Final Fantasy XIV

>>378623419
You need to go back.

remove /vg/

Where's the news?

>>378623491
There were leaks in the prev thread apparently

>>378623851
Yeah but some skills are cost specific to the job gauge right? There wasn't much said for PLD but for WAR

>>378623583
Was that five hours ago?

>>378623491
2 more years of grindan and erp'n.

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>>378620292
Dark Release?
That wasn't Clees or whoever that fgt is.

It was me.

The old thread 404'd, this will be my last post though. Embargo will be down in 4h30m

>>378623636
I didn't want to say anymore but I guess this is just clarification so I will clarify.

>Do both Delirium and Syphon give MP now?
Yes.
>Is bloodwep still only usable with Grit off?
Unfortunately, yes. However, it also adds 3 Blood for each aa/ws.

>>378623656
Sorry, no.

>>378623706
No, it doesn't.

>>378623685
Shelltron, a skill at level 62 that I briefly mentioned here >>378623539

>>378623884
Yes and no. There is a separate action for Enkindle Bahamut.

>>378623114
that's secret of mana not final fantasy reeeeee

>it's been 5 years since 5 hours til embargo lifted

What went wrong?

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>>378624406
>Embargo will be down in 4h30m

>>378624408
Yes, but his dancing is faggoty enough to earn him a place of honour among the mancat population.

>>378624497
What embargo?

>>378624283
>Clees
I hate that faggot.

>>378624406
Could you tell me if WHM gets any sort of raid buff or utility?
Anything besides heals, shield and dps spell like Stone 4?

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>>378624408
>a fucking fft raid
seiken raid when

>>378624558
At least you know that out of the 5 tool tips i've seen posted here:
Delirium/Ninja Attack/Diurnal Stance/Fracture/Dark Release

3 of them are fake. (Fracture one is too obvious)

>>378624406

Please give us a monk leak, just one.

>>378624568
Technically speaking, once you get confessions on everyone you have a really powerful instant MP-free AoE heal, which is semi-spammable at 15s. That leaves you free to DPS a lot more often.

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>>378624406
>a skill at level 62 that I briefly mentioned here >>378623539 (Cross-thread)

Any reason it's not on Yoshi's hotbar during liveletter?

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>>378624608
>tfw no double Mecha Rider fight
>tfw no Dread Slime fight
>tfw no Thanalos fight
>tfw no Mana Beast fight

>>378624672
cuckshed, level 70

>>378624798

No room left with nin, whm, and mch in it.

>>378624854
Is there any room left for DRG?
t.DRG

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>finally get around to levelling up Rogue after getting it to 10 and dropping it months ago
>it's fun
Uh oh.

>>378624651
actually they're real

>>378624883
DRG is the doormat

>>378624568
Someone else mentioned a WHM ability in the last thread that people doubted (it wasn't me though) and that description of it is 100% true. As for raid buff/utility... I'm afraid not. A lot of their actions revolve around shortening (re)cast times for themselves. WHM has very little abilities overall after they got their shit ripped out. No scrolling at all on Actions, Traits or Job tabs.

>>378624672
I'm really sorry... I don't know anything about Monk... and it's my main. I'm just as depressed as you.

>>378624757
You're right it's not there. I'm not sure why it's not there, but Yoshida did mention that not all actions would appear on the hotbar during the stream.

if anyone on aether is willing to help, two DPS in an in prog dusk vigil stuck alone in the cold
tank left immediately upon entering, just need a tank to fill in for us

if you see a ninja and summoner you got the right group

>>378624981
It's okay anon, we'll find out soon.

>>378624908
Hitler could fucking well help paddling. What a fucking cunt.

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>>378624981
THE SHED IS CALLING TONIGHT
SAY MY NAME
SAY MY NAME
WHI-TE MAGE

>bi-weekly cash shop items
Is this a thing now?

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2 weeks until we can all experience leveling dungeons with undergeared people, again!
Can't wait for the vault 2.0!

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>believing anything you see posted on /v/

>>378625121
Welcome to MMOs in 2017.

<This space is reserved for an upcoming post>

>>378625154
>t. deluded whm main

>>378625154
Everyone will believe me when I post that you're a faggot because it's true

>>378625130
Sohm al was worse. Tanks thinking they were invincible pulling everything up to the first boss then dying to the 4 stacks of poison they ran though.

