselves a disservice, especially considering how old the series is.
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>>378794987
Because it undercuts anything that happened just from its existence, and the ending itself isn't even sad because Tidus is unlikable and only a handful of characters even are likeable, whereas all the cast in XV are likeable.

>>378794995
Final campfire scene topped all of those.
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>>378794995
What about Coin toss from VI and the prince's death in II?
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>>378795220
>At least XV was semi-consistent with shit rolling down hill.
Pic related.

But seriously anyone who thinks XV's ending even comes close to when Tidus jumps off the airship and highfives Jecht and the camera pans to see him with Auron and Braska needs to be banned.
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>>378795103
Look man you can stop embarrassing yourself.
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>>378795269
The entire cast in XV is underdeveloped and boring.

Except Ignis. He deserved to be in a game that was actually good.
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>>378795079
>I've seen countless playthroughs on youtube and twitch where people cried at the ending too.
Those people also cry at probably anything.
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>>378795079
I literally wish I felt that way. I mean, if I did, I would have an awesome memory of a great story. I can think back on the fun game!e, but storywise I can only think of what could have been
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>>378795132
That's not really proof... not even really close to proof, that's what they call an opinion. A nicely embellished one though.
Shouldn't they be teaching these things in school? Since 2nd or 3rd grade?
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>>378795331
Haven't played II and from what I hear I'm not missing much.

As for the Coin Toss it just didn't hit me as much as the other three but it's still leagues ahead of XV's ending.
Christ, when Squall and Rinoa were in space was more emotional than XV's ending.
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>>378795332
XVs ending is a billion times better than anything in X, you need a ban yourself.
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>>378795343
I'm not embarrassing myself for shit, you're the one claiming that that song is the best JRPG battle theme ever.
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>>378795269
So you say if XV is made and is happy-go-lucky with everyone getting resurrected, you will start hating XV? You can't be that much of a retard.
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>>378795385
No they're more developed than other FF casts and the only ones to feel and act like real people and real bros. Prompto's arc is plenty similar to Vivi's too.
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>>378794674
No, i'm truly interested you cunt. I want to see why people say it was good instead of decent/bad.

>>378794809
The music, art, and a few of the characters I can agree on, but the story just didn't grab me. Too many holes and shitty production decisions.
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>>378795456
>butthurt final fantasy fanboy weeb virgin detected
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>>378795438
>t-that doesn't count!

>>378795470
Man you're trying too hard, not a single moment in any FF is on the level of emotional impact that the final campfire has.
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>>378795484
>XVs ending is a billion times better than anything in X
Literally no one thinks this though.
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>>378795484
At least X made sense. XV's ending was just them throwing anything they could think of onto the screen to make the end longer.
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>>378795651
>Too many holes and shitty production decisions.
Like what? Disc 2?
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>>378795548
Because it is and it's obvious you havnt even listened to it nor did you even bother following the chain of posts.
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>>378795773
>not a single moment in any FF is on the level of emotional impact that the final campfire has.
Going through Oerba with Dust to Dust playing in XIII > campfire scene in XV.
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King of Second Place to OoT that is.
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>>378795773
You sound like someone whose first JRPG was XV.
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>>378795924
>Because it is
Compelling argument you gave, really sums up every argument you have ever made on why xv is great. Can we get some "the irony" or some "no u" posts next too?
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>>378795592
First of all that wouldn't happen because the devs actually respect the ending, second of all there's a very clear gradual shift from carefree at the start to depressing and serious things by the end that is well built up. Even the carnival DLC fits as its before shit goes down.

X-2 doesn't respect X, it doesn't respect the tone X set.
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>>378795694
I've played a few of them. The III remake on DS, VII, VIII for like a minute, IX, for like a minute, X a lot, XIII a lot. They're pretty good. Weeb? Not really, I only watch generic anime shit, usually when I'm drunk. Attack on Titan, One punch Man, One piece, that kinda shit.
Not a virgin either... damn man, wrong on all points, nice coc though.
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>>378774802
FACT

Went from candidate to third best FF including spinoffs to barely being in the top 10 at that point.

