What did they mean by this?

>>378724043
it's ok when nintendo does it

That it's a good thing Iwata died and Reggie isn't far behind

>>378724246
>recent revelations surrounding the Shitch

What's this about?
I guess I'm behind on Nintendo news.

>>378724343
Shitch is well on its way to being a Virtual Boy tier disaster with buggy units and literally no fucking games. The launch defects should tell you more than enough about the quality of this 'console'

>b-but it's okay when Nintendo makes you pay for hard mode

>"Gamers" buy DLC like crazy
>Dota 2, Leagfue and Heartstone make billions of dollars with fucking skins because neckbeards are stupid
>Blame Nintendo that they add DLC

Nintendo DLC ( for example Mario Kart 8 ) were extremly good compared to competition.
I paid 12 bucks and got 50% more content in Mario Kart 8

nintendo actually ruined botw speedrunning because of all the amiibo bullshit

>Nintendo was the last to fall for the DLC and paid online cancer
>People try to revise history as if their the ones to majorly blame
>About 3 threads about similar "Nintendo is cancer topics"
Really activates the almonds...

Better,

Twitchtv/hatsugi

>>378724779
>their

Fucking ESL toddler faggot get fucking killed

>>378724450
>and literally no fucking games
It's been two months

>>378724043
It means that every game that they release is a full game for the price paid. Any additional dlc is completely optional and very affordable. BotW is a perfect example of this.

>>378724794
Wtf am I watching nig-a-d

>>378724979
>Being this mad that I told the truth
It's a good thing I'm out of sorts atm, or else I would have cared about anything you just said

>>378724043
Iwata died so it was inevitable. Not like I buy any of their games anyway

>>378724567
Oh no, what ever will the literal no-life NEET autists do?

>>378725454
Yes they only went with the industry standard because Iwata died. I hope you don't believe that.

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>>378724450
Ahahahahahahah imagine being this much of desulsional salty cry baby.

There will always be issues with new hardware but, as always, these usually only affect a insignificant number of people. A video showing about 20 defective Switches against the MILLIONS which are absolutely fine.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16267938

I guess you must really desperately want to on a video game for some irrational reason. Top kek.

>>378724043
and now they are locking out 50% to a 100% of the gameplay behind paid online, meaning you cannot get the complete experience of the game without paying extra.

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I absolutely fucking love how Nintendo exists as an unfathomable enigma to the clueless kiddies of /v/.

Watching the faces of the young shitstains here contort in anger and rage as Nintendo stand resolute as an unshakeable behemoth in the video game landscape. It fills me with an endless joy.

Honestly, most of the DLC I've bothered to get from Nintendo has been okay. I mean I'm not really one to buy much DLC anyway, but I haven't been burned by it at least.

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>>378724450
>virtual boy tier disaster
AHAHAHA

>>378725653

Toads have no biological sex.
Because they are plants.

Toadette does identify as female gender.
And Toad does identify as male gender.

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>>378724246
I still don't get this image, BotW has beaten out Horizon in all regards with sales and scores and 90% of people who have played BotW don't even care about Horizon in the slightest.
It just seems like the guy who made this image is really deluded.

>>378724450
I don't think you know this but the virtual boy was discontinued in less than a year, half in Japan.

Nintendo is right, all dlc except large expansion packs are a cancer

>you will never be as assblasted as that nigga OP

feels pretty fuckign good.

He's dead anon.
That's why.

>>378726696
Horizon outsold BOTW retard, try again.

>>378725653
Read the DLC part again. They never said no DLC ever, they said they wouldn't cut pieces of the main game out to focus it into DLC. Whether or not they've already done the same thing with amiibos is arguable, but the MK8 DLC was a great deal when it released. 12 dollars for 16 new tracks, 8 new vehicles, 4 new characters, and 8 cosmetic swaps for two of the existing ones. That content is a sizable percentage of base game content at a fraction of the price.

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>>378725653

>>378727115
Check the calander, it's not march anymore. Nice try boyo.

>>378727123
How about BOTW then? Guess what fucktard, Nintendo is now selling you hard mode. Even Atlus gave Persona 5 merciless mode away gor free and they have gone balls out on paid DLC for that game. The Nintendo of old is dead.

>>378727115
Not anymore no. As all the trash game you generally get on the PS4, it had a strong week then dropped off.

Don't worry, nobody actually care about that trash

>>378727115
Just how outdated is your info? Last I checked BOTW had outsold Horizon 2:1 and was climbing

New Fire Emblem game
Base price $39.99
Expansion pass $44.99

>>378727194
>>378727208
>>378727216
>new IP managed to outsell one of Nintendo's biggest and oldest franchises in opening week

LOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLL

>>378724043

lies

>>378727313

But it didn't mongoloid-kun


I thought that autist were supposed to be good with numbers.

>>378727238
That's without Amiibo right? Need to tack on another $25+

>>378724043
I never thought DLC was a bad thing, but it's pretty funny to watch nintenbros start to waffle on the topic.

>>378727368
You also forgot to tack on rent, a TV, electricity, and a console, so that's at least another $500 bucks.

>>378724043
Idiots. That's why their company was almost run out of business.

>>378727368
Fuck I forgot about that. I don't even have the 3ds that has the reader

>>378727468
>can't deny the facts
>so attacks the formatting
;^)

>>378727520
(You)

>>378727482
Don't worry goyim, you can buy an amiibo reader for $27 on Amazon!

