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VOICE CHAT ON NINTENDO SWITCH

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jesus christ
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>>378734810
Well, I have Switch with 7 games and even I'm embarrassed for them. Really fucking stupid.
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So using this weird hub thing will be required and we won't be able to just plug headphones directly in the switch? Seems pretty retarded. Do you have more details?
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Hah
I don't need a headset but if I did this would be pretty damn awkward.
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>third party Hori product

LOL FUCKING NINTENDO RIGHT
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I'm a Switch owner and I can't defend this either.
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>>378735073
>>third party Hori product
This, but of course this will be ignored so nintendoomed etc
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>>378734810
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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http://www.4gamer.net/games/999/G999902/20170531151/

look at how short those cables are. you're probably gonna need a cord-extenstion ON TOP of all that bullshit.

what the fuck
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>>378734810
To preface, I own a Switch and I enjoy it. What is the reasoning behind this? To protect younger children from abuse/language?
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jiminy christ
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Voice chat is cancer, please kill yourselves immediately.
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>>378735203
>>378735073
Just because Mario distracted you from the sounds of your single mom getting gangbanged doesn't mean Nintendo loves you, you know
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My fucking sides are in the Mushroom Kingdom.

This is what reggie meant by not using those bulky headsets?
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>>378735279
You would only need an extension if you want your phone to be far away from the console. The headset wire just needs to be long enough to reach from the console to your seat.
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>>378735279
I mean, that's a really really dumb thing to have to exist, sure.

But the design is cute.
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>>378735514
>what's wrong with you?
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Is there anyone that can read moon runes that can shed some light on this thing? This isn't actually fucking required for voice chat, right? It's just some third party fuckery, right?
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>>378735489
That seems oddly personal and specific, anon
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You need a goddamn degree in engineering to set that shit up
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>>378735073
>>378735203
But it doesn't matter who made it. The fact that it needs to exist is the issue.

The Switch won't be handling the mic chat, your phone will. But your phone doesn't have the sounds of the game itself. So the reason this fucking contraption exists is to feed the mic signal on your headset to your phone so you can talk, and mix the audio of the group chat on your phone and the game audio from the Switch into one signal so you hear both through the headphones.

In short, Nintendo can't into voice chat.
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>>378735279
>Cable length: Headset approx. 1.2 m
>About 0.5 m remote control
Seems like that image is misleading although approximately 19 inches is kinda short.
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>>378734810
Seems nice you can just plug in any pair of headphones with a 3.5mm jack (unless I'm wrong) but thats way more convoluted than it needs to be.
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>>378734810
What the fuck.
Seriously, what the fuck.
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>>378735663
>third party
Yes
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>>378735681
>wanting voicechat

Either underage or a pedo

You shouldnt play Nintendo games online anyway, they are designed for couch co-op WITH YOUR FRIENDS
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>>378735279
Are you fucking kidding me?
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>>378735681
>The fact that it needs to exist
It doesn't though. It's fully usable even without it.
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>>378735828
That's the whole set.
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Only trolls will be using it.
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>>378735816
Splatoon is literally online
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>>378735816
You're the only one bringing up whether or not someone wants it. The only thing my post points out is that the game has it, and it is implemented stupidly.
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>>378734810
>Sony and Microsoft have had voice chat down for 2 generations
>Nintendo brings this ass backwards rube goldberg horseshit in
Is it REALLY that out of line for them to just make a dedicated console specific headset like the others?
instead we get HD RUMBLE
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>>378735816
There's nothing wrong with voicechat unless if it's not toggleable and forced in pubs. What if your friend is online, dip?

I don't understand the "voicechat is bad" meme. It allows you to relay information to your teammates FAR quicker than any other method.
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>>378735279
>the cable length
>the carnival typeface
>the unsymmetrical placement of everything on the arrow
>the arrow
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>set up Discord with friends
>have normal voice chat without retarded bullshit

wow that sure was hard huh?
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>>378736023
>Arrow
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>Have a USB type-C port on your console
>Use an analog adapter to allow use of headsets
what the fuck is wrong with Nintendo?
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>>378736042
you have to pay 2 play online. it should be built into the console
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>Nintendo honest to god expects to force you to pay for online while having the most godawful system for voice chat
I don't care if the Switch is good enough to cure cancer, Nintendo deserves to go bankrupt
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does anyone have any proof that a phone is actually 100% required for voice chat on the switch? the fucking thing has a i/o audio jack, why would a phone be required for voice?
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>>378736114
Can't use the usb-c port while docked or charging.
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>>378736042
>Having to use discord for voice chat in an online console game in 2017
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FYI it's a third party accessory that just combines voice chat from the app and game audio from the Switch into one audio feed for your headphones.

It's not a necessity for voice chat, and y'all are being reactionary as always because you don't bother to think about it for three seconds
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>>378735279
I wonder if this thing works with other things.
Like. If I was to plug this into my PC and my TV. And plug my headphones into it.
Would I be able to hear both my PC and my TV?

Does it simply combine two line inputs and combine them into one?
You'd be surprised how rare that technology is. You're pretty much forced to buy a bloated ass audio interface to do it.
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>>378736042
The issue is getting both of the audio sources. Either you are the dick who uses his speakers with a mic on for everyone to hear your shit, you have put a single earbud in, and then headphones over it (my go to for monster hunter currently), or you need some sort of mixer like this.


All of this is completely fucking solved by having a chat app on your console. Something the neanderthals at Sony and Microsoft figured out 3 generations ago. Nintendo are fucking retards.
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>>378735663
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>>378735353
This and only this.
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>>378736174
There's no proof. The general speculation is that doing things this way takes a load off the Switch so it can save battery or processing power.
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>>378735353
It's some stupid third party piece of hardware that's unrelated to Nintendo. /v/ just needs some entertainment or a scandal to dull the pain of their existence at least for a little while.
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>>378736209
You have to use a fucking smartphone to chat online
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>>378734810
If this setup is required for voice chat, they should have at least included a mixer like that arrow/squid thing with the Switch.
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>>378735852
It's the only way to get a regular-ass headset mic working the same way it works on every other system.
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>>378736401
Take away the peripheral and you still have the problem of having to use your fucking phone for voice chat
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>The Vita does parties and voice chat out of the box
>The fucking PSP had VOIP in several online games with a simple headset
Holy shit, why are people defending Nintendo in this instance?
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looks dumb, I'm glad I don't care about voice chat, so it's not my problem
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>>378735852
fully usable aka fully retarded? sure.

what part about people do not have 3 hands doesn't make sense to you

two hands to play the game, and where the fuck is the phone?

This is literally the most convoluted retarded thing ever.
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>>378734810
think of the children
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>>378736209
Yeah, it's a third party accessory that you need to buy to have the disjointed app-based voice chat come into your ears from the same source as the game audio, something expected of every voice chat function ever created. Without it you need to either have your voice chat phone on speaker picking up your TV noise while you play or put headphones on for either the game or the voice chat and be unable to properly hear the other. It's a third party accessory you need to buy to make this feature perform on par with something that's been done on every other platform for over a decade without issue, on top of the online play fee.
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>>378734810
>>378735279
Nintendo messed up when they decided the only way to chat was through your phone. The switch console has Bluetooth. Why can't they be sensible?
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there has to be a reason for this, i mean i hope its something cool.
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>>378736742
Because GOTTA PROTECT DA CHILDRENZ
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everyone is ignoring the question so I'll ask again:

forget this fucking retarded peripheral for a second, is it 100% confirmed that a phone is the only way to get voice chat on the switch?
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>>378736485
You mean we have to use a device made for easy communication to be able to easily communicate with other people?

