Guilty Gear Xrd

Spam TATAMI GAESHI.

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Sure is dead in here.

>>378630216
Hold the your katana sword with two han-

>>378630216
She's got some big fat tits, sfm when?

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>>378631843
I'm trying to learn Answer. I don't have much knowledge on how to play sword tits.

>>378630216
slow walk forward and distract the opponent with titties

>Dizzy still does not have 'Kiske' as a last name

what the fuck Dizzy, you already fucked and had a kid with Ky. Be a loyal girl and take his last name already.

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You could start off by not calling her bitch, pig :)

>>378630216
jump back tatami
neutral jump tatami an opponent waking up
iad tatami
neutral jump without tatami as a mixup

>>378632036
>>Dizzy still does not have 'Kiske' as a last name

japan doesn't work that way

>>378630216
You jerk off to her toes and quit the game.

How's the balance in Rev 2?

>>378630216
PC SOON

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>>378632763
Pretty good but changes weren't as big as I expected. Johnny and Sin are still top tiers while Pot and Ram are still low. I guess Jam is more or less playable now because of easier combos with puffballs.

>>378632839
How big are the gaps? Can the vast majority of characters still win consistently at any level?

Should I get this or Tekken?

>>378632906
I'm getting both.

>>378632897
Pot and Slayer are the shittiest characters, yet two of the strongest players right now are a Slayer and Pot player.

>>378632906
Getting both is the only sane choice.

>>378632906
Yeah both.

Tekken 7 will last like basically forever, while rev3 will come out in like 18 months.

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>>378632897
Not that big actually. Your skill plays a bigger role. But some characters require more work to win than others. Slayer is considerred low tier but go and play against good Slayer - after you'll die in two pilebunkers you'll seriously question whole tier lists idea.

>>378631843
god i want to gently hold hands with her and then let her peg me

>>378633465
>that webm
What the fuck?

>>378632906
Get Tekken. At least their fanbase isn't horrible as fuck like the western anime fanbase who just buy the latest arcsys game.

>>378633465
I just care about whether I can pick a character based on preference rather than "only these characters can win"

>>378633465
danger time was a mistake

>>378633578
Nah, don't care about that. Anyone can win especially at western skill levels. Some characters are just harder to master. So just see who you like and learn that character.

>>378633567
danger time randomly happens when two attacks clash. During danger time you can basically cancel into attacks in different ways and do things that are normally impossible. And everything that connects is a mortal counter, which is an even stronger version of a counter. And you have Slayer who has some of the meatiest specials in the game, and fighting Milia who's made of paper to begin with

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>>378632906
you better baiken it

Isn't Baiken really shit? Like Jam and Slayer level

>>378634131
Some JP list

S: CH, RV
A: KY, VE, EL, SI, JO, KU
B: IN, FA, MA, SL
C: SO, MI, RA, DI, JC, AX, JA, LE, AS, BE
D: ZA, PO, BA

Take it with a grain of salt as always

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>>378634131
I think she's on Jam's level and Jam is fine now. Her guard cancel azami is really weak though, I have no idea why they changed it like that.

>>378634189
>S: CH
nah

>>378634203
>I have no idea why they changed it like that.

solfags whined like the button mashing babbys they are and got their way. they couldn't go full unga bunga on her and had to actually think to be able to fight Baiken, now they took away her old style counters so solfags can unga without fear of requiring a functioning brain.

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>>378634131
maybe

>>378634528
Well yeah, it's most likely the reason but it's still bullshit. Especially considering how many unga characters Xrd have.

>>378634442
S might be a bit much, but he will be top 3 on every list.

He was already arguably top 5 and he got buffed for some reason.

>>378634131
Baiken is solid mid-tier. Jam is, too.
>>378634189
That list is all kinds of fucked.

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>>378630216
Space yourself at about sweep length and attack the opponent aggressively. Once you get them to the corner add mixups to your assault. If you land Tatami Gaeshi or a dust follow in the air with combo filler and use Yozanshen to keep them in the air as you land. Then corner juggle them with an air tatami gaeshi and end with her air dust. If you time it correctly you can use her 6k to hit them back into the corner from off the ground. Use YRC and block stances to cover for holes in her offense. Repeat until you hear SLASH. As someone who actually plays her, I will personally humiliate any secondaryfags I meet until they either quit or grow a pair and learn how to play.

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3 hours til unlock on steam. My baiken is ready.

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>This game will unlock in approximately 3 hours

>>378634189
>almost half the cast is in C tier
How is this okay?

>>378634189
Where's the cutoff for worth playing? A?

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>>378634528
Sad soldier since 1999 here. Baiken basically plays like a slightly different Sol now. Azami cancels are now made for punishing reversal attempts to get out of the corner.

How does Baiken compare to how she was in AC? She was the only fightan character I could consistently win with against higher level players.

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>>378635160
Tiers don't mean shit in GG because it's not nearly matchup dependent as other fighters. There are exceptions, like Axl vs Jack-O', though.

>>378634189
>D: ZA
This list is bullshit.

>>378635290
Her main gimmick is reworked and not that good now. And she lost curses. But she's quite solid based on what people doing with her, she can do very nice damage in the corner with dust loops.

>>378635160

The list is bullshit. In reality there are only a few characters that are far better than the rest, while all the others are more or less even.

>>378634189
>Slayer over half the cast
>Zato in D-tier
Is this Ogawa's troll list?