>>378727586
>Can't deny the conclusion
>(You)

it keeps happening. Man am i glad I'm not mentally defective.

>>378727703
Just post the source, man.

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>>378727703
(You)

>>378727804
>threads get deleted for shitposting
>repost his image in his other shitposting thread

Poor jannies gonna earn those hotpockets tonight

>>378727157
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLzJY0iPTyE

NX was already prototyping and announced nearly a year before this thing debuted.

Nobody gives a fuck because they're targeting different markets. Not even the Aikun guy. HE FUCKING WELCOMES IT BECAUSE HE KNOWS.

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>Kind of interested in Stellaris
>but I know damn well it'll feel incomplete incomplete and stay that way for 3-4 more major DLC
I want a different timeline.

>>378727115
Imagine being this wrong. Oh dear.

>>378728283
we did warn his kind

the whole western shit selling huge swath of lifetime numbers in the first week is nothing new, yet they fell for it anyway

>>378727313
>PS4 exclusive has strong opening week because sonyfriends are thirsty
>immediately dies shortly after
How high was the attachement rate for Bloodborne again?

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>>378725105

>BOTW is a complete and/or full game
>runs at 30 FPS and doesn't even have a hard mode

No thank you. I wouldn't call that cinematic experience a good game.

>>378728495
>cinematic experience
ACfag what's your fucking problem?

>>378728383
It has nothing to do with Western games, every PS4 release of yet another soon-to-be-abandoned IP is like that.

DLC is a cancer in the industry, and if you buy even 1 bit, you're part of the problem.

>>378724090
Times change. If everyone else is making mad hunnids with dlc it's stupid for one company not to. Dlc is shitty thing but people have accepted it. Companys purpose is to make money not to be the nice guy

>>378727157
Bwahahahahaha you would love to believe that wouldn't you?

Oh my, Nintendo really rustles the jimmies of the salty masses on here, don't they? I love it. Keep crying. Your tears sustain me.

>>378728495
>cinematic experience

Top kek. Wut?

>>378728712
DLC is a good way for developers to generate revenue streams from old games, which then justifies long term support.

Shitty cashgrab DLC is bad, DLC when done right is good.

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>>378728564

My problem is when a huge company, as old as Nintendo, doesn't understand the fundamentals or priorities of a video game, opting for graphics and voice acting instead of stable performance or content.

Was Iwata assassinated by greedy Nintendo shareholders?

>>378724567
So nintendo should limit the playability so that few lifeless nerds could speedrun? Ok...

>>378724043
Iwata underestimated how Nintendo fans can accept anything, like paying for hard mode.

>>378724043
There is nothing wrong with DLC in and of itself, the usual suspects just perverted it by nickle and diming consumers. DLC is a perfectly fine concept that Nintendo seems to executing well in their major titles. I didn't feel skimped on content in vanilla MK8 or BotW so I'm perfectly happy to purchase additional content. I was particularly impressed with Mario Kart 8's DLC, I feel like I got my money's worth.

>>378728796
DLC done right is called expansion packs, anon.

>>378724450
As much as I don't want to defend the Switch, virtually all 'defects' are a result of retards not taking care of their shit. The only exception to this are the Joycon connection issues, with which Nintendo have offered free replacement Joycons, anyway.

>>378728786

Like I said, no game should ever run at 30 FPS, and the only games that do are made by incompetent developers who mask it by saying "it was an artistic choice".

>>378728832
> Putting a difficulty mode behind DLC is executing DLC well.

>>378728798
So you just love shitposting games you haven't played? Good to know
Also stop frogposting you fucking redditor.

>>378728798
>Nintendo, doesn't understand the fundamentals or priorities of a video game

You are fucking beyond deluded. You just exposed yourself as a salty, assblasted child with that silly statement.

>>378728845
Indeed. It's not even a new thing, /v/ just likes to bitch about literally anything, while talking about the "good old days."

>>378728796
>DLC is a good way for developers to generate revenue streams from old games

DLC is a good way to jew the consumer as much as possible.

Someone post the Shitch barneyfag picture.

Also

https://boards.4tan.org/v/search/image/JuyuBs20_R7a-yUvr6WzxQ/

>237 results found. + even more with his renamed file

>>378728928
>>378728935

>So you just love shitposting games you haven't played?
So I'm wrong you say? Please, do show me where Zelda runs at a crisp 60 FPS and DOESN'T lock important features behind a DLC paywall, like oh say, a hard mode.

>>378728867
>Nintendo are an incompetent developer

Just stop embarrassing yourself. You're upset because Nintendo made a good game. How immature can you get?

>>378729051
>hurr I haven't played it but here are more shitposts about the game
Do you have any self awareness, dumb frogposter?

>>378727157
You know wii u was out by then and the original idea for wii u was the one switch ended up being?

>>378729071
>>378729159

You know, you keep saying Zelda is good, but I don't see any facts supporting it. I don't see it running at 60 FPS, I see no free DLC that I'm entitled to because I bought the game at full price already, I see not a single bit of support. Woe be onto the poor WiiU owners who had gamepad functionality removed just so the Switch version would be better. Some company.

>>378729024
That's what businesses do, anon

>>378729270
>if I keep making shit up maybe someday after years of shitposting a single human being might admit that Zelda is not as good as he thought it was before
Keep trying kid, I'll keep playing the game of the decade.
Last (you) for (you)

>>378729309
And that's why business being in the video game industry is what ruined it to begin with.

