19.99 US DOLLARS

That's pretty good

Yeah, I'll pay that

>>378752437
£13.49 on Steam
You did good, Sega. You did good.

never pay more than $20 for a game.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvD8NZN9Zsg

cute

And?

>>378752437
that's good price

>>378752437
What a steal.

>>378752437
I'm paying for the collector's edition so whatever.

>>378752437 that's an amazing price. For real I'd be willing to pay 40-60 since this is the game I've been asking for for nearly 20 yeara and it looks immaculate .

>>378752437
that's a reasonable price

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>>378752437
That's ok. I won't pay for it, but that's ok.

>>378752437
I'm okay with this.

>>378752437
Shit, my parents used to pay $50-$60 for a game like this. I'm fine with this, though I hope it's still worth that price tag.
If this turns out to be as bad as Sonic 4, THEN it's not worth $20.

I was expecting $30 minimum.

>>378752437
Before doing a sequel, I want Taxman to go back and remaster the remaining 16-bit games (3&K and Chaotix). Those versions really need to be put on consoles.

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>>378752850
Gotchu senpai

>>378754197
>If this turns out to be as bad as Sonic 4

Come on.

>>378755270
>1&2 remasters still don't have PC versions

>>378754197
>If this turns out to be as bad as Sonic 4
It's being made by a guy who's already proven himself.

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>Not $15

>>378752437
20 dollars for a romhack? No thanks.

>>378753380
Where was this photo taken? Any source?

>>378752437
Pre-ordered as soon as it popped up on Steam. I'm fucking READY.

>>378756271
>still no preorder page on switch

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>can't preorder on my switch yet
I WANT TO FEEL CLOSER DAMMIT

>>378752858
Jesus Christ this is adorable

>>378752850
who says that?

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>>378756640

FTFY

PC version is free

I'll just pirate it.

>>378756874
same lol
only retards buy videogames

>>378755270
3&K will never be remastered.

>>378752858
Now I want someone to animate a 5 or 10 minute video of them just in the elevator, with elevator music playing, awkward silence, occasional shuffle, phone notification goes off, etc. Then have Robotnik get into the lift and have him awkwardly try and break the silence by making small talk. Then he gets off a floor before the rest of them. Then they rush out when they reach Mania.

Piratefags are showing once again that all complains about videogames having high prices were just yet another excuse for being shitty human beings in general.

>>378755839
>>378756070
Yeah yeah, I get that, but even if the physics are right on, the culmination of bad story, other gameplay aspects, and maybe some wonky shit like input lag or something COULD hurt the game.

Like you, though, I'm pretty optimistic about Mania.

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>>378756814

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>>378756964
>story

>>378752437
That's a good price for the first worthy follow up to the best Sonic game of all time: 3 & Knuckles.

>>378756907
Especially terrible games like this one.

>>378757069
Correct.

It could be a complete lack.
It could be too much.
It could be the right amount, but GOD AWFUL, which I wouldn't put past anything involving Sonic these days.

>>378757229

complete lack >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the rest

>>378757293
I would like some story. Don't want the damn thing to be New Super Mario, y'know.

But yeah, Sonic needs very little beyond, "Robotnik's new plan to restart the Death Egg, enjoy the journey!" Though it could be more or different from time to time (see SA1).

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have Super forms been confirmed yet? i dont expect them to have Hyper forms but Super at least

>>378757568
Sonic games only need a premise and on/two twists at most.

>>378757826
The game is probably going to feature both. Unless Sega told them not to.

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>>378754197
t. uninformed

>>378756378
>>378756570
Switch doesn't support digital preorders.

>>378758039
That kinda sucks, but whatever. It's not like digital games will ever sell out. The game comes out the day before my birthday, too.

fucking BASED. sega will rise again

>>378758039
>preordering digital

Are people afraid they are gonna run out of digital copies?

>>378755270
>3&K
Sega rejected that, and Chaotix fucking sucks, no a remaster won't save it because it's rotten to the core.

>>378758260
On Steam you get 10% off and on PS4 you get a bunch of themes and avatars, so if you're getting the game day one like I am then there's literally no reason not to pre-order.

>>378758260
the only point of a digital preorder is to later get hyped seeing trailers like >>378752858 and feel warm and fuzzy inside knowing you've alreagy got the game

>>378757839
They can do whatever, as long as they keep the "show don't tell" approach.

>>378757826
>Mega Tails
>Psycho Sonic
>Chuckle Knuckles

>>378758485
>as long as they keep the "show don't tell" approach
I don't remember them ever doing that aside from the pre Adventure and Advance games.

>>378756790
What did you fix?

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>>378756964
>sonic
>story

I'll buy it. $20 is a great price plus I'm not poor like pirates.

