Guilty Gear Xrd

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>>378720443

>>378720443
She's fine
Sin on the other hand

>make a character in guilty gear
>they can mash one button and take out 15% of HP on any character in the game

yeah, she's solely for the dumb nu-gg players xrd has.

How about you learn to play?

>>378720443
>Elphelt
>not Sin

Nah.

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>>378720443
Elphelt is honestly too honest now. She doesn't have the juice to win an event now.

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>tfw playing chipp

>>378721802
HAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAI

>tfw no one plays Bedman

>>378720443
Nope

Here's buffs

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>tfw got buffed

>>378724854
No point. Thread is more dead than Elphelt's marriage prospects.

>>378725061
I want to get married to Elphelt.

I bought the game and I kinda like Jam. What's a good easy bnb to start off with?

>>378725563
5K->c.S->2H->2D->22S

>>378725563
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvOEj4nGo4A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN7V3t3El0k

some starters to try

>>378725686
>>378725789
Thanks.

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>Baiken is finally released
>She's utter dogshit

So much for that

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>>378726279
See my Baiken online RIGHT NOW kid

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>>378726279
Huh? Shes fine.

Just dont get overzealous with Azami and figure out her neutral and youll be fine.

>>378726279
No. People just don't understand that she has to be played defensively and isn't rush down 50/50 into super crazy 50% damage.

>>378726584
Not having rushdown 50/50 into super crazy 50% damage sounds like a really good way to be a bad character in Xrd

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I want to nerf all over her cute little tits.

>>378726645
Not in this case since she has more defensive options than other characters.

>>378723119
I do, anon. He needs more love.

>>378726880
How do you guys even play Bedman? He is too weird.

>>378726889
>tfw they removed her meme super
Why bother

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I don't play GG but ram is the most erotic vidya character ever created. She hits all the right spots.

>>378727731
Which one?

>>378727931
Why not buy GG and play her then?

>>378726742
Not really. She has a pretty shit parry stance that is either high or low and only 1-3 frames active out of blockstun and she still has one of the worst defense modifiers in the game so she gets blown up for even a single misuse of it. Jam gets just as much reward from her parry albeit in less situations, and Raven gets a shit ton more use out of his stance, and it's much easier to use, and he's got the best guts in the game.
Baiken's got a couple good buttons and good damage in the corner but azami sucks, she's slow as shit, she's meter hungry and that really hurts her oki game since she's really only getting a high/low with yrc or spending 50% for her instant overhead. I mean it's still Xrd and you can use anyone and do ok but I'd definitely peg her as low mid for now.

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>>378728019
Which do you think?

>>378728048
I'm not a fan of fitan gaems.

h-hows jack-o, kum and may

>>378728247
All pretty good.

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>>378728202
I'm sure if you spent some time with it and learned to play Ram, you'd discover what makes fighting games so great!

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>Bought this for my PC
>runs slow as shit

So much for that

Is Jack-O a puppetmaster character?

>>378728762
Zato is the puppet character. Jack-O does not directly control her minions.

>>378728762
no

>>378728191
hold up is that a

>>378728972
It's a Hokuto no Ken reference, she even yells out ATATATATATA

>$44.99 USD
>For a fighting game that will die in like 2 months

How do we fix modern fighting games?

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>>378729161

>>378729337
>Remove esports and do more general advertising
>Make all characters require difficult execution
>Proper netcode
>Prioritize art style and load times over graphics
>Plenty of arcade, score attack and challenge modes
>Regular free updates to maintain community

These probably contradict one another so a perfect fighting game is impossible.

>>378729337
NRS work on story mode and extra BS
Arcs work on Visuals
Killer Instinct Netcode
(Your favorite dev) to work on gameplay
Namco work on Music

>>378729530
I've never played KI

Is it nearly as good Skullgirls netcode?

Praise GGPO

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>too good for beginner lobbies
>too shit for normal lobbies

>>378729161
>Instead of buying and supporting it, force a stigma that it's dead before it even comes out
>No one buys it because they think it's going to be dead within a month
>Pretty much exactly what happens
>Good games get killed because people are too lazy and prideful to support them for absolutely retarded reasons
This is why PC doesn't deserve games. A few months ago this exact same shit happened and it's literally people like you who think this shit's fault.

>>378729656
Yes we need to remove the stigma. Just because the PC community is shit at fighting games and won't stick with them doesn't mean that people shouldn't spend money to play online with them!

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>>378729648
>too good for normal lobbies
>too shit for private lobbies

the cycle never ends anon, get used to it

>>378729723
You can say that for SF, doesn't really work for GG.

The top players overwhelmingly play on the PC version because it has less input delay and marginally better netcode.

>>378729004
So it's a jojo reference

>>378729723
It's not just fighting games, even shooters. Titanfall 2 is the best example of this. PC gamers would rather play another thousand more hours of Team Fortress 2, CSGO, etc. than devote even a fraction of that time to learning and playing a new game.