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>>378729362

>if I keep making shit up
>fails to mention a single thing that was supposedly "made up"

>>378729482
>you need to point exactly what of my post filled with lies was a lie
What did she mean by this?

>>378729270
>you keep saying Zelda is good, but I don't see any facts supporting it.

You can't have FACTs supporting an elusive quality based on taste and education you fucking dunce, you can only have OPINION.

And the OPINION on BotW is that it's one of the best games ever made. It received more perfect scores than any other game ever released. That is now a historical FACT. So cry some more.

>>378729270
Why would you be entitled to free stuff?

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>>378729535

>it's made up, but I'm not gonna say what exactly, le spoonfeeding

What did he mean by this?

>>378729602

>It received more perfect scores than any other game ever released

Oh, okay. So we're gonna listen to critics now, despite them being unreliable, corrupt sellouts for the latter half of 30 years. Gotcha.

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>>378729602
It also sold less than horizon. That's a historical fact.

>>378729837
No it didn't. Oh dear. How's it feel being wrong?

Not that sales have any kind of bearing over QUALITY you silly child.

>>378724043
>People from a company said something 10 years ago
>The company is now bound to follow these statements for eternity
Not how business works, kiddo. Companies need to adapt to what their market wants, and the market has clearly shown that people want DLC for their games. Nintendo would be stupid to ignore that.

>>378729837
McDonalds also sold more than some high quality food

>>378728859
this is true. I can understand scratching screens from the dock is from the dock being a shitty shit but even then people should take precautions. The crashing and the glitching of the systems is most certainly due to people blocking the vent on the back. When the system overheats it usually gives white screen and can sometimes get fucky and make noise.

>>378730040
>Horizon 2.7 m
>Botw 2 m

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>>378729835
>using this desperate goalpost movement when trying to reconcile the fact that Zelda is one of the best games ever made
Must suck being this desperate for validation after awaiting for greatness for almost two years with no visible results.

>>378730079
Just means more people love mcdonalds. Anon can't bring up something like the subjective scores of some journalists and then discredit objective facts of amount of sales.

>>378724450
X
Fucking
D

I know this is probably supposed to be ironic shitposting, but you really nailed the whole "completely anally devastated PCfag" thing

>>378729051
Zelda is running at 30FPS interpolative, which is as smooth as 45FPS progressive.

to be fair, hard mode in the dlc is the worst hard mode ever for a zelda game. The game already is at hard mode, as it's easy to die and they amp up the enemies after you're done a certain dungeon.

>>378730108
These figures are made up, are you this desperate?

>>378729835
TLOU is a legit good game. See? I'm not deluded and salty like you, I like games on different systems because I'm not an immature simpleton.

>>378730197
I'm only getting my source from a sales site. Where are you getting yours?

>>378730253
>sales site
What sales site? What are the dates?
>inb4 april vgcharts lol

>>378730139

>Zelda is one of the best games ever made
You're unironically using reviewers from gamespot and IGN as the basis for this assumption.

>>378730178

>Zelda is running at 30FPS interpolative, which is as smooth as 45FPS progressive.
But none of those are 60 FPS. So it's like watching a movie, it's not worth it.

>The game already is at hard mode,
I'm gonna stop you right there. A game liked by even the biggest casuals in the industry is by definition not hard, no matter how much you may disagree.

>>378729837
botw sold over 3 mil nigga. lets not also forget all the shits trying to emulate that game too. and those who, like me, just downloaded it free on wii u.

>>378729270
Do...
Have you ever actually seen BotW?

Do you know what video games are?

>>378730368

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>>378730224

>TLOU is a legit good game.

Now this is some classy trolling.

>>378730368
a movie is at 24fps. 45 fps is better than 30 fps. Specially for a game of that scale on a handheld. I love my games in 60fps, but I'm not entirely too sure if I would enjoy Zelda in 60fps to be completely honest. I've tried Twilight Princess in 60fps as well as skyward sword, it was a bit weird.

>>378727313
And now it's dead and thennumbers are never going up while BotW won't stop selling lmao.

>>378730398
diff anon here. Horizon actually sold 10 million. vgchartz only counts physical sales, but digital sales included brings this number up considerably. Nintendo's switch botw sales cant exceed 3 million on the basis of thats how little consoles are out in the wild. The wii u sales would be the kicker, but that never goes above 500K. Nintendo games never sell as much as Sony or M$ titles based on userbase alone.

>>378730368
I'm not saying it is hard, I'm just saying they already made this game harder than other zelda games. I've seen casuals play this game, they can't even fucking follow the yellow marker you get on the plataeu that leads you to the tower. Being open world and all and free to go anywhere after the plataeu... most people will find that difficult. But the difficulty I'm talking about is mostly that you face strong enemies right off the start and they even become stronger the more main quests you complete. Not by much, but still something. Either way, the dlc hard mode was not needed if it was gonna be this shit

>>378730604
You live in a sad delusional world.

>>378730368
>hurr durr gamespot is not valid despite the fact that I paraded around their 8.8 like a fucking retard
You're so desperate to have your opinion of the game being bad validated, guess what, it's not, it's one of the best.

>>378730667
>see enemy
>ignore it cause it's not obstructing anything

Anyone who makes the game harder for themselves are idiots to begin with.

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>>378730480

>45 fps is better than 30 fps.
But it's not better than 60 FPS. That's the entire point.

