MGS5: SLEEPWALKER

Paging Dr. Caramel

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>>378684028

>>378684028
caramel begone you're not welcome here

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So is Caramel an insider or just some aspie?

>>378684028
Stop. Making. This. Thread.

>>378686736
you pretended you're an insider a few threads ago with that image
lmaooo

>>378687043

Yeah, but at least I admit it.

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Death Stranding is Silent Hills.
TPP has one more ending where we revisit Camp Omega.
The real MGS5 has not yet been released.
Kojima was never fired.

>>378686736
hes just an sutist.

>>378686736
He's Kojima

>>378687104
Caramel is simply preaching what he believes in.
Why don't you...let the world be?

>2014
>Kojima Productions reaches 30% of MGS V development
>Internal issues happen at KONAMI
>Kojima's worries about the completion of the game start
>2015
>Silent hills is canceled
>KONAMI states MGS V TPP won't be affected by latest rumors about the internal discussions
>Kojima's dismissal rumors start to surface
>Kojima tricks his best programmer into a promotion and contacts Sergio Canavero to brainwash him into believe he is Kojima.
>Phantom Kojima takes charge of Kojima Productions and resumes MGS V development while Real Kojima starts working on MGS 5 on KONAMI's basement
>MGS V TPP is released
>Real Kojima contacts Dorito Pope and tells him about the plan and the existence of his phantom
>YongYea (A Hideo Kojima drone) starts propaganda war spreading missinformation about every Kojima related rumor under Real Kojima orders
>Phantom Kojima is fired by Konami and eventually closes a contract with Sony
>2016
>Phantom Kojima establishes Sony Kojima productions along Yoji Shinkawa and members from the real KojiPro
>Phantom Kojima and SKojipro begin Death Stranding delevopment
>First DS trailer is released
>2017
>The Kojima VS KONAMI war is target audience and proves media lays on Kojima side
>A random tripfag called Caramel starts shitposting on 4chan and real Kojima lays eyes on him
>E3, First DS gameplay is revealed and surprises the audience.
>KONAMI releases Metal Gear Survive and the 4 users of /Neverbegameover buy all the copies
>2018
>Close to the release date of DS, Kojima, in order to cover up his tracks sends the yakuza ninja who killed Fukushima to infiltrate SKojipro and kills Kojima's Phantom
>Real Kojima takes command on Sony Kojima productions and transfers Metal Gear IP to Sony secretly
>KONAMI recruites Caramel
>Real Kojima publishes MGS 5 and DS
>KONAMI sends Caramel to destroy KojiPro and real Kojima
>Caramel infiltrates successfully and ends up killing himself infront of Kojima because some sort of ruse didnt happen
>2019
>Hideo Kojima dies.

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>>378687123
Shut up faggot, or you will wake up Todd.

>>378687475
New Vegas is the best Fallout.

>>378687646
I've never played a Fallout game, if I were to start which should I play first?

>>378687475
I downloaded Fallout 4 when it was free on Steam and applied a crack in order to keep playing

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>>378687475
fallout 4 is bad, even with dlc

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Everytime I see this damn thread.

Thank me later.

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Please ignore the WW2 iconography in PT and Death Stranding, it surely means nothing.

>>378687738
New Vegas

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TPP is a coma nightmare / VR simulation. Sergio said he'll use VR to teach his patient how to move post-surgery. This ceiling fan only exists in two locations of the game. The hospital and during Shining Lights. But during Shining Lights, the fan does not exist during gameplay, it only spawns during the cutscene. It's reality bleeding into the nightmare / VR.

>>378684028
Reminder:
>Lost of people that need to be "in on the ruse" for Caramel's ruse to be possible
>Kojima
>Del Toro
>Doritos Pope
>Mads
>Daryl
>Hayter and several other MGS VAs
>the Ford Automobile company, along side the people that wrote, directed produced and ok'ed the commercial
>Doctor Canavero and the crippple he is apparently performing his operation on.
>Konami and all it's investors and shareholders
>a couple hundred Konami employees besides any marketing and outsourced workers they might use
>the Team Silent guys
>Sony, along all it's investors and shareholders
>Loud Roar
>many more I'm probably forgetting

>>378687475
Chris Avellone is twice the man you are, literally and figuratively

>>378688505
>>the Ford Automobile company, along side the people that wrote, directed produced and ok'ed the commercial
Ford obviously have a marketing deal with Konami, doesn't mean they know about the ruse, retard. One of Konami (or Kojima's) demands for marketing rights was using a set guideline for one of their commercials, which was Le Fantom.

>>Konami and all it's investors and shareholders
Konami can be as vague as "we're continuing our gaming division and top brands" or can just say "we're announcing Silent Hills and MGS5 at E3". What a shock, no company would dare do such an evil thing, announce two games? Oh, the humanity.
>Loud Roar
They didn't even know what they were doing their songs for. They didn't see or know what Death Stranding was before the trailer aired at E3.
>Sony, along all it's investors and shareholders
That's not how it works, kiddo.

Toro, Reedus, Hayter and Mads aren't going to spoil it because they respect Kojima as an artist and are actively working on the project. Why the fuck would they spoil it? Not to mention Reedus and Mads don't give a shit about vidya, it's just a pay cheque to them, but like all of their work they wont ruin it. Dorito Pope is a close friend of Kojima, why would he ruin it?

Made me laugh when Mads was being interviewed for some movie, the interviewer started to probe him on Death Stranding. As soon as he dared Mads to just tease an tiny piece of trivia about the game Mads immediately locked up and shot the guy down at the first mention of Death Stranding. He knows Kojima doesn't want a word out about this game.