What a fucking shame
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>>378736530
>>378736642
The Switch has a microphone you dunces. You don't even need a phone. Let alone this peripheral.
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>>378736864
yes, through some kind of app that hasn't been released
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>>378736919
The Switch actually does not have a microphone.
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>>378736864
It's 100% confirmed that the phone is not needed.
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>>378736864
No, Nintendo hasn't said it is the only way. However, they also haven't said there are other ways.
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>>378736798
its literally because they dont want kids using voice chat
even though this wont stop most kids from using it anyways
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>>378736864
>is it 100% confirmed that a phone is the only way to get voice chat on the switch
Yes
https://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2017/01/15/nintendo-really-is-using-a-phone-app-for-the-switchs-voice-chat/#2767329178e0
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>>378736919
You're thinking of the WiiU. Which also had a camera. Kind sucks that the WiiU failed.
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If the phone is required for voice chat, why is the red plug labeled "voice" plugged into the switch console?
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>>378737331
>ignoring the icon of a smartphone literally millimeters above it

Seriously, what is wrong with Nintendo fans over the age of 13?
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>>378734810
Voice chat is with friends only anyway. Might as well just start a Skype or Discord call instead of putting up with that bullshit
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>>378737331
This confuses me now.
In this pic >>378735279 you can even see a phone symbol on the black plug, so why the hell is voice on the other side?
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>>378737502
The design of this thing is kind of strange. Maybe its trying to say that voice comes in from the jack the arrow is pointing at, rather than it comes in following the arrow.
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>>378737502
I'll take >>378737470 back, that diagram is all over the place.
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>mfw I think it's pretty neat and would probably use it for my PS4 because I much prefer discord over Sony's built in garbage.
I mean. Clean game audio, and clean discord audio is pretty neat.
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>>378737647
I think they tried to color code it but then realized black text on black box can't be read. That or they put volume controls on the sides there allowing for individual control of game and voice volume.
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>>378737908
at that point just use discord/skype from the phone without having to plug in with the console aswell.
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>>378738874
But how would you hear game audio cues?
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>>378740450
You could still use a mixer like >>378735279
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>>378740582
You should really follow the reply chain friend.
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>people in this thread are actually defending this
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>mic goes to switch
>other cable goes to phone
I don't understand. Why would you need this if your switch has mic input
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>>378740954
>switch has mic input
WRONG
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>>378740954
>Thinking Nintendo would include a mic even though all handhelds since the DS had it
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>>378735279
Upvote
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>>378740954
The symbols on the mixer are just confusing.
Anyway, the separation may just be to save processing and battery power while not docked.
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>>378741118
And the wii u supported video and voice chat so we've gone backwards.
Hell even the 3DS has a front facing camera and mic input.
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>>378735816
(you)
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>>378741287
>>378741118
And those were all crap and unusable for games. Jesus at this rate you will praise "Hi pikachu" and the game boy camera just for the sake of flinging shit
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>>378736201
If you want to only talk to friends it's the best way of doing it. Who the fuck wants to talk to randoms
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>>378741486
>Instead of improving something, let's just throw it out and do a bunch of pointless shit to get the old thing working
People will defend this
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>>378741486
Yeah, fuck trying to improve what you already have.
Nintendo is learning from the EA big boys.
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>>378734810
Friendly reminder that Nintendo cucks will never hae a proper online system and voice chat because of all you being pedos and Nintendo is trying to Protect the Children!
>It all started with the DS and led to the Wii, 3DS and Wii U all having shit online.
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Great nintendo, i have to buy a switch AND a controller, then a couch, then a house. Now i have to buy a SMARTPHOKE to chat onlime?
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mfw Neo cucks react to this announcement
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>>378736696
>These autistic mental gymnastics
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>>378742403
They are literally OBSESSED with Trump LOL
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>>378742587
>incompatence
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>>378736210
Of course it will, its just an audio splitter that looks cuter and with a mute button. Something thats usually on a lot of headsets anyways.

http://a.co/2Uyu8CD
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>>378735489
Wow, wanna talk?
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Why is Nintendo trying to reinvent the horse?
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Wew lads this is embarrassing. And i say that as a huge sony fan
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>you have to buy a fucking adapter to voice chat
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I thought mad katz went out of business?
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>>378735279
So does bluetooth not exist in japan, or?
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>>378734810
it looks like a fucking SQUID
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>>378734810
>>378735279
oh i get it

it's shaped like a squid

cuz it's for splatoon
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>>378744417
>>378744693
>uselessly takes up irregular space because it's not perfect rectangle
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>>378734810
lol
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WAIT

I HAVE TO BUY A SMART PHONE TO USE VOICE CHAT? HOLY SHIT
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>>378741012
You know people have already taken apart the Switch and confirmed that there is mic input right?
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>>378734810
> forces phone shit
> lol no Bluetooth support
them accessory sales
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>>378742403
>>378742587

Only as much as /v/ is pathetically obsessed with them.
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How are you supposed to play with all that shit dangling all over the place?
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>>378745137
Even I have a smartphone despite being a shut-in retard with literally no friends, you have no excuses.
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>>378736485
>Using a phone to talk to each other
Damn this really made me think
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>>378744004
No you don't retard.
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>>378736976
lol no, its not needed if you dont voice chat
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>>378734810
>people thought a nintendo tablet was going to be a console
I am glad I didnt get this shit.

Guarantee the 2nd or 3rd revision will have this phone problem sorted.
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>tfw i only have a dumb phone because I'm way to clumsy

Maybe I should get a device for the house besides my pc and consoles.
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>>378735073
>>378735203
Hori makes officially licensed accessories, and this was posted on the official Splatoon Twitter. Nintendo ok'd, supports, and is advertising this thing.
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>>378735073
>>378735203
Why does this matter at all?
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>>378736530
lol wut?
People actually use full headsets?

I just use a one ear dealie and have speaker volume since 360 days
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>>378736485
WAIT WHAT?! USING A PHONE TO TALK?! WHO'S EVER HEARD OF SUCH A CONCEPT?!

ITS THE END OF THE FUCKING WORLD AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>378734810
Is this just unusable when docked?
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>>378753224
>he docks his switch

HAHAHAHHAHA
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what are the odds that the adapter ends up costing many times what you would pay for a normal headset?? nintendo love's its artificial scarcity.
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>>378753854
>hori accessory
Its fine, hori understands how to distribute a product unless its a limited edition obviously
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>>378753854
Supposedly it's ~$30 with the headset
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>>378735073
The other option is either having 4 ears, 2 pair of earphones one over the other or buying this shit.

The 3 of them are retarded. And yes, its FUCKING NINTENDO.
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>>378736174
Because Nintendo doesn't want chat on the system. Pictochat, Miiverse, & Swapnote got them in trouble with people worried about pedophiles, and forcing the chat app onto the phone pushes some of the blame and stigma off of them and onto phone companies and parents who let kids have phones too early.
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>>378754050
Or just use a small bluetooth headset with the phone and tv/switch volume for the game?

I dont get it.
I also never bought into the "gamer" headset meme. I have a pair of low end studio monitors and a dedicated mic
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>>378736696
>not having a modern headset that handles audio splitting
I know /v/ is actually retarded when it comes to anything more than plug-and-play consoles, but you do realize that most headsets have a way to handle two audio sources at a time, right?
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>>378753224

I don't even see how this would work in handheld mode, since you can't carry all that shit while playing the game. It ONLY works in tabletop mode and nothing else.
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>>378754264
Except its supposed to be able to work as portable console too so listening the game through headphones is a must. Or if you play at night. or in any place where you cant have BING BING WAHOOS at max volume.

> I have a pair of low end studio monitors and a dedicated mic
Yes, I have a high end pc too nigger. But the audio from the voice chat and the game comes from the same headphone

This third party device is 100% needed for people who want to listen to the game through headphones. And its retarded.
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>>378754498
only nintendo approved headsets work with the switch, thank you nintendo for saving our kids from pedophiles
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>>378754498
>he fell for the gaymer meme
Real headphones dont have 2 audio sources.
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>>378734810
>30$ headset
Why would you want one?
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Reposting from the other thread.
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>>378755106
I guess when Reggie and other business heads made this decision, they forgot that you still had to hear the game audio somehow.
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>>378754812
>This third party device is 100% needed for people who want to listen to the game through headphones
Okay I see what you mean.

I dont do portable much anymore
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>>378754812
Just run game sound through the line-in on your PC, and use Bluestacks to download the Nintendo app.
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>>378734810
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlhL_NIRDj4
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Post yfw you didn't buy a Switch.
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and if we play the game docked? The pro controller has a headphone jack, right?
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>yfw that nintendo mobile app doesnt use nintendo servers but teamspeak to chat
where does all that money from paid online go?
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>>378735816
>IT'S OKAY WHEN MY SWEET NINTENDO REMOVES A FEATURE OR MAKES IT EXTREMELY CUMBERSOME

This is you right now.
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>>378755764
The console headphone jack still works while docked.
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>>378755106
Does that quote have a source? If not then get out
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>>378755906
who the fuck has a 10ft long headphone cable to reach the console dock from their couch?
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>Charge for online
>Can't get a feature right that has been standard for a decade
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>>378755996
https://www.wired.com/2017/01/reggie-fils-aime-nintendo-interview/
It was as easy as searching "nintendo reggie headset"
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>>378756024
Who the fuck plays 10+ feet away from their TV?
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>there's actual people in this thread defending this monstruosity

Nintendorks never cease to amaze me.
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>>378736585
>>378740884
>>378741565
>>378756210
Nintenbros defended Nintendo selling empty Splatoon 2 boxes. The fact that they're defending this honestly doesn't surprise me.
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How does Nintendo even get by?