>>378730703

>hurr durr gamespot is not valid despite the fact that I paraded around their 8.8 like a fucking retard

>>378730604
but botw wii u sold over 900k, according to VGchartz (which then means physical copies only as you say). Horizon is an okay good game. but once you compare it to zelda in terms of mechanics and the level of detail of the world, it kinda just fades imo.

>>378730690
I'm a business analyst for a different industry so I do this shit all the time but sure think what you want

>>378730750
>he's too new for 8.8
>he still thinks his opinion is worth jack shit

>>378730750
>That's the entire point.
not sure if you're the same anon but you complained that it was 30fps. You did mention 60fps too, but I chose to prove that it's not 30 at least.

>>378730667

>But the difficulty I'm talking about is mostly that you face strong enemies right off the start and they even become stronger the more main quests you complete.
Answer me this: what's the penalty for dying?

>>378730768
The level of detail in Horizon is higher than Botw simply on technical power alone. Botw was ruined by the low power hardware of the Switch and the Wii U. They could barely keep a certain amount of AI active within a certain distance at once, which led to the design decision of an empty open world and low resolution textures. Horizon did exactly what it set out to do, while Zelda forgot to include a world in their open world game. The one game on the Switch more open world than Botw is ironically Minecraft.

>>378730812

>too new for 8.8
>you paraded 8.8 around

Pick one.

>>378729835
TLOU has a good story, great acting and that's it. The gameplay is an absolute chore. I had to force myself to trudge through it just to continue the story. Luckily for me, towards the end of the game, I was graced with a bug which made enemies unable to see through this one doorway, so I was able to shoot them all in the head and move on to the end. There's no way I'm getting TLOU2, we all know it's going to be the exact same shit.

>>378730917
Do you get off on saying stupid shit?
>>378730963
So you either did and you're a hypocrite, or you didn't, and you're a newfag, pick.

>>378730885
>Answer me this: what is game design

you're such a fucking incompetent moron

>>378724043
WHAT IS FIRE EMBLEM FATES
WHAT IS POKEMON
WHAT IS SMASHBROS 4

>>378731059

OR, perhaps I've been here for a decade and chose not to take part in some stupid controversy regarding game journos because at no point would I ever parade their opinions around as if they had even the slightest bit of weight?

>>378731068

>what is game design
Game design is putting in a mechanic like dying, but not having a single consequence come of it, thus making it more efficient to just throw yourself at any given enemy without tact or skill, thus making death pointless? The weapon durability system has the same exact flaw.

>dude, my weapon broke, should I improvise and figure out an alternate strategy, thus making me think on my toes? Oh wait, there's 50 copies of my weapon lying around for me, nevermind

>>378730917
>The level of detail in Horizon is higher than Botw simply on technical power alone.

This delusion.

>Muh grafiks!

BotW blows Horizon utterly out of the water. There'a plenty of comparison videos showing just how shallow Horizon is compared to how rich the world of BotW is.

https://youtu.be/qEGWtyJAkO0

'Higer details' my ass.

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>>378731252
>how rich the world of Botw is

Before you can have a rich world, you have to have stuff to make it a world first. And also non shit graphics.

>>378731349
>muh graffix
Do Horizon kids do anything in that game other than look at textures?

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>>378731252

>open video
>both """"games"""" run at an abysmal 30 FPS
>close the video before vomiting

How people not only deal with this, but actively defend it, will forever be a mystery.

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>>378731226
>I've been here for a decade

>>378731454
Don't you have a Bloodborne LP to watch John?

>>378731226
You know nothing about game design, that much is obvious. I can't even muster the enthusiasm to school you on how fucking stupid you are. The problem with you is you don't want to hear. You just want to hate the game because everyone else loves it. Must really hurt knowing successful Nintendo is and how well received their software is. I love seeing the rage and pain from kiddies like you. Keep crying. Won't change a thing.

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>>378728867
>m-muh 30 fps
nobody but you cares

>>378731454
Current gamers are so desperate for games they'll praise anything like hanging your tongue out in the desert waiting for water.

>>378731349
Top was just trailer we already know what the game was gonna look like before it released.

>>378731621
>it's okay for Nintendo to do it

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>>378731464
>>378731498
>>378731551

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>>378731349
How about posting an ACTUAL screenshot?

Also, I notice you can't refute that video. Haha.

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>>378731809
>I've been here for a decade

>>378731870
I did post an actual screenshot. I can go into game right now and show that same exact spot again.

>>378731184
>I posted it again everyone!
https://boards.4tan.org/v/search/image/HxYBFHd_MDCwG1WfkAbVoA/

>>378731508

>I can't even muster the enthusiasm to school you on how fucking stupid you are.
Let me translate that for you:

>I can't argue against your point, so I'll shift the goalpost and use a strawman insult

>>378732023
>gets called out and exposed as an obsessive shitposter with a personal vendetta
>le nintendo babies got le triggered xDD

>>378731508

Forgot to say this in my other post.

>You just want to hate the game because everyone else loves it. Must really hurt knowing successful Nintendo is and how well received their software is

Again you keep hinging this game's success and quality solely on its popularity. AS if /v/'s opinion meant anything, when /v/ has also heralded games like FNAf, Undertale, No Man's Sky, Mighty Number 9, and many other such blunders that also sold millions and duped many suckers.

