FFXIV

>>378639481
Oh god I want to fuck a catgirl lalafell.

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>>378639481
>DRK will start waiting his DPS for heals.

>>378639648
Would be a perfect fit for your microdick, wouldn't she? Too bad they're into handsome manly men.

>>378639729
She'll be tight even with a small penis.

>>378639648
>a furry potato

>>378640420
>not wanting to cum inside a tiny half-bred miqofell

>WHM finally confirmed to be absolute garbage
Thanks, just what I needed to finally change my main.

why did you make this thread?

>>378640695
>not a lala'te with big as fuck ears with dunes/plainsfolk heterochromia

cute

but feet are a disgusting fetish to have, please crop them out of future pics

>>378642678
Embargo is lifted. New info and clarification on job adjustments.
https://youtu.be/5c48Dwpo160

>>378640695
I just want to fuck a kid

>>378642991
Then fucking start it with a proper OP and not some pedo garbage together with memes.
This isn't /vg/ you moron.

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Anyone know what font they use ingame for the tooltips?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGyWVo91HBE
Holy shit, SAM is fucking stupid!

I can definitely see DRK/PLD or PLD/WAR happening again.

>>378643513
/xivg/ is the worst general on 4chan. It's incredibly retarded. I always thought /wowg/ was bad but at least there it is possible to have relatively intelligent information and discussion.

Do i hear one song with million different versions or i'm just retarded?

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>liveletter
>MNKS telling everyone to build dat chakra
>skills reveal
>MNKS back in the cuck shed

RIP in fucking pieces monk. Maybe you'll get a chance to raid in 5.0.

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New SE video TOUR OF EAST, showcasing the areas

Really nice looking and I'm loving the music so far

https://youtu.be/yFeF4CEu4gA

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Can't wait for another month of cuckshed memes.

>SMN is shit now
Who RDM here?!

>>378639481

can i get a {Hasty Touch} {Rundown}?

AHHH WHAT THE FUCK SHOULD I LVL UP
I HAVE 60 DRG AND MHC, I DUNNO WHAT TANK SHOULD I FINISH LVLING WAR OR DRK BOTH ARE 56 LVL
WHAT ABOUT HEALERS? AST?

ALSO WHAT ABOUT MONK WILL HE GETS STORY MENTION LIKE ESTINIEN FROM DRG? SHOULD I LVL MONK OR DON'T BOTHER HE'S VERY BORING

>>378643824
>Build dat chakra or you will be kicked he said

What is the PLD of the DPS jobs? I want something simple to play in 4.0.

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>mfw PLD WAR AST SCH SAM NIN BRD RDM master shillblood static

Asssize

>>378643926
BRD

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>WARGODS CONFIRMED
>SCHGODS CONFIRMED
>MONKUCKS CONFIRMED
>WHMKEKS CONFIRMED
Truly the best timeline.

>>378643926
MNK

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This is how a man high on crystal meth balances his game

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>>378639648
I just want to fuck lalafell in general.

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Post your reaction when finding out about White Mage.

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>DUDE LET'S MAKE THE BEST RAIDING JOB EVEN BETTER LMAO
This makes fucking Legion look balanced

>>378643594
https://www.fonts.com/font/typeproject/axis-font-japanese/complete-family-pack

You got $2600 to spare? This is a normal price for a custom font. Typography is a strange industry.

>>378643964
Dude, BRD will get more complicated in 4.0. Bards will have to think!

>>378644017
I hope you get caught one day and go to prison for life

Mr Happy getting mad.

>>378643831
Literally no reason to bring a mnk now. It's just a job with shitty party buffs and high damage. Nin/drg will still be the optimal melee dps while Sam will even be more worthwhile to fights than a mnk. Cucked out of their own expansion! You can't make this shit up!

>streamer just confirmed SAM going by far the most damage in the game
>way too high potency

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>>378644042

So, how's drg? Is he just a Battle Litany bitch now? He used to deal decent dps, but now a fucking nin got and a sam do much more dps. And what did drg get? Easier BotD and small potency buffs. Is it even worth to get him for tryhard static.

>>378644014
I don't see what's wrong with this.

>STONESKIN IS GONE

WAT

>>378644014
Does this make Nocturnal viable for dungeons finally? I cant see Noct AST and SCH happening still.

>>378644014
So Benefic is better but Adloquium is better if crit?

The level 63 or 64 dungeon drops ilvl 270 gear.

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>>378644042
We need pic related only with the WHM and AST swapped.

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>Impact has an incredibly cool animation
>will never be used outside of those 1 out of 100 situations where you're capped on both Black and White Mana and the boss is doing a melee AoE to prevent just jumping in and doing your melee shit

>>378644217
Yes, and? Sounds about the same thing as HW from ARR.

>>378644182

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>>378644042
Three more years in the cuck shed I guess.

>>378644217
That's the same as in HW. Sohm al dropped 130.

Why do they hate WHM so much? Thankfully RDM looks pretty cool and is one of the few FF jobs I would drop WHM for. Can't say I'm happy about my favorite healer and main job getting retired into the cuckshed though.

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>SCH has 2 DOTs
Is this our own Warlords of Draenor?

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>>378642610
Now, I feel we're jumping the gun here. Not having to swap to Cleric Stance and lock yourself out of healing for a period mixed with good ol Plenary here means WHM is more free to exercise their DPS rights. And then you've got Lillies to make Assize come back faster, and Thin Air making the occasional Holy spam-fest totally free.