What were they thinking!?
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>>378795924
I literally just listened to it. I think the only battle theme I like less than it in the entire series is VI's.
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>>378796192
>X-2 doesn't respect X, it doesn't respect the tone X set.
And how does that make X worse?
>the devs actually respect the ending
You do know that there were talks about changes to the ending in later story patches?
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>>378795625
They really aren't done any better or worse than any other FF. The only difference is that you constantly hear them talk and joke around during set pieces or after a fight, giving them a stronger connection to the player. FF6 did that by having set pieces where characters broke off and helped each other. If you put the game on mute with no subtitles and skipped the on tour missions would prompto or gladiolus still be well developed? There character wasn't really developed during the main quest, it's just who they are. You'd get the same amount of info from a character introduction in a booklet.
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>>378795781
Literally everyone thinks that.

>>378795831
At least XVs ending makes sense of a king righting the wrongs of his ancestors and bidding farewell to his lifelong friends, Xs was just a clusterfuck of "we only met a few weeks ago but I'm a dream~"
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>>378794560
Hellfire isn't even top 10 Final Fantasy battle themes.

>Battle With Four Friends
>Battle at the Big Bridge
>Dancing Mad
>JENOVA
>Birth of a God
>Man With the Machine Gun
>The Extreme
>Challenge
>Blinded by Light
>Veiled in Black
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>>378773128
>>378773513
>>378774883

There isn't a JRPG out there that has a good story if you don't think anime stories are top tier.
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>>378795953
You're getting desperate there, final campfire scene simply is the pinnacle of emotional scenes in FF. No one gives a fuck about 13.
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>>378796376
>The Prequels don't make the Star Wars franchise worse

When you fuck with a part of a story, you fuck with the entirety of it.
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>>378796403
>Literally everyone thinks that.
Sure, just pretend that 99% of people that played it doesn't exist.
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>>378796093
No I'm someone who's played more JRPGs than you can count and am more informed on the subject than you.

>>378796145
No matter what I say you're just going to try and say it's shit anyway so fuck you you hypocritical fuck.
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>>378796597
>The Prequels don't make the Star Wars franchise worse
>franchise
There is a big difference. X2 made the 'X series' worse, but not X itself. SW franchise is worse, but the prequels didn't make the original trilogy worse.
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>>378796681
Fucking called it
Keep repeating yourself with the same shallow arguments and catchphrases though, maybe someday someone as retarded as you will share your delusional opinions
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>>378796540
>If we exclude FF 1-14, 15 is the best FF!
You are a fucking retard.
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>>378796192
>gradual shift
>build up
Are you kidding me? You spend 8 hours fucking around in the open world before the plot immediately shifts into overdrive between chapter 8 and chapter 9. The pacing in both halves was piss poor, likely because of the shortness of every chapter, and every plot point is so poorly explored that none of them seem to be interconnected.
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>>378796681
>No I'm someone who's played more JRPGs than you can count
マジwww
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>>378781419
Nice meme
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>>378796347
No you didn't you contrarian fuck, it's obvious you're the fuckhead that posted the snake webm earlier in this thread so eat shit you pedantic cunt.

>>378796376
Because X-2 is canon to X and if shit in X-2 is what happens next it just cheapens everything from X.

You might want to check your sources because there is no new endings being made, the 'endings' was only in relation about how Ignis's dlc episode for example would end, not the main game ending.
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>>378795867
>disc 2
I feel like we're not talking about the same thing. I meant XV. For example:

>cutting out insomnia
>raves not showing up to help luna during altissia when the cutscene before showed him there
>the altissia fight being so underwhelying compared to trailer footage
>cor's absence being written off as him spying on absent nifleheim army.
>the lack of ANY insomnia inVashon survivors other than iris, talbot, or the old man I forgot.
[Spoiler] the crystal absorbing noctis instead of it absorbing the ring of the lucii, which was supposed to hold it's power [/spoiler]

The list goes on, man
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>>378797262
ctrl+s anon
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>>378797174
Hellfire is pretty good but it's not THAT good. XV's OST was lackluster in general compared to past soundtracks.
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>>378797174
I haven't posted any webms in this thread, fuck off retard.
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>>378796397
>if you skipped and ignore all this character building stuff then they have no development?!
The fuck kind of argument is this?