>>378732013
>your point
>dying is bad game design because I say so
>a point
>refute my idiotic opinion supported with faulty logic or you're moving le goalposts :D
Kill yourself

>>378732068
pls return to leddit. There you can at least have the convenience of a non anoymous forum to whine and complain on about someone making fun of your favorite babies r us company.

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>>378731349
i googled plateau. got this. what are you trying to say?

>>378732224
I didn't think the average IQ of this board could drop any lower until your post.

>>378732202
>leddit
>thinks that reddit has a wordfilter
Go back to reddit faggot

>>378732306
Your ignorance is delicious

>>378732358
>ignorance
>says the kid that tries to bypass a non existent wordfilter
Back to reddit with you

>>378731349
By "rich" you mean filled with meaningless filler like the useless shrines and korok seeds?

>>378732136

>dying is bad game design because there's absolutely no penalty to it that makes you NOT want to die

Fixed that for you.

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>>378732267
>>378732347
all these images look like shit at their actual resolutions. Also pastel colors is the worse palette to ever use. Makes the source engine look like perfection. And can someone tell me why a N64 game has better graphics than a Switch AAA game?

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>>378732481
shitposting so hard, wew lad

Don't give (you)s to 378732481, what an obnoxious shitposter

>>378732267
The images may trick you to think that the game looks good until you're stuttering at 20 to 10 frames per second.

>>378728867
idk man, playing twilight princess in 30fps feels better than playing it in 60fps. I tried botw in 60fps compared to the 30fps interpolative, and it really breaks the sensation the game set forth

>>378732583
But that doesn't happen at all, is this how you cope with not being able to play the game of the decade?

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>>378732583
>shitposting even harder

>>378732648
Zora's Domain there looks better than everything else this gen. And the sand statues give a great sense of scale.

>>378732645
>But that doesn't happen at all
I know you play only sub 60 fps games, but even a Nintendo cuck would be able to notice all the choppy framerate that happens in this game.

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>>378732621

>muh feelings transcend fact

>>378732756
how are you enjoying bloodborne then?

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>>378732756
But that's falsehood, why lie anon? are you so salty about BotW? you can just buy a Switch you know, and enjoy it with the rest of us, or you can keep shitposting and telling yourself you're not missing out on anything, your choice.

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>>378732756
NEVER

EVER

PCFAG

>>378732831

I'll tell you something, no matter how good BOTW was, it will never be my personal GOTY. MY personal best game of this year completely murdered every other game without even trying.

Runs at 60 FPS, has 4 difficulty modes, is hated by game journos for being too "video gamey", doesn't have alot of story which is good because story in a video game is cancerous, doesn't have disgusting sex fanservice or waifus so it keeps the weebs away, and best of all, it's a good video game.

Zelda can never compare.

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>>378732826
>playing any souls game after Dark Souls 1

>>378732831
>having chopping frame rate and sub 20 fps is false despite everything to the contrary

Living in your own world must be a state of ignorant bliss to you

>>378732725
Where's that long wood bridge at?

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>>378732885

>>378732909
Sounds like a good game, what's its name?
>>378732913
>still making shit up after being called out
Do you get off on saying lies anon?

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>>378732982

>Sounds like a good game, what's its name?

>>378732913
>pcfags still salty over bloodborne
NEVER EVER

>>378733023
Thanks for the rec, anon, I'll look it up.

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>>378732950
Tingle island

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>>378732961

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>>378732913
>>playing any souls game after Dark Souls 1

The salt, it never stops

>>378733041
despite your projecting, botw is still a bad game

The guy posting screenshots is making me want to buy a switch
How does it look in movement?

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>>378733076

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>>378733108
>BotW
>a bad game

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>>378733143
>Switch compresses screenshots
>jpg
>720p even though the game is 900p-1080p
>game has great animations and grass everywhere that always looks better in motion

A lot better, obviously.

>>378733108
>projecting
Nigga its right there in your post, PCfag

HAHAHAHAA

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>>378733149

>>378733257
Holy fuck it's beautiful

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>>378733143
also most of the framedrops are gone after the patches

>>378733257
>that Cemu emulation at 60 fps

Too bad it breaks the game's logic

>>378733334
Thanks man, your pics always makes my dick hard

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>>378733334

>>378733143
Wait for E3 nigga. Framerate is stable 90% of the time now after the patch

>>378732885
Why is everything so empty?

>>378724043
It means they don't create a situation where you can't get the full story or the best ending via paid DLC. For an example from recent memory, perhaps Mass Effect 3. Basically, the game will always be a minimum level of quality, cohesion, and most of all content that is great enough to be called a full and complete game.

Notice that this leaves enough of a loophole that they can plan to make additional content to make it a "full game, plus extra" if you so choose, though the idea is that it will never reach the point that the extra that is on offer is REQUIRED to essentially "beat" the game. Reggie's words make note of this even: "...and then we have opportunities to provide more on top of that."

Iwata's words also speak to a certain quality and expectation of DLC, too. "required to make EXCESSIVE payments". Example being certain sports games and how you can pay essentially multiple times the original game's price for new roster members. Meanwhile with Nintendo, Mario Kart 8's original DLC was a third of the price for essentially 50% more content. Sm4sh wasn't as generous admittedly but it also wasn't necessary to get any of them, never mind every single one.

A lot of the people ended up taking context out of these words to mean "we don't do DLC period" but actually paying attention makes it obviously that would not have been the case.

