was he gay?
>>378672396
Yeah. I benched him cause of his design and how he couldn't keep it in his pants
idk are you
>>378672396
Valvarsexual.
>>378672396
>was he gay
>Literally Says he Loves Valbar
>Tells Kamui he isn't his Type
>Is annoyed by people asking if he likes women
>Is nearly a trap
I wonder?!?
>huge bara loving faggot
Is Leon /our/ guy?
>>378672551
>Benching Second Best Archer in the Game
>>378672574
Was Kamui genuinely coming onto him or was it just that Leon was intentionally misinterpreting his responses as suggestive in order to mess with him?
>>378673303
>Kamui love Leon
>Leon love Valbar
>Valbar love his dead wife
truly sad
>>378672805
Who is the best?
>>378673651
Python? I mean anyone who can Dreadfighter loop is p. Good but a one loop Python is OP according to people.
>>378673651
Not >>378672805 but
Atlas
Tobin
Leon
Python
>>378672396
Python is cuter
>>378674136
Python's the cutest but mine seems to be so much worse than the other archers
>>378674353
my Python is fucking trash
i made Kliff a archer and he's better than Python
>>378674353
All the guys in the deliverance are trash
>>378674883
>>378674883
>game has two routes
>all the characters in Celica's route are interesting and fun
>all the characters in Alm's route are fucking boring
Make way for the superior gay archer.
>>378674883
You must have some bad luck with leveling up. My deliverance units are clowning fools left and right
>>378675424
But Niles is a fucking degenerated slut.
Leon is pure and just in love with a man who will probably never return his feelings.
>>378675424
>benny wasn't the gay one
FUCK
>>378674998
>>378675592
Lukas and Forsythe are shit. Knights aren't a good class in Echoes due to their poor speed and low movement on top of being lance users; Lukas especially is just trash.
Python is the worst natural archer in the game.
And Clive is a fucking joke.
Meanwhile Claire and Mathilda are monsters.
>That support convo where Mathilda says she's not as good a fighter as Clive yet despite being easily one of the best units in Alm's army and the best cavalier by a country mile while Clive is hot garbage
Top fucking kek
>>378674883
I feel that way after celica's team turned out on mine, though I'm only on chapter 4
>Promote everyone on Celica's team
>get amazing units like sonya and leon and atlas
>promote everyone on Alm's team
>only one halfway decent is kliff, maybe mathilda and she was a prepromote
Clive was a huge disappointment, waited until level 15 cav to promote, he's a paladin with 13 attack and single digit stats down the line.
>>378675726
>you'll never have a quiet live in a tiny house in the forest with Benny with the only loud moments being when Charlotte comes to hang out with her bestie
;_;
>>378675681
Niles... Had a hard life...
>>378676152
>>378672396
Yes, and he's the worst character because of it, too bad I can't bench him because he's a good archer.
>>378676295
>>378674883
Fernand plz
>>378675779
>lukas trash
nigga my man is twice the tank valdbar can ever hope to be also give one of your knights the fucking Hexlock sheild
>>378675779
>>378675779
My Kliff and Tobin are monsters, especially Kliff. On top of that he has good defense. Alm is no question, he's good all around. Claire is alright with the mount slayer or whatever it's called, but otherwise a glass cannon. Same with Clive, glass cannon. Lukas and Forsyth are my tanks (except when there are mages). Fayes is..... well, Faye. The guy with the brown skin, forgot his name, he's my tank as well. Mathilda is best unit.
>>378676898
I can't imagine how you got a good Tobin when mine turned out to be so garbage. Was it because I made him an archer? He's gotten nothing but 1-stat level ups for the last six levels in a row.
>>378675424
ahem
>>378676898
I wasn't counting the villagers, just the original deliverance members.
>Clive
>Glass cannon
No. Clive is fucking trash. In order to be a glass cannon, you actually have to be capable of killing things, which Clive is not since he gets double-attacked by basically every unit that isn't a knight.
Claire is also a glass cannon but she has the stats to kill things dead, making her actually good.
And maybe I was just lucky, but for me Claire basically got 3+ stats every level and usually in speed and attack. Which was a refreshing change after 90% of Alm's army getting maybe 2 stats per level at that point in the game
>>378676838
Maybe it's just me, but overall soldiers/knights were just dead weight most of the time. Yeah they can tank but I never really needed them, and they could never kill things when it counted. Lukas, Forsythe, and Valbar easily saw the least amount of combat outside of healers in my playthrough.
>>378674883
>barn bred peasants
>the lowborn nobles
>peasant loving nobles
thrash indeed
>>378677359
Are you equipping Clive with good weapons? Typically he can attack twice, give him a steel lance and he can easily kill units, especially when armorslayer comes into play. I've had no problem taking down foes when using him. It's most survival that's the problem, especially mages because of his low resistance and defense.
>>378678005
>Typically he can attack twice
In what world?
He has like 8 fucking speed on a good day; around 5 with a steel lance. Maybe you're still early on but that doesn't cut it when you actually start fighting competent units
>>378678205
I'm nearing the end of act three.
>>378678205
have him drink from the foutians that give speed or feed him one or two pegisis cheese
>>378677359
Just give him a shield long enough to get Defensive so you can at least use him as a myrmidon/cavalier meatshield.
>>378677086
I made him an archer as well. Maybe I just got lucky. My Tobin is better than my Python as far as attacking goes. Survival is a different story, Python is still king when it comes to that.
>>378672805
>Implying archers are even remotely useful
>>378678569
I find them to be pretty valuable if I want to safely attack some mages. Fucking mages man, this game makes them really hard to deal with.
>>378678308
>Wasting stat ups on shit units
Why would you ever?
I can't believe there are so many Clive apologists trying to polish a turd. Just use him as a meatshield like god intended and move on to better units.
>>378678569
Archers are actually a lot better than it first appears. They have low stats but they make up for it with a huge attack range as snipers and the bow skills, which make up for their lackluster natural power. Killer bows especially turn them into forces of destruction