Fire Emblem on Nintendo Switch

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>>378710806
>Both, if they could make it work.

This honestly

I wonder if they could do something with the casual & classic settings. Just make casual mode be more like Awakening & Fates and have Classic mode be just traditional Fire Emblem.

>>378710806
Just make Conquest with a story in Unreal Engine 4

>>378710806
>Fanservice
>le back to its roots
Both of these statements are always a sign for something awful.

>home console instead of the 3DS
flop confirmed.

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>>378710806
>Both if they could make it work
Why would it not ever be this? If they got that echoes shit in there plus the new shit from Awakening and Fates it would be a 10/10

>>378711505
what was wrong with Conquest story?

>>378711980
nothing, people just self-insert too much.

>>378710806
Fanservice is fine with me, just no easy bake oven children.

>>378712089
Agreed. It was nothing great, but the seething hatred for Fate's story is stupid.

>>378712089
you're retarded and didn't play it

>>378710806
There is literally no reason you can't have both. The series should always have hunky men and dazzling women and it shouldn't shy away from the horrors of war and the practices of medieval eras.

The problem will always come from the fact that most writers in this age SUCK SHIT.

OR

IS being unable to offer deeper gameplay because everyone throws a fit the second something changes. When is strategy going to be a thing again? Instead of counting tiles and playing the AI or abusing OP game mechanics.

>>378710806
If they can't be bothered to make a new advances wars because I don't know how to do it without romances, then I think we're okay in assuming it'll be chock full of fan service.

>>378711980
the story is pretty ridiculous.

>>378710806

As long as the story and gameplay are not ignored to implement fanservice, that's all I can hope for at this point. I'd rather it be purely traditional.

>>378710806
Both if they can make it work.

They just have to remove the dumb shit from the current games such as
>Mary sue self inserts as the main protagonist
>Shoehorned child birthing mechanics
>The Pokemon-esque separate versions shtick, where you have to buy both games to catch all your favorite waifus.

This probably won't happen though since IS recently came out that the only reason advance wars is dead is because they have no idea how to implement waifus in to it.

>>378710806
if you are gonna tout graphics, I better see breasts and ass within the first 5 seconds of gameplay.

>>378711980
>Azura tells you halfway through that Garon is behind everything
>You decide to kill Hoshido anyway
>Takumi is the final boss
>Everything that Nohr does is suddenly forgiven almost immediately at the end
>Game assumes you've played BR already so it doesn't explain why Azura disappears
>Nohrians don't ask you why you're luring Garon into Hoshido or why you've done anything up till the end of the game

>>378712903
>Game assumes you've played BR already so it doesn't explain why Azura disappears
huh? that's what birthright did. She disappeared randomly in that one, conquest is the one that explains why she disappears.

>>378712312
The characters all succ the Avatar's dick to the point that obviously questionable choices are praised by the characters rather than argued. For instance, Xander never once questioning why only the Avatar and Azura knew why they were luring Garon to Hoshido's throne, or the Avatar deciding that the only way to defeat Garon is to conquer Hoshido, rather than just showing the rest of the group the truth about Garon.

>>378713038
They don't explain that Azura's song weakens her and can cause her to disappear in CQ, only in BR

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>>378710806
as long as I get more genny I don't care

>>378713038
It's whichever one you do second that explains it actually.

>>378712903
That's not even the worst part
>Corrin, I have this magic crystal ball that will show you Garon's true form
>but it will only show up if you have a sacred weapon
>but I'm only showing it to you even though both of your brothers have sacred weapons, too
>breaks it

>>378713257
Oh, I played BR second. Never knew that was a feature.

>>378713234
That was conquest that did that though...

>>378710806

The question is irrevelevant because the path for the series has been made clear. Even Echoes ended up succumbing to waifubait even if you couldn't marry off characters in the same way.

The only thing I really want to see is a return to the old aesthetic. I liked simple armor designs that put more emphasis on making characters and colors pop. All this complicated, animeish armor like Sully's toiltet collar and every bit of the Heroes OC designs just looks dumb and brings the beltanzipper phase of JRPGs to mind. Fates was better about this, but future designs seem to borrow more from Awakening's playbook. It reflects in the Warriors OC too.

I just miss when shit at least seemed simpler and more down to Earth and it wasn't always about dimensions and time travel and dumb bullshit.

