WE ARE LIVING OUR LIVES

>>378668331
How did 5 end up with such a bad intro

>>378668750
How did persona end up with trashy indecipherable jpop anyway?

persona 4 is fucking garbage

WHO AM I?

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>>378668750
get some taste kid

>>378668915
Better than 5

>>378668997
lol

>>378668924
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxNAwZ-A88w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h73LvR8V2LA
both of these are much better than 5's

>>378668997
I don't even like newer games and that's wrong

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>>378669082
>the chorus on P3's intro

>>378668750
5's intro is kino though. I don't even like the game itself that much either.

4 > 5 > FES > 3 > Golden

>>378669082
The best persona intro in my opinion is the psp version of P2 EP
Its a shame that we NEVER FUCKING GOT IT in the west
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1bgbfEPUog

>>378669082
>original P3 intro
>not FES' hip hop intro

THIS CAROUSEL

>>378669506
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWQZsaCz9Qk

This thread makes me happy bc I really loved p5 and it's my first persona

You're saying that the others are better??? sign me up!!!

What boss music can even compete with this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Imbw-fj8coU

>>378669506
I love that one too but I was posting the first version of both games' intros and also I didn't want to admit that 5's intro is better than 4 Golden's

>>378669732
Anything from golden age Meguro.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0IDL5XWQVo

>>378669732
does final boss music count?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kBqP06eDRY

HIDE AND SEEK IT WANTS TO PLAY AGAIN

>>378669732
Shoji Meguro loves his guitars
this is still my favorite boss theme though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI8qjMGfdYU

PSP P1's opening was pretty fucking good desu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_sR-LFfZAU

>Persona 4's intro is about fake news

>>378669618
That was actually pretty good. Thanks for sharing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7H5pYCw4ET4

Kino coming through. Best song

>>378668997
>Doesn't have a NUCLEAR element

It's garbo anon.

>>378669905
Reminder this is the only good final boss music Meguro has ever done.

>>378668331
It was the first persona game i played and i was really hyped, it seemed really promising

it turned out to be pretty meh and i ended up disappointed.

It's such a shame what they do with this serie, it has so much potential and they keep on wasting it imo

WE'RE ALL TRAPPED IN A MAZE OF RELATIONSHIPS

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>>378670172
It's the weakest of the 3 modern Personas, in my opinion. Still liked it though.

>>378670027
PS version was better I'm
More spooky

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>>378670472
>>378670172
I legit love Persona 4 Golden. The first Atlus game I owned and completed. I went back and played some SMT and p3 fes, but 4 will always have a special place in my heart

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>>378670047
pretty much the entire game is

>worst Persona game
>Second best intro
The fuck Atlus

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Pursuing my true self > Dance! > Burn My Dread > Maze of Life > P3 FES > Wake up get up get out there > Shadow World > Soul Phrase > Best Friends > Break out of
Prove me wrong. Protip: You can't because they're my subjective opinions and you are free to disagree

>>378671483
burn my dread is terrible

>>378671483
>Break out of last
what the fuck is wrong with you

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>>378671045
Holy shit its real.

>>378670472
But P3 exists????

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>>378671663
You're forgetting that 4 exists I think.

>>378671663
You forgot that P4 and P5 exist

>>378671734
right, because P3's 264 randomly generated floors were so much better

P5 = P2 > P3 > P1 > P4

Plotwise though it's

P2 > P1 > P3 > P5 > P4

My favorite intro was Dancing All Night

>>378668750
The fuck? P5's intro is fucking fantastic.

>>378672079
Alright, this has to be bait if you think 1 and 2's dogshit dungeons are better than 4's

>>378669620
They're not actually better. You just hear a lot of hate for it on /v/ because its popular right now. P3 and P4 are both fantastic games, but P5 is definitely the best one.

>>378672003
It literally was. Also having to literally fight every shadow head on in 4 because you couldn't sneak behind them during early game was BULLSHIT and automatically makes it the worst game in the series

>>378672237
>BULLSHIT
fuck off Ryuji, go be useless somewhere else

>>378669732
IMO, I'll Face Myself is better, but Blooming Villain is dope too

>>378672123
I fucking love Dance!, shame about that rotoscoping. it's still better than P4G's tho

>>378672157
There's nothing wrong with 1 and 2's dungeons, the encounter rate is just abysmal.

>>378672237
you could just wait for them to turn around, you know

>>378672157
Hell, it's bait if you think P3's are better than P4's

>>378672157
Then my post would be 100% bait, but the first list is as a whole.

Combat and dungeons would be just chronological progression with P5 first and P1 last. Maybe switch P1 and P2.

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>>378672003
>People still forcing the 'Tartarus is worse than the TV World meme'
Tartarus had a single deadline making it a lot more flexible to work with and a lot of times the stairs to the next floor would be right where you started making it less tedious than Hallway Simulator 4.

The thing with P5's intro, it just highlights where the devs decided to rush in characters, the first 4 get most of the scenes then the rest only get one specific scene in it

>>378670472
I l-love Rise-chan!

EVERYDAY
IS

>>378672392
Except they suck total ass

>>378672125
you faggots should probably realize just because you waited an extra year for the game doesn't suddenly mean its better.

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>>378672504

>>378672525
GREAT

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>>378672484

Would the TV dungeons be considered palaces in P5?