>>378635590
>In reality there are only a few characters that are far better than the rest
But that's even worse. It doesn't matter if 90% of the cast are balanced against each other if the remaining 10% will shit all over those 90%.

>>378634189
I'm retarded, who's RV?

>>378635952
Then why don't you just use one of the broken characters? I don't see what the problem is. How many viable characters a fighting game has barely ever matters anyway.

>>378635732
can't just unga bunga with zato

>>378636007
Revelator

Raven

>>378636007
Raven?

>>378635952
>if the remaining 10% will shit all over those 90%.
They don't.

>>378636104
>Revelator
Does he use a -SIGN- to attack?

>>378635952

The top tier don't really "shit on" anyone. Unlike SF, you can make up for having a technically bad matchup by having better matchup knowledge and general player skill. On top of that, most of the top tier are actually very difficult to play, so the average player will have little success trying to exploit their power.

>>378636439

Unless they pick Sin who is the most braindead S tier since Cable.

>>378636862

The keyword here is "most", anon.

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>>378635070
Holy fug neat. Haven't bought it yet, waiting for GMG or some other cheaper site to get it from.

>>378630216
>>378632492
this

>>378633465
How many ganger time combos do you have to have?
Does it happen often?

>>378637061
No

>>378636439
>Unlike SF, you can make up for having a technically bad matchup by having better matchup knowledge and general player skill.
But if you're up against someone as skilled as you, you're at a disadvantage. If you don't pick a top tier you're an idiot.
I'd rather have 4 top tier characters and everything else in shit tier, than 2 top tiers with everything else being "good".

>>378637061
I don't think many people ever training those. Your normal stuff should work just fine.

>>378637146
>pick a top tier
Shit is not good advice unless you're a top player where money is on the line instead of just normal people playing for fun.
No you are not a top player.

>>378637146

While picking the very best characters to maximize your chances of winning is a valid attitude, you will find most people care more about playing a character they enjoy.

>>378637061

You don't really need danger time specific combos. Just realize you're getting a free counter hit and a free RC on hit and go from there.

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I LOVE DRAGON INSTAAAAAAALL

>>378636439
>most of the top tier are actually very difficult to play
Oh really?
Raven is the easiest char in the game, and the only two things that require a bit of training mode are his scratch loops (that you'll basically never see in match) and his glide cancelling that is easy as fuck.
Sin is another character that is easy as fuck combo-wise, and he has the best neutral in the game. His food mangement is a joke, since he can do his stuff, get enough meter to YRC the eat and then continue doing his stuff. He also has basically no bad matchup, meaning his good against everyone, and he can play the exact same way as against everyone.
Johnny throws you after poking you with his moves without recovery, then gets gets level 3 and becomes +5 to +10 on everything he does. Some of his advanced shit is hard to pull, yes, but who the fuck cares about optimization when the RISC bar will be high enough to delete 70% of your life in 6 seconds?
Ky is the most basic character in the game, he is made for the beginners. All his combos are piss easy in GG standard.
So yeah, there are Chipp, Venom, Elphelt and Kum that are arguably harder top tiers (according to Teresa's tier list) that will require some work. But top tiers DEFINITELY aren't the hardest characters to play.

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>>378630216
huehuehue

>>378632492

Not just her feet, her tits, thighs, voice and expression too.

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>>378637669
>Elphelt
>Harder than Johnny

>>378637304
Nigga the fuck you talking about, what kind of game do you think you're playing
Are you gonna tell people not to play certain matchups lame even if doing so is advantageous just because it isn't "fun"? Stop letting sentimental bullshit hold you back from being the best you can be.
Artificially restraining yourself with limitations that only exist in your head is an insult to yourself, to your opponent for not taking them seriously, and to the game for insinuating that players shouldn't push themselves to their fullest.

>>378637669

In what universe is Kum top tier? Literally no one uses Kum thanks to his completely fucked inputs which should have been changed in Rev 2.

>>378637867
If it wasn't for the tits she would look and sound like a man, you faggot.

>>378638009
Three words anon:

CHA

CHA

CHA

>>378633465
what is the point of this fucking shitty mechanic

>>378638049

You must be partially deaf and blind then. She sounds nothing like a guy and doesn't come close to looking like one either.

>>378638242
I haven't heard her xrd voice but she really did in all the previous games

>>378632036
They are not officially married man, Sin is a bastard.

>>378638283

So you're actually shitposting about something you don't know about?

Amazing

>>378637669

If you play Johnny without doing the difficult stuff, he can't really be considered top tier anymore.
Raven is a very good character, but not quite in the same league as Johnny and Sin since he lacks their insane damage output and oppressive neutral.
You completely forgot about Zato.

The other characters you listed aren't in fact part of the best characters.

>>378638186
Artificial hype.

>>378637867
i'll stick to the feet thanks very much

>>378638354
>You completely forgot about Zato.
Zato isn't top tier, and never was in Revelator

>>378638345
Considering I've seen people complain that her new voice doesn't sound enough like a man, I still think baiken fans are total faggots

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>>378633078
NO YOU DON'T YOU IDORT

>>378638486

Post the material you'll be using

>>378638804
You have no business claiming to be straight if you wouldn't suck her dick, you fucking faggot.

>>378639886
her balls too, and her semen after she shoots it into her sake gourd.

>>378638496
Ogawa pls.