>>378729004
Which is a jojo reference.

how do i ky

>>378729508
ok so guilty gear

>>378729858
Stun Edge -> YRC -> Win neutral for free

If they start jumping over it, AA them with 6P or 2H

Also learn his CSE / Grinder mixup

Do that and you'll shit on everyone except the people who actually know how to play

>>378729598
It's the best online I've had with a fighter.

how to 6P

I feel like it won't hit and I do something stupid instead

>>378730092
depends on what kind of 6p
most of the time you have to aim to trade even if it doesnt look safe

>>378730092
Time it right. Go to dojo and use recording to make the npc air dash or jump in by command then practice your 6p.

However, some air to ground will clash or cleanly beat 6p so you have to use other anti air method too

Someone please give me some Answer tech

>>378729919
Except it doesn't have a large enough community.

Is Rev 2 PC gonna be dead in a week again?

>>378730732
It's the fate of any small fighting game. Pretty sure only games like Street Fighter and Tekken will ever be able to retain a decently sized playerbase outside Japan. If you're interested in a game like Guilty Gear, the only way is to play, support and be part of the small playerbase that exists. Anime games will never have the same broad appeal.

>>378730467
I don't know much myself since I only touched him a bit for the trials and episode, but the general idea seems to be doing set ups with the scrolls.
Your best bet would to watch footage of good japanese players from the arcade release and see what you can get from them like so:
https://youtu.be/kAamVouYMDE
https://youtu.be/Z-KjSzbXq60

This guy's channel has plenty of these for a variety of characters so I recommend checking it out for anyone else as well.

>>378730732
Only if you let it be.

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>>378730732
Even if it's dead, I'll always be there to play with you anon

Speaking of GG and speaking of trials.
How tight is the Sacred Edge after Split Ciel in Ky's Advanced 10.
I keep trying and trying and trying and it never connects.

I don't get how I'm supposed to even get in as Jam.

>>378728048
She's shit tier

>>378729829
>>378729656
>>378729161
>Love animu fighters and tittyfall 2
>/v/ keeps spouting ded games
>Low pop due to ded memes
I fucking hate this place sometimes

>>378731258
There's something special about playing with a small dedicated group of players regularly and getting your ass kicked by them over and over. They are supportive as you slowly improve in hopes for more competition.

>>378731671
The tier lists only take into consideration top level play. Since most players aren't playing at top level, the tier list doesn't apply to them.

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Baiken is fun. Practiced her dustloops for 4 hours, starting to get the hang of it. How are you guys doing?

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>>378720443
Never

>>378726889
Out of all the supers in the game they translated, they did a horrible job with this one.

>>378732218
Learning El's new unblockable routes. Seems pretty impracticable in most instances. Better to go for mixups than raw unblockable. Even Fumo isn't going for them anymore.

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Is it possible to defeat Japan?

>>378732218
practiced my (5k -c.S-5H-2D-22 (k)) with Jam and I think I'm ready to go online now.

>>378732480
Its funny to me that Japan dominates the fuck out of this game, yet does so poorly with SFV. Is it the game, or is it the fact that Japan didn't get it a year earlier for once?

>>378732613
No arcade version. Japan isn't including 5 in a lot of their tournaments because there is no arcade version.

>>378732613
Japan doesn't have a year headstart in SFV this time.

>>378732480

Poor elvenshadow. This is the second time he's been utterly btfo on stream with an IK.

>>378732480
was there any way he could have gotten out of that with burst?

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>>378732937
He didn't have burst. But it's not like burst will save you from japs anyway.

>>378732937
Look at the burst meter and ask again. Unless you are asking about some what-if theoretical situation.

>>378733091
>>378733106
I'm asking a hypothetical, I don't know GG that well. I'm not sure what he could do without burst OR with burst

>>378733159
He could have bursted at any point so long as there wasn't an opportunity that Dogura could have baited it.

>stylish mode

I don't understand

>>378733449
Makes it easier to do shit. Doesn't matter since mother fuckers will still dunk on you.

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>>378732218
Messin around with Johnny mist changes.

More useful then i thought it would be so im happy.

>>378733838
>MF stance
WHAT DOES THE MF STAND FOR?

>>378733993
Mist Finer

>>378732937
You can't burst after being (command)thrown, burst wouldn't have saved him.

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>360 motion grab super
>accidentally jump
>whiff

I love fighting games

Is Jam's 9th combo trail a good one to practice?

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What character should I start as if I'm a complete fucking noob that has never touched a guilty gear before and my overall ability in fighting games can best be described as a raging dumpster fire?

>>378735808
>360 motion grab super
Can be difficult on some controllers so you have to buffer it

>>378735862
Easiest to play and win with are Raven and Leo in my opinion. Ky is quite simple and has good moves but he doesn't have much bullshit outside of online greed sever so it may be difficult to win with him. Sin is also extremely simple and powerful.

>>378735808
>playing Jack-O

No one to blame but yourself

>>378735823

Basic one? Not really.

>>378736134
shut up

Jams basic 10 is gonna take me forever.

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Will he ever come back?

>>378735862
Just play Ky if you are completely new.

Elphelt is the best and most fun stance character I ever played

I hope Rev2 does well on PC and that the Lobby can keep it alive so they can add lobbies to BB on PC

>>378736897
PC BB doesn't have the big lobbies?

