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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvD8NZN9Zsg
Will it get a sequel?
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>>378561748
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That's how you hype the game. And I hope so there is a sequel, be with new levels, old levels from other Sonic games(like GG/MS games), or cut-off levels from classic

Also
>Sonic RUN
>Tails FLY
>Knuckles CLIMB & GLIDE & PUNCH TOO
Kek
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>>378561748
It fucking better.
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>>378562351

>Sega pretending Sonic 4 doesn't exist
>Knuckles has a dedicated Chuckle button

I like how tongue-in-cheek Sonic is nowadays.
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>>378562546
>Chuckle button
That's just his idle animation.
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>>378561748
Yeah, even more derivative garbage that tries to make up for lack of good modern games with nostalgia-fueled amalgams of good old ones.
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>>378562546
It's just an idle animation.
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>>378562546

Sonic 4 isn't featured in the elevator because it happens after Mania.
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>>378561748
This is so fucking hype holy shit.
Only wing fortress is antihype.
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>>378562704
>>378562614

Shame, thought the punch was an actual action (since the trailer mentioned it under climbing and gliding) so it wouldn't be an idle animation happening that soon after an action.
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>>378562706
More like that piece of shit isn't canon anymore.
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>>378562745
That's flying battery, not wing fortress
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>>378562706
CD also isn't featured on it, just saying.

>>378562745
>wing fortress
Do you mean Flying Battery?
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>>378562745
>wing fortress
Flying Battery pretty much covers that.
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>>378562745
If you're talking about the miniboss with the trashed Badniks, that's still Flying Battery. I don't think Wing Fortress is likely to appear.
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Poor Sonic Force.
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>>378563124
More like poor Sonic Team, can't even do anything right by themselves anymore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY3KVTMm264
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>>378561748
I hope Knuckles and Tails have new moves. Especially Tails, he's pretty boring when playing him single player.
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>>378563260
He just have the best move (flying). How can you top that?
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>>378561748
>magic elevator
We ToeJam and Earl now.
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>>378563446
Slowly flying diagonally to a surface is boring.
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>>378561748
If it doesn't get a sequel, then video games are dead. This game is the most important thing in decades.
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>>378563649
Iizuka said something about a "classic sub series" in one of the streams. Here's hoping that means Mania 2
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If it gets a sequel, all new zones. I won't buy it otherwise.
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>>378561748
>Stardust Speedway
>including any CD levels at all
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I am not a huge fan of the Sonic series in general but this trailer looks beautiful - it looks as if they went back in time and made a 2D Sonic sequel on the Saturn.
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>>378564702
>Stardust Speedway is bad future in Generations and Episode Metal
>now its good future in Mania
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>>378564702
But it'll be well-designed this time!
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>>378564702
>including any CD levels
We knew this since day one.
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>>378561748
>>378564702
>Stardust Speedway
>Not Wacky Workbench
Mania is set out to fail.
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>>378565053
Stardust Speedway Good Future has some good music though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_TcDzS7ZwU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DYZX74qgFQ

I wonder if the zones will have remixes of the JP for one act and US for another, or if it will go Good Future -> Present -> Bad Future.
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>>378561748
Infinite Hype Works.
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>>378565326
Wacky Workbench is cancer as a stage but has great music. Quartz Quadrant should've gotten in though. It already has the green layout.
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>>378565251
When did they show/mention CD prior to this? If that piece of crap gets a level and 3 doesn't I'm blowing up Sega HQ.
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>>378565619
3 is getting representation dw.
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>>378565619
3&K already got Flying Battery.
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So did Tyson Hesse start doing animations and I just missed the memo?
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>>378565745
Yep.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6GEEi67atc
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>>378565732
Sonic 3 is being counted as seperate from K, so we're definitely getting a Sonic 3 stage as well.
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>>378565732
3 and S&K are treated as separate games for zone representation
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>>378565326
>Whacky Workbench
>not Quartz Quadrant
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>>378565619
https://blog.us.playstation.com/2016/07/22/sonic-mania-announced-a-new-2d-adventure-on-ps4/

Also both 3 and & Knuckles are getting a stage in Mania.
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>>378565869
Christ, 7 YEARS ago?! I mean, I don't make it a point to keep up with everything he does, but goddamn how'd I miss that for so long? Thanks.
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>>378564702
ass blasted casual detected.
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>>378561748
>no button for the CD floor

entrance must be somewhere else
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>>378565745
>start doing animations
A long time ago.
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Better be hearing this in the game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVEyGntyOZQ
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>>378565953
This
>mfw the quarts quadrant good/bad future Us tracks
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>>378565953
But that stage went by too fast anon.
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>>378565619
Sonic 3 will be getting its own stage. Most likely Hydrocity or Ice Cap.
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>>378565454
>WW is a cancer

Why? Because it makes you slow the fuck down and do some platforming?
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>>378563446
delete this.
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>>378565326
>WW apologists
Worse than Boostbabbys, worse than Adventurecucks, worse than Boom apologists, worse than DeviantAutists, worse than Unleashedfag.
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>no words on the special stage.
What will it be?
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>>378565953
Good taste.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgV0k6xXLzw
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>>378565732
That's Sonic & Knuckles. I specified Sonic 3 and not Sonic 3&K for a reason. They were released as separate games and deserve a level each.

>>378566007
Don't know how I forgot that. At least they chose one of the better ones.

>>378566023
CD isn't hard at all. It's just stuffed with bad level design. If it weren't for the music that game wouldn't be worth playing at all.
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>>378566446
Hataya is a god for creating this track.
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>>378565953
I was just fucking around since Wacky Workbench is dog shit but I don't get why so many like Quartz Quadrant. I mean it's a good level and all but I prefer Stardust Speedway, Tidal Tempest & Palmtree Panic.
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>>378566413
Well, since all of the Classic Sonic games from 1 to Chaotix gradually implemented 3D more and more for the special stages, something that looks like the overworld in Sonic Jam seems like the next logical step.
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>>378562989
One of CD's levels is in it though.
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>>378566197
that gif works better with the japanese quartz quadrant track imo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvqd4PieaFc
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>>378566819
>One of CD's levels is in it though.
I know, I'm just pointing out it's not on it.
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>>378566197
>bad future JP
>past US
You groove you lose
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnUxrDi5Rws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjgZul2wHI4

>>378566750
Stardust Speedway got in so there's no point in saying it.
>Tidal tempest
Poor mans Labyrinth Zone.
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>>378566753
There's just something about Sonic World that felt so right, wish we got a full game based off it
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>Sonic drawn in CD style
Fucking hell, I wish they'd ditch the Adventure design and go back to this. It's so charming
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>>378566935
>mfw realizing they chose Stardust Speedway because it's the meme CD stage and chose the past because it Past stages in CD only had one version for both US and JP

What a disappointment.
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>>378566113
WOWZERS
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>>378561748
>those rabbit ears
Cool reference.
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>>378562989
Theoretically, CD might not be on the elevator because it takes place on a different planet. The other 4 games take place on the same planet but just span 3 different islands.