>Cemufaggots have the game in 4K with little jaggies
>they also can't take screenshots for shit
REEEEEEEEEE

>>378733145
>can see Deku Tree from there
>those beautiful cherry blossoms

>>378733438
Because you are blind.

>>378733438
get your eyes checked nigga

>>378733438
He's taking pics of landscapes, not every piece of food or material that is around.

>>378733423
this guy's lying. patch didn't fix shit.

>>378733143
it's all good imo. Handheld looks gorgeous and you can adjust tv saturation/exposure/contrast to make it look better too. Everything is nice. Framerate issues are basically nonexistant now.

>>378726457
>Plants
Fungus, but close enough.

>>378733516
This, why are pcfaggots so bad at aesthetic screens? Dude use the power, give us the goods

>>378733631
It did on switch. Check DF's video

>>378733438
Welcome to breath of the wild, the game that forgot to add stuff to actually find. Otherwise all those pics would have actual dungeons that you found in the world instead of galking at a sunset or waterscape. it's literally all you do in this game.

>>378733631
But it did, I have played over 200 hours and only got one massive framedrop

>>378732465
Except, y'know, the obvious penalty of the monster's health recovering, and wasting time on doing something that isn't the rest of the game.

>>378733702
Really makes u think...

>>378733709
>only got one massive framedrop
confirmation bias. You suffered more than that, but because you're so cucked, you forgave them anyway. Even that "one" alone disproves your post entirely

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>>378724043
>lies

>>378733702
>if I keep posting the same bullshit it will become true one day!
Nope, no amount of shitposting will do that, sorry to break it to you but BotW is considered a masterpiece already and you will never ever be able to change that no matter how much you shitpost.

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>>378733516
Yeah, unfortunately the only guy who knows how to make good staged screenshots is a console fag.

Cemu fags always make random as fuck screens.

>>378733778
>reading comprehension

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>>378725105
>BotW is a perfect example of this.
>Hard mode is locked behind a pay wall

>>378733764
But I didn't, what the fuck kind of logic is this one? I know if I did or not, you don't, what kind of autism motivates a human being to pretend to know better about other people's experiences?

>>378733826
This. Almost makes me want to install cemu and take some great screens

>Literally ever going past 13 hearts

Just put the rest in stamina and boil some radishes, senpai.

>>378733854
Being unable to say anything wrong about your $300 game.

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>>378733845
>i keep shitposting with the same thing :^)
Maybe if you do this for the next seven years BotW will magically become a bad game.

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>>378733969
dude I got the switch for free as a gift

Stop strawmanning bro

>>378733725

>Except, y'know, the obvious penalty of the monster's health recovering
Yes, and? Is that it? You don't lose items, you don't have to go back to a previous save, you barely have to walk back to where you died? What the hell kind of """game""" is this?

>>378734049
So you're defending your mom's purchase

>>378733969
But anyone can, that guy even said he had a single massive framedrop, nobody is saying there's nothing wrong with the game, that anon was saying that he had had over 200 hours of gameplay without frame drops, how the fuck can you pretend to know better about that than him, the person playing the game and owning the console?

>>378734058
Sorry anon, but you do not define what a game is. There are games that you don't ever die, and they are games anyway

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that's the last I have

>>378734137
Thank you anon, they're great screenshots.

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>>378734042

>>378734119

>Sorry anon, but you do not define what a game is
Actually, I do, because I know more about game design than Nintendo does.

>>378734072
Nah, I have friends, unlike you. My mom died a few years back

>>378733596
The landscape looks good tho, but there's nothing. No monsters, animals or people.

>>378734172
no, you clearly don't, considering your dumb nitpicks and how you're exaggerating them as game breaking flaws
>b-b-b-b-but if I die I don't have to restart the entire fucking game where is my penalty?

>>378734172
Sure you do LOL

>>378734175
Inside the landscape, for example the zora pics, there are NPCs

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>>378733986
No one is accusing it of being a bad game. They are accusing it of being incomplete by having difficulty options locked behind a paywall.

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>>378734245

>>378734175
Usually you kill all hostile mobs before you position a pic, or they can mess it up

Friendly mobs in BOTW tend to run away from you

>>378734263
An extra difficulty option that wasn't in the base game is not something you're entitled to, besides you faggots unironically paid money for RDR hard mode so it's literally wrong when Nintendo does it.

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>>378734219

>no, you clearly don't, considering your dumb nitpicks
Dumb nitpicks? For goodness sake, even Minecraft did this better by having you instantly lose all of your items upon dying, making them permanently unrecoverable if you died in lava especially. It also sold 150 million units worldwide, so by your logic it's an objectively better game.

>>378734263
>incomplete
Ehhh I will say they didn't plan for the hard mode in the first place. It wasn't found in the game files at all, and in those files you can find some removed or tested items like boomerang bombs or something

I guess they needed stuff for the DLC so they just wanted to add a lazy one in?

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>>378734370
>I want to lose my entire inventory when I die, where's the challenge? why don't I restart the entire game when I die? why don't they kill my horse and rape my mom? this is clearly a massive flaw of the game and not some dumb nitpick I keep repeating as if it was a game breaking flaw.

>>378734331
Fuck you're right.
What else aren't we entitled to?

Volume settings?
Brightness settings?
Voice and language options?
Control settings?

If you take them out of the base game, then they aren't part of the base game! It's genius!

