Final Fantasy XIV Stormblood

I want to get off your ride, Mr Yoshi-P

>>378643962
>>378644026
you fucking retard
>>378639481

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>>378643616
I TOLD YOU TO STOP PLAYING AS WHM
I TOLD YOU IT WAS SHIT.
WHY DIDN'T YOU LISTEN TO ME?

>>378643962
SMN is dead

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1st for MCH

So PLD WAR AST SCH
That's pretty much set right?

What DPS comp do we take? BRD RDM DRG NIN?

GIVE ME BANE BACK YOU SLANTY EYED GOOD

Summoner DED

>Contagion: GONE
>Raging Strikes: GONE
>Bio: GONE
>Bane: NERFED
>Ruin IV: A FUCKING PROC
>Bahamut: AKH MORN IS TIED TO ENKINDLE'S THREE MINUTE RECAST TIMER
>Ruin 2: HAS A CAST TIME

>Dragoon still has Pierce Down monopoly and as a result is auto-include
YOSHI YOU HACK
I'm glad 5/5 of my mains are looking great.

>>378644326
BRD because of perma crit, probably.
DRG because Pierce Down.
RDM and SMN both look good in prog, RDM is definitely better for speedkills though.
NIN because shirk turned out underwhelming. Maybe MNK.

>>378644402
Switching off SMN
Thinking of going SAM when the expansion comes out
Anyone got some recommendations for jobs for a stupid SMN to play?

>>378644553
SMN

>>378644443
>mnk
You mean sam

>Red Mage was EXTREMELY POPULAR in FFXI for its Refresh ability to restore MP

>doesnt have any MP restoring abilities in FFXIV

How can you get red mage so wrong. Can it's raise at least be used in battle?

>>378644615
SMN's fucking dead anon
If they buff em, I'll go back to the job, but as it stands fuck that.

>>378644693
Shut the fuck up Aniero

>>378644693
who needs MP when you have a 3~ second rez

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>>378643962
>Did you like the new changes? Is the MMO genre now saved by this expansion?

I knew it. They're turning Red Mage and Summoner into the same fucking job

so it seems we got

Samurai and Ninja = same job
Monk and Dragoon = same job
Machinist and Bard = same job
Red Mage and Summoner = same job

AND NOW...

Dark Knight, Warrior, and Paladin = same job

sure is same-y in here

Nope, MMO genre destroyed by this expansion. It's done. Throw it in the garbage. This game is finished.

Yoshi P is a literal hack

>all those WHM changes

They seem okay, but the RNG mechanics are kinda shit.

I'll be rolling SAM and AST anyway.

>>378644402
Oh and I forgot:

THEY NERFED FESTER! IT NOW ONLY SCALES WITH BIO 3 AND MIASMA 3. WE LOST 100 POTENCY!

>>378644915

>Nope, MMO genre destroyed by this expansion. It's done. Throw it in the garbage. This game is finished.

The genre died a long time before this expac.

FFXIV has always been shit, it's just been varying degrees of shit.

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BRD here.
I still have a place in all setups.
How does it feel to get cucked, faggots?

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>>378644229
more like

>SCH player

The bane nerf (gutting) already makes me wish I was dead, what else are we getting fucked over by?

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>AST get Undraw
>something that AST players have been using since the class came out

>>378645228
>bane nerf making a SCH player wishing they were dead
Anon atleast you're not a SMN

>>378645217
So nin/drg/brd/mch will still be the optimal dps set up?

>>378645228
desu, its not that bad, it sucks we're losing Miasma 2 and Blizz 2 as well. As a plus though, Shadow Flare is instant cast.

>>378645269
I just right clicked the buff to save on space.

>Spire and Ewer are now AOE by default
THE MADMEN

>>378645596
Makes sense, since it was stupid to sacrifice a card to AoE itself.

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Angry about Bane nerf, that was uncalled for.
Dissipation is still in the game and still mostly useless.
Eos still has WD/Covenant/Illumination, could see that in the background in a video.
Selene seems unchanged and by extension useless.
Excogitation seems pretty meme in that it will only be 50 potency stronger than Lustrate.

>>378645356
>mch
No, thats going to the shed. Samurai will replace it.

Now that WHM is kill I need to pick something new. What should I do?

>Machinist
>Bard
>Red Mage

>>378646012
MCH seems underwhelming, people need to crunch the numbers on that. RDM is cool but everyone's gonna be one.

So Bard.

>>378644857
You shouldn't be dying in the first place

>drk only has two combos now
>optimal weaponskill rotation seems to be souleater combo -> souleater combo -> souleater combo, repeat until dead
bringing back those 2.X paladin memes huh

>>378646243
Oh how the turns have tabled

>>378645313
Yeah no shit, I legit feel terrible for you guys. You got fucking obliterated.

>RNG ability that not only increases Ruin damage but lowers cd on Enkindle

Jesus what were they thinking that's so snowbally and random.

And to boot they absolutely gut SMN AOE via bane nerfs.

Then they and in random burn phases so you have to CD stack.
>Gaurda burn phase ability because god forbid we use another pet at any point ever now that contagion is gone
>Burn phase when Ruin is boosted after using tri attack

What were they even trying to do here?

>>378646082
Bard it is! I really like how they make it FEEL like a bard with the new changes. Too bad right now my bard is still only level 4

>>378644915
Tanks are no where near the same.

Mitigation - PLD
Berserkerish higher damage - DRK
Worthless middle ground special needs kid - WAR

>>378646851
WAR is doing way more damage than DRK in 4.0.