WHM has always had extremely strong DPS, they've just had trouble finding the opportunity to use it - with proper usage of Confession stacks to basically get a free GCD every now and again, WHM may be the patrician's choice.

>>378644278
Hey they got you Stone 4, maybe Aero 4 too. Don't get too sad.

>>378644250
You wait for the proc and you chaincast into it, nerd

>>378644317
everyone lost a dot so it balances out. But Bane is fucked so scholars damage is fucked.

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>>378644107
>mutilate removed
>shadow fang applies all your dots
so glad i leveled nin.

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>>378644042
I'm literally in POTD right now leveling SCH.

>Disembowel still gives piercing debuff
>DRG is the only one to give that debuff too
Are they retarded?

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>>378644042
I still like all healers equally

>>378643594
Hey, guy who made some of the fake leaks here.
The fonts are pretty expensive, but looking really deep into Google will get you them on some very shady websites. Good luck guessing the keywords.

>>378644328
t. white mage
Back in the shed. Leave healer roles to the scholar-kings.

>>378644332
>chaincast into Impact instead of Verthunder/aero

Why is MCH getting even harder to play for no real benefit? Setting up perfect ammo rotations to flow with the cooldowns for reload/quick reload, maxing when to use reassemble with regards to keeping it on cooldown as often as possible, maxing out wildfire usage, and now a balancing act with the heat mechanics to peak your dps without hitting overheat or getting it too low and losing potency.

I'll stick with BRD for an easier kit and better results

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>>378644042
a-at least we get short cd assize and free holly spam. h-h-hahaha we are still best d-dungeon healer

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WHY DID THEY TAKE AWAY STONESKIN

WHAT

THE

FUCK

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>>378644339
SCH lost TWO DOTs between 2.0 and now.

The fact that the game peaked in fucking 2.0 is making me laugh.

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>>378644435
Now you can spam Cure 1 for those procs :)

>>378643875
Even ignoring the underwater areas, those seem to be way more maps than Heavensward.

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>>378644402
>Ruin 2: HAS A CAST TIME

No lie Samurai looks beast as fuck. They got the damage of MNK and the mobility of NIN. Definitely gonna have a raid spot.

>>378644423
>thinking MCH was ever hard to play
lol
I played MCH in HW for the sole reason because it was braindead easy

>>378643969
>SAM aoe DPS

new dungeon meta

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>>378644115
For what?

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>They buff jobs that were already good
>Nerf and/or neglect the ones that needed buffs
This is hilarious.

>SAM
>60 second DoT is 940 total potency
>720 potency attack
>800 potency oGCD
>ability that would increase the next weapon skill potency by 150%, use a weapon skill that would have 1800 potency

HMMMMMM I fucking wonder what Yoshi wants to say.

>>378644574
PLD proves you wrong

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>My main job traded in most of her damage multipliers and big dick hits for more smaller dick hits and one big but unaspected big dick hit once every 30-59 seconds. Also something about healer succubi trying to steal my wizard powers from me by asking me for my mana all the time. I'm not falling for that shit, lol!

>SAM is now THE big dick hits job with no utility besides throwing goad at someone and people with blades benefiting from the slash debuff.

I'm switching main.

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>WHM

>>378644561
Where can I find good, sexy lalafel art? Asking as an objective for a fetch quest, of course...

>>378644404
I actually haven't played WHM since 1st Coil, I'm just thinking of how it will actually pan out. AST got some interesting stuff, but their utility stays pretty much the same. SCH got the enemy-based Battle Littany and Bane got fucked, but it got a set and forget Lustrate, so it's a little more useful than before DPS wise.

But WHM has some fairly strong off cooldown heals now, and no need to stance dance at all, you could probably get by just full DPS and using only oGCDs to heal most the time.

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>>378644107
AYYY LMAO FUCK ALL MNK THAT TALKED SHIT ON NIN

THIS IS WHAT YOU GET HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA YOURE STILL A SHIT CLASS DELET MNK

BELIEVE IT

>>378642991

Couldn't they get someone without a cold to do the narration?

>>378644626
"Samurai is really really strong. We encourage you to play it." - Yoshida playing Samurai at the Live Letter

Holy shit that flamethrower looks really co-
>6 potency
>Only used to build heat

WHAT A FUCKING HACK

MNK is so fucked I don't even think a Balance tier buff would fix them.

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>The Azim Steppe theme

>20% chance for Cure/Cure 2 to give a Lily
>Need 3 lilys to provide cooldown reduction equal to The Spear
>only works on one spell then goes away
>at best reduces one OGCD ability by ~18 seconds
>but hey, here's a worse Stoneskin and a 12 second Holy spam button

man, WHM got fucked.

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>Dragoons buffed in basically everything
>Still the only one with Piercing debuff
What the literal fuck are they doing?

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WHERE ARE THE MNKS NOW
MY FUCKING SIDES SO MUCH FOR SPAMMING THE KEK PICS
BACK TO BEING IRRELEVANT

>>378644626
Samurai's potencies are fucking absurd and more than make up for their lack of utility.

Now is the time of the Ninja and the Samurai. Bow down lesser DPS, we will carry you to victory.

>>378644539
Always feels like I'm playing far below suboptimal due to ammo management affecting so much. I might just be bad though

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>When you use Earthly Star under that effect the damage jumps to 200 and the heal tops out at a whopping 900 potency which is heads and shoulders above any heal currently in the game.

h-h-h-hahaha-ah-h-hahaha

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>>378644660
Just skim pixiv.