Realistically though, they likely just didn't know where to put it in the timeline
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>>378567073
>>past US
CD stages used the same past tracks for US and JP. And the past tracks are clearly made to fit with the JP racks too.
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>>378567192
CD design > modern post Unleashed design > 1-3 classic design > wonky adventure design > boom design> lanky 06 design
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>>378567278
Who said Act 2 won't be in a different time period? Hell, who said Stardust Speedway won't have the Time Travel posts as it's stage gimmick?
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>>378566446
I can't wait for the remixed HUE HUE
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>>378567073
>Stardust Speedway got in so there's no point in saying it.
I was just saying what I prefer simply, Anon.

>>Tidal tempest
>Poor mans Labyrinth Zone.
You mean better Labyrinth Zone, the music in both the JP & US versions are great as hell also.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nW3W-IqYuQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXVuvo7OyXQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irxxUeJza2A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYTedTVAdeY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWgS0Eqzo0k
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>>378567550
I highly doubt they'd make time traveling just for one zone when it's not a part of every other game outside of CD. Would be kind of awkward explaining you traveling through time straight into another zone too.
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>>378566537
>CD isn't hard at all. It's just stuffed with bad level design.

The "bad level design" is for going into the past and future if you know what you are doing. It's for exploration to find the machines or the Metal Sonic's projector. And most of the present bottom routes are just a "hold right to win" with some badniks on the way and spikes

Stardust is the one level that looks like a Sonic 1 like a Starlight zone
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>>378567468
No way fag.
Genesis > CD > Adventure > modern > Boom > 06
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>>378567278
>not liking stardust speedway
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>>378566113
Opps from link, sorry guys:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oa0giRkQdQM

Nah but seriously: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79y1Q-7DBLo
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>>378567704
Yes I know that the levels were designed to accommodate the shitty gimmick.
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>>378567739
>No way fag.
>Genesis > CD
>Adventure > modern
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>>378567278
I don't have an issue with that, Stardust Speedway past & it's music is my favorite thing in that game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHLaaOSaOY8
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>>378567753
I like it but there's better CD stages/music and it's been used in Sonic Generations already. Don't want it to become the Green Hill Zone of Sonic CD.
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>>378566728
>Hataya is a god
That he is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5cXP8xTPEw
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>>378567915
huehuehue
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>>378561748
Wallpaper time bois.
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>>378567949
it was hardly used in generations, tho. it was just a boss battle where you run in a straight line, there wasnt any actual level design
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>>378567468
Genesis = CD > The rest
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>1 2 3 K M

>no CD
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>>378561748
>Sonic 4 not on the elevator
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>>378567949
Don't get me wrong, I agree that CD has many great stages and two fantastic soundtracks but Stardust Speedway is my favorite level and it has my favorite songs in both versions of the soundtrack.
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How can other video game adapation to movie even compete?
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>>378567468
>>378567739
>>378567886
>>378568184
Greg Martin Sonic > all
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How come its always up to a Non-Jap to save Sonic?
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Am I the only person who would liked to have seen a Sonic 4 stage brought into the classic Sonic world with a remix? Sonic 4 Episode 2's last stage was pretty cool.
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>>378566391
>repeatedly touching the floor instead of aiming for the floating platforms
You've only proved that you suck at platforming.
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>>378568058
=·)
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>>378568409
>Am I the only person who would liked to have seen a Sonic 4 stage brought into the classic Sonic world with a remix?
But they're already remixing stages from Sonic 1 and 2.
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>>378568246
Surprisingly held up
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>>378568409
Only White Park
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>>378568246
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'tis a nice thing to see
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>>378568409
I liked the snow/amusement park one. Honestly I don't hate 4 like most people do and would love to see one of those stages actually done well, like Generations did for Crisis City.
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>>378568653
I'd take that since we probably won't be able to get Ice Cap zone.
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>>378568419
>aiming for the floating platforms
That's off screen once you're on the higher section. WW has shit level design.
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>>378568812
>le casual face!
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>>378568409
>Sonic 4
Erase that failed abortion from existence.
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>>378568419
Yeah that was my fault back when I made that.

>>378568812
It doesn't matter that it's off-screen, I realized later that if you hug the wall you can get on a platform that doesn't move. That electricity wasn't my fault though.
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If we get a sequel I want an X-treme themed level. That had some cool looking art IMO.
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>>378568750
>act 2 with the rollercoaster theme and that music
>that boss fight with Metal Sonic
So good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVheTW4WOjc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOS6-5sV89Y
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>>378568812
>it's too gamey!
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>>378568901
>le no argument face!
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>>378561748
Now THIS is a trailer
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>>378569012
I bet you suck donkey dicks at Jazz Jackrabbit too.
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Anyone here excited for the bonus stages and special stage?
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>>378568903
I'm so glad I'm just a sonic casual so I'm able to enjoy 4.
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>>378562474
Imagine an age where modern and classic sonic titles get released simutaneously.
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>>378568812
I hates those things where you had to be crushed to proceed through the tunnel. Every other Sonic game conditions you to avoid being crushed and there's even props that look like that one.
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>>378569000

The metal sonic theme is just fucking good.
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>>378568812
Are you trying to be the next adventurefag or something?
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>>378569157
I've been playing since the Genesis days and have played pretty much all of the games, and I still enjoyed 4. It was a massive disappointment but it's far from the worst Sonic game.
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>>378569000
God I forgot how much I despised that synth in Sonic 4. The actual melody of the music wasn't bad, but the instruments they chose to use were AWFUL.

It was especially bad for the special stages where the track was like a 15 second loop.
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>>378567278
>yfw the implemented time travel just for that stage
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>>378569157
Oh good for you, you have zero standards.
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>>378569437
>It was especially bad for the special stages where the track was like a 15 second loop.
>the literal hell of getting the 7th emerald and listening to it over and over again
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>>378566413
Classic Amy is a REAL QT
better than modern!
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>>378562891
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>>378569735
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>>378569801
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>>378569051
Sauce? Reverse search gives nothing
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>>378569895
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>>378569895
>She actually has a personality this time
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>>378569989
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>>378565878
I thought this thing had all levels from 1-3 and a few new ones? It's only certain levels from each game? Lame.
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>>378569735
>>378569801
Boom Amy > Classic Amy > Sonic riders Amy > Modern Amy
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>>378570081
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>>378569895
>>378569989
I feel like Tyson should've been the one writing the comic, he seems to be way better at displaying interactions and personalities compared to the guy who actually wrote the comics
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>>378570129
Making every single level from 1-3K on top of the new zones would kill the devs. You're expecting too much from them.
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>>378570170
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>>378570181
And I feel like you should stop posting but we both know that isn't gonna happen, don't we?
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>>378570267
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>>378570345
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>>378561748
why is tails still a thing?
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>>378570181
>I feel like the artist should be the writer
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>>378570264
What do you mean "making each level", the levels are already made, it wouldn't take very much at all to include them in.
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>>378570526
And here's a bonus, classic style Sticks.
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>>378566308
Would they even be able to bring Ice Cap Zone back with its original music? It was one of the ones that had to be changed in the PC version, so there might be some problems there...
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It's crazy how this nails every aspect of Sonic people have wanted for so long while Sega and Sonic Team still seem so clueless about what to do.
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>All the Zones shown in MegaDrive are new zones for Sonic Mania
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>>378570580
Only act 1s of the remixed levels seem to borrow a lot level design to their original counterparts, act 2s are all new layouts with new gimmicks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBLUSXIqsmQ
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>>378570624
>no gloves
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>>378569940
Experiment Sisters
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>>378570526
NEVER EVER
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>378561748
I don't know if this being my most hyped game of the last 5 years says more about me or the state of gaming but holy fuck I'm actually considering pre-ordering.
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>>378570580
They put the effort in to make the old levels different to their original incarnations. To do that for the 30+ zones that exist in the original trilogy and CD would just be unfeasible for such a small dev team (IIRC there were only 6 people working on Mania before the delay).
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>>378570839
oh god don't remind me
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>>378570139
Switch Boom Amy with Modern Amy and I agree.
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>>378570510
being able to drop into the middle of a sonic 2 playthrough with a second controller at any time was the tightest shit