>>378646851
>Berserkerish higher damage - DRK
You mean WAR

>>378646146
that is true but now you can afford to do so anyway

Ninja having Mutilate removed and Dancing Edge put into Shadow Fang simplifies the class to an absurd degree.

Our rotation is now just 1-2 (Sf) 1-2-3 over and over until Hutton gets low and we press 3b instead.

Ley lines is ok I guess. I just feel like it's going to be like DRG now with a super fixed boring rotation

>>378647248
I feel like this new shit will actually mix DRG up a bit. I'm just worried about the mirage dives being dependent on jumps, unless they make them a little shorter in CD

Anyone got a tl:dr of all the changes. Or know where this shit is listed at?

Tired of faggots promoting their fucking vids.

>>378646851
WAR and DRK seems to be doing rougly the same damage with DRK having more sustained and WAR more burst... still.

>>378646012
MCH only has use in farming FATEs with flamethrower.

>>378647887
MCH is actually looking like it'll be pretty damn strong. It's like MCH has become the proper range dps while BRD has taken a step towards being more party orientated.

So I guess Ninjas should always start with Huton + Hide for every fight now that Hide instantly refreshes the Ninjutsu bar?

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Post yfw you're not MNK or WHM

>>378643962
>BLM
So aside from Enyochian being impossible to fuck up now and other people sucking our dicks for mana are we basically unchanged?

Did they add anything to make leveling other classes not such a grind?

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Ive been sorta head in the sandish about XIV.

How bad did my mains WHM / BLM get fucked.

Did they nerfed SMN because they hate speedruns?

RDM sounds hella fun. I think I'll roll it

>>378648282
POTD is still your best bet unless you wanna spend $25 on level boost potions.

>>378648286
women were a mistake.

the middle east has the right idea, keep them covered up so they don't spiral out of control and become turbosluts, and keep their mouths closed so they don't make everyone around them dumber should they speak

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>>378648197
what happened to monk?

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>>378643962
Is it just me that gets wet every time I hear Yoshi's voice?

>>378648262
Fire IV is more spammable obviously, and has had its potency reduced by 20 or 30

also Foul every 30 seconds, 650 potency, AoE with falloff ala Flare

Triple Swiftcast, instacast 3 spells in a row

>>378648338
you and literally everyone else

>>378648867
I don't. Will stick with DRK and BLM for now.

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>>378643962
they fucking did it. FFXIV is going to be the new MMO that gives WoW competition.

>378643808
>stormblood bard
>get a ton of skills with solely defensive purposes
>does not have any raid damage increasing abilities except for passive 2% crit aura
>being brought to raids ever

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>MFW THE MMO GENRE IS SAVED

>>378645228
They got a slight embrace nerf.
Otherwise SCH is looking fine.

>>378645217
>foes gone
>dinky 2% crit buff
what place?

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>>378648454
cucked hardcore, look up the changes

>still have unique armor
>still auto-include in every raid
DRG did it again boys

PLD moving out of the cuckshed to make room for SMN and MNK. WHM just installed a breakfast nook cause it ain't going anywhere soon

I think people are forgetting about the removal of accuracy as a stat on the gear will make everyone do a shit load more damage

All right.
How's PLD going.
Is the age of chivalry back?

someone needs to make a cuckshed image with WAR, WHM, MNK and SMN crying

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>>378649556
>Someone actually took the time to draw this

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>>378649339
>"WoW classes are way too homogeneous!" (even though they're not)
>SB homogenizes jobs to insane degree, literally giving them the same skills
>"BASED!"

>"Nice game, Blizzdrones. You'd really pay SIXTY DOLLARS in order to NOT play it? HAHAHAHAHA"
>SB adds not only character boosts for $60, but quest skippers too which cost about $20
>"AWESOME, no more 100 quests of MSQ after ARR!"

>"WoW's combat is fast, spammy shit. The problem isn't XIV's long a- ass GCD, our game is just well-paced, and deliberate, every action means something!"
>SB makes everything faster across the board
>"This is sick, bro! The game will play so much faster and smoother!"

>"WoW babies are simpletons who need shit add-ons like Weak Auras to even PLAY their shitty game LMAO."
>SB adds shitty auras for every job
>"This is awesome! it'll make keeping track of everything so much easier, my thing looks like a rose, bro!"

>"WoW is just too simple, it's almost unplayable."
>SB is literally nothing but simplification across the board
>"All of these changes are AWESOME."

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--- OFFICIAL 4.0 KEKSHED STATUS ---

>MNK
>WHM
>SMN

C U C K E D

>>378649536
foes isn't gone

>>378649638
How is WAR cucked?

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>>378649593
FeelsGoodMan

>>378649607
MNK has been there longer than WHM. They haven't been good in 3 years and now they're getting nerfed.

>>378649640
I mean it probably took all of 10 seconds? It probably took you longer to post a reply and solve captcha than it did to draw a couple x's, write NOPE and KEKED on an old meme image

Why do people think SMN is ruined again? Because it's AoE got nerfed, like literally every other job?

>>378649625
Imagine Arcane mages from WoW but as a tank.

>>378649625
Its back in force. They're primed for being the meta MT (at least until on farm) and a viable OT close to the others due to having two burst windows that cycle, plus on demand cooldown for their MT friend, and the ability to share Rampart through Cover.

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Friendly reminder that she will die in this expansion.

the azim steppe is so fucking good, we needed a zone like this.

>>378648286
BLM is fine, got lots of fun new spells and Enochian is less of a bitch. WHM got utterly fucked beyond repair though.