>>378624981
So is that CD PLD places on another party member the only other skill that was missing from the live letter?

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>>378625220
How did you know

>>378625154
I would never lie, /v/ has served me well for many years. I'm not about to post screenshots and stuff though.

The only reason I have spoken about some things is because the embargo is lifting so soon and I'm still trying to not say too much to honor the embargo.

>>378625249
Yes, that's the only one missing here. Most jobs as you would expect only get a few new abilities. PLD got as many new abilities as they did in HW if you include the one they retroactively get (their AoE).

>>378624406
any leaks regarding how the new DRG is going to play?

>>378625071
Is this guy a genius?

>>378625434
After all, people at Pax East complained Ast healed as much as Whm, not that Whm had zero utility compared to Ast.
And Yoshi stated it was only "for now".
Based game director gave our little Whmcucks what they wanted.

>>378625432
I don't want to say anything more new for now but I will answer this by saying not much has changed. Dragons watch you and you get all red and you get new abilities. You also have a combo off of Doom Spike.

>>378625421
what information are we even geting, is there going to be specific class skill info?

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>>378625434

>>378625421
Ah ok, was hoping because there was a lower level skill that there would be another one for post 60 as well.

>>378625550
Is it true that ground-targeted AoEs like Shadow Flare and Flaming Arrow are gone?

>>378625682
You can clearly see Asylum on the LL's hotbars

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>mfw getting ready for the incoming shillblood future where whmkeks and schcucks will both bend the knee to the one true lord and savior of healing, ast

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Pretend that it's before the launch of Heavensward, what skills/actions would you not have believed existed?

What stops people from going double ast since it's so amazing

>>378625756
there is a 99% chance that balance is going to get nerfed which will make ast complete shit.

>>378625864
SCH does more DPS

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>>378625756
>when the astbull tells you to shut up and spam physick because he needs to get his 100 percentile parse and if you do poorly he will replace you with the whmcuck from the shed
THIS WASN'T SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN YOSHI, I HAD TO BE THE STAR FOR ANOTHER EXPANSION

>>378625864
fflogs invalidation

>>378625586
Depends on who is giving you information. I'm not sure who will be giving what information. There will be interviews with YoshiP, videos of some new areas, and gameplay. You'll see stuff about the jobs, yes. I imagine that you'll see all the actions including tooltips.

>>378625665
Yeah, I double checked and those are all the abilities. I mean, there might have been old actions not there, but there only so many new ones.

>>378625682
>>378625747
Ground targeted actions still exist in the game. Actually, Shadow Flare doesn't have a cast time anymore.

>>378625421
I got another source that said WHM skills are 100% accurate, so I can believe you.
I heard that AST can now do 20% AoE Balance, can you say more about that?

>>378625864
Limit Break gain

>>378625864
limit break builds slower if you double up on jobs.

>>378625864
LB penalty for double job.
Same reason you didn't bring 2 machnists or 2 warriors

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Either this is one of your fuckers, or Reddit. In any case who the fuck can talk like this every fucking day.

>>378625929
>>378625947
Today I learned

>>378625927
I don't know anything about AST except for actions relating to their new Lord and Lady of Crowns cards unfortunately.

>>378625845
Balance cards, at least the current version of Balance. What the fuck were they thinking?

>>378625864
>What stops people from going double ast since it's so amazing
LB penalty
cards overwrite each other
Some SCH abilities cannot be replaced by AST

now that the dust has lifted what did i think about the embargo settlement? was it kino?

>>378625926
>no cast time
how bad is the recast time?

>>378626070
60 seconds

>>378626005
Honestly there would be nothing wrong with AST only having Bole, Spear, Ewer and Spire. Let them be more of a support healer by having them focus on MP/TP refreshes.

>>378626070
>Spells
>Recast time
Prepare for SMN and SCH spamming shadow flare everywhere like NINs do with death blossom.

>>378626132
so Shadow Flare turned into Flaming Arrow.

is the 50-60 experience bonus going to be upped to 100% in stormblood?

>>378626132
>Take Flaming Arrow away from BRD
>Give it to SMN
But why though

>>378625989
Dude I was running A11 with that guy awhile back.

