Street Fighter V

Nigga, i don't think you really appreciate how little fuck i give about a street fighter v patch now that tekken 7 is about to be released.

>>378683493
I saw a 10gb patch for SFV on Steam & just deleted it, obvious they just want people to come back to distract from Tekken

Downloading it for the trials.

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>>378683493
Ok. Go back to your Tekken thread then. I'm looking forward to the release of T7, partly because I'm hoping it'll light a fire under Capcom's ass. I'm hoping T7 does well, though I'm probably not gonna get it.

Debating getting it since it's on sale. I played in the beta and rented it at launch but I couldn't even get online for the entire time I had it so I was just playing locals. How easy is it to get fight money? In hours, assuming a 50/50 winrate, how long would it take to get Alex Akuma and ed?

I think Ed is pretty cool.

Why is the patch even so huge?

>>378683816

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/895976-street-fighter-v/73944270

Pretty easy.

>09ers

Is it just me, or does the online feel even worse now? Like either the netcode's got shittier, or there's more input lag, it felt like I was steering a submarine when I was messing around in casual matches, and my connection seemed fine, or as fine as it could've been.

>>378684162
I feel like it's an influx of new people that will only stick around for a few days until the novelty wears off.

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Can anyone tell me if picture related is a good fighting pad? I'm not ready to invest a fighting stick yet, and I want to stop using my dualshock.

>>378682912
Just got my fight moneys, thanks for the heads up. Now back to nier automata

>>378682912
New Guilty Gear last week

Finally new Tekken to save all fighting games is here in two days.

Get fucked Capcom, SFV is fucking shit show mess with no end.

>>378682912
Going to log in soon. All I was able to do last night was hit up vol. 2 trials. Did them up to trial 9 for some characters, going to finish each for the fight money today.

I'm glad they included something new, why they didn't even bother to advertise it is beyond me.

>>378683816
Right now, you get a 50k bonus just for logging in. With 16 characters out of the box, you can get the 300k pretty easily through doing story mode, weekly challenges, survival, trials, levelling characters up, etc. You can easily get about 30k with each characters with all their unique character trials and survivals and whatnot. This includes DLC characters, so each DLC character basically costs 70k if you do their easiest stuff.
Most of your money is gonna come from single player, since you're only making 50 FM per win, but you get 1k FM every time you level a character up.
Alternatively, the deluxe edition is currently $40 on PSN, which'll get you the base game and both Seasons.
>>378684045
Something to do with how UE4 segments data iirc. When a file has to be replaced, it has to replace the entire chunk of data its in rather than just the file. That's why every single patch, even the simplest ones, are at least like 7GB. It's REALLY stupid.

>>378684508
I had one of those, they're kinda cool but unremarkable in all ways. They don't offer enough over the traditional pad to justify the price. Save the money for the stick.

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>>378684547
>new Tekken to save all fighting games
and I thought I was most the delusional being a capcbro. Please tell me how tekken is going to save all fighting games. I'm sure it's going to be good, but I'm curious.

>>378684508
After jumping back and forth, I just ended up sticking with my dual shock. Im kind of a weirdo though and I prefer using the analog stick over everything else. Its not going to break on you, and it has a turbo button which makes sf links go from easy to basically automatic.

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>>378684821
Just like it saved it after every other release.

why are patches always like 10+gb

i have to leave the download running overnight to finish it

>>378684821
Working online.

Customization options.

Big ass roster

Has literally been in arcade beta testing for 3 years.

>>378685081
>>378684610

>>378685331
that's fucking lame

>>378685081
>10gb
>overnight
You poor thing...

Patch Notes where?

how does gief's new counter work again?

>>378685695
it's a dp motion against horizontal kicks.

>>378685626
i have cheap internet, it's 3mb

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>gief gets a neutral jump heabutt
>400 STUN

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>>378685137
>Customization options
I'll give Tekken props for the wide variety of options they give you, but some of it's awful. I unironically love shotgun Akuma though.
I'll give you the rest though since I can't really argue with it, though I still don't really see how it's going to "save fighting games" just because it meets standards.

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HEY EVERYONE LETS BE GIGANTIC FAGOTS AND ARGUE OVER WHICH GAME IS BETTER AND WISH THE OTHER GAME FAILS ALL WHILE CLAMMING TO BE FANS OF FIGHTING GAMES AND BITCHING OVER WHY MORE PEOPLE DON'T PLAY THEM.

BECAUSE AS WE ALL KNOW ITS IMPOSSIBLE TO LIKE MORE THAN ONE PVP GAME IN A GENRE.

>>378685862
This is not SFIV its super hard to land.
In fact its border line useless.

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So how is Ed turning out?

>>378685137
I never really enjoyed the Tekken games Soul Calibur I enjoyed but didn't care deeply forbut I was curious, how is FM dealt out in Tekken? I see all the options and pricing for customization, and how much it costs, but is it realistic to think I can easily doll up multiple characters and feel that the game isn't restricting what I earn after a while? Much like how before this latest patch in SFV, if you did most everything else, the only way to earn FM was weekly challenges.

>>378686125
That's what upsets me about people coming in here and going
>BRO BUT TEKKEN/GG/BLAZBLUE FUCK CAPCOM
Go make your own fucking thread if you want to talk about other games. Everyone knows SFV had, has, and mostly likely will continue to have issues. I doubt most of the people shitting on SFV will even go on to play Tekken or GG. They just want to shit on SFV. I hate how much /r/Kappa bullshit there is here now.

>>378686397
Is bearded dude from Ed's story the last character this season? Cause I'm for it.

Does Ed have a cheesy way of beating Survival mode?

>>378686397
I've been enjoying him, after playing Nash it's nice to play a character that has an invincible wakeup.

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Perfection

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>tall
>thin
>knives
>dark skin
EL GADO CONFIRMED

What happening to Mike Ross?

>>378686125
Most of these guys don't play fighting games. Or if they do they just play story mode a few times which obviously doesn't count.

Why is no one posting?

>>378686863
Was Harambe Vs Capcom THAT successful?

>>378686863
I am very curious about the gorilla.

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>>378686863
>thin in SFV

>people still play this game

Could you play a simpler, more stripped-down fighting game? Holy fuck.