>>378644701
That guy is posting a lot of wrong info though, bahamut's enkindle has a 13 second cd so you can cast it twice per bahamut for one

>>378649671
Yeah it's a defensive buff now LOL

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>>378649650
>SB makes everything faster across the board
>MNK changes

Also yes I know this is stale pasta

>>378649780
Good riddance.

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>>378649650
people are moving from WoW to FFXIV, end of story.

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>>378649780

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>>378644443
>Disembowel
>Battle Litany
>Dragon Sight

>>378649752
isn't cover supposed to make the party member invincible though?
>guys look at that crazy buff you're 25% more invincible now

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>>378649650
Even after pruning an simplification the game still retains a much higher complexity than WoW even at it's peak/bloat. The jobs we see on live servers now are going to have the same number of abilities they're using in Stormblood, they're just newer abilities, which means new strategies, concepts and meta will evolve.

Don't forget to finish your world quests on your mobile app, though.

>>378649786
Yeah I can't wait to do a few MSQs there while leveling then never return because im afking near my house queuing for dungeons

>Paladin will still need 3+ of full fucking bars filled with skills that are actively used.

I was honestly hoping for a bit of a action trim DESU.

>>378643962
Ape Escape = 18 years old now

OH BOY I CAN'T WAIT TO PLAY DARK KNIGHT AND SPAM SOULEATER ALL DAY AND MY 450000000 OFF-GCDS BECAUSE DELIRIUM IS GONE AND POWER SLASH IS STILL WEAKER THAN EVEN NON-DA SOULEATER

I SURE LOVE WATCHING MYSELF REPEAT THE SAME ANIMATIONS FOREVER, I DIDN'T GET ENOUGH OFF THAT SHIT TRYING TO PLAY PALADIN IN 2.0.

YES I'M MAD.

>>378649780
Nah, she'll appear for 5 minutes to show us how cool and knowledgable she is and then disappear for the rest of the story.

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Post your """updated""" bars, ladsa.

>>378649719
Because:

Ruin 3 got a 50 potency nerf
Ruin 2 now has a cast timer, no longer causes blindness
Bane got nerfed
Fester got a 100 potency nerf
We can't use aetherflow inside DWT
Contagion and Raging strikes was removed
Bio 2 was removed
Ruin 4 (which is the same damage as ruin 3 is currently) is only a 15% chance to proc.
Spur is gone, so is Sustain for some stupid fucking reason.

We got taken to the KEK shed.

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STOP FUCKING UP MY JOB OH GOD YOSHIDA CHRIST LOVE OF PETE STOP

So, is there ANY chance that WHM turns out to be not so bad? like what kind of raid would benefit WHM?

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>>378649780
>Dies in the expansion
>Comes back to life again in a later patch
>Papalymo is gonna come back as well and it'll be revealed that Yda was alive all along

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>>378649895
>DRKs spend years talking down to PLDs for being too simple and less effective
>these changes

Go blast more Linkin Park faggot

>>378649851
Might have misread. The PLD takes 20% less damage from hits taken while covering someone though.

>>378649823
I'm not seeing what the big change for Enochian is that makes it so much easier.

Will I be able to play a Samurai if I play the trial after the expansion releases? Or is trial just basegame?

fists of water where? I need it right now with all these tears

>>378650032
Trial is only base game.

>>378649994
>RNG on top of RNG
>just so you can heal better

The prospect is looking pretty grim.

We WoW-tier balance now

>>378649989
>Ruin 2 now has a cast timer
I can't find any evidence about this.
Also, if it was purely a stronger version of Ruin, it would replace it

>>378646851
Mitigation: PLD = WAR > DRK
High damage: WAR > PLD > DRK
Middle grounds special needs: DRK DRK DRK

>>378650032
you must own stormblood and have 1 class that is at level 50. the trial only lets you go up to 35.

>>378649881
I still go to HW zones for the dailies

>>378650051
A bit disappointing, but I expected that. Thanks.

>>378650032
no, not only because you need Stormblood, you also need to have completed praetorioum (lvl50)

so not a chance

>>378649994
You have to see what the raids look like first. It would be pretty shit in the HW raids so.

>MCH has 0 (zero) dots now

Explain

>>378649849
>120 CD
>15 seconds duration
>Only 10% and 5% for the other melee
That's kinda eh but we're the only class with piercing so it's okay

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>>378649989

stop lying or watch a video

Hey guys how do i find sephiroth, i just want to beat him

>>378649202
im not saying it's bad, you have a right to play the class as much as anyone else, im just putting it out there

I'm not seeing what the huge deal with MNK is and why people are complaining.

The only thing I'm worried about is potentially losing chakras because forbidden has to be cast at 5, and with the ogcd delay you may get another before it goes off.

All and all, I'm happy. Building chakras passively is one of the two things I wanted, the other being a free way to cast tornado kick (it's cd is now 10s, so maybe there is something we missed?)

Passively building chakra stacks means you no longer need to worry about TP issues (purification) and the SS reduction ability might make us stack skill speed instead because we won't have worries of running out of TP except aoe.

I might even see SS being king on MNK now instead of crit because we get so much free crit with internal release and bootshine that fitting in more GCDs during that time might be more beneficial.

Everything else is extra, elemental charges seem neat. I just hope they make forbidden chakra less clunky to cast with how often we'll be using it now.

>>378650195
THE EDGE IS COMING TONIGHT
T
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>>378649823
>WHM got utterly fucked beyond repair though.
how so?

>>378650002
>implying it's PLDs fault it was oversimplified
>implying it wasn't PLD players jumping ship to WAR and DRK anyway

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Who's starting the petition to get Tri-Disaster renamed to Double Trouble?