>>378758707
>deeeeeehh wats Sonic 3 & Knuckles?!?!?!?!

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>>378758720
Removed the adorable and replaced it with edge, as the franchise should be.

>>378758707
Yeah? All the 2D classics.
You really think they're going to add that that gay-ass talking from the adventure games in a classic Sonic game?

>>378758260
steam might get preloading

>>378758707
S3&K had several cutscenes, such as the snowboarding at Ice Cap, Knuckles trying to stop Eggman from pulling up the master emerald or the Death Egg launching

>>378758834
Disregard this post, I just noticed you mentioning pre-Adventure.

>>378758947
Go tell >>378758934

>>378756687
Guybrush Threepwood.

Of course, that's equivalent to $40 today, but taking wage stagnation into account, $30 might be a good modern rule.

>>378758934
but I don't remember any from S1 and 2, except for the ending sequence
>>378759012
forgot to add the rest to that post

>>378759024
https://fineleatherjackets.net/monkeyinflation

Oh my gawd. Get a job.

>>378759123
>Sonic 1
End of Scrap Brain Act 2

>Sonic 2
End of Wing Fortress

>Sonic CD
Metal Sonic's first appearance.

I'm amazed at the price to be honest. Figured the lowest it'd be is $30.
I guess the devs are happy to work for cheap.

Funnily enough, this means the Collector's Edition ($70) is a huge fucking ripoff when it originally seemed like a decent price. I've already seen a lot of posts about people canceling their CE pre-orders, kek.

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>>378752437

On one hand, 20 dollars for what's pretty much a fangame feels pretty jewish. But on the other, it's a step up from charging $15 for Sonic 4 (episode 1, can't remember how much episode 2 went for).

>>378759224
This anon isn't wrong.

>>378756094
Unironically this.

If this game would have came out five years ago, it would have cost 15$.
Why 20$ became the new norm ?

>>378758910
>preloading a 4MB game

>>378759284
The replay value will define the worth of the game. If the thing packs as much fun as the classics then 20 bucks is rather cheap. If the game is Sonic 4 tier of trash, then it's a rip off.

>>378752437
Good price.

>>378759386
because of this >>378752850 and >>378755407
https://fineleatherjackets.net/monkeyinflation

>>378757069
>>378758782
CD and 3&K have great stories and the games wouldn't be as good or memorable without them.

>>378759498
>If the game is Sonic 4 tier of trash
It isn't.

where's the guy who posts the bubble shield webm when you need him?

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Reminder that pirating this game means Sega will have 20 fewer reasons make games like this.

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>>378759742
I'm here, don't worry.

>>378759754
also reminder that Sonic Team is neck deep in Modern Sonic game design, so you can't trust them to make a decent classic game like this anymore. the odds of Taxman doing a better job are way higher than leaving it up to Sega

>>378756687
my mom

>>378759718
>CD and 3&K have great stories
They have great settings, stories are still nothing but eggman does bad stuff with extra doppelganger/rival/stalker around.

>>378759996
The last time Sega made worthwhile Sonic games were the Rush ones.

>>378760207
That was Dimps.

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This game better get a fucking physical release I don't care if it's $10 more.

>>378759718
>robotnik takes the emeralds/time stones/mcguffin again
>good story

>>378760238
Who needs Sega?

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>paying money for a romhack

>>378759473
>not being the first to upload a speedrun to youtube

pfft

>>378760392
>romhack
t. clueless shitposter

>>378760282
>modern games keep coming dangerously close to the stuff in the Ken Penders comics
>implying the classic games weren't good precisely for avoiding complicating things up
really activates my almonds

>>378760721
and you think that's "good" story? It's simple but definitely not good.

>>378759923
Thanks. Keep up the great work!

>>378752858
HE PRESSED THE MARIO BUTTON

>>378761198
*MANIA

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>>378760392
>Still "IT'S A ROMHACK" posting

Next you'll tell me about how they're reusing some stages again because you have nothing else

Normally, I'm cheap and don't buy game's full price, although I'm probably gonna buy it even if it's only mediocre. You gotta support SEGA when they attempt to do the right thing -- namely, going back to classic 2D sonic gameplay. I hope the game succeeds.

>>378761521
>SEGA
See: >>378757934

>>378759386
Those of us with jobs want you to leave. We set this up as a filter, you see.

>>378760282
All copies come with a redemption code, valid at the relevant online storefront of your choosing.

>>378760282
That wasn't all the story though, that's an overly simplistic summary

>>378752850
It's $36.63 now.

First collectors edition I bought in a long time. I might just trade the card code for a physical copy.

>>378760105
The settings and Knuckles were part of the story.

>>378761504
>Sonic fans are so starved for a good game that they don't mind paying for a romhack that's too lazy not to recycle levels

Riveting.