>>378710806
Both, A good story like FE4 and 9, with gameplay of 14C and 10 is all we need.

Both is the correct answer.

They'll keep making FE for 3DS right? I'm too poorfag for a switch.

Please do not bring the children system back.

Please for the love of god.

>>378710806
Fuck Fire Emblem, give me Advance Wars.

>>378711505
this, conquest was great gameplay-wise

>>378710806
why do burgers hate attractive charactes much?

>>378714621
Anon....
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-05-30-whats-keeping-nintendo-from-making-a-new-advance-wars

>>378714691
Aside from mr fuuga's wild ride it was. I can never fucking replay conquest because I NEVER want to do that map again.
It's like a modern day Thracia.

>>378714742
no

>>378711980
I dunno, try reading next time

>>378715064
>everyone speculates that the reason why we're not getting a new AW is because IS can't find a way to shove waifu and shipping bullshit into the series
>turns out that's pretty much exactly the reason why
Boy, that's "surprising." Already saw it, btw. Don't even give a shit. I've never cared for FE nearly as much as I care about AW.

>>378711980
everything

>>378717612
Not that I'd really want it for AW, but I don't really see how it could possibly be so hard. Go more Valkyria with it, I suppose. Sub-commanders or whatever, in charge of the more faceless pleb units.

I feel like they just don't really want to do it because it doesn't really seem like it'd be that hard to figure out.

>>378717827
>Not that I'd really want it for AW, but I don't really see how it could possibly be so hard. Go more Valkyria with it, I suppose. Sub-commanders or whatever, in charge of the more faceless pleb units.
I would kinda want to see this, but honestly, I kinda wanted AW to go in another direction. A lot of people on here have suggested AW becoming kind of a light 4X game, kinda like a more simple Civilization, with an emphasis on combat, but honestly, I'd take your idea too. I'd take anything as long as it meant a new AW, in complete seriousness.

>I feel like they just don't really want to do it because it doesn't really seem like it'd be that hard to figure out.
They don't want to do it because AW has never sold even remotely as good as FE, even when FE was dying, especially in Japan, where no one gives a shit about it.

They should hand the series to Retro or some indie developer. There's already one who's making a medieval AW game, right?

>>378715064
wow i hate nutendo

>>378715256
I dont see why everyone has so much trouble with that chapter. The eternal stairway of hell was the worst one

>>378713372
this is specially dumb given than in BR she actually shows it to Leo and at the very least he starts doubting Garon

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The new one is gonna go all in on the waifu stuff. After you get married you have to take your switch with you everywhere and go on dates with your waifu and tell her you love her in public.

>>378710806
Honestly I don't care much of whether or not there's fanservice. I just want a game like Conquest or Thracia where it doesn't hold my hand and requires me to think out my strategies, but while being more balanced and fixing some issues like discouraging one manning, turtling or anything that basically cheeses out the strategy.

>>378719874
The worst one imo was the Kitsune Hamlet. Fuga's fun if you know how to utilize the wind, while I grew to like or at least tolerate the eternal stairway by finding quick ways to get through it without cheesing by soloing it with Xander.

>>378710806

It won't "go back" to anything anon.

It will be on Awakening-Fates style because this is the ones that actually sell.

Unfortunately.

Alright /v/ let's discuss what gameplay mechanics should return and what new ones should be added. And for returning ones, on how they should be changed or not.
Here's a recap of some major mechanics used in the past:
-Weapon Durability vs Infinite Durability
-Weapon Triangle, (or Fates' WT)
-Innate/Equipable skills vs learnable skills vs weapon skills
-GBA canto vs Tellius/Jugdral canto
-Rescue
-Stamina
-Capturing
-Attack Stance/Guard Stance
-Black magic
-Height advantage/disadvantage
-Weapon weight (con vs weight; or str vs weight)
-Stat debuff
-Statt buff
-Status inflictions
-Scratch damage
-Thieves can steal items (and weapons)
-Reclassing
-3rd tier promotions
-Bonus exp
-Magic triangle
-Shops between chapters or within chapters
-Fog of war

>>378715256
Thracia is ten times better than borequest.