he's a solid luigi style wingman with cooler special abilities than sonic, it's only when they make him pilot a mech or drop exposition that he becomes a nuisance
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>>378570839
>no anonymous source leaking the sketches after Hesse announces his PC being "stolen"
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>>378570839

away with you, enchilada salesman
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Lovely trailer, I'd want to buy this to show my support but I have no means of playing it.
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>>378570976
Oh come now, anon, why don't you stop reading that washed out drek and instead wait for a serving of Ken Penders' genius?
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>>378571001
Boom Amy has a better design since she has an actual personality beyond acting like a 12 year old obsessed with Sonic. Her outfit is cooler too. Amy, Tails, and Eggman have legitimately good designs in Sonic Boom.
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>>378571225

Pretty sure Mania could run on a toaster.
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>>378571235
fUcKiNG STOP
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>>378571235
I think I just got eye raped.
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>>378570839
>>378571235

He's even uglier than I imagined.
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>>378571225
Save up for a cheap laptop to use as a Mania machine.
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>>378571163
Hesse and Stanley are the heroes we need.
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>>378571225
Sonic Mania is running on the same engines they used for the Sonic CD console and mobile so if they run fine on your toaster you shouldn't worry about it
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>>378571378
i-is that Mike Tyson???
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>>378571304
>Ms. Muppet Mouth Bandage Belts
Nah. I will admit that her personality is an improvement over main series Amy, but that's about it.
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>>378571319
Pretty much. The same engine was used for the mobile 1/2/CD remasters.
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>>378571498
No, it's Anthony Mackie.
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>>378571687
omfg
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>>378565053
It looks like the past not the future
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>>378570545
Are you saying you didn't like his Sonic comic? Are you sure you want to out your shit taste like that?
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>>378569437
>>378569000
>genesis synth
>bad

THIS is the universally panned Sonic 4 soundtrack?
I'm with you man, /v/irgin critics are fucking retarded.

What do these people want? Ke$ha and Owl City? More trash like that OP song in the pre-order trailer? It's a brilliant work of animation but that music is absolutely generic trash.
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hol up
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>>378571904
It's good, but it's also a parody. Not really accurate.
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>>378571904
>comparing that to the writing level of the comics
As expected from a retard.
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>>378570818
Ah, didn't know they were remixing and changing levels, my bad
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>>378562989
>Combi catcher
>Tails in the trash
Better than expected.
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>>378571904

That's an exaggerated parody of the characters. While humorous, it isn't exactly indictive of whether or not he could actually write them in a non over-the-top wacky setting.

Hesse probably would've gotten a chance to write some issues like Stanley and Yardley did had the comic not gotten canceled.
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>>378572049
It's an exaggeration but still shows writing competency and good joke structure. He COULD write the comic and it'd probably be good.
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>>378572420
No it doesn't. But since I'm in such a good mood I'll allow you to think that. No need to thank me.
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So what Sonic 2 and Sonic 3 stage are you guys hoping for?

I'm hoping for
Aquatic Ruin
Carnival Night
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>>378570818
I love how making an official gameplay video didn't stop the player from teabagging at the end of the level
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>>378571225
You don't have a computer?
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>>378572891
>Sonic 2
Aquatic Ruin or Mystic Cave Zone

>Sonic 3
Hydorcity Zone, it's my favorite water level in any game.
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>>378569247
>things have to be designed one way ONLY
>twists on the formula are NOT ALLOWED
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>>378572891

Mystic Cave
Hydrocity
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>>378572891
Chemical Plant
Hydrocity
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>>378571953
>Sonic 4
>Genesis synths
>sounding anything like the Genesis music
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>>378573095
>instant death crusher
>safe
Only a retard would think this is reasonable.
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>>378569000
>>378569437
>>378569249
>>378573230

When you listen to Richard Jacques remix of it (For Sonic Racing transformed). It sounds so much better from the instrumentation to even the small little samples he uses (Like the drum roll sampled from the Genesis). The Sonic 4 synths were just awful while Jacques' version sounds terrifying.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeaZcFsTw78
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>>378573318
Only a tool would allow themselves to be fooled.
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>>378573095
>getting crushed in any sonic game or almost any platformer is death
>hey guys let's add this one piece in only one level where you have to be crushed to use it XD
>good design
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>>378571953
>What do these people want?
Actual good music, which Mania is getting thankfully.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGR5fTO2oio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nW7bunHrdLQ
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>>378573027
>>378573127
These.
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>>378573430
>gets conditioned
>cries when critical thinking is required
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>>378561748
Man that Sonic design really is timeless isnt it ? Its so pleasing to look at.
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>>378573418
>Only a tool would allow themselves to be fooled by common sense
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>>378572891
I don't really care about anything from 2 but fuck just give me Lava Reef. It's easily my favourite.
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>>378573539
>critical thinking required for that
No, it's just shitty design for a shitty level.
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>>378573583
Cry more, kiddo. I bet water barrels trigger you.
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>>378572987
I do but it's shit.
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>>378572891
I imagine the music issues will heavily influence what is chosen from 3.
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>>378571953
I hate that generic shit too but Sonic 4 music is abysmal inexcusable shit that sounds like a shitty parody of "le retro games".
How about actual fucking Sonic music for once which somehow unpaid amateur fans are able to do a million times better?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-nsw0jYNK0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvgTu5b7T8k
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>>378573678
All right, you win, aspie.
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>>378573712
The previous games that ran on this engine were exclusive to phones. You should be fine.
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>>378573712
Can it run Taxman's Sonic CD remake? If yes then it should run Mania, since it's made on the same engine.

>>378573694
Water barrels?
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BUT IF I PRE-ORDERED ON PSN HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO GET THE SWEET SWEET THEMES AND PROFILE PICS ON PSN
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>>378567468
Move 1-3 classic design to second place and you're golden.
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>>378569801
BEGONE THOT
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>>378568812
Always a classic. Casual filters just work.
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>>378574228
should add that I have the game pre-ordered but the game can also be pre-ordered digitally but comes with stuff.

Thinking maybe on giving my code away when I get the physically shipped version.
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>>378572891
Mystic Cave for 2. Absolutely not Hyrocity for 3. That shit is so overrated. Aesthetically I'd like Marble Garden if they make it play better and explore the ruins theme more. But since the act 1s of the throwback levels seem to have minimal changes I guess I'll go with Ice Cap. Too bad the music would undoubtedly be changed.
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>>378568219
My nigger
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>>378562989
There's a Robotnik in there
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>>378573127
This Emerald is going to fuck YOU.
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>>378561748
Does it have alternate routes for the three characters?
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>>378574398
Actually scratch that I'd rather have a burning Angel Island as 3's stage. Since Marble Zone and Lava Reef aren't getting in I'd like that for a fire stage.