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>>378686397
So Abagail, Menat, and who?

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>>378687169

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yea grate game

https://twitter.com/Redmond2393/status/870023764830031873

>>378686397
I don't have any of the S2 characters, so I can't say. He's been a lot of fun to fight though. I'm thinking about getting the deluxe edition though since it's on sale right now. Kolin and Ed seem really fun and I'm really hoping those leaks about Abigail and Zeku are true.

>>378682912
Anyone else notice a slight graphical improvement on ps4? Not the pro just the normal console. There used to be ugly black pixels on certain parts of the character models but now it looks much smoother and clearer.

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>>378687343
i forgot about him holy shit

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>>378682912
Ed is my sprite animal, I truly understand now.
This game is literally not fun at all if you don't instantly click with a character.

Im still getting Tekken tho

>>378682912
why do I read so much hate about this game yet it's still the most popular fighting game?

Thailand or Spain, anons?

>>378687308
who, who and who?

The meaty links on the Volume 2 trials are driving me crazy, the charge chars being anong the toughest and Mika's trial 10 being almost completely goddamn impossible on top of being completely impractical.
And the fucked up part is that this frustration is still more fun, rewarding, and far easier than wasting time playing Survival mode for Fight Money.

>>378687759
PAY ATTENTION.
>Ono or someone from capcom mentioned something about Andore recently, we know it's not Hugo
>Menat is the Egyptian fortune teller in Ed's story
>last is literally who.

>>378682912
So Gief has a new counter, but how does it work?

>>378682912
>Reinstall SFV to play ED
>Cant even play him because he costs 100,000 Fight Money
>Uninstall SFV again

Whelp, back to fightcade

>>378686125
Everyone wants all games to succeed whether they realize it or not. Competition forces developers to make better games to ensure they sell.

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>>378687968
>we know it's not Hugo
why not

>>378687343
I actually fought a FANG player yesterday. I keep forgetting this character exists.

>>378683493
Anyone who's been exposed to more technical, more dynamic fighting games will quickly pass on tekken. Other top fighters, namely Street Fighter, KoF and MK/Injustice have advanced impressively in their latest installments; but the relic that is tekken just can't seem to evolve, furthermore many combos can be done simply by hitting 1-button, and the nearly "instant-kill" rage art moves are just laughably broken. Instead of a supplying a proper fighting engine, matches in T7 seem to rely heavily on "who can get their rage move off first". So many elements of the gameplay don't even require any sort of skill. In my book, slow motion over and over again also gets old very quickly. And in the end, it's more of a novelty or gimmick rather than an actual, thought-out fighting game mechanic. But hey, the casual crowd will be pleased!

If you want something a little more "button-masher-friendly," tekken might be your cup of tea.... Key word, might.

>>378688238
All new, keep up.

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>>378687402
I think they improved the shadows. I don't really know for sure though, but they did something.
>>378687745
Thailand, just because I like the vibrant colors more. I love how they made the cage drop down at the beginning in Spain, though.
>>378687968
People are saying Zeku for the last one - Guy's master from Alpha 2. Pic related. I could see it being legit, because there aren't many other characters with those very narrow ankles besides Sodom and Oro.

how come pros use the ps4 controller instead of fighting pads

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>>378687968
I want Hugo's mama as a playable character.

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>>378688387
yeah I know but maybe they just meant for another season, right?

>>378688559
I'd love to see Hugo come back. He's so much more fun to play than Zangief. Gief just feels stiff in comparison to how loose and wild Hugo is.

>>378688238
nobody but us two goons like Hugo anon

>>378684941
>using turbo

Jesus Christ anon why even bother playing fighting games

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>>378688759
Birdie is getting me by for now but its just not the same

>>378688842
it'll happen, I just know it, same for him

>>378688559
I'm all for Hugo. He's my favorite grappler, but there are very specific characters I want to see before him....primarily
>Adon
>Hakan
>Sakura
and
>Q

>>378683493
>i don't think you really appreciate how little fuck i give about a street fighter v
Then why did you come in here, retard?

>>378688461
What would his purpose be, you think? Seems a bit random, you know?

>Vega is a fucking stance character
WHAT

>>378688141
This didn't even happen.

Why are you copypasting this made up shit?

>>378682912
Not really, I uninstalled it a while ago, now i just play gg on iccasion.

Did they at least add a fucking region filter? Besides the gameplay it is the only thing that kreps me away from the game.

>>378689138
He has been since Season 1 Anon.

>>378689074
It really does, I won't deny that. Assuming the next character IS Abigail, then him and Zeku would be the only FF characters in 5. Maybe they're going to use them to explain why Cody, Guy, Sodom, etc aren't in the later games?

>>378689654
Any other characters that are now stance shit?

Not that I am complaining

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I haven't read balance changes yet. Is Rashid ok?

>>378686863
Is that Grodd?

>>378683816
>How easy is it to get fight money? In hours, assuming a 50/50 winrate, how long would it take to get Alex Akuma and ed?

for each character, you can do the character story, the easy survival, and the ten trials very quickly. this gives you a total of 22.000 FM per character. there are 16 characters in the base game so you get 352.000 FM very quickly.
after that, you can also do medium survival if you want. takes time, but it's like 9000 FM on each character you complete, soaround 150.000 if you do it on all characters. you can find a trainer for unlimited health if you want to cheat here, it works fine for singleplayer. if you try it in multiplayer you get a desynced match that bugs out and will probably get banned by capcom.
also remember that each character you buy (100.000 each) comes with another character story and survivals and trials that you can do for some quick FM.

finally, each week you get a set of quests that yield around 6000 FM total.

>>378689770
I'm fairly certain Vega is the only stance character in the game. Not that I really play anyone else anyway.

>>378683493

SF5 is a fucking joke compared to SF4.

Capcom completely and utterly ripped the cunt out of it with the microtransactions and season passes.

In SF4 I could find a game in 2 seconds but in SF5 you can sit for 2-5 minutes before you find a game.

I really want to like the game but I just can't. They should just declare it dead and remaster USF4.

I just pre-purchased Tekken 7 on steam. I've not properly played Tekken since the one with Jinpachi and his laserbeam rape.

Tekken 2 and 3 were the GOATs when I was a kid so here's hoping 7 brings me the same enjoyment as those two did!