>khloe

OP's a faggot but he had good taste

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Post classic images that will never see the light of day again

>>378644783
>more than make up for their lack of utility
More like why do they have to have utility when they hit like a goddamn airplane on a runway. That's "more than make up".

>>378644864
Still relevant desu

>Turning old prevents you from being seduced by the Ruby Princess.
What did they mean by this?

>>378644818
b-but benediction...

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>>378644864
I-ITS STILL IN DEVELOPMENT

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I'm still playing WHM regardless of what happens. This is too cute and the job UI is the best.

I'm actually looking forward to going through levels 50-60 again just because everyone will be experimenting with all the new combat changes.

Also Sprint no longer uses TP, so there's no excuse not sprint in every dungeon.

>>378644894
Relevant as an example of how to shoot yourself in the foot.

>>378644874
I expect SAM to get nerfed within a patch or two. Shit is just bonkers. Abilities which increase party DPS by 5% mean shit all when you're going to be dealing practically double the damage of any other job.

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>>378644818
NOOOOOOOOOOO THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE WHITE MAGE'S TURN THIS EXPANSION

>>378644517
Yeah I'm liking what I'm seeing so far in terms of areas

>>378644107
>thinking they'd nerf NIN in the NIN expansion
kek

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>MNK and WHM main
at least i have WAR

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>>378644943
i plan to level whm first for smooth qeues and jumping to nin for raids. hang in there whm bro they might buff us when they see how badly we are bullied.

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>>378644780
IDK BUT I SAVED THIS PIC FROM EARLIER AND NOW ITS I R R E L E V A N T

NOW I CAN DELET THIS PIC, JUST LIKE EVERYONE IS GONNA DELET MNK

FUCK U MNK HAHAHA BEELIEVE IT

IM GONNA RASENGA THIS PIC INTO MY RECYCLING BIN HAHAHAHA GIVE ME MORE MNK TEARS I LOVE THEM

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>Main and mend now affects faeries
And people through embrace was going away.

>>378644864
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DELET THIS

>>378644938
Least there's this from the gamerescape article:
>Why was Tornado Kick’s cooldown lowered to 10 seconds? Will it turn out that Tornado kick could be used more often somehow? We’ll have to see it in practice!

Maybe there's some stuff they're still holding back, like Tornado Kick only reducing GL by 1 or something now.

Monk is dead

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>Cover unchanged
>Tempered Will still has a 3 minute cooldown
>Bulwark still has a 3 minute cooldown
>Hallowed Ground still has a 7 minute cooldown and takes a year to activate
>Still doesn't have more than one combo before lvl 50

I like the new abilities and all but I really wish that they would go back and buff the abilities that need it the most.

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>be blm
>happy times don't really think much of SB
>see this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZetK6pi0Xdc

>nerfs
>SO MANY FUCKING NERFS
>cry myself to sleep as I consider class changing

Why did this happen to me?

guys I want to make a goth lolita au ra. can someone give me sliders or saved character data? I'm not autistic/creative enough to make one.

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>diving underwater triggers a loading screen
32-BIT OS LIMITATIONS

>Join Dungeon group
>WHM Healer


your reaction?

>>378645108
i'm still worried they fucked with the fairies in some way because there's literally no preview that shows their skills

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>>378639481
I want an energetic Mithra girlfriend who lets me kiss her feet

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So, monk's new weapon is the noose?

>>378644943
I seriously can't believe how hard they fucked WHM. The changes legitimately make it worse than it is now since so many of their abilities were pilfered for cross-role that they can't even take all the ones they used to have, and their new abilities are not only completely reliant on RNG but also weak as fuck compared to what SCH and AST get.

>>378645069
As long as it has more heal CDs that don't use MP I would be pretty happy with it. Means more useful heals without worrying about MP so much which is my main gripe with WHM now.

IS THAT TRUE THAT DIVING UNDERWATER IS A SEPARATE LOCATION WITH A FUCKING LOADING SCREEN

>MT DRK without Grit now just plays like OT DRK

>>378645186
Is Yoshida really a genius?

>>378645145
Fun is unbalanced

WHERE ARE ALL THESE CHANGES LISTED

>>378644812
>ammo "management"
You're overthinking ammo.
You simply pop Reload for your 123 when your Hot Shot/Lead Shot don't need to be reapplied in the next 15 seconds.
Use Quick Reload whenever it comes off cooldown, except for when you need to reapply Hot/Lead.
Use Reassemble with a Clean Shot proc.

Your oGCD usage is basically set in stone, there's no real management here.

>>378645115
The job action video still shows it as consuming all stacks of GL. I guess they reduced it to 10s because you'd have to be retarded to use it on cooldown anyway, even at 40s.

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>>378644818
>lets give ast all utility
>lest give ast a free better cure3 insta cast that also deals damage
>lets let them convert all their shit cards into heals or dps
>lets give the a insta cast pre stacked deck with best effects
>lets give ast divine seal and shroud

hmmm what else should we give ast?

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Don't worry WHM every time we use shroud of saints we will remember your sacrifice

>>378645194
It's ok my job is fucked too

>>378645329
I think AST needs a skill that lets them heal a person to full HP instantly.