>>378625989
I'm not seeing the problem

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Anyone got any guides/tips for gitting at
Lord of Verminion?

>>378626253
How bad was it?

>>378626275
wintrade with a friend

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why do people say ast is so great when it keeps drawing useless cards 90% of the time its diurnal heals are weak and have shorter range and it can dps less due to animation locks from drawing and redrawing cards constantly?

>>378626175
Yeah, I guess so, only weaker.

>>378626201
No idea. I guess casting Shadow Flare was a burden for whoever decided to change it. Speaking of which...

>>378625682
Flaming Arrow is actually gone I looked for it just now. Shadow Flare still in and functions similarly to Flaming Arrow. Still a ground target move though.

>>378626419
Ok last question for me
who's best tank now

I am a Bard who started playing in April, who has been 60 for about a month and doesn't really know that much about the game.

What changes can I expect for Bard in Stormblood?

>>378626372
BALANCE
A
L
A
N
C
E

>>378626372
>chance of dps increase > no chance at all
also, healing, especially in raids, is optimization of both healer, so:
>both healer dpsing and healing > one healer solohealing and 1 healer dpsing

>>378626175
Long as it still slows stuff down without a diminishing return, I play with a Summoner and I like having it for group pulls.

any new ast leaks? What do the new cards do and that flashy aoe?

>>378626458
you put machinist into the shed, congrats

>>378626372
I remember in early HW when you could use a bot to guarantee what cards you wanted. Good times.

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>>378626419
It is nice to no longer burn swiftcast on shadow flare

Maybe now I'll actually care to raise people.

>>378626328
not exactly the advice i was after

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>>378626479
are you implying that the solo healer never does any dps?

>>378626595
that would they would pick you for endgame, benchwarmer

>>378626453
I don't think I can answer that question. I guess it depends on what you're looking for. The tanks seem to be a little more balanced although WAR still is king of DPS. PLD has a move that sort of allows them to OT more and DRK has an ability which is better while MT so really I think this is a question that's better left to the community once they play early access.

Oh, but I'll say one thing about Warrior. Berserk doesn't give Pacification anymore as I'm sure most of you know already. They have a new skill that removes detrimental status ailments including when you're inhabilitated and it's named after a Taylor Swift song.

>>378626681
Bad blood?

>>378626681
>Taylor Swift

Bad blood?

>>378626753
ha, 2slow

>>378626753
>>378626741
No, a different one, has more to do with getting rid of something.

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>WHM one expansion later is still in the cuckshed
IT'S NOT FAIR

>>378626681
Do you play Warrior? I'm kind of curious if they can fully utilize Berserk or if they're going to shift into a more Wildfire > Mildfire kind of rotation.

Which is purely an academic question because I don't play warrior.

>>378626741

More like Shake It Off

>>378626798
its not shake it off is it

>>378626681
>DRK has an ability which is better while MT
Isn't the problem that DRKs aren't as good at OT
What's even the purpose of making them even more of a designated main tank

>>378626798
https://youtu.be/Z2xooz6844k

>>378626681
Which job got changed the most?

>>378626642
you seem awfully new to the game, please don't talk about things you never experienced, creator baby, and watch some clear videos of raid tier from first coil onwards

>>378626632
literally no one plays it, so that's kind of your only option. You're not gonna find many LoV "vets" here, or anywhere for that matter.

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>>378626795

>>378626458
You dont have to be a wannabe mage anymore because they're getting rid of MCH and BRD cast times

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>>378626932

>>378626458
Nobody knows because it's being completely revamped. All we truly know is that Wanderer's Minuet no longer gives you cast times and songs have another purpose, maybe on top of what they currently do.

>>378626837
>>378626861
>>378626895 (wtf is this clip)


>>378626836
I used to main WAR. I'm not sure I can really comment on the new playstyle. I'd go watch Xeno's video on WAR and his speculation on how it might play.

>>378626873
I don't like DRK because I suck at managing MP so honestly I don't know really.

>>378626906
BRD definitely, then MCH. A lot of BRDs abilities are completely different now.
>>378627058
>>378626458

>>378626909
what are you even talking about you shit eating faggot are you retarded? you say solo heal strat doesnt involve dps on solo healer and i ask you to clarify to confirm how big of a retard you are.

solo healer always has to contribute to dps you esoteric warrior babby.