>>378633465
what the fuck

>>378638486
post material

>>378640239
The general consensus is to add Elphelt, Johnny, Sin and maybe Millia in the tops. And you know what those characters have in common?
No bad matchups, except maybe a slight disadvantage when facing another top.

And Zato had some bad matchups that weren't those tops, like Axl and I-No for instance. I do believe that Zato is high and really damn strong, don't get me wrong. But he still has some bad matchups. And tiers are made according to matchups.

>>378637146
Johnny and Eddy are classic examples of why you shouldn't pick top tier just because they're top.
They both take a ton of work before they start feeling strong, whereas you could have just played Ky, Sol, Slayer, Sin, etc and got decent in a couple days.
The amount of players I seen drop j.d-mistfiner cancel loops and Treasure Hunt of 6h and get scooped up is hilarious.

>>378641205
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. If a top tier is hard to play, you just practice harder.

>>378641526
You're argument is contradictory:
Tier dickriders aren't willing to work harder because they're picking a character that presumably will improve their chances -- they lack the work ethic to stick with a character that suits them in order to "get an edge."

All the best GG players don't bounce around characters for a reason, and tier dickriders never do well in any game. They do hilariously bad with high execution top-tiers too.

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>play 2 rounds with someone
>they are obviously better than me
>have fun anyways, taunting and doing stupid shit
>afterwards, the guy messages me how much he's better than me and that I'm not worth his time

Shit...Anyways, does anyone else like taunting/complimenting (I like complementing weaker players, to give them the meter)?

>>378642360
>playing with strangers
Your fault

>>378642426
Naw, like I said, I enjoyed the matchs. And the guy is legit good; even has a youtube channel where he experiments with his character. I just don't understand why he was so asshurt.

>All the best GG players don't bounce around characters for a reason
Speaking of which, how do you guys decide on a main? All the characters are so fun in this game.
Played Rev1 for a while to decide on a character to main during Rev2. Started with four, ended up with six.

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Im still afraid to upgrade this game ro revelator after i saw what happened on PC.
especially in Europ

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At first I was like

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>>378642892
>>378642968
>it keeps happening
RIP Elvenshadow

How do i grab reliably?
It seems to work for me only on Fridays when the sun is out but it's raining,but other people just fucking grab me from bursts or in the middle of a combo and shit.

>>378632906
The games are not similar but for what it's worth the Tekken community was the best I've experienced in gaming

You could ask the dumbest question in /ttt2G/ and they would write an informative 3 paragraph response with every possible angle explained

>>378643626
back/forward + HS

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who slayer here
best bunga

>>378643626
If you're having trouble with air throws be 100% certain you are holding only forward or backward when you hit HS. Diagonals do not work. Air throw range is pretty generous.

For ground throws make sure you are close enough, and make sure you are not running. You cannot throw during the little skidding animation, so for a run up throw you have to brake with FD for an instant before throwing.

>>378643626
>>378644124

Also note that some moves have unthrowable status, like Baiken's 6K, Leo's stance K, and any move that leaves the ground. Even if they are right on top of your throw attempt will turn into a fat counterhit for them.

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How to deal with Axl? This fucker just used his stance most of the fight I felt like a dumbass. I know I can punch him out of it but I'm not sure when or how.

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>>378642892
>>378642968
Japanese overlords gatekeeping #1 spot since forever.

>>378643626
For ground throws, you have to be really close and press 4/1/2/3/6HS. You can't throw people right away after they get out of a combo/blockstun/when they are waking-up. Since throws are like 1 frame, you can kind of mash it in blockstun. Also, you should always try to do your character's fastest button+throw as an option select: that way, if they are getting out of blockstun for example, you don't have to be precise about whether you can throw them or not. You will either throw them since they start-up on frame 1, or your other move will come out (since no normal/special/whatever is faster than the start-up of throws).

For air throws, you can have your opponent slightly above you, maybe slightly below you to air throw them. Their hitbox is definitely bigger than ground throws. However, you cannot use diagonal motions or the down direction to air throw (so 4HS/6HS works but 1/2/3HS doesn't).

Is Ky canonically stronger than Sol now?

>>378642360
Taunting makes some people salty, they think you're being cocky instead of goofing around

That guy still sounds like a fag though

>>378644848
Huh? No.

>>378632906

Anything BUT SFV, my man

>>378644643
But you can't throw with 1/2/3H

Who /impatiently waiting for 11 AM EST for the Steam release/ here

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>>378644892
I wish they made it so you could cancel Taunts into attacks like Respect.

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OK dudes this is a weird post but I love grabbing. I like King in Tekken for obvious reasons. I like Marth in Melee because of magnet hands grab range (pls no shitpost I just like Melee). Tekken is obviously better because in tekken I can actually "mix up" my grabs so that's awesome.

I'm looking for a new game to pick up where I can be grabby. I really don't like Street Fighter 5. I'm going to buy Tekken 7 but are there other games that have notorious GRABBERS? I've never gotten into Anime Fighting because it looks very hard and different from traditional fighting but if they have good grabbers I might try to learn it

>>378645607
KI's RAAM is pretty good but he's not a grappler per se

>>378645607
I can't think of a single anime fighter I've played where the dedicated grappler isn't bottom tier

The nature of them makes them tricky to work into this game, for the most part the game has a fast speed and long (compared to SF at least) combos, so since grapplers are about getting in and doing a ton of damage in one hit, they straddle a very fine line between being worthless and overpowered in balance

Now with that being said, even the worst characters in Xrd are completely viable up until you're entering Japanese tournaments and you will most likely never reach that level anyway, so you can make Potemkin work just fine online or with friends or even at locals if you go that far

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>>378645048
Whoops you're right

Also, anyone have the vid of exvaphon getting perfected via throws? I want to immortalize it via webm

>>378645859
+R pot wasn't low tier.