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JESUS FUCKING CHRIST

WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS

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>>378643875

This might sound like a nitpick, but what the fuck is it with Japs and extremely loud footsteps? It drowns out the music and distracts from the scenery.

>>378645145
Dude you are not Summoner and Red Mage has no MP regeneration. Black Mage is going to be the best caster.Casters will not be used in raids though. All hail Ninja+Bard+Dragoon and Samurai

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>>378645387
Perhaps now you will respect the content, speedshitter.

>>378645387
Almost all AoE abilities are being nerfed in the same way.

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>People think MNKs got cucked
>Forbidden Chakra is a OGCD
>MNKs get a trait where they get a free chakra stack whenever something crits
We've ascended above you mere mortals
The new trait looks really powerful if it applies to DoTs because with only MNK having 30% internal release and two dots

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>Meditating during downtime.

>The Monk Expansion
>-10 potency on everything
>-70 potency on Forbidden Chakra
>Lost Touch of Death and Fracture
>Dragon Kick no longer reduces int
>30% chance to gain Mantra on a crit.
>Their b4b replacement gives them -30% Skill Speed

>>378645387
Oh quit your bitching and be happy you aren't WHM.

So MNK, SCH, SMN, and WHM are officially in the cuck'd shed right?

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>>378645387
HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO BE A BIOTERRORIST NOW YOSHI?
HOW?

>>378645459
It's not whenever something crits, it's a 30% chance on crits.

>>378645387
if you try to join a dungeon farm in PF today you'll see the DPS slots locked to BLM or SMN
fuck you marginal speed running shitters

>>378644042
Whats wrong with White Mage now? I'll need a quick run down.

>"What really stood out to us was how...clunky going underwater was. When diving, we were met by a semi-long loading screen that even had our moderator comment about it. The entire transition was just completely bad and there's no good way to put it. Once underwater, it wasn't too exciting. Square Enix has promised there's more to see in Stormblood proper, but being met with loading screens like this just makes us ask how World of Warcraft managed it in 2004, but Final Fantasy can't in 2017."

>>378645329
I don't know why they didn't think of giving AST Stoneskin. If they're so adamant on making AST THE healer of SB, why not go all the way and make it even more hilariously overpowered?

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>>378645387
>expansion making a MMO worse
Never seen before.

>>378645508
you need 2 healers so sch will never be in the cuckshed until dancer is released.

>>378645387
>judging skills in a vacuum
Did you forget that you have mini-Bahamut and his MOTHERFUCKING AKH MORN to help with AoE now?
No shit they need to nerf existing AoE if they add more of it.

>>378645506
STONE 4
T
O
N
E
4

>>378645245
Yep

>>378645459
>free chakra stack whenever something crits

Except that's not what's happening
a 30% chance to gain a stack on a crit which is RNG on top of RNG

>>378645459
30% chance to get free Chakra fuckboy

>>378645508
SCH lost bane but its healing is better and the fariy isn't gutted. Also it has Broil II and a crit debuff. It will still be good but worse than AST because AST is now even more of an overturned monstrosity.

Rest is correct though

>>378645443
But RDM will have access to Lucid Dream at least.
>>378645576
>Dancer
>Healer
Nice meme

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Someone give me a quick rundown on playing SCH. Do I need to bind pet abilities, or only some of them? Do I leave the pet on auto, and which one should I even use? The only thing that kept me from playing SCH before was the pet, never been a fan of pet classes.

>>378645564
>Let's quadruple down on WHM being a pure healer.

>>378645508
AST is new king
SCH is good tier
WHM is eternally cucked.

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>this fucking trainwreck
F2P when?

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>Cleared floor 200 of potd in a group
>Cleared over floor 100 solo
>Got the mount, minions, music and barding

I'm free, I'm finally free

>>378645613
What SCH actually gives two shits about healing and isn't just playing it because they want healer queues while still being a pretend DPS?

Ewer and Spire are now always aoe. because ast just wasn't good enough

>>378645564
Layer upon layer of RNG just for 'better' heals.

>>378645508
No, SCH is okay and WHM is in the grave.

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I knew it. They're turning Red Mage and Summoner into the same fucking job

so it seems we got

Samurai and Ninja = same job
Monk and Dragoon = same job
Machinist and Bard = same job
Red Mage and Summoner = same job

AND NOW...

Dark Knight, Warrior, and Paladin = same job

sure is same-y in here

Nope, MMO genre destroyed by this expansion. It's done. Throw it in the garbage. This game is finished.

Yoshi P is a literal hack

>>378645564
Instead of giving it any group utility they focused entirely on keeping it as a pure healer, except their new mechanics are all RNG reliant and yet still manage to be weaker than what SCH and AST are getting.

>>378645194
What's wrong it WHM in a dungeon?
They already basically just dps 90% of the time in dungeons and just heal with hots between pulls and instants.

Dungeons are like the only place they are still fun to play.

>>378645645
You should have already accepted WHM will always be a pure healer in HW. It will never change.

>>378645308
Thanks anon. That's basically what I've been trying to do to keep myself sane. I sometimes waste ammo on hot/lead but I feel that'll get better with practise (especially since I'm only 38 on MCH atm).

Is it worth continuing levelling with the upcoming changes or do I roll BRD instead?
I can't tell if the MCH cuckshed meme is a a meme or truth

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>>378645702
>>378645749
>RNG on a healer
Pass.

>>378645304

answer!

>>378645742
How the fuck is red mage anything like summoner?

Are you just retarded?