It takes them over two times as long for them to adapt to standards that literally everyone else has been doing for YEARS

>Online multiplayer that doesn't blow ass
>Hardware on par with competitors
>Third party games

The Switch is literally just going to be victim of the same cycle that hampered the Wii and destroyed the Wii U

>Nintendo makes a console with underpowered hardware and dumb gimmick
>Devs support starts strong
>Lack of online features, underperforming hardware, and need to incorporate dumb wagglan tier gimmick make porting games hard
>Xbox/PS versions of games sell more anyway
>Dev support declines
>Nintendo vows to win back support of devs and players by making yet another underpowered wagglan console
>Cycle repeats
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>>378756195
You'll want to have some slack, so that you aren't constantly on the verge of knocking over your switch. like come on are you even trying?
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>>378756195
Someone at bed
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>>378756501
>release the Switch with only one good game on launch.
>release a season pass for the new Fire Emblem for $45, the exact price of the game, that barely includes anything
>start selling literal empty fucking Splatoon 2 boxes
>announce that their next big project is a Mario crossover with fucking Rabbids.
>now this shit

And this is all BEFORE E3. Is Nintendo literally trying to go bankrupt?
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>>378756864
>he keeps games in his bedroom
Are you 5?
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>>378756525
It's sad to think the PS2 has done online better than anything Nintendo has ever done and that was disjointed as hell
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>>378756872
>release the Switch with only one good game on launch.
Early adopters always get bit in the ass, but I think it has a better release window than any other console this gen.
>release a season pass for the new Fire Emblem for $45, the exact price of the game, that barely includes anything
It's bullshit, FE on the 3DS has always had shitty, expensive DLC.
>start selling literal empty fucking Splatoon 2 boxes
For $5 for collection purposes. Really not a big deal considering they're still selling the bundle.
>announce that their next big project is a Mario crossover with fucking Rabbids.
Never actually officially announced, and it's Ubisoft's shitty project anyway.
>now this shit
This is pretty fucking bad and really ass-backwards
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>>378757170
>Never actually officially announced
Oh excuse me. It was leaked.
>it's Ubisoft's shitty project anyway.
It's a joint project between Nintendo and Ubisoft. Even if Ubi is developing, Nintendo greenlit it and put it on their console.
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>>378755106

So instead it's a bulky headset with a fucking mixer that has to be connected to your phone at all times.

Good one Reggie.
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>>378757170
>For $5 for collection purposes
It's a fucking empty box. There's nothing collectible about an empty box. And if anything, the box is probably worth $1 but they're selling it for $5.
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>>378757635
Then don't buy it? It provides absolutely no benefit.
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>>378756961
>he doesnt have all his stuff connected to everywhere in his house

I can play whatever I want from whatever tv/projector/pc monitor I want from my house. I bet you nigger probably dont even have a nas server. How does it feel to live like a fucking ape?
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>>378758020
Having electronics in the bedroom distracts from the main purpose of that entire area of the house: sleeping.
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>>378758209
>i cant sleep unless theres no distractions
Must be nice having a sealed bubble to sleep in.

Meanwhile the rest of the world has learned to deal life and its unexpected noises, distractions, and general tomfoolery
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>>378758371
I bet you have to drink coffee in the morning, faggot.
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>>378754572
I think the idea is that you have your phone and this thing >>378735279 in your pocket
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Did Nintendo think a chat app would be a vulnerability or something? The Switch is bereft of software features it almost seems like their entire deal is to limit the number of things that could be exploited.
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So is everyone going to pretend that they don't use Discord for everything anyway?
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>>378758717
It's possible. 2 Nintendo consoles in a row have had their main exploits executed through the web browser/other web app. And the Wii U was the third in a row to be exploited using software included on the console itself.
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>>378755106
Please someone make that arrow thing the shape of a dick.
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>>378758441
the cords on the adapter aren't long enough to be usable while carrying it in your pocket. the adapter and your phone have to be right next to the switch, sitting on a table... that's the only way this can work.

I'd be interested to see some advertisements that show how this thing would work in action, because I'm 99% sure it could only work if you have all that shit sitting on a table in front of you.
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>>378734810
Gay jews sure do love passing the buck and the cost onto you, the consumer.
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>>378758825

Yeah, I use discord to pick up in-game audio through the electronic aether, you dumb fuck.
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>Pay for online
>You have to use your phone as voice chat
>Can't even chat with anyone but friends
What the fuck is this backwards bullshit? Here I thought Nintendo was actually modernizing for a second
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>>378736023
you've never played splatoon, have you
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>>378759315
I'm pretty sure the cords are long enough for exactly that, though. Regardless, the product is still shit and I hope they change it.
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>>378734810
Well, thank goodness for the discord/Skype app and the fact that coordination is already easy in splatoon; shoot where your friends are not.
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>>378759963
>shoot where your friends are not.
Do you ONLY play turf war?
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>>378760148
I just have to be wrong, don't I?
Though I'd still say it applies in ranked with addition of worrying about the objective. Need to farm for your super somehow.
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>>378735639
and like many retarded sheeps, thats the only consideration you will make and you will buy it
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>>378735971
thats woodman, he fucks many hot chicks, why is he sad...
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> Nintendo Switch - $299.99
> Splatoon Headset and Audio Splitter - $30.00
> Switch Pro Controller - $69.00
> Splatoon 2 - $60.00
> Iphone 7 - $649.00
> Lightning to 3.5mm headphone adapter - (included)
> Iphone 7 USB charger - (included)
> Lightning to USB Cable, 2m - $29.00
> Extension Cord - $10.00
> Belkin Audio + Charge breakout dongle - $39.95
> 1 year of Nintendo Online Service - $30
> Subtotal - $1,216.94
> Tax and Tip - $97.36
> ------------------------------------------
Splatoon 2 final cost: $1,314.30
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>>378761163
worth it
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>>378761163
>Actually buying the pro controller unless you have a friend who plays too.
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>>378761163
For 1.3k, I'd rather just go buy an actual squid loli instead.
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>>378761163
HAHASHDASHDAHAHAH NINTENIGGERS BTFO
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>>378761163
you're forgetting about the house, food, couch/chair, television, fan, lights and socks you need
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>>378761369
Wat
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>>378761486
I said that Nintendo fans got blown away
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>>378761482

Don't be retarded, anon. Anyone who owns a Switch lives with their parents.
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>>378761652
By?
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>>378734810
This is all because of that Swapnote incident.

It prevents small kids from using the chat and even if something happens the blame is on the parents for lack of supervision since smart phones aren't inherently a "kid's toy" like nintendo products are.
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>>378761879
this

*unzips dick*
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>>378757340
>Nintendo greenlit it and put it on their console.
So we can fully blame Sony, Microsoft and Steam for all the shit games on their platforms?
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>>378761163
what the fuck? where are the clothing costs? am I buying all these things naked?
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>>378761898
>It prevents small kids from using the chat and even if something happens the blame is on the parents for lack of supervision since smart phones aren't inherently a "kid's toy" like nintendo products are.

The Switch has built in parental controls already, so they can't use the "b-but the children" this time. They could've easily just had voice chat built into the system and made it the parents responsibilty whether to have it enabled for their kids to use or not.
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>>378762001
>>378761482

>Nintenfags abuse hyperbole in a sad attempt at damage control.

Disgusting.
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>buying a launch Switch

You faggots do know that the inevitable Switch XL or whatever the next revamp is will probably have built in voice chat and longer battery life. There will actually be games then too.
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>>378761898
does nintendo know how many 8-12 year old little shits have smart phones
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>>378761953
...neat.
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It's shit, I'm not going to defend it, absolutely retarded decision

At the same time though, I really don't care because I don't use voice chat anyway, even on my Xbox, if I have to use voice chat with friends we'll use Discord or skype
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>>378762149
>Nintendo products ever having voice chat

You HAVE to be new.
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>>378734810
Both the Wii U and 3DS had a built in mic.
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HOW THE FUCK
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>>378762135
This would be the logical thing but parental controls have been a thing since the wii but irresponsible parents will never take responsibility for their lack of involvement.

This is to prevent a PR disaster.
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>>378762149
I prefer waiting for CFW to play my "backups"
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>>378762379
Right? Who still plays Dragon Quest in 2017?
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>>378734810
This is unexcusable but people will defend it because they are dumb
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>>378762379

Japan would buy squid shaped shits if they were official Splatoon products.
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>>378762379
>shoots right up to first
kek
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>>378762379
nips are like 1% the USA population so it doesn't mean shit
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>Phones moving away from aux jacks
>Bluetooth 5.0
>HEY LETS USE NOT 1, BUT TWO!!
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WHAT ABOUT BLUETOOTH HEADSETS NINTENDO!!!!!!?
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>>378762402
They could have the built-in voice chat disabled by default, and to enable it you need to agree to a legal disclosure saying that you are over 18 and you take full responsibility for any kids that communicate online using this system.

There you go, it's very simple. There was no need for them to implement this retarded smartphone system. Any unfair attempts by the media to give them bad press over this would pass very quickly, and would be much less negative overall than the bad press they'll get from this current system.
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>>378734810
Whoever came up with this idea needs to get fired. There is no way to defend this.
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>>378762686
they're at least 50% of the splatoon playerbase, though
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nintendo has had bluetooth since the wii, but their os design doesn't really allow for tech to be bolted on
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>>378761486
>>378761879
>>378762221
Stop typing like an autistic person.
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>>378763007
>It was most likely a decision by the guys on top. Reggie was hyping it up and he's _president_
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>>378763076
>Getting triggered by single words
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>>378763038
mk8 on wii u had voice chat that worked through the gamepad's mic
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>>378763076
No.
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Wait does that mean you can just drop your phone next to you and speak normally without needing a microphone?