>>378736897
Say what you will about SFV, but at least it has crossplay. I can't imagine playing most fighting games online on PC.

>>378737048
Nope, but there are rumors that if Rev2 lobby will be successful that they'll add them to BB.

>>378737239
Makes sense I guess.

Did anyone find a treasure chest in one of the big lobbies?

Which game do I buy, 3rd strike or 3rd relevator? What the hell is a relevator anyways.

>>378737436
>Which game do I buy, 3rd strike or 3rd relevator? What the hell is a relevator anyways.
Injustice©2 for the Playstation© 4 for the Ultimate Fighting Game Experience© #4theplayers

>>378737429
yes. it was like the stuff you get when you fish

I get the impression you have to be on fucking point all the time when playing against anyone. One mistake and your dead

>>378737187
Yeah, it's amazing how big company can spend money on crossplay!

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>>378720443
>>378721673

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>>378738179
>One mistake and your dead
That's fighting games for you.

>>378738302
It feels a lot more hardcore. I've played BB and UNIEL but this is something else.

>>378738361
BB is Guilty Gear lite for a reason.

>>378732480

Oh, fuck. It happened again. I'm surprised he hasn't killed himself yet.

>>378732480
I admire his determination but he will forever be a cuck.

>>378738425
I like the game but I don't think I will ever win a single round.

>>378738361
play arcana hearts, that'll put heirs on your chest.

>>378738302
Wait, what is this?

>>378720443
>tfw no cute bunny-gynoid that wants to be my bride
Why even live?

>>378736897
does REV2 on PC actually comes with the big lobbies?

>tfw play against a good venom
Even chicken blocking doesn't work, fuck

Do you guys have any tips for doing air combos? I can't help but hit the button one too many times and fuck it up.

>>378739056
yes

>>378740426
Who're you using? Air combo ease depends on the character and the character you're up against since weight and hurtbox play a factor

>>378740519
I'm using Jam

i have never played a guilty gear game. Should i start now?

>>378740779
The tutorial they have is really cool. shame they don't have one for each character though.

Are there any tricks to learning how to do inputs precisely, seeing my stuff on training mode it feels a bit too sloopy.

>>378740607
Not much I can suggest but to practice the air combo and rid the habit of inputting too much. Against certain opponents you have to adjust your aircombos so it can actually hit, but I don't use Jam so I wouldn't really know specifics.

is there a trick to iad on pad or do I just have to get used to it

>>378741086
I guessed as much. Thanks anyway.

hows my boy Slayer doing

>>378740930
What controller do you use?

Someone posts 4k Baiken tits already

>>378726740

They're everything but little

gee how come guns n roses get two different outfits but not everyone else

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>>378720443

guise why the fuck is ramlethal so strong wtf nerf her too

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>>378728123
i dont care what tier she is tbqh, ill still be loyal, even if i have to be free most matchups

>>378741715
Cause she's special :^)

>>378741715

Cause she was using baikens color scheme?

>>378741275
Pretty dandy, anon.

Anyone else finding the online on PC feels significantly worse than Rev1? Even at a 2-3 delay it feels horrible whereas in Rev 1 you could get as high as 6 frames before it started to feel shitty.

>>378744098
Same thing with sign day 1 in pc; though they patched that out down the line along with that memory leak problem it had

>>378741121
956 works well for me. You just have to get used to it. I'm afraid I don't have any tricks to offer.

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WALL 2 WALL

DRAG-ON INSTALL

>>378740045
I play Venom. I don't know what exactly trouble you're having with him, but I'll point out a few things:

>at max range his pokes don't lead to much, usually they poke>ball summon so try to poke back
>S Carcass Raid, the move where he shoots a ball at an angle to the ground, can be jumped over. Is +x at around mid. They usually do this move after c.S or 2S.
>H Carcass Raid can be interrupted very late into the animation, and really is only rewarded if they CH you from it
>Mad Struggle, the move where he dives you with his stick, can be instant blocked for a free throw every time.
>QV is minus on block and they do it as a frame trap. Try to attack back if they do it close or escape if you see the start up.
>the answer to most of Venom's offense is Blitz. You can tell when they are going anti-Blitz setup if they aren't coming close to you with balls. Even then, blitzing a ball will let you escape pressure.

>>378744241
I fight a really good Venom in my locals. When I get corner carried, I get scummed with pressure> ball set>f.S>ball set>f.S> ball set, although I usually FD the part when he f.S, he gets a read on me most of the time when I try to jump out with 6H. Since I have low profile moves, I usually use that to go under his stinger aim, so he takes it to the air spastically

>>378728202
There's a story mode that's literally just an anime movie, you should at least watch those.

>>378744173
Ah okay. Hopefully they do the same for Rev2 in the near future.

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>>378720443
I wish the devs would make some significant changes to the top tiers.

Everyone uses johnny and sin all the fucking time. I really cant blame them because who wouldn't use characters with shitloads of safes and great pokes which are also combo starters, i havent fought more than 1/5th of the cast besides arcade/MOM mode and the only times i see other characters online is when i use them myself for shits and gigles.