>>378762604
>romhack
t. retard

>my switch actually gets a game

Wew.

Nobody elses autism flare up at the full speed running animation?

It looks awfully cheap.

>>378762070
But true.
The side stuff is barely enough of a driver for each game. And S2 / 3&K relied on new main characters, which we CLEARLY don't need to be doing any more. So in the absence of additional main characters, that only leaves plot advancement/twisting (Chaos/ARK/Metal Sonic/Gaia/Eggmanland) or lore expansion (Sonic CD's Little Planet, 3&K's Floating Island and echidnas).

>>378762604
You may as well call Street Fighter 3 a SFa romhack.

>>378759386
Games cost a shit ton to make now vs back in 2000 or the 90s. Devs only get a small precent from final sales.

>>378757131
Exactly. In fact, why play stupid video games. They're good losers anyways

>>378756570
>watashit
>switshit
Fuck off

>>378765123
>/v/ hates /ourgirl/ now
What the FUCK happened?

>>378765521
nu-/v/ only likes frogs and wojaks

>378760392
Officially published by SEGA but keep trying and maybe you'll be able to convince a fellow retard.

>>378759923
Thats some good shit Anon

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>>378765936
You okay there?

Wow, thats all?

I can't believe SEGA is actually coming back.

>>378752437
Told you faggots that it's not gonna be more than that.

Are you faggots stupid? Sonic Mania looks like it might end up being the definitive 2D Sonic title, hands down. $20 for it is a fucking steal, I would pay as much as $35 especially considering the actual Genesis releases back in the day were a full $60 and you're paying for a game that's the same quality, possibly better.

>>378764030
>going to angel island
irrelevant
>knuckles takes the emeralds and helps eggman
didn't happen
>most of the locations and late game boss fights
didn't happen
>everything with the super emeralds
didn't happen
>knuckles mode getting its own tweaks and new content to make sense with the st**y

Notice how these story elements are connected to gameplay bu the way, because it's a video game

>>378752437
Shit, I'd pay 40

Most niggas probably wouldn't because it has pixels

>>378766880
I don't care if it was struck from canon, it sure as shit happened back in the '90's.

And yes, Sonic's story should happen in the context of gameplay, I'd say.

>>378766953
I don't even get the pixel art complaint, sure a lot of indie titles use it very poorly since they don't know how to draw but pixel art can look wonderful if the artists know what they're doing and this game looks great in it. It's also going above by not just simply looking like the Genesis titles since it's taking advantage of things we can do now.

>>378767150
Neither do I, Mania looks absolutely gorgeous.

$20 sounds like a fucking steal, desu.

>>378766953
Most probably won't play it because it's retro gameplay. Big reason people don't play Nintendo any more.

Fuck them, man, they don't know what they're missing out on!

>>378752437
welp now i have to buy it

I was fully expecting double that. I'll happily preorder, I can already see that it's worth that much.
Fuck man I sort of want it physical but PC is the only thing I have

>>378752858
>4 not on the elevator
What did they mean by this?

>>378767386
It's not state-of-the-art graphics.

That's literally the reason. The mass market is shallow, you know this.

>>378767643
They meant 4 isn't a 2D 16 but era game
>CD isn't on it
I know exactly what they meant by this

How is it that Sega has become so based and Nintendo is such shit?

>>378767643
That Mania is the true Sonic 4.

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>>378767728
>B-But Nintendo!!

Shut the fuck up you insecure fucking retard.

>>378767728
How is it Sega has outsourced the creation of their main franchise to someone who can do it properly, and I'm going to buy it on Nintendo's console, which is literally the comfiest console ever made?

>>378767715
CD isn't canon?

This is the only game ever where I bought the Collectors Edition. It was $60. Don't regret it one bit The Collectors comes with a PC code and I'll probably buy it on Switch while I wait for it to ship.

>>378767906
Unfortunately, the Segadrones are actually right, this time.

Of course, both companies are equally bad when we bring up recent Sonic games or Sonic Forces into the mix.

>>378767136
I'm glad we could come to an understanding.
But very simple story things like "Knuckles has an actual reason to be playable" are part of Sonic's charm too. Minimal story should tie into the setting, the bosses, the emeralds, and the playable characters, but there's no need for anything else.

>>378760721
Don't know why people think the stories in Sonic are bad. As cheesy and overcomplicated they are, they are executed well because of the cast of characters. Yeah if the characters weren't the ones carrying the story, this shit would be off the walls terrible and probably some high school goth kid's fantasy diary but because of Sonic and all the character interactions the stories are somewhat feasible.

And the lore in the Sonic series is pretty fucking cool, even in the classic days. I never really saw the story in Sonic games as a bad thing. At their best they are creative as hell and at their worst they are Mario tier bad, but that isn't all that common.