>>378672484
Tartarus was a godawful idea, I'm glad 4 and 5 went back to separate dungeons

Also 3 has the worst characters

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Flashy rhymes coated with spangles
Add some sounds in it times wangles
Three dots connect to rectangles
Just like music sounds connect to rambles

>>378668750
shit taste

P5 has best intro

>>378672484
every dungeon had like 8-10 floors that you could finish in one day and shitton of days to finish them, why exactly would it need to be more flexible?

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>>378672736
>Also 3 has the worst characters
>When Yosuke and Teddie exist

>>378671974
>P3
>better than P5
Literally kill yourself

P3 faggots are the fucking worst, your game is fucking shit.

>>378672916
>implying

Robo slut and Junpei were much worse

>>378672679
no

>>378668750
>How did 5 end up with such a bad intro
>not liking Sayo Yamamato's masterpiece

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WANNNNNNNNA KNOWWWWW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhVmJTdNduQ

>>378669506
Fuck, i wish i could play P3 for the first time. I have always thought Minato will turn evil when i saw him ascending with a grin in opening.

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>>378672736
>When Junpei is the best developed character in the nu-Persona series

>>378672985
You have no taste. They are both good characters that show weakness and growth unlike anyone in P4

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>>378671663
3 > 2 > 4 > 5 > 1

5 was a let down but still pretty good. 3 is still untouchable and always will be I guess

>>378673094
>>378673159
Nah, fucker was annoying

>>378673094
I love how every other SEES member mostly did some spectacular shit and Junpei just became a little league baseball coach, not having any of that shadow shit in his life.

>>378672484
264 floors of the same exact shit shit

or 10 floors of the same shit with each dungeons aesthetically looking different at the very least?

Tartarus was the epitome of tedious, why make a empty dungeon that's long as fuck?

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>>378672858
It really does doesn't it.

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>>378672736
I didn't think somebody could be this wrong jesus

>>378673265
The only wrong thing here is thinking 3 is anything but a hot pile of garbage

>>378673183
This has to be bait surely

No one could be THIS stupid

>>378670027
>>378669082
>>378669552

Yumi Kawamura is just fucking perfect. Is there anything she can do wrong ?
I swear to god, if they try to replace her at Persona concert with that new P5 hack singer...

>>378673340
It's one of the best jrpgs ever made

>>378673358
That's my line

>>378672736
Why couldn't they have made Tartarus a side dungeon that didn't have hard roadblocks on it, and then have real dungeons with actual traps/puzzles etc? It's like they made all the full moon bosses first and realized they didn't actually put a game in between.

>every game before Persona 3 had actual dungeons

>Atlus decided for P3 to fuck that shit
>find out there is success with being lazy and they repeat this with P4 and got even luckier

They knew 3rd time the charm wasn't gonna happen in 2016

>>378673424
>It's one of the best jrpgs ever made
Everything 3 has is done better in the later games

>>378673183
silence stupei

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>>378669182
what are you, fucking gay?
It's great

>>378673201
Glad to see I'm not the only one who thinks that.

>>378673504
>Only nu-Persona game to not lock character development behind social/confidant links
>Everything 3 has is done better in the later games
L O L
O
L

>>378673382
>Cast: Lyn, Yumi Kawamura, Lotus Juice, Shihoko Hirata, Shoji Meguro, others

>>378673382
She's awesome, but don't pretend that P5's vocal tracks aren't some of the best in the series.

>>378668750
How did persona end up getting such a shitty fan base?

>>378669905
this accompanied by THE ARCANA IS THE MEANS BY WHICH ALL IS REVEALED times forty billion was one of the most hype moments i've had in vidya

>>378673504
>Everything 3 has is done better in the other games

ftfy

The only thing persona ever did that was unique was the social sim shit that every shitty low budget jap dev is trying to rip of e.g. falcom

>>378673427
>Why couldn't they have made Tartarus a side dungeon that didn't have hard roadblocks on it, and then have real dungeons with actual traps/puzzles etc?
But they did and everyone still hated it.

>>378673340
>>378673358
>>378673504

Get out of here, pleb.

5>3>4

>>378673591
>One solitary repetitive dungeon
>Worst cast of characters
>Wosrt MC design by fucking far
L O L
O
L

>>378673504
Yeah, agreed. Still doesn't stop it from being one of the best JRPGs ever.

>>378669732
I like this one a lot 2bh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6cSbof7Pik

>>378673708
That opinion I can at least respect.

Anyone trying to say that 5 is worse than 3 is actually just fucking delusional though.

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>>378673504
>characters are still the best in 3
>ost is subjective as fuck but 3s fits the best
>combat still the best in 3, 5 is broken and baby tier easy
>still the best final boss and ending
>still the best plot
>still the best social links
5 has a slicker UI and gave gameplay bonuses to confidants, that's literally it

>>378673728
>One solitary repetitive dungeon
As eloquently shown here >>378672484 and here >>378671734, we can see that the TV World was a mistake compared to Tartarus.
>Worst cast of characters
(You)
>Worst MC design by fucking far
You're not wrong, but I don't really see how that's detrimental to the game.

I THINK 3 4 AND 5 ALL HAVE THEIR MERITS AND ARE ALL FUN GAMES

COME AT ME FAGS

>>378673635
Sturgeon's Law
90% of everything is shit.
90% of people are shit.
Therefore, 90% of fans of anything are shit.
And by majority rule, every fanbase is shit.

this post is so edgy that i'm dying from all the cuts I got from writing it.