WHERE IS THE TRI IN TRI-DISASTER YOU FUCKING HACK

Why WAR GET ALL THE COOL ACTIONS, ITS UNFAIR

>buy ffxiv+stormblood
>buy msq boost+level 50 boost
>buy 30 days of gametime
>buy a vpn because ping sucks
$100+ just to play samurai as a new player.

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>>378650241
KEKED

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>>378650241
back to the shed with you

>>378650313

>>378650279

>>378650241
>All this denial.

>>378649994

They tried to make WHM the pure healer, they instead made changes in such a way that they are only better at DPS without realizing it because they never looked at how people actually heal on WHM..

>>378650254
They're complaining that the pure healer job got more pure healing skills.

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>>378650195
He finds you. He is the end and the beginning.

>>378650254
All they got is basically MORE HEAL and their gimmick is that they build up stacks that reduce their heal spell cooldowns. I mean they got higher Aero/Stone for dungeon runs, but for raids not so much.

>>378650170
Fuck juggling a heat gauge, dots and hot shot.

>>378650241
what

is

wrong?

>>378650195
In Containment Bay S1T7, alternatively in The Second Coil of Bahamut - Turn 4.

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>>378650241
>KEKS RATIONALIZING THIS HARD
HAHAHAHHAH

>>378649989
Welp, I was actually considering trying the expansion until I read this. I only ever enjoyed playing SMN and NIN, and nobody ever seemed to want a NIN to raid, so fuuuuuuck this game. lol

OFFICIAL JOB POWER RANKINGS

GOD TIER
WAR
PLD
SAM
AST
RDM
NIN

GREAT TIER
DRG
BRD
DRK

OK TIER
SCH
BLM
MCH

KEK'D SHED TIER
MNK
WHM
SMN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yNjGbDmHoI

WE FFXIII NOW

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Anyone got any rare cards to trade with me?

>>378650435
Official from who?

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SCH dps in 4.0 is going to be fucking boring as well.
>Apply Bio
>Apply Miasma
>put down shadow flare
>spam broil II

>>378650241
You still lose your stacks by using tornado kick.
The only thing that might make MNK good is your new trait proccing on demolish ticks but they nerfed the duration of demolish and the skill reads 'weaponskills'

>>378650421
>nobody ever seemed to want a NIN to raid

Are you fucking retarded

>>378650385

They gave them a small chance for a small cooldown reduction tied to the heals they do not use often.
It's honestly embarrassing how little they understand the class.

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>>378650446
ill trade u

>>378650446
Away with you whore

>>378650439
What's FF12 about it?

>>378650439
>dungeon is literally a hallway

Does anyone else feel like they ruined bard? Yes, cast times are gone. I'm glad they are and it's a step in the right direction. But now every song is the fucking same 2% crit? It's a good buff, sure, but now our support is incidental. We're playing the songs for the other shit they give us, not for what it does to our party members. We would use them even if it didn't give 2% crit. Before it felt like an active decision to switch songs. The effects could have been stronger, but at least they were fucking different from one another.

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>>378650515
Balmung was a mistake.

>>378650385
They didnt get more Aero, only Stone. That being said their heals synergize better without cleric so still dungeon master at least after SCH got bane nerfed.

>>378650528
b-b-b-but wow dungeons are hallways too

>>378650435
I'd swap RDM and BRD.

>>378650482
I probably should have mentioned I haven't played in like 18 months. But on my server when I left, no, absolutely nobody wanted NIN.

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>>378650379
>>378650385
So by fucked, you mean they do what most have always done and just heal instead of being forced by retarded tank leads to hot swap between healing said dumb tanks who cant see an orange marker for what it is and dragoons who think that all orange squares are pools of hi-c and they just HAVE to be the ones who drink it all, then swap to doing some minimum damage before being forced to heal the ninja whos just as bad as the hi-C drg?

Thats called fixed. not fucked.

>>378650478
Isnt it the fucking same right now?

>AST gets buffed again
>overall increased healing potency because of Diurnal change
>Earthly Star is literally a better Assize
>Hyper Lightspeed
>more healing and damage capabilities due to Minor Arcana

Are WHMs in suicide watch?

>>378650580
>Option 3
>Uninstall and kill myself

I have only one salvation left to me

>>378650174
I'm sure you can fit MNK in there too.

Literally no idea what to take to 70 at first. I thought monk would be good enough to clear the first ex trials but I'm not feeling it anymore.
Tank would be the easy way out but I hate tanking in serious content. Shit.

>>378650614
trick attack has always been relevant

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>>378650446
limited edition up for grabs, stats suck but this is the only card out there, one of a kind.

Fuck i want to play AST,WAR,NIN,SAM,RDM but thats fucking a lot of jobs

>>378649607
SMN is meta you dumb ass.

>>378650696
Tank. Because endgame is going to be bloated with all SAM and RDM DPS.

>>378648301
Probably. That's the reason why they nerfed Flare, Holy and put gates in dungeons back in late ARR and Heavensward, too.

>>378650661
not really, ill just play my WAR or NIN

>>378650661
Doesn't really feel like a buff. I still just fish for expanded balance for the party.

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>these monk changes
I'm genuinely curious as to what they're thinking

>>378643962
>Did you like the new changes?
>DRG main
My cock is the hardest

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So is this a woman?

>>378650439
Bosses look really cool though

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>>378650580
>refuse to fight
>constantly interrupt their autism-fest
>by the time 5 mins have gone they'll kick you because you're "interrupting their fun"
>requeue without penalty

>>378643962
Yeah, if theres one thing FF14 needed, its even more fucking dps classes.