>>378645761
this. it will be even better with short assize cooldown and free holy spam with no mp shortage.
we are kinda fucked for raid though

>>378645582
Akh Morn uses an Enkindle which has a long-ass recast time. Demi Bahamut isn't really good, just a boringly buffed Egi.

>>378645817
But AST

>>378645742
If your knee jerked any harder it'd hit you in the face.

>>378645742
None of those play anything like each other

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>>378645491
>mnks
>using fracture

anyone have an image of the RDM and SAM icons? all i can seem to find is either fanmade ones or the icon reveal from the liveletter with blurred and offcenter icons

I don't think there's been a job as fucked as WHM will be in 4.0 since WAR in 2.0.

>>378645316
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIUyXs2hpT0
So pretty much every main rotation weaponskill has its potency nerfed by 10 (removing a whole tick of Demolish), and Touch of Death is taken away, also Dragon Kick no longer provides utility of ANY sort to anyone else but a monk stacked party, Forbidden Chakra nerfed by 20%...

And the buffs are 5% on Twin Snakes, a 30% chance to get a chakra on weaponskill crit (not oGCDs), and a once in a while kind of crappy group buff that lets you get some more Chakra. Oh and Riddle of Fire.

I kinda feel like they legitimately hate Monks

>>378645506
FUCK YOU I'M A SMN/SCH AND WHM

>>378645856
Akh Morn is based on a separate "Enkindle Bahamut" ability with a 13 second recast. You can use it twice every time you summon him. Learn to fucking read.

>>378645850
So just take AST for raids and WHM for dungeons. You should be leveling all healers to 70 asap if you main one of them. And don't tell me you don't already have all of them at 60.

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>>378645281
>saved Square Enix from going bankrupt
>went from being common employee to godfather of square enix management
>re-invented how the MMO genre is played with controllers
>found the opportunity to make a new datacenter exclusively for their north american audience so they can capture fleeing North American WoW subscribers

>>378644818
To be fair, it rewards people who know the encounter well enough to time out a 10 second window on a raidwide attack.

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Who here SAM and laughing at old and busted shit classes fighting each other?

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NIN REPOST FROM PREVIOUS THREAD FOR THOSE WHO DIDNT CATCH IT:

>BHAVACAKRA 500 POTENCY
>CHAIN NINJITSUS (780 POTENCY) + TRICK ATTACK RIGHT AFTER
>HIDE RESETS NINJITSU TIMER SO NO MORE 20SEC WAIT
>OUR FROG AT THAT SPAWNS FROM HELL MEANS WE GONNA ACTUALLY FUCKING AOE NOW BOYS
>E-Z SLASHING BUFF NOW THAT DOESNT FUCK OUR DPS
>NO MORE MUTILATE, INSTEAD ALL OF OUR DAMAGE OUTPUT GOT BUFFED, NO NERFS

BELIEVE IT

PS: ALL THE MNK MAINS THAT TALKED SHIT ON US GOT C U C K E D SO THEY'RE GETTING RASENGA'D BACK TO THE TRASH CAN HAHAHAHAHAHA

Summoner looks good. Sure bane gets nerfed, but the increased dot time on bio and miasma, the party buff, and double ahk morn damage make up for it

rdm will probably be better from prog though

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>turning WHM into a russian roulette machine

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>monks left in the dust
>We'll leave ala mhigo probably level 62 for glorious nippon
Could we have asked for anything better?

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DUDE FIVE HOURS LMAO

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>>378645937
>MNK's mains face

>>378645917
yes monks used fracture
whenever there is a point where DK/TS and demolish won't fall off and ToD still has at least about 10 seconds left you use fracture, you just don't keep it up 100%
some fights you just don't use it at all because of TP issues

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>>378645836
https://gamerescape.com/2017/05/30/ffxiv-stormblood-role-analysis-casters/
>mfw monk

>>378645917
Yes. Its part of their opener and their highest potency attack when they can't hit a positional. Its also used when they don't need to refresh touch of death and demolish has an extra tick left.

>>378645917
Shitter detected

>>378645194
WHM is still top tier in dungeons for their AoE damage. Its raids where they provide nothing.

>>378645917
>He didn't use Fracture

Shitter monk detected

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>>378646039
>T-THIS IS OUR EXPANSION

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>>378645837
>How the fuck is red mage anything like summoner?

Red Mage has ressurection

Red Mage LITERALLY has Summoner's spell potencies, instead of getting bonus damage through pets you get bonus damage through chainspells and swiftcasts.

IT's the same job with the SAME FUCKING UTILITY. Enjoy!!!!!

>>378645882
>i'm retarded
Samurai and Ninja are both slash resistance classes, stacking them will never happen

Monk and Dragoon are both int debuff classes, stacking them will never happen

Bard and Machinist are both supportish classes, stacking them will never happen

Red Mage and Samurai are both ressurection classes, stacking them will never happen

Anon, you are the one that is retarded and cannot understand meta.

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What's the communal kneejerk reaction to BLM? Foul seems like the only truly new attack spell and it's disappointing if the goal is still getting in as many Fire IVs as humanly possible.