Also I wish act 2s had remixed music like 3D Blast did. Underrated game.
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>>378573712
I really should get around to reading STC, it's always seemed more interesting and consistent than Archie.
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>>378571953
Bet you'll defend this too, faggot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY3KVTMm264
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>>378574917
Whoops, meant to respond to >>378574712
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>>378574804
I don't think we've seen a character have an exclusive route made for them yet (well, the start of Studiopolis does seem to have a little bonus area for Tails to get a life but I'm not sure if the others can get that in some way or not) but we do see Knuckles starting Mirage Saloon differently from Sonic like Sonic 3 & Knuckles so I think this can imply there are.
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>>378574804
Might mostly be on Knuckles side but yes.
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>>378573095
Nobody is saying that, what people are saying is that there's not enough indication that it's safe when historically those haven't been
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>>378573539
>Randomly doing something that would kill you 99% of the time in any other level is critical thinking

It's literally the same as randomly jumping into bottomless pits hoping one might lead to a secret area.
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>>378574913
>Also I wish act 2s had remixed music like 3D Blast did. Underrated game.

Taxman confirmed that Mania will have remixed versions for 2nd acts on twitter. They just haven't shown them in trailers for some reason.
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>>378574917
I don't know enough about archie sonic to compare but I can tell you that Fleetway gets kinda batshit. That page is from the beginning of an arc where Robotnik becomes god for a while. There's also the one off about Tails assassinating JFKintobor.
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>>378569895
SO CUTE
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>>378574913
>>378575454
In a Japanese video showing off Green Hill Act.2 you can hear the new Act.2 music:
https://youtu.be/YW_-myzFUkg?t=51
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>>378575750
Awwww shit nigga, thanks for this.
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>>378574913
>like 3D Blast did
You mean 3 & Knuckles.

>>378575454
He said they didn't want to spoil it.
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>>378570170
>Grapes
Straight outta the manual, that's neat
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>>378566316
The platforming difficulty in WW is nightmare-ish
Not only are the floating rotating platforms slippery the camera is terrible too most of the time and you can't tell where you'll land.

Add in
>random badniks jumping from out of nowhere
>freeze rays trying to freeze you
>snake-like blocks blocking your paths
>electrocuting hazards in the upper parts
>a floor which bounces you to the top parts of the level if you so much as make a simple mistake
And you get a really brutal as fuck level

WW is way too unforgiving and frustrating.
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Anyone got that image of modern Amy trying on her classic outfit And it's tiny as all hell

Asking for a friend
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>>378568246
ON A SUNDAY, RIDING MY BIKE
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>>378569735
I honestly think all of the classic characters look really cute they look really innocent.
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>>378575141

Knuckles has areas of mirage saloon where he can break through a few walls to get to a route that Sonic or Tails can't access.
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>>378568693
>being a marvel fangay in the year 2017

anon get out this is a DC board
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>>378566935
Looks like fucking Mario
JUST
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>>378568546
You're thinking with your dick thanks to the XTRA T H I C C ghost girl
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>>378576662
I must be blind or am forgetting it then, whatever, that's good to hear.
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>>378567468
>modern post Unleashed design > 1-3 classic design
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>>378572891
Hill Top/Metropolis Zone and Marble Garden Zone
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>>378574249
I love Sonic 3's concept art
They perfected Sonic in here...not too edgy like in CD, not too cute like in 1...just perfect
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>>378567674
No he's right
TT is a poor man's Labyrinth Zone
TT is bland and forgettable. Labyrinth is very memorable and well designed. It also has better music imo(the only track I prefer from Sonic 1 to CD)
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>In this thread a constant circle jerk for oldfags
>In the other, a constant war of waifufags and edgelords
>in both, audistic screeching
The sonic fanbase is horrid you fuckers aren't ever happy with anything.
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>>378561748

This trailer touches me in all the right places
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>>378569134
Here. Can't believe it took them THIS long to bring back Bonus Stages.
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>>378577351
This thread is nothing but oldfags being happy
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>>378568246
>VHS HI-FI SURROUND
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>>378577351
>every place where people are happy is a destructive circlejerk
what an unhealthy mentality
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>>378569895
Why do her new reactions remind me so much of Best Girl?
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTkoJMa7LvY
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>>378572369
I literally laughed out loud, good post
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>>378577617
Because that's a generic high school anime girl and those are generic expressions?
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>>378577351
>nothing but Classicbros being ecstatic over Mania
>you fuckers aren't ever happy with anything
>>
Sonic Mania? More like Sonic Rehash.
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>>378577406
If Blue Spheres turns out to be one of them, imagine what the others will be (I'm expecting at least 2 more). I hope the devs do something completely different with them this time.
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>>378572891
S&K's Sky Sanctuary - and yes I know it was in Generations but I want a better one
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>>378572891
We're most likely getting Hydrocity. I'd like to see Oil Ocean Zone but on fire. That or Hill Top. Chemical Plant is overrated.
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>>378572891
Can't wait for Mania to revamp and troll us with this again

They should only make you hold to left and right to move the barrel down this time
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>>378575750
>Co-op with Tails confirmed
FUCK YES
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>>378577847
Mystic Cave is where it's, they could also incorporate Hidden Palace there too.
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>>378576873
Not an argument.
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What does Chris chan think of Sonic Mania?
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>>378577925
Competition Mode is also confirmed:
http://store.steampowered.com/app/584400/Sonic_Mania/
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>>378577847
>>378577959
*where it's at

>>378577925
Competition mode too, source: the Steam store page description.
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>>378577974
It's obviously not meant as an argument. Anon's just laughing at your taste.
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>>378567468
Eh, the Boom designs grew on me after watching the show, but CD is uncontested best design.
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>>378578054

Chris only cares about Sonic as a character. He doesn't give a shit about the games.
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>>378578054
I've been wanting to know this for months, along with Forces.
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>>378576619
I NOTICEEE I NOTICEEE
MANY MANY THINGS THAT LOOK ALIKE!
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>>378578054
Most likely doesn't care because it's 2D. There are a lot of Sonic fans who sadly share this mentality.
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>>378577761
>generic
Take that back, you troglodyte.
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>>378578072
Is it online?
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>>378578281
The Steam page only mentions local.
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>>378577925
I'll be as useless as always
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>>378573374
Richard Jacques is a god
Shame Sega always puts him to work on shitty Sonic games mostly
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>>378578407
>I'll
it'll*
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>>378573539
Critical thinking would be to avoid the instant death crusher.
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>>378569992
She always had a personality
It was called being a Sonic Fangirl...and she read tarot cards and shit
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>>378570580
They remake the sprites for all the levels, even if they dont look that different, and they are new levels entirely, it would be hell.

>>378570762
Please sega
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What system wikl you be playing this on between the four options?
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>>378569735

>yfw Classic Amy as DLC
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>>378578789
I was originally going to do PC, but I think I'll play on Switch for portability. It doesn't really matter which one you pick, I think all consoles can handle this game just fine.
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>>378578789

Mustard.