>>378721836
>-Weapon Durability vs Infinite Durability
Infinite Durability but the old Limited Use version is fine. Ideally I'd like one where you could repair weapons in between battles while having good weapons be rare/expensive.
>-Weapon Triangle, (or Fates' WT)
Keep it, its a staple.
>-Innate/Equipable skills vs learnable skills vs weapon skills
Learnable skills and weapon skills.
>-GBA canto vs Tellius/Jugdral canto
Tellius
>-Rescue
Sure
>-Stamina
No
>-Capturing
Fine
>-Attack Stance/Guard Stance
Not a big fan of pairing up.
>-Black magic
Sure, a magic triangle is fine.
>-Height advantage/disadvantage
Yes, it allows for more interesting map design.
>-Weapon weight (con vs weight; or str vs weight)
Yes, either works.
>-Stat debuff
Yes.
>-Stat buff
Yes
>-Status inflictions
Yes
>-Scratch damage
Fine.
>-Thieves can steal items (and weapons)
Why shouldn't thieves be able to steal shit?
>-Reclassing
Limited akin to Fates or not at all.
>-3rd tier promotions
Depends on the games length.
>-Bonus exp
Yes.
>-Magic triangle
If Dark magic is its own thing, then add light magic and have the triangle.
>-Shops between chapters or within chapters
Between.
>-Fog of war
In certain chapters, not the whole game.

>>378721836
Weapon Durability
Old WT
Weapon skills
GBA Canto
Capturing
Str vs Weight
Magic triangle
Shops during chapters
That's what I want.

>>378710806
Both if they can make it work, if not traditional. And please no new setting, continuation or prequel of something established please, I shudder to think that there could be something worse than revelations.

t. "oldfag"

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What are some features you guys want for FE Switch?

>Full voice acting. Echoes did it and Warriors will also be doing it.
>Dialog is in cut-scene form instead of a pair of talking sprites. Warriors is confirmed to be doing this.
>If there's a self-insert, dialog options, even if they mean nothing.
>A world map where you can do different battles in an order of your choosing.
>Good map/level design.

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>>378721836
>-Weapon Durability vs Infinite Durability
Fates style
>-Weapon Triangle, (or Fates' WT)
Fates WT since it's actually useful
>-Innate/Equipable skills vs learnable
skills vs weapon skills
Personal skills, but other skills comes from weapons.
>-GBA canto vs Tellius/Jugdral canto
GBA canto, every other canto was broken
>-Rescue
Yes
>-Stamina
Fatigue like Echoes but reduces stats and HP
>-Capturing
Yes
>-Attack Stance/Guard Stance
Yes, needs some more balancing though
>-Black magic
Yes
>-Height advantage/disadvantage
Yes, but reduce it so it isn't so OP
>-Weapon weight (con vs weight; or str vs weight)
STR, but I prefer none since CON activity hurts female units
>-Stat debuff
Yes
>-Statt buff
Yes
>-Status inflictions
Yes
>-Scratch damage
Yes
>-Thieves can steal items (and weapons)
Yes
>-Reclassing
Fates style
>-3rd tier promotions
Yes
>-Bonus exp
RD style
>-Magic triangle
Nope, shit is useless
>-Shops between chapters or within chapters
Base or My castle. Buying weapons during a battle makes no sense.
>-Fog of war
Fuck that shit

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>>378721836
>-Weapon Durability vs Infinite Durability
Don't care either way, though a system like FE4 or FE14 would be preferable. If capture comes back then def want durability.
>-Weapon Triangle, (or Fates' WT)
Yes
>-Innate/Equipable skills vs learnable skills vs weapon skills
I'd like a mix of all of the above, the last three games (Fates, FEH, and SoV) all handled skills well.
>-GBA canto vs Tellius/Jugdral canto
Jugdral canto is abit too addicting, I love it, but it would have to depend on the maps present in the title.
>-Rescue
Yes, GBA style rescue was the best.
>-Stamina
I feel conflicted, but overall wouldn't mind it since it was a nice incentive to use multiple teams in Thracia. Some people seem to hate it because they just want a dedicated team.
>-Capturing
Yes, love this mechanic. Hope to see a mix between thracia and fates capturing
>-Attack Stance/Guard Stance
I enjoyed it, though feel like it should be tweaked abit more from Fates style.
>-Black magic
Don't care either way, though it's nice when you get cool gimmick characters like Salem.
>-Height advantage/disadvantage
Yes
>-Weapon weight (con vs weight; or str vs weight)
Don't care either way, but would prefer to have it.
>-Stat debuffs, Stat buffs, Status inflictions
Yes, I love having extra layer of fun interactions
>-Scratch damage
Yes
>-Thieves can steal items (and weapons)
Yes
>-Reclassing-3rd tier promotions
Don't care either way, rather care more for branching promotions and alternative classes options like we had in fates
>-Bonus exp
Depends on a game, would be nice in something like Conquest
>-Magic triangle
Yes
>-Shops between chapters or within chapters
Yes
>-Fog of war
I hate it, but yes.