>>378645607
Potemkin is this game's heavy grappler, but he needs lots of effort to do decently. The main character, Sol also has a command grab and a very potent one to use as a mix-up tool for one. You'll find yourself using it quite often if you ever pick him up.

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>>378645910
I fucking love Jam. She isn't my main but she's absolutely joy to play.

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>>378645607
Well you got Tager in BB (and a little of Bullet), King of Dinosaurs in KoF. I can't remember the rest, but there's around 50 characters so go nuts.

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>>378645910
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVEdc8HzY7U

enjoy

>>378642360
Yes I like taunting. It's a good part of mind games.

I like to condition opponents, make them mad, and make them hesitate.
Taunting is a big part of that. You sound like you taunt just for fun, and that's how I started out taunting too, but then I realized that taunting and disrespect can be a useful tool to win sets.

For example, it can be a big risk but say that you have nearly perfected the enemy on game 1 of set 1 in tournament. He is in the corner with 1 HP and you have full or nearly full HP. At this time, I like to do stupid shit and allow my enemy a chance to comeback. I will either taunt or give my enemy an insignificant combo in some way that will take me down to half HP. When the enemy feels like he is just within reach of possibly coming back, I throw out a simple poke and kill him. Like I said, it's a big risk, but the more you risk in terms of disrespecting the enemy and letting him damage you, the more emotional and mental damage it will inflict when you do finally kill him.

The most disrespectful thing I've done was a situation similar to above, and when the enemy was about to die I full stopped my combo, set my stick on the floor, and opened my water bottle and drank a couple sips while he comboed me. Then I picked up my stick and killed him. After that first game we played he could not mentally recover and he played like utter shit the rest of the time, making mistakes that even noobs don't make.

Yes it's autistic but it's what I do.

>>378645607
GREAT
HEAVENLY
POTEMKIN
BUSTER

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>>378646386
>EvaXephon

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>>378646386
Never gets old.

IT'S OUT.

Rev 2 is live on Steam as of 8 minutes ago.

>>378645859
>The nature of them makes them tricky to work into this game, for the most part the game has a fast speed and long (compared to SF at least) combos, so since grapplers are about getting in and doing a ton of damage in one hit, they straddle a very fine line between being worthless and overpowered in balance
Why don't they design a character that can start a medium damage combo with a few different types of grabs? That would work

ITS OUT FUCKKKKKKKKK

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>>378646386
>

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They make buying this look incredibly complicated.

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>>378646386
>He commented on the video

Does johnny have his mulislash attacks from the older guilty gears? They always looked so cool.

Survey:

http://www.gotoquiz.com/which_fighting_game_style_suits_you_3
Do this quiz and post your main

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Dizzy is olev, please play her !

Question:

Playing SF allows a person to play traditional fighting games due to mechanical similarity.

Will playing GG allow me to play UNIEL, BB, KoF, and other games like that? Are they mechanically similar enough?

>>378647213
>Playing SF allows a person to play traditional fighting games due to mechanical similarity.

It'll help you transition between BB easily since it's mostly the same. Uniel as well, kinda but not KoF.

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>>378646386
Thank you anon.

>>378646506
I'd like to see some of this bullshit in tourneys and whatnot. I don't even think there is any sort of extreme egos in (JP)GG anymore. Or rivals (I keep thinking Kaqn v Buppa, but they were more recognized in BB).

>>378647213
1. Yes
2. Yes, but not every anime game is the same and KoF is completely different

>>378647213
It will certainly help since pretty much all airdashers share some mechanics that show up in very early guilty gears,

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>>378647198
>Which element do you prefer: Earth, Wind, Fire, Air
This is the hardest question. I've been gaming for 2 decades and still can't decide. I like them all.

>>378646959
does upgrading give you the DLC for Rev? I got revelator on PC after owning it on console to play it with my friends, I figured I should upgrade it since I have it on ps4 as well.

>>378647535
What's your zodiac?

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What?

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>>378646506
wow rude

>>378647651
Scorpio

>>378647780
Pick Water then

>>378647706
Rev2+Rev1 with DLC characters but not DLC colors/announcer voices.

>>378645859
Tager isn't bottom-tier, in CPE he was around high even.

>>378647825
Woah that's always been one of my top 2.

>>378644848
Sol didn't transform so it didn't count

>>378634189
>CH
Huh? What did they do to Chipp to make him S-tier? He has been in A/B for so long.

>Zato in D-tier with Pot
WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED

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>Robo-Ky, Sharon and the Jellyfish Pirate girls got Avatar heads
Nice

>>378648238
Gamma blade YRC buff.

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>Kinda want to get the game
>Be scared of fighting other people
It's just too much pressure

>>378647198
>Speedy
Valkenhayn in BB, Leo in GG, Ed in SFV, Steve in Tekken, Erron (Outlaw) in MKX.
Out of those, only Valk could be considered speedy. Maybe Steve too.

>>378648449
Do it. Get destroyed, learn from it and improve yourself.

>>378648395
Wasn't you always able to YRC Gamma Blade? What else did the buff do?

>>378648449
Stop caring.

