>he fell for the "gothic 2 is good" meme

>>378763842
This. It's a german game. Name 1 good thing that came out of germany

>>378763942
Gothic 2

>>378763942
Mama Merkel.

We Trigger /v/: The Thread

>OP couldn't get into the city
>OP got bamboozled by bandits
>OP got gored by the wolves
>OP tried to steal from Onar
>OP didn't pick all the turnips

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>>378763942
>Name 1 good thing that came out of germany

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>>378763942
Hitler

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>>378763942
The Third Reich

>>378764067
>>378764082
>>378764098
You're so predictable it's not even funny

>>378763842
I'm so sorry

>15 years old game looks more aesthetic than Breath of The Cucks
really makes you think

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>Gothic 2

Holy those graphics top kek

Don't worry RPGbros, he got your back.

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>>378763842

>>378764158
Shh, you'll get hordes of asshurt nintendo spergs in here.

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>>378764134
good goy

>>378764067
He came from Austria though. Joke's on you.

>>378764318
Fucking Australians

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>>378764208
lol

>>378764082
He was Austrian

>>378764350
Holy shit... CDCucket BTFO...

I really enjoyed Risen. I want to fall for the "Gothic 2 is good" meme.

Is there maybe some good mods that are recommended before starting? (for graphics mostly)

>>378763842
it's /v/ being contrarian faggot teenagers again

Better than The Bitcher 3: The Wild Cuck...

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Where I can find the Gothic 2: GOTY edition?

>>378764551
dx11- full dynamic shadows, hbao, AA etc.

simply search dx11 gothic 2
it's better than rise, even though I like it as well

whole witcher series is a lot like gothic, but with more talking

>>378764424
fucking kiwis

>>378764752
gog, steam, google

>>378764350
You do know that Skyrim had big quest markers everywhere, right?

There's a sad smear campaign done towards Gothic 2 these days /v/ is complicit in this because they refuse to stop them

>>378764350
you do know that witcher quests have 10 times more dialogue lines than skyrim, and 5 times more than gothic 2

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>>378763942
An inspiration for Girls und Panzer.

>>378765171
pretty sure that because of WoT, Belarus(slav) game

>>378764752
>Gothic 2 - 2002 - still played, modded, and talked about

>Witcher 1 - 2007 - nobody cares
>Witcher 2 - 2011 - nobody cares
>Witcher 3 - 2015 - no mod community, Witcherkeks have no relevance expect invading every thread and post meme pictures

>>378765320
There is literally a Witcher 1 thread up at this very moment which has 100+ replies, meanwhile Gothic 2 threads rarely hit even 50 replies before archiving, the fuck are you on about? Literally nobody talks about Gothic anymore.

>>378765320
personally I replay witcher12(3) and gothic12 two interchangeably every two years

>>378763942
I like their cars

>>378764208
witcher 3 was shit.
Witcher 2 is the only good witcher game.

>>378763942
Anno

t. german

I want to replay the game but figuring all the quests all over again would drive me insane
I'm too old for this shit

>>378764424
this

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>>378763942
Anstoss 3

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OP is just trying to start a Gothic thread

>>378768941
is Xardas dicking with the weather again

>>378768117
>>378768941
y-yamete, I don't want to replay G2 so soon

>>378770151
>Foliage completely static

Dropped.

How's that mod where you play a girl?

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>>378770151
>static

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>>378770795

Hate the combat and the level progression, and the story of the game is generic as fuck. They totally ruined what they had in the first game by going down the "fate, destiny, evil wizard" route.

>>378771165
It's like, the first Gothic presented a weird fantasy world. Gothic 2 has you fighting boring-as-fuck dragons you can't kill unless you find Summon Demon scrolls.

>>378771165
git gud

>>378763942
Holocaust

>>378771632
but it didn't

>>378764350
> Gothic 2 quest
> someho with a Gothic 1 log

What the fuck is going on there bro.
>>378765320

Witcher 1 is a great game that people still care about.

That being said>>378765452

Is also wrong. 4chan is not the be-all end-all of video games. worldofgothic is a whole site dedicated to Gothic franchise with tons of mods to download. There's also a lot in development and last year there were 2 big Gothic 2 mods that came out. So yeah, it's still that good.