>>378626004
Care to explain what these cards do?

Potd floors 1-10 or 51-60 for leveling?

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God damn Millennials with your Avocado Toast and Taylor Swifts

This is the superior Shake it off

https://youtu.be/Byj2gM60vIE

Don't know who the skinny bitch is on the album cover, though

>>378627119
51-60, not even close

>>378626910
I guess its up to me then... to become... the lord............ of........... verminion..........

>>378627108
One heals and the other one does damage. You spend a card to draw one of them, but it's slotted separately from your normal cards so if you hold it you can draw again and spend it (like you saw in the job action trailer).

>>378627107
>has to contribute
again, go watch those videos, and tell me how often the whm goes in cleric stance to dps, despite having the time to do so
use your brain and guess the reason

>>378627102
Bleh, a 40 minute video. I think I'll just wait until tooltips are released and theorycraft myself.

Knowing the combo paths, priorities, and inner beast generation should be enough to get a good idea on potency per second.

>>378627236
Thank you good sir!

>>378627283
Yeah, it's long sorry. I haven't done any theorycrafting myself so I can't help.

>>378627289
No problem. I should really stop posting now.

3h30m to go, Anon signing out.

>>378626550
>>378627004
>>378627058
>>378627102

Thanks. I'll make sure to keep an eye out for new information as Stormblood gets closer.

I must admit I feel less like a Bard and more like a plane Archer in the Bard's current state, not sure if that's just my newness not understanding but aside from Wanderers Minuet, and Wardens Paeon I don't get much out of my other songs.

Although having Foe's Requiem on when a Black Mage is in my party is helpful.

>>378627437
Godspeed bro, thanks for the nice time.

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It's fucking insane how much work they clearly put into making this, yet everyone hates it. Everything LOOKS so crisp and nice, its just that everyone thinks the actual gameplay is nice. I wonder if whoever lead the team in charge of making LoV got in shit.

>>378627502
The sad part is that it was just an April Fools joke but people were like "we want it, we want it!" and in the end, they didn't actually want it.

>>378625916
not anymore nigga

>>378627467
Yeah your songs don't really get used much outside of raid/trial content, and even then a lot of the time healers can manage their own resources. It and MCH aren't real like... full supports. They're DPS with a tiny dollop of emergency resource control.

>>378627502
no one plays TTT either because of the limitation of what cards can be used, and that NPC don't follow those rules.

Do you think this game will ever get rid of the sliding you do during combat animations? Drives me crazy now that I'm trying a melee job.

>>378627502
I think LoV is neat but it's too much of a hassle to set up a decent minion team and get good.
I think they should've made it simpler.

>>378627624
Nah, this isn't 1.0 anymore. enjoy your sped up actions to fit into the 2.5GCD

>>378627102
anymore smn info? Did they get more utility in SB?

>>378627620
I think at some point they changed the TT NPCs so they no longer cheated, but it was too little too late.

>>378627825
All the did was get rid of the random rule for NPCs. They can still use whatever cards they want.

>>378627875
Damn they got rid of random. I might have to actually beat all of them now. Being punished for having a lot of cards is bullshit.

>>378627626
I agree. It's too complex for its own good. People aren't playing XIV to play an RTS, so it needs to be simple and easy to understand.

>>378627620
people do play TT though, you always see people in the battlehall and in the card square

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Can't wait for that 60-70 gathering though. Maybe 90% will actually hit.

>>378628139
they only do so to fill their logs
you'll never see someone playing TT because they want to play TT

>>378627119
51-100 on repeat you get potsherds and aetherpool levels out of it

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>>378628196
i play tt because i like collecting cards

Do people still cheat in the Triple Triad Tournaments?

game is too hard to get into

not user friendly

>>378628286
you bet they do. theres at least one in every server i've been in who wintrades with like 7 alt accounts (as in they pay subs for these separate accounts)

>Mr.happy suddenly "ill" so can't stream today
>instead is spending all day making all the videos of XIV once embargo lifts.

Fucking jew.

>>378627825
Nope, they straight up still fucking cheat, full 4-5 star decks against you is rampant

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>>378628268
>tfw you get the Gaius card from a cape westwind trial

>>378628375
Yeah man I wonder why he won't be streaming when he's got to make a seperate video for every job on the changes

>>378628387
I got it from just running msq roulette Praetorium.