>>378648449
getting good is fun anon don't you like dark souls?

>>378648449
Who cares? Unless you wanna go pro just have fun. I have an embarrassing amount of loses in tons of games and I still have fun.

>>378648449
Keep playing until you learn to not give a fuck, you're gonna be ass so just embrace it and have fun and watch yourself slowly get better

I'm still by no means good at fighting games, but when I first got into them with SFIV I couldn't even take a round off of a medium CPU opponent, so now when I wipe the floor with people worse than me online it just lets me see how far I've come, and how much further I still have to go when I get wiped myself

>>378648449
>play online for the first time in a day
>get butterflies in my gut everytime

Just play a few times with the first people you see. The scared feeling will go away and be replaced with whatever you feel when you win/lose. Stop being a coward

>>378648575
He could before, but the projectile actually comes out now.

>>378644508
Axl is a lesson in patience. At distance, bait one of moves for CH. DO NOT EVER JUMP IN NEUTRAL, Axl will fuck your asshole dry. Patience and good blocking is the key to this matchup. Unless you play Jack-O, then just give up

I bought it. I think I mainly got it just because of those tutorials but I hope I can enjoy it.

>>378646978
Bullet maybe? Haven't played BB since CPEX and she was still kinda bad.

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>>378648958
>unless you play Jack-O

ok I'll go fuck myself then

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>>378647198
>Balanced
>mains include Ky, Ken, v-13, and Ryu

I'm not sure what I expected.

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https://twitter.com/ex_wiper/status/860200065515892737

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>>378648958
But anon, why did they give a zoner a DP?

Yea I know. he's more of a mid-range character.

>>378632906
im gonna get both, i fucking love fighting games, just not injustice and mortal kombat.

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>>378649462
Shit, I know most character's 6Ps double as an anti-poking tool, but why does El's last this long?When will they really nerf this character?

>>378649352
I had to drop her because of this MU, a couple guys in locals play Axl and I got assfucked every time. With them nerfing level 1 and 2 minions, it made the MU even worse.

>>378649505
They gave him a DP to fuck with us. Bait it and punish him, it's satisfying as fuck.

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>>378649462
Why?

>>378637518
LET IT OOOOUUUUUUUT

>>378634189
RAVEN IS S
NICE

>>378632906
both and I'm not even good at either one, or any fighting games for that matter

Is Kum any good?

>>378649948
Raven is fucking S-tier cancer. No fun to fight at all

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I have only the base Xrd on my pc, they sure made it complicated to get to rev2, what the fuck does even the rev2 deluxe does?

For people that play on the pc in rev 1 times, how long did it take to find a casual game? I'm not very picky about amount of players since I used to play #Reload online during dry season.

>>378650080
I think she's a sleeper. Mid, maybe upper, tier. Still doesn't get a whole lot of use, so there's potential that new tech has yet to be discovered.

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>>378650187
>heavily nerfs one of Millia's core moves
>gives Raven a slap on the wrist

BIRDS FLYYYYYYYY

>>378650345
raven is best anything

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Best boy WHEN?
>Literally the most moral character in the franchise

TATAMI GAESHI

>>378630216
Ape Escape is 18 now

>>378647140
It is I accidentally bought the revelator deluxe because it's the same price as the rev2 bundle and I'm a fucking retard. Time to wait for this refund to go through ;_;

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>>378650707
>BEST BOY
That's not Gabriel.

Whatever happened to Gabriel-anon?
I haven't seen him in ages.

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So if I want all the dlc and characters from rev 1 and rev 2 I need to buy the $60 bundle on steam right?

>>378650763
>>378647140
What's the difference in content between the last two options?

>>378650821
He'll be playable soon, right?

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>>378651252
Sure.

>>378651252
Right after Bridget.

Which version do I get on steam?
GUILTY GEAR Xrd -REVELATOR- (+DLC Characters) + REV 2 All-in-One (does not include optional DLCs)

^ Does this one have all DLC chars unlocked?

>>378634189
>take it with a grain of salt
>Zato is in D tier'
Yeah nah, I'm taking it with a whole kilogram with salt. This is why you don't take a tier list as fact cause someone could release something as retarded as this.

>>378652523
Get the most expensive one dumbo

>>378652523
it has the 3 revelator dlc characters and baiken/answer, but it doesn't have the baiken/answer system voices or 16-23 colors i believe

Any Stance characters in Xrd? I only know about Zappa.

>>378652708
I'm poor so that is fine.

>>378652748
Leo has a stance.

>>378651198
The $60 bundle has everything, the $45 one has the full roster but not the extra colors/Baiken+Answer system voices.

>>378652954
shit leo is fucking booooooooring

>>378652987
Yeah I just bought that one and it's going to take me 2hours to download but the thing is I check the dlc page and it doesn't say I have them own and I can buy them?

>>378647198
>Zoner
>Venom

Well then.

>>378652748
Leo, Johnny, Faust, Raven, Baiken (kinda)

>>378650223
REV2 deluxe is the full game, including REV and its DLC

Tldr, if you need to update from SIGN, you buy REV2 deluxe.

just buy rev1 from g2a and rev2 deluxe upgrade from steam

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>>378652748
ELPHEEEEELT

>>378653649
There is no Rev2 Deluxe package on steam.

Rev2 is $19, the colors are $3, and the system voices are $6.