>>378767728

Sega only develops games, Nintendo tries to put its dick in the entire industry.

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IGN just released their review.

>>378767728
Because they could die if they're not very consumer friendly.
Notice how they haven't taken down any Sonic fan games yet they're at zero risk of losing the IP.

>>378752437
Great where can I buy?

>>378768827
>Using Sonic CD as an example in your bait image
I'll fucking end you. Sonic CD is actually my favorite next to 2.

>>378768010
>Fan starts working on Sonic tribute game, Sega finds out about it, is impressed and fund it, releasing it for a reasonable price
>Fan starts working on Metroid tribute game, Nintendo finds out about it, files lawsuits against the fan and purges all traces of the game from the internet

Sega does what Nintendon't

>>378752437
Sounds fair

>>378767728
Because SEGA actually acknowledges their fandom instead of Nintendo who

>Discontinues Miiverse
>Shutdown any fangames
>Make the worst possible voice chat method
>Have no sense of community with their fans
>Don't even hold fan events anymore unless it is at E3 or some Mall tour
>Don't listen to their fans when it comes to games

>>378769212
Miiverse is shit. I'm glad it's dead.

>>378769212
Miiverse was a fucking mistake.

>>378769270
>>378769316

The way Sakurai used it to communicate with the Smash community was fucking based though

>>378769073
He used CD because of that one video where the ign scoop guys said CD was the only good Sonic game.

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>>378769073

Should be free

>>378756687
Poor people

>>378769531
Go back to the Soviet Union

>>378769117
>>Fan starts working on Sonic tribute game, Sega finds out about it, is impressed and fund it, releasing it for a reasonable price
What game are you talking about here?

>>378769385
That and the posts that appeared on Miiverse stage and the Splatoon stages and lobbies were the only good uses of it which could've been done with any other SM platform with a hastag anyway. The rest was just cringe compilation fuel.

>>378769531
you have dozens of sonic games made by fans that are free. you can play those first.

>>378768691
>Of course, both companies are equally bad when we bring up recent Sonic games or Sonic Forces into the mix.

Nintendo has nothing to do with any recent Sonic game or Forces at all.

>>378759718
>the games wouldn't be as good or memorable
Bullshit, the stages alone make the games memorable.
Once again anon has proven he doesn't know what he's talking about.

>Sega outright legalizes romhacks of Genesis games
>Nintendo C&D's romhacks, sends takedowns to youtube videos of romhacks, speedruns, and TAS videos

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Why does he have to run like Naruto?

>>378770178
It's been a 'cool' manga pose since forever even way before Naruto.

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>>378770178
It looks rad as fuck.

is it drm free?

>>378768726
Sure, but all I'm saying is, you can't do "Hey, there's Knuckles!" forever. The only reason it makes sense for him to even be there is because he's the Guardian of the emeralds.

>>378770372
Sonic 2's hand position with CDs legs would be the perfect running sonic

>>378769779
...

We're comparing the two companies, pay attention. Jesus fuck.

>>378752437
What platform should I get this for?

I'm obviously gonna get Forces for my PS4, but should I get a more retro style Sonic on my Switch?

>>378770372
3&K had awful sprites, part of the reason I don't like that game as much as other people do. The rest of it is just bland visuals and music compared to 2 and CD imo.

>>378769941
>as
You even quoted it, learn to read more carefully.

>>378770671
>3&K had awful sprites
Fuck off, memer.

>>378770178
It's pretty stupid, if he had his arms at his sides like the Sonic 2 beta it would look way cooler.

>>378770672
The games would be just as memorable as they are now even if they didn't have story you idiot.

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>>378770372
Those extra animation frames are making me nervous and I have no idea why

>>378770669
If you have a switch it makes the most sense.

You get it on console and handheld with one purchase.. It's not like it will be gimped compared to other versions it's fucking sprites.

>>378770816
No they wouldn't.

$10 would have been pushing it but this is way overboard. Hopefully this shit doesn't have Denuvo or any other bs on it as there's no way im hell I'm giving these greedy fucks $20

$5 would have been pushing it but this is way overboard. Hopefully this shit doesn't have Denuvo or any other bs on it as there's no way im hell I'm giving these greedy fucks $10

>>378770765
They look shitty. See Super Sonic's snaggletooth for a frame of reference.

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>>378755270
>no Sonic Legacy Collection comprised of Taxman remasters of Sonic 1, 2, 3/Knuckles, CD, and completely remade, Sega Genesis-quality versions of the Game Gear games

>>378767150
>>378767386
Enough with the circle jerking

>>378771692
>agreeing that something looks good is circlejerking

Fuck off

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>grown-ass sonic fanatics so autistic they're comparing arbitrary aspects of the game to older titles as if has any bearing on anything
>no discussion on how to make gameplay better
>insisting like children that the first three games were perfect games

I don't even have to tell you to never change, because you never will anyways.