>>378673739
>Still doesn't stop it from being one of the best JRPGs ever.
It's not even top 3 PS2 JRPGs though.

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>>378673850
>combat still the best in 3

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>>378673739
>Still doesn't stop it from being one of the best JRPGs ever.

Persona3 babby delusional

You cucks belong to overrated shit group

>>378673604
>Lyn,
NO!!! Don´t you fucking dare to replace the queen just because masses had their first persona.

>>378673629
They are literally the worst though

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Out of nu-Persona, this is how the rankings go.

Best Plot: Persona 3

Not characters or actual execution of the story, plot. The Dark Hour and Evokers are radical, but poor pacing sets it back.

Best Characters: Persona 5

As individuals, P5 has the best cast in the franchise. Except for Yusuke, they're considerably less one note than P4.

Honorable mention to Junpei for being the only character in the franchise with an actual story arc.

Comfiest Cast: Persona 4

Shitty choice of words but you understand what I mean. They feel like friends and have good chemistry. When they do actually interact they're solid as hell. Remove Yu and they'd be even better.

Best Atmosphere: Persona 3

P4 and P5 can be super jarring during tone shifts and the like, but P3 is able to shift between dark and more light hearted fairly easily.

Best Pacing: Persona 4

P3 has that boring as month and P5 has key characters come in incredibly late. P4 wins in a landslide.

Best Combat/Dungeons: Persona 5

Duh. It's the only combat and dungeon crawling to actually stand up to the rest of MegaTen. It's fluid as fuck, and the dungeons have actual mechanics instead of randomly generated nonsense.

Best MC: Persona 5

Joker fits with the themes of the game and he actually has some personality. Counting anime as well and Yu would win it out, provided it's not Golden

Best Waifus: Persona 5

Anne a bes

>>378673875
I AGREE WITH YOUR VERY SENSIBLE OPINION

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>>378674048
>Xenoblade Chronicles
>New Nintendo 3DS

>>378673728
My subjective opinion is that P4 has worse characters and equally bad dungeons. Also P3 has more interesting boss battles than 4 or 5.

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>>378674048
Talesfag here, Symphonia is one of the worst Tales games you need to stop. Also Trails in the Sky is shit

Started Radiant Historia yesterday and it's pretty good tho

>>378674069
did you even read anything past that
the concert is a p3-5 event, they will be singing songs from all (relevant) games, why exactly would they remove the main singer of one of them?

>>378674116
You forgot the most important part
Best Social Links: Persona 3

>>378674116
>Anne a bes
Lost me at the end there anon

>>378671526
>burn my dread is terrible
I like it up until the chorus. It had this kind of chill vibe going and then it becomes this weird rock.

>>378673240
Best post gets no replies. P3 fags are the worst lmao

>>378674194
You're agreeing with him. Look at the image filenames.

>>378674048
I'm not even a P3fag. IMO, 5>4>3. They're all fantastic games tho.
>>378674080
I get that music is subjective, but listen to them again. Beneath the Mask is the comfiest shit ever written, and Rivers in the Desert is the hypest boss theme there is.

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If Junpei is the best character that nu-persona has to offer, boy who the fuck is writing this trash? How can such a simple character be the best thing the writer has to offer in over a decade?

>>378674217
literally no one thinks that

>>378674116
Ryuji and Ann are bad though, and the game drops the ball with them. If anything Yusuke carries the cast

>>378674194
>talesfag
>junpei posting
how am I not surprised someone with shit taste has shit taste

>>378674315
I do
because it's true(if you include portable)

>>378674116
>Anne a bes
"How to invalidate a wall of text with one sentence at the end of it 101"

>>378674312
MegaTen has never been well written
Junpei's arc is probably in the top ten character arcs since the start of the franchise in 1987

>>378672079
>Plotwise though it's
>P2 > P1 > P3 > P5 > P4
Disagree,it's P2 > P3 > P5 > P1 > P4
P1's execution was shit

>>378674217
Nah, senpai. I think Dojima, Nanako, and Kanji are the best social links in Persona, but P5's are more consistant. All of them are at least very good except Ohya . I think 3's is a bit below 4 overall. No male party member S-Links hurts a lot, and having to romance everyone is just weird.

>>378674217
>Persona 3
>the game with the absolute worst social link
That damn fat brat moon.

>>378668331
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGDHKyVJtu8
subjectively best visuals

>>378674312
He's just more fleshed out than the rest, same with Aigis. I wish the games were long enough to give each character the same treatment or more.

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>>378674276
I'm saying P3 is above those 2 actually weak games
>>378674357
Name a better nu-persona party member than Junpei. Name a jrpg series not SMT better than Tales

>>378674295
>the hypest boss theme there is.

Nah i wouldn't call that type of music "hype"

>>378674116
>Best amosphere
>Not P5
Come on, atmosphere and style are the things that P5 does absolutely perfectly. Music too, IMO, but that's really subjective.

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>>378674412
>because it's true(if you include portable)
Portable was so fucking awful, and thanks to that every thread has a retarded "What about FemJoker for crimson?"