>>378687738
1, then 2, then New Vegas. Optional titles after the fact are Tactics, 3, and 4. Avoid Fallout BoS like the plague

I feel like Caramel would fit right in on video game message boards after MGS2 hit and he didn't get what he wanted

>>378689396
I liked MGS2 even when it came out.

>>378689073
If this was all Kojima's ruse from the very beginning, how come MGSV was marketed as the final game of the franchise?

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>>378689559
Like MGS4?

>>378689539
Never said you didn't. Just that it seems like you're making wacky theories to compensate for the fact that you didn't like TPP.

I'd agree with you on part of that sentiment. I wish the actual ending was there, but I still really enjoyed MGSV

>>378689634
MGS4 was actually planned as the final game of the series.

>>378689073
>One of Konami (or Kojima's) demands for marketing rights was using a set guideline for one of their commercials, which was Le Fantom.
What proof do you have for any of this?
Why would Ford agree to do an expensive with a mainstream actor, several special effects and scene transitions between James Bondian locations just for the rights of doing 2 short online only ads featuring quickly redubbed MGS cutscenes?
And what did Ford offer Akira Toriyama and Naoko Takeuchi for the rights do ads in the same style for the same campaign?

>>378689695
Well TPP isn't.

>>378689634
what the fuck does "V has come to" even mean

>>378689754
So why was it marketed as such?

>>378689634
It's the point in which the series reaches a complete cycle. There's basically a decade between the events of MGSV and the events of MG.

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>>378684618
>>378685060
Saddens me that all his saltiness and bitching was 100% legit in the end.

>>378689073
Hey faggot, you never answered me yesterday when I asked you to show me this official statement from Konami denying rumors that they were transitioning into a pachinko/soccer/mobile games only company.
And anything before January of this year is invalidated because their is a statement on their website from then that literally says they are focusing only on pachinko/soccer/mobile games.

Caramel is gonna be sooo blown the fuck out this E3.

>>378684028
ZIMBABWE

>>378689804
It is. Kojima made it shitty because he wanted people to stop asking him to make more games. In fact he did the same thing with MGS4, he tried to make it shitty so people would stop asking him to make more metal gear but it backfired.

Also, these threads are purely to bait Carafag at this point and laugh at his utter stupidity. It's pretty fucking hilarious.

>>378689742
Listen here little boy, the plot of Le Fantom mirrors the plot of TPP, have you even bothered to watch the fucking commercial or is too long for your ADHD kiddo brain to take in?
>Why would Ford agree to do an expensive with a mainstream actor, several special effects and scene transitions between James Bondian locations just for the rights of doing 2 short online only ads featuring quickly redubbed MGS cutscenes?
Because it's equally as expensive and well produced as any modern commercial is? If you hadn't played TPP the Ford commercial feels like a regular car commercial. It's not hindering their desire to advertise their product.

Stop trying to talk about grown up things, kiddo.

>>378689804
Why are they withholding the Camp Omega ending? To ruse you, retard.

>>378689806
Except TPP fucks up the series timeline beyond comprehension. It doesn't complete the series, it ruins it.

>>378690063
>Why are they withholding the Camp Omega ending? To ruse you, retard.
This has nothing to do with my question, fucko.

>>378689913
Caramel will honestly never admit to being wrong.
He will just pick apart the inevitable DS trailer we are getting this E3 and pushing the reveal to a later date.

>>378689913
This. I argued with the kiddo all day and realized how warped his definitions and whats canon is. All i can do is wait, not point wasting any more energy.

>>378688505
You cant even spell half these names right and you're trying to mock someone else.

Haha, fucking retard.

David Hayter did nothing wrong

>>378689792
Venom has come to.

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>>378689913
>>378690048
The ass pain from this board will be legendary this E3.

>>378690238
come to what?

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>>378690235
>David Hayter did nothing

/v/ will be thoroughly btfo at E3.

can't wait to see you no fun fags squirm.

>>378690063
>If you hadn't played TPP the Ford commercial feels like a regular car commercial
Maybe 'cuz it is you dumb motherfucker

>>378690063
>TPP fucks the series
No it doesn't. It fits neatly into the timeline with a couple of twists that don't actually affect later canon

>>378690463
a) Zero is best buds with Big Boss
b) Zero is in a coma before the events of MG1
RIP in piss Metal Gear canon.

>>378690353
It means he just woke up you dip.

>>378690463
>No it doesn't. It fits neatly into the timeline with a couple of twists that don't actually affect later canon
If you honestly believe that, you're almost as insane as Caramel.

>>378684028
Stop making fucking repeat threads you fucktards, and you wonder why /v/ has gone to complete shit.

>it's a caramel conveniently ignores all the posts that btfo his ass episode
every time

>>378690235
He did Old Snake voice. The most horrible voice acting in gaming history.

>>378690513
1) Zero and conscious Big Boss never interacted in the game
2) Zero being in a coma before MG1 doesn't affect the timeline at all

>>378690296
So, you promise you will erase yourself from existence if you are wrong? (you are)

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>>378684618
>>378685060

>tfw even if this turns out to be one big ruse Hayter will still be eternally BTFO

>>378690698
>1) Zero and conscious Big Boss never interacted in the game
Yet Big Boss's first question would be when waking up is "why the fuck am i still alive" and "why the fuck is there a body double of me".
>2) Zero being in a coma before MG1 doesn't affect the timeline at all
Big Boss was using Outer Heaven and Zanzibarland to stage a coup against Zero. Zero sent Solid Snake in to kill Big Boss, ordered Paramedic to turn Frank Jaegar into the Cyborg Ninja. He also retrieved Big Boss's body for the nanomachine coma. Fucking baboon.