Ryu still sucks and the Hinata dream is dead, so I'm a little salty

>>378690148
>Lacks any complexity or depth
>Extremely homogenized cast
>Heavy amount of slow down on the PS4 version
>THIRTEEN yes count them 13 frames on input lag
>No cross platform play
>No rollback netcode
>Complete rehash of the previous games
>Retarded comeback mechanics rewarding the losing player with an almost instant kill free super
>Worst cast out of any tekken game
>Dumbed down mechanics (tekken was already a very dumbed down game) such as 1 button throw techs
>Rolling on the ground to escape will now result in you being launched
>"Newcomers" are just reskinned old characters
>No widescreen support
>Denuvo
>Literal 1 button infinites
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqEcCOWCA2E

tekken 7 is literally Worse than SFV in every way

>>378690148
>SF5 is a fucking joke compared to SF4.
Nah, I care about gameplay.

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DLC character 5 will be a cute brown Egyptian girl.

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>>378686863
GORILLA FOR SEASON 3

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>>378690441
I wouldn't mind playing little Eliza, even if she is just Not Rose.

>>378690148
>Capcom completely and utterly ripped the cunt out of it with the microtransactions and season passes.
>They should just declare it dead and remaster USF4.
>they should release the same game AGAIN so I can give them more money for the same game with a few extra characters
I really don't understand why people suddenly love editions more than the current system. Editions were fucking awful.

>>378690846
She is acualy Roses Apprentice.
Also her name is Menat.
>>378690784
Next DLC might acualy be the gorilla.

>>378690441
where is that silhouette coming from?

>>378688238
it's literally hugo's boss

>>378690428
That's a major reason why.

This is not how you design a competent fighting game. There are basic concepts this game fucks up. It's a fucking travesty and definitely belongs among some of the worst efforts in genre history.

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>>378690441
>80% sure her voice is Erica Lindbeck
I'm ready.

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>>378686863
I don't know what kind of Cammy that is but i wanna fuck it regardless.

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>>378688461
>the cage drop down at the beginning in Spain
Just bought the stage to see what this is about, new favorite stage right here, even if the music is just vega's theme

>>378691404
>That's a major reason why.
I know how you started with SFIV and it's your favoritist fighting game evar or whatever, but I don't care.

>>378690283
>stealth nerfs for Ryu
>Cammy's placeholder air throw wasn't replaced with the Frankensteiner
>possibly Egyptian Juri instead of a reworked Hinata
>Capcom couldn't even fucking be bothered to inform us about the new Demonstrations and Trials
I'm not sure why I continue to enjoy this game.

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>>378690441
Her voice made me diamonds, one can only hope.
Is she Literally Rose reincarnated now that Bison has bit the dust?

>>378692765
>stealth Ryu nerfs

oh for fucks sake, I didn't know about that

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>>378692765
>stealth nerfs for Ryu
Fucking kek.
What did they do this time?

>>378691797
Of course you don't, you fucking shiteater. Quit encouraging Capcom so they can finally fuck off.

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Does Ed's story mode confirm that Balrog Indeed does steal the Top dad award from Ken?

>>378693061
>>378693224
Might just be undocumented Season 2 changes, but m.tatsu and h.tatsu are more unsafe on block (think it is -12 & -13 respectively instead of -10 for both). And the new cr.HP has the hitbox shifted higher, so there could be some funky situations involving that.

Not the end of the world, but it was more just tying into how much of shit show Capcom are at communicating (see Ono's repost of that month old Ultron trailer for another example).

>>378693545
When are we gonna get Evil Mel Masters? It's not like they haven't shat on the story enough as it is.

>>378687169
>sfv makes everyone hulking beefcakes
>new saiyans in dragon ball super are literally sitck people

really makes you think

>>378690441
Better be a zoner.

>>378693573
Hitbox being higher doens't make it a better AA, tho?

Anyway, they should just revert him to s1, it's not like he was overpowered there

>>378694006
Actually SF's universe has been fairly solid.

KoF's canon makes less sense.

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>>378694206
she gets big

>>378694490
Yeah, seems a bit more consistent there, but you could just DP instead.

>>378694606

The official art just gets better and better!

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>tfw Birdie
Who else here /untouched/?

>>378682912
I did and now I have 300k, but nothing to buy, because I hate to play the game.
The new trials are alright, though after fightcading for months the input delay is really pissing me off.

>>378687731
I can only speculate:
1) It's testament to how niche fighting games are: it doesn't take much to be the most popular and people play it, because it's the new SF game no matter how bad it is.
And there is nothing else that really satisfies the SF. Though I'd say neither does SFV.

2) Some people really like the game. Especially new comers and people, who complain about defensive options.
I don't understand how people can like something so god damn flow charty, but I couldn't play something like Blaz Blue either. So what do I know.

3) There are people who actually dream about winning the big bucks of e-sports. Yeah...

>>378687980
It counters kicks, but not low kicks. So Alex' standing HK or MK or Sim's kicks get caught, but Bison can slide into you no problem.

>>378694993
thats not official

>>378690441
>The Hinata dream is dead
Shit, this sucks

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>>378691787
I should've linked a video of the cage and whatnot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo3VgAOgImo
AFAIK you can't control your direction when you're climbing on the cage.
>>378695058
secret top tier boyz

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>>378695226
Sure it isn't anon. Sure.

>>378695364
>can't get a Rival Schools character
>but we can get some random faggot bad guy from Final Fight

shit sucks

>>378683493
fpbp

>>378695421
are you well

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>>378693545
actually Balrog was being kind of shitty and ignoring Ed's problems, although its implied he does care about Ed cos he does sound like he was about to cry when he told him to get lost at the end.
Also they slept together. Cute.

>>378695392
Did they fix the gold chain turning black yet?

>>378695613
>retard being retarded
Shocker.

>>378695828
Feeling a little cold right now. Yourself?

>>378696036
my foot hurts

>>378696115
Hope it gets better lad.

>>378694489
>im-fucking-plying
This is SFV we're talking about. Even if she can zone she will neither be dedicated to it or good at it.

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>>378682912

I bought the Kolin premium costume to support Capcom, even though I like her Story outfit better.

I hope they come out with some good Karin and Ibuki costumes soon.