Seriously man even Aranea has as much development as say Beatrix does.
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>>378797262
And fuck typing on this fucking phone, jesus fucking christ.
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>>378796410
>Veiled in Black
>not the Cleigne theme
Looks like you both have shit tastes.

ViB sounds too much like that other song played in Leide. I can barely differentiate the two in my head.
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>>378793171
That mako tank was designed to make him physically on par with Soldier members.
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>>378796410
Hellfire is easily the top spot now on the FF battle themes list, Ravus Aeterna and Veiled in Black both placing high too.
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>>378797373
Character building that failed to go anywhere. They're just walking archetypes, really.
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I've been listening to the FF8 OST for the last few days. The last OST I listened to was FF13, what happened /v/?
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>>378797174
>Because X-2 is canon to X and if shit in X-2 is what happens next it just cheapens everything from X.
Literally how?
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>>378776708
The depths of lore to Cloud's existentialism.

Also WTF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyLD9bydXEk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7wJ8pE2qKU
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>>378796643
You sure are.
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>>378797512
Ultra shit taste.
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>>378797513
Not to mention that the characters act downright stupid and irrational at times.

>>378797535
What are you trying to say? XIII's soundtrack was great.
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>>378768940
>best PS1 Final Fantasy
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>>378797595
>It's another 'underage doesn't know what the Rite of Spring is' post
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>>378797648
It was just okay. The composition for 8 was much better. Do you know if 15 has decent music? I'm scared to check at this point.
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>>378797262
>I feel like we're not talking about the same thing. I meant XV
Yep, I was talking about Xenogears. I know nothing about FFXV.
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>>378797595
>This fucking obvious theft.
Will they let it slide just because he stole it from a japanese composer?
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>>378797373
Hence the reason I said during the main quest. I liked aranea, very pleasant twist sonce I thought she was going to be a recurring antagonist from the trailers.
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>>378797305
It's pretty good.
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>>378796912
Fucking called it, you're just going to keep spouting the same shitposts because you can't deal with other peoples opinions. You're ready to call any defense of anything that goes against your argument shit then when people call you out for doing that you pretend you have some high ground because you spouted shit out your ass. You're fucking predictable and pathetic.
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>>378797757
It's not Shimomura's best. Out of a 90+ track OST, only about 10 songs are pretty good.
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>>378767726 >>378769302 >>378771585 >>378773675 >>378776971 >>378780849 >>378782016 >>378782217 >>378797305
Step the fuck off.
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>>378797929
Shimomura hasn't been good since PS2 to be honest, her SNES stuff is where it's at.
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>>378797929
I'll wait on it then. It's not like I don't have a large enough backlog already without it.
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>>378797905
>literally goes to "no u" arguments again like I said he would
so dumb
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>>378797595
Guess we should sue Busta rhymes too

https://youtu.be/Rtn06ZW9Xm0
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>>378798023
Her work for The Last Ranker was great, it's just her modern Squenix stuff that is shit because she's forced to do samey stuff.
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>>378797768
Oh, xenogears has it's issues, but even with the rushed part of disc 2 it's still GOAT tier.
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>>378773675
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>>378798023
>he hasn't played the mario & luigi games
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>>378798254
>Her work for The Last Ranker was great
Mind linking me some songs, have honestly never heard of it.
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>>378798335
Bottom looks like a Witcher mod.
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>>378797595
>>378776708
You don't know the half of it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1crvxM2ftE
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>>378793936
FFXV had the worst ending. Tidus doesn't even actually die in FFX if you watch past the credits. In FFXV, everyone literally fucking dies. So stupid.
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>>378794560
Literally every single Ys boss theme and every single SaGa battle theme is better than that.
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>>378787024

Street Fighter.