>>378653517
this list is hilariously wrong because slayer players in xrd are the biggest tier-whiners in the world. they could literally make him reload slayer with his AC tools at this point and they'd still complain about how weak he is compared to previous games and basically unplayably bad

>>378653820
Remove Elphelt.

>>378652535
It's gotta be fake, there's no way anyone seriously believes Zato is that low.

>>378653924
You are right, sorry.

THIS is the one you should buy if you arent interested in the optional dlc.

GUILTY GEAR Xrd -REVELATOR- (+DLC Characters) + REV 2 All-in-One (does not include optional DLCs)

>>378654064
As a Slayer main I agree. I bitch a lot about his current tier, though I'd be happy with what you said though.

>>378654091
No, she's cute, she stays

>>378653361
thanks for the list, I may try them out

I also got turtle second and zoner third on that quiz as well

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>mfw the only "point" people can raise against Danger Time is that other games don't have it

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>>378654890
If she's so cute, how come she can't find a guy who'd marry her?

>>378655282
I don't think I've ever seen someone raise that "point."
The "point" that people raise is that it's a dumb comeback mechanic that leads to undeserved upsets and false hype, allowing the lower skilled player to win.

>>378655282
it's a random mechanic that can punish you for making correct decisions earlier in a match if it happens later on

that being said after they cut the frequency in half it's whatever and barely matters

>>378655476
Just you wait, Sinphelt will happen

>>378655282
The randomness factor of it is silly. Yeah, it can be hype, but it's like tripping in Brawl, totally unnecessary.

danger time is not even an issue, people only complain about it because the game otherwise has literally no flaws outside of scrub shit like "character X is too good"

if you lost to danger time it's because you got hit in the first place and took a bit more damage because of mortal counter. it happens rarely on the uncommon situation that attacks clash and effects both players equally

it's still a better mechanic than FRC and FB because of how equal and uncommon it is

>>378652748
Johnny. Not in the traditional sense... But MF stance is funnest and most interactive stance I've ever played in a fighting game.

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So should I just go to practice mode and learn a 4-5 hit combo till I remember it and then go online? Or will I get shit on by everyone?

>>378656149
certain characters are way better at exploiting certain danger time situations than others, if a clash happens in certain situations a hit will be guaranteed even now that danger time gives you meter

it's too small a thing to plan around so you always have tension to air FD long enough in the event of a clash that causes danger time or meter to yrc something you cancel into post clash if your char has no good options to mash, it's just a random thing that occasionally fucks people for no real reason

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>>378653517
Not into armpits. More into butts. Rest is spot on though.

>>378656643
Yes. You will still get shit on anyway.

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>>378656149
>danger time is not even an issue
yea
>if you lost to danger time it's because you got hit in the first place
yee
>it's still a better mechanic than FRC and FB
...n-no...

>>378656149
Exactly, what does danger time do?

>>378656983
How many times do I have to tell you motherfuckers DO NOT LEWD MAY? I will shank your fucking ass if I ever see that again.

>>378655601
Don't do this to yourself, Anon. That ship has sailed.

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>>378657314
Does it still count as incest if she is adopted. They might be blood related because she and Ram are clones of his grandmother.

>>378657107
If you land an attack that isn't a projectile, it will automatically CH and apply a RC effect.
Basically any starter can go into an optimal follow-up like 5h, 6h, or a special.

>>378657535
When will threy bring back Valentine?

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>>378657535
I can take Sol, Ky, Axl and Zappa having a relationship, but if Sin gets it on with one of the Valentines, it's going to become too anime for me.

>>378657009
I can't tell if you're agreeing with me on FB or not, but they were way too good for 25% meter and extremely unbalanced as a mechanic idea because while some characters got amazing FB options others got shit ones

>>378657860
never because they gave all her moves to jack-o

>>378657860
I hope someday. Pachi said if she was added her playstyle might be focused on being in the air with her balloon.

>>378630216
>Love fighting games growing up
>Adore Guilty Gear for its crazy style and complexity
>Had no one to play with growing up so suck ass at fighting games

Should I even bother picking it up? I haven't played a fighting game consistently since the BlazBlue released.

>>378657878
We're already as deep into animeland as you can go, how is that where you draw the line?

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>>378657878
You have strange criteria for something being too anime.

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>>378658275
ok

>>378658176
Go for it

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>Afterstory

I wasn't expecting anything but that was pretty fun after getting shit on non-stop online

>>378658476
That ain't right

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>>378658275
Alright.

>Pick Sin
>Oh shit, dude, he's fun
>I picked the unga bunga character and I should feel bad

This happens every fucking time in every fucking fighting game I pick up.

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>>378658275
>>378658476
best boxart

>>378658892
why would you listen to scrub opinions

>>378658892
Why should you give a shit? Enjoy your character and keep playing him even if he gets nerfed.

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>>378658625
Let's try something different then.

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>>378659136
That's moe

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>>378658196
>>378658328
It's simple. I just don't want Ram to end up with Sin. He could take Elphelt though. Maybe have Elphelt get a harem of husbands to make it interesting.

>>378658019
But FB's were fun to have. Instead of eliminating it completely, maybe have everyone have only 1 instead? Besides, they buffed Overdrives now, giving them knockdown/effect/damage scaling with Burst.

>>378647198
Turtler. Very fitting and i take pride in it for most games. Unless the meta is pure turtling then its boring. I enjoy breaking down peoples rushdown when its actually viable because its a challenge.

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>throw houses
>buff
>poke to death
>mash HS
>occasional D

what else do I do?