>>378763842
>told Divity Original Sin is a good game
>it isn't
>told the Gothic series are good games
>they aren't
>told Pillar of Eternity is a good game
>it isn't
Never again will I listen to /v/

>>378768117
this webm immediately convinced me to purchase Gothic Universe Edition on steam

i hope i made the right choice

>>378772367
that webm uses DX11

>>378771165
I'm willing to agree, but Gothic 2 has a huge advantage over the first one by having more content.

Seriously, there's side quests, activities and NPCs out the ass. After you join a guild in Gothic 1 there's basically not much to do outside of following the main quest which is like 4-5 quests per chapter. What carries it is the atmosphere, the story, combat and exploration. Also the final dungeon is one of the best end dungeons I've ever played through. Halls of Irdorath are a joke compared to the Temple of the Sleeper.
>>378772142
Have you ever considered that you have the taste of a shit-eating plebeian?

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>>378772142
>told that you have shit taste
>you do

On the plus side they are making a new game now so my life has purpose once again

>>378772367
>steam

enjoy having to install shit ton of patches for it to work

should have gotten the gog version which is ready to play

>>378772596
it's confirmed garbage.

PB died after Gothic 2

>>378772618
>it's 85% off on steam

>>378772719
Risen is a masterpiece tho. Just the 1st one

>>378763842
Hitler

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>>378765320
>still played, modded, and talked about
yeah by the same 2-3 people

>>378763842
Gothic 2 is playable, much more than can be said of Gothic 1.

>>378772454
>>378772550
>NO! THESE GAMES CAN'T BE BAD! I REFUSE TO BELIEVE IT!
Standards are more important than taste, and those three games don't have any.

Gothic has an excuse, Gothic is an old series, dinivty and poe are not, they have no excuse to be bad like olden day games.

>>378773619
go back to Skyrim

>>378773748
>If I tell him to go back to X then his argument is invalid!
No.

>>378773619
Gothic was great then and it is great now. The only reason why you would call it bad is your inflexibility and forward-mindedness. It's like calling an Atari 2600 game bad because they're old now.

>>378773894
you haven't presented any arguments at all as to why it's bad

>>378773993
>>378774045
>no sense of direction
>explains almost nothing
This is why Gothic, Pillars, and Divinity are bad games.

But Gothic has an excuse for being that way, it's a product of its time

>>378774295
>no sense of direction

what the fuck does that even mean?

>>378774438
>enter area
>have to wander around aimlessly for a few minutes to figure out what to do

>get quest
>have to scower the map for where you're suppose to go

>enemies are too powerful
>have to wander around the world until you maybe find where you're actually suppose to be

>>378774295
> no sense of direction

What? Artistically or plot wise?

Artistically the game is what the title says. Gothic. You not a hero, not are you a villain. You're True Neutral, doing what you must to get by and break out of prison.

Plot-wise? Right out the door the main character in a dialogue with Diego vows to find a way out of the barrier. And you do. You join a camp, the plot thickens and you make your way to freeing the inmates from the barrier.

> explains almost nothing

Alright we're hitting the underage bottom of the barrell here. It's called "no handholding". Good games do this, and teach you the game design within the game, and not heterodiegetically.

Also, the game came with a manual in which the basic controls were described. It seems that nowadays people are so short-tempered and autistic that they can't even sit down to read up on basic stuff in a manual while installing the game.

If you think that those points you've made honestly decry the Gothic games as bad now, being a product of their time, then you're bad as a product of OUR time.

>>378774821
>enter area
>have to wander around aimlessly for a few minutes to figure out what to do

so exploring?

>>get quest
>have to scower the map for where you're suppose to go

so exploring?

>enemies are too powerful
>have to wander around the world until you maybe find where you're actually suppose to be

or git gud at the combat

>>378774821
You are the reason why video games nowadays hold your hand and shove arrows in your face to point you in the right direction. Fucking disgusting. Leave /v/ forever.

>>378774850
>What?
see >>378774821
>It's called "no handholding".
Having the player unaware of half the basic mechanics of the game is not "no handholding", it's called the game being badly designed.

>>378774912
Wandering around the same spots over and over and over again is not "exploring"
>or git gud at the combat
When you die in 1 or 2 hits, there is no "git gud"

>>378774954
>If you can see the problems with these old games then you're shit and must like casual games
Fuck off

>>378775258
>When you die in 1 or 2 hits, there is no "git gud"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQgTa7qS9wg

He one shots you every time, so you can't even get hit once

http://webm.land/w/T0i3/

>>378774821
You actually are complaining that a game teaches you with gameplay instead of just telling you outright what to do, my god.

