F

F ;_;

F

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>>378748445
just shoot target twice since gun has faster fire rate now

>>378751138
maybe on motionless bots
>implying they won't blink/wraith/nade/sleep/whatever the fuck away before you even get a chance to deal the second shot

>>378751236
Spoken like a true Silver shitter.

>>378751363
t. bronze

Good

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>>378748445
haha

Every attack hero is going to run rampant now. People botched about symmetra before. The shit storm has just begun.

BAWWW NERF TRACER GENJI

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>>378751531
>BAAAAW FLANKERS
Howdy pardner, its 12 oclock

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how can shitters not handle a hook

>>378751663
This.
It's so easy to spot the Bronze\Silver casuals\retards

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>there are people that got a golden hog gun at the end of this season

F

>>378751138
>Hook
>Get one shot off
>Lucio bumps you
>Trace rewinds
>Junkrat mines you
>Pharah blasts off
>McCree stuns you
>Winston jumps away
>Roadhog will just shoot, hook shoot
>Ana will sleep you
>Russian-bitch will bubble
>Mei freezes
>Dva will shield or fly away
>Rein will smash your face in

About the only people who this will reliably get is 76 and Bastion. Otherwise, they completely negated the point of Roadhog, which was the fact that he was a one-trick pony.

People don't realize that both his primary and alt fire have a fuck-huge drop off--making him fire all that much faster does nothing if he does shit for damage.

It's still amazing that Roadhog gets nerfed to fuck and back, but Dva and Rein still OP as fuck.

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>>378751709
>There are people who got Mccree/Reaper golden guns

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can we talk about this shit map instead? holy fuck I didnt think it was possible but they somehow made map worst than hanamura.

>>378751236
>muh one shot can be countered now!

typical roadhog main.

>>378751138
its just not the same anon

does that mean orisa isn't the worst tank now?

doubt it but i can dream

lmaoing @ hog mains rn

>>378748445
what happen

>>378751614
>McCree doing anything against a genji
Topkek

>>378752030
33% less damage, 33% faster fire rate and 25% increased ammo size. Nothing permanent yet.

I would never have thought how many retards using streetpig as a crutch are on here.
He's still good, you just have to actually do something now outside of fishing for free kills on an eight second cooldown.

>sold the game 4 months ago
>now my favorite character and only small chance that i would come back to the game are also dead

thank god i sold it so early still got more than 50% of the original price back

>>378751763
he still insta kill tracer, the combo does around 180-200 damage still.

>>378752096
>flashbang
>headshot
Wp pardner

>>378751704
>I take overwatch VERY seriously

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>>378752096
not fast enough ninja man

>>378752195
Genji getting close enough to be stunned

Spotted the silver scrub

>STILL playing overwatch

lmao kill yourself, the only good thing about it is the porn

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>>378748445
>Hook Tracer mid dash after her third dash
>She's been zipping around like a tard all game.
>Her momentum causes her toe to land behind a wall.
>Steel hook phases through her and she gets away scot free.

Why did they change it that landing a good hook broke if any part of the enemy was out of sight after it hand landed? Te hit box was the only thing that needed fixing. Hell, I'd even argue pulling people around terrain is fine. You don't see projectiles doing no damage just because they managed to get behind cover after it had connected.

>>378748445
>all these F faggots

Finally Roadhog can be used for what he was really meant to be, punishing badly positioned enemies by pulling them to his team, not fucking deleting everything he sees every few seconds.

>>378748445
roadhog purpose is to punish bad positioning and hooking an enemy for YOUR team to kill.

>Try some solo queue
>Team instantly picks Genji, Hanzo and Widowmaker
What do?

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>>378752096
>That one McCree who ulted a Genji and insta killed himself

>YOU MEAN I HAVE TO COMMUNICATE AND COOPERATE WITH MY TEAM TO MAKE MY HOOKS EFFECTIVE?, I NEVER SIGNED UP FOR TEAMWORK IN THIS TEAM GAME FUCKING BLIZZARD JEWS

I can't wait to see all the Hog crutch fags go crashing down the ratings.

Get fucked One Tricks. Mercy is next.

>>378748445
the only nerf I seen is his damage shot won't instant killed most of the characters and now had 3 buffs that only justify his head hit box and fire rate. he's at least balance.

>>378752494
Pick roadhog and carr-

Oh wait, nevermind, now you're at the mercy of your shit team

>>378752494
play comp. this is why I only play comp.

>>378752387
Because Roadhog wouldn't be in the hooked guys line of sight when the stun happens. Which makes them feel bad.
Overwatch is about making people feel good.

>>378752494

Leave the game before the hero selection is finished.

>>378748445
This literally only affects shitters, any decent Hog with a decent team is going to kill anyone hooked, every other tank can at most disrupt without teammates helping, wh should Hog be special?

>be tank
>but also 1 shot people

it was dumb

scatter arrow better be next, fuck that stupid slant eyed cheap bullshit

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>>378752320
>Genji doing anything outside of close range
>Not getting sniped down by a semi competent McCree at anything after mid range.
>Long/mid range Genji practically healing me with his attacks.

The cowboy gets better outside of bronze my son, maybe you'll find that out some day :^)

>>378752734
>be dps
>be best tank buster in the game
>have 600 health

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>>378751763
at least you still get a free zenyatta kill.

I don't play hog but there is literally nothing wrong with 1 shotting a 200hp hero.

I hope the Reaper change makes him more viable.

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our time has come once again, rejoice brothers.

>>378752798
>Genji is only good close range
Wrong
>Sniping a genji
Never gonna happen outside of bronze
>Hitting a genji more than once long range
Any good genji would immediately zip to a health pack or behind cover.

McCree shitters are so pathetic

>>378752917
His teleport needs a change, it feels too clunky.