>>378752437
Perfectly reasonable

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Will the success of Mania finally break through to Izuka and show him how much of a hack he is? Who am I kidding? Of course not. He's going to keep Mario-ifying Sonic until there's nothing left.

>>378771764
There are a few fangames I'd like to point your towards if you're looking for discussion of how Sonic can potentially evolve.

>>378771764
What did he mean by this?

>>378771764
>>no discussion on how to make gameplay better
It's perfect the way it is. Also, why aren't you bringing any points that would make Classic Sonic """better""", you shitposting cunt?

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>>378772121
>It's perfect the way it is
HERE WE GO

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>>378771764
>>378772121
Technically Mania is improving on the previous games gameplay-wise. They've added a number of mechanics exclusive for each stage, added the Drop Dash and now shields effect the environment.

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>>378752858
I shouldn't get feels over this.

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>>378772292
>can't refute me
Every time.

>>378772303
I WAS talking about Mania here.

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Idk whether to get this game on XBone or PC

Help me out lads

>>378772292
>posting laughing white nigger instead of making an actual attempt at discussion and suggesting what kind of gameplay changes could make it better

>>378767715
CD is trash compared to the original trilogy (and Knuckles).

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>>378771764
Mania already seems to be improving Classic Sonic in a few ways: firstly, it's widescreen so those
>B-but I can't see where I'm going so I can't go fast!
-shitters no longer have an excuse.
Secondly, the physics seem to not only be on-point, but they seem to be better than the Genesis originals! Take a look at the Bubble Shield here >>378759923

Can't do that in Sonic 3, I'll tell you that.

>>378772390
>I WAS talking about Mania here.
Ah, I thought we were talking about Classic Sonic as a whole. That being said anything can be improved & expanded upon. I don't know what else they could add to the 2D games but if they make a sequel I bet they could come up with some neat ideas.

>>378772396
PC.
Mods, plus the ability to use a USB Genesis pad. It's an easy choice.

>>378771764
The drop dash mechanic fixes the problem of the older sonics where having to stop and time jumping kills all momentum.

Now you can hit the ground and blast off quickly. Great shit.

>>378772364
>4 isnt canon anymore
>CD not even on the elevator either

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>>378772487
http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/ItayKeren/20150511/243083/

Seems like a pretty fair price honestly.

>>378752437
Sounds pretty good.

>>378752437
>20 bux for a romhack
It's okay when Sega does it!

>>378773047
t. Nintenbro

>>378773047
Yeah you're right, better just shut them all down like Nintendo

>>378773205
>>378773274
>Charging for romhacks is ok now

>>378772487
Widescreen alone isn't going to fix that problem. Studiopolis already showcased some vertical camera issues, and it still may not be enough FOV for the fastest ramp/slope speeds in relation to human reaction time.

>>378752437
Maybe delude fanboys can get this shit fundamentally broken game design to work, who knows? Maybe it'll be sonic 2 level playable

Is this on PS3? I don't have anything else but I really want to play this. I remember when Sonic 4 came out and I was so fucking disappointed in it. Then I remember being excited for Classic Sonic in Generations, but then Modern turned out to be great and Classic was all off in how he felt and controlled. But anyone who's played a Sonic game on the Mega Drive, you can look at the webms in this thread and tell Sonic moves exactly how he should. Looking real forward to this.

20 bucks is pretty good actually, doesn't stop poor people from pirating it though. Also shitposters seemed to be going full force this time.

>>378773047
>romhack
I hate this childish trivialization.
We go from people who actually like videogames praising AM2R saying "I'd pay money for this" to pinheads mocking when Sega allows it.
You're worse than deviantart tier Sonic kids..

reminder that CD wasn't on the elevator because little planet vanishes and CD also never happened due to the plot basically retconning itself

>>378773912
How?

>>378773047
>>378773389
>romhack
t. braindead cuck

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>>378773047
You know what they say.
Sega does what Nintendon't

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>>378773912
I think they didn't add it since placement might be weird or they overlooked it while drawing it.

>>378773532
You don't have a fucking computer?

>>378773746
The Boys Who Cried Romhack and deviantArt autists are probably the same crowd. After all, they're mad about their game being subverted just like the old school Sonic fans were when the travesties first started.

>>378773958
Well, it depends. If the time stones are how you beat the game, then I guess it doesn't. If you beat the game by going to the past, though, then you stop eggman's shit on little planet before eggman ever actually arrives.
Also what >>378774015 said.