I'm almost not buying Rev2 for this reason alone.

Is there a pirated PC version yet?
I want to see if I can run it smoothly

How big are the gaps in tiers in Rev 2?

>>378744696

Just get some friends who main better characters, the new bigger lobbies are great for chatting and playing a bunch of different people

>>378745101
Not that big

>>378745031
There is release by CODEX, but Rev2 is just DLC. If you just want to know if it runs well you can just try with Revelator if you can't find Rev2.

>>378745265
Im south american and the only people i onow also only play johnny and sin, some times ky

>>378745101

This is the lowest tier character in the game, he's been signifigantly buffed since this video and is still low tier

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWL2hMseIhQ

The list is more about how many unfavorable matchups a character has, everyone can pull crazy shit

>>378745286
But big enough that you should definitely play one of the top tiers if possible?

>>378745347
That's bullshit
Why do consoles get a standalone rev2 while PC has to buy the first one and then upgrade

>>378744696
That's something you have to accept in competitive games, only a tiny part of the cast will ever be played

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>be mid tier
>get nerfed to bottom

Th-thanks, Daisuke.

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>>378745438
No, you can still absolutely shit on anyone with the worst character in the game. Unless you decide that you want to be the best player in the world then you should worry about playing whoever is the current best character.

>>378745513
You don't. There's a bundle with both for cheaper then getting them separately.

Give back Pretty Maze when you want us to solve the Elphelt and Ramlethal problem. Anytime.

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>>378745685
>be S tier
>get left relatively untouched except a few minor buffs and easier execution
I've been a Chipp main since GGX so it feels fuckin good

Don't think of GG tiers like who is good and who is bad. It's more like who gets to autopilot and who has to work the hardest.

>>378745903

Any tips? I've wanted to play him for so long but I think I'm too retarded; I main may and play a little jam and pot

>>378746008
So why wouldn't you just use the autopilot characters?

>>378746075

Because you're not a retarded monkey and playing as a ninja or vampire who punches people into walls is cool

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>>378746075
Because the goal is to have fun.

>>378746075
Because being autopilot doesn't necessarily mean they work on players who know the matchup. You might pubstomp some people with Leo but if the opponent knows the matchup he can counter it easily.

>>378746196
>>378746232
Isn't the whole idea to win? So why not use whoever will let you win the easiest?

I don't think I'll ever be good at this. I can't even get a combo off online/

Rev 2 tier list out yet?

Puppet =
Tricky (Characters with gimmicks or who are fast) =
Turtle =
Rushdown =
Balanced =
Stance Changer =
Zoner =
Grappler =

Fill the blanks

>>378746279
Who're you using? Have you tried practicing shorter, more practical combos? You can also simulate 2-3f delay offline if it really can't be helped

>>378746263

You must not play fighting games with your friends very much, do you

>>378746398
Jam, maybe I should just pick someone else.

>>378746394

Puppet = Zato
Tricky (Characters with gimmicks or who are fast) = Chipp
Turtle = lol
Rushdown = Fucking everyone
Balanced = Ky
Stance Changer = Leo
Zoner = May/Faust
Grappler = Pot

>>378746263
If tournament winnings was your only source of income maybe. Besides, player's styles and personalities might not always be a fit for what character ends up on top for one version.

>>378746501
Yeah I do, and when we do, we try our very best to win, because competition is fun

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>>378721673
>>378720443
>>378726740

>>378746516
I usually have an offline and online character. My online character's Sin since he's pretty lag safe. My offline character's Kum, because fuck it if I'm going to do Four Swords Reverse loops online.

How do people even enjoy playing fighting games online

>>378746589

Then get good with whoever jives with you the most. Your own aptitude with a character makes much more a difference in this game then tiers.

Johnney's top tier sure, but it's his advanced tech that makes him so. Unless you have a really good handle on that you might as well just play someone you're more familiar with. Not to mention the higher tier character you play the more matchup experience someone has against them, so you better really be setting yourself apart if you want to win with them.

>>378740045
Chicken blocking?

>>378745598
True, but even on sf and kof i would see some variation even if the characters were considered awful, now it is just johnnys and sins with a side order of ky kiske since i got revelator.

This is my first GG and I'm so fucking bad at it but holy hell this game is so much fun. I used to be a BlazBlue fanboy but after playing GG I understand why so many people consider it better than BB. I get my ass kicked every time online but the game is so fun that I don't mind. For once /v/ has influenced me to buy a game that is actually really good.

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>Every update comes with a price tag of SIGN
So, for a price of 3 games you'll get 1 updated game?
What a deal!

>>378746686

>has the meter to RC teleport
>doesn't

>>378746804

Blocking while midair. It makes you safe since you don't have todeal with High-Low

>>378746787
I'd rather just practice until I got the hang of Johnny instead of limiting myself to whoever fits my existing experience.

>>378746653
I don't know anyone to play offline with. It's all online for me.