>>378628375
>implying you wouldn't do the same

Also you can watch larryzaur in the meantime cause he's just that good

>>378628387
>>378628469
>I run msq roulette every day because its always Prae
>still no fucking Gaius card
what did I do to deserve this

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>>378628293
Yet people complain about how much it holds your hand.

I think the biggest mistake this game made was having new players start in huge cities that are like mazes. There's a reason why RPGs start players in small towns at the beginning of the game.

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>using the same glamour for over two years
>never feel compelled to spend money in the cash shop

>>378628459
>>378628470
why doesn't he just admit what he's doing instead of making up some bs

>sorry guys, no time to stream tonight! ive got a bunch of stuff to get ready for you all tomorrow!

its as simple as that

>>378628469
>>378628505

>run dun scaith
>3 Diabolos Hollow cards drop every goddamn time
>never EVER get one

What the fuck

>>378628546
kappa

>>378628535
You know what they say

If it aint broke

>>378628293
Once you spend those 5h to get the hang of its systems you realise how braindead it is.

>>378628535
I don't even use glamours, well putting glamour onto my gear, I just carry around the outfit in my armory and have a separate gear chance for it.

>tfw shitty healer got the bulldoggo minion

IT'S NOT FAIR

>>378628293
That's how I felt about BDO desu
Also the amount of pop in Jesus christ. makes me want to puke

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Glamour log when, Yoshi?

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>DPSing is easier than ever with the Cleric Stance changes

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>>378628859
>mfw i won't dps even with the CS changes
get FUCKEd

since it looks like I'm AST 4 Life, what stance is best for 4 man content?

So, leaker, no bullshit give it to me straight. Is WHM dead for another fucking expansion?

>>378628912
>hindering party progression

Enjoy your ban.

>>378628859
It's not even worth DPS'ing now they nerfed the damage.

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>>378628859
>tfw i had to ask a whm to help dps the fire orbs in Vault the other day due to the dps not being able to take them all out in time

>>378628756
Need to run HQ mode to reduce pop in but gl with that if you do raid bosses or any other activity with people

>>378628938
>dead for another fucking expansion
Fuck off, it was bad for literally one raid tier.

jesus fucking christ can that fucking expansion to that gook shit game of yours come out and be done so you fucking faggots can stop spamming the board with this bullshit all day every day. you have a fucking general dedicated to this game on the board FOR GENERALS OF GAMES yet you keep wasting space on /v/ with it.

fucking die all of you.

>>378628934
Wouldnt the spell speed buff from diurnal equate to more dps? If the tank aint to squishy go with that imo.

>Cleric Stance removed
>Healers DMG scales with MND
>Healers can once again DPS in PvP

Get ready for being fucked~

>>378625845
dream within a dream

they wouldnt give a 300 potency ogcd that is effectively worse than 300 since its 3 100 potency hits, right?

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>>378628965
waah muh deeps even though I'm not a dps

>>378628934
Diurnal does more damage. Start in Noct to shield the tank for their big pull then switch.

>>378628989
And now it's dead for an entire expansion.

So is it still dead?

>>378629001
theres 7 persona 5 and far cry 5 threads at any given time sperg

>>378629015
>Implying healers will get a damaging spell in pvp.

I just want to know about crafting/gathering...

>>378629015
Have they shown that they're even getting damaging spells in pvp? I really haven't kept up with that

>>378629109
Report and ignore.

>>378629115>>378629117


Oh shit I forgot that there is only 2 combo's 9 abilities.

I'm actually really depressed about what I'm hearing about WHM.

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>>378628268
>just hit the 90 card achievement
i don't care if i'm small time i enjoy collecting

Embargo lifts in 5 hours.

>>378627502
HEY
WHAT IF
WHAT IF WE PUT A COMPLICATED MINI RTS
IN A GAME WHERE PEOPLE CAN'T REMEMBER HOW TO 1 2 3
THAT'D BE A LAUGH

>>378629220
3 hours

>>378629220
2 1/2

>>378629116
There won't be a capped script. That's all we needed to know.

6 hours until embargo is up

5 minutes

>>378629109
Don't forget Blizzfags and their 5 Overfag threads literally every day.