Though this is perfect for the Switch's screen but I don't buy consoles. If I had one it I would play it on there.
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>>378578789
PC but I think I might get a copy on the Switch for the hell of it later. Thank god the game is only $20, that's a great price for this.
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>>378577959
Mystic cave would be okay but I like the music more than the stage itself.
>>
Why are all the classes characters so much cuter than the modern ones? Is it just the new art style?
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>>378571304
>she has an actual personality beyond acting like a 12 year old obsessed with Sonic.
Imagine actually believing this
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Kill all Amyfags. She's just as fucking useless and pointless as the rest of the friend characters. ou fucking furries don't get to keep her just cuz she was in the classics. I'd sooner wish this game had voice acting than have Amy in it in anyway shape or form
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>>378579127
Pretty much. Adventure redesigns made the characters lankier and taller to look more athletic and more like teenagers.
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>Stardust Speedway
Aw yeah.
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>>378572369
>Tails in the trash
Oh boy
I can't wait for Cybershell to make a Let's Play of Sonic Mania
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>>378573712

It's a 2D sidescroller, anon. I'm sure it'll be playable on even your toaster.
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>>378579421
>WITH 60 FPS ANIMATION
>ULTRA HD
yea no it won't idiot!!
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>tfw hyper sonic and classic vector are dead because of iizuka's autism
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>>378578882
>Actively wanting content as DLCs
Please fucking kill yourself
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>>378572891
>Sonic 2
Mystic Cave or Metropolis

>Sonic 3
I'd like Carnival Night but it won't happen due to music issues. You can't improve perfect zones like Marble Garden so I wouldn't want that either. I guess I'll go with Hydrocity although they can't improve the godly act 2 music which is the best VGM ever composed...same way the FBZ remix for Sonic Mania sounds underwhelming
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>>378565067
What the fuzz you be implying by that?
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>no hat
it's shit
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>>378579580
>Super Sonic gets Hyper Sonic's powers to compensate
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>>378572234
>the writing level of comics
lol
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>>378579759
Fans got ya, senpai
>>
>>378579580
Hyper will definitely be in.
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>>378577974
>>>/r/eddit/
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>>378579147

Go away Boco.
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>>378579563

How shit is your computer?
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>>378580167
>didn't get the sarcasm
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>>378568409
>GREEN HILL ACT 2 ISN'T SPLASH HILL ACT 3 WITH THE SUNSET AND CATCHY MUSIC, OR EVEN SUNSET HILL ZONE
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>>378578882
>mfw she has a minor non-playable role like in CD
>yfw she isn't in the game at all
>yfw she isn't in the sequel either
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>>378579563
It's not 60fps animation
It's not Ultra HD it's 424x240 upscaled you retard
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>>378579580
Modern Vector is such shit
Whoever decided that Vector should get /fit/ needs to be fucking shot
>>
>>378569000
>>378573374
I'd be fine with this theme in Sonic 4 desu. I trust the dev team to do a good remix of it.

White Park in general (despite Act 3 being UTTER SHIT) was a breath of uniqueness compared to the rest of Sonic 4 as a whole (Death Egg Mk II was cool too I guess).
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>>378568409

White park is the only real original mashup of tropes in the Sonic 4 line. And even then only Act 2. Fuck everything about 4.
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>>378579759
>mfw they include a hat mode in Mania
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>>378580387
Good
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>>378580507
ALL HAIL THE ORIGINAL DONUT
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>>378580537
White Park was a poor man's Ice Paradise from Advance 2
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>>378580293
It would have been cool if the Green Hill Zone just had acts that traveled into another "hill zone" and then that were it for the classic levels. Too bad they're just redoing a bunch of random stages now.
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>>378580660
That is such a badass jump animation tbqh
But seriously Classic Vector is funky as fuck...Modern Vector looks like a stupid high school jock on the other hand
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>>378580695
Eh, White Park has more gimmicks/variety than Ice Paradise. Every level in Advance 2 feels like it has roughly the same architecture and way too short of gimmicks.
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Can we just kill everybody involved in modern sonic? Would anybody miss those people?
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>>378580874
As much as I like Modern Vector's personality and traits, I'd be more than happy to revert him to his carefree jamming OG self.
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>>378580885
Doesn't make it good
Ice Paradise still has better art style, is better designed and has far better music
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>>378580974

Everybody will miss Iizuka
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>>378581053
You could say that about any Advance 2 level though

well, except better design. The games design as a whole was rubbish, but no shit that the Advance games have better art visually. It's gorgeous GBA graphics vs generic 3D models.
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>>378581246
Hey, come on.
SA2 was pretty dope.
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>>378569895
C U T E
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>>378571904
I would like everyone to note, for the record, that this comic is seven years old.
Even in 2010, all of this was a meme.
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>>378582718
Well, of course. Sonic '06 is 11 years old.
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>>378583154

Jesus.
Twenty years ago I was 6 wearing a black sonic sweater.
I miss that sweater.
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>>378567278
Meme stage or not SS is still fun. I would have prefered Quartz Quadrant but this is fine.
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Trailer looks great. First time new trailers and gameplay have excited me since unleasheds marketing trailers. Xbox one, switch, or both...?
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>>378583753
Switch no doubt.
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>>378566413

God dammit this comic looks really good.

Why did it have to get cancelled
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>past version of stardust speedway got in
>mfw remixed huehue music
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>>378562351

Holy shit, Stardust Speedway?
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>>378584786
You know it, this shit is hype as fuck.
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Reminds me of the Sonic The Hedgehog anime, that one made into a movie.
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First person to reply to this with their Steam is getting Sonic Mania gifted to them.

I'm in a good mood.
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>>378584898

Fuck yes! Digging that plant badnik they put in the zone as well. Honestly never thought we'd see another Sonic CD level in a game again.
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>>378585165
ye boi
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>>378585165
>>378585201

https://steamcommunity.com/id/pyrofletch/
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>>378585201
>ye boi
There's a lot of those in the search. Which are you?
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>>378577617
I see you're a man of culture as well.
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>>378585201
>>378585279
Ya beat me to it. Good on you.
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Will Knuckles be able to use the Chaos Emeralds to transform?
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>>378585286
Made a mistake, >>378585279
is me. Pyrofletch.
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Who else is getting this for Switch
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>>378562891
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>>378585363
No way, only hedgehogs can do that.
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>>378585427
Absolutely would if I had one. Really wanted a portable version. But I'm stuck with the PS4 version.
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>>378585514
But that's not fair to the other mammals, anon.
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>>378585562

That's alright mang, the important thing is we're all going to get the game. Hope you enjoy it
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Anon delivered
Great games from great people
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So we have Green Hill for 1, Stardust Speedway for CD and Flying Battery for S&K. Wonder what the Sonic 2 and 3 stages are gonna be? Also that animation was fucking sick.
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>>378561748
What is the plot going to be about?
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>>378585686
I'm so excited man. Mania has been my most hyped game since announcement.
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>>378575750
>the fire shield can burn that spike pole thing
muh dick
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>Pre-ordered
AUGUST CAN'T GET HERE FASTER
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>>378585165
Why gift it to people if poorfags can just pirate it?
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>>378585957
I honestly can't remember the last time i've been this excited for a video game.
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>>378585957
witch a shit
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>>378585957

It's definitely been one of the top few of mine for a while. It's a good year for vidya I think.
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>>378586030
It's a bridge and yeah, it's great how the shield can effect the environment like that.
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>>378586131
I want to support Sega on this one, believe it or not.
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>>378565354
Is the Jap Sonic CD ost the greatest vaporwave album ever made?
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>>378586274
No because it's not even remotely vaporwave.
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>>378571953
>THIS is the universally panned Sonic 4 soundtrack?