The first point you make is literally called EXPLORING. Be adventurous every now and then for fuck's sake.

> get quest
> have to scower the map for where you're supposed to go

Or you could actually listen to what people fucking tell you for a change, brainchild.

Like one of the first quests you get is from the cook Snaf who tells you to get ingredients and find a guard called Nek. He tells you he went collecting mushrooms by a cave at the Southern camp gate. That's where you easily find him if you spend 2 seconds looking. I could figure this shit out when I was 9 for crying out loud.

> enemies are too powerful
> have to wander around the world

That's because everyone in the game tells you not to venture into such areas until you've prepared. You can't take on an Orc Warrior at level 1, and that only makes sense. Scaling enemies are bullshit by comparison. You end up fighting a Bandit / a marauding Bandit / a Veteran Bandit / an Epic Bandit / a legendary Bandit and they all end up being palette swaps of the same enemy with different stats. Gothic has a sense of progression: You start out squashing meat bugs and work your way through wolves and goblins to Orcs, Snappers, Razors, Skeletons, Zombies, Golems, Trolls, Demons and Arch-Demons.

All it takes is the player getting a little involved in a game that doesn't hold your hand. It's actually kinda beautiful how the game tosses you into the world, forcing you to survive on your wits in the same way that the main character is. Why would you want to ruin that with unnecessary handholding. Also you should watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVYrALStucs

>>378775391
you can't take on an Orc Warrior at level 1, and that only makes sense.

best thing is you actually can if you've mastered the combat to the pro level

>>378775258
It's literally a (You) issue. Literal children managed to find a way to complete these games. Are you related to DarkSydePhil? by any chance?

Anyway, you're supposed to figure it out on your own. The ambiguity is what made the old games so great. It didn't make you feel like you were a retard who needed help with every little thing, basically. And you had a great feeling of reward if you beat the game by your own.

>>378775258

Like I said, basic mechanics are explained in the manual, and the rest is explained naturally by the game itself without any explicit dialogue. If you NEED that, you are beyond helping. Even a short look at the control menu should help you with that.

What basic mechanics were you unaware of while playing then?

> wandering around the same spots

Which same spots? What the fuck are you doing? Can you not follow the simplest of quest instructions?


You're seeing problems where there are none. Because with each post you've demonstrated that you need a game to tell you everything explicitly instead of figuring out the game by the hints it gives you tacitly.

>>378763942
Lots of songs, lots of cars, lots of scientists.

>>378766923
Nice.

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How did we go from this

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>>378775916
To this?

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>>378775348
That lone NPC has nothing to do with the topic at hand

>>378775391
>teaches you with gameplay
No it doesn't. It expects you to already know everything.
>The first point you make is literally called EXPLORING
Now you're straight up ignoring my posts, so unless you acknowledge everything I said this argument will go no further.

Reply to me without logical fallacies and we'll continue.

>>378775730
Did I say I couldn't complete them? No.
I said they were bad games, which they are.
>you're suppose to guess for hours until you've figured out the basic mechanics
That's beyond dogshit

>>378775762
Digital versions of Gothic don't come with a manual, and there are plenty of actual good games from around or even before its time that bother to explain basic shit like a good game should.

>>378775609

In Gothic 1 you can't even if you're a pro. If you've got 10 strength you can't equip any weapon that will get through an Orc's armor.

In Gothic 2 you could, because no matter what you hit someone with you'll deal at least 1 damage.

>>378763842
Best meme

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>>378776150
>No it doesn't. It expects you to already know everything.

"Scavengers, that's what we call the big birds, should be attacked one after another.
It's easy to lure single scavengers from the pack. If you come too close they'll become agitated, after a while they will storm towards your direction, and you should be waiting for them, with a raised weapon. If you strike the beast before it hits you, you have to keep fighting to be able to defeat the creature. If it hits you first, well just don't let them."

Name one game where you learn about how to play the game from talking to people instead of some pop-up window giving you tips and explaining how everything works

>>378764278
Nazis were probably the most creative group of people.

>>378775258
you are bad at video games, just give up already

>>378776150
>Digital versions of Gothic don't come with a manual, and there are plenty of actual good games from around or even before its time that bother to explain basic shit like a good game should.