And hold up FFVII isn't even the top 5 PS1 games.
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>>378793172
how does he fly?
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>>378792690
Geez now you made even more webms just to shitpost? You know the general rule in KH is that big bosses don't stagger right? You usually get them in a down state after certain amount of HP or after a RC, but smaller enemies and all humanoid bosses stagger. Not like you care of course
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>>378798405
>have honestly never heard of it.
Really?
That's awful, it's a pretty decent and short JRPG too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRjonbW43Wo&list=PL8Bij2BVObw84k_F_GTta3hKFr5o-XvYk&index=32
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7mFu5hBrTM&list=PL8Bij2BVObw84k_F_GTta3hKFr5o-XvYk&index=35
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b92XyteK2Pg&list=PL8Bij2BVObw84k_F_GTta3hKFr5o-XvYk&index=12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbs6-BnNdO8&list=PL8Bij2BVObw84k_F_GTta3hKFr5o-XvYk&index=15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Nb5NnZYasI&list=PL8Bij2BVObw84k_F_GTta3hKFr5o-XvYk&index=23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1chynuf1zH8&list=PL8Bij2BVObw84k_F_GTta3hKFr5o-XvYk&index=2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ7CUiDRIq0&list=PL8Bij2BVObw84k_F_GTta3hKFr5o-XvYk&index=4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lRxD8RMR8E&list=PL8Bij2BVObw84k_F_GTta3hKFr5o-XvYk&index=7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXNO69PUcUg&list=PL8Bij2BVObw84k_F_GTta3hKFr5o-XvYk&index=10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7tXL0NyvK8&list=PL8Bij2BVObw84k_F_GTta3hKFr5o-XvYk&index=14
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>>378798994
I thought XV had better bosses to be honest, can't top that Leviathan fight.
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>>378799090
Same, what an amazing interactive cutscene. Seriously though even the Levi fight in FF14 looks and plays better
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>>378796960
No one's ignoring anything, it just simply is.

>>378796965
You must not have been paying attention, ch starts carefree and you get the first glimpses of the serious side of the story, you meet a mysterious man at a beach resort then the true path is set when insomnia falls, ch2-3 buildup more of the world and establish characters, learning of the gods, tombs, staying ahead of the empire, ch4-8 has increased pace now as you fighting the empire bases, fighting one of the gods, getting summons, fighting more and more daemons as you notice that day time is starting later and later each chapter, you learn more of the grand scheme relating to daemons and the empire while also learning partially who Ardyn really is. ch9 has you then head to your next destination and fight the second god and there's a character death which had been subtly alluded to happening, as the rest of the chapters start increasing in pace again with repercussions from ch9 incident coming into play, the nights getting even longer still, things have become more serious now, more and more daemons about to the point where the empire is overrun with daemons by the time you get there, Ardyn reveals who he truly is and the path leading to the end is set in motion, following his disappearance the world fell into ruin for 10 years as the source of the longer nights, the plague was from Ardyn. You return to the beach resort from the beginning to find it overrun with daemons and you head to Insomnia for the battle against the final god and Ardyn who's been waiting, it all culminates there.

There is a very clear buildup and trajectory from carefree to serious that the story takes, it's not a sudden shift midway of tone, things are getting serious even before they go to Altissia.
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Final Fantasy XV PC release when?
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Oh the guy that hates every videogame that isn't XV is back
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>>378799023
Well thanks for informing me of it, I'll definitely check it out.
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>>378799387
Holy shit joe got fat
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>>378799502
And that's not even a recent image
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>>378797262
Noctis absorbed the crystals light into the ring. Everything you said is just a nitpick.
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>>378799553
When, exactly?
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>>378797757
15 has the best battle theme's in FF.
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>ctrl+f "xv"
Everytime
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>>378798057
Like I said, predictable.