>>378752917
20% lifesteal

I think he's one of the best heroes in the game now

>>378752798
and then he's back to useless by the time you hit gold.
mccree is dick.

>>378752913

there clearly was because they nerfed it

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>Playing Orisa on Moonbase Alpha defense
FUN TIMES AHEAD LADS

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>>378753038
>and then he's back to useless by the time you hit gold.
The higher the rank the more he's picked, scrublord.

>>378752734
>Big, easy target
>Immobile as fuck
>Loud, have to be deaf and blind not to know where he is at all times.
>No armour, easily punished and feeds enemy ults easily.
>Range is close to semi close.

Damage and high health were his only things. No he is just health with nothing else to work for him. Oh, don't say hook, anyone getting hit by hook after 2.0 is just retarded.

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>>378751709
>>378751889
>There are people who got ANY of the gaudy, ugly golden guns

>>378752917
I'd rather it be an alt fire ability than a passive, seems like it might be too good as a permanent passive. Like if he could mark a target or activate the passive as temporary.

>>378753136
see >>378753136's pic

post your career profile ;^)

Is sombra's gun still terrible or they fixed it somewhere along the way?

>>378752998
Maybe if you use it like a retard.

>>378752030

dey tooker

>>378753143

your retarded 2bh

his kit should have been undertuned from the getgo since hooks in general are op

>>378752959
>These ass pained Genjis dragging down their teams, may as well be a 5v6
Insta lock more kiddo, thanks for the free wins.

>>378752998
Easy fix:
>he teleports instantly
>leaves a temporary doppelganger that can take damage and hurts the real one as well

>>378753143
>anyone getting hit by hook after 2.0 is just retarded
post your SR with timestamp

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just get a nice healslut like me to hand hold and a damage boost you and you still one shot 75% of cast.

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>>378753218
McCree > Genji
Ded.

>>378753336
I want witch Mercy to step on me

>>378751763
Wow its almost like Roadhogs team needs to work with him! All it would take is an idle shot at the hooked hero while they are still being reeled in to secure the kill. Fuck not even. I often completely steal the kill from Hog as Zenyatta because its so easy to hit them. I've had Hogs get mad at me for doing it.

Why is blizzard obsessed with fucking with the same 8 characters while half the roster is unplayable? how many fucking times have they tried to balance McCree?

>>378753314
You first, lets see how bad your rank is that Hog is still a problem.

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>people unironically thinking genji has a chance against a mccree that can aim
top kek how is gold?

>>378753402
Doesn't Enumbre cheat though?

>>378753402
>spic

what a surprise

>>378753303
>Point out Hog flaws
>Best comeback is "your retarded 2bh"

Sure proved your point, also.
You're*

>>378753582
delete this

>>378752886
Nope, been tested to hell in PTR. His wierd hixbox actually makes the RNG pellets from Roadhog's gun miss more often than not.

>>378748445
Good.

Fat faggot was a liability anyway. Gave the other team free ults all day.

>>378753591
>>378753582
>Asks for rank
>Higher than them
>S-s-spic!
>C-c-cheater!
Never gets old.

>>378751709
I think the Golden guns look fucking retarded. I don't understand why anyone wants to look at that shit. Give me alternate weapon skins and shit. Fuck let me use other skins guns and I would be happy even if they kept the price the same.

>>378753402
>12 26 16
> not profile
> not you
kys any time my dude. no one will mind

>>378751709
>people still play this shitpile enough to get golden guns

I placed high enough for one in S1 and dropped the game after that. It's moba garbage and they need to remove ults

>>378753582
All the "pro" TF2 snipers that got banned in the big banwave migrated to OW.

>>378752886
clips dot twitch dot tv/InnocentSecretiveCasetteKippa

Definitely balanced!!!

>>378753657

>RNG spread ever on shotguns

All shotgun blasts should have a perfectly square or round spread with zero variability for consistencies sake.

>>378751138
this seriously.
I don't even get that people don't realize that if you grab someone now, he'll still be in your immediate range with very low HP.
And you can still full combo one shot with Right Click > Hook > Left Click.

ROADHOG IS NOW BALANCED YOU FUCKS

>>378753751
So where is your rank then? Stay jelly with your gold rank in your dog shit game :^)

>>378753143
We shouldn't bear bad OP design just because the alternative is it being useless

>>378753720
I was just browsing /v/ and saw the picture and hovered over it and saw the name, like I said doesn't Enumbre ACTUALLY cheat though?

>>378753143
>he's an ult battery
>ignore the fact he gains ult from his own damage too

>his range is close!
>ignore his hook and right click that gives him better range than half the offensive classes

Is this the thread where everyone pretends their good and calls everyone else gold shitters?

>>378753313
Teleport instantly just turns him into Tracer. However, a doppelganger is a good idea. Give him the ability to setup false teleports to throw people off.

>>378753846
thanks for conceding to me. i'll expect your apology later in the mail. i don't want you to embarrass yourself too much here

>>378753858
All the autistic rank whores use aimbots

>>378752913
I think it was because of the stun that comes afterwards. Yes, Reaper can also one-shot them, but they could move to prevent that.

>>378753826
>>378751763

>>378753981

>>378753826
>you can full combo someone in a 3 move sequence that takes enough time for them to move out of the way and avoid the hook or headshot you to death
really gets those neurons firing

>>378753881
>Highlights the semi close range
>Ignores what he says.
>Brings up hook
>Despite it only being a problem in gold and below
>Gains ult from damage

I assume you mean his heal? That's just another 300 hp worth of ult charge for the enemy, especially if he does it out in the open.

>>378753806
But it's not, which is why the hook, shoot, melee is not even a guaranteed kill with these new changes. Hell, you can legitimately do less than 100 dmg in a near point blank shot.