That actually sounds sweet.
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>>378763170
Don't tell me how I feel.
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Here's my bit, and I'll get called a faggot but whatever here's my theory. Also I haven't slept or jacked off in 2 days so forgive me You Fucks

The Nintendo switch is a portable console. Well it can't have its own internet connection unless Nintendo partners with Verizon or some shit which they're not gonna do. So they gotta decide how they'll do voice. Well everyone who can afford a switch has a smart phone, anyone who doesn't is black or just needs to die. So what do they do? They could get the Switch to work with mobile hotspots like people do but most phone companies have limited hotspot data and then it gets throttled n shit and it's not practical, so what to do?

Make they voice be in an independent and dedicated app on smartphones.

But the masses still want to hear the game while they're talking to friends and stuff, so what to do? Well headphone splitters are a thing, why not make one that goes in reverse, matching up the phone and tablet audio into one set of 'phones. Allowing their customers to hear both the voice audio and game audio, without having to charge a FUCK ton more for the Switch by having more internal parts and adaptors n shit for voice only on the console, and for maybe what $5-10 for the app if they charge by itself or $5-10 a month or whatever they're charging for their online service and the voice chat phone might be included in that.

Really as stupid as the arrow looks, It's not all that confusing as to why they did it. Saves them from charging the fuck out of customers so they're more inclined to buy the console, plus once they have the console they'll be inclined to buy the arrow thing for $20-30

I dunno yo
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>>378762992
That doesn't stop the general public from blaming a company, disclaimers just prevent them from getting sued.

People blame video games for irl violence so these are not reasonable people, just bad parents.
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>>378763293
>I love this shit you guys
>shit is very tasty, especially if it's from nintendo!
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>>378763293
how is the game audio not going to go through as well
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>>378763394
No one is going to be playing online on mobile network, and we've already had portable systems that just use mics for voice chat onli e without issue.

There is no excuse.
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>>378763293
Oh yeah I can't wait to have my speakerphone going all the time. Why even have the app?

They're better off just saying "Yeah for voice chat you take out your phone and call your friends"
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>>378763394
You...you just made it seem like a good idea to me. Well done.
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Is this confirmed to be the only to voice chat?
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>>378763394
None of what you wrote actually does anything to fix the problem you described, online gaming outside the house.
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>>378735279
Are you guys retarded?
Cables are usually shortened in promotional images to make them look more sleek
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>>378763637
b-but what if you wanna communicate with randoms. You can't Skype conference them.
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>>378763394
>Having the switch have a mic and audio passthrough would have made it cost a ton more!

Literally pennies.
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>>378762192
Underrated post.
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>>378763707
It matches what Reggie personally described, which was using your phone which he said was better...
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>>378763584
>No one is going to be playing online on mobile network
Hasn't Nintendo already confirmed their intent to have their network, voice, and other things be on apps?

What do apps use? Well if you're playing a Nintendo Switch in the middle of the woods with bears and wanna talk to your flamingo friends while shootin the goo at kids with spandex, then it'll be using a fucking mobile network.

>>378763902
I dunno yo, maybe plugging the cables from switch and phone into the arrow somehow hooks up the Wi-Fi too, I can't fucking tell what Nintendo is doing anymore

>>378763984
Are you gonna shell out those pennies mr. Goyim? Didn't think so
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>>378762686
Kinda does when Japan's part of the G-7 and is the 3rd most powerful economy in the world.
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>>378734810
See, this is why I don't have a Switch yet. Stuff like this.

I want Nintendo to become normal already. Stop making dumb decisions like this.
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>>378763394
This doesn't make sense - the only time you'd be using voicechat is when you're playing online, so all the hotspot throttling/integrated cellular modem problems you're describing are moot since the game would need an internet connection anyways. Even if the Switch is a portable console, there's no reason to use voicechat when the device itself is not connected to the internet.
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>>378764090
>maybe plugging the cables from switch and phone into the arrow somehow hooks up the Wi-Fi too

Not only does it not do that, but cellphone service providers would never allow that to be a thing when mobile hotspot features is something they all charge extra for.

Also, you don't understand that mobile networks are too slow and unreliable to do online gaming on.
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>>378757635
Move that goalpost. Move it reeeeal good.
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Lmao wtf is this for real?
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This makes no sense whatsoever.

So if i'm talking with my phone to others, is the audio coming out of the TV or my phone? What if my TV setup is kind of far from my couch? Will my voice sound horrible because i have to connect my phone with a cord that's less than 3 ft long?
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It has to be an iphone too i bet haha wow
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>>378764526
It comes out the TV.
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Will the adaptor be sold separately for cheap? Some people use a separate device for voice chat than their PC games for some reason, and I hate either hearing echoes of the chat or their game sounds leaking in.
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>>378764580
The other people talking audio?
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>>378761163
> Nintendo Switch - $299.99
> Splatoon Headset and Audio Splitter - $30.00
> Switch Pro Controller - (not needed to play)
> Splatoon 2 - $60.00
> Smartphone - $150.00 (can be used with any iPhone or Android device)
> Lightning to 3.5mm headphone adapter - (included)
> 1 year of Nintendo Online Service - $30
> Subtotal - $1,216.94
> Tax and Tip - $97.36
> ------------------------------------------
Final cost: $569,99

For which you get a console/handheld, a game, a supscription to play online, 1 year worth of free games, and all the hardware you need to play future online games as well

The smartphone part is still retarded, but not as retarded as this anon, making bulshit up.
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>>378734810
>wanting voice chat
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>>378764606
You can buy adapter right now it costs about 7$ it's not like this adapter is Nintendo's invention.
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>>378755106
But that image suggests that they're selling you a bulky gamer headset anyway, so why don't they cut out the middle bit, and the useless phone app and just let you plug your headset into the Switch...

This is making my head hurt, I don't get it.
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>>378764758
>wanting nintendo to not have a basic function that 99% of other video games support either directly or indirectly.
found the nigger
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>>378764526
The voice chat's completely handled by the phone. If you're using it without a headset and mixer, you'll get voices from the phone and game audio from the TV.

The mixer's mainly intended for playing in portable mode.
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>Switchfags STILL this delusional that they think Nintendo is going to drop out of the handheld market and not make another successor to the 3DS

NEWS FLASH RETARDS: NINTENDO NEVER ADVERTISED THE SWITCH AS A HYBRID CONSOLE, IT WAS ALWAYS REFERRED TO IT AS A HOME CONSOLE

I can't WAIT for Nintendo to announce a 3DS successor next year and see Switchtards cry and baww that they aren't going to get all the handheld games like the new Pokemans.

You bought an underpowered home console that can be used as a tablet. A Wii U 2.0.
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>>378764867
they could certainly lock out any device not made by Nintendo, if they decided to do so, so they can market their own endorsed brand of jack.
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>>378765040
>Faggots actually believe this
>Faggots actually believed the "third pillar" too
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>>378765076
If they locked it out it would mean you could only use Nintendo's headsets.
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>>378764910
>still wanting voice chat
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>>378765216
and they don't make those. i see where i'm wrong.
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>>378765040
I know. Is this the part I'm btfo'd?
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>>378765361
>still wanting voice chat
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>>378762379
Delete this!
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>>378765498
pretty much required in team games so you can coordinate everyone.

splatoon with friends online was the worst because you knew people were communicating and coordinating their efforts.
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>>378765567
>still wanting voice chat
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>>378765737
this is the kind of person who belongs on voice channels.
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>>378734810
BULKY
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>>378764937
It's intended for anyone that wants chat and game audio coming through the same pair of headphones. You can still plug headphones directly into the Switch while it's docked.
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>>378734810
Imagine hearing someone in the voice chat, knowing that he had to go through all of this shit.
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>>378764867
I don't even know what to call these, I'm as opposite to /g/ as it gets. All I can find are splitters, can you help a friendo out?
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>>378735058
You fucking mongoloids, you think OP's just hoarding the information? Muawahahahaha you must find it on your own, pleb!