>>378774015
>past
>not bad future

cmon sega give ur fans what they want

>>378773912

I don't remember the plot ever retconning itself. Little Planet disappeared not get wiped from existence

>>378752437
That's not half bad a price.

>>378752437
Hey that's pretty good.

>>378752437
Considering I wasted 50 dollars on Shadow the Fucking Hedgehog, 18 bucks for preordering a potentially good game seems like it won't be as big of a waste.

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>>378774142
>Wanting the most overdone part of CD.
Past is much better. Besides Act 2 will probably give you your future/Metal Sonic wank.

>>378770372
Jesus the Sonic 3 sprite looks like dogshit

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>>378774661

You spent fifty fucking bucks on shadow the hedgehog?

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>>378752437

>>378758901
>kuckles
I'm surprise no one noticed it already.

>>378774726
It's a major improvement over the first two.

>>378774731
I was young, stupid, and recently got money without having to work for it.

I still regret it to this day. I will always wonder what could have been.

>>378767665
Mania 2 should be hand-drawn.

Played Sonic 3 for the first time and really didn't enjoy it.

Worst special stages. Didn't like the artstyle. Stages are very long and mostly boring.

I DID like the new powers, the way the levels instantly transition, new stage gimmicks and the boss fights though.

>>378774661
>potentially good game
It's confirmed amazing.

>>378774851

No it isn't. I mean, maybe in detail, but not in aesthetics. Sonic 1/2 are simplistic but in a way that has a charm. 3 just looks ugly.

>>378774952
But Mania 1 is hand-drawn?

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>>378774952

I would fucking cum

>>378775059
This desu the Sonic 3 sprite looks kinda squashed

>>378774142
past has arguably more interesting visuals, and arguably the better music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHLaaOSaOY8

>>378759024
But the Secret of Monkey Island cost $60 when it was released.

>>378752437
Fair price to pay.

>>378770870
It's because the rest of the body isn't moving at all. This is fine when the animation is just two simple frames, but Mania's over the top high rate subpixeling increases your expectations for the whole sprite and makes the stationary parts look uncanny.

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>>378774952
More games need to have their assets drawn traditionally.

>>378775227
That's the joke.

>>378774015
CD's placement is the eternal debate that people get super butthurt about.

It's also thematically relevant for the shot as each button before M is each character's first game.

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>>378775227

>>378774986
>Sonic 3 for the first time and really didn't enjoy it
faggo-
>Worst special stages.
Irredeemable human filth.

Call me when they say something about Generations 2 and not this 2D-only thing.

>>378770765
3&K's sprites were poorly downsampled messes.

>>378775448
is this what passes as bait these days?

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>>378775207

Stop saying desu, you know there's a fucking word filter for a reason, you sound like a fucking retard when you say those god awful abbreviations.

>>378775372
How can you find turning at right angles into balls over and over fun?

>>378775226
i dont know man, the visuals in the bad future as some comfy dystopian shit

anon >>378774716 is right though, the bat future has been over-exposed

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you fat fucks probably spend $20 on food every day, stop complaining

>>378775119
No, it's sketched and then rendered as a sprite, pixel by pixel. It's almost more like creating an impressionist painting than drawing after a certain point.

>>378775513
If you chose to believe so.

I personally just don't like the 2D Sonics.
Mind you, I think SA 2 is also quite bad, but I'm looking forward to Generations 2 or whatever it's going to be called.

>>378775614
this tbqh-bbq-chiquitabanana

>>378775614
How can you find auto running in a half pipe fun?

How can you find a rotating maze fun?

Basically stop asking retarded questions.

>>378774952
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMHmn8atkM4

>>378752437
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJnm7janvUA

>>378774952
Let's have this discussion once we see Mania's sales numbers.

>>378775801
The auto running actually has you jump around and diving bombs and collecting shit and is even more fun with a friend and has goat music.

Sonic 1 is ok. Still challenging and requires skill.

Sonic 3 blue balls is just boring as fuck. What exactly about it do you enjoy?

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>>378775714
Hey, I only spend like $6 per day on McDonald's.

>>378775997
how do you even survive? $6 is barely enough for one mcdisgusting meal, let alone 3

>>378775901
It's digital mostly so we might never get accurate numbers.

>19 coins

Yall know the DLC will add up to a total of 79.99 right ?

>>378775714

Twenty fucking bucks on food every day, are you out of your goddamn mind?
For five bucks at the local chinese joint I can get a serving of fried veggies and rice, shrimp, king prawn, and slices of duck and beef, and I only go there very other day.

You're loaded as fuck if you spend 20 fucking dollars on food every day. Fuck you.

>>378775973
>The auto running actually has you jump around and red spheres and collecting shit and has goat music
What's the issue then?

>>378775824
More professionally and better crafted, obviously.