>>378734370
Wait a moment his logic is not sells=better game

And also what you said makes no sense. Rogue-like elements does not make a game automatically better

>>378733702
>Welcome to breath of the wild, the game that forgot to add stuff to actually find.

Top kek. You can always spot in-denial shitposters. They come up with the most pathetic, irrelevant and deluded 'faults' or they just make up lies to try and find someway of convincing themselves that the game isn't good. It's hilarious.

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>>378734438
>hurr durr if I keep exaggerating and taking my nitpicks to an extreme it looks like NINTENDO PERSONALLY OFFENDED ME
Why do you do this? Do you think you're making anyone enjoy the game any less?

>>378734450
>being so assblasted that he has to go back several posts just to finally reply to a post triggering him

the pot calling the kettle, faggot

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>>378734435
>>378734448

>asking for a game to NOT coddle you is a "dumb nitpick"

It's no wonder game journalists loved this game so much. They love never being challenged.

>>378734534
There's plenty of areas in BotW inspired by real world locations.

>>378734137
Nice screenshots this one >>378734005 with dragon and lightning was perfect.

>>378734438
funny enough, the game had to patch in 2 of those because players were like wtf nintendo, why you leave out the most basic options

>>378734546
Uhhh you should learn what 'pot calling the kettle' means, unless i missed something?

>>378734551
>why doesn't the game insult me when I die as well? Why doesn't the Switch controller have needles that come out of sockets whenever I'm hit I mean where's the challenge? Where are the testicle pliers that conduct electricity?

>>378734537
Nobody was talking about the game's enjoyability. Why do you keep going back to that?
That's not what's at issue here.

The games' great. The game is fucking amazing. The game is the best game created by mankind. Yet is still has basic gameplay options behind a paywall.
I don't even see how this is debatable. All you can say is "I don't mind paying for that!"
Denying it as the case is turning your back on reality.

Nintendo threads are the worst. For them or against them, it always draws out the most insufferable faggots.

>>378734546
>assblasted

I think you might be confused kiddo. I'm not assblasted about anything. I love how Nintendo makes people like you foam at the mouth with salty rage. It's endlessly heartwarming to me.

>>378734642
>basic gameplay options
>an entirely new gameplay mode with brand new enemies and flying platforms is something completely basic

>>378734551
Rogue like elements are a shitty way to implement challenge tho. Also explain how binding of issac was really well received among game journalists

>>378734725
What new enemies?

>>378734717
Shut up and pick a side faggot

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>>378734725
>new game mode

What game mode?

The DLC is adding literally nothing we havent already seen. Anyone who thinks placing enemies on top of flying rafts as new experience just goes to show how much shit people are willing to eat.

>>378734783
Hard mode has an entire tier of enemies above Silver.
>inb4 hurr durr reskins do I fit in yet xD

>>378724567
>because of all the amiibo bullshit
I really don't see how. The people who think amiibos should be viable for speedrunning are just being retarded.

Amiibos are basically quick cheats. They're not any different from the EXP/Money/Item DLC from other games. And those were never, ever acceptable in the speedrunning community. So I have absolutely no clue whatsoever why there has even been a debate at all over amiibos.

>>378734642
You're talking about a tiny part of the season pass. The real meat of the season pass hasn't even been announced yet. Everything they've confirmed so far is just enjoyable fluff but you're trying to pretend people are paying solely for THAT. Seems like you just desperately want to find something to complain about.

>>378734845
>Hard mode has an entire tier of enemies above Silver.
Tier of enemies doesnt mean new enemies.

>>378734637
>>378734776

You keep trying to paint these things as bad, when a good challenge would be not only welcome, but an invigorating change of pace that adds weight to any of your actions.

This is why shmups and roguelikes are the kings of this kind of thing. When you can save, the game absolutely does not let you have any mercy, and will smash your teeth in at any opportunity. If it doesn't let you save, it makes sure that you understand the weight of your actions. It feels more satisfying when you win because the risk of loss is always there.

>Also explain how binding of issac was really well received among game journalists
I thought it was okay, but you could tell it received ALOT of marketing, and as a result the developer flubbed on the late game DLC. He let the popularity go to his head, so we got that dump heap Delirium. So yeah, pretty much my point exactly: the popularity degraded the game's replayability and lasting quality.

>>378734845
You already know why you're wrong and yet you believe you're talking truthfully anyway.
Yeah you fit right in, don't worry.

>>378734889
>defending a season pass to begin with
>even when defending it, he still has to say "w-well, you won't really get your money's worth until the end of the season pass's period!

Talk about being a big shiteater

>>378734894
I agree, a challenge is good, but not all games should be challenging. Games can be relaxing too.

I agree with the rest as well. Delirium was shitttt

>>378734894
>I mean why doesn't it send an email with naked pictures of me to my boss if I get hit? I mean where's the challenge? Why doesn't it gouge my eyes out? It's too easy, it's simply too easy, I wish more of my bones were broken.

>>378724043
Nintendo fans have nothing to justify, since all other fanbases and companies make those kind of contraddictions too.

>>378734941
Why am I wrong? do thunder lizalfos have the same moveset as fire lizalfos? Do silver Lynels have the same moveset as fire lynels? but who am I kidding, you have never ever touched the fucking game, and it shows.

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>>378734534

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>>378735042
Using the argument "well other companies do it too" is a poor argument and is in itself a contradiction

>>378734551
I suck at fightans but I do enjoy playing.