>people think MNK are useless now
Enjoy being last on the DPS list, retards, i stay on the top as usual providing excellent dps

>>378650829
havent you learned

pureblood garleans are either fuccbois or handsome

>>378650859
KEKED

>>378650813
>you think you want to go fast
>but you don't

>>378650829
it's clearly a boy, looks identical with arthas

>>378650829
Is this your first japanese game or something

>>378650829
It's Yda

>>378650734
Yeah, but you go back in time to my server and explain that to everyone I fought with when all they would say is "Oh, you have SMN? Take that instead"

Half the reason I quit the game was because absolutely nobody would let me play NIN, which meant I couldn't get NIN gear, and would not even let me try NIN in a raid once. It was 100% SMN or nothing across multiple raid groups.

>>378650829
Why are garleans so fucking ugly?

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>>378650439
the last boss music is spot on, gives me kingdom hearts vibes

>>378650813
"Yoshi how do we get the kids to play our new classes, I think everyone really likes what they are doing now. And if no one want tnew classes no one buy expansion"
"Don't worry if their old classes so bad they can't play them, then they forced to buy expansion!"
"HAHA BRILLIANT SIR!"

So before I read all the shit, tell me guys, my sub ran out a few days ago, was I right not to renew it?

DRK main, not really interested in other classes.

>give paladin two combos in heavensward after realizing how bad having a tank run on 123 forever is
>remove dark knight's entire weaponskill rotation, make them 123 with no dots
why?

>>378650829
Does it matter? The character is garbage.

>>378650313
>>378650315
>>378650360
>>378650412
>>378650415

These aren't arguments, nothing has changed from the base gameplay of MNK because it works. Our only real issues were TP and lack of utility, both of which have been resolved. 5% boost is 5%, and the MNK is going to be hitting Chakra a lot during that time with the help of his allies. It's a raid CD where a large portion of the damage comes from other players but is funneled through the MNK, it still benefits everyone.

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>>378650829
Nah, just a faggot.

>mfw by the time we found out the White Raven was a girl, it was too late to save her

>WHM literally standing there during boss instead of dpsing

Y-YAMEROOOOOOOOOOO

>>378649989
So you got the same treatment as every job then. Every job is losing DoTs, damage buffs, and AoE potency.

Ruin 2 does not have a cast time, it is still instant, and its potency is increased to 100
Bane got nerfed to account for the ridiculous AoE damage that you'll be shitting out in DWT with Bahamut.
Fester is most likely an error or unfinished because it has the same potency as Painflare despite not being AoE, or its tooltip and damage are updated with the introduction of Bio3 and Miasma3.
Contagion is pointless now that Tri-Disaster refreshes itself when entering DWT. Not to mention that Tri-Disaster also boosts the damage of Ruin spells.
Everyone is losing Raging Strikes.
Bio 2 isn't removed, it upgrades to Bio 3.

You are a moron if you think you were going to get Bahamut shitting out nukes everywhere while still maintaining all of your current damage.

>>378650435
>all those salty fucks who got their ping increased to 100 and claim they suck at NIN now

I knew sticking to NIN would pay off in the end

Can someone explain the MNK changes? I'm not home

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>SAM has jack shit for utility
At least NIN got buffed

>>378643962
I'm so fucking glad they didn't nerf SCH's fairy or single target damage, but HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO DO AOE DAMAGE NOW YOSHI YYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
Also pouring one out for my SMN bros because this hurts you too

>>378644402
Except Enkindle's recast timer is reduced to 10s when Ruin 1/3 is upgraded

Everyone is praising the NIN changes, but is nobody upset that the leylines ability basically makes you miss a crapton of GCDs?

Riddle of Earth is good for that moment when you feel like you're going to lose your stacks?

>>378651039
No, they can't. Only yell out cucked at the top of their lungs.

>>378647248
Shadow Fang is part 3 of a combo now, not part 2.

>>378651064
who needs utility when RIP AND TEAR

>>378651039
dmg reduced across the board
but now twin snake's dmg buff is %10

>>378650829
Eula yae Galvus

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>>378650976
>he still doesn't understand that he's not permitted to get out of the cuckshed without permission

>>378651064
Yea but SAM has such outrageous damage and can be buffed further that it will have a spot in raids guaranteed. Also since its a nip class in a nip game its never going to be nerfed.

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>>378644218
>>378644701
>>378645313
>>378648301
>>378649607
>>378649638
>>378649665
>>378649719
>>378650435
Nice try BLMcucks. Your time is over before it even started.

>>378644915
Stop posting this in every thread, you aren't any smarter for posting it here

>>378651087
And that's all they deserve for how they acted up to today.

Can anyone summarize the changes to the tanks and the pros and cons of each one.
Haven't seen one clear thing about them.

>>378651064
Too bad the dps difference between sam and every other job will be huge

>>378651079
I'm guessing that's the reason why it doubles the potency of the ninjutsus.

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>Delirium removed from combos, now it is a +MP cooldown
>Grit got an indirect damage buff with the Bloodspiller and Darkside's changes, I'm guessing they want to kill stance dancing for tanks just like how they killed it for healers
>Darkside lost the MP drain, shit is baby tier now
>Power Slash still is as pointless as ever
>Soul Eater got fucking buffed, now it's the only combo you will ever use for the rest of your edgy life
DRK's changes are so fucking disappointing. It's like they wanted to bring back 2.X PLD so casual Kirito babies can have a very simple, one-combo-only job to play, but instead of creating a new job they decided that DRK should be the one in this role.