>>378629263
All that really means is they'll make critical items cost like 20k scrips.

>>378629212
keep it up bud. theres something so very satisfying about getting new cards. Make sure you get the three exclusive event cards that are out right now, I dont know if/when/how they'll come back.

>>378629220
2

leaker what in general type of armor types are there 60-70?

is it 100% far east flavored, any cool 3.0 recolors?

>>378629287
https://youtu.be/oUKi1_37v7Q

>>378626595
You say that, but i'm still not sure that summoning Bahamut doesn't work like Dissipation and takes away your egi. We may end up burning swiftcast on Summon instead.

>>378629358
I'm 100% sure Asuran set is getting a recolored crafted version.

7 HOURS LADS

reminder: in 5 hours, 5 hours will have passed between then and now

>>378629408
Is this a leak!?

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THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE OUR EXPANSION IT'S NOT FAIR

THE FUCKING FAIRIES ARE LAUGHING AT US AGAIN

>>378626419

I don't like the sound of the SMN changes and especially the rumors of SCH simplification, I play these jobs because they're the only ones that are complex and varied enough to be fun for me.

Please tell me SMN can still Resurrect at least.

>>378629408
Every minute in Africa, 60 seconds pass

>>378629116
hopefully fish become critical item components in more crafting recipes, I need more gil.

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>>378629443
>we will never be relevant
>we will never get the D

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Seriously guys. 5 more hours and we'll know everything.

So I ordered the digital collector's edition, but when I put in the code the O didn't show up over the "collector's edition". Is that suppose to be normal?

>>378629220
Embargo was lifted 5 hours ago.

>>378629475
>complex and varied

Please, they're my favorite classes but they're anything but that, what they are is flexible and nuanced, then again for most people in this game doing the bare minimum expected of your class is some amazing feat

>>378629574
But the emargo lifting 5 hours ago doesn't lift for 5 more hours.

>>378629263
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

>>378629570
Yeah. For some reason they only give you the early access code. They'll give you the actual Stormblood key during early access.

Same thing happened with HW.

>>378629570
>there are people on /v/ that buy collector's edition MMOs

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>>378627502
>LoV is RTS
>Not Minion Tactics
What a waste.

Embargo's up

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>there are people that still don't know what GIANT ARROWS OF STACK ON THIS PERSON mean
How is this even possible?

I pre-ordered Stormblood via PSN will my account be verified entry into early access the first time I start the client?

>>378629763
SCH's info was true.

RIP.

>>378629443
at least AF3 isn't gated behind tombstones.

Embargo.

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EMBARGO

>>378628912
Nice, now we know who not to take on raids

Have fun getting kicked from every group ever

>>378629903
The dyeable version will require some bullshit, most likely requiring hunts.

>>378629596

They are undeniably complex simply on grounds of having more buttons than any other job. Optimizing dps as SMN - truly optimizing it - is extremely challenging due to the pet micromanagement involved and the fact that you have to keep both yourself and the pet in melee attack range as well, on top of the abundance of instant casts and oGCD skills, and the fact that you constantly need to think on your feet about when and how to refresh dots.

>>378629763
>>378629874
>>378629926
>>378630030
>embargo's up
>still no leaks

FUCK OFF

>>378630067
Watch my youtube channel then you can get the leaks.

>>378629001

Someone post the image where the guy is incredulous at deliberately going into a thread full of things he doesnt like

>>378630030
BLIZZAGA

>>378630114
subscribed

>>378630141
Don't you mean Blizzard 2?

>>378629857
Yes.

>>378629212
Is there a point ti getting more than 60? The deck tiers cap out at that many doesnt it?

>>378629857
you'll be good to go, check your Add Ons in the PS Store section of the FFXIV page you'll see SB will be ready in 15D 17H 35M

>>378630173
>counting your retardo suffixes incorrectly

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EMBARGO, MONTEGO, BABY WHY DON'T WE GO

>>378630173
dont YOU mean blizzard 3?

>>378630172
Burritofarts arent allowed here

>>378630439
E M B A R G O

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>>378630439

I'm not a stat expert but it looks like SAM have the best DoT on top of the best damage and absurdly high potencies.

>>378630439
Can't wait to click this image 5 hours from now.