>>378746573
>May
>a fucking zoner
>not the true definition of turtle

>>378746962
on some days I get really good connection, though I do know people online that I play with and get good connection (like2-3 framedelay on good days) so I use Kum there since she's really my main-main. Else I just use Sin, Axl online. Axl is especially brutal against people who dont know how to stop jumping

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>>378746009
His normals are fast as fuck but short, which can make neutral difficult at a distance so you want to use things like Alpha Blade and his teleports to get in close and start applying pressure. His far S is arguably his best normal at midrange but it's not that good. His jab is great when you're right in their face. You basically want your opponent to feel like you're everywhere at once so constantly mixing up how you come at them is important. You can also turn invisible whenever you get some breathing room or a hard knockdown to fuck with them some more.

You can use his shuriken to cover your jump-ins/air dashes, and his air normals are really strong for pressure, namely j.D and j.H for air-to-ground and j.P for air-to-air. His air shuriken super can be used for some insane setups, especially after a knockdown.

6P and Beta Blade are your main anti-airs. BB is a straight up DP so it's pretty good.

On the ground, you should almost always try to go into a sweep from any blockstring. Chipp can cancel it into a teleport to make it safe (including the in-place teleport to keep your blockstring going), plus it chains into his rekka, which has a built in high/low mixup, and if you sweep into the first hit of the rekka it will float them up for an air combo, so it's a really strong option since if they block they're forced into a mixup (which leads into a combo if it works) and if it hits it goes into a combo anyways.

Rev 2 also added a nice little trick where you can YRC the start of Gamma Blade almost immediately and still get the projectile. You have to adjust your combos for whether you're near the wall or not, but being able to wall stick just by holding the button makes it a lot easier.

If all else fails, his 632146H super is strong, hits at a great angle to anti-air, and can be very hard to punish depending on where the opponent is, so it can be very worth it to just let it rip as a last ditch effort.

>>378746896
No, chicken blocking is jumping to block an air attack so when you land you end up at 0 blockstun and be able to punish your opponent's recovery, which doesn't even apply to the Venom matchup that much.

>>378747174
Delta blade is the DP btw, not Beta blade.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9S0L0F9F1I
>inb4 "muh ecelebsss xdd"

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>>378747290
bruh

>>378747184
The term covers both meanings. The "chicken" part is from holding up back to block, especially in Marvel games, to avoid low mixups. It also works in GG but you'll need to spend meter to FD in order for it to work.

Is May really that easy of a character for a new player? People keep saying this but her oki seems kind of difficult to learn, compared to like Ky or Elphelt from what I've experienced so far.

>>378720443
If you still complain about Elphelt in 2017, there's something wrong with you.

>>378747735
She's somewhat intermediate simply because of the charge moves and beach ball/dolphin setups, but nothing too hard. Her vertical dolphin YRC setup is scummy though since its burst safe and crosses up hard

Elphelt is a fatty

>>378745903
>Chipp S tier
Even though I think Chipp is strong as fuck, don't fall for Teresa's dumb tier listing.

>>378747375
Legitimately super entertaining and Mike and Gootecks can fucking quit for all I care, SFV killed them.

How is Johnny in Rev2? Still cheap shit or what?

>>378720443
>fight elphet
>get shot

>>378747174
2S is Chipp's best poke, though far S is also great and has a higher hitbox. In addition to 6P and Beta Blade, Chipp also has 2HS, which is really strong against some jumpins that 6P has trouble with (especially stuff coming straight from above).

Rekka ender mixups are SUPER unsafe and not very legit. They are sort of a Hail Mary... Unless you have meter. In that case, RRC makes it safe and leads to good damage and corner carry.

It's also very important to learn Chipp's okizeme. FDC safe jumps that act as ambiguous crossups mid screen (but are susceptible to blitz), and wall cling mixups in the corner which can go high, low, left or right.

Can people with just Rev still play or do they get separated?

so the "REV2 + All REV2 DLCs Bundle" you can buy on steam includes the system voices and extra colors for Answer and Bacon?

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Have played GG on and off since xrd, never finding a character click with me. Decided to give Dizzy a go after seeing some really cool fire and ice pillar juggle combos and some really cool bubble air dash shenanigans. Does anyone know of an up to date resource for her rev2 version aside from patch notes? Seems harder to find stuff for her compared to others and I've just been watching old combo videos and Kazunoko's matches to try and pick stuff up. Even just some tips or insights on her would be nice. Thanks.

>>378748912
Separated.

>>378749036
That's pretty messed up.

>>378749036
This is one of the biggest reasons why GG will never get big.

>>378749069
>>378749112
It's been a fucking year and the upgrade is 20 dollars.

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>>378749293
>Paying 20$ for a fucking updates that they need to shit out anyway to keep their game relevant.

>>378749293
Apparently even less than 20 bucks in my country; idk how exchange rates work in steam but upgrading from rev 1 to rev 2 only costs around 11 USD

>>378748960
Yeah

>>378749069
How is it messed up? You want to play old balance versions vs new versions? It's a new version of a fighting game like they all have done for the past 30 years.

>>378748762
Thanks anon, always learning

>>378749453
Better than paying the full 60 for another installment. This is honestly a step in the right direction, and its been 1 year now. I don't know in what way can this be bad. The content and massive overhaul for PC is honestly up to par with the price.