>samurai can back off enemy, do 300 potency combo range attack after, then rush back in
>at anytime
>drg can't
Not fair.

>>378650984
But the White Raven wasn't a girl, he just got resurrected into one

>They nerf Ruin III potency from 200 back to 150 and made Ruin IV literally the same 200 potency(220 if traited somehow) and made it a proc that's not even instant
>Meanwhile Fester is nerfed due to the absence of Bio
Even SMN's single target looks bad now. Absolute idiots.

>>378651081

Yeah, for shorter periods of downtime. Even less reason to hit tornado kick, which is disappointing.

>>378644402
Where are you finding these changes anyway?

Where are people finding changes to old abilities?

LEAKED LEVEL 70 WARRIOR FOOTAGE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBzxuRvWwL4&t=630

LEAKED LEVEL 70 WARRIOR FOOTAGE

>>378650027
It stays active as long as you have Astral Fire or Umbral Ice up. You don't need to extend its duration manually.

>>378651204
shut up and give me battle litany you cuck, make sure you also bend over and disembowel for the machinist

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Wow the new job Uninstall Wizard is looking really good

LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT
SCH AOE/SINGLE TARGET DAMAGE WAS NERFED RIGHT
WHM AOE/SINGLE TARGET DAMAGE GOT INDIRECTLY BUFFED RIGHT
AM I READING THE CHANGES CORRECTLY?

Did they change the animations for MCH's Split/Slug/Clean shot? It looks like it.

>>378651039
>-10 potency on all attacks
>-70 potency on Forbidden chakra
>Lost Touch of Death and Fracture
>Their b4b equivalent gives -30% Skill Speed
>30% chance to gain a stack of chakra on a critical hit

>>378651118
Twin Snakes was unchanged they just removed the trait that adds +5% to it.

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>>378651231
give me simian thrash yoshi

What the fuck happened? Where's the new info??? Can someone give me a quick rundown?

>>378650859
Sorry, but SAM is now the top personal do job. MNK is high dps with crappy party buffs and they feel shittier to play. Literally no reason to take a MNK now.

I'm new to FFXIV and I'm wondering if Stormblood will increase the skill ceiling? When I tried the trial a few weeks ago I thought combat was boring (I got to level 25 on all classes) because I topped the damage rankings and all I did was mash buttons and use the skills properly in the correct rotations. It took me like 5 minutes of reading a guide and I was outperforming everyone else.

Oh Monks.

And I bet that unlike Oboro, Wildegart (sp) won't even show up for the MSQ.

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>>378650829
>Yfw it'll be revealed it's Yda

>Shadow Flare now has a 60s recast timer, despite having a 30s duration
>Fester is now the same potency as Painflare, but only affects 1 target and only if that target is suffering from both Bio3/Miasma 3.
>Painflare now has a shorter 5s recast timer instead of 10s

Is there ANY reason to use Fester now?

>>378651321
Your favourite job sucks.

>mained a SMN for years
>all these changes and nerfs
WELP.
I suppose I'l try out RDM and maybe SAM, I always did want to try a melee dps.

>>378651156
PLDs get more dmg reduction
PLDs get more dmg on nearly all their moves (though only by 10 potency)
PLDs get a aoe dmg ability finally
Not a single nerf

Didn't care/know about other classes to say anything about them.

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mfw they took everything from whm
they even took the damage from fluid aura
THEY EVEN TOOK DAMAGE FROM FLUID AURA


AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>378650580
>Tell them brb emergency
>Make them waste 5/10m of their time before kicking me
>Get no penalty, and they cant prove that I griefed them

>>378651298
SCH single target is fine, its AOE is shit now because Bane is a terrible skill now.

>>378651246
>leaked

>>378651280
Sorry faglord I couldn't hear you over my B4B Life Surge Dragon Sight 440 pot Full Thrust direct hit crit

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>SMN main
>MFW reading these SMN changes
Holy fucking shit just go die in a fire Yoshi you fucking talentless hack.

>>378651218
>believing the bullshit Koji Fox made up to handwave his massive fuck-up in giving the wrong gendered pronouns to a character that was never given any in the Japanese text

Darnus was a girl the whole time. Nael was dead, the White Raven we fought in 1.0 was always Eula.

>>378650580
>Forcing random people into your niche hobby
>RPing in timed instances
I'm suddenly reminded why I don't RP any more.

>>378651220
A lot of the tooltips clearly have errors or are unfinished. Why would Fester be 200 potency when Painflare is also 200 potency? I'll bet anything it's still meant to be 300.

Tri-Disaster also buffs the damage of Ruin spells which is probably what the 220 Ruin IV is about. It may buff the damage of others and their tooltip just hasn't been updated yet.

>>378651136
>get huge AoE buffs
>only nerf is the loss of Raging

Yep BLM is totally ded bruh

>>378651218
Yes she was. She was disguised as her brother but the Nael we saw in game was a girl the whole time

>>378651218
As of lore book release, the Nael we see was actually Eula Darnus and was always a girl, killed her father for getting her brother killed and took his name and title.

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>>378651321
IT'S ME YO BOY MR HAPPY I GOT YOU COVERED DOG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6WaWWxXBIo

>>378650948
You will miss the Golden Saucer event and some stupid-looking hairstyle from FF Type-0, but that is all.
DRK now plays like a 2.0 PLD, but also got "buffed" in some aspects.

