THIS IS THE WORST SOULS GAME

heh, I get it
because it's the best

Nah

Dark Souls 3 for me. Can't believe people still think that Miyazaki made that game

>>378744129
BB:TOHE > DAS3:TFFE > DAS:PTDE > DAS2:SOTFS > DES

This is a fact, nothing anyone say or does can change this.

>>378744391
Switch 1 and 3 and you're good

>>378744129
>t. bootyblasted xbox fag

DeS > BB > DaS3 > DaS2SOTFS > DaS1 > DaS2

The platforming is atrocious, that section of stonefang tunnels is more luck based than than skill.

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>>378744129
how can demons souls be the worst when it's exclusive to a sony console? Seriously, OP give a non emotional response to this

>>378744129
It has the best level design of the whole series.
I started with DaS but DeS blew it out of the water.

>>378744129
Yes I know it's true but the fucking memelords on /v/ won't stop jerking off to it.

>>378744391
This is the first time that i see someone who got it all right, great taste

>>378744727
>BUT STRINGS OF HALLWAYS AND CHOKEPOINTS LEADING TO NEW SKYBOXES IS SO MUCH MORE IMMERSIVE AND ARTSY

>>378744672
>Implying PS3 had games

what a terrible opinion

>>378744129
Naaaah, on contrary this is the ONLY Souls game.

>>378744129
Dark Souls 2 exists, Op.

>>378744827
This guy also gets it

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I love the archdemons in Demon's Souls, they aren't especially difficult but this was before the 'LE PREPARE TO DIE XD' meme. Getting revenge on the flying mantas after being continually fucked by them the entire level was an amazing feeling. They brought back the Stormruler in Dark Souls 3 but it wasn't even close.

If you don't like Demon's Souls you have bad taste, plain and simple, there's no argument to be had here.

This and the first dark souls I think are the only games you need to play in the series.

>>378745403
You forgot Bloodborne

>>378744129
Nah DS2 easily beats it for the worst spot.

>>378744129
But it's arguably the best between it and das1
Das2 is the worst by a long shot

I actually have the game and haven't finished it, I also don't feel the need to. Demons souls and the first half of dark souls are the best moments for the series for me. The series is so fatigued it needs another couple of years of sleep.

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>>378744129
hey look another thread
yes, ANOTHER
about people endlessly ranking souls games
man I just cant get enough of Muh opinion > Your shit opinion
so refreshing

>>378745675
was in reply to this
>>378745430

>>378744129
Nah, that's be DaSII, DeS is second best.

I only just recently played and beat DeS. It honestly doesn't have as many highs as DaS, but it really doesn't sink NEARLY as low as DaS1/2 does.

I can't even think of a reason you'd find it the worst in the series, seeing as DaS2/3 exist. Tell us what you think is so bad about it? We've all been bitching about the hot garbage in DaS 1/2/3 for ages now. What does it do worse than those?

After extensive research the university of Yale developed the ultimate classification for all the souls games in existence. Here are the results:

DaS:PTDE >= BB >= DeS > DaS3AllDLCS > DaS2SOTFS

You're welcome.

>>378745969
I don't know, stonefang tunnels is a pretty low, low.

>>378746282
Somehow lower than Lost Izalith? I mean come on now; SFT is boring, but hardly a shit show.

What was so hard that you had to rage quit anon?

HEY

so what is wrong with Dark Souls III?
i heard poise was changed and the game is linear. but surely those can not be the only reasons?

looking from outside it looks like the perfect souls game

>>378744129
I agree OP. It Souls game I played the least and it's mechanics are jank compare to the successors. It's a good game, but I never feel the need to replay this game compare to BB and DaS.

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>>378744129

>scraping spear
>acid surge
>infused weapons
>you can play as a boss
>you can delevel your character
>amazing designs

im not gonna say its the best, but its a hard pick

>>378746467
No rage quitting, just fighting those tanky bugs for 10minutes while they use their one single attack over and over, gets boring extremely quickly.
The first part of SFT is great, but once you reach the bugs and tunnels it becomes extremely tedious.

Also Valley of Defilement is pretty badly designed area, specially if you compare it to Blighttown. Even Farron Keep is way more interesting to explore.
The only memorable thing about that place was dropping the MLGS from those slugs.