Holy fuck I hate FemMC posters so godamn much

>>378674498
Sorry, like I said in another reply I meant Portable's as well
With male party member links

>>378674570
>Name a jrpg series not SMT better than Tales
This HAS to be bait. No one could be THIS stupid.

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>>378674412
Name a worse link in the entire series than this one.

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>>378674217
>Joker
>Better than door-kun
Other than that, yeah this is correct

>>378673467
Honestly, P2's aren't great but they're varied, interesting, and have gimmicks like Xibalba, the Aerospace museum, etc.

P1's dungeons take a while to kick in, but by the time you get to the Black Market, they start to get really fun. Snow Queen also has some great asshole dungeons.

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>>378674702
I guess I win since you got nothing

>>378674648
That's more under aesthetic than anything, and I think it's unfair to compare those considering the only PS2 MegaTen that has art design that can hold up is Nocturne, and that's because Kaneko is Jesus.

>>378674716
Marie
Yumi
though I agree with that P3 has the worst S.Links out of all three

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>>378674570

>>378674216
Because she is at the first place ? I swear to god if they won´t end the concert with Kimi no Kioku, but with some P5 shit...

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>>378668750
5's intro has the best visuals and music, it's only real flaw is that it barely shows Makoto, Futaba and Haru and it doesn't show Goro at all.

>>378674575
It was composed from scratch to be hype inducing

>>378668331
Don't you mean
>TRUTH is elusive, it's nowhere to be found

Why do people have such a boner for P4? Is it because it was their first Persona/SMT game? It has the worst fucking voice acting in the series (Chie, Yukiko are awful), and teddy is the most annoying character I've ever seen. I loved the game, but P3 and P5 are a LOT better.

The only thing I miss from P4 is that comfy feeling of Inaba. Also it probably has the best group events. The ones in P5 were fucking garbage.

>>378673668
That's because they haven't realized that a story segment where the characters tell you the answers doesn't constitute a puzzle

>>378674687
Well, then you don't get female party member links as FeMC. It's still one or the other. Don't get me wrong, P3 has some fantastic S-Links, but I think they definitely improved as the games went on.

>>378674831
I like adachi but that's not a party member

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>>378674658
I just wanna fuck Yusuke and Pancake man.

>>378674716
Teddie
Yosuke

>>378674843
weren't they ending previous concerts with Never More? It will most likely be replaced by Hoshito to Bokura to

>>378674878
3 is not better than 4

>>378674658
FemMC would be awesome. It would just wouldn't work with P5.

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>>378674116
Why do people act like Persona 1 and 2 never happened?

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>>378674829
The Sun is still GOAT

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>i prefer tartarus over p4 dungeons
>i prefer NOT having control of my party members
I know that P4 handles both of those things better but i honestly for some dumb fucking reason prefer that, maybe it's just too easy, i dunno

>>378674912
>as well
nigger, I'm not saying they're all in one game I'm saying the Persona 3 and Persona 3 Portable social links combined are better than 4 or 5's

>>378669468
This guy fucking gets it

>>378674878
It wasn't my first Persona game. I disagree about the VOs and Teddie too. I think it goes P5>4>3

>>378674983
>Current year
>People still trying to imply Yosuke isn't GOAT

>>378674995
No, just stop.

FemMC is a really shitty idea

>all these people saying 5's intro was good
come on now
5's intro lacked substance and wasnt as thematically strong as the past two titles
it really fell short

>>378674878
I started with P3, followed by P1 and P2 and P4 ended up being my favorite

>>378674992
Yes it is. Best story by far, it's not even close. The combat is better in 4 obviously but apart from that, the skill cards are a retarded idea that's useless and the dungeons aren't even that great. The awakening to the personas are fucking retarded, just like in 5.

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>>378674716
But P3 also has the best in the series

>>378675135
Nah, 3 is still the worst of nu persona

>>378668750
The intro to Persona 5 starts off incredible. Everything up to and including the logo is 10/10.

I don't really care for the dancing/figure skating section though. They could have done a lot more.

P4 had a better framing of the intro (TV screens + static) and felt more mysterious than P5. P4 is meant to be intriguing while P5 is meant to be awesome. Both are great overall.

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>>378675135
>just like in 5.
5 has the best awakenings ever though.

>>378674658
FeMC wouldn't be terrible if she didn't Mary Sue so hard she could revive Shinji.

>>378675067
I still don't agree. Nothing in P3 reaches the levels of Dojima, Nanako, or Kanji, and there's a handful of boring ones so it doesn't have the consistency of P5.

>>378674878
All of the games are good. P4 is just super comfy with tons of content.

>>378672851
The FeMC route has a better OST on the whole in my opinion, but Wiping All Out isn't that good.

>>378675026
Because they didn't.

>>378675050
there certainly was a sense of real hopelessness in some P3 scenarios, almost as close as older SMT games. In P5 if you die to the boss you can just restart the battle immediately, that really surprised me

>>378674992
It's better in literally every way

>>378675050
no party control is better cause thats how the game is balanced, and it makes you play that game completely differently and have to think about each move. There's so much tension each turn its honesty thrilling. 4 and 5 are hit the weakness to win and then baton passes break it even further. Plus Tartarus is great, that feeling of getting to the top is incredible

>>378675026
People can't play games that don't give them audio/visual stimulus 24/7 now. Style over substance and all that.

