Have grenade launchers ever improved a single online shooter?

>>378655374

Games with destructible doors/walls are much better when you can have a dedicated blowy upper for quick breaching. They're also a great counter for people who are camped in good defensive positions.

Demoman actually takes skill skyspammer friend

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>have realistic radius of damage
Woow its OP

>small radius of damage
Wooow it's useless what an unrealistic game!!

>>378655374
PvP? No of course not, they're usually the biggest crutch used by the biggest scrubs. PvE? Invaluable.

>>378655374
Only TF2 and Overwatch have good grenade launcher balance.

Wait, let me take that back. Junkrat's bombs have shit velocity and Demoman can be spammed to the fucking max.

titanfall 2
they are outclassed by any hitscan weapon but still fun as fuck to use

>>378655817
I find them to be as good as hitscan. Cold War, EPG, Softball all fun as hell. Although I haven't played as much as I used to.

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>>378655374
>I only play Cowadooteh shit
G-launchers are fun, tactical tools in arena shooters. Often overshadowed by rockets, but still handy in right setting.

They are also very handy in co-op games in skillful hands. Killing Floor is a great example.

>>378655817
Grenadier weapons are for reminding all the tryhards that speed is life. Even better if you top score.

>>378655374
They were fine in Halo Reach and had an EMP gimmick.
I'd still prefer facing GLs over snipers in any game regardless.

>>378655493
FPBP

>>378655690
demo isnt that terrible, easily punished by scout if he has shit positioning or spams too much

>>378655570
It's almost like getting it right makes it better.

They're awful in games like cawadoody but in more realistic games like insurgency or rising storm they're good for indirect fire since there's such a focus on hunkering down in a position in which you see as much as possible while exposing as little as possible

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>>378655374
>>378655374
>>378655374
Team Fortress Two and any Quake.
>>378655690
>Demoman can be spammed to the fucking max
not since the nerf.

Demo is one of TF2's most balanced classes now: the most mid-tier class in both Pubs and Comp, easy to learn, hard to master, lots of counterplay, lots of impressive tricks, and all of his weapons are either balanced or underpowered, none are OP.

>>378655975
they can be, but require a lot more skill than a hitscan would to preform equally or better
since smgs are broken

>>378655817
>Outclassed
Hardly. Hitscan has a coding advantage, but a good grenadier will wipe the floor anyway.

>>378655998
This.

In Q3A, GL is INVALUABLE when participating in a duel.

Also, it's fun as fuck with the M79 in KF2.

>>378655493
>Have good position
>Enemy *teleports behind u* and blows you up no skill or aim required
Incredible

>>378656196
Yes, SMGs are broken. That's why I even stopped playing.

The Payday games benefit a lot from them, but that's PvE so I dunno if it counts

>>378656336
>what is real life

shit games like cowadoody have no place for them

>>378655374
Still way less cancer than snipers in online shooters.

>>378657608
idunno cal of duty is pretty fun

>>378656769
Something that isn't fun to play.

What about every online shooter that isn't a HARDKOR!!! realistic military style shooter.
The entire Tribes franchise, Quake franchise, Team Fortress franchise.

Shit thread kill yourself op

>>378658235
Those are all shit games desu the only good one of those is overwatch

>>378658065
Go elsewhere then.

>>378655690
What about Left 4 Dead 2?

>>378656698
Silenced LMG build is a better workhorse. You can get a MG42 past the 40 breakpoint with nearly perfect accuracy and recoil, and have ammo for days off pickups. With a bipod you get to the point where it's basically a laser rifle. Carry an RPG for dozers and you're golden.

>>378659892

For the longest time, I never noticed the bipod. Then I saw it on the gun menu, and suddenly, Rats 1 become goddamn hilarious.

>>378656172
Haven't played TF2 in so many years I've lost count: is that fucking obnoxious demoknight still a thing? Did they fix crit pipe bombs and crit stickies mowing down entire teams?

>>378660475
They nerfed demoknighting recently and crit explosives have always been effective.

>>378660243
The thing about silenced builds is that bipods negate gun accuracy mods while in bipod mode, and sets it to 92. But silencer skill buffs still count so it gets maxed out at 100.