>>378753534
but mcree is never used in pro scene and genji is? what am i missing here?

>>378748445

Good, now you stupid fucks actually have to turn your brain on past landing your hook.

>>378753981

>WAHHH I WANNA HOOK AND WIN THE GAME
>WHY DOESN'T HOOK DO 6 TRILLION IMPACT DAMAGE
>MY WIN CLASS WAS NERFED
>I'M STILL THE STRONGEST 1V1 CLASS IN THE GAME BUT NOW I HAVE TO SHOOT TWICE WAHHHHHH

All Hog mains should be gassed. Braindead easy class.

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>>378753954
>Still won't post his rank
>"I-I-I-I win! I'm going now!"

Just how embarrassed of your gold rank are you son?

>>378753534
>every mccree can aim both in front and behind themselves at the same time
typical mccree shitter

>>378754131

Literally shoot again. You now have reaper's fire rate while still having superior damage and range.

>>378754091
Every respectable roadhog has used this combo since the fucking beginning of the game. Cause you could one shot tanks with this.
I don't even know why I'm posting in this thread since it's full of people in silver/gold.
And don't you fucks try to deny, every damn fucking time we're talking multiplayer, it's found out that all the people discussing are fucking low tier pleb.
/v/ just sucks at games

>he's still desperately trying to save face
lmao at your "life" dude

>>378751763

they could nerf every tank a million times and they would still be op because you win by standing on the point

>>378753790

Pulling someone out of position is already a retardedly overpowered maneuver. ESPECIALLY someone like zen who can't do diddly shit after being pulled out of position. If you think this is a problem you likely need to start playing winston or sym instead

>>378754237
>He cant flick shot
That guy calling you gold was being generous I see.

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>>378754237
t.console player
t.silver

>>378754374
t. delusional shitter

>>378754458
>Gets demolished over and over
>Has to resort to insults in the end.

It really is like playing with a Genji main.

>>378752387
HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WOOOOOOOOOOOOW YOU'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO SAY THAT

People who complained about Roadhog are the same people who complain about Slark in Dota 2.

You know they're bad players who keep getting caught out and don't understand how to exploit weaknesses.

>>378754836
>posts someone else's account because he's ashamed (rightly) of bronze
>pretends he has the high ground for playing the worthless trashcan mccree
>reaction image response
I don't like being on top. the only thing to look at from here is the excrement at the bottom

>>378754967

Roadhog didn't have a single check in the game beyond 'gang up on him 3v1 after he burns hook'. He wins literally every 1v1 matchup in the game. Calling people who disagree with you bad isn't an argument.

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With the current changes Hog would be perfect if his alt fire had two or three more meters. Other then that any decent hog player should be able to adjust. The only people really mad are those who literally needed the combo to do anything. If you never killed some one with a clutch alt fire then you honestly shouldn't be playing hog in the first place. Hooking squishies in a tight hallways isn't impressive.

>>378755049
>Can't even click the right post number
Shit aim confirmed.

>>378753790
Jesus that guys sounds like a side character out of 8 Crazy Nights or some Adam Sandler movie

>>378755240

>hook, meatshot, melee still leaves most of the class with a sliver of health
>you just have to pin the trigger post combo to finish them off with your new gattling shotgun

OH THE HORROR HOG IS RUINED

>Roadhog is a major problem because he's chosen 18 percent of the time
>But Reinhardt, who is LITERALLY CHOSEN 100 FUCKING PERCENT OF THE TIME is just fine and requires no changes, he's fine the way he is

I wouldn't mind this shit so much if they went after the people on top and worked their way to the bottom, but it's always the characters that shitters are complaining about. Balance for the fucking top and it'll be WAY better for the bottom.

>>378754292
>range
wut?

>>378755647
>>378751763

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>>378751763
its almosts as if... ROADHOG AINT SUPPOSED TO BE A SOLO ASSASSIN

>>378755647
Yeah, it's not like half the cast have some sort of escape/mobility/defense or debilitating skill to use before you can fire again, amirite?

>>378751763
>D.Va and Rein OP
Ahahahahahahahahahahahah, this fool is serious too

>>378755734

>Rein hammer still persists momentarily meaning you can spin like a retard and hit people in a 360 arc
>Rein Q stun still persists meaning you can walk into the ult after it's used and still somehow get stunned

>>378755857
>>378756053

Your non argument has been addressed multiple times. Just literally shoot the fucking person twice. Squishies should be left with less than 50 health on a hook and you have four fucking shots to finish them with. Git fucking good and hop off the crutch.

>>378755734
Rein being picked 100% is old news. Dive comp has pushed Rein pick rate down the shitter now.

Honestly, the only really major issue is that when he latches onto someone they're stunned. The game would be more interesting if during the drag they could actually shoot back.

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>one person posts a rank
>Everyone else calls him shit, hacker, spic or fake
>No one else has the balls to post their own rank because they are afraid of getting BTFO on an anonymous board.

So sad. Here, I'll start you pussies off. Not a very high rank but at least I posted it.

>>378756053

>My hook has counterplay? This is bullshit! I'm entitled to win any engagement I choose to participate in! What's team play?

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>>378756212
henlo

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>>378756212
I just got into the thread but here was mine s4, currently still doing placements for 5. no bully.

>>378756214
>Being countered by half the playable characters means he's totally balanced

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>>378756212
placed in silver.
played until i got to play and went back to quick play

>>378756385
>>378756361
No bully here my man, at least you fucking nutted up and posted unlike the McCree/Genji pussies.

>>378752998
They need to fix the PC controls for his teleport. Right now it's shit because of console shitters but you should be able to move it like an aoe ability in WoW

>>378756517
got to plat*

>>378756517
>went back to quick play
why? is truly hell.