Sure, I hate it when games have slow animations that aren't avoidable like the PS1 versions of 1 and 2, but it's not like the games are objectively bad, and in fact do a lot of things better than the new ones in writing, themes, and pacing.

>>378675103
and on the other hand the production value was way higher and it was more aesthetically pleasing

and you could understand lyrics, AND they actually made sense instead of being random words put together

>>378675026
>nu-Persona
Persona 2 still has the best plot. Not sure why you posted a blank image, though.

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>>378672003
>>378672736

Stop.

Persona 3's main dungeon wasn't that horrible and I actually prefer it to Persona 4 any day of the week. Why's that? Because the RNG meant you could get floors that had nothing but treasure chests or rare shadows, I live and breathe dungeon crawlers and that's what Tartarus is. You can change the music on the field as well, you instantly recover HP/SP when you go to the base floor. The only nagging downside is the stamina fatigue hidden system, that I can't defend. The floors could be massive or completely small. You can split up the party to look for everything more efficiently.

You are literally a Persona 4 crybaby queer who needs his hand held for him. Stay on the Safety difficulty and fuck off. And for the record, Persona 3's cast is way more realistic than DUDE I WANNA JERK OFF THE PERSONA 4 PROTAGONIST HE'S SO STRONG. Junpei alone has more characterization than every character in Persona 4, with the exception of maybe the the Hanged Man social link. Just look at how everyone changed from P3/P4 in P4 Arena, P4's cast didn't learn a single thing.

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>>378674878
I don´t really care for P4 but i do care for literally the perfect girl from the whole Persona series. Seriously, P5 failed to deliver with quality tomboys. P4 had 2, fucking 2 out of 4. Literally no other in the world does that. Where did they go wrong with the long haired sluts in P5 ?

>>378675180
Hanged Man is better.

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>>378675102
But FeMC Joker would be absolutely boner inducing

>>378675228
the awakenings are dumb. They really need to go somewhere else with the "shitty adults" thing, it's done and dusted. They have to go back to older characters imo

>>378674817
I'm sorry I can't hear you over REPLICAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>378675264
Still canon though.

>>378675271
>no party control is better cause thats how the game is balanced
>Shitty AI is Balanced
Holy fuck p3 fags are so goddamn delusional

>>378674853
to me it gave a feel of Joker/Ryuji/Yusuke/Ann/Morgana being the main crew and Makoto/Haru/Futaba being more of a rival team to them, so their appearances in the OP do feel quite odd.

>>378675102
Wrong. It would be great to get another perspective on the story/characters.

>>378675026
because they look like shit lol

>>378675323
Yeah, I like dungeon crawlers too. That said, Tartarus still fucking sucks.

>>378675398
It's way more balanced than 4 and 5, the game is built around it yes. Keep memeing

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>>378675323
Haru looks really mad in that picture.

Adachi >>>>>>> Pancake Akechi

>>378675413
I'd play the shit out of that game

4 is the only one I haven't played yet. How's the ps3 version? Emulating or getting it on ps2 isn't an option unfortunately.

>>378675348
hang yourself

>>378675286
>and you could understand lyrics
I could not.

>>378675482
it's fine

>>378675323
atlus did a great job with facial expressions in that game, the ingame engine cutscenes were way better than the anime ones, they all fucking sucked massive nigger dicks

>>378675381
The only old and dusted thing here is you. The game is litreally made for teens and it handles the theme of rebellion exceptionally. Don't blame the product for being an old fart who can't relate.

>>378675348
>>378675415
No, It wouldn't. Stop being faggots

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>>378675489
>not liking genderswapped main characters

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>>378675348

>>378675463
It's still not fucking fun, anon. Mitsuru casting Marin Karin every turn is infuriating. How are P4 and P5 not balanced? Are you gonna say that you can fuse OP personas and steam roll everything? Because that's literally every single SMT game.

>>378670027
PSP P1's OST >>>>> That shit PS version.

>>378675103
Bullshit. The intro is just as good thematically as the past 2 games.

>>378675567
I'm 100% sure that the vast majority of Persona players aren't teens anymore.

>>378675575
>>378675576
No wonder this thread sucks, it's full of gays

>>378675271
>no party control is better cause thats how the game is balanced,
Yeah, just like how they "balanced" the game by making the party members one-type robots that can't switch Personas and have no affinity.

>>378668331
I SHOOT TO KILL I SHOOT TO SKILL

>>378674312
What happens in the bad end when you sell out your friends? Do you die for real?

>>378675618
>Strength confidant bonus
>Death confidant bonus
>Temperance confidant bonus

>Good balance

>>378675648
LEAVE THIS BURIED MEMORY

>>378674854
Nah but stuff like blooming villain are hype tracks to me

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>>378675568
>>378675695
>Liking girls is gay
It doesn't work that way.
>>378675576
Damn that's nice.

>>378675767
No, but playing as one certainly is if theres an option

>>378675667
yeah, Atlus JP had a demographic survey around the time P5 was released in Japan. like 70% of players are between 20 and 50

>>378675618
>Not using tactics
>Being this retarded to defend P5 as "balanced"

>>378672664
WITH

Between 3 4 and 5, 4 is for sure the worst one.

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>>378675821
Well yeah, if there's story differences between a female and male character I will play as both, as well as character interactions becoming completely different as well.

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>>378669618
>That bit with the cast all finishing off their All Out Attacks
10/10.