>>378776056
It's enough for two burgers and a drink. I don't eat a lot anyways and I always make sure to keep plenty of little snacky shit lying around, saltines and the like.

>>378775901
The reveal trailer has 3x the views of Forces' CaC despite that shit being a meme. It's gonna sell.

>>378776243
Are you staying in shape at least? That doesn't sound like the healthiest diet.

>>378775997
You could save money and eat better at the same time by buying some meat, cheese, bread and veggies at your grocery store, you know. Maybe some butter if you want to grill something. A cartoon if eggs for variety, too.

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>>378752437
That is not bad at all. Damn!

>>378776343
I was like 147 lbs last I checked, not in danger of contracting diabetes anytime soon. I make sure to eat my fruits and veggies, so I don't think I'm deficient on any vitamins. Got like no fucking muscle though, I could probably get beaten up by a teenager.

>>378774851
>pillow shading
>major improvement
>fucking so shit at sprite art they recycle the head from the running animation for the idle sprite
It's dogshit

>>378776751
>I have no idea what pillow shading is
Spend at least 2 seconds on Google before shitposting, faggot.

>>378775531
desu desu

>>378776076
>>378776250
Sigh, FINE, why hand drawn?

Moreover, find me a style that conveys mechs/bots/jewels/islands well, because I don't think any Sonic animation heretofore has meshed all of those things adequately. Makes them as enticing as the sprite-based art.

Or would it be as simple as some shading/palette changes to an animation style that Sonic has already used? One from another game/series/cartoon, perhaps?

>>378752437
PREORDER IS 17.9 IN STEMA, SHOULD I?

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>>378776898
Mania's key art has great looking emeralds.

>>378752437
gotta keep the kids... sorry, shareholders happy

I am waiting to see if the game has a fucking fps limiter.

Because I still can't play CD unless I change my monitor's refresh rate

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>>378776972
Yes, do it for him.

>>378776448
I'm just too fucking lazy to cook shit. It's easier to just buy a burger or two per day and then go to the store every other weekend to stock up on shit like apples, carrots, turnips, and crackers, things I can eat with my hands without any preparation.

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>>378759718
I understand what you are saying 100% especially with 3K but it isn't the story that's great, it's the presentation. The way it tells a story and has characters interact without any words at all is impressive, and the many visual setpieces like the death egg falling out of the sky are very memorable. It's what puts 3K ever so slightly above Sonic 2 for me.

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>>378776882
You should learn what things are before you open your trap faggot

>>378777262
Agreed.

>>378777324
Sonic's sprite in 3 looks nothing like that, you complete retard.

>>378777028
Sure, in key art, but meshing the islands theme as we see in Sonic CD/OVA/early Sonic and mechanical things is still pretty difficult. Even then, the characters are a bit too saccharine right now in the animations. Until I see Sonic acting AND looking more snarky, I appreciate Mania's hand drawn work, but am not sold.

>>378777171
I'd like to give classic sonic a hug.

Tall sonic is a fag.

>>378776898
Sonic 2 HD

>>378777324
This picture is so damn old I almost had a nostalgia trip.

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>>378776898
>>378777520
You're overthinking it, anon.

>>378752858
was the animation done by that boxer hockey guy?

>>378777203
Then make a sandwich you fat fuck.

>>378777856
Tyson Hesse, yes.

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>>378777856
Yes, along with his wife Kinuko and some other guy that I can't remember.

>>378777856
Yes:
https://twitter.com/tyson_hesse/status/869600426508693504

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>>378776898
>Sigh
>obsessing this much about how enticing jewels and islands look
autism

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>>378777028
Man that Eggman looks perfect.
But the Chaos Emeralds in the first few Sonic games didn't have a diamond cut, they had an emerald cut. The Super Emeralds had the diamond cut. Seems weird to go with this post-Adventure design for them. Or are those little Super Emeralds?

>>378776898
You realize the only difference between modern "sprite" art and hand drawn sprites is thqt one takes more time, right?

Look at the Dragon's Trap remake for a good example: it's just better shading, clean lines, smoother animation and a few extra details since they're not using tilesets. A hand-drawn Sonic Mania would just be a higher res, higher budget version of the same thing. The style doesn't have to change.

>>378778209
It would honestly feel weirder to go back to the classic emerald shape instead of using the current design.

>>378778209
Most people who played the old games just thought the emeralds in game were pointy on the back side like a diamond cut shown from the top.

>>378778281
Dragon's Trap remake didn't even have different sprites for facing left and facing right like the original did.

post ur favorite zones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RngA75CFd4Y

>>378778209
The entire point of that render is to explain that they were always diamond cut, we see just viewing them from the wrong angle.

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>>378778209
Technically they were also like that in Sonic the Fighters.