This is why cucks exist.
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>>378766009
Not that it won't work or anything, but I don't think they're expecting people to play sitting on their couches with audio cords going all the way to the dock. This looks like a handheld solution. When playing docked, you'd just be using the phone directly.
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>>378756501
I want those joycons
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https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoSwitch/comments/6ellw4/official_splatoon_headset_for_nintendo_switch/

HAHAHAAHAH

EVEN THE SWITCH REDDIT FANBOYS AREN'T DEFENDING THIS SHIT

ONLY ON /V/
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>>378766395
May be, but I'm always sitting within arm's reach of my Switch whenever I'm playing it anyway.
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>>378734810
>He needs a voice chat
What are you, gamer?
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>>378735816
you see anon, once you graduate highschool and have to start working and living your life, couch coop with your friends isn't always an option.
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>>378734810
WTF Nintendo is thinking.
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>>378766284
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gold-Plated-Audio-Mic-Y-Splitter-Cable-Headphone-Adapter-Female-to-2-Male-3-5mm-/371873279307
You might find cheaper ones though.
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>>378766519
>Browsing reddit
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>>378766780
they don't want to give you a voice because you shit
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>>378736898
>>378749287
>>378751809
>being this much of a nintendo apologist faggot

I understand you guys are used to begging for table scraps and playing with uncomfortable accessories but this shit is ridiculous.
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>>378764735
>tax
lmaoing @ ur life
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>>378751254
you know how many people mute you because you are blasting your tv sound through your headset?

kys
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>>378767264
its just not that hard to use a phone to talk to people, I don't know how you are pretending otherwise
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>>378766937
>female to 2 male
Thanks, I at least know where to start looking
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>>378734810
>drones will defend this
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>>378756872
Also that one game was a port
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Imagine if they released a game like siege where communication with your team is vital on the switch and you couldn't actually talk to your teammates.

They're actually limiting the games that can be made for the console. Have a game that requires any level of communication and coordination? Forget about releasing it on the switch.
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>>378767949
>Have a game that requires any level of communication and coordination? Forget about releasing it on the switch.
There's barely any games like that on the market to begin with
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>>378755465
>all you need to do is use your pc and your console to use the voice chat
>you fucking IDIOT

sounds like a real reasonable alternative anon
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>>378754812
Who the fuck needs voice chat on a handheld
I can barely think of any fucking time outside of my own home where I'd play online with any handheld.

Why does this matter
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>>378768074
And no one will want to develop any like that for Nintendo's console in the future.
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>>378768246
It's what I already do. I don't like having to constantly move all my shit between console and PC.
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>>378768293
If they even existed
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>>378768275
>Who the fuck needs voice chat on a handheld
The Switch isn't a handheld
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>>378736042
desu i do this already with my ps4
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>>378768074
Why would you play an online fps with "communication" at a train station?
Just do it at home and just use some stupid 5 dollar USB adapter that lets you connect a normal ass headset and you'll be done with it.
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>>378768418
monster hunter has a little of that vibe, no one cares about in game voip
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>>378744859
Well it's shittendo after all. Kings of uselss gimmicks.
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>>378768439
What the fuck am I reading
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>>378735279
The short cables are for phone and console, you have your headset cable.
Makes perfect sense, those two would or pain in the ass if the were longer.

>Shaped like a squid
Fucking cute.
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>>378768693
is not every game useless
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>>378734810
I'm amazed that westerners don't still understand the sentiment.

It's not that Nintendo can't handle "voice chat" and it's never been the case even back with the Wii, it's literally that the company is ahead of the curve on the ramifications of open-ended voice chat across country borders with the company branding attached.

Nintendo will never outright state it, but the issue clearly is and always will be western-influenced ignorance and negative media narrative spinning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xAK-X0RA5o This is why.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKzF173GqTU This is why.

America has done more to build up Nintendo's Reputation as "for kids" than Nintendo itself ever has and as Nintendo's built up right now, the social climate is primed for just the wrong string of words to come out of the mouth of the most common of low-minded people to harm their reputation. Just google
google "wii fit obese" and see the articles and you'll start to see the picture.

And you all wonder why friend codes were such a hassle and why messaging was such a chore? That's why. The entire motive behind their "Online communication" principles in every single venture is to reduce the chance of ill-placed blame. Go back and take a look, when you think critically on it, you'll start to notice. Even Pokemon Go, The Wii and Wii fit in general were designed on certain principles of dodging allegations of games making people less healthy and the era of "nintendo caution warning screens" ever since the Wii were specifically to shut down people who would be too dumb or ignorant to properly operate the consoles and naively blame the company for the user's failure to restrain themselves or pay attention to their surroundings.
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>>378756961
>mocking people for playing video games in a video game board
>shiggy diggy


thats some deep seated projection anon, did someone make fun of you for playing video games?
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>>378768418
Siege
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>>378764895
it's because that thing is made by Hori. it's not nintendo's product. there isn't even any phone app or voice function in the switch yet and nothing like that has even been announced. it's a useless piece of plastic.
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>>378769110
they don't want pedo's talking to children, simple as that
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>>378761979
what the fuck are you talking about? people are always blaming microsoft sony and steam for their shitty games and ports


are you new here?
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>>378769110
The fact that America already has a massive problem not containing this "social justice/outrage culture" and gamergate absolutely failed to contain and destroy what qualifies as "willful ignorance of business, technology, and all manner of personal responsibilities of adults", Nintendo doesn't have any interest giving America an inch for blame to be posted on them for nonsense that can't be faulted on the product, but instead should be the responsibility of the culture which they sell their products to.

You few who haven't been world-traveled enough might not know this, but outside the world of your experiences of constant growing thick skin online, the rest of the world is really less concerned and uninterested in this outbreak of outrage culture, but many companies that have successfully dodged certain things know full well how and where to compromise in order to still continue selling products.

After all the nonsense going on in america now, Nintendo definitely doesn't want to be the one selling a game with splatoon's visuals with "Call of Halo's Modern Battlefield-style online speak" coming out of the television or console.

This was specifically done with the exact principle to dodge any and all possibility to have nintendo be blamed for the choices of friends that the player has and for the owe to be on the parents. If you otherwise wanted more proper online voice chat, then America should have spent the last 30 years better developing their social environments full of higher language tolerance and less social autocannibalism. If you disagree with that, then the only alternative is to encourage change in the current world of online mic users to outright end all acts of using foul language whether or not in either celebration or anger.
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>>378766519
further evidence that all shitposters are redditors. Also, I don't see fucking anyone here defending this anyway.
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>>378769745
All of the anger directed at Nintendo is misplaced. Look in a mirror and the local environments you inhabit as well as the friends you keep and think of what you allow your environment to become. Now, think of the fact that companies need to maintain good P.R. to run a business just for them to be able to properly sell you any game. If you don't conduct yourself n a way that protects the company's interests (which is YOU.) then you have only yourself to blame. I've never owned a single nintendo console and have wasted more of my life on starcraft/diablo/warcraft/dota//counterstrike that most of you probably have and even I'm not blind enough by my own interests to ignore Nintendo's position.

It's really the uninquisitive and overeager for instant gratification that lack any common sense or ability to control themselves that are to blame. Things could be better, but it will take time, patience, dedication and discipline, things that most western-world players are in very short supply of.

Be a pretentious, ignorant of insight dimwit of a troll if you want with your replies. At least I made an effort to help by shedding light on what you've been failing to understand for years. Not a single one of you have the life or effort to prove you can do the same. You'll just keep complaining...and keep getting shafted like this for another ten more years raging at a machine of your own make instead of acknowledging the real monster.

Don't be a neophyte peasant that plays with the very first gun that he finds by shooting himself in the foot every time he gets angry that people keep child-proofing all of his belongings. When you get nonsense like this, only three words ever need be said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOG1rygjYEQ
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My Bluetooth headset can take input from more than one source at once. Can I just use that?
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>>378769729
dumb that you don't understand its genius. I'll see you next time outside for a walk with your ps4 using voip
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>>378764090
go to bed and rub one out, jesus christ
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>>378764735
to be fair you're both retarded for even calculating and green texting it
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>>378769890
The JoyCons use Bluetooth but the Switch can't detect headphones because meme
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>>378734810
>Splitter
>40bux
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>meanwhile on PC
>on discord
>BURRRP
>FUCK WHO ISNT HELPING
>FUCK OFF NIGGER
>MOM WHEN IS DINNER READY
>THIS IS BULLSHIT THEY BUFFED XYZ CHARACTER
>slams microphone*
>I FUCKED UR MOTHER
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>>378770381
wtf? Nintendo made a great move now!
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>>378770381
>some kind of endless static noise because some dumbass has his fan on next to his headset
>in the background, children
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>>378770381
>meanwhile on PS4
>...
>...
>FOOKIN KUNT OI FOOKIN SHOT U
>...
>hello does anyone have a mic
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>>378741548
You can't voice chat with randoms in Splatoon 2 anyway, private matches only.
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>>378767438
its even easier to plug a fucking headset into a console and be able to talk right from there, but nooooo now you need to have your phone attached to the dongle attached to your headset and your system

I understand you want to protect your precious nintendo from being shit talked but even a troglodyte such as yourself could see the redundancy of this shit
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Innovation!
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>>378770493
>working hard to win the game
>all of a sudden
>WHY DONT YOU PUSSIES PUSH THE FUCKING OBJECTIVE SO WE CAN WIN FUCK THIS SHIT TEAM
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>>378769950
I need an edit of this man holding the two Joy Cons, the Switch console, and his phone saying Why can't I hold all this genius

because that's how dumb you look
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>>378756501
>Nintenbros defended Nintendo selling empty Splatoon 2 boxes
>Selling empty boxes

You're a fucking idiot.