>>378696183
no i dont think it will i think there is glass in it

>>378683493
>tekken 7
https://twitter.com/zeu_zeu/status/869876714343497731
lol

>>378695058
>>378695392
>EX bullhorn has frame 1 armor again
so fucking satisfying
>get pressured on wakeup
>blow them up right through their meaty with EX bullhorn into trigger into EX chain for 350 damage
feels good man

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>>378695392
how do I climb the cage

>>378695947
saddest breakup of 2017 right here

Zangief is S tier now.

>>378694574
What does KoF have to do with what I said? And no, SF universe has been shat up many times that you wouldn't even remember that Cammy originally wasn't a clone. Underagefags.

>>378696568
>playing kuma
you deserve it desu

>>378694574
SF story makes sense on the surface level but shit the bed as soon as you look deeper into it.
KoF Story is an incomprehensible mess unless you actually look into it.

Buttom line they are all shit.

>>378696568
I hope that's a character specific combo for tekken players sake.

>>378696749
And Nash is S-hit tier
Funny how the world works right?

does anyone here actually enjoy this game
i bought it on release but barely played it cause i buy every fighting game and never play them but i kinda want to get back to it
but i dont want to if its considered a bad game
whats our opinion /v/

Makoto better be the number one dlc character of season 3, Ono.
I swear to God.

>Chun-Li trial 8

who is the asshole responsible for putting this in the game

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>>378697398
I enjoy the game, but it can be shitty with capcom's incompetence and there are other fighting games like Tekken 7 and GGXrd that give you better content for the price.
But, if you buy fighting games and supposedly never play them, you probably don't like fighting games so that's your problem.

>>378696728
Flash kick motion, like vega's FBA used to be. It's EX only though.

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>>378697398
Even the people that play the game for a living hates the game and calls the devs retarded.

Yes you can get some fun out of it if it's your first real SF but it's still a bad game over all handeled by incompetent money hungry retards.
Hell im playing right now and having fun because of Ed and i still hate it.

>>378697991
I like the new trials, some of them are actually kinda hard. Had a hard time with Karin's.
Haven't done Chun's yet, tho.

>>378697398
It's a surprisingly fun game despite Capcom, and it's better balanced than shitters pretend it is. Hating it is mostly a meme.

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>>378697398
Just play whichever fighting game you find fun. Don't let any faggots tell you what to play.

>>378698021
yeah i dont think i actually like fighting games all that much
still probably gonna buy tekken though
do you have any advice on how i can stop being an angry shitter and learn to get some enjoyment out of this genre

Who are the best Bison and Urien to watch/learn from?

>>378698153
I've been doing them in order

Breezed through Ryu, took a while for Ken, did everything for Chun except trial 8, and just finished Cammy

Chin trial 8 is CC st. HK, (forward dash), st. MP, cr. MK xx LK SBK

The time you have to charge SBK from st. MP into cr. MK is impossible

>>378698494
Take your dose of ADHD meds and go actually touch traning mode shitter

Is this a good way to get into fighting games? I'm so fucking bad at them. I want to secretly train and beat my friends. I'm so fucking awful.

>>378698667
fug i was worried this would be the response
thanks for the advice tho anon, i think i may just be too autistic or stupid for these games

>>378698673
Play them. Find a character you like. Find the top players for that character and slowly begin to learn and understand how they play. Work those techniques into your own play and craft it into your own.

>those nostalgia stages
Oh God now I realize all I ever wanted was a SF2 remake with this engine.

>>378698673
SFV is really easy to learn and can get good if you put in a bit of practice, I played since the beta and I beat my friends all the time. Stopped playing it and recently picked it up again and now my friends beat the shit out of me.

>>378698531
>The time you have to charge SBK from st. MP into cr. MK is impossible
It's hard at first but there are a few tricks to pull it off consistently. It's actually one of her bnb's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCiJfBMMjUk

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>>378699031
>with this engine.
Why?
Don't get me wrong, i think all the girls are boner inducing and the designes are cool but the engine fucks with the looks of the character so much.

Ibukis face looks deformed unless the right amount of light shines on it.

>>378698529
Nemo for Urien.

>>378699031
>SF2
Ew

>>378698529
TampaBison is pretty good.
No im not gonna tell you what he plays.

>>378699569
>SF2
>Ibuki
All the actual SF2 characters look fine, ignoring Cammy's crappy new air throw, and Ryu's pointless new cr.HP.

>>378699569
They could re-work some faces/anamorphy, but overall I'm pleased with what they achieved.
Which is something because I really don't like SF4's look.

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>>378698494
Having fun in a fighting game depends on your skill level in a way. If you're at the skill level where you're just jumping around and mashing buttons with some casual friends thats good and all but if you go against someone who actually knows how to play the game you're gonna get fucked. So in order to have fun while fighting against that guy you have to be around that level of understanding and skill so you can actually struggle against him instead of being flat out demolished.
Building up that skill takes time, so try and work in small victories while playing instead of thinking too hard about winning the game. Focus on landing that combo you practiced in training room in a real match at least once, punishing that unsafe move everytime, stuff like that. Then you'll start to see yourself improve overall.
Also training room is your best friend, learn to love it, try to get at least 10 minutes a day in to build your muscle memory and hone your execution. Put some of your favourite music on while you practice. It helps if you have a friend who is into fighting games who can coach you, and still have fun playing with.

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>>378699031
I'd much rather have an Alpha or 3 remake desu

>>378699479
thanks for the vid, managed to do it

I knew how to buffer the SBK, but I didn't know the cr. MK could be canceled late

That was surprisingly challenging, and that's coming from someone who cleared the SFIV trials at least 5 times over

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>>378689074
I actually went and pieced together the silhouettes I could find for the last character. It really looks a lot like Garuda.

I can finally blacklist every balrog player thank god.

>>378700779
it's zeku redesigned

>>378700779
the hair looks more wavy and not as spiky or bushy as garudas. Doubt it's him esp after the Egyptian loli in Ed story mode somewhat verified that leak

>>378701093
Hell, anything's possible after Ed. Maybe we haven't seen Zeku in so long because he became a weeb like Sodom and bought some bitchin samurai armor.