>>378668750
more like how did it have shit dungeon music
battle theme is ok, but it takes a bit to get started. i use the Golden battle theme because it just kinda works better i think. also the If... battle theme is good too.

too much Ryoji yelling at the top of his lungs in public places about how great it is being a Phantom Thief. i mean, fuck, why not go somewhere like a back alley or abandoned warehouse, have a real hideout or something?

at least if anything, in P4 when they went into the TV, there was a hub of sorts, but P5 wouldn't allow that due to fucking story reasons.

>>378675739
THIS FEAR-RIDDEN SELF-CONSCIOUSNESS!

2 > 3 > 5 > 4 for me.
>2: best story and cast
>3: great cast and atmosphere, okay story
>5: great gameplay but since whole series is 80% VN there isn't much of it
>4: gameplay is fun, way too lighthearted and comfy, didn't really like cast beside Adachi

>>378675725
all story shit can be found on the wiki but yeah. i was surprised reading that you can fuck up sae's interrogation

>>378675990
>way too lighthearted and comfy
How the fuck is this a bad thing?

>>378669618
>mfw it's actually better than the original

>>378675323
I agree with you though I am not as resentful of other opinions. P3 has a lot of things I like.

>>378668750
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyI-Lr5O_pg

>>378675861
not surprising at all

I wish I liked P5 more. It felt like they redid P4 but with less interesting premise an plottwists. There were also too few moments of the crew hanging around eachother.

The only thing I like in P5 over P4 is the gameplay

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>>378675618
I don't get this meme, she hardly ever casted Marin Karin for me. If anything, she casted Tentarafoo more often.
Still never got fucked over by that though.

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>>378675323
>I live and breathe dungeon crawlers and that's what Tartarus is.
l o l

>>378675482
I would really recommend you getting VitaTv for 40$ and P4:Golden. It improves so much in the game and beside Marie it's best version to play.

>>378676162
>The only thing I like in P5 over P4 is the gameplay
throw in character designs and I agree

>>378676110
you don't play persona games to be comfy you fucking lazy fatass

>>378675236
>Nothing in P3 reaches the levels of Dojima, Nanako, or Kanji
Akinari > All
Tower,Star and Hanged Man were pretty gud too

>>378675618
i've played p3 3 times and have had no issues with the party AI because I'm not a fucking retard

>>378672736
I agree with you somewhat. I think Tartarus was an interesting idea but in practice it was just bad and the pay off of finally getting up to the top of the tower didn't make up for the slog before it in my opinion. the fact that there was only one time that you got to see outside Tartarus didn't help, it had no sense of scale. I had a better sense of climbing a huge tower with the Tower of Kagutsuchi in Nocturne and it didn't need the entire game to give me that feeling. There's a case to be made for whether the TV World or Tartarus was better, but they're both godawful and I don't even think it's worth arguing which is the better pile of shit. I also think that Junpei was the only really noteworthy character, Aigis was okay too but the rest were completely forgettable. Junpei is excellent though.

>>378676283
If I'm gonna play a 50+ hour rpg, it better be fucking comfy

Stop being an edgy faggot

>>378670060
You are such a fucking faggot.
P4 is an OP, P4G is an ED. Even when taking that into account Vanilla and Dancing All Night are better.

>>378676316
Was Star the rival athlete?

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>>378676165
>I don't get this meme, she hardly ever casted Marin Karin for me.
same here, only because i fucking benched that slut and let the superior healer in

>>378676110
To each his own. After a while this JoJo part 4 rip-off really started to get on my nerves.

>>378676162
the events with the group were so bad. Like I can absolutely remember the bath house scene from P3 or camping trip for P4 or even the ski trip from P4G, but what will you remember from P5? They're all so short and useless, it's like they didn't even try making them interesting

>>378675026
because really, those are just SMT but in a school. also the characters are NOTHING like P3 and on. whereas Persona is like school life, but with paranormal shit happening because you are special.

and really, i can't remember much about P1 or 2 besides coolguy der fuhrer. sunglasses make hitler cool as FUCK.

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>tfw you will never bully and publicly humiliate Yukari

>>378676393
Yes

>>378676530
Good taste, that one was GOAT so was the fellow athlete at the high school who had the bad leg.

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>>378675215
>Joker's skating stance
how to convey ur alphaness in one simple step

>>378675027
>that s.link
That some of the bitch got me, it was really good. But that one is one of those sundays s.links you can easily miss

Tanaka, Mutatsu, Maya(especially rank10) and Yuko were good. Kenji's was hilarious in the end

>>378676223
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgnD0ql-hnE

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>>378675547
From what I'm told the way Japanese anime industry works is when a game studio needs work done, they order them in waaaaay in advance way, way before they even get to the halfway mark of game development.

So ATLUS ordered those animated cutscenes and had to use them wherever they could. This happens all the time with Japanese games. That's why there are so few and far in between anime cutscenes in Persona 5. It also leads to some unfortunate timings where you can max out the Empress Arcana and be involved with Haru romantically but still get stuck with that limo ride cutscene during the November escape animed cutscene. ATLUS had a similar oversight with the game over screen in the late game.

You could realistically kill the traitor in the December dungeon, then slack off and never send the calling card, get sent to a game over screen where a dead person kills you in the interrogation room but they shouldn't have been able to since that person was dead. Or during the month that you rescue Futaba and Sojiro is called out as a bad parent, Futaba could for many people who finished it in one sitting be asleep for 24 days and Sojiro walks it off like it's normal.