Plenty of stuff is explained in Gothic and the rest isn't hard to figure out.

>>378776150
>complains about not knowing where to go
>post a game with the exact same quest mechanics as Gothic

you're just a butthurt little fag

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>>378763842
I like it and dislike it at the same time.

You have this wonderful world and so many things to find.
And then you have quests like the stolen bow, you expect that thing would be somewhere to find in the water or near the shore due to the quest text, but nope, its behind the locked door with the thieves guild.
Of course, you will find that out later, but since its such an early Q you expect it to be solved right away and you dont know if you are to stupid to find the damn thing or if its just somewhere else.

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>>378776597
is this is a jojo's bizarre adventure reference?

game crashed while i was saving now i must to restart. just go to the point where i could kill most shit too

>>378776150
>Digital versions of Gothic don't come with a manual

last time i pirated G2 it had a manual pdf in the installation folder
think it was the gog version but not sure

>>378775916
>>378776008
Found your answer

>>378776150

Is playing mage fun in Gothic 2 ? I went with militia/paladin

Too bad NoTR fucked up STR requirements for weapons

>>378776150
>teaches you with gameplay

one (1) example: NPC says "Don't go into the forest. Shit's dangerous"

Player sees forest. Goes in. Gets killed by shadowbeast.

Doesn't go into forest unprepared again.


>Now you're straight up ignoring my posts, so unless you acknowledge everything I said this argument will go no further.

That's because you give no examples of what you mean. I can hardly acknowledge a point that has been either poorly argued or not argued at all.

Also, nothing of what I have said is a logical fallacy. You're just throwing that term around because you want to seem much more intellectual than you actually are, as you prove yet again with this post.

> Digital versions of Gothic don't come with a manual, and there are plenty of actual good games from around or even before its time that bother to explain basic shit like a good game should.

Googling "Gothic game manual pdf" will fix that. If you are intelligent enough to do such basic reasearch that is.

And yet again; the game does. What is a mechanic that you dont understand? Picking up and using things? Because it does that.

If you know that the action button focusses things, pushing up picks them up/uses them, then opening a chest, buying/selling items shouldn't be a problem. It wasn't for me when I was a 9 year old.

Unless you give a good example of what a"basic mechanic that isn't explained" is, your posts pretty much prove by themselves that you're either underage or incompetent.

If a 9 year old can intellectually out-gun you at a video game, you've got some serious issues.

>>378777607
mage pretty much amplifies how hard the game is in the beginning as well as how much you annihilate in end game. it requires a bit more min maxing compared to the others and youll be chugging potions but the spells you get are worth it

>>378774821

Pillars and Divinity didn't feel like that to me at all.

>>378777607
People regularly give the advice not to go full mage. Put some 60 points in dex so you can wield a master épée (if thats what the english name for it is) or something like that.

Mage is a bit more tedious at times, but can be a lot of fun if you know how to use your spells properly. But there will be times where you will attack a party of enemies, kill 1 enemy with a few fireballs, run away, chug potions, rinse & repeat. A paladin would just run in and hack everything into pieces in one go by comparison.

>>378776597
Theres no way you actually beleive that shit happened.

I need coop rpg games something like the games in this thread but coop

>>378777607
Character progression in G2:
Melee: easy-easy-hard
Ranged: hard-easy-easy
Mage:hard-hard-press X to win

Quest quality wise, mercenaries are the most fun

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>>378776405
That's not relevant to the topic

>>378776717
and by "plenty" you you movement and the attack button

>>378776798
>a game with the exact same quest mechanics as Gothic
Morrowind gives you directions and gives you a basic tutorial when you start out

>>378777689
>That's because you give no examples of-
You know exactly what you did, this argument will go no further until you go back and fix your mistake.

>>378778540
>That's not relevant to the topic
confirmed you're btfo

>Morrowind gives you directions
so does Gothic, and the tutorial isn't needed because it's easy to figure out things on your own

>>378778517
mage isnt that hard either. summon goblin skeleton will carry you through chapter 1 and 2 easily, summon skeleton will take care of the rest, along with ice block. the heavy area damage spells in later chapters are just a bonus.

the hardest part about mage is the addon world, where you have to deal with fights in the bandit camp. cant use summons there, so you have to rely on your lackluster melee skills. but apart from that, mage is really strong throughout most of the game.

well groups of orcs or lizardmen in chapter 4 are a problem too i guess

>>378778540
The rest isn't hard to figure out. I went into Gothic 1 with no knowledge on how to play and I did just fine.