No, the universally panned music was in Episode 1. Episode 2 got somewhat better as you can see.
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>Sonic 3s representation won't be Angel Island for obvious reasons
>If the trailer theory is right, Hydrocity won't be it either since Aquatic Ruin could be Sonic 2s representation
>Marble Garden won't happen since it has a gimmick in Stardust Speedway already, ruling it out
>Carnival Night probably won't happen because it'd be too similar to Studiopolis and Mirage Saloon
That leaves Ice Cap and Launch Base. Which would you rather, /v/?
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STOP PREORDERING
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>>378586426

Hydrocity
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>>378578465
>ASRT
>shitty

I'll fucking fight you, nigger.
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>>378586426

Azure Lake
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>>378565326
how the fuck could you ever like wacky workbench
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>>378586543

lol no
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>>378586426
Launch Base so we can have Tee Lopes doing his best impression of Michael Jackson.
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>>378569009
how the fuck do you think thats design?

Wacky workbench isnt fun. What the fuck are you guys on about?
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I can't wait for this game to make people love Sonic again, it's definitely gonna outsell forces and sega will finally realize they have to ignore the pice of shit garbage people who don't deserve to be alive and focus on us.
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Haven't been this excited for a game since Nier Automata. Hype as fuck trailer too.
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>>378586543
Too late. We need to cram this message down Iizuka's throat that this is the RIGHT product to put out.
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>>378586879
im just happy it will force 3d fags to finally shut the fuck up about any of their games being worth something
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>>378586543
Uh, no? Everyone that wants the game on Steam should preorder it right now to send a message.
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>>378586426
Sonic 2 still has Oil Ocean, Metropolis, Mystic Cave, and Chemical Plant assuming they're not gonna look at Wing Fortress Zone or Sky Chase
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>tfw I'm a massive softy and I cried watching this trailer
I can't help it anon, my childhood was pretty nice.
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>>378586543
does this actually still apply to steam since you get a discount and can refund? you're actually getting something for putting your faith into a product and its relatively risk free
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>>378587278
The animation was damn beautiful
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>>378566413
the only fun bonus stages were sonic 1 and to a much lesser extent CD
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>>378587153
I won't be happy until those people and all like them die. edgy? Yes. but some people really deserve to die
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>>378573430
>only one level
The prop shows up in both Wacky Workbench zones.
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>>378586426
>Carnival Night probably won't happen because it'd be too similar to Studiopolis and Mirage Saloon
It's nothing like those stages ffs
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>>378578465
You take that back you little shit
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>>378586639
>Ristar isn't playable because his ass doesn't look good
It's shit
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>>378561748
>Sonic Mania is a garanteed success
>We will be stuck with the same graphics and gameplay because muh nostalgia for the next 10 years.

Oh boy I can't wait for more New Super Sonic Bros.

Why is it Sonic the only franchise not allowed to evolve?

>inb4 modern games are bad

Yes, but the answer would be just try to make better games. Not giving up and say "fuck it, we will milk nostalgia forever".
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>>378587818
>Why is it Sonic the only franchise not allowed to evolve?

What? It did that for the past decade and a half and failed miserably every step of the way. Its not that Sonic isnt allowed to evolve, its that it fucking cant
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>>378587818
Cry more millennial
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>>378587818
Modern Sonic will still exist regardless of how much Classic fans whine. The only thing that will kill Modern is SEGA losing so much money they can't afford to make a Modern game anymore. Or the inevitable failure of the movie
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>>378587818
>not wanting to be stuck with amazing pixel art
>not wanting to be stuck with amazing pixel art
>not wanting to be stuck with amazing pixel art
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>>378587818
Yeah cause Sega LOVES to use the same formula for a Sonic game, right?
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>>378587971
I hope Sonic Forces crashes and burns into the ground and takes Neo Sonic Team along with it
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>>378587664
carnival night was garbage though like most of 3

Thank god for S&K for redeeming that game
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>>378587818
Why make better games when people still think the buggy antithesis of 2D Sonic is somehow a golden standard? It won't sell.
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>>378587818
The NSMB games are fucking hallow shells. This at least feels like there's some love being put into it.

If anything, that's all I've ever wanted from the series since Adventure 1, the feeling of some actual fucking care.
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>>378587818
>Why is it Sonic the only franchise not allowed to evolve?
Because Sega hired the most incompetent devs they coud find
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>>378588063
KILL YOURSELF
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>>378587971
classic fags dont whine. They just actually can realize when a game is shit. Modern Sonict team just shovels crash grab bullshit into 3D fans mouths and they pretend its good to spite classicfags
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>>378587818
fuck off 06 fag
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>>378587981
I'd prefer hand-drawn graphics like Cuphead 2bh
Pixel art looks like shit in Modern TV's due to upscaling...fake scanline filters fix it to some degree but they never look as good as on a CRT. Fuck fixed pixel displays
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>>378587818
>That sprite art
>NSMB tier
You'll have a point if a year or 2 from now we get a sequel and they use Green Hill again. For now shut the fuck up.
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>>378588151
get taste

shit fucking sucked and S&K was godlike
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>>378587934
you're a millenial
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>>378587981
The Indie scene killed Pixel Art for me. When everyone and their mother does it, it becomes repetitive.

>>378588135
>>378588112
>>378588064
>>378587982
>>378587926

I understand that, and I'm excited for Mania. But my problem is why don't people clamor for SEGA to find better people to handle things rather then "Just go to the classics!"?

My fear is stagnation more than anything.
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>>378588197
Fair dos. I personally think Sonic Team are competent, and they have been since Unleashed. The real issue is that they don't think their design decisions through which basically means they're spending most of their dev time polishing a turd.
Games are decent but frustratingly have lots of flaws that they try their hardest to cover up with good graphics and other fluff.
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>>378588405
AGAIN
KILL YOURSELF
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>>378588515
>The Indie scene killed Pixel Art for me.
Why though? You can get enjoyment out of genuinely good looking games. Studiopolis looks beautiful.
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>>378588249
>We will never have a Sonic with Classic 2D physics and hand-drawn graphics a la the Wonder Boy Remake.
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>>378587818
>>We will be stuck with the same graphics and gameplay for the next 10 years.
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>>378587818
What the hell are you on about? What is the issue with this? Sonic Mania is building upon the classics with new mechanics & new ideas with Forces also existing. This is exactly like you said with the New Super Sonic Bros. thing but that isn't even a bad thing. NSMB actually did add shit people overlook as the games went by (except NSMB2, that one was stale as hell) and plus we still got other new 3D games to release as well with a different team. For example NSMBWii and Galaxy are both on the Wii, both things are very different and build upon their previous games in various ways and this could happen with Mania & 3D Sonic as well. This means both styles for the series could evolve with different teams like NSMB & the 3D Mario games do.
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>>378588678
>Wonder Boy Remake graphics
>good
LOL those newgrounds-tier graphics look just as bad as Rayman Origins or Street Fighter 2 HD Remix. Sonic Mania looks better than that piece of shit

Cuphead-tier graphics or bust
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>>378569000
>that subtle Twinkle Park sample in White Park Zone Act

Fucking nice.
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>>378588661
Studiopolis is the rare sight of seeing them using the classic formula in new and interesting ways both visually and level-design wise.