>>378798654
But it has the best ending and only Noctis died.
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>>378799758
That's VIII though.
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>>378798752
Nope, not even close.

>>378798994
But you're going to ignore when the smaller and humanoid enemies in XV all stagger but just because big bosses and large enemies sometimes don't that's a no no, I posted that against the faggot who's trying to shit on XV for lack of enemy hitstun.

>>378799090
Seriously fuck off
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>>378799553
>wanting to see some type of fallout from a continental invasion that is constantly discussed by main characters and the civilIans in the cities that are being occupied by the enemy.
>no armed guards in sight, no resistance from civilians, everyone goes through towns like they're all on vacation.
>no connection or chance to step on to the land you spend the game fighting for
>nitpicks

Are you sure, anon?
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>>378800070
t. never played any of them
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>>378800070
>Seriously fuck off
Not even XV-kun can defend the Leviathan fight, sad!
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>>378799378
Hopefully it gets announced at E3.
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>>378799447
60 FPS hurts my eyes. Is it a side effect of spending most gaming hours on the PS1?
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378799865
>he keeps going and doing exactly what I predicted he would
this is beyond sad, not even worth a >(You)
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>>378799387
You mean the faggot who hates XV but hasn't played it is back dumping his webms trying to shit on XV again.
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Agreed
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>>378799736
He's succed inside the crystal and Bahamut tells him that the light of providence is the only way to stop the accursed, and it's the collective power of the crystal, the Astrals, the glaives of rulers past and it costs the life of the person who incites it. Noctis then spends 10 years absorbing the crystals light into the ring, then Bahamut says that it waxes full and to go forth to Insomnia. when he comes out of the crystal all the energy of it is inside the ring, then during the final cutscene the Astrals and the 13 kings are all absorbed as energy into the ring too
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>>378799387
he's not even mexican
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>>378800082
Dude what? The kingsglaive are all dead, the remaining crownsguard are Cor, Gladio, Ignis, Prompto, Monica and Dustin, everyone else is dead. The areas of Leide, Cleigne and Duscae were already forfeit to Niflheim which is why they have military bases there. Noctis and co essentially are the remaining military and you do reconnaissance and infiltration, you see the fallout of Insomnia when you finally go back. And the Hunters are mentioned multiple times as being the equivalent to the crownsguard outside of Insomnia, whom you see stationed almost everywhere.
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>>378800764
And it sounds really cool too until I have to wonder why the 13 kings have to be summoned in a tower clearly built long after the prophecy was made, or why the other 13 kings failed to do it, or why the spread of darkness took years, then jump started to perpetual night by the time they got to nifleheim, then stayed that way for 10 years without wiping out the human race.

To be fair though, those are nitpicks. I just feel that it would have been a better story element if it were a year, or even a week later instead of 10 years.
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>>378801464
Noctis and Ardyn were the only chosen kings, as in the crystal chose them to be the true king. The other kings were regular ones in succession. Noctis just summoned them to the throne room. Luna was pushing it back and her death accelerated since noone could hold it back anymore which is the real reason why Ardyn killed her.
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>>378801278
> The kingsglaive are all dead, the remaining crownsguard are Cor, Gladio, Ignis, Prompto, Monica and Dustin, everyone else is dead.

that's my problem with it. in a city the size of new york, 6 people made it out alive, and 15 or so kingsglaive soldiers were the last line of defense? bullshit.

>The areas of Leide, Cleigne and Duscae were already forfeit to Niflheim which is why they have military bases there.

which I thought meant they were recently occupied since they still call regis their king. Even in lastallum they act surprised when they see a (nonexistant) nifleheim guard. They couldn't have been occupied that long.

>you see the fallout of Insomnia when you finally go back

at the very end of the game. fuck that. FFIX's invasion of burmecia had way more impact. and that barely involved all of the main characters.