>>378721836
pair up can fuck right off

>>378724763
Fates pair-up is good though.

Echoes is a step in the right direction
Keep waifushit out

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Need JoJo art.

>>378714424
FE switch won't be here till at least late next year. If you could afford a 3ds, you can save enough in that time to get a switch.

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Quick strawpoll on whether we see the game at E3 this year.

http://www.strawpoll.me/13086661

>>378710806
>Conquest Gameplay
>Avatar DOESNT HAVE TO BE THE MC. JUST A CUSTOMIZABLE CHARACTER THAT ISN'T A CARDBOARD CUTOUT LIKE CORRIN. EVEN ROBIN HAD MORE PERSONALITY

If they do marriage again, give it more gameplay implications. That spouse class change in fates was a great idea, more shit like that

>>378725419
/thread

>>378723993
>MC that's not of royal blood that has to impress/earn the trust of nobles.
>Different routes depending on how well you do during a chapter, not all chapters though.
>A antagonist that has more depth than just being possessed or some shit.

>>378724297
Kill yourself Fatescancer

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>>378721836
>-Weapon Durability vs Infinite Durability
Infinite, but don't let weapon drawbacks become as huge as Fates'. Most of the S rank weapons were crap because of their huge drawbacks, and silver weapons hurt too much to use often.
>-Weapon Triangle, (or Fates' WT)
Fates WT is good, but I'd like to see light magic and the magic triangle return.
>-Innate/Equipable skills vs learnable skills vs weapon skills
Innate/equippable and combat arts.
>-GBA canto vs Tellius/Jugdral canto
Tellius/jugdral canto. More options for both you and the AI.
>-Rescue
Absolutely.
>-Stamina
No.
>-Capturing
sure, but don't let ever generic be recuruitable. Just take their shit and let 'em go.
>-Attack Stance/Guard Stance
No.
>-Black magic
Sure.
>-Height advantage/disadvantage
Of course.
>-Weapon weight (con vs weight; or str vs weight)
I don't care either way.
>-Stat debuff
Sure, just don't make them big debuffs and absolutely don't leave Inevitable End in the game.
>-Stat buff
Maybe.
>-Status inflictions
Alright, but don't bring back the half-health affliction. Berserk is also iffy, but acceptable.
>-Scratch damage
Yes.
>-Thieves can steal items (and weapons)
Of course.
>-Reclassing
Not a chance.
>-3rd tier promotions
Sure, if the game is long enough.
>-Bonus exp
Yes.
>-Magic triangle
Absolutely.
>-Shops between chapters or within chapters
Both if limited weapon durability with low-level stuff purchasable between chapters and special/more powerful items in the armory shops in the maps.
>-Fog of war
No.

>>378710806
Fanservice with improvements, just like with fates.
Also give a promotion to the people who created Nohr's maps and let them work on it.

>>378725419
>Shit maps
Oh dear god no.

>>378726185
I always had an idea on how to balance out inevitable end. Just make it so that the restore staff not only can it remove status inflictions it can also removes stat debuffs. The restore staff would also remove the half-health affliction.

I'm almost done with Birthright, what game should I play after? This is my first one

>>378726732
I missed having Restore staves back in Conquest. It would have been incredibly useful.
But yeah, I agree with your suggestion.