But as soon as I learned the game is mostly gonna be old stages I lost all hype. Green Hill and even Flying Battery seem practically the same except "Oh look, GH has some new backgrounds and Flying Battery has a trash compactor and some stuff from Flying Fortress!" nothing as elaborated and appealing as Studiopolis.
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>>378588856
I'd love cuphead graphics, but I'm also trying to be realistic given that game is taking forever and SEGA cannot risk that given Sonic is the only thing they have that sells these days.

Basically I just wish they could keep the physics of Mania but try out some new artistic choices. But NOPE, people would bitch if we did so let's stay sprites forever.
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>>378584898
Is there a dedicated chuckle button?
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>>378588515
>But my problem is why don't people clamor for SEGA to find better people to handle things rather then "Just go to the classics!"?
Because they literally did that with this team, who's expert happens to be the classic games. Would you not capitalize on it? From a business standpoint you invest little and make more return. It's guaranteed money.
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But will the game run at 144 FPS?
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>>378587818
>Why is it Sonic the only franchise not allowed to evolve?
Sonic has done nothing but trying to reinvent itself, and the few times he didn't are considered the best sonic games (2 and 3, Generations, Rush, Colors and arguably SA2).

>Tails adventure is all items and no speed
>Chaitix removing Sonic and introducing the whole ring-duo gameplay
>CD going for a Sonic 1 look and the whole time travel mechanic
>Blast turns the game into a collecting game
>SA1 being this clusterfuck of different gameplays
>Heroes changing the gameplay almost entirely from SA2
>2006 being 2006
>Chronicles is a mass effect fanfic with Paper Mario gameplay
>Shadow going full weapons and branching stories
>Unleashed shoehorning a beat 'em all
>Secret Rings is a rail runner
>Black Knight is a rail runner with beat 'em all elements
>Lost World is Super Mario Galaxy
>Sonic Boom: Sonic Boom
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>>378588976
Half the game will be new versions of old stages and the other half completely new.

Also have you not seen anything involving Mirage Saloon Zone?
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>that part where Sonic goes down the pillar in Stardust Speedway and it switches between him, Tails & Knuckles in sync with the music

This is going to be amazing.
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>>378588515
but here's the thing. you aren't getting half baked pixel shit like fucking undertale overworld sprites or every god damn retro indie game on the appstore. You're getting pieces of legitimately great looking animation condensed down to pixel form, even if sonic mania is the first of many in a long line if the worlds and characters remain this consistently beautiful I will not care.

NSMB is empty and uninspired, it's worlds and graphics are by the numbers and it is afraid to try anything truly new outside of the standard plains, desert, ice and lava levels. Sonic already had a NSMB and that was Sonic 4. Mania is not Sonic 4.
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>>378587818
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>>378589106
Well I'd rather sprites over that ugly flash-looking bullshit
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>>378561748
I like when the release date is shown Sonic taps his foot to show off his impatience

I love Classic Sonic's personality.
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>>378589172
No, it's just an idle animation >>378562704
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>>378589340
This is something I don't understand. Why do they insist on locking the game to 60fps? At least give us options for frame multiples like 120fps, 180fps, 240fps...there's 120hz monitors out there that can benefit from it...especially those ones with Blur Reduction/Strobing/ULMB. A lot of new TV's support 120hz as well and all new consoles including the Switch can run a 424x240 game at 120fps or higher easily
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>>378588515
>But my problem is why don't people clamor for SEGA to find better people to handle things rather then "Just go to the classics!"?
They do all the time and Sega doesn't do it. People always talk about how to make 3D Sonic good, a couple people even make their own demos demonstrating how 3D Sonic can be good, but 3D Sonic only ranges from bad to okay.
It's also worth noting that there have been many attempts at "Just go to the classics!" over the years and this is the first one that looks actually good.
It's not bad for fans to be excited by something that looks good.
It's also dishonest to compare this to New Super Mario Bros and you know that. If it was Sonic 4 Episode 3 then maybe.
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>>378589776
These demos suck though.
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>>378584898
Why would he just randomly chuckle? In Sonic 3 he had reasons for chuckling when he did.
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>>378589916
Cause he's a little shit regardless?
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>>378589867
Some of them are good.
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>>378561748
I've never really given a shit about the Sonic series but that's a nice trailer. I really like the music.
>Related videos full of reaction videos and one fucker saying it's an animated series
I'm reminded why I fucking hate YouTube.
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>>378569190
Modern sonic games fucking suck so I'd prefer if they didn't get released.
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>>378589986
Oof, it'd be less cringe worthy if you just said "there is no reason"
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>>378590110
But the Anon isn't wrong.
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>>378590110
>cringe
Of all the shit to get edgy about, that's the mountain you want to die on?
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>tfw you get butterflies and excited about something after the longest time of being devoid of this feeling
I feel like I'm 10 years old watching Sonic on saturday morning again when i had nothing to worry about. I know thats what it was designed to do, but its just nice to have this feeling again at least for a moment. Hope the game is good too.
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>>378587818
>Why is it Sonic the only franchise not allowed to evolve?
Because Sonic Team's "attempts" at "evolution" are just shitty regressions and mediocrity.
>Not giving up and say "fuck it, we will milk nostalgia forever".
The fuck? Mania is the first game to actually do this right. Hold your tongue until they make three or more games just like Mania in a row. Even then, that's still better than the schlock we've been getting.

>>378588515
>I understand that, and I'm excited for Mania. But my problem is why don't people clamor for SEGA to find better people to handle things rather then "Just go to the classics!"?
Because the classics worked and were the pinnacle of the series as well as what defined it. Since the experiments have ranged from meh to terrible, the best thing to do is start from the golden foundation and work from that instead of trying to further mutate bad mutations and haphazardly reinventing the wheel over and over. Sonic Mania is not an indication of stagnation. If anything it's the opposite, and the start of an actual evolution of the series. Even though Mania is a fairly pure classic game, it still adds new ideas that fit and amps up the art and music quality. Supporting it is the best thing for the future of the series right now.
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>>378568693
I hope the movie version of Wonder Woman is the same as the jew gassing nazi that she was in the Injustice 2 story mode.