>And the Hunters are mentioned multiple times as being the equivalent to the crownsguard outside of Insomnia, whom you see stationed almost everywhere.

and yet we get almost no interaction with them outside of collecting their dogtags and them taking custody and letting go of that nifleheim general. Dave doesn't even bring up what they're doing on the sidelines for insmonia aside from hunting deamons.
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>>378801464
now that gives the plot a bit more sense, thanks, anon
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>>378801464
meant for
>>378802573
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>>378767726
Avoid role game story of medieval fantasy, avoid story for only frikis.
Add cyber punk story about Frankenstein villain nemesis of main character, teenage story edgy in 1997.
Add mini games,3D and big chickens could ride, fun for children's.

FFVIII add love story
FFIX return to friki story
FFX return love story
FF XII return to friki story
FF XIII fuck you
FF XV still fuck you

Someday
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>>378800070
>>378799090
>>378778497
>>378793172
>>378786380

Ifrit was fun tho
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>>378804308
QTEs are never fun
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>>378798335
First one looks better. The bottom one looks like cheese ball (so epic le xd) graphics.
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>>378799214
Levi fight in FF14 looks and plays better
>looks better
cmon anon don't lie.
https://youtu.be/QvXbIugeC5I
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>>378805362
The whirlpool honestly looks better
The whole Leviathan part in XV sucks, i can't believe they actually put it in the game like that.
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>>378774542
downloaded it on ipad, was pretty happy with it after i bought one of those 3 dollar d-pads
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>>378776971
i would put ffx at #1 of the series but tidus is just so fucking cringey. the whole i-hate-you-dad thing makes cloud's teenage angst look like clint eastwood in comparison
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>>378774542
I just played it for the first time this year, and I thought it was great.
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of all the pantheistic cyberpunk stories about multiple identity disorder, it's definitely top 5 for me
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>>378767726

FFVIfags will argue otherwise but you gotta admit the popularity speaks for itself.
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>>378807345
people like Coldplay and voted for the nazis
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>>378807447

Apples to oranges good sir.
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>>378790153
So that's why Xenogears was unfinished.
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>>378807559
>If it's popular, it's good!
Nah. Not saying VII is not good, but you are a retard.
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>>378807857

I never said that. Funny how actual retards try and call other people retards over little to nothing.
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>>378796410
>Birth of a God over One-Winged Angel
Good opinion
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>>378798023
>He hasn't played Xenoblade
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>>378803151
did you miss that the entire city was destroyed and that the glaives either all died during the invasion fighting Niflheim or joined Niflheim?

crownsguard was downsized to only a small group of elites which is why only they mainly survived, all the other insomnia survivors went to lestallum or wherever else.

Regis willingly sacrificed the city which is why he downsized the crownsguard and ordered Cor to help the people instead

Lestallums weren't surprised that someone was Niflheim, Talcott was because he's from insomnia and has a connection to the prince through his grandpa.

Being at the end doesn't change that it's impactful, more than you can say for Zanarkand
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>>378804409
They are if they're optional.
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>>378808490
This is one of the worst JRPG battle themes ever.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCR7pXMTiwU

The fact that she's not working on Xenoblade 2 is the best part about the game so far.
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>>378804409
>QTEs are never fun
Wrong, they are however trash in XV.
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>>378767726
The king of overrated shit that pretends to be a certain genre when it clearly isn't.
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>>378809608

Any points why it isn't?

You seem mad.
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>>378809813
Probably an assblasted VIII fan.
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>>378808727
Nah, I like this one.
I am glad to see ACE+ is coming back for Xenoblade 2 though, the Xenoblade X soundtrack's not to my taste at all.
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>>378810482
WIND BLOWS
HARD IN DECEMBER
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>>378769012
Materia wasn't anything special looking back on it.
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>>378775012
FF9 is my favorite, too, but we're pretty out in the water on that one.
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>>378790948
>When a game is good word of mouth is enough

You'd really think so but look at this shit. I mean this is gamefaqs of all places! Nier should get more love here than in the general public, and still..
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>>378793847
>people defend and even praise the FFT """"""""artstyle""""""""
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