>>378630439
>Keniki
>Keniki
>Keniki
Fuck everything.

>>378630439
fake

>>378630439
>it's still Keniki

TRIGGERED

>>378630513
>>378630524

It has to be a typo.
It's written "Kenki Gauge" on some tooltips.

>>378630439
>mangetsu/oka are same thing

It's those 2 drg skills all over again.

How bad is this game? I always wanted to play an MMO as a class similar to the red mage.

>>378630681
Different Sen.

>>378630706
I know that but still, come on.

>>378630704
It's good enough.

the fuck does kenki mean

>>378630439
The range of Tenka Goken should be 0y, there's also really inconsistent smudging on a lot of those tooltips, making me wonder where they were pulled from since it's clearly not in game.

>>378630808
Literally "Sword feel(ing)"

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>>378630439
>SAM literally gains DPS by standing in AoEs

Glad I'm not healing this expansion

>>378630498
>50% chance of continuing your combo but a short cooldown buff that makes it 100%
MCH REBRANDED AS REDMAGE CONFIRMED

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>>378630808

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>>378630439
looks cool, seems like the kenki have to be optimized as fuck to get maximum DPS

also

>Hissatsu: Yaten
>10-yalm backstap
>Hissatsu Gyoten
>a charge

we mobility now bois

>>378630439
>No utility

KEK SHED.

>>378630498
This job looks straight up retarded. Holy fuck I don't know if I want to play this anymore.

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>>378630916

>>378631002
I switched from RDM to SAM because I smelled a clusterfuck coming.

>>378630439
>starry eyes literally the same thing as shinten except less potency and you have to be under a buff

why tho

>>378630987
it has a slashing debuff
that's it

>>378630498

>Ver(spell)

No way this is real, right? I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be Val (spell), as in from the Isle of Val, where Krile, Alphinaud etc learned magic. This looks like someone has been guessing based on what was shown of the Japanese version.

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>>378630498
>Red Mage has cure, raise, flare and holy

I am satisfied.

>>378631092
>buff only lasts 3 sec

rip for people with high ping

>>378631073
>>378631002
>it looks too hard for me

Good. It'll weed out the shitters quick then

>>378631092
The Kenki cost might be a typo.

>>378631097
Who cares? slashing debuff is borderline useless when you have a fucking WAR especially on top of the fact that it's a REQUIRED combo for DPS.

Unless WAR becomes out of Meta SAM is in the cuckshed.

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>>378631160
>Koji does it again

>>378631213
Why would you want a WAR anymore when it's only remaining utility is on SAM and NIN's main rotation

>>378630439
I feel like having almost every ability be in transliterated moon might be setting the bar a bit too high for most players to discuss.

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>>378630439

>>378630498
>Riposte isn't a riposte

Good job Yoshi

>>378631160
Yeah these don't look... quite right. But I guess we'll see in a while.

I don't understand third eye

why would you even use starry sky? shinten hits for more for the same kenki gauge

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>>378630439
I'm motivated.

>>378631269

On the one hand half of the players of XIV are weebs. The other half are trannies or men who wish they could be little girls.

On the other it'll be amusing to have people having to talk about the strengths and weaknesses of Jinpu Yukikaze Shifu with a straight face.

We might well be over the era of the basic miqo'te bitch and fuckboys all aping Haremesque Ala Mhigan/Thanvarian stuff and return to a neo-weeb era with Doma.

Rev up your nipponese there's no breaks on this train.

>>378631256
Because dps? Because nin/Sam might not be optimal? Because we don't know if they added more utility?

>>378631160
Or they're trying to make it look more French since it's using French already and a French elf knows it.

>>378630439
What does "Yaten Bonus Potency" mean?

>>378631187
It's the opposite of hard, it's literally a forced rotation disguised behind false "complexity". They babysit you through a linear procession of skills one after the other. There's absolutely no thought required behind what button to press next.

>>378631198
i think it was 15 in the live letter
it's very slightly more efficient than shinten at that cost but still it's kind of an oddball skill

>>378631376
Ver means worm in French so I don't know why they would make that change

>>378631421
The range attack can be comboed off the hissatsu backstep skill.