>>378701216
What leak and how was anything verified

>>378701216
The leak was before Ed's story mode got released, right? I feel like it's legit, but looking over the sillhouette again had me second guessing, especially since no one's ever made a full reconstruction of it like they have with the others.

>>378682912
Is it worth buying SFV? I thought about finally getting it but I feel like the online community is dying now because of all the other new fighting games that came out.

>>378701358
Someone on NeoGAF iirc leaked that the remaining characters for Season 2 are Abigail, Menat (egyptian loli), and Zeku.

>>378701512
There's still a lot of people playing now, and there most likely will be a lot of people still playing. There's a lot of people that solely play 2D fightan or Street Fighter, and the newest SF always tends to have a sizeable community. For $20, I'd say go for it. The deluxe edition will get you both Seasons of new characters for $40.

So, I Bought Ed, did his story, his survival easy and normal, all the trials, a few matches online and the 100 FM mission. Already got everything I spent on him plus something like 20000 FM. I just need to skip every demo for the little bonus now and I will certainly be over 1400000 FM.

By the way, does anyone had a digusting rollback today ? Some of the matches I played were way more shittier than what I'm used to.

>>378701718
Thanks for the honest answer. I've been getting into more fighting games but I didn't want to buy a game with a deas online community.

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Does anybody else have problems with eds firball into CA?
I wanna do it like a hadouken into super montion but for some reason the buffer window only allowes you to buffer after the second hit (the actual firball)

His Phyco rising Buffer feels off too.
if you do it to early it just straight up don't come out some times.
Never had any problems like this with all the other character in this game.
Am i just getting worse?

>>378702386
and by
>if you do it to early it just straight up don't come out some times.
I mean the CA of coures

>>378699569
The engine is the only artistic positive. Of all current fighters is has the most distinct, competent look (Xrd is just animu). Nice painterly shaders/ texture and detail management, strong rim/ bounce light makes the characters pop, good cloth physics, strong silhouettes all in service of readability.

Everything else is shit. The character and costume design is bland at best and frequently garbage, Ibuki like many other characters looks fucked up because the model was outsourced to a rookie. The whole game was made on the cheap and it shows.

>nerf Urien
>but Balrog, Laura, and Guile were totally fine

Really Capcom. REALLY?

>>378703138
Didn't they increase Guiles V-gauge back to 3 bars?

>>378703203
They also nerfed his backthrow oki and he cant combo upside down kick into cr.mp without counter hit. Laura's meaty elbow is only 0 at best now at think but thats just a fuck you to 4 framers.

>>378703203
His V-trigger was never really his problem.

as a newfag who should I pick to practice and git gut with
or should I just pick whichever design aka tits captivate me more

>>378682912
>I'm just glad Alex is actually somewhat viable now.
all they did was give him 25 health and make his pokes like 2 frames faster, its nothing huge

>>378703581
Most people would tell you to start with Ryu but that's dumb. You can learn the game and footsies with any character. Go to training mode and dick around with characters. Roll with who you like best.

>>378703138
Let's be honest, Urien was dumb, he didn't need everything he got. I mean, just changing his Quarrel Kick input and he would have been better. But with the S2, they went way too far with him, the nerfs were expected and logical. The character is still great, as is Guile or Laura after theirs.
I can't say anything about Rog, not touching him might be the dumbest decision in S2 ... Oh, yeah, Cammy is way up there too, why did they give her an air throw (which looks like shit) again ?

>>378702246
No problem. PC usually has a much smaller playerbase for fighting games compared to consoles. Thankfully though, SFV has PC/PS4 crossplay and there aren't going to be any new editions, so the community should stay pretty solid for a while unless Capcom royally fucks up.

>>378703504
Being able to get 2 v-triggers in a round was too strong. You could say 3 bar is a stealth buff for more v-reversals but it definitely makes him less ridiculous.
>>378703581
Cammy is a good beginner character and has the tits you desire.

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>>378682912
>implying I'm ever going to play SFV after the first season's DLC did nothing but fuck up the game and season 2's rebalance made shit even worse
It was fun when it was fresh but it's no SF4

>>378703631
Minus 2 Light Elbow on block and a better Ex Knee will help him a lot. The V skill buff isn't gigantic but I take it. He will still have problems (shit defense, slow powerbomb with no range, shit oki after a CG) buthe will be better.

>>378703819
Is that you NRS drone?

>>378703697
The nerfs he got are fair. I'm not arguing that. The issue more so is they actually think Balrog is fine.

>>378703631
It's a little bit more than that.


>Hurtbox: Fixed an issue where Alex's collision boxes would shrink in the reverse direction of other characters if Alex turned around while crouching. This led to characters being able to cross him up with certain moves after he landed from mid-air recovery, when they were not supposed to.
>Vitality: Increased from 1000 to 1025
>Standing MP: Move recovery changed from 14F to 12F
>Standing MK: Startup reduced from 9F to 8F
>Crouching MK: Startup reduced from 10F to 9F
>V-Skill – Overhaul: The entire move has been reduced from 55F to 52F
>EX Air Knee Smash: Timing of the hurtbox activation has been restored to the Season 1 version this might've been changed too, since the second volume of demonstrations says that EX Knee has full invincibility
>L Slash Elbow: Disadvantage on block has been reduced from -4F to -2F

>>378703819
>thinks SF4 was good

Nigga you dumb. Even in the state it's in now SFV is way better than 4. Less hype (unless you're watching Urien or Ibuki) but a far better game to play.

>>378703819
>it's no SF4
Why do people act like 4 is the standard for Street Fighter? I see so many people say that when Alpha 3 and 3rd Strike are immensely different from 4.

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>>378703138
>before patch
>EX Chariot Tackle is 0 on block
>EX Straight is +1

>after patch
>EX Chariot is -2
>EX Straight untouched

I don't even play Urien, but whoever thought that it was a good idea to leave Balrog untouched needs to be kicked in the dick

Still nonfunctional on Wine, correct?

>>378704343
They are 09ers. Anybody who actually has been playing fighting games for a long time knows better.

>>378703976
>"Initially, Balrog's vitality was increased as we viewed him to be a very straight forward character who has to take risks to get in and do damage. After reviewing his other adjustments granted in Season 2, which have increased his options and in effect made him that much stronger , we feel that his increased vitality is unnecessary.
>Even with bringing his vitality back to the 1000, we feel that Balrog will still be a force to be reckoned with in the hands of the right players.