I really enjoyed how fucking crazy evil she was.
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>>378587818
This is an evolution.
Just because its Stoll 2D that doesn't mean it isn't evolved. Plus there's a 3D game too you wanker
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>>378590494
The Drop Dash is legit one of the best new moves added to Sonic's repertoire in ages.
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>>378588515
>The Indie scene killed Pixel Art for me. When everyone and their mother does it, it becomes repetitive.
That sounds like a personal problem.
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>>378590409
>pshh, i'll kill you on a mountain for saying my trigger word
Two scoops of cringe, thanks.
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>>378590660
I prefer the instashield but I can still get behind the drop dash.
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>>378590839
The one thing I don't like about Mania is that they removed the Insta-Shield.
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>>378576783
more like i'm cringing because ghost girl is not fucking THICC at all
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>>378574398
What if Brad Buxer collaborates with Tee Lopez to make the remix of Ice Cap Zone? What then? That track in particular has given Brad a lot of fame recently because hard times surfaced. Act 2 gets the vocals

Nah, that would never happen.
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>>378587818
Back to /sthg/ with you.
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>>378591293
>Michael Jackson comes back from the dead to sing Stranger from Moscow over the Mania credits
>In Stardust Speedway MJ holograms appear instead of Metal Sonic
>When you destroy them he sings over the track
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>>378586543

jokes on you I prepurchased
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Alright, before the thread hits the bump limit, here ya go.

https://strawpoll.com/z9fzs9g
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Wow, I really hope Stardust Speedway isn't just Past.
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>>378591567
Now, that's a little less believable.
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Imagine if this successful. They might stop including shitty 2d levels in the boost to win games.
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What are the odds of a physical release? I kinda want to preorder on PSN for the Avatars and Themes.
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>>378589348
They said it's 60% -70% old stages dude.

And yes, Mirage Saloon is also amazing. That's the thing; All new stages look amazing so the game should be that: NEW STAGES.
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>>378592065
No, they'll use it as a crutch even more.

I'd really like them to make more 3D Sonic games that are actually 3D but they clearly don't have the talent to do it quite right so I'd rather they just drop 3D completely at this point and pick it up some time later if they find some actual competent developers.
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I think the chances of a sequel are very high, but what are the chances that in the sequel they actually let Taxman make a game of just original stages?
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>>378592247
They're doing this because of Iizuka. If Mania gets enough sales, they'll probably get the greenlight to make a sequel that's only original stages.
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>>378589776
>a couple people even make their own demos demonstrating how 3D Sonic

That are always Classic Sonic on a 3D Green Hill.

The one thing Sonic has about Mario is that it tries to be original with their themes and designs. How about one of those demos try to show how 3D Sonic can work with modern Sonic? Or whatever Sonic that is not just nostalgia-milking?

Again, I'm happy for Mania, but you're blind if people always try to keep him in the past one way or the other.
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>>378592376
Considering the backlash towards the returning stages, pretty likely.
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>>378592475
>That are always Classic Sonic
The good ones, yeah. There are plenty with the Adventure and modern styles.
The thing about 3D Sonic is that it fails to capture what made Sonic gameplay fun in the first place. 3D Mario takes what 2D Mario had and expands upon it, while 3D Sonic is on a less sturdy foundation than its predecessors.
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>>378590494
>Even though Mania is a fairly pure classic game, it still adds new ideas that fit and amps up the art and music quality
>Green Hill again
>Flying Battery again
>Both of them seem like slight level tweaks and the music doesn't sound much different from the original.

>Meanwhile Mirage Saloon and Studiopolis kick their asses.

This is my deal: The new stuff is so good it makes me tired of the old stuff. It doesn't matter if its Modern or Classic gameplay. But we have been doing Annyversary pieces for too long with Sonic (Generations, Lost World's levels being inispired GHs, Mania, Forces) I want soemthing NEW with Sonic, otherwise we will be stuck with the same themes over and over again. It's why "first world is the green grass, second is the desert" crap from mario pisses me off.
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>>378592682
Other than mods I have yet to see a single prototype that tries to "show how sonic should work in 3D" that uses modern or Adventure designs.

Everyone just sucks Sonic Utopia's dick.
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>>378592787
Isn't Mirage Saloon just the level that was cut from Sonic CD?
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>>378592964

From the 2011 re-release of Sonic CD, which is essentially just Desert Hill.
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>>378592787
Green Hill act 2 looks fairly different and i'm confident that act 2 in the other returning stages will spice it up even more. The Tee Lopes remixes will also probably be great too. I'd also prefer 100% new levels, but I don't think the old ones are a deal breaker so long as they change things up enough.
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>>378592915
>Other than mods I have yet to see a single prototype that tries to "show how sonic should work in 3D" that uses modern or Adventure designs.
Because you probably haven't looked into the subject. You just look at what worked and gained traction and hate it because you're biased against that sort of thing.
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>>378591293
How do you know Brad can even use the damn song? He probably has to ask Connole for permission
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>>378578882
>that one autist in these threads that fucking wants DLC instead of being unlockable content
like fucking clockwork, let me be the one that cries for a physical version then, i wonder if the switch port will have one
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>>378593202
Or maybe it's that DLC has supplanted unlockable content and no one expects the latter anymore.
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>>378577617
Good taste
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Will it have Denuvo?
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>>378567090
We did. It was Sonic Adventure. :^) No, seriously. Sonic World was an early version of SA1's engine.

I agree though. I always get sad whenever I look at or play Sonic World, thinking about what could have been.
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>>378561748
>tfw this should have been on the saturn originally
>tfw this could have saved the saturn and sega a bit longer
>mfw never ever
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>>378592787
>I point out there's lots of great new things in Mania
>your counter argument is to point out the not new things as if that means the whole game is a shitty rehash and that's all we'll ever have
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>>378593552

He does this in every thread. He's basically the ACfag of Sonic Mania threads.
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>>378592915
Yeah Sonic Utopia is COMPLETE SHIT!!!!!
d-do I fit in yet /v/?
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>>378577617

because we just had an episode with her as focus and she's the most prominent thing in your mind right now.
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>>378592184
It's not happening. Even the special edition just comes with a download code.
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will classic amy make an appearance in the game
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>no physical release
I guess I'll pirate it. Looking forward to it.
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>>378593905
Probably not, but that's okay. Maybe next time.
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>>378593931
This is going to make someone angry and I will be happy to watch.
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>>378593905
I doubt it
She'll probably be in Mania 2 though
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Let's be real here, if it were to beat Sonic Forces it would potentially NEED a physical release. Sonic earns a lot of sales from parents, aunts, or grandparents that see it on the shelf around the holiday season and think 'oh, a non violent game to get him/her, and i've seen this character before!'
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>>378588515

>SEGA to find better people to handle things rather then "Just go to the classics!"?

isn't this essentially what sega did for the classics, seeing as every time sonic team tried to revisit the classic formula they still fucked it up?
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>>378594319
Note that each boost game has been selling less than the previous, and Generations had way more hype than Forces did. That got about 3 million sales at best, and since then Sega has further hurt their reputation with Lost World and Boom. Forces would be very lucky to even match Generations sales at this rate.
The collector's edition of Sonic Mania sold out preorders like mad repeatedly in the US and Europe. Preorders. Of the more expensive version.
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>>378594664
Hmm, I guess we'll see. It would be very cathartic to see Sonic Mania trounce Sonic Forces in sales. That would just be the cherry on top.
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>>378594932
Another thing is that even though Forces will be released during the holidays, it will be competing with Mario Odyssey and shit.
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>>378592184
The only thing I've heard of for a physical release are that some stores listing a physical release for the Switch version only.
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>>378593905
Probably somewhere. Just not playable thankfully.
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