If you buy a digital version at a game store, you can get a box regardless if you want one. They're not just selling boxes.
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>>378769340
>And /v/ is full of pedos who want to talk to kids mad Nintendo won't let them
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>>378770637
>keeping his stool as far as possible just to inconvenience himself further
I like this meme
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>>378770819
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>>378770880
>sitting directly in front of a television screen

You are destroying your eyes anon
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>>378770626
Do you suffer from some sort of disability that makes using the phone harder for you then anyone else because i can't understand how you make it seem using a phone is inconvenient.
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I hope Nitnendo fails with this shit. Such a backwards ass concept. It's fucking 2017. You know, being that this is Nintendo and their fanbase buys anything, I almost can see this working.

But one problem: what about the majority of kids that dont have smartphones or a data service outside of wifi?
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>People on /v/ are actually defending this
How many of you here can legally buy alcohol?
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>>378770637

I hate you
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>>378770819
They are literally selling just empty boxes.
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>>378771075
thats a myth anon. do you believe everything mommy says?


https://www.aao.org/eye-health/ask-ophthalmologist-q/can-close-tv-viewing-damage-eyes
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>>378771179
thats the point
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Japan is like:

>Dis is best sorution ever!

Japan was also nuked; twice.
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>>378771075
>>378770880
>>378771490
Why would you sit that close to the TV anyway?
You look like a fucking retard doing that
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Nintendo just needs to innovate and release a combination gaming headset / iPhone case. Perhaps with a fan in case the phone gets hot at the back of your head.
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>>378771268
it doesn't need defending. Want to talk to other people. Use a phone.
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>>378772090
Why not just made a Switch case that can hold a phone on the back?!

Holy shit why don't I work for Nintendo?
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>>378771101
I understand autism usually makes it difficult to see other peoples points of views so I'll try and make it easy on you.


streamlined is better. period.
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>>378769340
>this meme.
>this bait.
>this delusion.
>this is a side effect of "the echo chamber for lulz" cancer.
That's not good enough justification for Nintendo, otherwise, Pokemon in and of itself in mainline game form (trading) and Pokemon GO would have never been greenlit or launched/released.

Hell, Japan's entire culture of history is too far apart and distantly alien from America's for "Adults talking with children" to be any kind of problem simply because it's been deeply driven into Japan's culture that disrespecting children bodes highly negative future repercussions long before the phrase "sexual harassment" even existed. The whole "child molest via online lure" angle is purely western alarmist and if it ever caught on as a thing, it definitely started in far-western territories as Japan and South Korea never had the wherewithal, spine or train of thought to consider that simply because of things like love motels and red light districts being more commonplace and hardly anywhere as frowned upon in their societies.

Westerners project blame because they are more likely than other regions to be lax on teaching good values and indiscriminately substitute technology or toys for parenting far more frequently as it's far easier to complain the ESRB into existence rather than take responsibility for themselves and/or being responsible with raising their children.

That is a factor that impacts nintendo's bottom line, and so you get this instead of built-in native voice chat, because it must never a direct line to nintendo's reputation.
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>>378735353
Not even that, since you can't even talk to people who are not in your friendlist.
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Sony fag, here i'm actually more pissed about the Pro Controller not having a headphone jack than this, i don't give a fuck about voice chat.
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>>378772124
>It doesn't need defending
That explains the first 50 posts then
>Use a phone
But there's so many other easy alternatives, Anon
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>>378772409
Maybe you live in a bubble? No matter how hare you believe, using a phone to talk to people isn't getting any harder for anyone else tomorrow.
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>>378772604
but you are wrong
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>>378736042
>Willfully using spyware
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>>378769110
>>378769745
>>378769832
>>378772483
>obsessed on historical context
>quilty
Dude. You familiar with that native-korean-born black dude on starcraft with the mental disorder thing?
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>>378735019
>Well, I have Switch with 7 games

Why? I can understand buying the definitive zelda/mariokart and maybe arms.. but what are the other 3? Are people THAT starved for games that you buy anything they shit out for the system? Stop doing that. Just play games on another platform until something good comes out on the Switch.
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>>378763391
>But I'll tell everyone else how to type
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>>378771812
Because I like to see the things on the screen
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>>378773474
He probably bought Isaac for the 10th time and some more indie crap
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>>378773450
Speaking.

There is a disparity between western public perception behind what constitutes 'disorder' and the actual implications behind what Synesthesia is as a neurological phenomenon.

I've been classified as a synesthete, but not labeled by any brand of disorder as I have no "dis" function, only a more active form of perceiving time in the shape of a construct rather than as a moment others are supposedly seeing as fleeting, so in the real world, I don't have interest in hanging around the same group of people or places for very long.

It's not complicated from my pov, but other people tell me that it's confusing. The less people are willing to tolerate of learning, the faster they are to cast it off as a disorder when the only thing wrong with me is that I tire of bullshiting, lies and things that are flat-out incorrect faster than most people.
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>"Instead of having some sort of bulky gamer headset, you’ll be able to do it right off your smartphone, put in your earbuds that you use for your standard mobile device. We think that’s a pretty sweet solution."
>Also here's this licensed headgear that makes playing with online friends on Switch even bulkier than a third party Xbox One headset
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>>378766386
Seriously fucking kill yourself. This is easily the most cringeworthy post on 4chan in weeks and I can tell it's genuinely some little kid trying to fit in.
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>portable gaming
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>>378775182

Wow, such an intellectual above all of the plebeians. You're like the Kafka and Einstein of our generation.
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>>378735908
35 USD for a microphone AND a game

I don't think so.
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>>378771101
>using a phone is inconvenient

No, but using a phone to communicate while you're in the middle of a game on your separate, dedicated gaming device is the fucking definition of inconvenient. There is literally no justification for it, it's sheer laziness.
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>>378770637

what about the charger cable for my phone?
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>>378735589
>console
>wired headset
Good lord, are Nintendo fucking retarded?
>need to connect to phone
Guess they are.
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>>378770819
>They're not just selling boxes.
Anon...
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/nintendo-is-selling-an-empty-splatoon-2-box/1100-6450226/
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>>378757739
J-just don't buy it!
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>>378774693
>I like to see the things on the screen
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>>378776105
I don't think you know how a phone works.
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>>378776329
Can't even use a Bluetooth headset because the shitty controllers need all of the channel bandwidth.

Just think....this thing is going to be around in 2020...probably.
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>>378750272
get an otterbox for a smartphone, those things are fucking indestructible
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>>378764093

Something doing well in Japan doesnt mean shit when USA + EUROPE market combined is 10x bigger than Japan.


FIFA 17 on PS4 (not counting PC or xBone) in EUROPE ALONE (not counting USA and rest of the world) sold more units than the top 10 best selling games in all Japan combined last year.

Thats how big the difference in markets is and how little Japan matters.
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>>378776445
Don't buy it if you don't like it.

What's the problem?
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>>378775592
>didn't understand.

It doesn't make me intellectual to perceive in a way that's considered aberrant. I'm no more or less human than anybody else. I'm just more intolerable by fact of my own inability to tolerate most things people are accustomed to, thus easily dismissed as having a disorder because it requires less thinking to tell apart. I'm not a savant, and I'm already feeling dismissive of putting further effort into explaining it, especially because I'm starting to sound like a special snowflake attention whore when that was far from the intent.

In short. I envy all of you more than you ever will me.
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>>378768439
well then why does the audio need to be combined when you can use your TV?
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>>378735816
>defending this
fuck off Cody
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>>378735947
And it also has a true local multi mode now.
What's your point
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>>378776863
The problem is that a video game company is LITERALLY SELLING EMPTY FUCKING BOXES.
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I own a switch and I still cannot wait to see what a fucking travesty their phone app multiplayer bullshit is.
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>>378777059
Why is that a problem? People who want it will buy it. People who don't... Won't.