Every time I see that shit, I'm triggered.

>>378704365
don't forget. He can also cancel that EX straight into an overhead or go low and link into a full combo either way for 40%. Urien could never do that. The character is fucking busted. Why Capcom refuses to acknowledge it is beyond me.

>>378704753
Doesn't he get like 40-50% in one combo? It's been awhile since I've fought a Balrog.

>>378684508
I personally like mine
the L1 and L2 function for the right side buttons (because R1 and R2 are on the face) I find to be the best part
Also, PS4/3/PC functionality, they're even releasing a X360/One/PC version
tl;dr - Good if you like dpads

>>378704753
>straight forward character who has to take risks
to get in and do damage
>who has to take risks
>take risks

WHAT RISKS? His dash punch is unreactable and unpunishable and he can cancel into a high or low for a full combo. Which the cancel is also unreactable. Not to mention 6.5 frames of input delay AT BEST in a 0 lag situation. WHAT FUCKING RISK?! Jesus fucking Christ they are fucking stupid.
>Balrog will still be a force to be reckoned with in the hands of the right players.
If by "right players" they mean any brain dead idiot.

>>378704918
Yeah, he can do that much easily, when having a great oki after. Oh, and the corner carry is usually insane.

>>378705165
Jesus christ, kinda makes me glad I'm stuck in bronze where everybody just plays Laura and Cammy.

>>378704918
He can get 50% with a v-trigger cancel. Like 40% with only meter. Which is still absurd given his shit is unreactable and unpunishable with insane Oki.

>>378703819
>but it's no SF4
Thank fucking God for that.

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W H E N

>>378705741

Hopefully never, makoto is a great character that hopefully will never be tarnished by the shit show that SFV is.

>sfv

Might give it a spin today before tekken 7 comes out tomorrow, ill quit instantly if i see the netcode still being shit.

>>378705080
>they are fucking stupid.
You know, I thought that. But thinking about it, Balrog is an explosive character. It's funny for casuals to see a Mike Tyson like character do a lot of shit, with juggle and everything, and a lot of damage. People don't want to see the EVO 2014 finals, where Bonchan and Luffy did a fireball war, they want characters to do a lot of "impressive" things. That's why I think he wasn't touched, because of the esport. I might be wrong but I think that's why everything happened. Urien's shenanigan with the Aegis, Laura or Gief's mixup game, Necalli or Karin basically untouched, Guile's offensive buff so he won't stay forever in the corner. Even Nash's nerf, so Infiltration can't play him "run and gun" is made to appeal casuals watching.
>>378705221
The worst part is that the Balrog players starts to charge the TAP in the higher tier. And even though they are diamond (or higher), they are still playing like retard, full screen ex dash blow, low target combo on block and everything. It's sad.

>>378706060
Thanks for the blog.

>>378706217
That actually makes a lot of sense, making SF entertaining for casuals to watch hurt it more than anything.

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>>378705741
>makoto's school outfit alt in sfv

>>378706217
>a lot of "impressive" things
There's nothing impressive about Balrog. He touches you once and then just kills you with all his easy to perform combos. There is nothing impressive here. All those other characters still require guesses and resets. Balrog just fucking kills you.

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>>378706508
My nigga

>>378706617
During the Balrog mirror at Combo Breaker top 8, viewership went from 50k to 42k.

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>>378706617
>227 posts
>73 different posters

HAHAHAHAHHAHA

>play as Gief vs Guile
>only get one round

maybe I shouldn't play this character

>>378706617
Yes, I agree, but we don't see things as casual. I mean, I assume it's more entertaining for people not knowing the game to see a dude throwing people into the air and punching so hard that the screen shakes than a long limb dude playing the keepaway game for example.

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>>378706751
>no tekken thread up right now
>0 posts
>0 different posters

>>378706795
Let the winners finals match between Snake Eyez and Du inspire you.

>>378706751

>posts actually talking about tekken
>nobody talks about sfv gameplay since its so shit

Like music to my ears, cant wait for tomorrow
>>378707028

It inspired me to quit the game for sure.

>>378707028
You mean wait for Guile to to get impatient and go for CQC?

>>378706795
That is just a shit matchup for Gief. It's like 8-2 Guile. Granted I don't think Guile has a match that's worse than 7-3 Guile's favor.

>>378707028
You really shouldn't. Du got impatient and was trying to rush Snake down. That's fucking stupid against Gief. Du should know better. No smart Guile will ever try to go in against Gief.

>>378707338
>x game is gonna kill sfv, I swear!
Ok.

>>378682912
I've never played an SF game before, should I get this on PS4 while it's on sale?

>>378707028
I have a character crisis every week anyway

I probably won't be sticking with gief for that long, at least not while I have a stick

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>>378707645
what about SF and fighting games in general interests you?

>>378707645
If you're not sure if you'll like it or not, I'd say $20 isn't too bad for it. Alternatively, you can play some of the older games on Fightcade for free if you just wanna play a Street Fighter.

>>378707645
This one does a terrible job of teaching you anything and isn't very good. But, it is also the easiest to play. If it's really cheap do it

>>378707594
>X NRS game is going to kill SFX

Shit is as old as time. Guess what? It's never happened. I bet money that Inj2 will have the same life span as every other NRS game. Popular for 3 months then the tournament scene dies.

>>378705741
But what if
>her v-skill is her shirt grab and she can now position and combo off of it
>it's treated like an 8-frame command grab
>this becomes the entire purpose of her character and she plays more like a grappler now
Would it be worth it?

30 mins > 2 games
matchmaking still shit, I give up.

>>378687492
I've only fought one all season and I play pretty often

>>378707594

Trust me, nobody is competing with sfv at this point.

People that played tekken will continue to do so alongside a few fed up people that want a real game. Shitters and niggers will always have a place playing sfv even if the numbers are low.

Its not about killing X franchise, hopefully sfv continues to go downhill so they can actually make a game for the players, sfiv was not perfect but at least it was passable.

>>378687731
You read so much hate about it because it's the most popular

>>378707865
Where do you live, and are you wired? I'm US East Coast, wired and I was getting matches every two minutes or so when I played a few hours ago.