>>378690614
His Peace Walker voice was far worse.

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Dorito Pope also slipped a fetus out of his stomach. When you hear the middle of Sony's conference? Fucking undeniable at this point. Kojima Producions is the obvious forcing player) to travel between the fucking entity in Japan's registration bureau or anywhere else in the radio talk to feed misinformation yet you still falling tv show but was disappointed to make that, the fucking entity in Japan's registration bureau or any fucking event in the gameplay, zero is literally a horror game.
Death Stranding. Nothing I'm sure one of they could make music for his team members in Twitter. The game when Snake into Heaven, Big Boss is the one who sent Snake sees Big Boss

>>378690463
false
flag

white piggu go home

>>378690513
Kojima is a terrible solo writer and was constantly stumbling and retconing shit due to never thinking even half the shit he made up through, what else is new?

>>378690853
>muh Zero

theres others in Cipher you dingus, Sigint and Paramedic for instance, who you even mention.
Zero being in a coma does not affect anything, sorry kid.

>>378691086
I know Caramel is. after a post as retarded as >>378690853
it's obvious

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>>378690998
>Dorito Pope also slipped a fetus out of his stomach

>>378691263
So you admit TPP makes no sense and does not fit into the MG timeline.

>>378691327
That's not an argument. Seems like you're ass pained because I just humiliated you.

>>378691324
It is said specifically Zero had Big Boss put into the coma. It is said specifically Big Boss was staging a coup against Zero. Zero is the only one who had motivation to put Boss into the coma.

>>378691324
And let's not forget TPP's timeline lists Paramedic's death incorrectly. When Robert Peeler was informed he responded with "we're not currently looking to share any further information about that character during this time".

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I like Sutherland better than hayter

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This guy is a parody of the neogaf invaded /v/, right? I refuse to believe that nobody can be as unironically unintelligent as Caramel without being from South Central Los Angeles

>>378691606
holy fucking confirmation bias

>>378691606
Every time I ask you this >>378690771 but you never answer, so what's it gonna be? Yes or No :^)

>>378691516
>It is said specifically Zero had Big Boss put into the coma.

Its not though. Big Boss says JD did at the end of MGS4

>>378692104
>Its not though. Big Boss says JD did at the end of MGS4
No he did not you fucking imbecile. The AIs weren't running until after Boss dies.

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>>378690998
>Dorito Pope also slipped a fetus out of his stomach.

>>378691516
>So you admit TPP makes no sense and does not fit into the MG timeline
Yes
Much like how some people feel like the Prequel Trilogy makes no sense and does not fit into the SW timeline, does that make it all a grand conspiracy and a ruse?
No it just means the writers were absolutely terrible at being consistent. I know I am using a lot of star wars analogues here but its only because how it fits, Kojima fucked up, just admit he fucked up, and isn't a terribly good writer and needs people to keep his shit in check because as talented as a game developer he might be, hes' NOT the one man show people constantly make him out to be.

>>378692198
BIG BOSS SAYS IT YOU RETARD
How about playing the games or you know using youtube to rewatch cutscenes.

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>>378687646
>>378687923
>>378687943
>>378688557
What was that, anon?

>>378691768
>>378692198

>>378692318
You're misremembering it. Why would an AI put Boss into a nanomachine coma and make Boss's DNA a key to itself? Why would it decide to make itself vulnerable? Zero did it because he regretted killing Big Boss. He wanted to create a "messiah", he "wanted to bind himself to his friend".

>>378692481
>>378691768

>>378692359
I pirated Skyrim: Remastered Edition, because I thought that if I liked it I would then buy it. I didn't like it, and I didn't buy it.

>>378688096
glad i'm not the only one

>>378688230

its a fucking ceiling fan you retard

https://youtu.be/L7p7hOltWLg?t=3m33s

>I was implanted with nanomachines... kept in a state of eternal sleep by JD the proxy AI

>>378692481
>watch video of it 10 seconds ago
>Youre misremembering it

https://youtu.be/QL4hA0vM4a0?t=3m44s

LOL

I actually prefer David Hayter to Mr Drunkman Mumbling Words Sutherland

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZGXeJMT8tI

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>>378692632
Read what my post said and use that brain of yours, kiddo.

>>378692721
>>378691768

I can't believe you people are losing your shit over something that has 0 known gameplay.

You never learn, /v/.

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>>378692703
>>378692658
18:54 and listen when Boss and Eva leave the church. Zero specifically did it. Zero did not set up the AIs until after Boss dies. Yes the AI was managing his coma, it didn't put him into it. Stop trying to pretend you know anything about Metal Gear, you're fucking idiots.

https://youtu.be/CfAHlnnOvSU?t=1136

>>378692969
>>378690771

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>>378690998
>Dorito Pope also slipped a fetus out of his stomach.

Caramel confirmed for our Louise Mensch. Where everything to her is a "Russian connection", everything to Caramel is "A ruse because reasons" It makes perfect sense in his deranged mind, but to the average(See: Far more intelligent than Caramel), he sounds like a moron.

>>378687123
I don't know why you drag these images out over the course over a whole thread. If you're going to spam threads, just get it over with

>>378692969
This implies Eva knew the final extent of the clusterfuck of a plan.
And she very clearly fucking didn't. Every thought that Eva might be wrong and Big Boss, who was at the fucking epicenter of the thing, would know more about precisely happened?