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>SMN main
>get bahamut
>lose bane/ruin II
I've won, but at what cost
at least i still have my DRG

>>378645508
SMN is for sure:

>Bane is now >>378645387
>Fester only tracks Bio III and Miasma III so it loses 100 potency
>We lost contagion and raging strikes, but this is minimal because Tri-Disaster now refreshes every time you enter Dreadwyrm and Bio 3/Miasma 3 are now a thing so they'll make up for the loss of DPS
>We're getting Ruin IV, but it's tied to a proc. The proc will also shorten the recast of enkindle by 10 seconds
>We get a raid wide party buff for damage dealt and received.
>Bahamut gets his own special version of Enkindle on a 13 second recast timer. Since Bahamut trance is 20 seconds, we can use Akh Morn twice per trance, since using Enkindle doesn't take you out of Bahamut trance.
>Ruin 2 may well have a cast time, Shadow flare no longer does.
>We can still resurrect and heal. Virus is now something all casters can use and it doesn't give immunity anymore so all casters can spam it.

I haven't checked to see if Aetherflow and Energy Drain still give us MP refresh.

>>378645961
i did level them but just cannot stand the anoying constant card mechanic or pet micro management on top of all the babysiting the raid and dealing with the boss shit.

ill be going dps this expansion. good luck solo healing ast bros.

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Was asleep the whole time. What happened to MNKs? Just a few days ago MNKs were calling themselves DPS kings.

>>378646039
I'm torn between feeling sad about WHMs and feeling like Yoshi is a god for cucking MNKs

>>378646157
You're a special kind of stupid. Stop posting please.

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>DRG
>lost 1 dot
>lost power surge so no BIG DICK jump damage anymore
>geir on 35 sec cd
>level 62 skill is just aoe combo
But dude increased potency LMAO
>mfw SAM potency

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>>378645917
>He didn't use fracture for 0.3% dmg increase

So what's the meta going to be brothers

>>378645813
BRD is getting a lot of good stuff, while MCH is losing its DoT and Hypercharge is also getting nerfed.
We'll have to see how it plays out, but on paper BRD looks like it's absolutely gonna shit on MCH.

>>378645508
SCH is completely fine and got a raid buff. They took a hit to AoE damage due to bane nerf, but its not the end of the world. These rumors about fairies no longer working the same were unfounded, and they now are affected by meme and mend. Plus nowhere did it ever say they died when the meter ran out.

>>378645742
Please keep your spam contained to one thread >>178388115

>>378646231
I'm sorry, my fellow Monk friend
I saved you a spot in the shed

>>378646231
>>378645491

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hey need a chainspell rez bro?

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>>378646118

IT'S A NIN/SAM WEABOO'S WORLD NOW BOYS. THIS IS OUR EXPANSION BITCH WE TOOK OVER

>>378646242
m8
5 HIT COMBOS

>>378646231
We got pushed back to cuckshed, I hope they undo the potency nerf at least if they don't plan to buff the Brother hood to at least 50%.

>>378645917
t. "I've literally never gotten above the grey percentile"

>>378646296
I'm an AST fuckboy.

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With Foes gone, why would you even bring a caster?

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Official list of Cuckshed jobs:

>DRK
>WHM
>BRD
>MNK
>SCH
>SMN

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>>378645742
>15 jobs that are less unique than the original 9 at launch
I knew this would happen since Yoshifuck kept refusing to add customization saying that adding new jobs would be better.

>>378646242
>STILL the only source of piercing debuff
>brd slot is locked in so hard they drag drg with them

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>MCH lost its dot

U FOCKIN WOT

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>>378646327
>pushed back

you never left

Which jobs made out like a bandit? Obviously dont list the new two.

>>378646423
PLD, AST, and BLM

>>378646397
Just like 3.0

>>378646294
>178388115
Do you not understand linking?

>drk only has two combos now
>optimal weaponskill rotation seems to be souleater combo -> souleater combo -> souleater combo, repeat until dead
bringing back those 2.X paladin memes eh

>>378646423
At a glance AST looks to have done the best.

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>>378644660
Jyujiro/E10 on pixiv.

>>378646373
Dumb retard

>>378646384
DRK is fine you retard, its WAR in the cuckshed.

>>378646384
>BRD
>cuckshed
Clinically retarded?

>>378645976
>tfw can whip out nearly 3000 potency in a little over 1 GCD
I can't wait to straight up delete adds.

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>WHM actually better than ever
>No more having to toggle CS and fuck up heals
>Perma CS with actual CS just damage boosting for 30 seconds
>Can effortlessly heal and damage

Where were you when WHM was best healer?

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>>378646421
W-We'll see when the game is release! They will buff the numbers!

>>378645491
>-30% skill speed
What the fuck? That sounds like an awful trade off compared to b4b. It's like they really want to force you to play SAM. So mnk is to sam in what pld was to drk in HW.

>>378646454
How the fuck did BLM make out like bandits nearly everything was nerfed
>>378646423
PLD for the most part got just straight buffs across the board

>>378645210
Seeing the reddit video SCH gameplay.
The SCH adloed himself for 4600 while embrace hit for 2600, both at level 70
On comparison I can adlo on live for 4100 with 2900 embraces
Roused WD heals around 1400 a tick on both live and the
So yeah, the faeries got nerfed, but not by much.
It seems healing power overall increases very little from level 60 to level 70 live, Broil II was doing noticeably more damage that current Stone III, both same potency.