>>378778540
You've got no examples then. Got that

>>378763842
>OP surpassed the usual contrarianism and achieved the ultimate form of shitposting: being a sonybro

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>>378763942
Calculus (Leibniz)
Statistics (Gauß)
Engines (Diesel / Otto)
Atheism (Luther)
...

>>378778540
>Morrowind gives you directions and gives you a basic tutorial when you start out

gothic gives you directions in game and the basic tutorial in the manual, which most people read during the game's installation

>>378765078
not to mention every character was beautifully written

>>378778671
>confirmed you're btfo
Off-topic discussion does not "blow the fuck out" anyone

>>378778671
>>378779157
>so does Gothic
>gothic gives you directions in game
No it doesn't.
Morrowind tells you what direction to walk in, what landmarks to look for.

Gothic just tells you to go to X and that's it.

>>378778912
Even if that's true, which I highly doubt it isn't, it doesn't change the fact that it's still bad game design and that Gothic is a bad game because of it.

>>378778942
Examples of?...

>>378779157
>and the basic tutorial in the manual
As previously stated, the digital version does not come with a manual, and there are plenty of actual good games from around or even before its time that bother to explain basic shit like a good game should.

>>378779271
No matter how good the dialogues are, they can't save the trash gameplay

>>378763842
I love RPGs, but for some reason I could never get into Gothic 2 or 3. They just rubbed me the wrong way completely.

Every year or two, I play Gothic 2 for about an hour, then put it down again

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>>378776597
>implying it isn't just Jewish trickery

>>378779398
A basic mechanic that isn't explained.

>>378779398
>No it doesn't.
Morrowind tells you what direction to walk in, what landmarks to look for.

Gothic just tells you to go to X and that's

Alright, you got me good. I thought you were serious but now I realized this is bait.

>>378763942
Heckler & Koch

>>378779398
Even if that's true, which I highly doubt it isn't, it doesn't change the fact that it's still bad game design and that Gothic is a bad game because of it.
You being bad at something does not make that thing badly designed. I figured it out and so did every person I know who played it as well.

>>378779398
>No it doesn't.

are you just retarded?
the first thing that happens in a new game of gothic 1 is a guy called diego talking to you and telling you where to go to join his faction.
firs thing in gothic 2 is xardas talking to you and telling you to go to khorinis.
you literally cant miss these.

There was this gothic-like game that had fun magic and island by boat traveling. Not risen, that's the pirates one, right?

>>378764014

Butthurt kraut bait : the thread

>>378779560
I'm not going to reinstall Gothic just to prove you wrong, I'm not autistic.

>>378779579
>he's run out of room to bullshit so now he hopes calling it bait will make it go away
no

>>378779762
>You being bad at something does not make that thing badly designed
Correct
>I figured it out and so did every person I know who played it as well.
I'll repeat myself only once, even if that that is true, it doesn't change the fact that it's still bad game design and that Gothic is a bad game because of it.

>>378779868
>the first thing that happens in a new game of gothic 1 is a guy called diego talking to you and telling you where to go to join his faction.
>firs thing in gothic 2 is xardas talking to you and telling you to go to khorinis.
They tell you the place to go to, not where to find it, not even the general direction of it.

>>378779398
>Morrowind tells you what direction to walk in, what landmarks to look for.
>Gothic just tells you to go to X and that's it.

lmao mate you can drop it now
in both gothic games start at the beginning of a linear pathway that leads you straight to the first main hub area if you follow it (old camp in the first game, harbor town in the second game) along with NPCs telling you to go there

>muh gothic da bes
>muh witcher da bes
>muh rpg is better than urs
I enjoy TES, witcher and Gothic, even 3 which I own the special edition for. Deal with it ebin war fanfags

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>>378779905
First Risen is very similar to Gothic, yet not as good. Pirates are not it's main-theme though

>>378780059
So you DO have no examples.

If you claim something you should be able to back it up with evidence. Also you clearly have enough autism to sustain an opinion on the internet for a prolonged period of time lacking any substantial evidence to back up your point.