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>>378752858
What did they mean by this?

>>378778416
The current design is also more iconic.

>>378778416
No it wouldn't, they're already using the old designs for everything else.

>>378778472
That's stupid.

>>378778476
True, and in Sonic R too. I think Sonic 3 was the last main game to do it.

>>378778447
Gotta make cuts somewhere when everything else is aces.

It's seriously just a matter of time, money and human resources.

I feel guilty only paying that much. Whereas Nintendo's Wii Boxing 2 costs $60.00.

>>378778604
Yeah good thing they put in a gender swap mode instead!

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>>378778209
You're fucking with me. You have to be fucking with me. You are having the fuck with me.

You cannot be this hung up on nonsensical 20 year old details like these and NOT be legitimately diagnosed with severe autism and ass burgers.

I would love to see the day a die-hard Mario fan come up to me and go into an analysis about how the super mushroom from mario bros 3 has the wrong colors and should be considered the canon design.

Why is it only the sonic fanbase?
Why ALWAYS sonic?

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>>378778581
>"The artist chose a bad angle originally" is stupider than "maybe they're tiny Super Emeralds!"

>>378778720
Relax, Anon, he didn't seem angered or bothered by it necessarily, just a bit interested that they chose that decision of using those designs since the rest of the game is so hardcore on keeping everything classic-styled.

>>378778449
Lava Reef, shame Flying Battery got in over it.

>>378778720
You're getting mad over someone pointing out a minor detail and you think you have room to call anyone else an autist?
It's just a little observation, chill out.

>>378778812
No, I mean the idea that it's supposed to be a retcon is stupid. It's more reasonable just to say they felt like changing it because the newer design is more iconic.

>>378778698
I'm sure that one extra sprite set took just as much time as re-animating every single character.

>>378778978
More or less, since it's drawing a totally new one instead of editing existing ones.

I have no doubt that mania will be the best Sonic game except.... how do you top Blue Sphere for the special stages? It can't be done

>>378773532
Taxman's engine can run on a 2011 smartphone, any toaster made in the last ten years or so should have no problem running this game.

>>378778209
Sonic 3D Blast was made by a western company.

The emerald always had a diamond cut they're just seen from above.

>>378752437
Cheaper than I thought it was going to be. I expected them to sell it for $30 or $40, tops.

>>378775341
>each button before M is each character's first game
>4 buttons before M
>3 characters
What did he mean by this?

>>378778479
Reference to one of Sonic's early designs.

>>378778720
All of the original Mario games had different styles and designs for their power-ups, including the mushrooms and enemies. It wouldn't make sense to say one should take precedent over the other, and the ones that tend to take precedent are World for some things like Koopas and Mushrooms, and 3 for others like Fire Flowers and Goombas.

I want Sammy to review this game. This is exactly what he was fucking screaming about and now it's finally coming.

>>378779075
Yeah man, just "edit" it! Throw it into the magical editing room and fix it, it's not like they'd have to draw an entirely new set of animations for most actions or something!!!

Seriously, adding one new character that's functionally a reskin of another is way less of a moneysink than redrawing five entire character spriteshsets. If you don't get that, you don't understand animation at all.

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>>378773532
>Is this on PS3? I don't have anything else but I really want to play this.
No, only Switch, PS4, Xbox One & PC.

>>378779235
You'd think they would be shown from the side at least once like the Super Emeralds are if that was the case, but I suppose it's ambiguous enough to go with that explanation.

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>>378779346
He's a Chad now. No time for childish shit.

>>378769531
kys poorfag, it's a new game and shouldn't be free.

How can sonic run so fast without swinging his arms in sync with his legs?

Seems impossible desu

>>378779202
Then why isn't Mania coming to smartphones?

>>378779462
>bowtie
>sammysaiyangodkx
He's obviously not a chad, but he seems to have mellowed out which is good.

>>378779513
We don't know, but what the Anon said is true, it's how Sonic 1, 2 & CD are on smartphones after all.

>>378779462
>He's a Chad now
>went to prom alone

>>378779363
>I don't know how modern animations work, it must be magic!
Do you know what a layer is, anon?

>>378777652
I really should look at that again.
Maybe? Post examples.

>>378777823
>>378778087
>wanting appropriate style is autism
You're not artists. That shit is all in the details.

>>378778281
Oh please. You can't tell me that Sonic Mania's sprites convey the same fluidity as hand-drawn. You can still see squares, for fuck's sake - the "light shading" area in the upper left part of his head still comes across as glossy instead of quills or fur.
Example: Compare Shantae 3/DS to HGH. Ignore any major biological style changes, focus on the colors and lack of limitations.

>>378779513
Most smartphone users don't want to shell out $20 for a single app.