I'm having trouble understanding the outrage.
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>>378776445
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>>378777154
Not that guy, but it speaks volumes when a company can literally sell you an empty box and people will defend it.
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>>378736696
>Without it you need to either have your voice chat phone on speaker picking up your TV noise while you play or put headphones on for either the game or the voice chat and be unable to properly hear the other.
>put headphones on for either the game or the voice chat and be unable to properly hear the other
what the fuck are you talking about? the normal setup for voice chat is to have it run over a headset while the TV plays the game audio as usual and most people can hear what they need to hear just fine that way
this is a meme accessory that Nintendo is only licensing and supporting because the console HAS NO VOICE CHAT
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>>378776924
it doesn't
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs29I_kzHXo
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>>378761163
You forgot the cost of the tv and electricity
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>>378761163
>forgetting the price of the house you live in
>forgetting the price of the chair you sit on
>forgetting the price of the table you put the stuff on
wow way to undersell it Nintendo shill
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will it work for the MHXX port?`
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>>378777268
No one is defending it though.
Believe it or not there is a third option Herr.
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Unpractical design, people will vote with their wallets.
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>>378777268
I'm not defending it so much as asking what the problem even is.
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>>378776445
it's the same price as a physical copy of the game so I don't see the problem. If anything, it's a decent option for those that prefer download codes but still want the case for collector's value.
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>>378736224
what the fuck kind of headset or microphone are you using, or how fucking loud do you have your TV, that you can't keep it from picking up the game audio? and again, how are you unable to hear the game at all just because someone is talking through a headset, what kind of fucking headset is it or how fucking quiet is your TV if you can't hear both?
like holy shit is /v/ really this bad?
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Couldn't they just make a bluetooth headset that has 2 inputs? That would seem the logical solution.
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>>378761163
>not getting the warranty
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>>378777268
>Japan is the biggest country in the world in terms of collections, industry is huge with tons of chains there
>People want boxes so they can collect Splatoon games better
>Nintendo sells them
How is that bad? There is a niche market, they are making profit of it, that's business 101.
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>>378777625
Read it again. There's no download code or anything. It's just an empty box.
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>>378777554
People have defended it though. They talked about how it's "good for collectors," and a bunch of other stuff.

>>378777589
I suppose the problem is is that people actually get into a conversation over whether or not the thing is completely fucking ridiculous. I mean they're charging people for an empty cardboard box.
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What advantage does this have over just loading up skype on your phone?
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>>378777693
More expensive probably.
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>>378777786
So there is no problem? People are just shitposting about it?
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>>378759341

>he doesnt have all his gaming console audio universally come out of his pc

Point and laugh
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>>378762379
so is nintendos money making strategy for the switch to create loads of pointless expensive peripherals?
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>>378777786
>They talked about how it's "good for collectors," and a bunch of other stuff.
Yes?
That's not defending it, that's stating a fact. Collectors will buy this junk for extortionate prices this time however they can get it for dirt cheap.
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>>378777795
you can hear the game aswell

That's the whole point of this convoluted headset.
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>>378773474
There's at least 5(more than that in my personal opinion) objectively quality games for the Switch rn so I hardly think it's people getting games for the sake of it. That's not even counting digital only stuff like NeoGeo titles
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>>378777979
You are defending it though.

I mean I honestly don't know what to say. Here we are, you and me, having a conversation over whether or not selling people a cardboard box isn't retarded, and you're leaning more towards it being not.
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>>378777756
>"Instead, you'll get a plastic box containing a paper download code."
I swear /v/ gets more retarded every day.
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>>378778178
>That's not even counting digital only stuff like NeoGeo titles
>tfw got 18th high score on Blazing Star
>TFW seeing the point gap
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>>378734810
So when I pull the lever, does the trolley kill the phone?
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>>378755106

Why the fuck would I need more than just the phone with the headset plugged into that? Just have voice chat going on in your headphones and listen to the game volume through the regular switch speakers
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>>378777059
Why are you such a ass blasted bitch who can't fathom that products exist that while YOU personally may not want, others could see value in. I don't get a fuck about a box either but I'm not gonna sperg out cause it exists. I have a few friends who are autistic about shit like this so I know there's a market for it(if a tiny one)
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>>378778373
That is all you need.
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>>378778269
One more time, this is not a defense this is simply stating a fact.
Hardcore collectors are retarded in and of themselves to the point that they would pay 50 dollars for a box like that.

This is being sold for what, around 5?
How is saying that it's better for them defending it when it's a cold hard fact about these people?
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>>378735394
>Sup guys, just got off work
>*Loud bubbling sounds*
>Dude, I am so fucking high
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>>378777551
I hope so Anon, would be cool for hunting sessions with the bros. I'm sure it'll work with discord even if MHXX doesn't use the app
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>>378778584
Then I'd say it's more exploitative than anything. It's Nintendo recognizing that "you people will buy anything, so let me help you out here."

I could understand if it was maybe some sort of toolkit to make your Switch look like the Splatoon Switch, without having to shell out $300, but it's literally just the box that the intended product is meant to be placed in.
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>>378778895
>I could understand if it was maybe some sort of toolkit to make your Switch look like the Splatoon Switch
Isn't it just the joycons that are different?
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>>378778895
You need to get a life Anon, if anything it's the opposite of exploitive. They're literally making it so collectors don't have to go through scalpers to sate their autism. I don't know why the Switch triggers /v/ to the degree that they literally have to shitpost every single piece of information even remotely pertaining to it
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>>378734810
>people will buy this
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>>378779260
People will buy it and they won't even use it with a switch.
Fancy that.
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>>378779151
That's kind of my point, right? Why not sell some plastic or rubber thing for the controllers along with the box? Probably wouldn't cost that much more, and it'd get you something other than, you know, a box.

>>378779176
Hey pal, I own a Switch. I fucking can still find selling people a box retarded.

Collectors will allow themselves to get scammed if they so want to regardless. This is just enabling one tiny thing for them, while Nintendo gets a bit of extra profit.
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>>378761898
what incident was that?
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>>378764735
>> Smartphone - $150.00
nigga you what
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>>378779260
of course.
i've always wanted a smartphone compatible headset with an extra audio input jack and now I have all the reason to get one.
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>>378779683
Pedos were using it to get CP which is why they shut it down.
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>>378735816
you're either a troll or a shill.
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>>378779683
nude pics were sent
swapnote went dead
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FUCKING DS HAD A VOICE CHAT
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>>378772863
>>378776680
low quality bait
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>>378769745
>The fact that America already has a massive problem not containing this "social justice/outrage culture"
do you even know who actually campaigns against games? it's hyper-conservative Christians with nothing to do
some blue-haired asshole might whine about them, but that's not who gets heard in the mainstream news, nor are they the ones that threaten to refuse to buy them for their kids
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>>378779910
>>378779995
Now I understand why /v/irgins desperately want Nintendo to add voice chat. This makes me wanna puke.
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>>378780250
How do explain this "outrage" for a japan only headset for a game that doesn't use voicechat.
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>>378770157
I've heard it can't really detect the controller either
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>>378779995
It was more than just pics. They were setting up meetings at love hotels.
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>>378755283
>>378755996
>>378755106
>>378756103
Reggie is from Nintendo of America
Only Japanese divisions are in charge of anything, NoA and NoE etc only do translations, publishing and marketing
Being a meme is Reggie's most important job, I wouldn't even be surprised if he wasn't informed when saying this quote
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>>378734810
EXPUNGE YOUR POST
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>>378780546
Oh it can detect controllers just fine.
Its the left joycon that's the problem.
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What if you just use it as a regular headset?
>Unplug the Headset from the mixer
>Plug the Headset directly into your phone.
>Use as regular headset

MIND =BLOWN
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>nintendo has online service on the Famicom
>in fucking 2017 it can't even get a voice chat service working

What the fuck happened?
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>>378780828
Read the thread retard.
The problem isn't that they can't its the people using it.
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>>378762192
underrated post
chuckled
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>>378780828
its a shitty gimmick, and fuck off you have no friends.
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>>378734810
So not only do you need a phone, but you also need some sort of adapter?

Jesus, Nintendo.
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>>378776445
for $5
it's fucking nothing
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>>378781184
So if I offered to sell you a used condom for $5, would you buy it since $5 is nothing?
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How are you supposed to hold the fucking phone anyway?
Without this headset and dongle ofc
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>>378781158

yeah the picture is literal, its the size of a brick and the cables have the girth of elephant feet.
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>>378778271
>In addition to the recently-announced Splatoon 2 Switch bundle, Nintendo is now offering an actual empty box for preorder in Japan. The box comes adorned with Splatoon 2 art, and it can be yours for the low, low price of ¥540 (approximately $5). It's the exact same box the bundle comes packaged in, except it contains neither Splatoon 2 nor a Switch console.

>In a separate listing on Nintendo's official Japanese store, the company is also selling a boxed edition of the shooter that doesn't come with a game cartridge. Instead, you'll get a plastic box containing a paper download code.