>>378749765
Doesn't matter if its reasonable, people still react poorly to being made to buy more into a game they've already bought. Especially when it facillitates people jumping ship the instant the new shit is popped up.

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>>378749487
Yeah its way cheaper in my country too, I don't know what gives

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>>378748186
Fat in all the right places.

>>378749921
You do realize the reason why people stopped playing Sign and Revelator on PC was because US gets the updates when Japan gets the newest ones, thus keeping the "ASW cycle" going right? When PC got Sign, Rev was announced for consoles, and Rev on PC was announced 6 months after Rev on consoles released. Now that the PC-Console release date gap is getting closer, there's literally nothing to dissuade someone from dropping it due to another update.

>>378749765
To be fair though the full releases tend to have a lot more content than Rev2. Revelator had six new characters instead of two, longer story et cetera. I think it balances out in the end. I wouldn't mind if they keep doing DLC upgrades but I'd be okay with full releases as well, as long as they don't scale back on the content of those.

>>378750201
Yes, which creates a cycle of why the fuck should I pay for this when there is already another addition planned, along with a player-base swap. The cycle is why these games lose 90% of their playerbase week 2.

>>378748325
>Character who requires good execution skills
>Cheap

>>378748969
Dizzy discord has a lot of info if you don't mind it https://discord.gg/010mhBiZ6iFf6edGL
Check the dizzy-general-resources channel for useful links. I can't give you any tips myself because I haven't played much Dizzy.

>>378750319
>When there is already another addition planned

I don't think they announced a new one, or are planning to, atleast that's what the community manager at Steam forums is saying. Besides I don't think that's a fair argument against it since when the continuous updates on SF4 happened, it either retained the numbers or it kept growing.

>>378750462
Oh this'll do nicely, thanks a ton, anon

>>378745362
> tfw started playing with sin and ky
It's okay, I switched to axl now

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is there a lore reason why Elphelt is nice but Ramlethal is mean?

and why do Valentines wear those hats?

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>love the general feel of the game, but don't even know who I want to play anyways, all I do is turtle like a bitch and bore people
>want to learn the game with someone that has an all around moveset and maybe eventually figure it out
>play ky/sol even though I don't like them that much and nobody else likes those players anyways
I want to play this damn game, but I am so afraid of getting counter hit and getting blown up. Ive at least learned how to convert stray hits into some damage decently, but folding up and FD is my first fucking instinct.

>>378750319
Because if you enjoy a game you should just enjoy the present and play it. People dropping the game comes from a huge gap in the JPN release and the NA release, devs have been getting a lot better at releasing them close together.

>>378721673
Who's grabbing her leg?

>>378751016
Try concentrating on playing more aggressive and less defensive even if that means getting blown the fuck up, just play a few matches with an understanding opponent and just don't block unless you have to, see how far you can get with only offense and practice it that way.

>>378751016
watch. He's more or less in your situation.
>>378747375

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>>378729826
>>378729857

>>378751187
It also kills new players from even picking up the series when they know in advance that they're just going to have to keep buying into the games to keep playing as well. The paid expansion model doesn't work in a competitive setting when damn near all of the most popular games are buy in once and get it all, or F2P.

>>378751016
If I've learned anything in the short time I've played GGrev2 (first time in the GG series, only have like 100 hours in BBCPEX + CF and like 20 hours in skullgirls) its that this game is all about maximizing one hit, so I can feel your pain.

I watched the tournament last night and lit watched a ram 100-0 a pot with a rediculous mixup cuz swords and it made me want to get a refund, but at the same time there's so much going on that I can't give up. I can't find anything about blitz shields or danger in the tutorials but I watched the guys pull it back even after getting shit on as pot, which it seems most people think is one of the worst characters due to a bad matchup against like everyone but Slayer.

Don't waste your time playing "all rounders" Play who you want to play. While getting used to the feel of the game helps execution, knowledge of your character is worth twice as much.

>>378750005
Nah, just fat.
I mean why her weight is listed as ???

>>378751354
In player matches most people quit out on me after one match because they don't get anything from it outside of wasted time and I eventually just leave and try a few ranked ones so I can keep playing at least.

>>378751819
Another problem is I don't exactly know "who" I want to play, which is why I'm sticking with the all around trio of sol/ky/faust right now, but I don't care for any of them that much. The one I probably like most out of the 3 is faust.

http://www.gotoquiz.com/which_fighting_game_style_suits_you_3

Post result

>>378752264
Well if you don't have a main then I'm sorry, you're stuck until you find one. Especially if you want to actually get into the game and dedicate time to it.

All I can say is play everyone's arcade, look at their moveset and see if there's one that clicks with you for easier execution or has the variety you want. Spam the shit out of their normals. THEN try to look into combos. If you hate a character's neutral game then chances are you won't work well with their combos either. I wouldn't bother with any of the meter supers or instant kills, I don't think those ever get used in this game. yrc is just too fucking good in every aspect.