>>378752917
You hope? Do you understand how much damage reaper does if he's hitting most of his pellets on big fat targets like tanks?

>>378756440

>Classes that once instantly died are now merely left crippled and out of position
>Anywhere close to countering hog

This is fucking great man. The sounds of squealing trash players deprived of their brainless win ability are too much. I'm gonna fucking nut my dude.

>>378755186
>Roadhog didn't have a single check in the game

Gee a massive target with poor range and mobility heavily reliant on landing a hook, otherwise feeds ultimates.

That's like saying a good Widow has no checks because they keep landing headshots.

There was nothing wrong with Roadhog, just bads crying over being bad.

>>378756562
It needs to be steaaaaallllllttttthhhhyyyyyy! What's the fucking point of a short range fighter loudly announcing by screaming "DEATH IS COMING 4 U SOLES!" every time he fucking teleports? Its the same with Sombra coming out of invis by shouting "HA! YOU FOOLS! I WAS BACK HERE THE WHOLE TIME!" in Spanish or some shit.

>>378756712
280.

looks like roadhog is roadkill

>>378748445
Honestly, I'm fine with the hook change for the most part, but I think it should still 1 hit quit genji. Why does that slippery little nip get a pass when Pharah and Zen still get 1 shot? Roadhog is a great deterrent to keeping a genji from dragon fucking your team up the ass and now I don't know if he will be.

>>378756702
because i get adrenaline rushes in comp, and i don't want to feel that way about a video game
i just want comp point for goldy guns

S to spit on his grave.

>>378756859
Honestly, if they're serious about this, I want them bring back 35% Ironclad Bastion.

>>378756938
its just gaem man

>>378756752

>Nothing wrong with an eight second cooldown magnetized death sentence with no direct counters

You were reliant on a crutch. The crutch was taken away. You are now worthless. It's fucking great. Friendly reminder you still two shot most of the cast with your fucking insanely powerful shotgun you fucking shitter.

>>378756842
before or after armor?

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>>378756053
By that logic ANYTHING that doesn't immediately kill an opponent might as well be a no kill.

>>378756440
>not being able to do a hook combo insta kill now equates to being countered but any class that might have a change to escape.

Man I knew this was going to happen to him since he came out but damn it's still depressing. People crying on /v/ to people crying on the forums, I figured it would happen eventually.

I bet Pharah is next too. Thanks to Mercy.

>>378756064
The game revolves around Reinhardt, he's right about Rein needing some change.

>>378748445
Roadhog is garbage with Pharah around, even without nerfs.

>>378748445
thank fucking god. hook+1 shot was cheap shit, only faggots who can't play the game main roadhog.

>>378756842

Reaper meatshot only does 140 though, right? 280 implies point plank headshot which I think is unreasonable in most fights.

>>378756752
>hook
>short range

Roadhog players are the most delusional faggots in the game. It's designed as a team shooter and Roadhog is an extremely low skill combo of hook stun kill. Get over it. It's well overdue. Your hook should require team play or thought to pull off a gank, not one shotting someone every 8 seconds.

>>378757032
Yeah, it's not as if hook isn't made to deal with flankers from the current dive comp meta or anything. Surely, letting them live is a great way to protect your team from their harassment.

>>378757016

Show us your rank. I want to see the rank of most of the people who actually complain like this.

>>378751889
Feels good

>>378757118
>Le pharah mercy is overpowered meme
The most fragile character in the game and and has to rely on their team to be competent in order to not die flying around in the sky at low speed with another low speed character easily shot out of the sky that's been floating around since release is suddenly uber OP?

Grab widow; 1 shot either of them with a headshot since they're slow and in the sky or get a soldier and mccree to do it

>>378748445
This has been a long time coming and i'm glad that blizzard finally realized that Roadhog had to lose his ability to 1shot people in order for reaper to become a truly viable answer to tank spam.

It's not a coincidence they just figured out a simple way to buff reaper against big targets but not against smaller nimbler targets.

This is a team game. Tanks and healers should be relying on their damage dealers to help them secure kills. Taking away hog's ability to 1shot means he can be buffed on any number of other fronts, namely buffed into being better at actually tanking, the thing that was ostensibly his job this whole time.

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anyone else get slightly uncomfortable entering these threads, with the possibility of console players actually trying to discuss competitive?

like we have no idea who plays the real game and who plays the mcdonalds toy version

>>378757561
Pretty sure they balance them separately

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>>378757297

This is my favorite game. I was masters last season too. You're a trash player reliant on a crutch.

>>378757561
I'm more concerned about people still playing competitive overwatch on the first day of june 2017 to be quite honest with you

Goddammit, I knew this would happen eventually with how butthurt Roadhog makes people. He was the only fun I had in the game any more, guess I go back to TF2 or something now.

>>378757550

I don't think she deserves nerfs either. Still think it'll happen eventually however.

>>378757553

Even if reaper is balls deep in a Tank's asshole he's only going to be healing 20~ damage a shot. That's really not much and won't save you from getting wrecked by all the super powerful mobile DPS in this game.

>>378757758
>I can only have fun with busted as fuck characters
Good riddance

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>>378757758
>has to change game because he can't one shot 80% of the characters anymore

>>378751763
>they completely negated the point of Roadhog

Why do people keep saying this? When did blizzard ever explicitly state that "the point of roadhog" was to oneshot all but ~4 characters?

Why can't the point of roadhog be the anti-tank tank, or the pick tank who actually relies on his teammates for followup because it's a fucking team game?

>Roadhog had a close to 50% winrate in every bracket
>Rarely ever got picked in competitive

This just goes to show that if the public cry about something enough they Blizz will bow to their will instead of looking at the evidence.

The majority of the playerbase is fucking trash.