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WHAT THE F-FUCK BROS

IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A MNK EXPANSION, FIRST WE GOT KEKED IN THE TRAILER AND THEN IN THE GAME IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR

>Barrage won't triple proc Empyreal Arrow

Curses. There goes my easy 420 Pitch Perfect it

I was at the media tour. Before people get started on Samurai not having any raid utility, YoshiP stated there that the purpose of Samurai is synergy with all Jobs and to "carry" raid damage. According to him, the issues Monks currently face will not be present in Stormblood at all due to how fights are now designed. White Mages though, I'm so sorry, but every single White Mage main changed Jobs pretty quickly and gave tons of negative feedback to the changes. I think the majority of them had settled on Astrologian by the end of the day. Samurai was a big hit, Red Mage was well received but not completely. Machinist had bad feedback while Bard had a lot of positive responses. Black Mages liked their changes, while Summoners aren't too happy from what I saw.

Monk is dumpster tier, however. One of the guys next to me was a Monk main with Savage raids under his belt, and he just fucking hated it. The rotation is clunky to him and everything played poorly. He asked the SE rep if he could get some skillspeed gear to play around with stats and he was told no. Whatever the default set up was for gear just flat out made playing Monk awful. On the flip side, Dragoons and Ninjas are amazing. I thought Goad going cross-class would be bad, but no way. Ninja got so much to make up for it and they do absurd damage on top of it. Blood of the Dragon upkeep is 100% easier now and all the new Dragoon skills feel great. I just have no idea what the fuck they were thinking with Monk. They didn't fix it, they destroyed it.

Will RDM be great?
Or will I stick with DRG?
Two weeks to figure this one out.

>>378646263
PLD
WAR
SCH
AST
SAM
NIN
RDM
BLM

>>378646473
Power Slash combo has higher potency than no-DA Soul Eater combo

>>378646242
>lost power surge so no BIG DICK jump damage anymore
Did they forget that jumping is literally what defined DRG?

>>378639481

All the info condensed into one place yet?
The general does not even care about anything but tranny erp still so no help there.

>PLD only gets Oath from Sword Oath autoattacks and Shield Oath blocks
That's pretty bad.

>>378645387
Jesus Christ, what the fuck?

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I honestly think this skill is mistranslated.

It's probably "increase weaponskill damage TO 150%", not BY.

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MNKS STOP POSTING
GO PREP THE BULLS NIN AND SAM

>>378646263
>meta
>in a game where you mash buttons against sponges

HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>378646601
Don't worry, we'll still let you run POTD with us. Sometimes.

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woah so this is the power of 2.5s gcd, combat still looks boring as shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=66&v=a4gZ9yuQJ9c

>>378646586
permanent enochian means everything got buffed

>>378646224
>>378645961
>Play FFXIV casually for fun with friends and grinding on my own
>Still not 60 on my WHM
It might be less relevant since i don't hit new content right as it drops but this is depressing

>>378646702
https://gamerescape.com/2017/05/31/hands-on-with-final-fantasy-xiv-stormblood/
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/6eeshi/rffxivs_handson_preview_of_stormblood/

Don't blame the general because you're too dumb to find stuff.

>>378646201
>enkindle for bahamut is 13 sec cd
seriously? where's this?

>>378646674
>putting aggro combos in the main rotation again
drk will be either forced to slot shirk or still fucking suck at offtanking, i guess its now the only tank with aggro in its rotation for mting since royal authority combos off riot blade now though

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>>378646591
Their item levels in the videos are only 20 higher than what you can reach right now in best in slots so only getting 10% higher numbers or so isn't that weird.

>>378645210
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW7R7QM5X18&t=8m38s
Nothing changed.
Selene is still useless.

>>378646319
Combos are the epitome of bad game design

>>378646601
>monk relevant when 'goon exists

>>378646723
The only thing I dislike is that they didnt get a damage dump for their gauge. When mobbing I was hoping for some kind of AoE alongside eclipse. What good is spamming sheltron in AoE, or a tether to an ally?

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>3 years of SCH/AST healer meta
I'M READY

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WE

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>>378646061
So if I remember right I'll generally run about a 25% crit rate, maybe as low as 20% sometimes on Monk. As a strict thought formula of potency per second, Twin Snakes' buff makes up for most the 10s lost everywhere, making them more like a 1% loss overall probably. The tick on Demolish sucks but may sync up with a 'once every 3 rounds' now that there's no ToD or Fracture to consider, but it's still a like 35 potency loss.

Let's be generous to Riddle of Fire and just call it a wash with B4B.

So given Bootshine's guaranteed crit state, let's just say 1 in 4 attacks gives a chakra, so every 20 GCDs generally (60s) we'll have a free 250 potency attack. And every 90s we have 15s of other nearby melee players having a 30% to grace us with a Chakra, so assuming 2 tanks and another melee, let's just call it a chakra per GCD, 5 GCDs and some change, we'll get another free 250 potency every 90 seconds. So across 3 minutes, 5 Forbidden Chakras. 1250 potency, or an additional 415 or so extra potency a minute.

Overall this is probably a gain on our potency per minute that we have now, but it certainly does not feel like a buff.

>>378646815
Never mind, found it

>>378646473
Spinning Slash + Power Slash does less damage than Syphon Strike + Soul Eater without DA.

>>378646761
Monk can get up to 3.25 gcd with their new "buff" on.

>>378646921
What the fuck?

>>378646939
>>378646674
Meant for this guy.