Basically Persona 5 Crimson has its hands full fixing these.

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Never like Yukari as Mitsuru and Aigis are the obvious waifus in P3, but watching the P3 movie (which is fuckign awful) her character design is a lot better, I would ravage her anus

>>378675348
I think that, for Crimson, they should get more ambitious than they ever have before and make an alternate FeMC story where everything's kicked up to 11 and she's not a silent protagonist.

>but a girl would never be arrested on assault charges for something like that
EXACTLY. She's even more of a psychopath and maybe pulled a fucking knife on Shido to protect the girl.
>but they'd have to rewrite social links
YES. Rewrite them all and make every single link in the game romanceable; no exceptions. On Valentine's Day, even Akechi's fucking ghost shows up to berate you, but because you're such an insane trickster, you convince them all to go harem mode with you.
>but no VA could pull off a good female lead to the PT
Not true. Get some slightly-batshit-insane deep-voiced VA (for Japan, maybe Yuu Kobayashi; for the West, I don't quite know, but they could come up with something) to go nuclear at every opportunity.

In addition, genderswap Akechi, since he's got such a mirrored relationship with Joker.

If there's ever another FeMC again, they need to push everything to the limit and go wild.

>>378676596

Right, I forgot about those 2 sports guys. Those were fine. As Elizabeth was

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>>378676459
I liked going to the beach with Futaba.

>>378676726
I would plant my seed inside of her.

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>>378676629
Any reason you didn't mention the best one?

>>378676726
>her sprite in persona 3 was absolutely disgusting
>the way she looked in the anime cutscenes, with the lipstick was fucking great
>the way she looked in the anime is more or less a middle ground
i'm upset but i'm ok at the same time

>>378676897
it was decent but nowhere near as funny as the P3 and P4 events

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Who thought Mementos was a good idea? It was almost as bland as Tartarus was and had awful music

>>378676459
>going to hawaii, walking on the beach with hifumi
>having a potluck after every deadline

that was the only time they hung out, right?

>>378669468
We're never getting it are we?

>>378676967
there was the fireworks event, which was cancelled and therefore nothing happened. What kind of fucking bait was that, that was so fucking retarded

>>378676960
Mementos was all the bad parts of Tartarus without any of the great. Honestly the worst of both worlds

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>>378676785
>Turn Fem Joker even more charismatic and shape shifting character than the original
Yes please

>>378676707
>Futaba could for many people who finished it in one sitting be asleep for 24 days
That happened to me. It was surreal as fuck.

>>378676960
>had awful music
Better than this at least.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jX-Lrhrt1M

>>378676949
>P3/4 events
>Funny

Take them rose-tinted glasses off.

>>378677108
that only lasted for 8 floors, not the entire game

>>378676960
i didn't think mementos was that bad, it was kinda relaxing

>>378670143
I think he's done other good final boss music, but that's the only one he's done that had the weight for final boss music. Usually he does final boss music that sounds good, but also like ti could just be for a mid boss or something, Battle For Everyone's Souls actually sounds like something that would play for the final boss. This is especially noticeable in Strange Journey where the final boss music, while good, has as much weight to it as one of the normal battle themes.

>>378677127
nah it was genuinely funny, maybe because you actually felt closer to the group too? In P3 they all hung out at Iwatodai Dorm, in P4 at Junes, but in P5 they don't really ALL hang out apart from the meeting pre and post palace. You don't feel attached to them.

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>>378677316
I just like how they mixed both P3 and P4 with mementos and palaces, neither felt too grindy. Also Mementos Depths was great

>>378677328
DDS2's was pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7zvmq24Sck

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>>378677328
The normal battle music in SJ could be the final boss music in any other jrpg

I fucking love it still but yeah it's pretty funny.

>>378677343
This
they replaced the group actually hanging out with group text messages, which really made the characters have less chemistry like in 3 and 4

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>>378676960
>Press Square every 10 hours in vain to try to get Futaba to change the music like Fuuka did in Persona 3
>Forget it doesn't work like that, repeat it the next 10 hour
>The NEET team member doesn't have any music taste but Fuuka in Persona 3 did

Man I would have loved to explore Mementos on foot, probably would have been able to listen to all the conversations at the walking speed and not having to cut off teammate conversations. Also I prefer the running through dungeon animations when your friends shift in and out of cover. I also read someone on NeoGAF thought Mementos was completely optional and had to do all 65 something floors in a row on the day of the true ending route. Audible kek.

>>378677436
>Go to start puzzle
>Can't complete it
>Make a mental note to myself
>HEY JOKER IT LOOKS LIKE WE CAN'T DO THIS YET WHY DON'T WE GO LOOK SOMEWHERE ELSE AND THEN COME BACK
It would've been GOAT if they assumed the player was above the age of 4.

>>378675936
>Completely different interactions
no retard you just get to romance the male characters and that is hella homo

>>378676459
The school festival and Akechi having the Tacoyaki might be the funniest moment in the franchise for me. Goro absolutely steals every scene he's in.

>>378672736
I've been dreading my way through 4's dungeons and it's nothing but hallways upon hallways. I finished rise's dungeon but does it ever get better?