>>378753143
>>No armour, easily punished and feeds enemy ults easily.
Fucking this. I play a lot of D.Va, and I always love having a roadhog on the enemy team because you can recharge mech almost instantly if you survive getting out of it.

>>378751614
McCree s shit at stopping Flankers. Flashbang is short range and buggy as fuck and we all know how monstrously broken Deflect is. McCree is shit at his intended role.

>>378753881
>ignore the fact he gains ult from his own damage too

Roadhog's ult is much lower impact than most others.

It's like Junkrat feeding the enemy healer's ults because he does a lot of damage without actually killing anyone.

>b-but I had gold damage! Not my fault we lost :^)

>>378757561
Anon that's the case in every single competitive game, except with low rankers talking like they're top100.

>>378758087
>McCree s shit at stopping Flankers
top fucking kek

>>378758038

Blizzard does not balance around the highest pro tournament meta. Winston has been a top pick for months but his bubble was buffed recently because the 99.9% of the playerbase who does not play fucking tournaments rarely used his ass.

Joe Blow Silver is more important than muh precious elitist GM players purely because silver, gold, and diamond players make up most of the people in the game.

>>378758345
So basically 99% of this board except extrapolate that to everything. Roadhog is overdue for a nerf.

>>378751763
>baww I can't one shot half the cast with my tank anymore
wew

>>378757709
>sub 4k
seems about right for people bitching about roadhog
lmao

>>378757709

>Low diamond
>Talks about how he was master once

I was masters every season but 2 because of college. I was arguably masters in season 1 as I ended on 70sr. I play Road a lot but for fun and usually in quick. I used McCree and Pharah to get to masters.


You're a trash player who can't position and cries.

>>378751709
I got sym's! Goes really well with her Oasis skin

>>378758394

He's right. Good Tracers and Genji know how to play around McCree well enough that it usually doesn't even matter.

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This Roadhog nerf is fine, he can hook people but now you actually need a team to kill the guy meaning flanking hog and hooking to win a 1v1 is finally dead, plus he did too much damage to tanks

>>378753735
I like the golden weapons for genji a lot but all the other ones look pretty dumb yeah

>>378758394
let me guess
>just throw the flashbang and shoot them in the head lol
yeah, you and every other brainless mccree player throws their flash at the most predictable time, then you roll when it wiffs
SAD!

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>>378759841
Winston can't get rekt by Hog anymore thank god. Reaper is a real threat to tanks now too! I am so happy. I hope the changes go through.

>>378752818
>>378752734
don't forget
>can heal nearly his entire massive health bar every 8 seconds

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>being terrible shots
>not just going for the shots after hooking
why even play then?

>>378752998
seriously, like 80% of the time I try to teleport it changes to the floor or ledge like 2 feet in front of me the second before I press the button

>>378751921

Agreed. They should nerf Widow and Hanzo too. And Tracer's ult. Nobody should be able to one shot in this game.

>>378753790

It almost looks like they also reverted the increased grouping of the pellets as well.

>>378759841
>roadhog barely ever picked at relevant rank
>can no longer do the one thing he did well
>is now just a walking ult dispenser
>"fine"

He needs a full rework, not a nerf.

>>378754208

Show me on the doll where the mean Roadhog touched you, Kaplan.

>>378759841

>can hook
>must rely on team to kill anything

Then what the fuck is the point of roadhog? To occasionally pull somebody out of place? Most useless hero in the game.

I've only recently picked this game up, but is it common for Overwatch to have the classic Blizzard balancing issues? Reading through these changes really makes it seem like it's a company wide thing and not just limited to one or two games

Soldier 76 has been my favorite since day one!

>>378759425
Angry bronzie lmao

>tfw want to play Overwatch but then remember Genji still exists

>tfw don't want to play Overwatch but then remember Genji still exist

>>378748445
>change roadhog to hitscan with dropoff at 24m
>holding right-click now charges a shot like Symmetra for 1 shot kill potential
There, fixed.

>>378760779
yes
same exact "force character/role in a direction WE want rather than where they should be because our personal idea of whats proper is superior to anyone elses" bullshit

>>378760510
>>378760731
Roadhog was intended to stay in the front lines and hook people over extending, not camping a hallway and winning every 1v1. Also calling him an ult dispenser is not fair since most Hogs hide or are behind 3 barriers. This nerf changes his formerly cancerous play style

>>378751709

>tfw I was going to get it to go with the reindeer christmas skin for the golden candy cane

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>F

>>378761232
Just take a step forward and than do the meatshot, every clip that has been posted has been a player shooting as soon as the hook ends

>>378761108
>this nerf changes his formerly cancerous playstyle

And replaces it with one less character in the OW roster

Great change m8, especially since he wasn't even an issue outside the trenchest trench

>>378752931
damn femreaper got cake

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>>378760185
none of those characters have 600 hp, tracer's ability is an ult, not an ability with a short CD, and the two snipers actually require aim. At least try to come up with a counter-argument that stands up to a slight breeze

>>378761232
>is actually balanced and can't win a 2v1 now
>people will complain about this

>>378752707

>doesn't offer a shield like every other tank
>his sustain is a 3 second self stun
>nerf his hook
>nerf his damage
>b-but he can shoot slightly faster now!
>a-and his head's hitbox isn't the size of a cow

"balanced"

>>378761232
where's your melee attack you FUCK

>>378761484
Aww you'll just have to get good for once. :'(

>>378761368

>Just take a step forward and than do the meatshot

In between the hook ending and you "taking a step forward" see; >>378751763

The people on here saying this is a good thing are either no talent gold scrubs or simply trolling. This completely removes the fucking character from the game. Nobody will pick him anymore because his damage is shit and his hook is largely useless unless the enemy is afk in the open.