>-Weapon Durability vs Infinite Durability
Keep weapon durability
>-Weapon Triangle, (or Fates' WT)
Keep weapon triangle
>-Innate/Equipable skills vs learnable skills vs weapon skills
Innate/Equipable
>-GBA canto vs Tellius/Jugdral canto
Tellius
>-Rescue
Yes
>-Stamina
No
>-Capturing
Yes
>-Attack Stance/Guard Stance
Yes
>-Black magic
Yes
>-Height advantage/disadvantage
Yes
>-Weapon weight (con vs weight; or str vs weight)
Con vs weight
>-Stat debuff
Yes
>-Statt buff
Yes
>-Status inflictions
Yes
>-Scratch damage
No
>-Thieves can steal items (and weapons)
Yes
>-Reclassing
Yes
>-3rd tier promotions
Yes
>-Bonus exp
Sure
>-Magic triangle
Yes
>-Shops between chapters or within chapters
Between
>-Fog of war
Yes

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>>378721836
At the moment what I want most is for every future FE game to have some variation of Mila's Turnwheel. I can't believe it took them this long to implement a mechanic that lets you get units back without resetting the whole chapter or having them magically come back to life at the end of the battle so you can't learn from your bad move.
I'd also really like a modified Fates weapon triangle with the magic triangle and a ranged weapons triangle instead of all magic and all ranged weapons being the same color.
As far as what I don't want, no fucking time traveling children, no fucking pair up, and less fucking complicated class changes.

>>378727250
How were the class changes complicated?

Can we please remove some of the fucking RNG from the levelling up system once and for all ? I understand nostalgia but I think it's about time for that shit to fucking go.
Like give a character some kind of "focus" growth you can select every other level and a minimum stat increase so that you don't get shitty +1 HP levels ?
That way you could actually balance maps better so that you don't have to account for players with shitty luck.

>>378727332
They haven't always been but in Fates and Awakening they're needlessly convoluted. Everyone can become a fucking bazillion different classes but they're only ever good in like one or two so why even have the other hundred fucking options?

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>>378726804
If you wish to continue with Fates, then go for Conquest and then Revelation if you so desire.
Otherwise, the common "first games to play" are 7 (GBA, "Fire Emblem"),8 (GBA, "Sacred Stones"), or 9 (GCN, "Path of Radiance").

7 has limited resources(unless you arena abuse), but is a fairly easy game.
8 has unlimited resources thanks to the Tower and is even easier, with a world map.
9 has limited resources, but rewards bonus exp after each chapter for completing certain objectives. The bonus exp can be freely distributed among any of your units.

Or if you want to try something a bit different, you can try Shadow Dragon. It's barebones in terms of characterization and has limited reources, but has plenty of tactix and is a good one to get out of the way quickly.

>>378727496
I found it pretty fun in Fates, gave pleny of replay options. Also different classes give access to different skills.

>>378727250
If the Mila's Turnwheel mechanic returns I hope it has less charges on it or that it can only take you back two turns, Otherwise I won't be in fear of losing my units.

>>378727421
someone post the ike "leveling up" webm

>>378727250
Oh yeah one last thing, they'd better let us raise the difficulty in the next one. Echoes on normal got retardedly easy halfway through and I'm pissed I can't make it harder.

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>>378727421
I'm actually surprised Fixed Mode hasn't made a return yet. It was a neat option.

>>378727562
As far as I'm concerned it's just something I have to google before I make a decision so I don't royally fuck someone over, and that isn't fun to me at all.

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>>378727706

>>378728281
Shit like this is why the IP almost died.

>>378728281
perfect

>>378720461
Just imagine using the HD rumble and the Switch's portability to feel your waifu's hand out in public.

>>378720461
>>378728715

I got some good news for you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHjaDbHkT6o

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>>378729093
Let me know when I can hold best girl's hand.

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>>378728281
This shit happened to me two levels in a row

>>378728360
Its funny though; the old games Kaga did are known for having low growths but they always had ways to mitigate it, like FE2's grinding, or the starspheres, or even just having low caps.

>>378721836
-Weapon Durability vs Infinite Durability
Degrading
-Weapon Triangle, (or Fates' WT)
WT
-Innate/Equipable skills vs learnable skills vs weapon skills
Equip Skills
-GBA canto vs Tellius/Jugdral canto
GBA
-Rescue
No
-Stamina
No
-Capturing
No
-Attack Stance/Guard Stance
No
-Black magic
No
-Height advantage/disadvantage
No
-Weapon weight (con vs weight; or str vs weight)
No
-Stat debuff
Yes
-Statt buff
Yes
-Status inflictions
No
-Scratch damage
No
-Thieves can steal items (and weapons)
Yes
-Reclassing
Meh
-3rd tier promotions
Yes but not story locked
-Bonus exp
Yes
-Magic triangle
Obviously
-Shops between chapters or within chapters
Between
-Fog of war
Yes