>>378630216
she's a counter character
wait to get hit
bait with tatamis
she's fun as hell
and confuses 99% of people online

>>378659376
2H, jD sometimes, 3H rarely and if you have meter to make it safe

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>>378653517
Faust main here. Its kinda true but the "Memorized chances" shit is bs. Besides meteors and jack pot items and maybe black hole/trampoline its all around the same percent chance.

>Tfw getting 6 food items in a row against rushdown or avoids them and pressures you until they disappear.

Fuck its gay. Also Ky sub and "Ky is honest" is a meme that extends to the neutral and nothing but the neutral. People only think Ky is honest until we start doing high low split cieling setups with super low air dashes that almost rival shimmies in making people tech to early and get CH by j.S after a split ceil air dash last few feet.

>>378659325
> Instead of eliminating it completely, maybe have everyone have only 1 instead?
Because that makes what I complained about even worse, because instead of characters having one good FB and a bunch of shit ones they might just have a shit one while someone else might have a good one. This also makes the main appeal of the system (potential variety in tactics) reduced heavily.

FB are fundamentally broken and resulted in too much kusoge-ass shit like your venom webms, slayer doing 100% from anywhere on the screen if he counterhits with super and has 75% and osol being able to DP for free because he can just FRC afterwards and be completely unpunishable in almost every matchup. It's simply way too strong and multi use of a mechanic that it works on hit block and even whiff for projectiles. Xrd buffed supers but even if that stuff was backported into +R you still wouldn't see people using supers that much because you can do similar damage for less meter by just sticking one or even two FB in there.

YRC has more use as a neutral tool while reducing the braindead big combo/free blockstring shit that FRC eventually became by AC/+R. If you want mechanics where every hit converts into a combo video and pressure lasts forever play HnK or something.

>>378659592
>3H rarely

wow I do that like 80% of the time

though I am playing in beginner lobbies, so I won't rely on that anymore thanks

About the story mode. For now I have only base Xrd, is the story mode from Xrd present Rev 1-2 or do I have to get through it on Xrd?

>>378657535
who's the cutie on the left?

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>>378659376
Use your command grabs
Use explosions
Use bomb super to chip/gain time for minions/extend pressure

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>>378634203
>Baiken will never look at your dick like this.
Suffering

>>378660035
Valentine

>>378660002
Yeah, stop that shit. Once you run into someone who knows what they're doing, you'll get punished hard for it.

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>>378660035
Valentine from GG2 Overture

>>378660141
Only fought one Jack-O and he was dog shit so question for the future. Do her little shits tank a hit like Little Eddie who even behind Zato will register a single hit and let Zato hit you just fine or will say a 2P from Sol if both Jack-O and her friend in the same place touch both?

>>378660141
I can't see a a fucking thing she's doing

but noted, thanks, never actually used self-destruct now that I think about it

"Baiken" has an equal Gematria Value to "Fap"

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They did the expansion as DLC & a patch instead of a new standalone! Hooray!

>>378648449
>Want to get the game
>Afraid there'll be another xrd sign revelator mk 3 ultra edition by the time Christmas rolls around

Why in the fuck do fighting games have to do this shit?

>>378660307
I'm pretty sure Jack-O would get hit as well.

>>378657009
Puritania combo video.

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>>378661185
I miss this face when I booted up the demo

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>>378661059
What?

I've fought a shitload of Baikens but only one or two Answers, why is this?

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>>378661185
>Still have to buy DLC characters
This shit always makes me nervous. I have to do a ton of research because I hate buying characters I might not like or play.

>>378661401
One is a waifu
The other one is some gay ass ninja

>>378661496
I just buy them anyway because I'm too fucking autistic to be able to handle the ? marks on the select screen.

>>378661401
Answer has weird inputs and hes not a waifu. Once you get used to the inputs though Answer is very fucking straight forward at the moment. Almost to the extent Leo is. He doesn't want to play neutral and just wants to get in and stay in all day. Hes not complex gameplan wise but he does have some neat approaches. But my first statement is probably why hes rarer.

>>378657860
She's now called Happy Chaos.

>>378661401
Baikening is a returning character. Answer is new. Use your brain.

>>378661196
Eh, it is done as DLC now and isn't full price.
REV 2 is finally the latest version.
Actual dev > arcade > console/pc cycles for GG are well over a year per installment.

Basically there won't be another GG installment until May 2018 ;_; so no point in waiting for an "ultra edition". Arcsys doesn't pull that SF shit.

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>>378659884
You make it sound like AC was unplayable. The fact that FRC and FBs were so good was because of the options it gave characters. It gave the game an edge, although I of course wouldn't want them as they were into Rev2. In fact, I am pretty positive on the change from FRC>YRC. It's just that, as far as offense goes in this game compared to AC, you have to think a little more, so maybe having 1 extra use for meter like FB would be beneficial.

I might be saying this because of the little changes Rev2 had from Rev1 and Xrd.

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Coming from Blazblue here, who plays like these 5girls?

>>378661496
Ok but when you make a single fighting game friend that comes over to your house to hold hands and you don't have their character then what?

Any reasonably accurate Rev 2 tiers yet? Or at least a list of characters that are worth bothering with if you don't just wanna get shit on?

>>378642360

Call that guy a fag and tell him to go play with his friends

The joke is that if he's playing pubbies and acting like that he likely doesn't have anyone to play with

>>378661713
Assuming you mean playing retardedly then Slayer.