>>378761368 >>378761435 >>378761513

>land M2, Hook, and M1, still unable to deal 200 damage


>balanced

>>378758431
>Blizzard does not balance around the highest pro tournament meta. Winston has been a top pick for months but his bubble was buffed recently because the 99.9% of the playerbase who does not play fucking tournaments rarely used his ass.
In fairness, the bubble was dogshit before the buff. It was really needed.

>>378761484
>>378761378

What's the point of arguing with them? Most of these people have no idea what they're talking about and will only point out the good of Road and pretend bad sides don't exist.

This is how it's always been on /v/ and honestly anywhere else.

>>378761378
There is literally a hero called Reaper that did Hog's play style but wasn't picked because Hog outclassed him in more than one way. This nerf might not help Reaper be meta but at least Hog doesn't cover such a large niche of taking others hero's roles

>>378761668
>backed up after landing a hook like a retard
>WOW ITS THE NERFS FAULT SHE DIDN'T DIE, FUCK BLIZZARD

can almost guarantee it would have been a kill if they didn't play like complete garbage and actually moved in closer

>>378762056

>if they moved in closer

See: >>378761657

>>378758394
McCree can manage to kill 1 flanker, but if there are more than 1 then he's just getting traded. And don't say McCree can just flick and headshot people, by that logic Hanzo and Widow are excellent at stopping flankers. McCree is the worst attack hero right now, I have no idea why they buffed his ult instead of fixing his flashbang to be more reliable.

In paladins, our knockoff roadhog never could 1 shot

and we were better for it

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>>378748445

>>378751763
t. Bronze shitter

>>378753143
t. Bronze shitter

>still playing OW
why? Each thread I've seen is endless bitching

>>378762353
Incredibly curious as I know little to nothing about paladins.

Does the not-roadhog share other similarities, same clip size, range, heal?


Design-wise Roadhog before the nerf had to OHKO because his sustained team fight capability is the worst in the game, is the not-hog designed to last better in fights?

>>378762353
Isnt he like the best character?, I swore I saw him as S tier in a tier list

>>378761378
t. Bronze shitter

>>378762835

he has a shield instead of a heal and a dash as well, everything else is pretty similar except his ulti which makes him an enraged melee for a short period

>>378762843

idk if he still is but he was on top not too long ago

So why is Hog not instagibbing after a hook seen as a bad thing and only shitters would want it? It should only affect shitters since at higher levels of play there should be a higher level of team work. Pulling people out of position is huge and there's a number of other people that simply needs to turn and shoot once or twice to kill the guy.

>>378748445
even better, Reaper has 20% lifesteal now. Roadhog can't do shit against him now

>>378762353
DotA's Pudge could never one shot either. His hook is only a death sentence due to the extreme importance of positioning in the game. Due to the high mobility of Overwatch, I'm not so sure that it's such a huge deal.

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>Hog is dead forever
>just played three games and came out like a Olympian in medals.
>realize its another /v/ reveals their actually shit at video games episode.

>>378760185

They should also buff Widow's HP to 600, give her a self heal and the ability to lock the opponents movement for one free shot.

>get a buff
>call it a nerf
lmaoing at all of your lives

>>378763390
They aren't exactly comparable.

Pudge has off-screen range, and inbuilt CC to follow up on the hook.

>>378763681
>effective DPS is down 15%
>buff

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>/v/ mad their overweight fat-fuck avatar of easy mode is getting nerfed

It's not even that big a deal you fucking crybabies

>>378763524

Once they remove her ability to shoot beyond 15m and her grapple.

>>378748445
>b-bwuu boo hog so OP :( :(
>they """""nerf"""""
>b-bwuu boo hog is kill, F :( :(
make up your mid you single individual fag known as forcham (hacker on steroids)

>>378763870

The only people who thought roadhog was overpowered were gold tier scrubs. It just so happens most people on here fit in that category.

>>378763929
t. Hog main

>>378763817

>Grapple now lets you hook other characters.
>You are brought towards the opponent instead of the other way around.

>>378756440
>I have to actually think about when to use my hook to finish a wounded target
>I might have to actually use teamplay to secure hook kills
>f-fuck roadhog is useless now!!!1
And here I thought blizzard was so fucking retarded, and they go and do something like this and totally redeem themselves.

>>378763460
>>Hog is dead forever
>>just played three games and came out like a Olympian in medals.
>>realize its another /v/ reveals their actually shit at video games episode.
you are truly retarded.
the changes haven't gone through yet. this is in PTR
go ahead, delete your post

>>378763739
In the time Roadhog could do one shot of 255 damage you can now do 2 shots of 150

>>378764493
so it takes longer to kill <250 hp heroes? (most of them)
got it

looks like the kids that can't into tactics won

>>378763390
Aside from "Oh God several enemy Heroes are now manually raping me at the location Roadhog pulled me to so I could't escape" yes.

>>378764619
>Shift+L1 to kill every 8 seconds
>calling anyone else bad at tactics because instead of 1 shotting people you might have to shoot an attempted runner

l m a o

Hog's hook combo still does 330 damage if you aim for the enemy's neck. Everyone up to Zarya/Orisa dies instantly from that. Much faster rate of fire and five ammo means his overall DPS is still roughtly the same.

>>378764947
>his overall DPS is still roughtly the same
Yes that is what the developers said

>>378764823
>go into close combat against the tank that has a fucking shotgun
>WHAH WHY CAN HE KILL ME?! i might be a super mobile hero and my abilities allow me to dodge his hook with no problems BUT THIS IS NOT BALANCED BECUZ I HAVE TO USE MY BRAIN WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>378752886
Zen is literally one of Roadhog's hardest counters. Hog has the most health so discord orb fucks him the hardest. Zen is always in the back lines so it's next to impossible to hook him unless the Zen is shit.