>the first thing that happens in a new game of gothic 1 is a guy called diego talking to you and telling you where to go to join his faction.
>firs thing in gothic 2 is xardas talking to you and telling you to go to khorinis.

In both instances they tell you to follow the path that is quite literally at your feet. Or at the foot of Xardas tower. And those directions are not hard to follow. The beaten paths are quite easily visible. Is your attention span really this short?

>>378780059
>exit my tower and follow the road untill you see a big farm and behind it is the city

>>378780190
this, they are all good series I don't get what the fuck there is to shitpost about

>>378780123
>>378780361
>>378780413
I don't even need to reinstall Gothic to remember that shit ain't true.

>>378780201
Risen was actually slightly better than Gothic.

>>378780440
>I don't even need to reinstall Gothic to remember that shit ain't true
I literally started a new game yesterday and remember Xardas exact words, telling you that kek

>>378780059
You said it's bad because it doesn't explain shit to which I said that it doesn't need to explain shit because it's easy to figure out. The problem is with you and your expectation to be spoon-fed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIb7CeRvZeE

>>378780201
Well, not pirates itself, but on a tropical island and titans fucking shit up. That's risen, right? Enjoyed it a lot though for me it was Gothic- jungle edition. 2 went full pirates? Never completed it.

My regrets with G3 was how empty everything was. Huge world with 3 biomes (lots for the time), yet only the grasslands felt somewhat done. Not Arabia and not Norway were just disappointing

>>378780561
>The game isn't flawed, you're just retarded!
That argument holds as much ground as air.

>>378780537
Yet you have no proof.

>>378780059
>>378780440

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZM7ZBJZ-Yo&list=PLJzHvvVnj46FFsWXI8V_Jx-AvvVOZaFeN

8:55

>>378779102
Spelled Newton wrong there kiddo

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>>378780440
the combat is somehow better but the writing & setting isn't as good imo. Risen 2 was very different though, but i got bored and didn't continue.

Haven't tried Risen 3 though, is it good ? Good as in is it worth a playthrough

>>378780806
If hundreds of thousands of people can figure something out but not you then yes you may just be retarded.

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>>378780440
>I don't even need to reinstall Gothic to remember that shit ain't true.

might want to brush up on your shit memory lmao

>>378780807
>>378781230
>"follow the path"
Until what? To where? Which one?

>>378780960
>is it good ?
It's terrible

>>378781035
>If hundreds of thousands of people can figure something out but not you-
Assumptions make an ass out of you and me, anon.

I never said I couldn't figure it out, I said it was bad game design.

>play gothic 2 like 15 years ago or something
>find a tiny bit I could barely climb to leave the intended player map
>There's a fucking troll comming at me from the woods on top
If intended they got me good

>>378776338
also crits ignore armor completely in gothic 2

>>378763942
40% of american settlers.
Oh wait ... you said good.

>>378781296
>Until what? To where? Which one?
i dont see how you can be this retarded

>>378781296
>Until what? To where? Which one?

So you haven't even played the game?
There's only one path out of Xardas tower, and it leads straight to the city. And after a while you will see it in the distance because it's huge.

>>378781296
>Until what? To where? Which one?
Ah, I see. It's not the devs fault that you are mentally retarded.

>>378781230
As with Gothic 1, it's less of an objective and more of a poke to kick the game off. You wrap yourself in a lot of shit before you reach the city walls, and once you get there they don't even let you in

>>378779102
Who is this GauB?

>>378781296
You were the one bringing up retardation. My point is it doesn't need to explain easy to figure out stuff to the player because it's easy to figure out.

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>>378781445
>>378781492
>>378781531
>dodging the question
I guess here is as good as any place to end this argument as it seems the only people left to argue with are too butthurt to stop when they've run out of bullshit to spew.

I'm gonna go play a good game now.

>>378776597
This was proven to be untrue like many other "eyewitness" reports.
Even the author confessed it was a fabrication on his part.

>>378781296
this guy >>378780807 even posted a timestamped recording of the conversation in question

>"how do i get to thhe city?"
>"follow the path from here through the mountains, you cant miss the city"
>leave tower
>see exactly one single path
>follow it
>it goes straight to the city gates

everybody itt can see that you're just shitposting at this point lmao

>>378781730
Are you trying to shill Morrowind or something? Because you've only proven to everybody in this thread that morrowind cucks are retarded butthurt faggots so you're doing quite the opposite

>>378781730
The game gives you clear directions. It's a big path outside the tower that leads straight to the city. Seriously, how can you NOT grasp that? Do you need questmarkers?