>>378734954

>I agree, a challenge is good, but not all games should be challenging. Games can be relaxing too.
I don't think I can agree with that. when a game is "relaxing" it becomes the equivalent of a movie. You no longer care about skill or tact in your actions, because the game won't punish you. At that point you could just sit back and watch a youtube video. This is the same mindset that created Gone Home.

>Couldn't have enemies, too videogamey. Can't have puzzles either, too problematic. Can't have any semblance of being an interactive video product, I wouldn't score points with my friends on tumblr!

When you're not pushing the limits of what you're asking from the player, then you've stopped progressing and you've become stagnant.

>>378735235
>I mean how the fuck is it even POSSIBLE that the game won't cut inbetween my fingers with paper if I get hit? how is this a game and not a movie? why isn't the game connected to an iron maiden that closes down an inch if I get hit? how is this POSSIBLE? how is this a GAME?

>>378735337
making extreme comparisons is the equivalent of shooting yourself in the dick and calling yourself a woman for no longer having one

>>378735235
Jesus anon when I mean relaxing I don't mean a literal walking sim. This is false equivilance to the max. Games will always offer more interactivity than fucking videos. Not all games should cater to you. What about people who like the interactivity games offer but don't want to fight tooth and nail to even experience more of it?

Also gone home is a walking sim, which is also a game, like it or not. Puzzle games like the witness are also games, like it or not

>>378733656
>that purple haired, obese, negress great fairy
D R O P P E D
R
O
P
P
E
D

Remember when Nintendo was actually kind of rejecting tge bullshit done by other companies by shoving in little to no DLC, actually providing the full experience on day one, and not making you pay a single shekel for internet capabilities?

...But no, if Nintendo's doing this then it's aaaallll goooood, and we'll defend their relatively shitty practices because they're my favorite souless corporation.

>>378735442
>hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
kill yourself please.

>>378735235
What does the greentext line even have to do with the argument anyway? Is this a slippery slope fallacy? Just because death doesn't set you back to the very start doesn't mean the game cannot have enemies and puzzles.

>>378731349
>comparing the rich land of south east hyrule to the devastated ruins of central hyrule
Yeah no shit that you won't find any high grass in central Hyrule. In many places central Hyrule doesn't even have short grass. Meanwhile the south east Hyrule was relatively untouched by the calamity and it reflects on the wilderness.

Though I doubt you've even played the game.

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>>378735458
I remember. But nothing remains sacred forever.

>>378735458
Remember when people voted with their wallet instead of whining nonstop and false flagging in this shithole?
Yeah me neither

>>378735458
No, never? Nintendo has always done DLC and expansion packs, even in the N64 days

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>>378735517
>not the first post from this IP

He's still mad

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>>378735583
>gets proven wrong
>u r so le mad xDD i am le ebin master trole xDD
Seriously?

>>378735539
Voting with your wallet doesnt work in the age of easy online payments and lack of financial discipline. Which is further a cause of the education system.

>>378735481
>he cant make a joke
Also
>>>/r/eddit
Who fucking says hur dur jesus christ

>>378735645
>voting with your wallet doesn't work
Fucking astroturfing shill, kill yourself, stop pretending to be a human being you disgusting appendix of a corporation, you fucking piece of nothing

>>378735583
>>not the first post from this IP
What? It was though. I promise.
That said even if it wasn't it should have no effect on my point.

>>378735419

>Not all games should cater to you.
And this is what difficulty modes were made for, something that didn't need to be behind a paywall. But Nintendo decided to mess with that paradigm because they have dollar signs in their eyes.

>What about people who like the interactivity games offer but don't want to fight tooth and nail to even experience more of it?
Then they're welcome to return to Call of Duty where they can babysit kids who camp with snipers all day.

>>378735503

>Just because death doesn't set you back to the very start doesn't mean the game cannot have enemies and puzzles.
If death is nothing more than a slight slap on the wrist, then there's no point to it. You might as well not die period. There has to be consequences to your actions, or you might as well just play Minecraft on creative mode to remove all the problematic videogamey elements like fighting for survival or dealing with environmental hazards.

>>378735717
>I mean how is it POSSIBLE that Nintendo doesn't kidnap my family and shoot me in the stomach if I get touched by an enemy? This game is shit, this is such a terrible flaw and not an idiotic nitpick at all guys where is my Zelda-tier difficulty that all Zelda games are famous for?

>>378733656
Why do some of those models look so great? Literally like an anime

>>378735717
Then good, we agree those casual games are games and have a right to exist. We're done here

>>378735707
stfu. I was referring to the fact that no matter how much I do not pay for shit, there's thousands of others who will freely do so. Which is why we have Botw being hailed as a good zelda game despite removing everything that made zelda a zelda game.

So yes, my wallet can still hold its money and people will still buy all this shit cause they're sheep, just like some of the people in this thread

>>378735943
>ootbabies still mad they didn't get inferior OOT clone no 9
Kek

>>378736007
An Oot clone would be welcomed in this day and age of a decade of shitty zelda games.

>>378735860

They have a right to exist, they just can't be called good by anyone with even a tiny bit of good taste. Objectively there is no reason to play a game if challenge isn't what you seek.

>>378736119
>objectively speaking this dumb nitpick I did is a massive flaw and people have to like what I like or they have bad taste
I miss when shitposters tried.

>>378736076
Anon those "shitty zelda games" are all OOT clones lol