>>378765338
>close combat
do you know the range of his hook?
do you know the average distance between skirmishes on any map?
obviously not.
stop posting any time

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>nerf roadhog and make him useless as he was only good for his one-shot gimmick
>still have him as a tank despite not having a single actual tank property that would allow him to help his teammates

idiotic, I expected more from Jeff

Can't aim for shit. Im plat. Ez

>>378757786

As someone who enjoys playing her all I want is some form of ult rework, her Q is just a "Get me killed" button even with mercy's beam up your ass. Maybe I'm too stupid to use it and should just stick to flick shots, but it just feels like it entirely destroys the pace of what I'm doing

>>378766006
>do you know the range of his hook?
do you know what dodging is?
>do you know the average distance between skirmishes on any map?
do you know that you always can not run into the enemys like a retard or stand behind a fucking shield

obviously not
stop posting any time

>>378748445
thank god, was sick of "lol you got one shot easy now let me go back to shredding shields.

>>378766296
Her ult would be fine if you could simply cancel it early.

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>>378763681
>>378764493
>old hog does 900 damage over 4 seconds
>new hog does 750 damage over 3.85 seconds while also losing one shot potential
>hurr it's actually a buff I've pierced the veil

>Laughing Reaper and Mei.jpg

Over the year they have flip flopped how Hog gets countered by these two then released a change where Hog now counters them, thank fuck

>>378761232

>I need my team to 1shot someone :( bawwwwwwwww

This is like the mccree nerf, except roadhog as 600 HP and a self heal

>>378751763
>Hook
>one shot
>team mate shot too
>they died

Love how this mechanic can rely on the fact you just pulled an enemy way out of position infront of your team.

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>>378764421

>>378761435
>do absolutely nothing but feed 60% ult charge for 8 seconds when hook is down
honestly coming back to /v/ i thought more of you would not be plats

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>>378753402

>instead of getting gud just cry for nerfs
>they actually nerf him
BRAVO BLIZZARD

>>378766537
When did Hog ever counter Mei?

>>378766748
>Lucio


I try not to be sad, but I am still sad

>No one is talking about the massive reaper buffs.
Christ v I thought you had class

>>378758032

Because that was Roadhog's character: he's the nastiest person on the roster, so it makes sense his gameplay was being the only tank that was an active aggressor and not based around helping his team or relying on them.

If they're rolling back on that, you may as well go play one of the tanks who already help their team and get helped by them, you'd probably do better.

>>378766748
how is winston so high up? i thought he was mediocre

>>378767001
dove comps are in

>>378767001
He's the best tank for dive comps.

>""""""""tank"""""""""
>zero abilities to mitigate damage for your team

rmyt

>>378766835
Right around the time they changed his hook aim mechanics to be more forgiving, the survival rate of getting hooked and killed as a 250hp hero dropped significantly then

>>378766821
>tells people to git gud
>complains now that hogs have to git gud
Bravo reddit

>>378766748
>blizzard """"""""""""""""""""""""""""'balance""""""""""""""""""""""""""""'

WoWfags took it in the ass for years, how long will OW fans take it for?

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>>378766930
>ctrl+f reaper
>17 posts about Reaper.
come on son. Reaper is a LEGIT Roadhog murderer now instead of "getting lucky". He kills tanks even better now, but he will still have to go toe to toe with other dps for a kill. It evens out. I don't know what Roadhog's role is now. Reel people in to be killed? Use his hook to stun shit? He is still pretty strong, but his hook combo is no linger a death sentence.

>>378767198
>let enemies shoot you for ult charge absolutely helpless instead of letting them shoot your team
>not mitigating damage

>>378767198
Technically he does draw more fire, he's easy to hit and crit, it's risky to keep him alive and he gives people easy ults

Roadhog was never a "tank." He's always been a squishy DPS. He makes up for his lack of mobility with a larger health pool. So, of course, the way to balance him is to nerf his DPS while not buffing anything else.

>b-but he can heal

It's a self stun that lasts 3 seconds and can't be cancelled.

>suddenly /v/ likes overwatch

>>378767198
he draws the enemy's fire i dunno how that's not mitigatoni or whatta heck you said

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>>378751763
>Mfw reading this butthurt
This is something I've dreamed of since beta.

>>378753752
Mobas are actually the best mp genre right now.

The only reason they're garbage is the controls. Which Overwatch fixes.

>>378767349
>>378767445

>if people shoot you, you're mitigating damage

Then apparently every class in the game is a tank.

>>378754448
t. racer

>>378748445
Can someone post patch notes?

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>>378748445
F

>>378757863
20 damage a shot? on the ptr against tanks I was easily getting 40+.

>>378767613
it's 20 % of the damage you do i think

>>378767574
McCree

Deadeye
Targets now begin locking on after 0.2 seconds, instead of 0.8 seconds
Damage accumulated over the first 1.0 seconds increased from 20 to 80 (damage per second after the first 1.0 seconds is unchanged)

Developer Comment: McCree’s ultimate can deal a lot of damage if it has a lot of time to build up, but it was often too difficult to get even a small amount of damage out before being stopped or killed. These changes make it more flexible and powerful.

Reaper

The Reaping (Passive)
Removed health orbs
Now regains 20% of all damage done to heroes as health

Developer Comment: Reaper’s old healing passive was useful if you could kill a bunch of enemies in a row. But since enemies needed to be dead for it to work, it wasn’t very helpful unless the situation was already in your favor. His new passive lets him get immediate benefit from it, especially when fighting Tank heroes, which tend to be larger targets that deal lower damage.

Roadhog

Head hitbox size reduced by 20%

Scrap Gun
Bullet damage decreased by 33%
Fire rate increased by 30%
Clip size increased from 4 to 5

Developer Comment: Roadhog’s head was abnormally large compared to similarly-sized characters, so we’re reducing its size to increase his survivability. The Scrap Gun changes reduce the power of his hook combo and alternate fire burst damage potential while still keeping his DPS roughly the same.