>>378781730
>So you haven't even played the game?
There's only one path out of Xardas tower, and it leads straight to the city. And after a while you will see it in the distance because it's huge.
>>dodging the question

>>378773619
>No! These games can't be good! I refuse to believe it!
Standards are more important than taste, but you don't have either.

>>378779102
>Atheism

>>378763942
schnitzel

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>>378763942
fanta

>>378781730
Certifiably retarded. If you can't follow the yellow brick road to the Emerald City you are fucking stupid. It's literally that easy.

What's the best way of killing dragons with melee only?

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whats the point of exploration in open world game when everything you do is lead by arrow. magic of gothic is that you can find new things by just looking for the right one, like paths or some shit. (pic rel)
it's the real exploration, not just fuccin around between segments of following devish hand

>>378783578
gettsum dragon hunters wittcha. does it still count as melee for u?

>>378783824
Not really, besides I'm pretty sure you can't take anyone with you to the bossfight in Irdorath.

>>378774295
>>378774821

summer has officially arrived

>>378783578
Eat black ore, drink a potion of sprinting. Whack the dragon and hope to god it drops before he stunlocks you in his flamebreath.
You best have put all your points in Stremfth.

>>378783721

I really liked how the exploration sets had a story to tell. Beyond Orlan's tavern there's that overturned cart with some merchandise still lying around like gold, scrolls, potions and stuff. Skeletons lie around where men have been struck dead. Arrows are stuck in human remains and other objects.

The game basically adds some history to an area by telling a little story with nothing by gameplay/ game assets. I love that shit. Especially in dungeons, finding skeletons with some leftover equipment is just a cool thing that adds a little bit of atmosphere. There were other adventurers, or victims of circumstance, who died here, clutching an axe, a potion and a magic scroll. Perhaps they were killed by animals or undead. For some reason they weren't looted. Just gives it an ominous feeling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F62CiHXQAPY

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>>378784426
Damn, that's what I've been doing all this time. Guess It's another mage playthrough for me then, cause I'm not dealing with that shit again.

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>>378763842
Hey guys, sorry I'm late, it looks like you changed the thread title this time!

>>378784717
Honestly the Dragon fights are the most rage-inducing fights in Gothic 2 that I've ever had. It's pure savescummery and random chance whether you defeat a dragon or don't. I usually hope to got that they get stuck taking sidesteps constantly so that I can whack them, but sometimes they just push you back with fire attacks in a deadly rush.

So then you're either stuck with healing up while he regenerates for another try, or reloading.

But if you're playing NotR I would just skip the mélee fight and buy 4 scrolls of Summon Demon. Because all spell scrolls cost 5 Mana and a Demon will fuck up a Dragon without getting a scratch.

That's another point of bad NotR balancing. A Mage can NOT defeat a dragon with 4th circle spell loadout. It's not possible. As a mage you HAVE to rely on summon demon scrolls, which is fucking stupid.

>>378782768
the only reasonable response so far

>>378763942
Bach, Goethe and Herzog, to name a few

>>378785424
nobody cares about your favorite youtubers and twitch streamers

>>378785424
literally whos?

>>378784252
go to bed, Grandpa

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I have I, II and III on Steam. Do they need any patches or mods?

Also nobody here is talking about 3, its shit isn't it?

>>378764067
>>378764082
he came from austria you retard

>>378786083
1 - systempack
2 - systempack and DX11

>>378786083
>3, its shit isn't it?
yes, and dont let people fool you into thinking the community patch fixes the game

>>378786083
3 isn't shit, but people have not gotten over the state it was released in. It was a bugfest. On older PCs it's still hard to run. Otherwise expect some 100 hours of completing hundreds of different quests, freeing cities of crushing them under your heel as you see fit, and shaping the ending of the franchise.

It's honestly a pretty great game. For the ending alone.

>>378764968
jokes on you I edited the .ini files to remove those

>>378786579

what >>378786515 said

>>378763842
I want to get into Gothic. Is it the type of game where I can do life sim stuff in the world?

Y'know, make equipment, hunt, etc?

>>378786641
no, there's no crafting except forging weapons, but you can sell animal trophies

>>378786883
Forging weapons is what I was looking for. I don't suppose you can own a house? Plant crops?