>>378752264
If you don't know who you want to play, play the one you want to fuck the most

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>>378752761
>If you hate a character's neutral game then chances are you won't work well with their combos either.
That's how I've been trying to go about it. If I can't feel right playing them, I'm going to not have fun losing and eventually resent the game, and I really don't want that because I absolutely adore fighters, despite being bad at them.

>>378752720
kek

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>>378751946
Rude.

>>378750825
>is there a lore reason why Elphelt is nice but Ramlethal is mean?
Elphelt wasn't "awakened" to her true purpose so she just wandered about until mommy told her to fuck shit up, but then Ramlethal had turned good and told Elphelt to calm down.
Ram started mean because mommy raised her that way from the start.
No reason why they wear hats, maybe mom told them to.

Why are Elph and Jack-Off so fucking attractive? Yet, why do there inclusions into guilty gear make me angry.

>>378753921
How do you feel about Blazblue?
I know a few people who when Xrd came out felt like Elphelt was more of a Blazblue character and that it was a sign of GG being aimed at the BB audience.

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>>378753306
baiken is pretty fuckable, desu

>>378754159
XRD is a lot more anime than most of the GG releases in general.

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WHO /Bedmen/ here?

anyone here playing right now?

>>378753921
people are angry with Jack-O?

>>378753921
Same, I don't like elphelt though.

>>378753921
Because they belong in Blazblue.

>>378756432
>when you get them in the corner and the blender turns on

Who is best zoner?

>>378758053
Jack-O is the only valentine who doesn't look like a BB character.

gonna get revelator when its 10$
when do you think it will get to that price

>>378761629
Never honestly

>>378761629
Its been on sale for months and even hit 15 bucks and you wanna wait till 10?

>>378761629
when the next next game is out

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>>378753921
Both of them look like they should be in Blazblue more specifically they look like they'd be in Noel's circle of friends, Go on, tell me the valentine sisters wouldn't look out of place next to them

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>>378765540
Especially in their casual outfits

>>378765540
But Noel looks like a Guilty Gear character

>>378765540
Blazblue was a mistake.

>>378766270
She even has a jellyfish pirate outfit and the original valentine's outfit and some of Dizzy's moves and she's only 3 years younger than Dizzy. But unlike Dizzy, the man she wants to fuck is gone forever.

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>>378748969
I love Dizzy but be aware about her shit normals and no meterless reversal. If you are not a block person you are gonna suffer.

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>>378765540
>Go on, tell me the valentine sisters wouldn't look out of place next to them
They wouldn't look in place at all. Even with the newer art style, saying GG and BB are visually the same is the video game equivalent of saying that Evangelion and Tsukihime are visually identical.
>>378766270
Holy shit, you're right.

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I'm in love with this business weeaboo. He's surprisingly fun to play.

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Any of you weebs want to play Rev 2 on steam?

>>378769021
>go online the day Rev2 came out
>9 Baikens for every 1 Answer

this dude is gonna be forgotten faster than Kum

>>378769649
Is it crossplay with PS4, right? Which lobby are you in?

Is the added story stuff just more anime clips. Couldn't they have done it like blaz blue

>>378769757
It's not crossplay sadly.

>>378769757
>Is it crossplay with PS4, right?
Oh, Anon.

What character should I try if I like using Ragna and Tsubaki?

>>378770404
Sol

>>378770404
>Ragna
Sol

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>>378766714
>>378768413
No, I meant literally, Noel looks like one specific Guilty Gear character

So how does upgrading from Revelator to Rev 2 work? I fucked up and bought Sign when it first released on PC so I want to make sure I don't mess up again.

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NA PC lobby
Code: 5k43
I'm on east coast but if two west coasters join you can play each other I guess. I know how to play but I'm going to practice my shitty day-2 Baiken so feel free to join regardless of your skill level.

>>378771085
buy rev 2 dlc from the revelator store page
???
video games

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>>378771228
I'll join, east coast shitter here.

>>378770461>>378770516
I only have sign because I'm a poorfag. Did Sol get any moveset or gameplay changes in Revelator?

>>378746009
Grab into maxmium chipp super, everyone blocks the wrong way and eats it.

>>378771228
2 day baiken my ass

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>>378769757
Sorry anon

Is it worth getting this game on PC or will it just die immediately? Also how is Sol in this version?

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>>378770858
Clothing aesthetics in GG seems to be 70% Hair Metal as a base, 10-20% Gothic-ish for accessories and small details, and borrows from typical early to mid 90s anime monster and world designs.
Blazblue goes in heavier on the Gothic inspired aesthetics and things like metal, spikes, belts and buckles tend to look more refined and less industrial. More high fantasy constructs, less factory floor, sheet metal. A good comparison for this is the summoned swords from the Murakumo units and Ram's floating swords. The former looking smoother and sleeker, while the later looks industrial and rough.
Noel's military uniform has visual features that were popular in 90s anime, like the military beret and hard metal clasps on the sleeves. If she had shoulder pads on she'd look very visually similar to Jill Valentine from RE1. That's where I think she looks like she fits better in GG than BB, but she's the exception rather than the rule for BB characters. It's why I used NGE and Tsukihime as the comparison points in my earlier post.