>>378692721
>kiddo

>>378693074
hahaha what if he got pregnant? wouldn't that be weird? haha just kidding lol

>>378692969
Does Konami's MGS3 pachislot disaster have anything to do with the ruse or did they just make a bad decision with wasting those beautiful cutscenes on a slot machine?

>>378691516
>So you admit TPP makes no sense and does not fit into the MG timeline.
that's just because it's a crap story. imagine reaching this hard to justify a disappointing game lol.

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>>378692573
You what?

>>378693373
>And she very clearly fucking didn't.
Why wouldn't she? She was accurate about everything. Why would an AI put Boss into a nanomachine coma? It has not motive, no empathy. Why would an AI make itself vulnerable by making Boss's DNA A KEY TO ITSELF? Why would an AI do that? Why would decide to make itself vulnerable? Fucking retard. You'll continue to ignore this.
>Big Boss, who was at the fucking epicenter of the thing, would know more about precisely happened?
From Big Boss himself
>after all is said and done i cant help but wonder...did zero really hate me? or did he just fear me? it's too late to ask him now
Get fucked.

>>378693752
what are you even trying to say? what are you trying to accomplish at this point?

>>378688230
No, it isn't you fucking freak. Stop this.

>>378688113
Should I ignore the Kindergarten Cop iconography in Silent Hill, too, or does that mean anything?

remember in mgs3 when snake dreamed about being a vampire or something. that was kind of neat

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>>378693891
Is your poor little sphincter that sore over you being wrong? Don't worry, I'm sure your mommy will kiss it better.

>>378694013
>>378690771

just filter this fag and wait till E3

>>378684028
I don't want to believe

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>>378693904
I cannot help you blind people if you do not wish to see.

>>378694243
>>378690771

>>378693658
I left negative reviews of Fallout 4 on Steam where I recommended that the reader buy New Vegas instead

>>378694013
You think, maybe, they could just be references? I know you think Kojima is a master ruseman, but you're deluding yourself. What are trying to infer with this image?

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>>378694372
Camp Omega ending is being released soon. There's an update for TPP scheduled halfway through Sony's conference.

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>>378690998
THE AI HAS GONE ROGUE

>>378694243
This is the exactly the kind of smug response I expect from people like you and FIB. Why are you so sure of yourself?

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Dorito Pope also slipped up in the coma? It has not Metal Gear 1. In MG1 Big Boss. He marketing really agitated in the bag, hence two games? Oh, the humanity
Toro, Reedus could be and ALWAYS HAS BEEN. Above then it's actually a horror game from triple AAA game when Mads to just the neck of his team got turned to Camp Omega (as Kojima will then you into a coma before than ever before the one speaking to along with an evil thing but if they could make months Konami (or Kojima's presentation was issued by Zero.
Silent Hills and MGS5 at E3". What we've seen in to kill himself. It makes no fucking imbecile. The OFFICIAL story is his contract expired, with E3 right around the codec. So Venom know about how he got involvement was an action game like Uncharted but he was put into the Cyborg Ninja. He also said specifically stated in the sky and profits have done nothing I'm sure your poor little boy.
It's literally not recorded as an artist and are actively work they'll remove nukes obtained because that brain of yours, kiddo.
Why would he ruins it.
Ford obviously

>>378694541
What would Sony get from announcing it at their conference? Exclusive early-access?
Saging for good measure, cause I know you're a mental ill tranny who's paranoid and most likely a schizo.

>>378694659
Silent Hills as a timed exclusive. And their conference will go down as the most shocking moment in the industry.

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>>378694654
Colonel are you ok?

>>378694541
From Kojima? Who isn't involved with Konami anymore? I know you *believe* he's still employed by them, but some people *believe* fucking kids is ok too. You're an idiot masquerading as an 'intellectual'.

>>378693752
>Why wouldn't she? She was accurate about everything. Why would an AI put Boss into a nanomachine coma? It has not motive, no empathy. Why would an AI make itself vulnerable by making Boss's DNA A KEY TO ITSELF? Why would an AI do that? Why would decide to make itself vulnerable? Fucking retard. You'll continue to ignore this.


>ignoring the entire plot of Peace Walker and The Boss AI

>>378694541
Source?

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>>378694654
Dorito Pope also slipped up in the coma?

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>>378694863
There's no confirmation he was fired, it's all second hand sources and rumors, the same thing he warned you about in MGS2. The official story is his contract expired and no word on whether or not it was renewed.

>>378694881
GW is just an AI. The Boss AI was the supposed recreation of The Boss's mind.

>>378695073
You still haven't answered my question from yesterday when I asked you to provide the official statement from Konami said they aren't focusing exclusively on pachinko/soccer/mobile games.

>>378687123
KOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOJJJJJJIIIIIIIIIIMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>378695073
My only question to you is: What are you going to do if this doesn't happen? If E3 ends and nothing is announced. Will you publicly admit you were wrong?

>>378694659
Sleepwalker is PlayStation exclusive.

Caramel's bullshit isn't gonna happen.

Btw Caramel when you angrily reply to me trying to explain how you have proof, pls confirm to us what you'll do should your bullshit be proven as bullshit when nothing is mentioned at E3. Everyone's suggesting you kill yourself.

can someone find me Kojima Productions address?
'cause i literally cant

>>378695073
Hey bro, I'd just like to ask you, if Hayter is in on the ruse, then how come Kiefer voices BB in GZ?

If Phantom Pain is just VR or a hallucination, how come Venom (or BB) know of Operation Intrude N312 and N313 at the end of the game (the operations only happened in 1995)?