>>378631421
Yaten is combo'd with it, if you use Yaten first it'll increase the potency. It's one of those weird "Enhanced" combo things.

despite the lifted embargo covfefe

>>378631367
Why would you assume WAR will have any sort of monopoly on DPS, or anything for that matter, when the combat revamp is being done to literally address things like that

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Oh man..

>>378631534
They're obviously not addressing it because Samurai has zero utility in it's kit aside from slashing.

7 minutes

>>378631534
I didn't assume anything. You assumed that I assumed. My comment implied we don't have enough info.

>>378631595
F I V E seconds recast

>>378631595
HISSATSU

>>378631269

People are doing just fine with all the ninja abilities, and those are far more similar-sounding.

>>378631595
Yeah, this right here is what makes me think these leaks are fake. That's a 2000 potency attack, and Samurai has other buffs in their kit making this even more ridiculous.

SAM actually looks fun.
Shame about no utility.

>>378631595
>150%
>only 20 Kenki

What the fuck was Yoshi.P thinking? that's a fucking 1800 potency weaponskill.

>>378631595
Is it 250% or 150% total?

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Leave the healing to us

>>378631489
You aren't taking into account that you have to keep looking at your mana guage constantly. If your procs run out, you need to see what mana is lower before you start again so you know what skills to use. You should also be choosing your finisher depending on which side has more mana.

Looks fun imo, not too much to manage while also trying to do mechanics but not so little that I'm going to get bored

>>378631610
Slashing is enough to kick warrior into the shed.

>>378631595
>melee skill with a cast time
rmyt

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>>378631595
N-NANI?! H-HAYAI! UUUUUUUUUUUUUUOGH

>>378631675
250% total

How long till Embargo lift? Anyone have any idea what they're keeping under wraps?

>>378631645
True, but ninja doesn't have as many that are still in Japanese, and all the rogue skills are in English.

>>378631742
2 hours

>>378631742
5 hours.
2 hours.

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>>378631690
DELET ZIS

>>378631694
yeah, it looks more of a priority rotation rather than a fixed one

honestly the two jobs looks more complicated than we thought

>>378631673
It's probably fake, there's a lot more errors than tooltips usually have, along with some pretty weird looking formatting stuff that looks like clonestamping gone wrong.

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>>378631690
Fuck off sluts, leave the healing to a professional Lalafell

>>378631768
theres nothing inherently jap about rogues

>>378631664
When red mage's potencies are basically in line with existing jobs too. It doesn't look right.

>>378631832
If they're from a beta build it's 100% possible there's errors and omissions

>>378631832
This.
If they were real, it'd only show how incompetent gamerescape team is.

>>378630439
>>378630498

>both swordmages

bravo yoshida

>>378631694
I mean, that's my problem with it. The balance gauge is an entirely artificial construction designed to create the impression of complexity when there is none. All it changes is do I press this white mana spell or its black mana version which is otherwise exactly the same.

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>>378631595
>Monks don't get Asura Strike
>Samurai do.

>>378631595
>NINcucks
>DRGcucks
>MNKcucks

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>yfw Kaiten doesn't work with Iaijutsu

>>378631820
It's 100% identical to what we thought.

the 3rd spell proc from 2nd spell, needing 1st spell to shorten 1st spell.

melee skills

and no MP regen listed.

you need to do your melee skills, to have any means of slowing down your MP consumption.

(even then, you're going to bottom out, and the low MP cost is the only saving grace.)

>>378631963
>weaponskill.

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>>378631595
Yeah, nah.
These are straight up bullshit.

Thanks for posting for me 4chanX, go fuck yourself.

>>378631907
idk what you're expecting then my man, most dps operate this way, from making sure your dots and debuffs/self buffs have maximum uptime to doing optimal dps rotation when they are

>>378631850
I didn't say there was.

>>378631902
Yoshida is a fucking retard. He added 2 dps class because he doesn't see the class distribution as tank, dps, healer. He sees it as tank, healer, strength dps, dex dps, and int dps like the stat has any meaning at all.

meanwhile ninja and dragoon share their gear with nobody

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>>378631664
MEMORIES BROKEN, THE TRUTH GOES UNSPOKEN I'VE EVEN FORGOTTEN MY NAAAAAME

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>>378631935

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>>378631892
Sure, I just find it more likely it's a well educated guess put together with what we've seen and GamerEscape slapped on it to lend some sort of credence to it.