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>>378746872
>played Temple Knight
>use the starter Halberd for 80% of the game
>bugs died in a few pokes and I never had any problem with them
Lucky me

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The Valley of Defilement and boss battle are my favourites in the series.

After scrambling and scraping through it all and hearing about Astraea, then the fucking plague babies then
>enter area
>This is our home.
>We have done no harm to you.

>You will not turn back, will you?
>I shall let no harm come to dearest Astraea.

>You…
>You killed him, didn't you?
>Very Well, I can no longer resist you.
>Do as you like. Take your precious Demon soul.


I enjoy hard boss fights but the way this rounded off a difficult level with an easy but heartbreaking "boss" was really satisfying (and upsetting, I'm a monster ;_; )

>>378746872
>fighting those tanky bugs for 10minutes
It's not like you have multiple different types of weapons at your disposal and enemies have specific weaknesses right? There's only one weapon in Demon's Souls.

>>378747851
Welcome to Bloodborne babies, who think the entire game is focused around one weapon you "main"

I think Demons Souls is my favorite. The levels all being available pretty much from the get go combined with the tendency system gave it the best replay value compared to the other games. Weapon upgrade lines had a little more going for them back then (extra effects like health/mp regen were pretty sweet). Physical damage types actually matter. All in all it was a lot of fun finding all the different ways to be OP.

Every game after that shat on my favorite mechanics just a little bit more in favor of PVP balance and challenge, and that just isn't as fun for me.

>>378747981
>the entire game is focused around one weapon you "main"
This is entirely false though, in Bloodborne enemies have even greater differences in defenses than DeS.
Watchdog of the Old Lords has 9939 fire defense and 110 thrust defense. You literally can't harm it with certain weapons.

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Dark Souls = Bloodborne > Demon's Souls > Dark Souls 3 > Shadow Tower > King's Field > Dark Souls 2

>>378748168
>he thinks there's only one KF and ST

>>378748125
No they don't.

You have like the electric enemy resistant to the electricity and the Fire enemy resistant to the fire.

Demon's souls has exactly the same.

>>378748317
Try to hit the slime scholars in the Lecture Building with a blunt weapon and then with a thrust weapon and say it again.

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>>378748229
I don't but I treated them as a series in my lineup to keep things simple.

I even played the King's Field Remake + Editor Sword of Moonlight and most of the fanmade campaigns.

Good stuff.

>>378747851
It's not like carry weight made it extremely inadvisable to carry extra equipment with you unless you want to be forced to destroy some of your equipment.
You're a retard.

>>378744129
It was the first so most flaws are excusable, however the flaw of having your world tendency shift towards the average of the server whenever you went back to the nexus is inexcusable because it easily prevents you from acquiring a lot of things if you aren't aware of it and take precautions against it.

Character tendency was fine.

>>378748368
Try hitting the bugbears in 2-2 with a slashing,thrust or fire weapon and say the same.

>>378748421
Unless your build includes Bramd + a greatshield i don't see what's stopping you from carrying a spear and a mace as side weapons.

>>378748503
So basically it's like Bloodborne.

>>378744391
The only right answer.

>>378748602
You mean Bloodborne is like Demon's souls.

>>378746872
You're supposed to run around the bugs

>>378748421
>Implying

Armor hurt your carry weight more than weapons you dunce.

Learn to play Demon's soul

>>378748549
Doesn't matter what you're carrying if you have to pick up really heavy new equipment.
And in Stonefang tunnels there is at least extremely heavy equipment, I think somewhere around where you meet patches. I don't remember what they were but I remember everytime I got to them I couldn't pick all of it up.

>>378748747
Have you played the game? Do you not remember the tiny tunnels where you fight them. No way around them unless you glitch through, which does sometimes happen.

>>378748368
Yeah but most weapons in bloodborne try to incorporate at least one thrusting attack to make things like this work.

>>378744129
All of them suck.
except for bloodborne

>>378748794
You fight like two bugbears in the tunnels and they have alternative ways around.

Git gud.

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>>378748168
>Shadow Tower and King's Field behind Souls

Dark Souls>Dark Souls 3>Demons Souls>Bloodborne>Dark Souls 2

>>378744948
Nigga if you're a weeb Sony consoles are great

>>378748889
They're still shitty enemies that are boring to fight. I don't know how gittin gud will fix that but okay.

>>378748747
But it's not like there's any new extremely heavy armor or weapons to ever pick up, right you dumb fuck?