>>378707834
Let's hope nothing like that happens.

>>378707951
kek

>>378690376

>He does not know how rage works and how rage drive works.
> All that misinformation and not a single source.

Go back to SFV

>>378682912
Logged in for free dosh, bought urien and then installed GG.
I like the game but sfv somehow fails to hold my attention, I keep getting excited for every tidbit of news and updates, launch the game then i ask myself why bother

>>378708043

is it? didnt it get left out in some japanese tournament?

Burgerland is not the center of the world.

>>378689803
Rashid has been solid since the start of the season and iirc he got a bit better with the patch

>>378707834
not every character has a spammy v-skill that ends up being the centrepiece of their gameplay

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>>378708158
>falling for copypasta

>>378707773
I love the idea of them mainly, played a bunch of MKX and am fooling around with Persona Ultimax. I really like 1v1 competitive games in general, as well as games with huge casts of cool characters, and of course this is apparently an essential series that I need to know. Plus a bunch of the characters/lore seem pretty hype.

>>378707802
>>378707804
I'm not too worried about getting my ass kicked, as long as it's fun. I checked out MvC and other games, but they all seem to have a ton of gimmicks and complex mechanics, I hear SFV is fairly simple and a good starting point for newbies. I'd get IV, but I heard it's insanely hard to git gud at that game, and also it's apparently dead on PS4?

Long shot, but is there anyone who live in Anchorage, Alaska and is willing to come over to my place to help me rank up to Gold. I just need this trophy and then I can grind out the rest for the platinum, but this one keeps escaping my grasp.

>>378708226
It got left out due to some licensing issue

And Burgerland IS the center of the world. Don't kid yourself

>>378707865
>I live in East butt fuck Maine and I am going to bitch that there's nobody around me
Your issue is probably your location. Not the game. You filtering for 4+ connection? You're not going to get that living in Buttfuckistan.

>>378708329
learn to play you fag

>>378708238
Is my baby birdie safe? I like playing him but I'm sure I'm gonna get beat up if I try to take him to tournaments

>>378707645
ye. base game+season1 go on sale very often.
you can unlock season2 content with ingame cash easily.

>>378708226
Like it or not, America is the center of the world for fighting games.

>>378708319
Getting good in any fighting game is hard.
SFV just has easier combos.

>>378708319
I can't talk from experience about SF4 on PS4 because I never played it on there, but I'd argue that 4 isn't *insanely* hard to get good. 5 is a lot easier to start off with since there's a lot of little additional leniencies that it has over 4, but 4 isn't necessarily hard. The only thing I'd say about 4 that's hard, or moreso annoying, is that there's a lot more tech and option selects to deal with. As such, there's a lot of times in 4 where it feels more like you're fighting the mechanics of the game more than you're fighting the character.

>>378708427
I don't think he got any substantial changes in the 2.1 patch. I think EX Bullhead was made -5 instead of -2 and that was it, or something like that.

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Big highlight for me are the Birdie changes. They are amazing.

CFN stuff is neat, connections were fast and good, dont know if its because of the influx of players because of new patch stuff.
I like small things like the timeline that shows your friends playing.
I think the game really needs a messaging service though.

New patch gave out like 150k worth of FM too, and thats ignoring eds survival shit I will cheat through.


>>378704343
2 is also EXTREMELY different from 4.
SF4 babbs are terrible.
You only see so many people cry right now because so many started with 4. People bitched about 4 when it came out too but there werent as many SF3 players around.

>>378703138
Rog and Guile were nerfed though

>Ed seems pretty fun to play
>But too lazy to learn a new character and no one plays with me any more anyway
Back to Alex I guess

>>378708938
At least Alex got buffed.

>>378708530

Not even close, na has barely been into the esports, maybe 1 year or 2. This shit is a daily basis on korea. Not to mention the base on japan and the chinks of china playing kof. And guess which games are played on korea and japan? Hmmm not V thats for sure.

You only get to see whats feed into you which is ogn and maybe daigos channel. but outside of that you have absolutely no clue.

>>378700380
Good advice.

>>378709057
How did Alex get buffed?

>>378708870
>People bitched about 4 when it came out too but there werent as many SF3 players around.
God, for real. I started playing in 2012 and I remember seeing "sleep fighter 4 when are we going back to 3rd strike" in every twitch stream, but now apparently 4 is the best game in the series and they should just keep remaking that.

>>378709167
some of his stuff doesnt suck as much anymore i dunno nigga google it

>>378709167
>>378704128

>>378709240
People love to shitpost too. See >>378709090

>>378708427
Birdie got buffed
Ex bullhorn has armor on frame 1 now and he got some better frame data too on a couple normals

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>>378709320
>buffed Ex Knee
Oh we in this

>>378708319
SFV is pretty simple to get into, easiest game to pick up in the series for sure. There's crossplay so that means there's no seperation in playerbase, you get both PC and PS4 players. You also only ever need to buy it once, updates are free and essential DLC content like character/most stages are obtainable with in game currency. The competitive side of it is pretty strong, lots of good players and events to look forward to as a spectator.
However, the game itself lacks a lot of content to make it worth picking up compared to other fighting game. It'd be hard to explain the downsides of the game in terms of mechanics, but a lot of people will tell you that the game heavily favours a rushdown playstyle and input lag makes it hard to react and play defensively. This combined with the shaky online can make you feel really fucking salty. Support for this game is confirmed until 2018(2020?) which is good, but so far capcom has been incompetent with communicating and managing these updates, with constant delays and weird decisions. They do occasionally put out big updates with goof which generate a buzz of hype but it dies down in a week or two.
If what you see in SFV interests you and you dont mind dropping the money for it while its on discount go for it. Just know that it has its flaws and there's other fighting games that give it heavy competition in terms of content, but it might end up being a complete and polished product towards the end of it's life.

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I am terrible at every character

>>378703581
Everyone but Necalli, you wouldn't learn most V-bar managment with him

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>>378709601
>with good content*
I dun goofed

>>378709352

On which part im shitposting? Im legit curious.

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>>378709601
Probably the best summary of SFV I've seen so far desu. Most people either focus too much on the positives or too much on the negatives, but this is a good, realistic mix.