>>378661713
One of those isn't even playable though.

>>378661832
Fuck off tier fag

>>378661920
When did wanting to play a good character become such a taboo

>>378661832
At the skill level you play at, I guarantee a tier list means absolutely nothing. Xrd's tier list is probably one of the most balanced ones across current fighting games and the skill ceiling for the base mechanics is high enough that tiers don't apply to normies, sry.

Just play a character that you aren't constantly failing at inputs with.

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>fightan games have the hottest girls
>don't play fightan games because I suck at them and I don't like multiplayer

>>378662024
Play the fucking game and learn who the good characters are.

>>378650187

One of my friends mains him, the trick is to keep him in neutral and force him in. Do NOT go aggressive on raven because you'll take his spiked horn up your ass. It's bullshit in a game like GG the character's strengths lie in playing like a little bitch and confirming your knockdowns with a fullscreen projectile, but do what you gotta do to knock him the fuck down and never let him get back up

>>378662105
>Xrd's tier list is probably one of the most balanced ones across current fighting games
There is no such thing as balance. Also Rev 2 is more imbalanced than Revelator.
>skill ceiling for the base mechanics is high enough that tiers don't apply to normies, sry.
That just means the easy top tiers shit on everything else even harder.

Now stop peddling your bullshit.

>>378661713
I used to main Noel in CS. Bullet is my girl in CF, and Makoto as an alternate.

>>378661730
My friends don't play fighters. Actually, one does but he's just a casual who likes Tekken.

>>378661623
>You make it sound like AC was unplayable
It was pretty terrible and only played because it's contemporaries were even worse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1ksxdigI8M

how stupidly good potemkin and slayer were in this game are directly why they were nerfed for xrd, they didn't want to risk them being even better because of how much YRC aids their playstyle

>>378662549
I don't agree and that is OK.
Src: I've played GG for a decade.

>>378662549
>Rev 2 is more imbalanced than Revelator
How so?

>>378663352
It's a fact that some characters will always be better than others no matter what skill level you're at. We are not discussing a matter of opinion.

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>>378663108
Haha I remember that, although that example doesn't show why we can't have Force Breaks in GG.

The prime examples would be FB disc and FB drill.

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>>378663352
I agree and that is OK too.
Src: I've fapped to Bridget for over a decade.

>>378663570
>no matter what skill level you're at
I'd love to see you playing against FAB with any top tier you want.

>>378631843
People are actually playing the fucking game, my man.

>>378663751
That's not what I'm talking about, I mean that the fact that some characters are better than others is true regardless of your skill level. Of course a better player will beat a worse one, but between two players of equal skill, characters decide the winner.

>>378662549
>Rev 2 is more imbalanced than Revelator.
Please remember how stupid pre-nerf Sin and Johnny were.

>>378663675
don't forget about BBU that lets slayer convert any random hit into half life or more

+R had a couple really dumb ones too like zato being able to just refill eddie meter whenever he wants

>>378663928
Sin's nerfs are a joke. And the most funny part how they actually buffed his eating special instead of nerfing it and fixing the character.

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So what does Suzuran do for Baiken is it a counter if they hit you or just a short dash?

>>378663923
>perfect balance between characters doesn't exist, one will always be better
ok

>but players can be "of equal skill"
??

>>378663923
I guess if your aim isn't to be a God then yeah. Then again, who cares about a tier list made for mortals. That is like comparing the speed of Toyota to a Honda when you are sharing the road with a Veyron. Depending on your location, you will bump into EVO champions in netplay and if you aren't a chucklefuck then you should probably be trying to actually get good wherein you realize a normie tier list is absolutely a waste of time.

>>378664798
it blocks attacks from about the waist up and you can cancel it into followups

>>378663923
Top tier characters aren't necessarily stronger at every level. Leo is a good example: he is considered to be a weaker character, but at low and mid levels people don't know how to deal with his bullshit and he gets away with lot.
Pot also is a good character at lower levels even though he is bottom 3 at top level.
Someone like Zato will struggle against worse characters if you're not a really good player

>>378664798
It just allows you to block while running moving forward. You can also do her azami followups anytime during it.

>haven't played in months
>execution has gone to total shit
I'm having problems even doing Potemkin Buster regularly. Why did I let it get this bad?

The tutorial stuff is awesome in this.

>>378664824
>>378665079
Even if I'm never going to be a god tier player, I'd want to have the best shot I can against the people I do play against. So even if I'd never be able to master Johnny and his bullshit, why wouldn't I play someone like Sin who can dominate at every level?

I thought Rev 2 was gonna be a free up date if you have Revelator. Did I get rused?

So what's the difference between the regular super and burst super?

>>378665432
The big deal was that this time it's a $20 update instead of making you buy it at full price again like arksys usually did before

Nobody ever once said it would be free

>>378640714
he also completely freewin against much of the cast. Zangief was top 5 in vanilla sf4 despite being 3:7 against sagat.

>>378665415
Maybe you wouldn't enjoy Sin's playstyle as much as some other characters?
I think it's important that your character really clicks with you if you want to have motivation to get better.
Maybe you'd get initially better results with Sin win-loss-wise, but would it matter if you had less fun than with some other character?

>>378665543
Burst supers do more damage, are fully invincible on startup and have a minimum damage scaling of 20%.

>>378665558
Eh, my fault for not doing research and getting rused by another anon.