Kind excited. My ps3 is arriving today with DeS. I have played all the other souls games and would rate them something like this
DS PTD Ed>BB>DS3>DS2 Softs

>>378748448
The game was true art.

It wasn't about acquiring everything like some kind of hoarding rodent

It was a lot of modern ideas poured into a failed project the studio didn't give a fuck up about that wound up having the biggest observable impact on mainstream video game culture of the 2010s.

Calling Demon's the worst Souls game is like calling Halo: CE the worst Halo.

>>378748937
>first person gameplay

>>378749095
Yes and? Both games have much better atmosphere than any Souls game.

>>378749020
>Heavy items to pick up in 2-2
>Great Axe
>Hands of God

The fact that Equip and Carry load increases by Endurance in DeS and you get the herculean ring straight away sounds like you're a fucking bitchboy.

Also, the bugbears are easy as fuck to kill, offer good souls and are interesting, not every enemy needs to be "2spoopy roarbeast"

I played in release order (starting in 2010) and wanted to play des again before ds3 came out.

I realized des had quite a few issues. The worst offenders being the limited combat mechanics, strict weapon upgrade paths, and some bad bosses (2-3, 5-1, 5-3, dragons). Running out of inventory space was frustrating. PvP only had a few viable builds or else you'd get insta killed. Also grinding for pure bladestone

There are a lot of pros though. The atmosphere and music was the best in the series. Tower of latria was a fantastic zone. Difficulty was just right for when it's your first entry in the series, but way too easy after playing the newer games

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>>378744129

>>378749172
Explain how endlessly repeating 4x4 wall texture blocks assembled in a maze constitutes atmosphere, let alone atmosphere superior to one of the greatest art design efforts in the medium (BB)

>>378746872
Valley of Defilement is one of the best areas in any game ever made.

It's a war of attrition and will test your mental fortitude. It's also got probably the most feely boss fight in the entire Souls series except for Bloodborne.

>>378749354
Yeah, it's fair to say BB has the best atmosphere. But I genuinely think demon's is the second best. It's something to do with the audio, the weird shimmery effect things have, the lack of music in a lot of places, the fact that it's got the worst graphics in the series makes it kind of mysterious looking I guess? There's just something about it.

It is if you are so retarded you can't contextualise games and value them for their worth at the time of release

Des is the best Soulsborne bar BB

>>378749238
>music was best in the series

what

it's literally synth chorus vocals and stock orchestra samples

Bloodborne's soundtrack contained movements mirroring character lore and lyrics about the events taking place.

>>378749238
Sorry dude, Demon's had the worst music in the series. Just look at the Adjudicator theme... Garbage.

>>378747526
VoD is the best area in the series imo. It's both a literal and a figurative descent into despair, getting worse and worse the deeper you go, and when you finally reach the bottom, the horrible "demon" you've been hunting turns out to be an innocent woman who's done nothing but try to help the miserable people there who begs you to leave in peace. It makes you suffer through some of the worst environments imaginable with the promise that your objective is right and necessary, then breaks you once you see Garl and Astraea's plight. It's genius.

>>378749517
I never played bb. Don't have a ps4

>>378749235
It's definitely the greataxe that I always try to pick up and end up dropping it.

>walk back, forward, poke
>walk back, forward, poke
>walk back, forward, poke
>run away
Truly one of the most interesting enemies ever created. And I'm not even oversimplifying the fight for effect.

>>378748967
This is about correct

>>378744129
Demon's Souls > Bloodborne > Dark Souls > Dark Souls 2 > Dark Souls 3

it's not hard, anon.

>>378744129
It's true, but it's still a good game
None of the souls games are bad yes,
even DS2 is good

>>378749494
Playing De when it first came out is currently the greatest and most memorable game experience I've ever had, primarily because I didn't know a thing about it, refuse to look up guides, and played it alongside some friends who emulated the same mentality.

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>its another souls war thread

Yawn

>>378744129
If you like Souls games (this includes bb) because of their marriage of a unique world, atmosphere, world/level design and combat I don't see how you could think DeS is the worst, the best of these games are more than the sum of their parts so just because another may have incrementally improved in a few mechanical areas does not trump the cohesive whole of the core games in the franchise that put forth a clear vision, these namely being DeS, DaS and Bloodborne, its no wonder the best games in the series were free to do their own thing and were not tied down to being direct sequels pushed out to cash in on name recognition, here's hoping the direct sequel trend seen in DaS2/3 ends.