>>378682912
My friends all quit right when Juri was released. Fuck this game

>>378709443
Oh did they buff cr. mp? It's just free anti air mix up with bull horn punishes, mediums into combos to range out little guys

>>378709167
Better Ex Knee (the season 1, actually), safe light elbow slash on block (-2 instead of -4), faster MK and 2MK (something like 9 of startup for both), faster V skill (52 frams instead of 55), 1025 HP.

Where can I find the balance change notes?

>>378710252
Under my ball sack

>>378710252
There's a few small things missing, but http://www.capcom-unity.com/combofiend/blog/2017/03/15/street-fighter-v-season-2-balance-update

>>378710252
Capcom Unity.

How did mika do? I hope she got some buffs.

>>378695392
Can he really do ex claw into super in a real match or is that just training mode?

>>378710753
Kill yourself

>>378710847
training mode obviously

>>378704832
He's DLC, they'll keep the DLC characters high tier because they want people to buy them. Not to mention the pros play them, so why fuck the pros up when there's going to be tournaments going on, they'll do it when the season is over or at the start of the next season.

>>378710847
Heck no, he's just using infinite meter in training mode.

>>378683493
fpbp

>>378709601
This is pretty good but I think people mistake offensive play with rushdown, just like they mistake zoning with defensive play.
Characters like Dhalsim and Guile still control space like they always have, which is what I think defines zoning, they just have to do it in a more offensive way.

>>378708427
got sweet buffs, ex bull head is -5 on block instead of -2 but is still safe

>>378711124
Forgot to add, that the game is far too offensive for how few defensive options it has. This is considered a flaw by pretty much everyone.

>>378711192
I guess that's fair, plus frame 1 armored ex bull horn

>>378710943
>they'll keep the DLC characters high tier because they want people to buy them
yeah that why more than half are trash right? Git gud holy shit

why is guile's st.mp cr.mp xx boom so difficult

>>378713124
It's why Urien, Balrog and Guile are top tier.

>>378713169
Because you're bad.

You have to end in forward, not down-forward.

>>378683706
Wait, there are new trails?

Ed is fucking great, I'm having a blast with him.
My only complaint is the fact that all his specials whiff at anything but butt fucking range so you really have to get in to do damage.

>>378713485
Everyone got 10 new trials

>>378713169
It's not. They even made it easier with last update.
>>378713485
Yes, 230. They are way better than the "volume 1"

>>378683816
You don't try to buy characters with FM earned by winning fights. The measily 50FM you get per win means you'd have to play non-stop for months just to afford one character.

The real money is in the weekly missions and completing trails/survival/story modes.

>>378713253
>all 3 had to be seriously buffed for season 2
>Juri is low tier
>Alex was low now closer to mid after buffs
>Ed seemingly low to mid after the free weekend
Great job cranking out those broken dlc characters Capcom

>>378686397
He seems to have a lot of priority in the air. Or maybe I'm just shit. He keeps fucking up my Nash.

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>Battle lounges finally load flags after nearly 2 years of release.
>They still don't load accurate ping bars, let alone ping times.
>They're ordered from oldest to newest, so you literally only get the 15 oldest lobbies being displayed, and they're almost always 8-man lobbies.
>Making a lobby means you probably won't get anyone joining it because they can't even see it until you've left it open for ages.
>You will still get drooling morons from across the planet joining and readying up.
>Finally, you can STILL get rollback, even it's Germany to Germany, France to France, UK to UK, etc.

How can you mess something like this up so bad.

>>378713563
Yeah he seems to be heavy on frame traps at close range.
Reminds me of Cody, which is nice.

>>378687343
One day I'll pick up FANG even though I fucking hate him.

Nobody will know what the fuck to do against me since there's probably like 3 FANG players in the entire world.

>>378713485
everyone got 10 new trials and they're a step up in challenge from vol. 1. some of them are even practical

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patch is great, update is good. im just hyped for what they'll show at e3. they will show Abigail at the least.

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>>378691002
>>378690784
>Being able to rustle people in SFV with an actual fucking gorilla

Day one buy. Even if I have to spend real money.

What's the best way to check out the new costumes without signing on and checking out the PS Store?

>>378714150
http://game.capcom.com/cfn/sfv/character/ed/costume
That right there for my boy Ed.
Just go back to characters for others.

>>378700779
It's Necalli's brother. Schmecalli.

The new trials looked promising. Some of them started looking like they were training bread and butter and useful tacts...then they started throwing in SF4 1 frame lp lp lk lk perfect timed bullshit.

I mad.

>>378714504
Which ones ? I did everything and I can't remember anything as stupid as IV's.

I saw i downloaded a patch but I cant go online. rip me

>>378714029
Why is everyone so sure its Abigail? I mean I'm down for a Hugo-but-not-Hugo character but I'd never heard of this until this thread

>>378714504
Did Rog's and Ed's so far and they were pretty cool mostly practical stuff imo

>>378714356
Thanks

>>378714504
I actually enjoy trials just for the challenge sometimes.
Some of the trials took me some time but there were some trials in SFIV that I just could never do. I had like 97% complete in that game but some were pretty ridiculous.

So how does Ed place in the tier list?

>>378714683
Yeah those two were great. Wish every one was like them.

>>378714610
So far, Guile, Karin, and Kolin have had some bullshit ones. My thumb hurts.

>>378704753
I don't see how people can see a character that can take you from full to 30% health with one wrong guess and think that's okay.

How did R. Mika do? Any buffs? I want her to be as good as she was in S1.

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>>378713340
>>378713589
I'm just terrible at actively charging

I don't know why I keep trying to play this game

>>378714645
Some guy leaked dlc characters for season 2. Apparently he was right about Akuma, Kolin and Ed. The rest are supposed to be Abigail, Menat and Zeku, in that order.

>>378692765
>>378693061
Are you guys fucking serious? They seriously nerfed Ryu again? Is he ever going to be good or even decent again?

>>378714859
Because you will only not be terrible if you keep practicing.

>>378714757
Solid mid from what Ive done with him and heard from pros

>>378709681
Sounds like Balrog is for you

>>378714870
>Zeku.
I guess I can see that. Although I do wish it would be Garuda.

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How do I become this man?