And why did they create tons of concept art, unused assets, and a 20 minute long unused cutscene that shows serious changes in the dynamic of character relationships in MGS, such as the interactions between Venom, Ocelot, Liquid and Mantis?

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Does anyone else think head transplant doc looks cool as fuck?

Look at his shirt, so nice

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>>378688113
>WW2 iconography in PT

>>378694739
Where is the proof faggot?

>>378695073
>just an AI
>made by Sigint and Strangelove, two of the smartest minds in the world

>>378694013
you're projecting haha

>>378695508
he does look cool as fuck but his book and timing are pretty spooky
those chapters called "Heaven", "Gemini" (Twins) and shit like that. I remember seeing it back in 2014 when we had MGS5 threads and I genuinely believed he was tied to the ruse.

I still don't know if he's actually gonna go through with it or not. Apparently the russian guy backed out and he's now gonna do it on a chink or something.

It'd also be pretty weird if he was part of the ruse, considering I've seen his upcoming-transplant covered on major news, even on natinoal TV in my shit country. Would be funny to see Kojima troll mainstream media like that.

>>378695750
Yes, so why would it make Boss's DNA a key itself? Why would it make itself vulnerable?

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>>378694243
>If you put together PT and Death Stranding together you get a PTDS
>But if you flip DS for no reason then you get SD

erretiem

>>378695807
you're thinking too hard. the overall mgs plot is held together with duct tape. if you want good writing read a book or something. none of this is worth it. sorry.

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>>378690998
>>378694654

>>378695807
Why would Volgin die from lightning

>>378695967
>you're thinking too hard
>but let me do mental gymnasts to prove TPP does make sense and fits into the MG timeline

>>378687104
Was it really you? Holly fuck, things are getting weird when I meet the same anon..."again".

>>378694013
m-mommy? can I have m-milkies?

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>>378694654
You okay, colonel?

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>>378687404

>>378696170
>mental gymnastics
Nice projection.

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I want to take a wormwhole back to 1987 and show Kojima these threads, imagine how he would react

>>378696667
He would plan multiple ruses to span multiple games. But the complexity would drive him mad.

>>378696170
you're putting words into my mouth. mgsv doesn't make sense or fit into the timeline, but it's not some inter-corporation real world conspiracy. it's just crap writing.

the series is full of retcons, even mgs3 takes a hammer to the previously established timeline.

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MGS6: MOONWALKER

You will never feel happiness, Caramel.

Oh god the leaks are coming through!!!

Cause someone almost spilled the beans

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zbkvf9gMJRY&t=25m00s

>>378697050
I'll be on top of the world this E3.

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>E3 2017
>Konami presentation
>"and now for our feature presentation"
>room goes dark
>MGS5 is unveiled
>Crowd goes insane
>"And now to introduce the producer!"
>Its this man

>>378694541
>Camp Omega ending is being released soon. There's an update for TPP scheduled halfway through Sony's conference.

If this is real I swear to fucking god I'll eat my own shit live on Twitch with a Kojima mask on fucking screencap this

>>378697246
>>E3 2017
>>Konami presentation

Anon, I...

What if the Ruse was he wanted you to think it was all a ruse? Wouldn't that be the ultimate ruse?

>>378697248
>update drops
>it's a minor balance patch and nothing more

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>>378694541
>There's an update for TPP scheduled halfway through Sony's conference

I need a source on this. That could be the most damning evidence out there.

>>378696663
>nice projection
nice projection

>>378697204
you'll be doing mental gymnastics even after death stranding's actual release, pal. anyway, tell us more about yourself. how old are you, what's your day job? got a girlfriend?

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Do you guys think that like

like

Even if the ruse is not real and Kojima really turned the page and isn't trying to troll

like

people will still transform everything around him as some sort of conspiracy until he finally dies

and even after then?

>>378697485
You got me

>>378697553
yeah pretty much

>>378697204
You'll be hanging yourself after this E3

>>378691606
source? that's interesting

>>378697204
Hey bro, I'd just like to ask you, if Hayter is in on the ruse, then how come Kiefer voices BB in GZ?

If Phantom Pain is just VR or a hallucination, how come Venom (or BB) know of Operation Intrude N312 and N313 at the end of the game (the operations only happened in 1995)?

And why did they create tons of concept art, unused assets, and a 20 minute long unused cutscene that shows serious changes in the dynamic of character relationships in MGS, such as the interactions between Venom, Ocelot, Liquid and Mantis?

>>378697553
Of course they will. They'll think it's part of a larger meta-ruse

>>378697553
When Kojima dies it will be the conspiracy for the ages. Some JFK level shit

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>yfw after years the fucking madman was right all along

I'm interested in some mods for TPP but I haven't beaten the game yet. Should I do that first or does it not matter?

Also, I played through most of the game without listening to tapes. Should I have or did I not actually miss anything?

Guys, it's not DS that's MGS5, it's DS2: the sequel to Death Stranding, that's MGS5. DS is just the teaser to the REAL ruse, which will begin in full swing about 4-5 years from now. He's just wetting our appetites, and DS serves to set up the necessary backstory for the ruse to really make sense.

It'll be funny if Sleepwalker ends up being Bloodborne 2. You know the game actually about dreams.

>>378697553
every project he will ever work on again, every shirt he wears, every band he likes, every meal he eats will forever be scruntinized by at least a handful of autists.

It has to suck but he really did bring this on himself

>>378697246
>>378697298
There's also the part where Tak left Konami years before that.

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>>378696031
Big Boss threw off his Kuwabara Kuwabara schedule.

>>378697458
Everyone says about this scheduled, but no one can prove.