I'm just in the mood for some comfy.

>>378774821
>duuuude I have to explore
>duuuuude why isn't the game linear?
>duuuuuuuuude whjy don't they just tell me all the answers?
>duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude I have to "think"

>>378786990
no, just play a survival game like The Forest

>>378787081
>the forest
>comfy

No thanks, man.

Despite how oversaturated the genre is, good survival games are in short supply.

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Gothic 3 + Community Patch is the best WRPG in existance.

>>378787593

>>378786515

>>378787593
Well, it doesn't really compete against a big list of games. Even if its big enough for crowning to be a noteworthy achievement.

>>378771275
Bro, I only used scrolls on the last one. Otherwise full melee. Git fucking gud.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKPBvXPg2bU

>>378779465
Gothic 3 is completely different from Gothic 2. Don't even mention them in the same paragraph again.

>>378786990
>own a house
Well, both in 1 and 2 you can pretty much treat any place nobody sleeps in (i.e. you killed the owner) as yours, plus you get your own room in 2's monastery as a mage.
Though unless there's like an alchemy table or the thingy for making runes, houses serve no other purpose than sleeping.

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>>378764278
>car right behind first car that hit wall
doesnt that mean they would just crash each other? doesnt sound efficient use of equipment

>>378788290
That's because it's a bullshit fairytale, anonymous~

>>378764318
Austria is basically germany, they speak the same language. They're more German than east germans or swiss germans or north germans

coop gothic when?

Is there a mod for Gothic II for real first person gameplay?

>>378789180
With those controls? lol

>>378763842
Well now is a good time to fall for that meme because it's on sale like a motherfucker.

Which of these games are good and which ones should I avoid? Doesn't look like there's a bundle for all three. I think 2 is the one I see people memeing about the most so should I just do that?

>>378789886
1 is pretty good
2 is the best

Ignore the rest, anything after 2 is shit

>>378789886
Gothic 2 is the only great one.
Gothic 1 is merely good, play it if 2 grabs you.

>>378789886
play 1 first, it will enhance the experience of 2

>>378789886
Play them in order, see them all for yourself.
IMO, it's basically 1>2>3, with 1 presenting a fairly unique world with a great storyline, and 2 having a ton of content at the price of being more generic. 3 is just kinda meh.

>>378790002
>>378790023
>>378790229
Yeah I've consistently heard 3 is shite so I'll disregard it for now but seriously, 1 or 2? I work full time and take night classes so I don't have a whole ton of vidya time, sadly, so I don't know if that contributes to the answer... I'm leaning toward just grabbing 2 but how much of a difference does it make? Like I'm REALLY fucking glad I got the first Nier and played it before Automata came out but that's extremely story driven. I don't really know much about Gothic except that /v/ seems to like it, and as much of a shithole as this place is, I'm generally glad I listened to you fags when it comes to games I need to play.

>>378790735
>so I don't have a whole ton of vidya time

Gothic is a game where you have to invest time in it and sink into the world, and the learning curve is extremely high, it takes lots of practice to get good at the combat. You won't just jump in and play and have fun, you will get raped by everything in the game at the beginning

>>378790735
1 has interesting premise and fun character but not much beyond it. It's a generic RPG with lots of fetch quests, it's also fairly short.
2 ups the game design quality and amount of amazing content by a mile

>>378790735
Play 1, it should be easier to finish than 2 after NOTR's stat changes.

>>378790826
Right on, duly noted. Still even if I don't get into it right away, I might as well jump at the sale. I'm not a poorfag so really I could just get them both, it's just kind of a matter of principle because I have a bunch of shit I need to play already.
>>378790986
Sounds like 2 is the way to go, although how short is short, for the first one?

>>378791141
>how short is short, for the first one?
10-15 hours depending on how quickly you're willing to rush through the main quest

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>>378763942
I can name 6 million things.

What are some top tier graphic mods for g2?
apparently returning 2.0 will never get an proper translation.

>>378765909
Oops, you misclicked the 1 button.

>>378791226
Oh shit, I completely overlooked this at first but there's a package with all three for $2.99. Guess I'll be doing that then.

>>378763942
>>378763974
kek

>>378790826
The first one is more about learning your limitations, than hardcore curve learning.

>>378764424
so was austria

>>378780960
better than 2, not as good as 1