>>378677565
Thank you for telling me it's not optional
I'm already in November fuck

>>378668331
Is there an HD version of the original P4 opening?

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>>378677527
>Fear of God starts playing

>>378677649
kys gorofag. the spicy scene was good, but he's not very interesting at all.

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>>378677617
>Implying you wouldn't be able to attract both genders regardless of age or race
think outside the box senpai

>>378676936
Read the post you're replying to again you faggot.

>>378676960
>>378677436
While I understand they just mixed and matched mechanics from P3 and P4 that people liked, Tartarus was literally better than Mementos which is saying a lot

>>378677649
>Tacoyaki

he really doesn't, he was about as bad as Strega

>>378677745
mementos was just a side thing though

>>378676459
its funny really, in P5 almost ALL the fucking events we WOULD see in P3 and 4 are fucked over

fireworks display? rained out

renting out an ENTIRE theme park? just showing the group finish up dinner

a fucking trip to hawaii? barely any time spent together as a group, all other plans are just ruined too

the only things we see are them eating after a dungeon deadline and a few other things i can't remember even though this shit is like a month or two old.

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>>378677662
>I finished rise's dungeon but does it ever get better?
No, here's the final """""""dungeon""""""".

>>378677696
no

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>>378677450
It ahs the weight btu I don't think it's taht good. It feels like final boss music, but it doesn't feel like very good final boss music. I know some people really like it, but ti always seemed fairly underwhelming to em in a game with such an otherwise excellent soundtrack.

>>378677709
>An Honor Befitting That Name starts playing

>>378677793
>Mementos
>side thing
Did you play the game?

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>>378677724
He actively makes that game worse actually. I really did have to step back and realize how much better Adachi was and how much of a P5 was "poor mans_____" from other games. Look at fucking Morgana for godsake

>>378677724
That scene was great, most of his interactions with Joker at the cafe are good, his interaction with the group, especially Futaba, in text convos is good, he's a stylish motherfucker, and his dumb little dance is great too.

He's my favorite party member aside from Joker even though he's got one of the weaker Personas.

>>378677796
I had literally forgotten about the theme park Haru thing already

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Rank the butts

>>378677874
were you really so stupid to put the entirety of mementos off until the end of december? that's the only way I can see someone being annoyed with it

>>378675990
Why are 2 fans such cancer? The game was insufferable. Just like its fans

>>378677343
Really? I think the p5 party has a much better overall dynamic. Maybe it's because they're actually proactive in pursuing their goals and share said goals, making them feel close on ideological level. P3 couldn't do anything but sit on their thumbs because PLOT until full moon happened and P4 were ridiculously passive in LOOKING FOR A SERIAL KILLER

Though I will admit having everyone live at the same spot and talking with them in P3 was the best. Shame that LeBlanc isn't a hub like that.

>>378677884
Yeah, he really made me appreciate Adachi more. I just wanted him to stop talking whenever he showed up.

>>378677884
>Look at fucking Morgana for godsake
What's wrong with him?

>>378676669
I really wish there was a version of the song with the full lyrics that wasn't a remix. Got to be my favorite persona song regardless, though.

>>378677948
Makoto>=Anne>Haru

>>378677859
>It feels like final boss music, but it doesn't feel like very good final boss music.
That's every Meguro final boss track, he has a knack of having the song that plays before the final boss be elder god tier and then the final boss song is just meh.

Fog -> Genesis
Rivers in the Desert -> Jaldabaoth
Hari-Hara First Movement -> Hari-Hara Second Movement
Large Map ~ Last Area -> Final Battle

>>378678046
Literally a worse Teddy
At least Teddy could be funny with how awful he was

>>378677884
>Look at fucking Morgana for godsake
please don't imply that morgana is worse than teddie

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>>378677965
yeah Iwatodai was fucking perfect, I'm not even kidding

>>378677958
>He must have put it off!
I wanted to finish as many of Mishima's requests so i plunged in there pretty quickly once it let me. It was still bland man you can't deny it

>>378678175
but it was still a side thing

>>378678112
you have got to be kidding me? Morgana is a lot more likeable than Teddie who is fucking unbearable with his shitty puns and god awful voice. Morgana is cute as fuck

>>378678112
>Morgana
>simillar to Teddy in any way or form

Soooo you didn't play P5 and are just pulling sour grapes now, gotcha

>>378677941
yeah, i almost did too until it just flashed in my "disappointing things about P5" file in my head

its like the game didn't want you to connect with these characters. same with all the relationships, i feel like they were too forced, but that might have been because i pushed them HARD to get s.links, but it didn't feel that way in P3 or 4.

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>>378678139
S'up dude!

>>378678123
Teddie was significantly more interesting that's for sure. A weird depressed Teddy bear beats an out of place autistic cat, fucking shocker. Teddy was funny too where Morgana never was entertaining once

>>378678229
No, I have played 75 hours of Persona 5
He's another shitty "mascot' that could be entertaining if he actually let you leave leblanc and if anime writing in general wasn't terrible.

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>>378678336
>Teddy was funny

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>>378678336
>teddy was funny too

>>378678225
yeah, but morgana being tied to the plot how he was made me REALLY not care once we find out the fucking truth, it also ruining mementos too.

man, fuck P5 now
just fuck it

i haven't played it since i beat it 2 weeks after it came out, but i don't think im going back to it now.