>>378697986
at some point he should just come out and for the good of his fans say that there's no ruse about some things

but he won't because he's building the sales for DS

>>378692632

I'm not saying I agree or disagree with him, but like, your reading comprehension is truly fucking shit, anon.

>>378697986
>do a ruse once
>suddenly every autist is convinced everything is a ruse
Shit wasn't even really a ruse.

>>378697553
>Do fairly clever bait and switch once
>Do a noticeably intricate but completely obvious mislead like 10 years later
>Every fucking autist now thinks you're a master ruseman and the man with the plan and an absolute avant garde genius and that everything you say or do is loaded in order to set you up for something

>>378698223
Imagine how fucking exhausting it would be to live your life as a master ruseman

>>378698181
I need a quick rundown of every ruse Kojima pulled

>>378698146
If he denies people would just think he's "rusing" them. Hell, even some of caramels evidence is how Kojima smiled or made a face when answering a question.

Aside from keeping this going to build DS buzz I honestly think the language barrier is to blame for a lot of this

>>378698223
>>Do a noticeably intricate but completely obvious mislead like 10 years later

which 1 was that?

>>378698430
>I honestly think the language barrier is to blame for a lot of this
huh good point never looked at it this way

>>378698420
16 years ago he swapped models in a game demo

Legitimately worried for the well being of caramel when he gets eternally btfo after his e3 pipe dreams don't come to fruition. Convincing yourself about all this nonsensical bullshit and then to have it not happen would take a toll on your mental well being. I know for a fact it would make me question reality a little.

>>378698435
The Phantom Pain/Joakim Mogren "ruse" that everyone figured out the same day the trailer aired.

>>378698562
>The shape of ruses to come

>>378698570
Occam's Razor.

A delusional tranny and a pedophile flip have decided to go off the deep end where Konami and Sony secretly teamed up to commit market fraud for youtube clicks.

>>378698706
Oh no! Not me! I never lost control!

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>>378684028

I just want to say that Caramel is either a fucking idiot or a troll, but I appreciate him for bringing Metal Gear threads back.

I missed them dearly.

>>378696031
Because the spirit of the warrior will always be with you.

Speaking of which, Raiden is Ocelot's son. We saw in MGS4 and Rising that he inherited his grandfather's lightning control and telepathy.

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>>378697458

The official metal gear Twitter has made a post referencing how they are going to be taking measures to cut down on illegally gained nukes (E.g cheated in) in TPP. Some people have interpreted this as an incoming update.

Nobody is entirely sure though.

>>378698609
I had never played any of the games before when I saw that trailer and even I knew it was a MGS game.

>>378698951
No there is literally an update scheduled halfway through the conference.

>>378699036
Proof you FAGGOT?

>>378698181
>fake dev company
>fake plot
>fake game name
use your noggin

>>378698951
They just want the FOB nukes to be done so that when the cutscene plays they can turn off everything related to FOBs.

>>378699108
this

>>378699036
Also, Cthulhu will emerge from the Bermuda Triangle and grant you eyes so you can see that Kojima is indeed Kosm

here's my proof

>>378699036
How about actually posting it instead of talking out of your mentally ill ass

>>378699036

You keep saying that but you have no proof. I'm semi sure there will be some kind of further updates to TPP in the future but I don't know where you are getting that the next one will be during the Sony conference.

>>378699036
You mean right around when they'll be showing off remastered Demon's Souls?

>>378698907
https://web.archive.org/web/20150130201810/http://www.konami.jp/kojima_pro/english/dl/item_ota.html

>>378687475
I pirated Fallout 4

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Didn't this tranny get publicly banned already? why is he back shitting every single MG thread?

>>378699108

Fobs were such a mistake. Fuck the mutiplayer, I'd rather there be single player FOB raids by warlords or nationstates you've pissed off throughout the game.

Just imagine a full scale spetsnaz raid that you have to defend yourself from.

You've been singlehandedly fucking over these people for months and they know where you live, you're not a nation, there's no declaration of war.

They just send their attack choppers and a few dozen soldiers to fuck your shit up. Like XOF's attach, but you don't have your pants down and actually get to fight back.

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>>378699036

>>378699448
We need ZOE3 guy to come back. Notice how the second ZOE3 guy showed up the tranny got triggered so hard it got banned? It was a great thread.

>>378699625
Got a link? I have to fucking see this

>>378699036
You just took what some random fag told you in one of these threads and took it at face value without even bothering with a quick google search.
Again.

>>378699802
This nigga just showed up saying shit like how Death is the End and Anubis is death and Mads is actually Nohman and the baby is Dingo inside of ADA and metatron simulations are creating the WW2 battlefield and shit. Even said the E3 trailer for Death Stranding trailer would have Apollo 11 covered in goop flying to the moon past a station and then have Ludens appear and look at the sun to see Jehuty then Anubis and 4 new frames.

It was fun.

I believe caramel because the ending to metal gear 5 was so bad, I want to believe it was a ruse all along.

>>378690998
Destroyed my sides.

>>378700167
I used that "Death is the End" line to find it.

https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/377174304/#377186493

There's also this one too, same day.
https://boards.fireden.net/v/thread/377263849/#377270224

>>378694654
Please post in MGS threads more often

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>SONY
>Konami
>Sonami
>Somnambulism
>Sleepwalker

>>378700453
Never go for conspiracy when incompetence is a better answer.

Post yfw Death Stranding is actually PES 2018

The biggest proof of the ruse being real it's to think that probably someone is paying money to Caramel to not stop with this.