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>>378767540
I laughed more then I should have

>>378757863
>>378767613
>>378767658
yeah it depends on how much damage YOU put out. it's easier to hit every pellet onto a tank so you gain more from hitting them.

>first person """shooter""" game
>1-shot people with a hook that's basically auto-aim

About time they nerfed that shit, Maybe overwatch is actually going in the right direction.

>>378767814
>walk linearly
>waah he hooked me

All these hog mains crying. Don't even pity them lads, make hog the new throw pick, these faggots belong in the dumpster.

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>>378767452
fucking same senpai, I have always hated roadhog hook and dreaded a lot of metas with him in the front of it.

when does the update drop?

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>>378767330
He'll be forced to do what he was designed to do. Be a front line utility that pulls over-extending enemies into friendly line of fire.

Right now he's just an assassin. Probably one of the more effective ones too since he can 1v1 any hero in the game below 400 health

>>378751763
probably the most totally wrong post ever put on v. this is how dumb roadhogg players are, they've been tricked into thinking it's their skill that one shots everything and not a broken fucking character. I think "one-trick pony" was my favorite line. hook instant kill, alt fire instant kill, can heal through major fucking damage. can take major fucking damage already. what a fucking retard.

>>378751987
Dude, Orisa is pretty fuckin good

>>378767876
>linearly
>size of hook is basically a S76
eat shit hog main that comes at you mach 5

This might sound dumb and I'm not trolling but what is the Dive Comp? I know the old meta but what is this new one?

I don't play a whole lot so I don't usually follow everything.

>>378768212
Orisa is absolutely fucking useless and they decided to nerf her.

So what the fuck is the point of hook now? You already had a crapshoot at oneshotting certain squishies with the fact that it brings them 10 miles away from you now; do they want us to just pretend we're S76 and shoot pretty big red rectangles all day?

>>378751763
>Roadhog will just shoot, hook shoot
And you cant do this because?

>>378768318
>Orisa Nerf

It still hurts, I dont want more fucking barriers, the CD was low enough, but you also had to take my damage away too.

>>378768318
>doesn't say why
she is one of the best defenders if not the best solo defender there is. She's shit on payload maps I'll agree, but everything else stationary, she has that on lock.

>>378768482
Pulling people into your team and away from theirs, and then removing a large portion of their health.

>>378768482

It's a team game, anon.

>Hook someone
>Team kills them

it's that simple, just always have a teammate nearby so you can get a guaranteed kill on a hook.

>>378768564
>pull in tracer
>she survives your m1 and murders your healer, then ults

>pull in genji
>survives, then lshifts your healer

>pull in reaper
>etc

Not even sure if that's worth using anymore

>>378768212
she crumbles way to easily to dive
she need more health and a fortify buff then she'll be golden

>>378768734

So you agree with me that Widow and Hanzo need nerfed? And Tracer's ult? Nobody should be able to kill somebody else by themselves. After all, it's a team game.

>all these salty road mains

Here's a tip for you:

If you want to still one shot people, hook the people who have already been in firefights and are running for health

The Genji who has lost 1 health and is spamming I NEED HEALING and requires his own personal Ana and Mercy welded to him at all times is the best target for your hook, aim at him.

>>378768805
Why is your healer at like 5 health?

>>378768734
This makes zero sense when their are other characters who solely exist to get OHKO without their team.

>>378768991
>can't comprehend the problem of being a TANK and a ASSASSIN
roadhog was both, pick one retard.

>>378767001
Gorilla dick is amazing if you can juggle people effectively cause you can bully a lot of people without significant punishment

>>378768561
Shield is not only low health which means it can't take sustained fire even with the lower cooldown, but it's also stupidly small and stationary which means you can easily just go around or above it.

Fortify is fucking useless thanks to her large hitboxes and critboxes.

Gun's high rate of fire means it has a low per-bullet damage which makes it shitty against anything with armor, but the bullets being projectiles and not hitscan means it's harder to hit squishies, so she's basically terrible against everyone damage-wise.

Pull is a mild annoyance unless you can catch someone for an enviro kill, and you're not doing that outside of bronze because of how slow the stupid thing is.

Ult being destructible makes it useless because you have to either park it around a corner which limits where your team can go, or park it behind your shield which limits where your shield can go.

There are zero situations where she's a more useful pick than any other tank.

>playing underpowered characters
Only people who don't know how to play Overnerf do this
>use muh skill
Literally retarded. Picking a shit character = pressing the lose game button

>>378768561
-low health for a tank
-absolutely no mobility
-speed lowers when attacking
-soap bubble barrier that's amller than Rein's and her headbox can be hit from above the barrier while she's behind it and you're in front of it
-Fortify is only useful as a panic button against Charges, Blizzards, and Gravitons
-Halt! is situational and not very reliable
-hitbox the size of the payload and headbox as big as D. Va's positioned where it can be hit from all angles

Unless the entire team is built around her Orisa is near useless.

>>378769221
He's a terrible tank though. Now they've basically removed his ability to kill so he's total dog shit at both.

>>378769221

>tank

Oh, right, I forgot about all of those shields Roadhog offers. Oh, wait...

He's not a tank. He's always been a DPS who made up for his lack of mobility (he doesn't have a grapple, he doesn't have recall, he can't climb walls, he can't teleport, etc.) with a higher health pool.

>>378769346
This.
Roadhog wasn't ever really a tank, he was just a low mobility ganker with selfheal. Now he has zero mitigation outside of the occasional (and usually accidental) body-block, and to compensate for that, a ... weaker gun?

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>>378748445
not likes this...