>In a separate listing
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>>378780418
oh this outrage? this is a/v/tistic rage at its finest
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>>378735073
>b-b-but it's not Nintendo™ seal of quality
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>>378780649
why the left one?
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>>378781354
What relevance does that hold to the conversation?
One its a used condom and not some collectable
Two just because its cheap doesn't mean you have to buy it. Just look at how everyone you've talked to about it has never said that its necessary
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>>378781354
I meant the situation is fucking nothing
if someone wants to buy a cardboard box for $5 and someone else wants to sell it to them who cares?
people spend way more than that on things that just look pretty
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>>378781709
whats wrong with it
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You know, I've been defending Nintendo's phone voice chat. I thought it was a brilliant idea to be able to use your own equipment and keep wired out of the way of the more engaging controller methods. But god damn. I just figured you'd register in an app and it would work automagically.
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>>378781014
Jesus Christ, drone harder why don't you?
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>>378781721
Design flaw of some kind.
Its a relatively easy fix if you aren't lazy.
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>>378781954
where did you get your info on how the app works
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>>378781797
>What relevance does that hold to the conversation?
The fact that both are fucking useless, so why bother wasting your money on either despite how cheap they are.
The problem is that selling empty boxes is a fucking stupid idea and its baffling that Nintenbros are defending this.
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>>378735816
You mean you and ALL your friends live in the same town you grew up in? Man, you must be a bunch of fucking losers with no jobs! That, or you're an underage faggot yourself. Either way, you're a faggot.
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>>378782214
you know as well as anyone that people are going to buy them, so how is it stupid to sell them?
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>>378734810
>People will pay for such shitty online service

If this continue like that in 2022 nintendo will ask us to build our own wifi station to host a game.
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>>378779853
What's wrong with that price? I got my smartphone for 120€, a latest-gen Altice
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>>378781958
so that means you are a roleplayer
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>>378782485
>People will pay for such shitty online service
Why the surprise?
People paid for PS+ and that's only gotten worse.
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>>378782569
Talking to human beings with your voice has nothing to do with role playing. I am sorry you are that removed from reality.
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>>378746330
>>378741012
It uses a 3 prong 3.5mm jack so it has a mic input.. they just are not using it.
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>>378734810
>yfw you dodged the Switch bullet.
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>>378782641
kind of does when you want to do it through a game
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>>378735279
>実際のケーブル長は約0.5mです
The real one is 0.5 meter ya´ll
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>>378783002
"Hey, player X, can you give me some help over here?"
"Sure thing."

It's just convenient.
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>>378761163
>Iphone 7 - $649.00
>Lightning to USB Cable, 2m - $29.00
>Extension Cord - $10.00
>Belkin Audio + Charge breakout dongle - $39.95
Found your problem.
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>>378735279
>>378734810
>Wired mic adapter connects to the tablet itself
So what happens when you want to use the microphone in docked mode?
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>>378783178
left the part out where you are pretending to be a little girl
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>>378782504
I got mine for like $35
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>>378782282
Because scalpers will buy em all up and resell them and jacked up prices, and these dipshits will gladly pay top dollar for them.
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>>378783281
Wouldn't that be considerably easier /without/ voice chat?
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>>378779506
You are taking the patronizing tone of someone thinking they are the parent of collectors or they lack agency or free will.

They aren't exploited. They are dudes who eant empty boxes. They value them evidently higher than $5 so they take the deal and exchange money for a good they value more than the money. Simple as that. People want a product people pay for it. My guess is nintendo massively overproduced the boxes by accident. So they sold them. Nintendo makes some of the money back, consumers get a product they want. Except some autist on the internet gets upset that a company is selling a product they don't like. Who cares?

Also if it wasn't a handheld I'd probably buy it. I get all my home consoles used and would gladly pay $5 for a box. But don't do it with handhelds because everyone seems to chew food and smear it into it then bash it on the pavement and use their keys to clean the screen.
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Who gives a shit about voice chat for nintendo games except pedophiles?
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>>378783259
The mic is on the headset. The headset bundle includes a 2.5m extension cable. Combined with the headset cable and the mixer cable, that's about 4.2m or 13.7 feet.
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Forgive me if this has already been solved.
But it seems to me it just plugs the audio input into the phone amd draws audio output from the Switch?
So there would be 100 more elegant ways to do it?
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>>378783915
You talk about being patronizing, but goddamn there is some real pretentiousness in your post here. You talk about "free will," and the "exchange of money for a good," when we are literally talking about a company selling a bunch of fucking rubes an empty box.
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>>378784526
It receives audio from both the phone and the Switch. It's basically like using Discord on your phone while playing a game.
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>>378784472
You're joking right? Nintendo doesn't really expect me to run a 13 foot cable from my console to my smartphone, and my head in 2017 right?
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>>378784701
You're not very good with arguments are you.
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>>378784701
Well.
It's a fairly obvious concept to most but i had to try and explain it to you, since you didn't seem to get how markets work.
Nintendo could sell "I'm sorry I was born stupid" stickers at $6k a pop and I'd be fine with it.
Your notion that this says anything about nintendo, that people are being exploited or you get to decide what purchases others are allowed to make is bullshit.
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>>378784871
Hori, the makers of this headset, does.
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>>378784925
No, I'm pretty sure I usually am, but I'm simply taken aback by the level of hoops people jump through to not only justify a company selling people a fucking empty piece of cardboard, but argue why buying one themselves wouldn't be just plain dumb.
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>>378783530
again, what's stupid about it, other than the entire human race for enabling this?
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>>378784701
>we should protect stupid people
not that I disagree, but I have a feeling this won't mesh with your other opinions
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>>378785127
I'm not saying people can't buy what they want, but you can plain as day be critical not one of what they purchase, but what the people they're purchasing from are selling.

I don't know why you'd be fine with a company selling that sticker. There's no reason to defend idiotic practices from a corporation just on the merits that it will make them money.
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>>378785146
It's a free country mate. Nobody has to justify shit.
Nintendo sells thr boxes because the marginal cost of production is smaller or equal to the price people are willing to pay. Same reason any product stays on the market
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>>378785146
Using that reasoning there's no real point to anything, you might as well kill yourself right now.
Ultimately it it comes down to people wanting to buy what they want to buy whether its a simple box or a game.
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>>378785442
Well actually it's being sold only in Japan, so that's one thing t consider.

And yes, I understand basic economics just fine, thank you. You don't seem to be able to parse the idea though that people can be critical of a product even when it makes money.

Hell, /v/ tends to do that all the time.

>>378785528
Yep, and there's literally nothing wrong with saying buying, or selling, a cardboard box, is fucking stupid.
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>>378785328
>>>378785127 (You)
> but what the people they're purchasing from are selling.
This doesn't even make sense. If you are going to be critical be that of the consumer. And admit it's just being upset people like what you don't like. Their purchasing what the company is selling so they are obviously okay with it. If you don't like it just ignore it.
>I don't know why you'd be fine with a company selling that sticker.
Because i don't have to buy it.
>There's no reason to defend idiotic practices from a corporation just on the merits that it will make them money.
I don't know why you think corporations exist, what drives their decision making or what their aims are. But something tells me it is Horribly misguided. I guess it's how consolewars fags think as well.

To you retards game companies aren't profit maximizing firms but religions or cultures that have to exist solely to make you look better in shitposting. Unfortunately in reality they are the former. And that's a good thing. .
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>>378735394
it's non-optional in any team game. Fuck off and learn to use them ute button instead of demanding games not have a feature from 1995 just because you can't keep the salt out of your vagina
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>>378785926
its a useless feature that does nothing but allow for cheating in competitive games and roleplaying
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>>378785782
>Yep, and there's literally nothing wrong with saying buying, or selling, a cardboard box, is fucking stupid.
Except you're undermining the choices people make essentially saying that its wrong to do anything that doesn't adhere to your personal beliefs.
Also did it not occur to you that people buy 10 to 15 dollar storage boxes on a daily basis?
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>>378785827
It's really astonishing how some people will choose to defend ridiculous decision simply because it makes a profit.

>Because i don't have to buy it.

Yeah, but they still have the gumption to sell it.

Corporations aren't above basic criticism for their ideas, just because it can make them a bit of money.
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>>378785782
When people are critical of a product that makes money. It's often a piece of art. A game, movie, book whatever. That they think is of low quality. The game has bad gameplay or something. Or it's an electronic or something that is of low quality. Beats are actually bad sounding earphones for the price. Manh consumers on these issues are simply ill informed and might not make the best decision foe them. Or people are simply discussing the product outside the realms of business.

For example when i discuss how shitty uncharted is. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with sony selling it or anyone buying it. Infact sony should sell it. I'm saying simply as a game it's gameplay is weak characters insufferable and story Horribly derivative.

This discussion can not transpire over a cardboard box. You Aren't critiquing the materials or print quality. So to say it's the same thing is stupid. You are saying they shouldn't sell a profitable product
Not anything about it's actual quality.
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Literally what is the problem.
Who is going to be using voice chat on the bus/train station? Handheld users already have a reputation for being weird autist, noone wants to be that weird autist who is shouting at children while he shoots goo at kids in spandex on his screen.
Literally who would need an audio splitter for docked mode. If you're going to play on a TV, unless your mother is yelling at you to keep your vidya games quiet while she makes your tendies you have no reason to need your game audio in your headphones in docked mode.
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>>378786159
There's nothing wrong with undermining someone's choices. No one's forced to be nice. You can call out dumb shit all the time.

Buying, and selling, an empty box, is dumb.

>Also did it not occur to you that people buy 10 to 15 dollar storage boxes on a daily basis?

Except it's intended to be a practical storage container. Nintendo is selling it to desperate collectors.
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