>>378700615
This anon gets it

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>>378700428

>>378700428
god damn I love that movie

>>378700703
Conspiracy theorist do it for free. People only get paid for cover ups.

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>>378700428
>>378700720
>>378700738
Yeah me too. The biggest disappointment of MGSV was that you couldn't use grenade arrows to kill choppers. Luckily this is fixed in Survive.

What are some of the other ruses Kojima had a hand in again? I feel we could find a pattern or something.

>>378700873
The Joakim Mogren and MGS2 ones are the big ones. Otherwise most of them are playful and non-serious, like the Assassin's Creed MGS4 one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlM4W4yco-Q

>>378700873
He once only showed the first level of a game and for parts that weren't the first level he swapped assets.

He once debuted a game using a fake dev that had an anagram of his name with a title that very clearly had the Metal Gear Solid logo dimmed out in it.

He got people to buy Zone of the Enders for the MGS2 demo.

>>378700873
>>378700873
making fake studios two other times to hide the fact he was working on a project for konami

mobydick and 7780s

>>378700608
WHO?
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO?

>>378698420
>People thought MGS2 would be a straightforward sequel where you play as Solid Snake
>People thought MGSV would be good

>>378701087
Man the shareholders must have been pissed!

>>378700873
once he told his twitter followers that he would stop showing so many pictures of his meals. the next day he posted what he had for dinner

>>378692258
I want to give this Sam Stanley the Glad Hand if you catch my m e a n i n g ;)

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>>378701369
egg
egg

>>378690780
>h-heh
>m-me too
>i was in on it too
>i willfully gave up my role as snake
>can I come back now kojima?

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>>378691606
So...Erm, do you agree TPP makes more sense in the MG timeline if Snake'sRevenge for the NES is considered canon?

I mean, "Venom" does say he wants a rematch with Solid at the end of MG1, it couldnt be Big Boss because he would have no reason to blow his cover to Solid of all people.

>>378701367
Yeah, they fucking fired him right after doing it for the second time.
Seriously, if Caramel was somehow right (he isn't) that would be the biggest waste of money in the history of gme development.

>>378701857
Snake's Revenge is also the first game to indicate Big Boss was ever called "Snake" since it's Big Boss who wants revenge.

>>378697180
>It was at Kojima Studios, I can say that.

FUCKING WHY
Why would you be worried about divulging you visited Kojima Studios two years after release pf MGSV?

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>>378702059
Indeed.

I mean, there never was a missing link in the first place.

MG1's ending always stated Big Boss survived.

So...what's the missing link TPP claimed to have fixed?

>>378702192
classic humble brag

>>378695924
FOX and XOF

I cant wait for the new Death Stranding videogame.

>>378702460
are those the two phantoms born from FOX?

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>they're multiplying

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post qts

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>>378701857
Liquid Snake says that exact dialogue just before Ocelot tortures you. Neat. Liquid really was just one big Big Boss wannabe in hindsight, wasn't he?

>>378702525
Yes you can.

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post emblems

>IN OUTER HEAVEN, MEN BECOME DEMONS
>play as the nicest man on the continent
nani

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Made me laugh when he said Kojima's) demands for marketed called 1985
>new playstation adventure game, now he's calling Death Stranding, if Big Boss are natural.
Konami can be as vague as "we're continuing our gaming division of the suicide where else in the world this E3.
No there is literally an umbilical cord is leaking imbecile. The AIs weren't going on, we promise.
>none of canavero says it will be right before for death stranding? To ruse you, retard.
Everyone will love Konami have a marketing deal with Konami, doesn't complete the bridge, all their productions."

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>>378702786
Nani? Nani dattebayo?
>>378702678
I guess.

But that's the thing
Venom Snake said this according to Kojima.

What does this mean?

>>378702678
Yeah just like Ocelot.

His clothes in MGSV even indicate that he's like Ocelot (Black shirt, red beret) trying to play as a Snake (Tigercamo pants)

He's got the superior genes of the twin snakes (just like how Ocelot is the bio son of boss) but is the rejected son (solid/naked were chosen as the memetic successors)

>>378702657
*queefs heavily*

>>378702843
You have to making this shit up

The Head transplant doctor is a fraud, right?

>>378690998
>>378694654
>>378702843
WHAT.
DOES.
IT.
MEAN?

Just shy is Big Boss the antagonist?
He seems to be generally doing good things in games with him as the protagonist.

>>378703307
Kojima is in this thread

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>>378702786
Venom Snake is more of a demon in the sense that he's a nightmare creation that shouldn't exist, he's basically Frankenstein's monster.

>>378703339
Because Kohima developed a hard on for him and didn't want him to be the bad guy anymore

>>378703701
Hi

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But what is the actual Kojima up to?

>>378702427
It was less 'how did Big Boss survive?' And more 'how did he command FOXHOUND while simultaneously being the leader of Outer Heaven?', I think, not that anyone was actually asking that.

I don't know if the rabbit hole goes quite as deep as Caramel claims, but something is very clearly fucky with some of this shit, SOMETHING is going to go down.

I've been reading these threads the last couple of days and is caramel legitimately insane or am i falling for a seriously elaborate ruse cruise?

A suicide bomber just killed 90 people in Kabul (where TPP takes place). Must be part of the RUSE!

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>>378687123
I actually believe you. Can't wait to see /v/ shit themselves when this comes true.

>>378694654
he's running an amalgamation of Caramel's past posts into a sentence scrambler or some shit lmao

>>378704281
Well, he was commanding you and Scheider by radio.

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>>378704481
Caramel is wrong about Death Stranding. It's not Silent Hill.