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Chatting in Rev 2 is so shit compared to Sign they need to fix this retarded shit

>>378771772
Sorry... I had changed character in the player room and thought it'd change it for lobbies too

>>378771262
I didn't notice Rev 2 was separate on the DLC list, maybe I'll buy it now or I'll wait for a sale, being poor is awful.

>>378738302
wtf?! how the fuck did he took all her life with one fucking hit?
this is some serious BS.

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Anyone have a good May guide?

>>378772806
Hellfire + Danger Time + Slayer + Millia's health.

Imagine he did Burst Super.

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What is easier to learn as a new player.
Dizzy or Ram?

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>>378773330
Do NOT pick waifus if you're new. Always pick the buffest men.

>>378773017
Check out 2ndState's tutorials on youtube

>>378773330
They're both equally hard to be honest

>>378773330
Aren't they both zoners?

>>378773742
fuck you i'm new and picked ram because she has nice swords. having a great time even though i get my ass handed to me most of the time

>>378728454
i think there are some bugs with this new version. try out rev1 and see if that still happens. hopefully we'll be getting patches.

>>378773742
I really, really wouldn't recommend Zato, Venom or Johnny for a beginner.

GGs stylish baiken, the 8frames really hurt but still ggs

>>378774012
Trust me i did the same mistake because of the feet bait and i ended up with a character with a slow neutral game and impossible-to-start combos. Sorry for your waifu, but i'd use Sol or Ky to learn how to play.

>>378773742
>>378773884
>>378773929
So you telling me this game forces me to be gay? Why did they make all the girl characters hard?

>>378774594
girl characters are either hard or bad take your pick

>>378774594
>forces me to be gay
Dude, what's your playstyle? Rushdown? Just pick Millia then

>>378774694
where does Elphelt fall in that distinction

>>378774694
What about Elphelt?

>>378774945
She is a fun stance character

More enjoyable than Leo

>>378774967
>>378774945
easy until you have to learn grenade unblockables

>>378774708
I like the lay back and for them to come back to me or poke.

>>378774945
She's a zoner. Either you mindlessy spam sniper and grenades and get your ass handed by good rush down players or learn how to keep people at bay with all the different tools

>>378774594
Dizzy and Ram are the hardest.
May and Jack-O are both good beginner characters. The rest of the girls aren't too bad either as long as you keep to easier combos when starting out.

I suck at blocking. Would Baiken be a good character for me?

>>378775125
fuck this game is trash then

>>378775380
half of his moveset is about blocking...

>>378775380
baiken is not a good character for anyone atm

>>378775380
>I suck at blocking.
Play I-No and hope you get the first knockdown

>>378772296
Who is this semen demon

>>378731617
it's the opposite of tight. Watch the trial and when they start inputting the 236236. You start the motion late in the split ciel recovery and the recovery for split ciel is very long. It's a link and not a cancel.

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>>378733091
If I ever see this faust in a lobby, I'm going to activate IK roundstart

>>378775094
>She's a zoner.

No she isn't. While Elphelt has great tools for space control (in case of grenade great is an understatement even), she's more of a mid-range gorilla. That's actually what makes her strong, she's a char who can switch between zoning and rushdown at moment's notice, and excel in both. Her shotgun corner pressure is her defining thing and that's as far from zoning as it gets.

>>378777464
I can get Sacred Edge out, so I'm not just tyring to do it too fast, but then it doesn't combo. It ether doesn't come out, when I'm too early, or it doesn't combo, when I'm too late. Can't find the sweet spot.

Also, thanks for answering 12 hours later.

Should I upgrade to rev 2 right now, or does it have technical issues that I should wait out?

Any of you want a PS4 lobby? I'm EC.

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>>378771228
GGs; should probably learn some Answer combos

is there a zangief equivalent? He's the only SFV character I've enjoyed/had any kind of success with

>>378779913
GGs, I wanted to write GGs in the in-game chat but couldn't figure out how to open it lol.

>>378780096
Potemkin

>>378778552
Requires timing just like split ciel micro dash 2D. A good way to learn the timing is to hold up after you do split ciel to see when the animation ends, and that's when you need to do it.

>>378779269
Room ID: 56qh
So nobody here plays on PS4? Come on guys, I'll sub if your new, no pressure. I'm not that great either way.

Im liking GG alot so far but the controller feels weird to me sometimes like I cant pull of combos with it half the time

Just git gud I guess?

>>378780805
You could get a stick or a hit box

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>Answer looks cool, has good buttons, very nice command throw that is satisfying to land, easily the most fun character on the roster for me
>Everything being discovered for him is extremely execution heavy and all character/weight/spacing specific with different delays throughout every combo and separate confirms for mid/full/and 2/3 screen distance
FUCK

>>378780805
It just takes getting used ot, it'll start feeling natural after a while.

>>378780898
Using a different type of controller will feel even more alien at first.

>>378781097

Yes but it still would better than contoller

I know a guy who uses a controller and still cant pull off full circle or zig zag movements with a controller

>>378781214
And BeautifuldudeGG plays Zato at tournaments with a controller, it doesn't mean anything.