>>378749643
>Greataxe I always try to pick up and end up dropping

How? Level your endurance or learn inventory management.

And you just described literally every single souls enemy ever, congratulations.

>>378749626
just listen to the soundtrack on spotify or youtube. They improved it with the DLC - all the best tracks are there.

>>378744391
swap BB with DaS2 vanilla and you got yourself a solid list

>>378749764
at this point we're all just agreeing about how good De and BB are.

>>378749354
dunno mate both feel more claustrophobic and mystical than any Souls.

>>378749806
Wear somewhat heavy armor, like the fluted set, and a heavy shield, which is what I did the first couple of times I played through, and you can easily reach that item burden limit.
Also, inventory management in that game requires respawning all the enemies, I want to do as much exploring as I can before I'm forced to make them respawn.

>And you just described literally every single souls enemy ever, congratulations.
Literally not, not even in DeS does that work for every enemy. But it literally works exactly as I described against the bugbears.

>>378749854
DS2 is actual trash. No direction, idiotic design, boring encounters for 80% of the game.

The game was the most shameless cash grab of the series, with DS3 and DS1 on a totally separate plain of commercial-slanting existence

>>378750124
>I mismanaged my inventory
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

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>>378744129
OP being a cocksucker with a terrible opinion as usual.

>>378750213
I'm just saying most of the time, when you're exploring a new area, it's inadvisable to carry extra equipment, just in case you have to pick up some heavy new armor set or weapon/shield.
But fine, keep acting like a retard.

>>378744391
>>378744129
>>378744836
Same Fag

>>378750334
>I pick up every Longsword that drops
>It's inadvisable to manage your inventory

I bet you ran around with like 99 crescent moon grass

>>378750460
Because there weren't any heavy armor sets to pick up in that game right?
I see you decided to continue acting like a retard, good job.

>>378750584
You have literally no excuse to have inventory problems in DeS.

The levels are not long enough for the issue to arise unless you don't deposit your shit every time you return to the nexus.

You can literally run 2-1 and 2-2 together and I doubt you'd ever have inventory problems unless you're purposely carrying like two sets of plate armor.

>>378750334
Did you get the ring of Herculean strength? You'd have to be an actual retard to go over your limit with that thing.

>>378750719
Depends on your equipment. And 2-1 and 2-2 aren't the only levels that exist.
The first time you're going through any area you don't know what to expect or what you'll find. So it is never advisable to carry extra equipment that you might not need.

>>378750757
Of course I did, and it's still a possibility.

>>378750947
2-1 an 2-2 are the levels with all the heavy equipment.

You have two weapon slots, fill them.

It's not a possibility, you're just fucking bad at the game. Did you whine about the inventory in Diablo 2?

>>378750843
This is pretty accurate.

>>378750843
Yeah honestly pretty accurate

>>378751087
>2-1 an 2-2 are the levels with all the heavy equipment.
What?

>you're just fucking bad at the game
And you're a 1337 h4rdc0re g4m3r right?

>>378751191
Unless you're running 1-3 to get shit like the Zweihander, 2-1 and 2-2 have the biggest inventory requirements.

>Get a ring that gives 50% increased Carry weight
>Endurance, the most important stat ever, gives carry weight.

>Still get over the carry weight

>>378750947
You can easily carry one or two armor sets and multiple shields and weapons and still have enough carry weight to pick up everything you find unless you try and do an entire archstone without going back to the nexus like a goon. What did you do, run around with 4 sets of soldiers armor, 6 bastard swords and a pocket full of hardstone?

>>378751393
Considering the heaviest fucking weapon is only 20 units. It sounds like he never deposited anything and he's whining.

>>378749494
>worst graphics in the series
It looks way better than Dark Souls II and III thanks to lighting and detail.

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>There are people in this thread actually defending carry weight

I....what? Demons souls is a great game, but, what?

>>378749593
It's the worst in terms of sound quality but for me the second best in terms of composition.

>>378751329
Not him, but I will be honest, in StoneFang tunnel, you could quickly become over encumbered from all the hardstones and sharpstones.

>>378751943
Nobody is defending it, people are saying that it's not a crippling mechanic and can be easily managed, not that it's good.