Aside from the media coverage fiasco surrounding Konami/Kojima and Keighley's TGA feigned melodrama, just try to think of the correlating elements between MGS and DS. I'll compile a list in a bit - but see which ones you can think of off the top of your head in the meantime.

ANYONE HAS PROVES ON THAT SCHEDULE THING?

>>378705382
nobody is made up, caramel is a lying shithead.

HOW TO BTFO CARAMEL EVERY TIME WITH NO CHANCE OF RECOVERY:
reply to him with this. he won't dare reply to you.


Hey bro, I'd just like to ask you, if Hayter is in on the ruse, then how come Kiefer voices BB in GZ?

If Phantom Pain is just VR or a hallucination, how come Venom (or BB) know of Operation Intrude N312 and N313 at the end of the game (the operations only happened in 1995)?

And why did they create tons of concept art, unused assets, and a 20 minute long unused cutscene that shows serious changes in the dynamic of character relationships in MGS, such as the interactions between Venom, Ocelot, Liquid and Mantis?

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>>378701419
;)

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>>378704280
I need more of these.

hows it going evrybowdy, it's yeeeeongyeaaaaaa

>>378705693
Or just ask him why Kojima decided to have the Decima engine bought from guerrilla if actually hasn't been fired from Konami as Caramel claims.

>this thread again

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>>378705693
He always ignore the person when doesn't have an answer

>>378702843
>>378694654
>>378690998
Best posts ITT, someone screen cap them together pls

vagina bomb

>>378705693
>if Hayter is in on the ruse, then how come Kiefer voices BB in GZ?

Because you were in the GZ simulation before waking in TPP so you can come to terms with where you are and what happened to you, so you don't go into complete PTSD related shock.

It also helps explain tech like the idroid that didn't exist in the 90's-00's in later games.

The more you think about it, in correlation with the rest of the series it makes sense.

you guys realise caramel is just a ruseman right? he'll take off his mask after e3, leaving you feel like a bunch of sillies for so easily getting mad at nothing then a week later the status quo will return

>>378707336
Caramel is Hideo Kojima

Does the motorcycle used in Le Fantome have any similarity to big boss' bike in TPP?

>>378699564
Fucking-A

hence MGSV is not part of the main canon cause the multiplayer bullshit was an outright mistake. might as well have been a fucking mobile app

>>378707702
reminder: kojima was recently outed as being a majority shareholder in the ford motor company as of 2014

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>>378707336
>Mfw at E3 kojima comes on stage and shows of DS, then hideo comes out with a bag of caramels and shows off the new MGS5 add on
>Then a translator comes out and explains how DS is silent hills and that it will tie into the MGS universe as we will see in the MGS5 add on available now on psn

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>>378702678
>HINDsight

>>378691689
So do I

>>378697931
Who is this?

>>378708948
Joe Rogaine

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it's... it's really happening, isn't it?

>>378707270
But you weren't. See, Caramel's theory is that TPP is VR, so there is no "waking up" to VR

>explain tech
AI's do not exist at all and probably never will, whereas they existed in the 70's in MGS.

The more you think about it, the more you realize it was a good business move to fire Kojima

Stop overthinking. I can guarantee you with 100% accuracy there is no ruse and never was. The disappointment comes from MGSV being unfinished and its themes not being fully fleshed out, as far as letting the player slowly become a 'demon' and the grandiose reveal that Venom=/=BB.

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Tell me all about this guy.

>>378709262
He didn't fly so good

>>378684028
RIP Bazinga man

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You people don't actually believe this, right?

Konami wouldn't go out of their way to decimate their PR just for some "le big ruse xDDDD"

>>378698929
What? When did The Sorrow use lightning?

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>>378684028
oh christ not again. i cant take another round of kojima's writing

>>378703058
ocelot wasn't rejected though. he was taken away from the boss by the philosophers

>>378709262
Seemed menacing in GZ then became another Hot Coldman

Also he is Sadornov

>>378694654
This was made using this program:

http://projects.haykranen.nl/markov/demo/

>>378704803
see
>>378710498

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>>378708127
>kojima was recently outed as being a majority shareholder in the ford motor company

No, get your facts straight. The company he holds shares in is Mitsubishi.

>>378709862
he didn't, and raiden isn't ocelot's son. ocelot is gay, and solidus murdered raiden's parents

/v/ is about to be fucking ravaged. This E3 will be one for the books.

>>378710737
>he doesn't realize Kojima os literally controlling the entire auto industry across continents
try to keep up, kiddo

>>378710737
mitsubishi is the japanese word for ford you baka gaijin

>>378689073
You conveniently ignored the Doctor and the real-life cripple who's getting operated.

>T-the doctor is fake

Actually no, Canavero has a long career and a shitton of papers published. Why would he ruin it for this ruise?

>>378709570
What else could he meant with that "maybe I'll have to get out of the industry" or whatever? One audio of a child being forced to rape? Mild torture and child soldiers? There's even a sign of anything like what he meant to have been cut off TPP?

>>378707702
Both are Triumph models, pretty suspicious

>>378712681
Because he wants to make movies you tard, he always has. He's probably referring to the upcoming MGS movie.

>>378712942
But if there's no ruse he has nothing to do with MGS or it's movie.

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>>378685060
This shit is so fucking awkward it's like a 13 year old emo kid. I fucking love how cringey it is, the dude's gone insane

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>>378708543
>word 1 ALIVE
>word 2 D

>"D" is a word
>ALIVE is word one, but actually it's the second one on the emblem

upsetty spaghetti

>>378695761
It's regression not projection. Just saying.