>>378651316
>generally improved the game with ARR
>but lost all the cool af FFXI style weapon skill animations so they could turn the game into wow for movement reasons
I don't really mourn 1.0, but I do mourn some things about it as an FFXI fanboy

>>378651394
Why couldn't they have taken the knockback instead. Its not like I'll ever get to knock idiots off ledges with it again.

>>378650636
What are you even trying to say? All three healers heal enough to get the job done and thats what matters. Having tons of extra emergency heals means jack shit if emergencies never happen, and they shouldn't when playing with competent people. Sure WHM might be useful with randoms who fuck up all the time, but the elites have to use AST instead because of utility buffs.

>>378651408
Then, now that we don't have to CS dance WHMs will dish out more DPS no? Since we have free Holy spam for 12 (or 15?) seconds

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>>378651284
Thats my new main too, fellow WHM!

>brds need to position themselves correctly so everyone benefits songs

Very unlikely most will do this.

>>378651168

Warrior will probably still stance dance, even with halfing the beast gauge they have skills to instantly fill it up again and reduce costs.

>>378651501
As far as I can tell, DRK just got more ogcd shit to manage. People will just go PLD for lower skill ceiling and sameish mitigation.

>>378651071
Reduced BY 10 seconds, not TO 10 seconds.

>smn and mnk looks cool during the animation pre view
>/v/ thinks they will be the top classes with bahamut and extra forbiden chakara
>then this happens
20/10 - Im still laughing

>>378651336
>I'm wondering if Stormblood will increase the skill ceiling
Yoshi explicitly said he wanted to close the gap between good and bad players so it will probably do the opposite

Waiting for the big backlash to happen that everything has to change again.

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>>378651546
sent

>>378651336
>I got to level 25
look out, we've got an expert here

>>378651541
Probably but WHM will still be outclassed by AST that has better utility and damage while SCH can still do decent single target damage and now has a debuff that boosts Crit chance.

SCH is going to be fine. AST is going to be fucking nuts and WHM is still going to be in the shitter.

>>378649607
Warrior is holding the door open, and really considering going in for a peek.

>>378651652
At least SMNs didn't spam the threads with le ebin cucc pics, MNKs deserve it.

>>378651541
Maybe in dungeons, but your single target got nerfed, while SCH got beefed

>>378651450
>Why would Fester be 200 potency when Painflare is also 200 potency? I'll bet anything it's still meant to be 300.
Because Bio is absent now.

>>378643962
There are tons of really, really questionable decisions in SB but SAM looks like a fucking amazingly designed class

>those animations
>that mobility
>rotation actually requires a lot of thought - requires 2 buffs to keep up, 2 dots, dual resources with different finishers
>looks really flexible, plenty of different ways to spend your resources as opposed to a 'dump here' button
>Aoe actually looks like a fairly involved rotation with two combos and 3 off GCD abilities - costs look high though unless you can swim in Kenki
>fun skill moves like the execute can push the player to get more out of the class

I really didnt want to be a reroll dps shitter but i'm seriously considering it - SCH is fine i guess but it's not changing enough to keep things exciting

>>378651415
Damn, save some pussy for the rest of us!

>>378651218
>do you even lore
It was a translation fuckup that was never noticed until it was too late(VA was already paid for and completed), so they compromised by modding the official backstory so that she was posing as her dead brother rather than being herself the entire time.

>>378651336
>25
LMAO

>>378651730

He means why would they leave a single target skill at 200 when they have an AoE skill that does the same amount of damage, it makes no sense

>>378651730
It's not calculating it on "100 per DoT" anymore. The tooltip says 150 for one DoT and 200 for both, but that's silly when Painflare does 200, is an AoE, and doesn't even require DoTs. Most likely this is an error and having both Miasma and Bio makes Fester 300 potency.

>>378643962
Guys i need some help. Trying to add funds or crysta with VISA card and have two Error Code 401 and 601.
So i should better use a FINAL FANTASY® XIV ONLINE 60 DAY GAME TIME CARD [DOWNLOAD] for the sub. Just put the code and i will have 60 days to play? No matter the plataform PC or PS4?

I have a 60 MNK, 60 WAR, and a 58 AST. I'm guessing the best choice here is to level and gear my AST before SB drops, right?

>>378649862
>Even after pruning an simplification the game still retains a much higher complexity than WoW even at it's peak/bloa
t. Catababy

Do we know if Brotherhood also procs from Direct Hits?

>BRD is actually a BRD now

>>378651698
I really wonder if Balance being unaffected by Royal Road's potency reduction is a bug in the media build, or whether we actually get to apply fucking 20% damage buff to a whole party. That shit seems broken.

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MCH or RDM? I can't decide.

>>378651336
you don't even have all your abilities until level 60, you can't judge skill ceiling based on having classes at 25

>>378651926
Too bad the song buffs themselves are trash

>>378651841
Yeah. I assumed Fester still does 100 potency for each DoT but I looked at the update and it's been changed to 150 for one, and 200 for two.

It's either a typo or a stupid change they purposely done.

>>378651118
>>378651309
Damn that sucks actually. Though with the reaction from here I expected something more.

Why is getting the chakra from crit bad? cause its RNG?

>>378651841
Why is Enkindle a 200 potency attack on a 3 minute timer when you can currently throw out 200 potency Ruin III's every GCD?

Some things just don't make sense.

>>378651974
MCH is a worse BRD, so RDM

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>>378651929
>20 percent Balance on the whole party

These niggers can't be serious

When the parse work is done, it will be discovered that Riddle of Fire is a DPS LOSS

Yup, Riddle of Fire is a DPS LOSS meant to help you regain TP

Here's the problem - MONKS WONT RUN OUT OF TP. With Fracture AND touch of death BOTH FUCKING GONE, Monks will NEVER EVER run out of TP!