>>378639648
I thought it was the catgirl (male) from RE:Zero at first

>>378646921
WAT

>>378646771
You could keep enochian up permanently before though if you weren't stupid. If you kept switching and using your blizzard 4 as you should you'd eventually get to the point where enochian was off cooldown and you never lost it. SO all that really happened was minus dmg on the new core rotation of blizzards, a useless buff on flare, nerfing dots to make them literally never viable. Since casting them will mean not casting fire 4 so its just a waste of time.

Only thing good is 3 sec return to leylines and thats it.

>>378646921
I really doubt they'll let this work on unstunnable bosses

>>378645937
They removed the trait for Twin Snakes so nothing changed there.

>>378646917
>Played AST since 3.0
I've always been ready.

>>378646921
Does this mean you can stun bosses?

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NIN WAS SAVED

ALL THE NAYSAYERS PROVEN WRONG

GET FUCKED MNK, BE GRATEFUL YOU DONT HAVE TO ASK NIN FOR A GOAD ANYMORE BECAUSE I NEVER GOADED MNK ANYWAY BECAUSE FUCK YOU THATS WHY

MNK CAN PICK UP MY SLOPPY SECONDS, WE DONT NEED GOAD ANYMORE HAVE FUN WITH IT

>>378646761
>1:41
Ageha is a gory looking move

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Some of these changes make me wish to stay in 3.5

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>these changes
Why would they do this? It's fucking awful.

>>378646384

BRD just isn't the autopilot job it used to be any more. Which means overall their output will be reduced as many tards play bard

Can we freeze time and not move to Stormblood?

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>>378647115
>tfw you played all 3 since 3.0

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>>378646930
Of course it won't feel like a buff when they nerfed the fuck out of personal potency, now you'll need to relying on other fags to feed you chakra otherwise you'll do worst than before.

>>378639481
>Mr.happy earlier saying no stream because ill
>info gets released
>20+ videos released
>LIVE STREAMING

Fuck off you fat cunt.

>>378647053
With umbral hearts, possibly mp regen cross class skill and with no enochian to care about you can spend a lot more time casting more Fire IV's how is that not a damage increase, you also get a 650 potency aoe attack every 30 seconds. Of course if you only think in potencies it's going to look lower.

>>378646618
did yoshida react to the whm negativity?

>>378647196
Can we go back in time to 1.23b and just move forward from there

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>>378647127
keep your mouth shut when you're prepping me, ninboi

>>378646921
Probably wouldn't work on bosses or it would trivialize the game. Wondering what they're referring to. Maybe PvP.

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>Fire IV is now 260
>no longer 500 potency in astral fire III

>Take away one of bards level 50 skills
>And 400 other skills
>Get nothing to replace it?

So which other classes just dont get a skill at level 50 any more?

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>>378646921
Anon,

stop dreaming.

It says STUN NULLIFYING EFFECTS, so if the boss pops a debuff that makes it immune to stun you can still stun it, and it might be immune to the 'debuff resistance' bosses build up as you use debuffs

but bosses that are naturally immune to stun will still be immune to stun

you do not understand game design

LET US IMAGINE A WORLD WHERE ONE IIM PUNCH CAN STUN LITERALLY ANYTHING

PLD: WTF I DIED
WHM: HOW?
PLD: THE MONK DIDN'T ONE IIM PUNCH TH BOSSES TANKBUSTER ATTACK
WHM: WTF MNK?
MNK: I WAS IN THE WRONG STANCE IM SORRY GUYS
-votekick-

>>378647207
3 what? Healers?

Me too.

>>378647276
>Didnt read the new stuff

The tiny group buff doesnt mean shit compared to what nin just got

>>378647160
I want 2.0 back when BLM had mroe aoe than they knew what to do with. When I was a god and everyone wanted me in their dungeons and raids, I was required. The mighty have fallen so low now.

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>>378647127
Here you can have my goad.

>>378646423
WAR

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>>378647276

HEY MNK I NEED A GOAD
GIVE ME A GOAD BITCH, IM CARRYING YOUR ASS WITH MY

H I G H
E N E R G Y
N I N
D P S

>>378646473
what the fuck? why would you do this and also remove scourge?

>>378647093
Oh, good point I didn't read that very closely. So yeah more of a blanket 5% nerf on all damage in exchange for 415 extra potency per minute, and that's being optimistic.

You could try and speed up your weaponskills by focusing on skill speed, but then you'd have to probably spend some of your chakra on TP, nullifying any point and once again shutting down any concept of gear variance in the game.

Boy this is fuckin depressing. I really like Monk. Good thing I already decided to roll Paladin to fill a niche in my group, this would be way more of a downer if I had actually resolved to stick with fisting.

>>378647217
As was pointed out above, I was wrong and Twin Snakes didn't get any buff, so it's certainly a blanket nerf probably barely balanced out by the extra potency Forbidden Chakra will overall add over the fight, and that's only optimally playing with an 8man group with another melee.

I'm disappointed. They just made the original meta jobs even stronger and samurai seems to be broken on arrival.

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>>378647407

THANK U KIND SAM R I

MANY DPS BLESSINGS WILL COME TO YOU, DONT WORRY PAL, HAVE THIS TRICK ATTACK IN RETURN

Explain whats so good about NIN now to someone who has never touched it and only roughly seen it its old skills.

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>>378647349
>implying the group shit matters when ALL DAY FORBIDDEN CHAKRA
boi

>Summoner loses Sustain

FOR WHAT PURPOSE?

I can't believe Warrior is fucking dead

>>378646157
It's better than summoner because your dps isn't tied to a shitty pet.