WHY DOES YOSHIDA NOT WANT US TO USE OUR TP? DO I SERIOUSLY HAVE TO PLAY PUGILIST JUST TO BE ABLE TO USE MY TP?

TELL ME NIGGAS, IN A WORLD WITHOUT FRACTURE AND TOUCH OF DEATH, HOW THE FUCK DO YOU RUN OUT OF TP ON MONK? IM WAITING!!!!!!

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>pruning fun
Yoshi is learning

>>378652008
or its worded in an ankward way meaning 200 for both = 400 total.

>main SMN
>WHM alt
>tfw

What changes would you have made to WHM to provide it with some utility for the party without homogenizating it?

>>378650948
Don't listen to the memers. Drk is gonna be balancing mana, blood, and delirium for max MT or OT damage. It will still be very fun.

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HOW THE FUCK IS SCHOLAR SUPPOSED TO AOE NOW

THIS IS YOUR FAULT SMNFAGS, YOU AND YOUR THREE FUCKING DEATHFLARES NERFED MY BANE

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

>>378651336
No, it's pretty much the opposite. The ceiling is being lowered, and the floor is being raised in an attempt to get the people who spend most of their time laying on it into range to swing a sword around and hit something.

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>>378649849
So DRG and BRD are the new support classes? The CD is a little steep but it might line up for some burst damage for you and another dps.

>>378652071
Every ruin variation except 4 has 15% chance to decrease enkindle cooldowm by 10 seconds.

It's gonna even out.

Sucks you become rng dependant though.

>>378652049

Yes, but it won't be as bad as it sounds because MNK gets a fuckton of crit from Internal Release. It may even proc from minicrits with the new stat, but I doubt that.

>>378652091

By stacking skill speed, which will be the new meme.

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>>378651472
>huge aoe buffs
>HUGE AOE BUFFS

If you don't understand why this is a huge nerf then you don't play BLM or understand your class. Cause latch on 3 stacks of astral fire and thats nearly a 100 potency nerf.

>>378652091
You don't, Riddle of Fire will be change on release.
There's no way it's staying like this otherwise no one will be playing MNK on release.

>>378651780
>VA was already paid for and completed
Nael had no voiced lines at all in 1.0

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mfw they took all the shit from whm but left us repose

>>378652140
No utility, just better MP management skills.

>>378652190
obviously the DPS meta is

>DRG buffing SAM
>BRD buffing SAM
>RDM buffing SAM and reviving the SAM
>SAM doing 99999 dps

>>378652140
Make it so that the flowers reduce recast timers for party members instead. Give them a new ability that's a contingency raise (if the person hits 0 HP while the buff is up, they immediately get a res prompt).

>>378650585
So what if they are? Given the amount of bitching people have over DF now it's not like making a maze dungeon would be beneficial to the game in any way. Imagine being thrown in with retards who can't handle cycling a pair of 3 button rotations, now you have to navigate a labyrinth with them too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW7R7QM5X18&

Here's a list of all the abilities in-game at the media event.

Ruin 2 doesn't have a cast timer.

So playing RDM would be like
>cast Jolt
>proceed to cast Verthunder/Veraero
>cast Verfire/Verstone if proc then repeat
>if not, Jolt again
>if Mana is full, do the melee attacks
Sounds easy enough.

>>378651748
>rotation actually requires a lot of thought
It doesn't.

>>378652074
it's not. They just removed the 10% group text on balance and bole because it was redundant. Royal road already says reduces potency of aoe cards by 50% there isn't a need to explain it again inside the balance text.

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>>378651640
I don't play SMN and I'm not gonna comment on whether or not it's gonna be viable in 4.0 but at least you should make sure you've got your facts straight.

>>378650580
Why blank out the name in this faggotry? these retards should be called out and relentlessly bullied for their shit.

>>378652201
>By stacking skill speed, which will be the new meme.

lol

you're retarded

Crit+Det is the MNK mea and nothing Yoshida can do will change it

>>378652303
Remove the awful dungeon finder and that sounds amazing.

>>378652161
Healers heal, not DPS.

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>>378652216
WHAT THE FUCK?!

>>378652345
Verfire/Stone are technically not the next step in the rotation, they're more specialised, higher potency Jolts. One gives more Black Mana, the other one gives more White Mana.

The MNK changes aren't as bad as people are making them out to be. Riddle of Fire increasing the GCD will feel like shit, but under GL3 it'll only increase to about 2.6 so you're not going to be dropping your buffs or Demolish. They are losing Touch of Death but almost every job is losing a DoT.

Also, while most jobs are losing most of their oGCD damage skills, MNK gets to keep pretty much all of theirs. But even with all that, it still seems strange that their base rotation is losing so much potency while other jobs get increases. Either they haven't run the numbers yet, the tooltips aren't final, or free chakras account for WAY more damage than people think.

>>378652345
It'll change slightly after every melee combo because of the mana imbalances

>>378652436
Enjoy your 40 minute queues

>>378652385
They'll report people that harass them and get them banned. It's not worth it.

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>>378652161
>SCHfags REEEEEEEEEEEEING about any nerfs despite being absolute kings since the very beginning and remaining meta for 4.0

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>>378651394
>water is a huge part of the CNJ story
>the only water spell is fucked

I dont understand

Which caster is in the cuckshed?

>>378652430
Sounds like a great way to kill the game for good. I'm not saying I wouldn't like more complex dungeons, but the game isn't targeted at our demographic.